{"post_id": "xmogwq", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "My dog ate \u201cVictor FAST KILL\u201d poison which was left out by our landlord to KILL CATS. Yesterday around 11:50 My 8 year old girl healthy and athletic apple head chihuahua weighing around 8-9 lbs accidentally ate a little bit of the poison mixed in tuna can. She took one bite (probably few grams of lean meat and I screamed at her to see what she was eating and within a minute she started foaming from mouth. I couldn\u2019t think of anything so I drove her straight to animal hospital (took 20 mins and had seizures all the way there) where they gave her a bunch of shots to stabilize her for little while. We then moved her to 24 hr care where they confirmed her state in the evening to be stable. I just love my little girl too much I spent all night holding her little collar in my hands not knowing if she\u2019d have any more seizures because they said the poison danger lasts for 4 days to a week. Right now anything will be helpful.", "c_root_id_A": "ipp7bnp", "c_root_id_B": "ippwfa9", "created_at_utc_A": 1664012626, "created_at_utc_B": 1664029016, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 642, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "This is illegal. By law, rodenticides (victor fast kill is a rodenticide) must be used in tamper resistant bait stations when used outside to prevent non-target animals and people from getting to the bait and accidentially being poisoned. I\u2019d report this incident to local law enforcement.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 16390.0, "score_ratio": 642.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xmogwq", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "My dog ate \u201cVictor FAST KILL\u201d poison which was left out by our landlord to KILL CATS. Yesterday around 11:50 My 8 year old girl healthy and athletic apple head chihuahua weighing around 8-9 lbs accidentally ate a little bit of the poison mixed in tuna can. She took one bite (probably few grams of lean meat and I screamed at her to see what she was eating and within a minute she started foaming from mouth. I couldn\u2019t think of anything so I drove her straight to animal hospital (took 20 mins and had seizures all the way there) where they gave her a bunch of shots to stabilize her for little while. We then moved her to 24 hr care where they confirmed her state in the evening to be stable. I just love my little girl too much I spent all night holding her little collar in my hands not knowing if she\u2019d have any more seizures because they said the poison danger lasts for 4 days to a week. Right now anything will be helpful.", "c_root_id_A": "ipp7bnp", "c_root_id_B": "ippm4w7", "created_at_utc_A": 1664012626, "created_at_utc_B": 1664023550, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 300, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "If you have a animal control you need to report this to them, I'd also be looking for a new landlord that's sickening when all people have to do is fix the damn cats then there won't be a huge stray population, your landlord should be in jail", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 10924.0, "score_ratio": 300.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xmogwq", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "My dog ate \u201cVictor FAST KILL\u201d poison which was left out by our landlord to KILL CATS. Yesterday around 11:50 My 8 year old girl healthy and athletic apple head chihuahua weighing around 8-9 lbs accidentally ate a little bit of the poison mixed in tuna can. She took one bite (probably few grams of lean meat and I screamed at her to see what she was eating and within a minute she started foaming from mouth. I couldn\u2019t think of anything so I drove her straight to animal hospital (took 20 mins and had seizures all the way there) where they gave her a bunch of shots to stabilize her for little while. We then moved her to 24 hr care where they confirmed her state in the evening to be stable. I just love my little girl too much I spent all night holding her little collar in my hands not knowing if she\u2019d have any more seizures because they said the poison danger lasts for 4 days to a week. Right now anything will be helpful.", "c_root_id_A": "ipp7bnp", "c_root_id_B": "ipp9z1e", "created_at_utc_A": 1664012626, "created_at_utc_B": 1664014940, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 180, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "I'd contact an attorney and report this to some sort of agency. Hopefully it's illegal to do that, it's a disgusting thing to poison any animal.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 2314.0, "score_ratio": 180.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xmogwq", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "My dog ate \u201cVictor FAST KILL\u201d poison which was left out by our landlord to KILL CATS. Yesterday around 11:50 My 8 year old girl healthy and athletic apple head chihuahua weighing around 8-9 lbs accidentally ate a little bit of the poison mixed in tuna can. She took one bite (probably few grams of lean meat and I screamed at her to see what she was eating and within a minute she started foaming from mouth. I couldn\u2019t think of anything so I drove her straight to animal hospital (took 20 mins and had seizures all the way there) where they gave her a bunch of shots to stabilize her for little while. We then moved her to 24 hr care where they confirmed her state in the evening to be stable. I just love my little girl too much I spent all night holding her little collar in my hands not knowing if she\u2019d have any more seizures because they said the poison danger lasts for 4 days to a week. Right now anything will be helpful.", "c_root_id_A": "ippsjmr", "c_root_id_B": "ipp7bnp", "created_at_utc_A": 1664027078, "created_at_utc_B": 1664012626, "score_A": 104, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "That has to be illegal. What if a kid gets into that stuff?", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 14452.0, "score_ratio": 104.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xmogwq", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "My dog ate \u201cVictor FAST KILL\u201d poison which was left out by our landlord to KILL CATS. Yesterday around 11:50 My 8 year old girl healthy and athletic apple head chihuahua weighing around 8-9 lbs accidentally ate a little bit of the poison mixed in tuna can. She took one bite (probably few grams of lean meat and I screamed at her to see what she was eating and within a minute she started foaming from mouth. I couldn\u2019t think of anything so I drove her straight to animal hospital (took 20 mins and had seizures all the way there) where they gave her a bunch of shots to stabilize her for little while. We then moved her to 24 hr care where they confirmed her state in the evening to be stable. I just love my little girl too much I spent all night holding her little collar in my hands not knowing if she\u2019d have any more seizures because they said the poison danger lasts for 4 days to a week. Right now anything will be helpful.", "c_root_id_A": "ipqax13", "c_root_id_B": "ipp7bnp", "created_at_utc_A": 1664035559, "created_at_utc_B": 1664012626, "score_A": 88, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "That\u2019s animal cruelty and needs to be reported to an animal society. Document and take pictures (if possible).", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 22933.0, "score_ratio": 88.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xmogwq", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "My dog ate \u201cVictor FAST KILL\u201d poison which was left out by our landlord to KILL CATS. Yesterday around 11:50 My 8 year old girl healthy and athletic apple head chihuahua weighing around 8-9 lbs accidentally ate a little bit of the poison mixed in tuna can. She took one bite (probably few grams of lean meat and I screamed at her to see what she was eating and within a minute she started foaming from mouth. I couldn\u2019t think of anything so I drove her straight to animal hospital (took 20 mins and had seizures all the way there) where they gave her a bunch of shots to stabilize her for little while. We then moved her to 24 hr care where they confirmed her state in the evening to be stable. I just love my little girl too much I spent all night holding her little collar in my hands not knowing if she\u2019d have any more seizures because they said the poison danger lasts for 4 days to a week. Right now anything will be helpful.", "c_root_id_A": "ipp7bnp", "c_root_id_B": "ipqonj1", "created_at_utc_A": 1664012626, "created_at_utc_B": 1664041375, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 63, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "This is animal cruelty (those poor cats!) and your poor baby! Landlord needs to be paying the vet bills, police report needs to be made and you should move as soon as possible.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 28749.0, "score_ratio": 63.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xmogwq", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "My dog ate \u201cVictor FAST KILL\u201d poison which was left out by our landlord to KILL CATS. Yesterday around 11:50 My 8 year old girl healthy and athletic apple head chihuahua weighing around 8-9 lbs accidentally ate a little bit of the poison mixed in tuna can. She took one bite (probably few grams of lean meat and I screamed at her to see what she was eating and within a minute she started foaming from mouth. I couldn\u2019t think of anything so I drove her straight to animal hospital (took 20 mins and had seizures all the way there) where they gave her a bunch of shots to stabilize her for little while. We then moved her to 24 hr care where they confirmed her state in the evening to be stable. I just love my little girl too much I spent all night holding her little collar in my hands not knowing if she\u2019d have any more seizures because they said the poison danger lasts for 4 days to a week. Right now anything will be helpful.", "c_root_id_A": "ippud1u", "c_root_id_B": "ipp7bnp", "created_at_utc_A": 1664028003, "created_at_utc_B": 1664012626, "score_A": 67, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Call the police! What if a kid picked those up?", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 15377.0, "score_ratio": 67.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xmogwq", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "My dog ate \u201cVictor FAST KILL\u201d poison which was left out by our landlord to KILL CATS. Yesterday around 11:50 My 8 year old girl healthy and athletic apple head chihuahua weighing around 8-9 lbs accidentally ate a little bit of the poison mixed in tuna can. She took one bite (probably few grams of lean meat and I screamed at her to see what she was eating and within a minute she started foaming from mouth. I couldn\u2019t think of anything so I drove her straight to animal hospital (took 20 mins and had seizures all the way there) where they gave her a bunch of shots to stabilize her for little while. We then moved her to 24 hr care where they confirmed her state in the evening to be stable. I just love my little girl too much I spent all night holding her little collar in my hands not knowing if she\u2019d have any more seizures because they said the poison danger lasts for 4 days to a week. Right now anything will be helpful.", "c_root_id_A": "ipp7bnp", "c_root_id_B": "ipqemsp", "created_at_utc_A": 1664012626, "created_at_utc_B": 1664037149, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 48, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Animal abuse is a felony in the US now.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 24523.0, "score_ratio": 48.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xmogwq", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "My dog ate \u201cVictor FAST KILL\u201d poison which was left out by our landlord to KILL CATS. Yesterday around 11:50 My 8 year old girl healthy and athletic apple head chihuahua weighing around 8-9 lbs accidentally ate a little bit of the poison mixed in tuna can. She took one bite (probably few grams of lean meat and I screamed at her to see what she was eating and within a minute she started foaming from mouth. I couldn\u2019t think of anything so I drove her straight to animal hospital (took 20 mins and had seizures all the way there) where they gave her a bunch of shots to stabilize her for little while. We then moved her to 24 hr care where they confirmed her state in the evening to be stable. I just love my little girl too much I spent all night holding her little collar in my hands not knowing if she\u2019d have any more seizures because they said the poison danger lasts for 4 days to a week. Right now anything will be helpful.", "c_root_id_A": "ipqltg2", "c_root_id_B": "ipp7bnp", "created_at_utc_A": 1664040182, "created_at_utc_B": 1664012626, "score_A": 48, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Go after him! Because it was so easy for your dog to find and get into, your dog is likely one in a line of many innocent animals that fell and will continue to fall into your landlord's traps. This is inhumane and in many states illegal.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 27556.0, "score_ratio": 48.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xmogwq", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "My dog ate \u201cVictor FAST KILL\u201d poison which was left out by our landlord to KILL CATS. Yesterday around 11:50 My 8 year old girl healthy and athletic apple head chihuahua weighing around 8-9 lbs accidentally ate a little bit of the poison mixed in tuna can. She took one bite (probably few grams of lean meat and I screamed at her to see what she was eating and within a minute she started foaming from mouth. I couldn\u2019t think of anything so I drove her straight to animal hospital (took 20 mins and had seizures all the way there) where they gave her a bunch of shots to stabilize her for little while. We then moved her to 24 hr care where they confirmed her state in the evening to be stable. I just love my little girl too much I spent all night holding her little collar in my hands not knowing if she\u2019d have any more seizures because they said the poison danger lasts for 4 days to a week. Right now anything will be helpful.", "c_root_id_A": "ipp7bnp", "c_root_id_B": "ipqjegb", "created_at_utc_A": 1664012626, "created_at_utc_B": 1664039179, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 37, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "please remove the cans if they remained and report the neighbour", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 26553.0, "score_ratio": 37.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xmogwq", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "My dog ate \u201cVictor FAST KILL\u201d poison which was left out by our landlord to KILL CATS. Yesterday around 11:50 My 8 year old girl healthy and athletic apple head chihuahua weighing around 8-9 lbs accidentally ate a little bit of the poison mixed in tuna can. She took one bite (probably few grams of lean meat and I screamed at her to see what she was eating and within a minute she started foaming from mouth. I couldn\u2019t think of anything so I drove her straight to animal hospital (took 20 mins and had seizures all the way there) where they gave her a bunch of shots to stabilize her for little while. We then moved her to 24 hr care where they confirmed her state in the evening to be stable. I just love my little girl too much I spent all night holding her little collar in my hands not knowing if she\u2019d have any more seizures because they said the poison danger lasts for 4 days to a week. Right now anything will be helpful.", "c_root_id_A": "ipqrb4h", "c_root_id_B": "ipp7bnp", "created_at_utc_A": 1664042513, "created_at_utc_B": 1664012626, "score_A": 36, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Please tell me you took pictures. This is illegal.   You can file a police report and also force your landlord to pay all your medical expenses. Everyone in the comments are giving great advice, don't let that shit slide.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 29887.0, "score_ratio": 36.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xmogwq", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "My dog ate \u201cVictor FAST KILL\u201d poison which was left out by our landlord to KILL CATS. Yesterday around 11:50 My 8 year old girl healthy and athletic apple head chihuahua weighing around 8-9 lbs accidentally ate a little bit of the poison mixed in tuna can. She took one bite (probably few grams of lean meat and I screamed at her to see what she was eating and within a minute she started foaming from mouth. I couldn\u2019t think of anything so I drove her straight to animal hospital (took 20 mins and had seizures all the way there) where they gave her a bunch of shots to stabilize her for little while. We then moved her to 24 hr care where they confirmed her state in the evening to be stable. I just love my little girl too much I spent all night holding her little collar in my hands not knowing if she\u2019d have any more seizures because they said the poison danger lasts for 4 days to a week. Right now anything will be helpful.", "c_root_id_A": "ipp7bnp", "c_root_id_B": "ipqwchs", "created_at_utc_A": 1664012626, "created_at_utc_B": 1664044655, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 22, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Idk where this is but I would look into the legal side of this.   Landlord likely liable for costs and probably broken criminal codes.  Not to mention the likilihood this was intentional, knowingly placing baited traps where their tenants pet can find it.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 32029.0, "score_ratio": 22.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xmogwq", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "My dog ate \u201cVictor FAST KILL\u201d poison which was left out by our landlord to KILL CATS. Yesterday around 11:50 My 8 year old girl healthy and athletic apple head chihuahua weighing around 8-9 lbs accidentally ate a little bit of the poison mixed in tuna can. She took one bite (probably few grams of lean meat and I screamed at her to see what she was eating and within a minute she started foaming from mouth. I couldn\u2019t think of anything so I drove her straight to animal hospital (took 20 mins and had seizures all the way there) where they gave her a bunch of shots to stabilize her for little while. We then moved her to 24 hr care where they confirmed her state in the evening to be stable. I just love my little girl too much I spent all night holding her little collar in my hands not knowing if she\u2019d have any more seizures because they said the poison danger lasts for 4 days to a week. Right now anything will be helpful.", "c_root_id_A": "ippm4w7", "c_root_id_B": "ippwfa9", "created_at_utc_A": 1664023550, "created_at_utc_B": 1664029016, "score_A": 300, "score_B": 642, "human_ref_A": "If you have a animal control you need to report this to them, I'd also be looking for a new landlord that's sickening when all people have to do is fix the damn cats then there won't be a huge stray population, your landlord should be in jail", "human_ref_B": "This is illegal. By law, rodenticides (victor fast kill is a rodenticide) must be used in tamper resistant bait stations when used outside to prevent non-target animals and people from getting to the bait and accidentially being poisoned. I\u2019d report this incident to local law enforcement.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 5466.0, "score_ratio": 2.14, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xmogwq", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "My dog ate \u201cVictor FAST KILL\u201d poison which was left out by our landlord to KILL CATS. Yesterday around 11:50 My 8 year old girl healthy and athletic apple head chihuahua weighing around 8-9 lbs accidentally ate a little bit of the poison mixed in tuna can. She took one bite (probably few grams of lean meat and I screamed at her to see what she was eating and within a minute she started foaming from mouth. I couldn\u2019t think of anything so I drove her straight to animal hospital (took 20 mins and had seizures all the way there) where they gave her a bunch of shots to stabilize her for little while. We then moved her to 24 hr care where they confirmed her state in the evening to be stable. I just love my little girl too much I spent all night holding her little collar in my hands not knowing if she\u2019d have any more seizures because they said the poison danger lasts for 4 days to a week. Right now anything will be helpful.", "c_root_id_A": "ippwfa9", "c_root_id_B": "ipp9z1e", "created_at_utc_A": 1664029016, "created_at_utc_B": 1664014940, "score_A": 642, "score_B": 180, "human_ref_A": "This is illegal. By law, rodenticides (victor fast kill is a rodenticide) must be used in tamper resistant bait stations when used outside to prevent non-target animals and people from getting to the bait and accidentially being poisoned. I\u2019d report this incident to local law enforcement.", "human_ref_B": "I'd contact an attorney and report this to some sort of agency. Hopefully it's illegal to do that, it's a disgusting thing to poison any animal.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 14076.0, "score_ratio": 3.5666666667, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xmogwq", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "My dog ate \u201cVictor FAST KILL\u201d poison which was left out by our landlord to KILL CATS. Yesterday around 11:50 My 8 year old girl healthy and athletic apple head chihuahua weighing around 8-9 lbs accidentally ate a little bit of the poison mixed in tuna can. She took one bite (probably few grams of lean meat and I screamed at her to see what she was eating and within a minute she started foaming from mouth. I couldn\u2019t think of anything so I drove her straight to animal hospital (took 20 mins and had seizures all the way there) where they gave her a bunch of shots to stabilize her for little while. We then moved her to 24 hr care where they confirmed her state in the evening to be stable. I just love my little girl too much I spent all night holding her little collar in my hands not knowing if she\u2019d have any more seizures because they said the poison danger lasts for 4 days to a week. Right now anything will be helpful.", "c_root_id_A": "ippwfa9", "c_root_id_B": "ippsjmr", "created_at_utc_A": 1664029016, "created_at_utc_B": 1664027078, "score_A": 642, "score_B": 104, "human_ref_A": "This is illegal. By law, rodenticides (victor fast kill is a rodenticide) must be used in tamper resistant bait stations when used outside to prevent non-target animals and people from getting to the bait and accidentially being poisoned. I\u2019d report this incident to local law enforcement.", "human_ref_B": "That has to be illegal. What if a kid gets into that stuff?", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 1938.0, "score_ratio": 6.1730769231, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xmogwq", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "My dog ate \u201cVictor FAST KILL\u201d poison which was left out by our landlord to KILL CATS. Yesterday around 11:50 My 8 year old girl healthy and athletic apple head chihuahua weighing around 8-9 lbs accidentally ate a little bit of the poison mixed in tuna can. She took one bite (probably few grams of lean meat and I screamed at her to see what she was eating and within a minute she started foaming from mouth. I couldn\u2019t think of anything so I drove her straight to animal hospital (took 20 mins and had seizures all the way there) where they gave her a bunch of shots to stabilize her for little while. We then moved her to 24 hr care where they confirmed her state in the evening to be stable. I just love my little girl too much I spent all night holding her little collar in my hands not knowing if she\u2019d have any more seizures because they said the poison danger lasts for 4 days to a week. Right now anything will be helpful.", "c_root_id_A": "ippwfa9", "c_root_id_B": "ippud1u", "created_at_utc_A": 1664029016, "created_at_utc_B": 1664028003, "score_A": 642, "score_B": 67, "human_ref_A": "This is illegal. By law, rodenticides (victor fast kill is a rodenticide) must be used in tamper resistant bait stations when used outside to prevent non-target animals and people from getting to the bait and accidentially being poisoned. I\u2019d report this incident to local law enforcement.", "human_ref_B": "Call the police! What if a kid picked those up?", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 1013.0, "score_ratio": 9.5820895522, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xmogwq", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "My dog ate \u201cVictor FAST KILL\u201d poison which was left out by our landlord to KILL CATS. Yesterday around 11:50 My 8 year old girl healthy and athletic apple head chihuahua weighing around 8-9 lbs accidentally ate a little bit of the poison mixed in tuna can. She took one bite (probably few grams of lean meat and I screamed at her to see what she was eating and within a minute she started foaming from mouth. I couldn\u2019t think of anything so I drove her straight to animal hospital (took 20 mins and had seizures all the way there) where they gave her a bunch of shots to stabilize her for little while. We then moved her to 24 hr care where they confirmed her state in the evening to be stable. I just love my little girl too much I spent all night holding her little collar in my hands not knowing if she\u2019d have any more seizures because they said the poison danger lasts for 4 days to a week. Right now anything will be helpful.", "c_root_id_A": "ippm4w7", "c_root_id_B": "ipp9z1e", "created_at_utc_A": 1664023550, "created_at_utc_B": 1664014940, "score_A": 300, "score_B": 180, "human_ref_A": "If you have a animal control you need to report this to them, I'd also be looking for a new landlord that's sickening when all people have to do is fix the damn cats then there won't be a huge stray population, your landlord should be in jail", "human_ref_B": "I'd contact an attorney and report this to some sort of agency. Hopefully it's illegal to do that, it's a disgusting thing to poison any animal.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 8610.0, "score_ratio": 1.6666666667, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xmogwq", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "My dog ate \u201cVictor FAST KILL\u201d poison which was left out by our landlord to KILL CATS. Yesterday around 11:50 My 8 year old girl healthy and athletic apple head chihuahua weighing around 8-9 lbs accidentally ate a little bit of the poison mixed in tuna can. She took one bite (probably few grams of lean meat and I screamed at her to see what she was eating and within a minute she started foaming from mouth. I couldn\u2019t think of anything so I drove her straight to animal hospital (took 20 mins and had seizures all the way there) where they gave her a bunch of shots to stabilize her for little while. We then moved her to 24 hr care where they confirmed her state in the evening to be stable. I just love my little girl too much I spent all night holding her little collar in my hands not knowing if she\u2019d have any more seizures because they said the poison danger lasts for 4 days to a week. Right now anything will be helpful.", "c_root_id_A": "ipqax13", "c_root_id_B": "ippud1u", "created_at_utc_A": 1664035559, "created_at_utc_B": 1664028003, "score_A": 88, "score_B": 67, "human_ref_A": "That\u2019s animal cruelty and needs to be reported to an animal society. Document and take pictures (if possible).", "human_ref_B": "Call the police! What if a kid picked those up?", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 7556.0, "score_ratio": 1.3134328358, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xmogwq", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "My dog ate \u201cVictor FAST KILL\u201d poison which was left out by our landlord to KILL CATS. Yesterday around 11:50 My 8 year old girl healthy and athletic apple head chihuahua weighing around 8-9 lbs accidentally ate a little bit of the poison mixed in tuna can. She took one bite (probably few grams of lean meat and I screamed at her to see what she was eating and within a minute she started foaming from mouth. I couldn\u2019t think of anything so I drove her straight to animal hospital (took 20 mins and had seizures all the way there) where they gave her a bunch of shots to stabilize her for little while. We then moved her to 24 hr care where they confirmed her state in the evening to be stable. I just love my little girl too much I spent all night holding her little collar in my hands not knowing if she\u2019d have any more seizures because they said the poison danger lasts for 4 days to a week. Right now anything will be helpful.", "c_root_id_A": "ipqonj1", "c_root_id_B": "ipqemsp", "created_at_utc_A": 1664041375, "created_at_utc_B": 1664037149, "score_A": 63, "score_B": 48, "human_ref_A": "This is animal cruelty (those poor cats!) and your poor baby! Landlord needs to be paying the vet bills, police report needs to be made and you should move as soon as possible.", "human_ref_B": "Animal abuse is a felony in the US now.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 4226.0, "score_ratio": 1.3125, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xmogwq", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "My dog ate \u201cVictor FAST KILL\u201d poison which was left out by our landlord to KILL CATS. Yesterday around 11:50 My 8 year old girl healthy and athletic apple head chihuahua weighing around 8-9 lbs accidentally ate a little bit of the poison mixed in tuna can. She took one bite (probably few grams of lean meat and I screamed at her to see what she was eating and within a minute she started foaming from mouth. I couldn\u2019t think of anything so I drove her straight to animal hospital (took 20 mins and had seizures all the way there) where they gave her a bunch of shots to stabilize her for little while. We then moved her to 24 hr care where they confirmed her state in the evening to be stable. I just love my little girl too much I spent all night holding her little collar in my hands not knowing if she\u2019d have any more seizures because they said the poison danger lasts for 4 days to a week. Right now anything will be helpful.", "c_root_id_A": "ipqonj1", "c_root_id_B": "ipqltg2", "created_at_utc_A": 1664041375, "created_at_utc_B": 1664040182, "score_A": 63, "score_B": 48, "human_ref_A": "This is animal cruelty (those poor cats!) and your poor baby! Landlord needs to be paying the vet bills, police report needs to be made and you should move as soon as possible.", "human_ref_B": "Go after him! Because it was so easy for your dog to find and get into, your dog is likely one in a line of many innocent animals that fell and will continue to fall into your landlord's traps. This is inhumane and in many states illegal.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 1193.0, "score_ratio": 1.3125, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xmogwq", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "My dog ate \u201cVictor FAST KILL\u201d poison which was left out by our landlord to KILL CATS. Yesterday around 11:50 My 8 year old girl healthy and athletic apple head chihuahua weighing around 8-9 lbs accidentally ate a little bit of the poison mixed in tuna can. She took one bite (probably few grams of lean meat and I screamed at her to see what she was eating and within a minute she started foaming from mouth. I couldn\u2019t think of anything so I drove her straight to animal hospital (took 20 mins and had seizures all the way there) where they gave her a bunch of shots to stabilize her for little while. We then moved her to 24 hr care where they confirmed her state in the evening to be stable. I just love my little girl too much I spent all night holding her little collar in my hands not knowing if she\u2019d have any more seizures because they said the poison danger lasts for 4 days to a week. Right now anything will be helpful.", "c_root_id_A": "ipqonj1", "c_root_id_B": "ipqjegb", "created_at_utc_A": 1664041375, "created_at_utc_B": 1664039179, "score_A": 63, "score_B": 37, "human_ref_A": "This is animal cruelty (those poor cats!) and your poor baby! Landlord needs to be paying the vet bills, police report needs to be made and you should move as soon as possible.", "human_ref_B": "please remove the cans if they remained and report the neighbour", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 2196.0, "score_ratio": 1.7027027027, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xmogwq", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "My dog ate \u201cVictor FAST KILL\u201d poison which was left out by our landlord to KILL CATS. Yesterday around 11:50 My 8 year old girl healthy and athletic apple head chihuahua weighing around 8-9 lbs accidentally ate a little bit of the poison mixed in tuna can. She took one bite (probably few grams of lean meat and I screamed at her to see what she was eating and within a minute she started foaming from mouth. I couldn\u2019t think of anything so I drove her straight to animal hospital (took 20 mins and had seizures all the way there) where they gave her a bunch of shots to stabilize her for little while. We then moved her to 24 hr care where they confirmed her state in the evening to be stable. I just love my little girl too much I spent all night holding her little collar in my hands not knowing if she\u2019d have any more seizures because they said the poison danger lasts for 4 days to a week. Right now anything will be helpful.", "c_root_id_A": "ipqltg2", "c_root_id_B": "ipqjegb", "created_at_utc_A": 1664040182, "created_at_utc_B": 1664039179, "score_A": 48, "score_B": 37, "human_ref_A": "Go after him! Because it was so easy for your dog to find and get into, your dog is likely one in a line of many innocent animals that fell and will continue to fall into your landlord's traps. This is inhumane and in many states illegal.", "human_ref_B": "please remove the cans if they remained and report the neighbour", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 1003.0, "score_ratio": 1.2972972973, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "hcoynp", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Veterinarians losing a pet of their own My 14 year old female spayed doberman mix has degenerative myelopathy, and it progressed this morning so that she was unable to stand.    She has many comorbidities.  She had PLE while I was in school; her TP was < 2, she had bicavitary effusion and a heart murmur.  They prepared me for her to die, but with a hydrolyzed diet, probiotics, predisone, and mycophenolate she lived on for 6 happy years.    She's been struggling lately but I thought we'd have more time.  I thought we'd be able to take one more walk in the twilight, let her believe that she could catch those rabbits for a moment, eat some grass, sniff her favorite tree.    But no, this morning, she peed all over the floor and herself and was unable to rise.  Her pelvic limbs have no deep pain sensation.  I thought I would have to do it myself; all I do is in-home euthanasias, but a co-worker is on her way in less than an hour.    Even though this is all I do, and I guide people through this very situation with empathy and grace, I am unable to help myself.  I am so sad.  I am filled with regret.  I don't know how I can attempt my next appointment.  I am lost.  Fellow veterinarians, how did you get through this?  I've lost pets before, of course, but I am sitting here drawing up her euthanasia drugs for my coworker (She doesn't have hers with her today) and I cannot stop these deep ugly sobs.  I love you, pastabatman fluppa girl.  You were the soul of greed, and when we first met you, you chased the tennis ball instead of approaching us, and you were the best girl ever.  Run free, my sweet.  Run free.", "c_root_id_A": "fvgcm1b", "c_root_id_B": "fvg9jrj", "created_at_utc_A": 1592671581, "created_at_utc_B": 1592669899, "score_A": 83, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I'm so sorry. It's so hard to be objective when it's your own baby. I lost my own doggo rather suddenly on the 1st of February...when I woke up for the night shift, she could hardly stand. She had delayed-to-absent CPs in both hind limbs. She was ataxic. I cried the whole way to work, the whole shift...hell, the whole weekend. I still find myself wondering, \"Did I do the right thing?\" I battle with myself almost daily on that front, because every bit of my training and experience tells me that I made the right decision. But, oh, how my heart hurts, even all these months later. I sincerely hope you can find peace and comfort from your friend and coworker. Sending you much socially distanced love and hugs \u2764", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 1682.0, "score_ratio": 83.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "hcoynp", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Veterinarians losing a pet of their own My 14 year old female spayed doberman mix has degenerative myelopathy, and it progressed this morning so that she was unable to stand.    She has many comorbidities.  She had PLE while I was in school; her TP was < 2, she had bicavitary effusion and a heart murmur.  They prepared me for her to die, but with a hydrolyzed diet, probiotics, predisone, and mycophenolate she lived on for 6 happy years.    She's been struggling lately but I thought we'd have more time.  I thought we'd be able to take one more walk in the twilight, let her believe that she could catch those rabbits for a moment, eat some grass, sniff her favorite tree.    But no, this morning, she peed all over the floor and herself and was unable to rise.  Her pelvic limbs have no deep pain sensation.  I thought I would have to do it myself; all I do is in-home euthanasias, but a co-worker is on her way in less than an hour.    Even though this is all I do, and I guide people through this very situation with empathy and grace, I am unable to help myself.  I am so sad.  I am filled with regret.  I don't know how I can attempt my next appointment.  I am lost.  Fellow veterinarians, how did you get through this?  I've lost pets before, of course, but I am sitting here drawing up her euthanasia drugs for my coworker (She doesn't have hers with her today) and I cannot stop these deep ugly sobs.  I love you, pastabatman fluppa girl.  You were the soul of greed, and when we first met you, you chased the tennis ball instead of approaching us, and you were the best girl ever.  Run free, my sweet.  Run free.", "c_root_id_A": "fvg9jrj", "c_root_id_B": "fvgdhlb", "created_at_utc_A": 1592669899, "created_at_utc_B": 1592672058, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 40, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "I\u2019m so sorry for your loss. From the pictures I can tell she is a sweet girl who got and gave a lot of love.   It will always feel too soon, and you will always want just one more walk, one more cuddle. I hope you can find peace in knowing that the two of you had the best 14 years possible.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 2159.0, "score_ratio": 40.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "hcoynp", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Veterinarians losing a pet of their own My 14 year old female spayed doberman mix has degenerative myelopathy, and it progressed this morning so that she was unable to stand.    She has many comorbidities.  She had PLE while I was in school; her TP was < 2, she had bicavitary effusion and a heart murmur.  They prepared me for her to die, but with a hydrolyzed diet, probiotics, predisone, and mycophenolate she lived on for 6 happy years.    She's been struggling lately but I thought we'd have more time.  I thought we'd be able to take one more walk in the twilight, let her believe that she could catch those rabbits for a moment, eat some grass, sniff her favorite tree.    But no, this morning, she peed all over the floor and herself and was unable to rise.  Her pelvic limbs have no deep pain sensation.  I thought I would have to do it myself; all I do is in-home euthanasias, but a co-worker is on her way in less than an hour.    Even though this is all I do, and I guide people through this very situation with empathy and grace, I am unable to help myself.  I am so sad.  I am filled with regret.  I don't know how I can attempt my next appointment.  I am lost.  Fellow veterinarians, how did you get through this?  I've lost pets before, of course, but I am sitting here drawing up her euthanasia drugs for my coworker (She doesn't have hers with her today) and I cannot stop these deep ugly sobs.  I love you, pastabatman fluppa girl.  You were the soul of greed, and when we first met you, you chased the tennis ball instead of approaching us, and you were the best girl ever.  Run free, my sweet.  Run free.", "c_root_id_A": "fvgfadj", "c_root_id_B": "fvgkq49", "created_at_utc_A": 1592673039, "created_at_utc_B": 1592676034, "score_A": 12, "score_B": 26, "human_ref_A": "So sorry for your loss", "human_ref_B": "I'm so sorry for your loss.   When I had my elderly cat put down last year, the vet shared with me pictures of her own cat she had to put to sleep. She was Japanese, trained in Australia. She explained that in her native Japan, euthanasia isn't usually done. When she was working in a shelter there, she found it difficult because she wasn't able to give suffering animals the mercy of a quick, painless death. She helped me through a very difficult experience.   I'm sure there's a better way to say it, but your experience will help you be a better, more compassionate vet. Be gentle with yourself, and don't hesitate to take time off if you need to.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 2995.0, "score_ratio": 2.1666666667, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "hcoynp", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Veterinarians losing a pet of their own My 14 year old female spayed doberman mix has degenerative myelopathy, and it progressed this morning so that she was unable to stand.    She has many comorbidities.  She had PLE while I was in school; her TP was < 2, she had bicavitary effusion and a heart murmur.  They prepared me for her to die, but with a hydrolyzed diet, probiotics, predisone, and mycophenolate she lived on for 6 happy years.    She's been struggling lately but I thought we'd have more time.  I thought we'd be able to take one more walk in the twilight, let her believe that she could catch those rabbits for a moment, eat some grass, sniff her favorite tree.    But no, this morning, she peed all over the floor and herself and was unable to rise.  Her pelvic limbs have no deep pain sensation.  I thought I would have to do it myself; all I do is in-home euthanasias, but a co-worker is on her way in less than an hour.    Even though this is all I do, and I guide people through this very situation with empathy and grace, I am unable to help myself.  I am so sad.  I am filled with regret.  I don't know how I can attempt my next appointment.  I am lost.  Fellow veterinarians, how did you get through this?  I've lost pets before, of course, but I am sitting here drawing up her euthanasia drugs for my coworker (She doesn't have hers with her today) and I cannot stop these deep ugly sobs.  I love you, pastabatman fluppa girl.  You were the soul of greed, and when we first met you, you chased the tennis ball instead of approaching us, and you were the best girl ever.  Run free, my sweet.  Run free.", "c_root_id_A": "fvgkq49", "c_root_id_B": "fvg9jrj", "created_at_utc_A": 1592676034, "created_at_utc_B": 1592669899, "score_A": 26, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I'm so sorry for your loss.   When I had my elderly cat put down last year, the vet shared with me pictures of her own cat she had to put to sleep. She was Japanese, trained in Australia. She explained that in her native Japan, euthanasia isn't usually done. When she was working in a shelter there, she found it difficult because she wasn't able to give suffering animals the mercy of a quick, painless death. She helped me through a very difficult experience.   I'm sure there's a better way to say it, but your experience will help you be a better, more compassionate vet. Be gentle with yourself, and don't hesitate to take time off if you need to.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 6135.0, "score_ratio": 26.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "hcoynp", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Veterinarians losing a pet of their own My 14 year old female spayed doberman mix has degenerative myelopathy, and it progressed this morning so that she was unable to stand.    She has many comorbidities.  She had PLE while I was in school; her TP was < 2, she had bicavitary effusion and a heart murmur.  They prepared me for her to die, but with a hydrolyzed diet, probiotics, predisone, and mycophenolate she lived on for 6 happy years.    She's been struggling lately but I thought we'd have more time.  I thought we'd be able to take one more walk in the twilight, let her believe that she could catch those rabbits for a moment, eat some grass, sniff her favorite tree.    But no, this morning, she peed all over the floor and herself and was unable to rise.  Her pelvic limbs have no deep pain sensation.  I thought I would have to do it myself; all I do is in-home euthanasias, but a co-worker is on her way in less than an hour.    Even though this is all I do, and I guide people through this very situation with empathy and grace, I am unable to help myself.  I am so sad.  I am filled with regret.  I don't know how I can attempt my next appointment.  I am lost.  Fellow veterinarians, how did you get through this?  I've lost pets before, of course, but I am sitting here drawing up her euthanasia drugs for my coworker (She doesn't have hers with her today) and I cannot stop these deep ugly sobs.  I love you, pastabatman fluppa girl.  You were the soul of greed, and when we first met you, you chased the tennis ball instead of approaching us, and you were the best girl ever.  Run free, my sweet.  Run free.", "c_root_id_A": "fvgg8ge", "c_root_id_B": "fvgkq49", "created_at_utc_A": 1592673561, "created_at_utc_B": 1592676034, "score_A": -23, "score_B": 26, "human_ref_A": "I suspect this thread will turn into a shitshow, so please don't be surprised if we need to lock it.  To answer the question, loss is part of life. From your post I suspect this is your first personal experience with it, but it won't be your last. Grief is normal, and there is no use trying to suppress or evade it.   Most people can empathize with the idea of losing someone and offer their sympathies based on their theoretical understanding of the concept. However, those who haven't been through it themselves don't understand that eventually, you'll get over it. You too will in due time, and that too is normal and not a sign of disrespect.  Feel free to also seek out /r/petloss if you want to talk about this more.", "human_ref_B": "I'm so sorry for your loss.   When I had my elderly cat put down last year, the vet shared with me pictures of her own cat she had to put to sleep. She was Japanese, trained in Australia. She explained that in her native Japan, euthanasia isn't usually done. When she was working in a shelter there, she found it difficult because she wasn't able to give suffering animals the mercy of a quick, painless death. She helped me through a very difficult experience.   I'm sure there's a better way to say it, but your experience will help you be a better, more compassionate vet. Be gentle with yourself, and don't hesitate to take time off if you need to.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 2473.0, "score_ratio": -1.1304347826, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "hcoynp", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Veterinarians losing a pet of their own My 14 year old female spayed doberman mix has degenerative myelopathy, and it progressed this morning so that she was unable to stand.    She has many comorbidities.  She had PLE while I was in school; her TP was < 2, she had bicavitary effusion and a heart murmur.  They prepared me for her to die, but with a hydrolyzed diet, probiotics, predisone, and mycophenolate she lived on for 6 happy years.    She's been struggling lately but I thought we'd have more time.  I thought we'd be able to take one more walk in the twilight, let her believe that she could catch those rabbits for a moment, eat some grass, sniff her favorite tree.    But no, this morning, she peed all over the floor and herself and was unable to rise.  Her pelvic limbs have no deep pain sensation.  I thought I would have to do it myself; all I do is in-home euthanasias, but a co-worker is on her way in less than an hour.    Even though this is all I do, and I guide people through this very situation with empathy and grace, I am unable to help myself.  I am so sad.  I am filled with regret.  I don't know how I can attempt my next appointment.  I am lost.  Fellow veterinarians, how did you get through this?  I've lost pets before, of course, but I am sitting here drawing up her euthanasia drugs for my coworker (She doesn't have hers with her today) and I cannot stop these deep ugly sobs.  I love you, pastabatman fluppa girl.  You were the soul of greed, and when we first met you, you chased the tennis ball instead of approaching us, and you were the best girl ever.  Run free, my sweet.  Run free.", "c_root_id_A": "fvgmg20", "c_root_id_B": "fvgfadj", "created_at_utc_A": 1592676979, "created_at_utc_B": 1592673039, "score_A": 16, "score_B": 12, "human_ref_A": "So sorry you\u2019ve gotta go through this.  I\u2019m not a vet but (nearly) an RN.  My gf is a vet.  Just because this is your job doesn\u2019t mean you don\u2019t get to feel the same things everyone else does when they go through this experience.", "human_ref_B": "So sorry for your loss", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 3940.0, "score_ratio": 1.3333333333, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "hcoynp", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Veterinarians losing a pet of their own My 14 year old female spayed doberman mix has degenerative myelopathy, and it progressed this morning so that she was unable to stand.    She has many comorbidities.  She had PLE while I was in school; her TP was < 2, she had bicavitary effusion and a heart murmur.  They prepared me for her to die, but with a hydrolyzed diet, probiotics, predisone, and mycophenolate she lived on for 6 happy years.    She's been struggling lately but I thought we'd have more time.  I thought we'd be able to take one more walk in the twilight, let her believe that she could catch those rabbits for a moment, eat some grass, sniff her favorite tree.    But no, this morning, she peed all over the floor and herself and was unable to rise.  Her pelvic limbs have no deep pain sensation.  I thought I would have to do it myself; all I do is in-home euthanasias, but a co-worker is on her way in less than an hour.    Even though this is all I do, and I guide people through this very situation with empathy and grace, I am unable to help myself.  I am so sad.  I am filled with regret.  I don't know how I can attempt my next appointment.  I am lost.  Fellow veterinarians, how did you get through this?  I've lost pets before, of course, but I am sitting here drawing up her euthanasia drugs for my coworker (She doesn't have hers with her today) and I cannot stop these deep ugly sobs.  I love you, pastabatman fluppa girl.  You were the soul of greed, and when we first met you, you chased the tennis ball instead of approaching us, and you were the best girl ever.  Run free, my sweet.  Run free.", "c_root_id_A": "fvgmg20", "c_root_id_B": "fvglghg", "created_at_utc_A": 1592676979, "created_at_utc_B": 1592676431, "score_A": 16, "score_B": 12, "human_ref_A": "So sorry you\u2019ve gotta go through this.  I\u2019m not a vet but (nearly) an RN.  My gf is a vet.  Just because this is your job doesn\u2019t mean you don\u2019t get to feel the same things everyone else does when they go through this experience.", "human_ref_B": "I\u2019m so sorry. I\u2019m a 2019 grad and my 10 year old Collie was just diagnosed with DM.  I wish I could help you, my heart goes out to be. I think sometimes it just hurts, because loving someone so much is such a vulnerable place. The great pain reflects the great love we served them with.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 548.0, "score_ratio": 1.3333333333, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "hcoynp", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Veterinarians losing a pet of their own My 14 year old female spayed doberman mix has degenerative myelopathy, and it progressed this morning so that she was unable to stand.    She has many comorbidities.  She had PLE while I was in school; her TP was < 2, she had bicavitary effusion and a heart murmur.  They prepared me for her to die, but with a hydrolyzed diet, probiotics, predisone, and mycophenolate she lived on for 6 happy years.    She's been struggling lately but I thought we'd have more time.  I thought we'd be able to take one more walk in the twilight, let her believe that she could catch those rabbits for a moment, eat some grass, sniff her favorite tree.    But no, this morning, she peed all over the floor and herself and was unable to rise.  Her pelvic limbs have no deep pain sensation.  I thought I would have to do it myself; all I do is in-home euthanasias, but a co-worker is on her way in less than an hour.    Even though this is all I do, and I guide people through this very situation with empathy and grace, I am unable to help myself.  I am so sad.  I am filled with regret.  I don't know how I can attempt my next appointment.  I am lost.  Fellow veterinarians, how did you get through this?  I've lost pets before, of course, but I am sitting here drawing up her euthanasia drugs for my coworker (She doesn't have hers with her today) and I cannot stop these deep ugly sobs.  I love you, pastabatman fluppa girl.  You were the soul of greed, and when we first met you, you chased the tennis ball instead of approaching us, and you were the best girl ever.  Run free, my sweet.  Run free.", "c_root_id_A": "fvg9jrj", "c_root_id_B": "fvgmg20", "created_at_utc_A": 1592669899, "created_at_utc_B": 1592676979, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 16, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "So sorry you\u2019ve gotta go through this.  I\u2019m not a vet but (nearly) an RN.  My gf is a vet.  Just because this is your job doesn\u2019t mean you don\u2019t get to feel the same things everyone else does when they go through this experience.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 7080.0, "score_ratio": 16.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "hcoynp", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Veterinarians losing a pet of their own My 14 year old female spayed doberman mix has degenerative myelopathy, and it progressed this morning so that she was unable to stand.    She has many comorbidities.  She had PLE while I was in school; her TP was < 2, she had bicavitary effusion and a heart murmur.  They prepared me for her to die, but with a hydrolyzed diet, probiotics, predisone, and mycophenolate she lived on for 6 happy years.    She's been struggling lately but I thought we'd have more time.  I thought we'd be able to take one more walk in the twilight, let her believe that she could catch those rabbits for a moment, eat some grass, sniff her favorite tree.    But no, this morning, she peed all over the floor and herself and was unable to rise.  Her pelvic limbs have no deep pain sensation.  I thought I would have to do it myself; all I do is in-home euthanasias, but a co-worker is on her way in less than an hour.    Even though this is all I do, and I guide people through this very situation with empathy and grace, I am unable to help myself.  I am so sad.  I am filled with regret.  I don't know how I can attempt my next appointment.  I am lost.  Fellow veterinarians, how did you get through this?  I've lost pets before, of course, but I am sitting here drawing up her euthanasia drugs for my coworker (She doesn't have hers with her today) and I cannot stop these deep ugly sobs.  I love you, pastabatman fluppa girl.  You were the soul of greed, and when we first met you, you chased the tennis ball instead of approaching us, and you were the best girl ever.  Run free, my sweet.  Run free.", "c_root_id_A": "fvgg8ge", "c_root_id_B": "fvgmg20", "created_at_utc_A": 1592673561, "created_at_utc_B": 1592676979, "score_A": -23, "score_B": 16, "human_ref_A": "I suspect this thread will turn into a shitshow, so please don't be surprised if we need to lock it.  To answer the question, loss is part of life. From your post I suspect this is your first personal experience with it, but it won't be your last. Grief is normal, and there is no use trying to suppress or evade it.   Most people can empathize with the idea of losing someone and offer their sympathies based on their theoretical understanding of the concept. However, those who haven't been through it themselves don't understand that eventually, you'll get over it. You too will in due time, and that too is normal and not a sign of disrespect.  Feel free to also seek out /r/petloss if you want to talk about this more.", "human_ref_B": "So sorry you\u2019ve gotta go through this.  I\u2019m not a vet but (nearly) an RN.  My gf is a vet.  Just because this is your job doesn\u2019t mean you don\u2019t get to feel the same things everyone else does when they go through this experience.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 3418.0, "score_ratio": -0.6956521739, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "hcoynp", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Veterinarians losing a pet of their own My 14 year old female spayed doberman mix has degenerative myelopathy, and it progressed this morning so that she was unable to stand.    She has many comorbidities.  She had PLE while I was in school; her TP was < 2, she had bicavitary effusion and a heart murmur.  They prepared me for her to die, but with a hydrolyzed diet, probiotics, predisone, and mycophenolate she lived on for 6 happy years.    She's been struggling lately but I thought we'd have more time.  I thought we'd be able to take one more walk in the twilight, let her believe that she could catch those rabbits for a moment, eat some grass, sniff her favorite tree.    But no, this morning, she peed all over the floor and herself and was unable to rise.  Her pelvic limbs have no deep pain sensation.  I thought I would have to do it myself; all I do is in-home euthanasias, but a co-worker is on her way in less than an hour.    Even though this is all I do, and I guide people through this very situation with empathy and grace, I am unable to help myself.  I am so sad.  I am filled with regret.  I don't know how I can attempt my next appointment.  I am lost.  Fellow veterinarians, how did you get through this?  I've lost pets before, of course, but I am sitting here drawing up her euthanasia drugs for my coworker (She doesn't have hers with her today) and I cannot stop these deep ugly sobs.  I love you, pastabatman fluppa girl.  You were the soul of greed, and when we first met you, you chased the tennis ball instead of approaching us, and you were the best girl ever.  Run free, my sweet.  Run free.", "c_root_id_A": "fvgfadj", "c_root_id_B": "fvg9jrj", "created_at_utc_A": 1592673039, "created_at_utc_B": 1592669899, "score_A": 12, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "So sorry for your loss", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 3140.0, "score_ratio": 12.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "hcoynp", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Veterinarians losing a pet of their own My 14 year old female spayed doberman mix has degenerative myelopathy, and it progressed this morning so that she was unable to stand.    She has many comorbidities.  She had PLE while I was in school; her TP was < 2, she had bicavitary effusion and a heart murmur.  They prepared me for her to die, but with a hydrolyzed diet, probiotics, predisone, and mycophenolate she lived on for 6 happy years.    She's been struggling lately but I thought we'd have more time.  I thought we'd be able to take one more walk in the twilight, let her believe that she could catch those rabbits for a moment, eat some grass, sniff her favorite tree.    But no, this morning, she peed all over the floor and herself and was unable to rise.  Her pelvic limbs have no deep pain sensation.  I thought I would have to do it myself; all I do is in-home euthanasias, but a co-worker is on her way in less than an hour.    Even though this is all I do, and I guide people through this very situation with empathy and grace, I am unable to help myself.  I am so sad.  I am filled with regret.  I don't know how I can attempt my next appointment.  I am lost.  Fellow veterinarians, how did you get through this?  I've lost pets before, of course, but I am sitting here drawing up her euthanasia drugs for my coworker (She doesn't have hers with her today) and I cannot stop these deep ugly sobs.  I love you, pastabatman fluppa girl.  You were the soul of greed, and when we first met you, you chased the tennis ball instead of approaching us, and you were the best girl ever.  Run free, my sweet.  Run free.", "c_root_id_A": "fvglghg", "c_root_id_B": "fvg9jrj", "created_at_utc_A": 1592676431, "created_at_utc_B": 1592669899, "score_A": 12, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I\u2019m so sorry. I\u2019m a 2019 grad and my 10 year old Collie was just diagnosed with DM.  I wish I could help you, my heart goes out to be. I think sometimes it just hurts, because loving someone so much is such a vulnerable place. The great pain reflects the great love we served them with.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 6532.0, "score_ratio": 12.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "hcoynp", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Veterinarians losing a pet of their own My 14 year old female spayed doberman mix has degenerative myelopathy, and it progressed this morning so that she was unable to stand.    She has many comorbidities.  She had PLE while I was in school; her TP was < 2, she had bicavitary effusion and a heart murmur.  They prepared me for her to die, but with a hydrolyzed diet, probiotics, predisone, and mycophenolate she lived on for 6 happy years.    She's been struggling lately but I thought we'd have more time.  I thought we'd be able to take one more walk in the twilight, let her believe that she could catch those rabbits for a moment, eat some grass, sniff her favorite tree.    But no, this morning, she peed all over the floor and herself and was unable to rise.  Her pelvic limbs have no deep pain sensation.  I thought I would have to do it myself; all I do is in-home euthanasias, but a co-worker is on her way in less than an hour.    Even though this is all I do, and I guide people through this very situation with empathy and grace, I am unable to help myself.  I am so sad.  I am filled with regret.  I don't know how I can attempt my next appointment.  I am lost.  Fellow veterinarians, how did you get through this?  I've lost pets before, of course, but I am sitting here drawing up her euthanasia drugs for my coworker (She doesn't have hers with her today) and I cannot stop these deep ugly sobs.  I love you, pastabatman fluppa girl.  You were the soul of greed, and when we first met you, you chased the tennis ball instead of approaching us, and you were the best girl ever.  Run free, my sweet.  Run free.", "c_root_id_A": "fvgg8ge", "c_root_id_B": "fvglghg", "created_at_utc_A": 1592673561, "created_at_utc_B": 1592676431, "score_A": -23, "score_B": 12, "human_ref_A": "I suspect this thread will turn into a shitshow, so please don't be surprised if we need to lock it.  To answer the question, loss is part of life. From your post I suspect this is your first personal experience with it, but it won't be your last. Grief is normal, and there is no use trying to suppress or evade it.   Most people can empathize with the idea of losing someone and offer their sympathies based on their theoretical understanding of the concept. However, those who haven't been through it themselves don't understand that eventually, you'll get over it. You too will in due time, and that too is normal and not a sign of disrespect.  Feel free to also seek out /r/petloss if you want to talk about this more.", "human_ref_B": "I\u2019m so sorry. I\u2019m a 2019 grad and my 10 year old Collie was just diagnosed with DM.  I wish I could help you, my heart goes out to be. I think sometimes it just hurts, because loving someone so much is such a vulnerable place. The great pain reflects the great love we served them with.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 2870.0, "score_ratio": -0.5217391304, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "hcoynp", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Veterinarians losing a pet of their own My 14 year old female spayed doberman mix has degenerative myelopathy, and it progressed this morning so that she was unable to stand.    She has many comorbidities.  She had PLE while I was in school; her TP was < 2, she had bicavitary effusion and a heart murmur.  They prepared me for her to die, but with a hydrolyzed diet, probiotics, predisone, and mycophenolate she lived on for 6 happy years.    She's been struggling lately but I thought we'd have more time.  I thought we'd be able to take one more walk in the twilight, let her believe that she could catch those rabbits for a moment, eat some grass, sniff her favorite tree.    But no, this morning, she peed all over the floor and herself and was unable to rise.  Her pelvic limbs have no deep pain sensation.  I thought I would have to do it myself; all I do is in-home euthanasias, but a co-worker is on her way in less than an hour.    Even though this is all I do, and I guide people through this very situation with empathy and grace, I am unable to help myself.  I am so sad.  I am filled with regret.  I don't know how I can attempt my next appointment.  I am lost.  Fellow veterinarians, how did you get through this?  I've lost pets before, of course, but I am sitting here drawing up her euthanasia drugs for my coworker (She doesn't have hers with her today) and I cannot stop these deep ugly sobs.  I love you, pastabatman fluppa girl.  You were the soul of greed, and when we first met you, you chased the tennis ball instead of approaching us, and you were the best girl ever.  Run free, my sweet.  Run free.", "c_root_id_A": "fvg9jrj", "c_root_id_B": "fvguume", "created_at_utc_A": 1592669899, "created_at_utc_B": 1592681642, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 6, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "You are only human. Feel that pain and process it however you can. Losing a pet is never easy. It is a first hand reminder of everything your clients are going through and will only help you to be a better vet. I\u2019m so sorry for the loss of your baby. My 13 year old just left me in January. You gave her 6 extra years and a beautiful lifelong family. She had everything a dog can ask for now it\u2019s time for her to run across the rainbow bridge happy and whole again. I wish you much comfort in this time, but don\u2019t rush yourself you deserve to grieve.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 11743.0, "score_ratio": 6.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "hcoynp", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Veterinarians losing a pet of their own My 14 year old female spayed doberman mix has degenerative myelopathy, and it progressed this morning so that she was unable to stand.    She has many comorbidities.  She had PLE while I was in school; her TP was < 2, she had bicavitary effusion and a heart murmur.  They prepared me for her to die, but with a hydrolyzed diet, probiotics, predisone, and mycophenolate she lived on for 6 happy years.    She's been struggling lately but I thought we'd have more time.  I thought we'd be able to take one more walk in the twilight, let her believe that she could catch those rabbits for a moment, eat some grass, sniff her favorite tree.    But no, this morning, she peed all over the floor and herself and was unable to rise.  Her pelvic limbs have no deep pain sensation.  I thought I would have to do it myself; all I do is in-home euthanasias, but a co-worker is on her way in less than an hour.    Even though this is all I do, and I guide people through this very situation with empathy and grace, I am unable to help myself.  I am so sad.  I am filled with regret.  I don't know how I can attempt my next appointment.  I am lost.  Fellow veterinarians, how did you get through this?  I've lost pets before, of course, but I am sitting here drawing up her euthanasia drugs for my coworker (She doesn't have hers with her today) and I cannot stop these deep ugly sobs.  I love you, pastabatman fluppa girl.  You were the soul of greed, and when we first met you, you chased the tennis ball instead of approaching us, and you were the best girl ever.  Run free, my sweet.  Run free.", "c_root_id_A": "fvgg8ge", "c_root_id_B": "fvguume", "created_at_utc_A": 1592673561, "created_at_utc_B": 1592681642, "score_A": -23, "score_B": 6, "human_ref_A": "I suspect this thread will turn into a shitshow, so please don't be surprised if we need to lock it.  To answer the question, loss is part of life. From your post I suspect this is your first personal experience with it, but it won't be your last. Grief is normal, and there is no use trying to suppress or evade it.   Most people can empathize with the idea of losing someone and offer their sympathies based on their theoretical understanding of the concept. However, those who haven't been through it themselves don't understand that eventually, you'll get over it. You too will in due time, and that too is normal and not a sign of disrespect.  Feel free to also seek out /r/petloss if you want to talk about this more.", "human_ref_B": "You are only human. Feel that pain and process it however you can. Losing a pet is never easy. It is a first hand reminder of everything your clients are going through and will only help you to be a better vet. I\u2019m so sorry for the loss of your baby. My 13 year old just left me in January. You gave her 6 extra years and a beautiful lifelong family. She had everything a dog can ask for now it\u2019s time for her to run across the rainbow bridge happy and whole again. I wish you much comfort in this time, but don\u2019t rush yourself you deserve to grieve.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 8081.0, "score_ratio": -0.2608695652, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "hcoynp", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Veterinarians losing a pet of their own My 14 year old female spayed doberman mix has degenerative myelopathy, and it progressed this morning so that she was unable to stand.    She has many comorbidities.  She had PLE while I was in school; her TP was < 2, she had bicavitary effusion and a heart murmur.  They prepared me for her to die, but with a hydrolyzed diet, probiotics, predisone, and mycophenolate she lived on for 6 happy years.    She's been struggling lately but I thought we'd have more time.  I thought we'd be able to take one more walk in the twilight, let her believe that she could catch those rabbits for a moment, eat some grass, sniff her favorite tree.    But no, this morning, she peed all over the floor and herself and was unable to rise.  Her pelvic limbs have no deep pain sensation.  I thought I would have to do it myself; all I do is in-home euthanasias, but a co-worker is on her way in less than an hour.    Even though this is all I do, and I guide people through this very situation with empathy and grace, I am unable to help myself.  I am so sad.  I am filled with regret.  I don't know how I can attempt my next appointment.  I am lost.  Fellow veterinarians, how did you get through this?  I've lost pets before, of course, but I am sitting here drawing up her euthanasia drugs for my coworker (She doesn't have hers with her today) and I cannot stop these deep ugly sobs.  I love you, pastabatman fluppa girl.  You were the soul of greed, and when we first met you, you chased the tennis ball instead of approaching us, and you were the best girl ever.  Run free, my sweet.  Run free.", "c_root_id_A": "fvgy9jb", "c_root_id_B": "fvia8rp", "created_at_utc_A": 1592683557, "created_at_utc_B": 1592712282, "score_A": 3, "score_B": 5, "human_ref_A": "I not going to lie  it hurts to loose out friends, I haven't lost one since qualifying but I am dreading the day our greyhound's legs give up on him and just the thought of it is so painful. If you're in the UK VetLife can offer you support or just someone to talk to. Remember your support network, colleagues  friends, family. It will always hurt, but it will get manageable and then it will get better. For your clients remember you're taking their pet's pain and suffering away and it is a privilege to be able to help them and their pet like that, even if you do cry in front of a couple they won't judge you for it, you're only human", "human_ref_B": "You provide a service that is truly commendable and from your words you have helped so many others in dealing with their loss. I have so much respect for you for doing it! It takes a certain type that can compartmentalize that day to day. You are giving compassion to so many pets and families by your work and you should be proud of it!  However your own experience is absolutely different from those you have helped, and I am so sorry you are going through that, and I am so very sorry for your loss! It is definitely not easy to lose someone close to us no matter our profession. Our pets give us so much unconditional love!  I also want to say that Human Doctors and Nurses are not allowed to treat members of their family, and there is a reason for that. It\u2019s the same reason you called your coworker over. We can\u2019t think the same when it\u2019s so close to us, the immediate reaction is to do everything we can to save them even when it\u2019s not the best thing for the patient. The closest comparison to what you do on a daily basis to human care is hospice, but even they can\u2019t show the kind of compassionate care you do every day for your clients, that you were able to for your sweet pup. I wish they could, but I hope that you can take some solace in that as you think about work.   Again I am sorry for your loss, and keep some comfort in knowing you will see them again over the rainbow bridge.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 28725.0, "score_ratio": 1.6666666667, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "hcoynp", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Veterinarians losing a pet of their own My 14 year old female spayed doberman mix has degenerative myelopathy, and it progressed this morning so that she was unable to stand.    She has many comorbidities.  She had PLE while I was in school; her TP was < 2, she had bicavitary effusion and a heart murmur.  They prepared me for her to die, but with a hydrolyzed diet, probiotics, predisone, and mycophenolate she lived on for 6 happy years.    She's been struggling lately but I thought we'd have more time.  I thought we'd be able to take one more walk in the twilight, let her believe that she could catch those rabbits for a moment, eat some grass, sniff her favorite tree.    But no, this morning, she peed all over the floor and herself and was unable to rise.  Her pelvic limbs have no deep pain sensation.  I thought I would have to do it myself; all I do is in-home euthanasias, but a co-worker is on her way in less than an hour.    Even though this is all I do, and I guide people through this very situation with empathy and grace, I am unable to help myself.  I am so sad.  I am filled with regret.  I don't know how I can attempt my next appointment.  I am lost.  Fellow veterinarians, how did you get through this?  I've lost pets before, of course, but I am sitting here drawing up her euthanasia drugs for my coworker (She doesn't have hers with her today) and I cannot stop these deep ugly sobs.  I love you, pastabatman fluppa girl.  You were the soul of greed, and when we first met you, you chased the tennis ball instead of approaching us, and you were the best girl ever.  Run free, my sweet.  Run free.", "c_root_id_A": "fvg9jrj", "c_root_id_B": "fvia8rp", "created_at_utc_A": 1592669899, "created_at_utc_B": 1592712282, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 5, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "You provide a service that is truly commendable and from your words you have helped so many others in dealing with their loss. I have so much respect for you for doing it! It takes a certain type that can compartmentalize that day to day. You are giving compassion to so many pets and families by your work and you should be proud of it!  However your own experience is absolutely different from those you have helped, and I am so sorry you are going through that, and I am so very sorry for your loss! It is definitely not easy to lose someone close to us no matter our profession. Our pets give us so much unconditional love!  I also want to say that Human Doctors and Nurses are not allowed to treat members of their family, and there is a reason for that. It\u2019s the same reason you called your coworker over. We can\u2019t think the same when it\u2019s so close to us, the immediate reaction is to do everything we can to save them even when it\u2019s not the best thing for the patient. The closest comparison to what you do on a daily basis to human care is hospice, but even they can\u2019t show the kind of compassionate care you do every day for your clients, that you were able to for your sweet pup. I wish they could, but I hope that you can take some solace in that as you think about work.   Again I am sorry for your loss, and keep some comfort in knowing you will see them again over the rainbow bridge.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 42383.0, "score_ratio": 5.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "hcoynp", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Veterinarians losing a pet of their own My 14 year old female spayed doberman mix has degenerative myelopathy, and it progressed this morning so that she was unable to stand.    She has many comorbidities.  She had PLE while I was in school; her TP was < 2, she had bicavitary effusion and a heart murmur.  They prepared me for her to die, but with a hydrolyzed diet, probiotics, predisone, and mycophenolate she lived on for 6 happy years.    She's been struggling lately but I thought we'd have more time.  I thought we'd be able to take one more walk in the twilight, let her believe that she could catch those rabbits for a moment, eat some grass, sniff her favorite tree.    But no, this morning, she peed all over the floor and herself and was unable to rise.  Her pelvic limbs have no deep pain sensation.  I thought I would have to do it myself; all I do is in-home euthanasias, but a co-worker is on her way in less than an hour.    Even though this is all I do, and I guide people through this very situation with empathy and grace, I am unable to help myself.  I am so sad.  I am filled with regret.  I don't know how I can attempt my next appointment.  I am lost.  Fellow veterinarians, how did you get through this?  I've lost pets before, of course, but I am sitting here drawing up her euthanasia drugs for my coworker (She doesn't have hers with her today) and I cannot stop these deep ugly sobs.  I love you, pastabatman fluppa girl.  You were the soul of greed, and when we first met you, you chased the tennis ball instead of approaching us, and you were the best girl ever.  Run free, my sweet.  Run free.", "c_root_id_A": "fvia8rp", "c_root_id_B": "fvhaobe", "created_at_utc_A": 1592712282, "created_at_utc_B": 1592690557, "score_A": 5, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "You provide a service that is truly commendable and from your words you have helped so many others in dealing with their loss. I have so much respect for you for doing it! It takes a certain type that can compartmentalize that day to day. You are giving compassion to so many pets and families by your work and you should be proud of it!  However your own experience is absolutely different from those you have helped, and I am so sorry you are going through that, and I am so very sorry for your loss! It is definitely not easy to lose someone close to us no matter our profession. Our pets give us so much unconditional love!  I also want to say that Human Doctors and Nurses are not allowed to treat members of their family, and there is a reason for that. It\u2019s the same reason you called your coworker over. We can\u2019t think the same when it\u2019s so close to us, the immediate reaction is to do everything we can to save them even when it\u2019s not the best thing for the patient. The closest comparison to what you do on a daily basis to human care is hospice, but even they can\u2019t show the kind of compassionate care you do every day for your clients, that you were able to for your sweet pup. I wish they could, but I hope that you can take some solace in that as you think about work.   Again I am sorry for your loss, and keep some comfort in knowing you will see them again over the rainbow bridge.", "human_ref_B": "I'm very sorry. Loosing a pet is so very very difficult. I'm glad you have a friend coming to help you.   Please continue to do what you do. You are a special person allowing us to say goodbye to out pets at home.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 21725.0, "score_ratio": 2.5, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "hcoynp", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Veterinarians losing a pet of their own My 14 year old female spayed doberman mix has degenerative myelopathy, and it progressed this morning so that she was unable to stand.    She has many comorbidities.  She had PLE while I was in school; her TP was < 2, she had bicavitary effusion and a heart murmur.  They prepared me for her to die, but with a hydrolyzed diet, probiotics, predisone, and mycophenolate she lived on for 6 happy years.    She's been struggling lately but I thought we'd have more time.  I thought we'd be able to take one more walk in the twilight, let her believe that she could catch those rabbits for a moment, eat some grass, sniff her favorite tree.    But no, this morning, she peed all over the floor and herself and was unable to rise.  Her pelvic limbs have no deep pain sensation.  I thought I would have to do it myself; all I do is in-home euthanasias, but a co-worker is on her way in less than an hour.    Even though this is all I do, and I guide people through this very situation with empathy and grace, I am unable to help myself.  I am so sad.  I am filled with regret.  I don't know how I can attempt my next appointment.  I am lost.  Fellow veterinarians, how did you get through this?  I've lost pets before, of course, but I am sitting here drawing up her euthanasia drugs for my coworker (She doesn't have hers with her today) and I cannot stop these deep ugly sobs.  I love you, pastabatman fluppa girl.  You were the soul of greed, and when we first met you, you chased the tennis ball instead of approaching us, and you were the best girl ever.  Run free, my sweet.  Run free.", "c_root_id_A": "fvhxkgi", "c_root_id_B": "fvia8rp", "created_at_utc_A": 1592704099, "created_at_utc_B": 1592712282, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 5, "human_ref_A": "So sorry for what you've been through. That doggy was so lucky to be loved by you.", "human_ref_B": "You provide a service that is truly commendable and from your words you have helped so many others in dealing with their loss. I have so much respect for you for doing it! It takes a certain type that can compartmentalize that day to day. You are giving compassion to so many pets and families by your work and you should be proud of it!  However your own experience is absolutely different from those you have helped, and I am so sorry you are going through that, and I am so very sorry for your loss! It is definitely not easy to lose someone close to us no matter our profession. Our pets give us so much unconditional love!  I also want to say that Human Doctors and Nurses are not allowed to treat members of their family, and there is a reason for that. It\u2019s the same reason you called your coworker over. We can\u2019t think the same when it\u2019s so close to us, the immediate reaction is to do everything we can to save them even when it\u2019s not the best thing for the patient. The closest comparison to what you do on a daily basis to human care is hospice, but even they can\u2019t show the kind of compassionate care you do every day for your clients, that you were able to for your sweet pup. I wish they could, but I hope that you can take some solace in that as you think about work.   Again I am sorry for your loss, and keep some comfort in knowing you will see them again over the rainbow bridge.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 8183.0, "score_ratio": 2.5, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "hcoynp", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Veterinarians losing a pet of their own My 14 year old female spayed doberman mix has degenerative myelopathy, and it progressed this morning so that she was unable to stand.    She has many comorbidities.  She had PLE while I was in school; her TP was < 2, she had bicavitary effusion and a heart murmur.  They prepared me for her to die, but with a hydrolyzed diet, probiotics, predisone, and mycophenolate she lived on for 6 happy years.    She's been struggling lately but I thought we'd have more time.  I thought we'd be able to take one more walk in the twilight, let her believe that she could catch those rabbits for a moment, eat some grass, sniff her favorite tree.    But no, this morning, she peed all over the floor and herself and was unable to rise.  Her pelvic limbs have no deep pain sensation.  I thought I would have to do it myself; all I do is in-home euthanasias, but a co-worker is on her way in less than an hour.    Even though this is all I do, and I guide people through this very situation with empathy and grace, I am unable to help myself.  I am so sad.  I am filled with regret.  I don't know how I can attempt my next appointment.  I am lost.  Fellow veterinarians, how did you get through this?  I've lost pets before, of course, but I am sitting here drawing up her euthanasia drugs for my coworker (She doesn't have hers with her today) and I cannot stop these deep ugly sobs.  I love you, pastabatman fluppa girl.  You were the soul of greed, and when we first met you, you chased the tennis ball instead of approaching us, and you were the best girl ever.  Run free, my sweet.  Run free.", "c_root_id_A": "fvia8rp", "c_root_id_B": "fvgg8ge", "created_at_utc_A": 1592712282, "created_at_utc_B": 1592673561, "score_A": 5, "score_B": -23, "human_ref_A": "You provide a service that is truly commendable and from your words you have helped so many others in dealing with their loss. I have so much respect for you for doing it! It takes a certain type that can compartmentalize that day to day. You are giving compassion to so many pets and families by your work and you should be proud of it!  However your own experience is absolutely different from those you have helped, and I am so sorry you are going through that, and I am so very sorry for your loss! It is definitely not easy to lose someone close to us no matter our profession. Our pets give us so much unconditional love!  I also want to say that Human Doctors and Nurses are not allowed to treat members of their family, and there is a reason for that. It\u2019s the same reason you called your coworker over. We can\u2019t think the same when it\u2019s so close to us, the immediate reaction is to do everything we can to save them even when it\u2019s not the best thing for the patient. The closest comparison to what you do on a daily basis to human care is hospice, but even they can\u2019t show the kind of compassionate care you do every day for your clients, that you were able to for your sweet pup. I wish they could, but I hope that you can take some solace in that as you think about work.   Again I am sorry for your loss, and keep some comfort in knowing you will see them again over the rainbow bridge.", "human_ref_B": "I suspect this thread will turn into a shitshow, so please don't be surprised if we need to lock it.  To answer the question, loss is part of life. From your post I suspect this is your first personal experience with it, but it won't be your last. Grief is normal, and there is no use trying to suppress or evade it.   Most people can empathize with the idea of losing someone and offer their sympathies based on their theoretical understanding of the concept. However, those who haven't been through it themselves don't understand that eventually, you'll get over it. You too will in due time, and that too is normal and not a sign of disrespect.  Feel free to also seek out /r/petloss if you want to talk about this more.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 38721.0, "score_ratio": -0.2173913043, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "hcoynp", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Veterinarians losing a pet of their own My 14 year old female spayed doberman mix has degenerative myelopathy, and it progressed this morning so that she was unable to stand.    She has many comorbidities.  She had PLE while I was in school; her TP was < 2, she had bicavitary effusion and a heart murmur.  They prepared me for her to die, but with a hydrolyzed diet, probiotics, predisone, and mycophenolate she lived on for 6 happy years.    She's been struggling lately but I thought we'd have more time.  I thought we'd be able to take one more walk in the twilight, let her believe that she could catch those rabbits for a moment, eat some grass, sniff her favorite tree.    But no, this morning, she peed all over the floor and herself and was unable to rise.  Her pelvic limbs have no deep pain sensation.  I thought I would have to do it myself; all I do is in-home euthanasias, but a co-worker is on her way in less than an hour.    Even though this is all I do, and I guide people through this very situation with empathy and grace, I am unable to help myself.  I am so sad.  I am filled with regret.  I don't know how I can attempt my next appointment.  I am lost.  Fellow veterinarians, how did you get through this?  I've lost pets before, of course, but I am sitting here drawing up her euthanasia drugs for my coworker (She doesn't have hers with her today) and I cannot stop these deep ugly sobs.  I love you, pastabatman fluppa girl.  You were the soul of greed, and when we first met you, you chased the tennis ball instead of approaching us, and you were the best girl ever.  Run free, my sweet.  Run free.", "c_root_id_A": "fvg9jrj", "c_root_id_B": "fvgy9jb", "created_at_utc_A": 1592669899, "created_at_utc_B": 1592683557, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 3, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "I not going to lie  it hurts to loose out friends, I haven't lost one since qualifying but I am dreading the day our greyhound's legs give up on him and just the thought of it is so painful. If you're in the UK VetLife can offer you support or just someone to talk to. Remember your support network, colleagues  friends, family. It will always hurt, but it will get manageable and then it will get better. For your clients remember you're taking their pet's pain and suffering away and it is a privilege to be able to help them and their pet like that, even if you do cry in front of a couple they won't judge you for it, you're only human", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 13658.0, "score_ratio": 3.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "hcoynp", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Veterinarians losing a pet of their own My 14 year old female spayed doberman mix has degenerative myelopathy, and it progressed this morning so that she was unable to stand.    She has many comorbidities.  She had PLE while I was in school; her TP was < 2, she had bicavitary effusion and a heart murmur.  They prepared me for her to die, but with a hydrolyzed diet, probiotics, predisone, and mycophenolate she lived on for 6 happy years.    She's been struggling lately but I thought we'd have more time.  I thought we'd be able to take one more walk in the twilight, let her believe that she could catch those rabbits for a moment, eat some grass, sniff her favorite tree.    But no, this morning, she peed all over the floor and herself and was unable to rise.  Her pelvic limbs have no deep pain sensation.  I thought I would have to do it myself; all I do is in-home euthanasias, but a co-worker is on her way in less than an hour.    Even though this is all I do, and I guide people through this very situation with empathy and grace, I am unable to help myself.  I am so sad.  I am filled with regret.  I don't know how I can attempt my next appointment.  I am lost.  Fellow veterinarians, how did you get through this?  I've lost pets before, of course, but I am sitting here drawing up her euthanasia drugs for my coworker (She doesn't have hers with her today) and I cannot stop these deep ugly sobs.  I love you, pastabatman fluppa girl.  You were the soul of greed, and when we first met you, you chased the tennis ball instead of approaching us, and you were the best girl ever.  Run free, my sweet.  Run free.", "c_root_id_A": "fvgg8ge", "c_root_id_B": "fvgy9jb", "created_at_utc_A": 1592673561, "created_at_utc_B": 1592683557, "score_A": -23, "score_B": 3, "human_ref_A": "I suspect this thread will turn into a shitshow, so please don't be surprised if we need to lock it.  To answer the question, loss is part of life. From your post I suspect this is your first personal experience with it, but it won't be your last. Grief is normal, and there is no use trying to suppress or evade it.   Most people can empathize with the idea of losing someone and offer their sympathies based on their theoretical understanding of the concept. However, those who haven't been through it themselves don't understand that eventually, you'll get over it. You too will in due time, and that too is normal and not a sign of disrespect.  Feel free to also seek out /r/petloss if you want to talk about this more.", "human_ref_B": "I not going to lie  it hurts to loose out friends, I haven't lost one since qualifying but I am dreading the day our greyhound's legs give up on him and just the thought of it is so painful. If you're in the UK VetLife can offer you support or just someone to talk to. Remember your support network, colleagues  friends, family. It will always hurt, but it will get manageable and then it will get better. For your clients remember you're taking their pet's pain and suffering away and it is a privilege to be able to help them and their pet like that, even if you do cry in front of a couple they won't judge you for it, you're only human", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 9996.0, "score_ratio": -0.1304347826, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "hcoynp", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Veterinarians losing a pet of their own My 14 year old female spayed doberman mix has degenerative myelopathy, and it progressed this morning so that she was unable to stand.    She has many comorbidities.  She had PLE while I was in school; her TP was < 2, she had bicavitary effusion and a heart murmur.  They prepared me for her to die, but with a hydrolyzed diet, probiotics, predisone, and mycophenolate she lived on for 6 happy years.    She's been struggling lately but I thought we'd have more time.  I thought we'd be able to take one more walk in the twilight, let her believe that she could catch those rabbits for a moment, eat some grass, sniff her favorite tree.    But no, this morning, she peed all over the floor and herself and was unable to rise.  Her pelvic limbs have no deep pain sensation.  I thought I would have to do it myself; all I do is in-home euthanasias, but a co-worker is on her way in less than an hour.    Even though this is all I do, and I guide people through this very situation with empathy and grace, I am unable to help myself.  I am so sad.  I am filled with regret.  I don't know how I can attempt my next appointment.  I am lost.  Fellow veterinarians, how did you get through this?  I've lost pets before, of course, but I am sitting here drawing up her euthanasia drugs for my coworker (She doesn't have hers with her today) and I cannot stop these deep ugly sobs.  I love you, pastabatman fluppa girl.  You were the soul of greed, and when we first met you, you chased the tennis ball instead of approaching us, and you were the best girl ever.  Run free, my sweet.  Run free.", "c_root_id_A": "fvg9jrj", "c_root_id_B": "fvhaobe", "created_at_utc_A": 1592669899, "created_at_utc_B": 1592690557, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "I'm very sorry. Loosing a pet is so very very difficult. I'm glad you have a friend coming to help you.   Please continue to do what you do. You are a special person allowing us to say goodbye to out pets at home.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 20658.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "hcoynp", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Veterinarians losing a pet of their own My 14 year old female spayed doberman mix has degenerative myelopathy, and it progressed this morning so that she was unable to stand.    She has many comorbidities.  She had PLE while I was in school; her TP was < 2, she had bicavitary effusion and a heart murmur.  They prepared me for her to die, but with a hydrolyzed diet, probiotics, predisone, and mycophenolate she lived on for 6 happy years.    She's been struggling lately but I thought we'd have more time.  I thought we'd be able to take one more walk in the twilight, let her believe that she could catch those rabbits for a moment, eat some grass, sniff her favorite tree.    But no, this morning, she peed all over the floor and herself and was unable to rise.  Her pelvic limbs have no deep pain sensation.  I thought I would have to do it myself; all I do is in-home euthanasias, but a co-worker is on her way in less than an hour.    Even though this is all I do, and I guide people through this very situation with empathy and grace, I am unable to help myself.  I am so sad.  I am filled with regret.  I don't know how I can attempt my next appointment.  I am lost.  Fellow veterinarians, how did you get through this?  I've lost pets before, of course, but I am sitting here drawing up her euthanasia drugs for my coworker (She doesn't have hers with her today) and I cannot stop these deep ugly sobs.  I love you, pastabatman fluppa girl.  You were the soul of greed, and when we first met you, you chased the tennis ball instead of approaching us, and you were the best girl ever.  Run free, my sweet.  Run free.", "c_root_id_A": "fvhxkgi", "c_root_id_B": "fvg9jrj", "created_at_utc_A": 1592704099, "created_at_utc_B": 1592669899, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "So sorry for what you've been through. That doggy was so lucky to be loved by you.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 34200.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "hcoynp", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Veterinarians losing a pet of their own My 14 year old female spayed doberman mix has degenerative myelopathy, and it progressed this morning so that she was unable to stand.    She has many comorbidities.  She had PLE while I was in school; her TP was < 2, she had bicavitary effusion and a heart murmur.  They prepared me for her to die, but with a hydrolyzed diet, probiotics, predisone, and mycophenolate she lived on for 6 happy years.    She's been struggling lately but I thought we'd have more time.  I thought we'd be able to take one more walk in the twilight, let her believe that she could catch those rabbits for a moment, eat some grass, sniff her favorite tree.    But no, this morning, she peed all over the floor and herself and was unable to rise.  Her pelvic limbs have no deep pain sensation.  I thought I would have to do it myself; all I do is in-home euthanasias, but a co-worker is on her way in less than an hour.    Even though this is all I do, and I guide people through this very situation with empathy and grace, I am unable to help myself.  I am so sad.  I am filled with regret.  I don't know how I can attempt my next appointment.  I am lost.  Fellow veterinarians, how did you get through this?  I've lost pets before, of course, but I am sitting here drawing up her euthanasia drugs for my coworker (She doesn't have hers with her today) and I cannot stop these deep ugly sobs.  I love you, pastabatman fluppa girl.  You were the soul of greed, and when we first met you, you chased the tennis ball instead of approaching us, and you were the best girl ever.  Run free, my sweet.  Run free.", "c_root_id_A": "fvg9jrj", "c_root_id_B": "fvienky", "created_at_utc_A": 1592669899, "created_at_utc_B": 1592715495, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "There\u2019s no way around it, only through.  There\u2019s no way to make it not hurt, there\u2019s no way to make it the beginning.   It\u2019s devastating and helpless.  death should not be a part of life.m, it simply shouldn\u2019t be.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 45596.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "hcoynp", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Veterinarians losing a pet of their own My 14 year old female spayed doberman mix has degenerative myelopathy, and it progressed this morning so that she was unable to stand.    She has many comorbidities.  She had PLE while I was in school; her TP was < 2, she had bicavitary effusion and a heart murmur.  They prepared me for her to die, but with a hydrolyzed diet, probiotics, predisone, and mycophenolate she lived on for 6 happy years.    She's been struggling lately but I thought we'd have more time.  I thought we'd be able to take one more walk in the twilight, let her believe that she could catch those rabbits for a moment, eat some grass, sniff her favorite tree.    But no, this morning, she peed all over the floor and herself and was unable to rise.  Her pelvic limbs have no deep pain sensation.  I thought I would have to do it myself; all I do is in-home euthanasias, but a co-worker is on her way in less than an hour.    Even though this is all I do, and I guide people through this very situation with empathy and grace, I am unable to help myself.  I am so sad.  I am filled with regret.  I don't know how I can attempt my next appointment.  I am lost.  Fellow veterinarians, how did you get through this?  I've lost pets before, of course, but I am sitting here drawing up her euthanasia drugs for my coworker (She doesn't have hers with her today) and I cannot stop these deep ugly sobs.  I love you, pastabatman fluppa girl.  You were the soul of greed, and when we first met you, you chased the tennis ball instead of approaching us, and you were the best girl ever.  Run free, my sweet.  Run free.", "c_root_id_A": "fvg9jrj", "c_root_id_B": "fvif9ll", "created_at_utc_A": 1592669899, "created_at_utc_B": 1592715958, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "I am not a vet, I just wanted to express my deepest sympathies and best wishes to you.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 46059.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "hcoynp", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Veterinarians losing a pet of their own My 14 year old female spayed doberman mix has degenerative myelopathy, and it progressed this morning so that she was unable to stand.    She has many comorbidities.  She had PLE while I was in school; her TP was < 2, she had bicavitary effusion and a heart murmur.  They prepared me for her to die, but with a hydrolyzed diet, probiotics, predisone, and mycophenolate she lived on for 6 happy years.    She's been struggling lately but I thought we'd have more time.  I thought we'd be able to take one more walk in the twilight, let her believe that she could catch those rabbits for a moment, eat some grass, sniff her favorite tree.    But no, this morning, she peed all over the floor and herself and was unable to rise.  Her pelvic limbs have no deep pain sensation.  I thought I would have to do it myself; all I do is in-home euthanasias, but a co-worker is on her way in less than an hour.    Even though this is all I do, and I guide people through this very situation with empathy and grace, I am unable to help myself.  I am so sad.  I am filled with regret.  I don't know how I can attempt my next appointment.  I am lost.  Fellow veterinarians, how did you get through this?  I've lost pets before, of course, but I am sitting here drawing up her euthanasia drugs for my coworker (She doesn't have hers with her today) and I cannot stop these deep ugly sobs.  I love you, pastabatman fluppa girl.  You were the soul of greed, and when we first met you, you chased the tennis ball instead of approaching us, and you were the best girl ever.  Run free, my sweet.  Run free.", "c_root_id_A": "fvj4xsm", "c_root_id_B": "fvg9jrj", "created_at_utc_A": 1592740743, "created_at_utc_B": 1592669899, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I used to think that losing a dog, having to make that hard but kind decision, left me with a smaller and more bitter heart.  It took me a few dogs, but now I know that the piece of our heart that is lost when we lose a dog is actually replaced with a piece of the dog's heart, which is kind and open and loyal and loving.  What is a very good trade on our side.  Now my goal is to love enough dogs, to replace all of my cruel and selfish human heart with those bits my best friends always give back in return.  I hope that I get to live long enough, to love enough dogs, to completely exchange my heart.  Then when I die they might take me for one of their own, and let me run in their heaven.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 70844.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "hcoynp", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Veterinarians losing a pet of their own My 14 year old female spayed doberman mix has degenerative myelopathy, and it progressed this morning so that she was unable to stand.    She has many comorbidities.  She had PLE while I was in school; her TP was < 2, she had bicavitary effusion and a heart murmur.  They prepared me for her to die, but with a hydrolyzed diet, probiotics, predisone, and mycophenolate she lived on for 6 happy years.    She's been struggling lately but I thought we'd have more time.  I thought we'd be able to take one more walk in the twilight, let her believe that she could catch those rabbits for a moment, eat some grass, sniff her favorite tree.    But no, this morning, she peed all over the floor and herself and was unable to rise.  Her pelvic limbs have no deep pain sensation.  I thought I would have to do it myself; all I do is in-home euthanasias, but a co-worker is on her way in less than an hour.    Even though this is all I do, and I guide people through this very situation with empathy and grace, I am unable to help myself.  I am so sad.  I am filled with regret.  I don't know how I can attempt my next appointment.  I am lost.  Fellow veterinarians, how did you get through this?  I've lost pets before, of course, but I am sitting here drawing up her euthanasia drugs for my coworker (She doesn't have hers with her today) and I cannot stop these deep ugly sobs.  I love you, pastabatman fluppa girl.  You were the soul of greed, and when we first met you, you chased the tennis ball instead of approaching us, and you were the best girl ever.  Run free, my sweet.  Run free.", "c_root_id_A": "fvgg8ge", "c_root_id_B": "fvhaobe", "created_at_utc_A": 1592673561, "created_at_utc_B": 1592690557, "score_A": -23, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "I suspect this thread will turn into a shitshow, so please don't be surprised if we need to lock it.  To answer the question, loss is part of life. From your post I suspect this is your first personal experience with it, but it won't be your last. Grief is normal, and there is no use trying to suppress or evade it.   Most people can empathize with the idea of losing someone and offer their sympathies based on their theoretical understanding of the concept. However, those who haven't been through it themselves don't understand that eventually, you'll get over it. You too will in due time, and that too is normal and not a sign of disrespect.  Feel free to also seek out /r/petloss if you want to talk about this more.", "human_ref_B": "I'm very sorry. Loosing a pet is so very very difficult. I'm glad you have a friend coming to help you.   Please continue to do what you do. You are a special person allowing us to say goodbye to out pets at home.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 16996.0, "score_ratio": -0.0869565217, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "hcoynp", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Veterinarians losing a pet of their own My 14 year old female spayed doberman mix has degenerative myelopathy, and it progressed this morning so that she was unable to stand.    She has many comorbidities.  She had PLE while I was in school; her TP was < 2, she had bicavitary effusion and a heart murmur.  They prepared me for her to die, but with a hydrolyzed diet, probiotics, predisone, and mycophenolate she lived on for 6 happy years.    She's been struggling lately but I thought we'd have more time.  I thought we'd be able to take one more walk in the twilight, let her believe that she could catch those rabbits for a moment, eat some grass, sniff her favorite tree.    But no, this morning, she peed all over the floor and herself and was unable to rise.  Her pelvic limbs have no deep pain sensation.  I thought I would have to do it myself; all I do is in-home euthanasias, but a co-worker is on her way in less than an hour.    Even though this is all I do, and I guide people through this very situation with empathy and grace, I am unable to help myself.  I am so sad.  I am filled with regret.  I don't know how I can attempt my next appointment.  I am lost.  Fellow veterinarians, how did you get through this?  I've lost pets before, of course, but I am sitting here drawing up her euthanasia drugs for my coworker (She doesn't have hers with her today) and I cannot stop these deep ugly sobs.  I love you, pastabatman fluppa girl.  You were the soul of greed, and when we first met you, you chased the tennis ball instead of approaching us, and you were the best girl ever.  Run free, my sweet.  Run free.", "c_root_id_A": "fvgg8ge", "c_root_id_B": "fvhxkgi", "created_at_utc_A": 1592673561, "created_at_utc_B": 1592704099, "score_A": -23, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "I suspect this thread will turn into a shitshow, so please don't be surprised if we need to lock it.  To answer the question, loss is part of life. From your post I suspect this is your first personal experience with it, but it won't be your last. Grief is normal, and there is no use trying to suppress or evade it.   Most people can empathize with the idea of losing someone and offer their sympathies based on their theoretical understanding of the concept. However, those who haven't been through it themselves don't understand that eventually, you'll get over it. You too will in due time, and that too is normal and not a sign of disrespect.  Feel free to also seek out /r/petloss if you want to talk about this more.", "human_ref_B": "So sorry for what you've been through. That doggy was so lucky to be loved by you.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 30538.0, "score_ratio": -0.0869565217, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "hcoynp", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Veterinarians losing a pet of their own My 14 year old female spayed doberman mix has degenerative myelopathy, and it progressed this morning so that she was unable to stand.    She has many comorbidities.  She had PLE while I was in school; her TP was < 2, she had bicavitary effusion and a heart murmur.  They prepared me for her to die, but with a hydrolyzed diet, probiotics, predisone, and mycophenolate she lived on for 6 happy years.    She's been struggling lately but I thought we'd have more time.  I thought we'd be able to take one more walk in the twilight, let her believe that she could catch those rabbits for a moment, eat some grass, sniff her favorite tree.    But no, this morning, she peed all over the floor and herself and was unable to rise.  Her pelvic limbs have no deep pain sensation.  I thought I would have to do it myself; all I do is in-home euthanasias, but a co-worker is on her way in less than an hour.    Even though this is all I do, and I guide people through this very situation with empathy and grace, I am unable to help myself.  I am so sad.  I am filled with regret.  I don't know how I can attempt my next appointment.  I am lost.  Fellow veterinarians, how did you get through this?  I've lost pets before, of course, but I am sitting here drawing up her euthanasia drugs for my coworker (She doesn't have hers with her today) and I cannot stop these deep ugly sobs.  I love you, pastabatman fluppa girl.  You were the soul of greed, and when we first met you, you chased the tennis ball instead of approaching us, and you were the best girl ever.  Run free, my sweet.  Run free.", "c_root_id_A": "fvgg8ge", "c_root_id_B": "fvienky", "created_at_utc_A": 1592673561, "created_at_utc_B": 1592715495, "score_A": -23, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "I suspect this thread will turn into a shitshow, so please don't be surprised if we need to lock it.  To answer the question, loss is part of life. From your post I suspect this is your first personal experience with it, but it won't be your last. Grief is normal, and there is no use trying to suppress or evade it.   Most people can empathize with the idea of losing someone and offer their sympathies based on their theoretical understanding of the concept. However, those who haven't been through it themselves don't understand that eventually, you'll get over it. You too will in due time, and that too is normal and not a sign of disrespect.  Feel free to also seek out /r/petloss if you want to talk about this more.", "human_ref_B": "There\u2019s no way around it, only through.  There\u2019s no way to make it not hurt, there\u2019s no way to make it the beginning.   It\u2019s devastating and helpless.  death should not be a part of life.m, it simply shouldn\u2019t be.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 41934.0, "score_ratio": -0.0869565217, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "hcoynp", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Veterinarians losing a pet of their own My 14 year old female spayed doberman mix has degenerative myelopathy, and it progressed this morning so that she was unable to stand.    She has many comorbidities.  She had PLE while I was in school; her TP was < 2, she had bicavitary effusion and a heart murmur.  They prepared me for her to die, but with a hydrolyzed diet, probiotics, predisone, and mycophenolate she lived on for 6 happy years.    She's been struggling lately but I thought we'd have more time.  I thought we'd be able to take one more walk in the twilight, let her believe that she could catch those rabbits for a moment, eat some grass, sniff her favorite tree.    But no, this morning, she peed all over the floor and herself and was unable to rise.  Her pelvic limbs have no deep pain sensation.  I thought I would have to do it myself; all I do is in-home euthanasias, but a co-worker is on her way in less than an hour.    Even though this is all I do, and I guide people through this very situation with empathy and grace, I am unable to help myself.  I am so sad.  I am filled with regret.  I don't know how I can attempt my next appointment.  I am lost.  Fellow veterinarians, how did you get through this?  I've lost pets before, of course, but I am sitting here drawing up her euthanasia drugs for my coworker (She doesn't have hers with her today) and I cannot stop these deep ugly sobs.  I love you, pastabatman fluppa girl.  You were the soul of greed, and when we first met you, you chased the tennis ball instead of approaching us, and you were the best girl ever.  Run free, my sweet.  Run free.", "c_root_id_A": "fvgg8ge", "c_root_id_B": "fvif9ll", "created_at_utc_A": 1592673561, "created_at_utc_B": 1592715958, "score_A": -23, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "I suspect this thread will turn into a shitshow, so please don't be surprised if we need to lock it.  To answer the question, loss is part of life. From your post I suspect this is your first personal experience with it, but it won't be your last. Grief is normal, and there is no use trying to suppress or evade it.   Most people can empathize with the idea of losing someone and offer their sympathies based on their theoretical understanding of the concept. However, those who haven't been through it themselves don't understand that eventually, you'll get over it. You too will in due time, and that too is normal and not a sign of disrespect.  Feel free to also seek out /r/petloss if you want to talk about this more.", "human_ref_B": "I am not a vet, I just wanted to express my deepest sympathies and best wishes to you.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 42397.0, "score_ratio": -0.0869565217, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "hcoynp", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Veterinarians losing a pet of their own My 14 year old female spayed doberman mix has degenerative myelopathy, and it progressed this morning so that she was unable to stand.    She has many comorbidities.  She had PLE while I was in school; her TP was < 2, she had bicavitary effusion and a heart murmur.  They prepared me for her to die, but with a hydrolyzed diet, probiotics, predisone, and mycophenolate she lived on for 6 happy years.    She's been struggling lately but I thought we'd have more time.  I thought we'd be able to take one more walk in the twilight, let her believe that she could catch those rabbits for a moment, eat some grass, sniff her favorite tree.    But no, this morning, she peed all over the floor and herself and was unable to rise.  Her pelvic limbs have no deep pain sensation.  I thought I would have to do it myself; all I do is in-home euthanasias, but a co-worker is on her way in less than an hour.    Even though this is all I do, and I guide people through this very situation with empathy and grace, I am unable to help myself.  I am so sad.  I am filled with regret.  I don't know how I can attempt my next appointment.  I am lost.  Fellow veterinarians, how did you get through this?  I've lost pets before, of course, but I am sitting here drawing up her euthanasia drugs for my coworker (She doesn't have hers with her today) and I cannot stop these deep ugly sobs.  I love you, pastabatman fluppa girl.  You were the soul of greed, and when we first met you, you chased the tennis ball instead of approaching us, and you were the best girl ever.  Run free, my sweet.  Run free.", "c_root_id_A": "fvj4xsm", "c_root_id_B": "fvgg8ge", "created_at_utc_A": 1592740743, "created_at_utc_B": 1592673561, "score_A": 2, "score_B": -23, "human_ref_A": "I used to think that losing a dog, having to make that hard but kind decision, left me with a smaller and more bitter heart.  It took me a few dogs, but now I know that the piece of our heart that is lost when we lose a dog is actually replaced with a piece of the dog's heart, which is kind and open and loyal and loving.  What is a very good trade on our side.  Now my goal is to love enough dogs, to replace all of my cruel and selfish human heart with those bits my best friends always give back in return.  I hope that I get to live long enough, to love enough dogs, to completely exchange my heart.  Then when I die they might take me for one of their own, and let me run in their heaven.", "human_ref_B": "I suspect this thread will turn into a shitshow, so please don't be surprised if we need to lock it.  To answer the question, loss is part of life. From your post I suspect this is your first personal experience with it, but it won't be your last. Grief is normal, and there is no use trying to suppress or evade it.   Most people can empathize with the idea of losing someone and offer their sympathies based on their theoretical understanding of the concept. However, those who haven't been through it themselves don't understand that eventually, you'll get over it. You too will in due time, and that too is normal and not a sign of disrespect.  Feel free to also seek out /r/petloss if you want to talk about this more.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 67182.0, "score_ratio": -0.0869565217, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "hcoynp", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Veterinarians losing a pet of their own My 14 year old female spayed doberman mix has degenerative myelopathy, and it progressed this morning so that she was unable to stand.    She has many comorbidities.  She had PLE while I was in school; her TP was < 2, she had bicavitary effusion and a heart murmur.  They prepared me for her to die, but with a hydrolyzed diet, probiotics, predisone, and mycophenolate she lived on for 6 happy years.    She's been struggling lately but I thought we'd have more time.  I thought we'd be able to take one more walk in the twilight, let her believe that she could catch those rabbits for a moment, eat some grass, sniff her favorite tree.    But no, this morning, she peed all over the floor and herself and was unable to rise.  Her pelvic limbs have no deep pain sensation.  I thought I would have to do it myself; all I do is in-home euthanasias, but a co-worker is on her way in less than an hour.    Even though this is all I do, and I guide people through this very situation with empathy and grace, I am unable to help myself.  I am so sad.  I am filled with regret.  I don't know how I can attempt my next appointment.  I am lost.  Fellow veterinarians, how did you get through this?  I've lost pets before, of course, but I am sitting here drawing up her euthanasia drugs for my coworker (She doesn't have hers with her today) and I cannot stop these deep ugly sobs.  I love you, pastabatman fluppa girl.  You were the soul of greed, and when we first met you, you chased the tennis ball instead of approaching us, and you were the best girl ever.  Run free, my sweet.  Run free.", "c_root_id_A": "fx5znsv", "c_root_id_B": "fvgg8ge", "created_at_utc_A": 1594089237, "created_at_utc_B": 1592673561, "score_A": 1, "score_B": -23, "human_ref_A": "I'm so sorry you lost your beautiful girl. She looks like she was such a fun dog, thanks for sharing her pics. I just wanted you to thank you for what you do. When my childhood dogs, Maddie and Crickett, were at the end of their lives, we used an in-home euthanasia vet. The ability to give them a peaceful passing at home was a gift beyond measure. They hated the vet's office.  Ever since, I've wondered about the vets who do this, they only ever get to treat dying pets. No fat, happy puppies for first vaccinations, no rescues starting their lives with a forever family. You shoulder a huge burden. Just know that you are appreciated. The loss of a pet is horrible, but it would be so much worse without professionals like you to help us. Take care of yourself. Dont beat yourself up about your guilt, I think it's just a part of grief. I recently lost my best friend of 14 years, and I regretted every single thing I did for the past few months. Every second I didn't spend with him. Every little choice I made. I still do. But it's gotten a little better. I wish you some small comfort during this painful time. \u2661\u2661\u2661\u2661\u2661", "human_ref_B": "I suspect this thread will turn into a shitshow, so please don't be surprised if we need to lock it.  To answer the question, loss is part of life. From your post I suspect this is your first personal experience with it, but it won't be your last. Grief is normal, and there is no use trying to suppress or evade it.   Most people can empathize with the idea of losing someone and offer their sympathies based on their theoretical understanding of the concept. However, those who haven't been through it themselves don't understand that eventually, you'll get over it. You too will in due time, and that too is normal and not a sign of disrespect.  Feel free to also seek out /r/petloss if you want to talk about this more.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 1415676.0, "score_ratio": -0.0434782609, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "hcoynp", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Veterinarians losing a pet of their own My 14 year old female spayed doberman mix has degenerative myelopathy, and it progressed this morning so that she was unable to stand.    She has many comorbidities.  She had PLE while I was in school; her TP was < 2, she had bicavitary effusion and a heart murmur.  They prepared me for her to die, but with a hydrolyzed diet, probiotics, predisone, and mycophenolate she lived on for 6 happy years.    She's been struggling lately but I thought we'd have more time.  I thought we'd be able to take one more walk in the twilight, let her believe that she could catch those rabbits for a moment, eat some grass, sniff her favorite tree.    But no, this morning, she peed all over the floor and herself and was unable to rise.  Her pelvic limbs have no deep pain sensation.  I thought I would have to do it myself; all I do is in-home euthanasias, but a co-worker is on her way in less than an hour.    Even though this is all I do, and I guide people through this very situation with empathy and grace, I am unable to help myself.  I am so sad.  I am filled with regret.  I don't know how I can attempt my next appointment.  I am lost.  Fellow veterinarians, how did you get through this?  I've lost pets before, of course, but I am sitting here drawing up her euthanasia drugs for my coworker (She doesn't have hers with her today) and I cannot stop these deep ugly sobs.  I love you, pastabatman fluppa girl.  You were the soul of greed, and when we first met you, you chased the tennis ball instead of approaching us, and you were the best girl ever.  Run free, my sweet.  Run free.", "c_root_id_A": "fvgg8ge", "c_root_id_B": "fyfxqwx", "created_at_utc_A": 1592673561, "created_at_utc_B": 1595055859, "score_A": -23, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I suspect this thread will turn into a shitshow, so please don't be surprised if we need to lock it.  To answer the question, loss is part of life. From your post I suspect this is your first personal experience with it, but it won't be your last. Grief is normal, and there is no use trying to suppress or evade it.   Most people can empathize with the idea of losing someone and offer their sympathies based on their theoretical understanding of the concept. However, those who haven't been through it themselves don't understand that eventually, you'll get over it. You too will in due time, and that too is normal and not a sign of disrespect.  Feel free to also seek out /r/petloss if you want to talk about this more.", "human_ref_B": "I too am sorry for your loss and feel your pain as I had to have my best friend and companion for these last 12 years Maxwell put down this afternoon.  It was/is one of the most gut wrenching hardest decisions I have ever had to make.   The reason I am telling you this is because I sense that just like the Vet who handled the euthanasia was so compassionate and understanding and gave a sense of dignity and respect to my feelings. Thank you for being so compassionate and understanding to us who are traumatized and hurting. You Vets deserve so much respect for the extremely difficult situations you must encounter helping selfish people such as myself see that letting their pet pass in peace without suffering for my sake must tear you up? Thank you for the hard choices you help people make and the love and respect you have for animals overall. Nobody will probably read this but just have to get it off my chest and instead of feeling sorry for myself and my and your loss but show respect to those who made the process dignified.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 2382298.0, "score_ratio": -0.0434782609, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "qtytsh", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Vet made a mistake and performed an unnecessary surgery. Seeking advice. I\u2019ll try to keep this short:  My dog had an ultrasound of his stomach and they detected a large mass. They referred me to another practice for surgery. The surgeon was reluctant to perform surgery without an endoscopy and biopsy, and I was in complete agreement. He sent me to their internal medicine department for the procedure.   The report came back and it was determined that the mass was in fact likely a benign polyp. While it was not life-threatening, it was probably causing my dog to vomit blood (which is why I brought him in to begin with) so we would go ahead and remove it surgically.   The surgeon called afterwards and informed me that he was actually not able to find ANYTHING in my dog\u2019s stomach; not a mass, not a polyp, nothing! He reached out to the internal medicine doctor who clarified that while he had indicated finding a \u201clarge mass\u201d during the endoscopy, what he actually MEANT to write in the report was \u201csmall lesion,\u201d and had the surgeon had the correct information, he would have never suggested surgery. Now the diagnosis is IBD.   Now my dog is suffering needlessly as he recovers from major surgery and no recompense has been offered for the $4000 spent on a procedure that should never have happened. To say I\u2019m livid would be the understatement of the century. I would like the perspective of a professional before I reach out to the hospital director. Should I demand my money back? Is this common?", "c_root_id_A": "hkmsssr", "c_root_id_B": "hknf7ob", "created_at_utc_A": 1636922226, "created_at_utc_B": 1636931269, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 179, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Get documentation for everything and approach the internal medicine doctors practice for damages. It is not the surgeons fault and they should not be held responsible.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 9043.0, "score_ratio": 179.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "qtytsh", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Vet made a mistake and performed an unnecessary surgery. Seeking advice. I\u2019ll try to keep this short:  My dog had an ultrasound of his stomach and they detected a large mass. They referred me to another practice for surgery. The surgeon was reluctant to perform surgery without an endoscopy and biopsy, and I was in complete agreement. He sent me to their internal medicine department for the procedure.   The report came back and it was determined that the mass was in fact likely a benign polyp. While it was not life-threatening, it was probably causing my dog to vomit blood (which is why I brought him in to begin with) so we would go ahead and remove it surgically.   The surgeon called afterwards and informed me that he was actually not able to find ANYTHING in my dog\u2019s stomach; not a mass, not a polyp, nothing! He reached out to the internal medicine doctor who clarified that while he had indicated finding a \u201clarge mass\u201d during the endoscopy, what he actually MEANT to write in the report was \u201csmall lesion,\u201d and had the surgeon had the correct information, he would have never suggested surgery. Now the diagnosis is IBD.   Now my dog is suffering needlessly as he recovers from major surgery and no recompense has been offered for the $4000 spent on a procedure that should never have happened. To say I\u2019m livid would be the understatement of the century. I would like the perspective of a professional before I reach out to the hospital director. Should I demand my money back? Is this common?", "c_root_id_A": "hkn8av8", "c_root_id_B": "hkmsssr", "created_at_utc_A": 1636928337, "created_at_utc_B": 1636922226, "score_A": 58, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I think you can try talking to the internal medicine doctor's office and explain how the mistake in the report lead to the procedure and see what they can do for you. It's certainly not the surgeon's fault, at least. I wouldn't say it's common though I would want to see the full copies of both reports - the one the surgeon received first and then the corrected one - before actually being able to argue any further.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 6111.0, "score_ratio": 58.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "qtytsh", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Vet made a mistake and performed an unnecessary surgery. Seeking advice. I\u2019ll try to keep this short:  My dog had an ultrasound of his stomach and they detected a large mass. They referred me to another practice for surgery. The surgeon was reluctant to perform surgery without an endoscopy and biopsy, and I was in complete agreement. He sent me to their internal medicine department for the procedure.   The report came back and it was determined that the mass was in fact likely a benign polyp. While it was not life-threatening, it was probably causing my dog to vomit blood (which is why I brought him in to begin with) so we would go ahead and remove it surgically.   The surgeon called afterwards and informed me that he was actually not able to find ANYTHING in my dog\u2019s stomach; not a mass, not a polyp, nothing! He reached out to the internal medicine doctor who clarified that while he had indicated finding a \u201clarge mass\u201d during the endoscopy, what he actually MEANT to write in the report was \u201csmall lesion,\u201d and had the surgeon had the correct information, he would have never suggested surgery. Now the diagnosis is IBD.   Now my dog is suffering needlessly as he recovers from major surgery and no recompense has been offered for the $4000 spent on a procedure that should never have happened. To say I\u2019m livid would be the understatement of the century. I would like the perspective of a professional before I reach out to the hospital director. Should I demand my money back? Is this common?", "c_root_id_A": "hkmsssr", "c_root_id_B": "hknuhlo", "created_at_utc_A": 1636922226, "created_at_utc_B": 1636938098, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 32, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "I would ask for a copy of the records from your regular vet clinic because everything should have been sent there by the referral practice.  Review the records and organize your concerns before calling the referral practice.  If how you described things is accurate and complete as to what happened, I would ask for a refund of the surgery and for some of the IM fees.  It's good for them to know this so they can make whatever changes are necessary to prevent this from happening again in the future.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 15872.0, "score_ratio": 32.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "qtytsh", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Vet made a mistake and performed an unnecessary surgery. Seeking advice. I\u2019ll try to keep this short:  My dog had an ultrasound of his stomach and they detected a large mass. They referred me to another practice for surgery. The surgeon was reluctant to perform surgery without an endoscopy and biopsy, and I was in complete agreement. He sent me to their internal medicine department for the procedure.   The report came back and it was determined that the mass was in fact likely a benign polyp. While it was not life-threatening, it was probably causing my dog to vomit blood (which is why I brought him in to begin with) so we would go ahead and remove it surgically.   The surgeon called afterwards and informed me that he was actually not able to find ANYTHING in my dog\u2019s stomach; not a mass, not a polyp, nothing! He reached out to the internal medicine doctor who clarified that while he had indicated finding a \u201clarge mass\u201d during the endoscopy, what he actually MEANT to write in the report was \u201csmall lesion,\u201d and had the surgeon had the correct information, he would have never suggested surgery. Now the diagnosis is IBD.   Now my dog is suffering needlessly as he recovers from major surgery and no recompense has been offered for the $4000 spent on a procedure that should never have happened. To say I\u2019m livid would be the understatement of the century. I would like the perspective of a professional before I reach out to the hospital director. Should I demand my money back? Is this common?", "c_root_id_A": "hkmsssr", "c_root_id_B": "hknk16i", "created_at_utc_A": 1636922226, "created_at_utc_B": 1636933361, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 7, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "I would get a lawyer if I were you to discuss this matter and your options before contacting this hospital. They will try to downplay the incident and make it go away.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 11135.0, "score_ratio": 7.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "qtytsh", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Vet made a mistake and performed an unnecessary surgery. Seeking advice. I\u2019ll try to keep this short:  My dog had an ultrasound of his stomach and they detected a large mass. They referred me to another practice for surgery. The surgeon was reluctant to perform surgery without an endoscopy and biopsy, and I was in complete agreement. He sent me to their internal medicine department for the procedure.   The report came back and it was determined that the mass was in fact likely a benign polyp. While it was not life-threatening, it was probably causing my dog to vomit blood (which is why I brought him in to begin with) so we would go ahead and remove it surgically.   The surgeon called afterwards and informed me that he was actually not able to find ANYTHING in my dog\u2019s stomach; not a mass, not a polyp, nothing! He reached out to the internal medicine doctor who clarified that while he had indicated finding a \u201clarge mass\u201d during the endoscopy, what he actually MEANT to write in the report was \u201csmall lesion,\u201d and had the surgeon had the correct information, he would have never suggested surgery. Now the diagnosis is IBD.   Now my dog is suffering needlessly as he recovers from major surgery and no recompense has been offered for the $4000 spent on a procedure that should never have happened. To say I\u2019m livid would be the understatement of the century. I would like the perspective of a professional before I reach out to the hospital director. Should I demand my money back? Is this common?", "c_root_id_A": "hkmsssr", "c_root_id_B": "hkpilrf", "created_at_utc_A": 1636922226, "created_at_utc_B": 1636975795, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 7, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Talk to someone that is in charge of the practice. Ask them why the mistake was made and what do they normally do to prevent those issues happening. Unfortunately vets are only people and they do make mistakes. I feel sorry for your doggy and you and fully understand your concerns, however calm discussion with the practice manager would be probably the first step.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 53569.0, "score_ratio": 7.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "qtytsh", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Vet made a mistake and performed an unnecessary surgery. Seeking advice. I\u2019ll try to keep this short:  My dog had an ultrasound of his stomach and they detected a large mass. They referred me to another practice for surgery. The surgeon was reluctant to perform surgery without an endoscopy and biopsy, and I was in complete agreement. He sent me to their internal medicine department for the procedure.   The report came back and it was determined that the mass was in fact likely a benign polyp. While it was not life-threatening, it was probably causing my dog to vomit blood (which is why I brought him in to begin with) so we would go ahead and remove it surgically.   The surgeon called afterwards and informed me that he was actually not able to find ANYTHING in my dog\u2019s stomach; not a mass, not a polyp, nothing! He reached out to the internal medicine doctor who clarified that while he had indicated finding a \u201clarge mass\u201d during the endoscopy, what he actually MEANT to write in the report was \u201csmall lesion,\u201d and had the surgeon had the correct information, he would have never suggested surgery. Now the diagnosis is IBD.   Now my dog is suffering needlessly as he recovers from major surgery and no recompense has been offered for the $4000 spent on a procedure that should never have happened. To say I\u2019m livid would be the understatement of the century. I would like the perspective of a professional before I reach out to the hospital director. Should I demand my money back? Is this common?", "c_root_id_A": "hkmsssr", "c_root_id_B": "hkoxnjm", "created_at_utc_A": 1636922226, "created_at_utc_B": 1636958678, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 3, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "r/legaladvice", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 36452.0, "score_ratio": 3.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "qtytsh", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Vet made a mistake and performed an unnecessary surgery. Seeking advice. I\u2019ll try to keep this short:  My dog had an ultrasound of his stomach and they detected a large mass. They referred me to another practice for surgery. The surgeon was reluctant to perform surgery without an endoscopy and biopsy, and I was in complete agreement. He sent me to their internal medicine department for the procedure.   The report came back and it was determined that the mass was in fact likely a benign polyp. While it was not life-threatening, it was probably causing my dog to vomit blood (which is why I brought him in to begin with) so we would go ahead and remove it surgically.   The surgeon called afterwards and informed me that he was actually not able to find ANYTHING in my dog\u2019s stomach; not a mass, not a polyp, nothing! He reached out to the internal medicine doctor who clarified that while he had indicated finding a \u201clarge mass\u201d during the endoscopy, what he actually MEANT to write in the report was \u201csmall lesion,\u201d and had the surgeon had the correct information, he would have never suggested surgery. Now the diagnosis is IBD.   Now my dog is suffering needlessly as he recovers from major surgery and no recompense has been offered for the $4000 spent on a procedure that should never have happened. To say I\u2019m livid would be the understatement of the century. I would like the perspective of a professional before I reach out to the hospital director. Should I demand my money back? Is this common?", "c_root_id_A": "hkogvb2", "c_root_id_B": "hkmsssr", "created_at_utc_A": 1636948592, "created_at_utc_B": 1636922226, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Do you have pet insurance? They should pay for the procedure and then hound the doctor's office to get reimbursed.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 26366.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "qtytsh", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Vet made a mistake and performed an unnecessary surgery. Seeking advice. I\u2019ll try to keep this short:  My dog had an ultrasound of his stomach and they detected a large mass. They referred me to another practice for surgery. The surgeon was reluctant to perform surgery without an endoscopy and biopsy, and I was in complete agreement. He sent me to their internal medicine department for the procedure.   The report came back and it was determined that the mass was in fact likely a benign polyp. While it was not life-threatening, it was probably causing my dog to vomit blood (which is why I brought him in to begin with) so we would go ahead and remove it surgically.   The surgeon called afterwards and informed me that he was actually not able to find ANYTHING in my dog\u2019s stomach; not a mass, not a polyp, nothing! He reached out to the internal medicine doctor who clarified that while he had indicated finding a \u201clarge mass\u201d during the endoscopy, what he actually MEANT to write in the report was \u201csmall lesion,\u201d and had the surgeon had the correct information, he would have never suggested surgery. Now the diagnosis is IBD.   Now my dog is suffering needlessly as he recovers from major surgery and no recompense has been offered for the $4000 spent on a procedure that should never have happened. To say I\u2019m livid would be the understatement of the century. I would like the perspective of a professional before I reach out to the hospital director. Should I demand my money back? Is this common?", "c_root_id_A": "hkmsssr", "c_root_id_B": "hkycs6h", "created_at_utc_A": 1636922226, "created_at_utc_B": 1637126765, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "You\u2019ve gotten great advice. And if you haven\u2019t reached yet. I would also ask the hospital if they will be making any changes in the future to avoid this situation. You\u2019re happy you\u2019re dog is healthy but you would love to to hear a plan of action to avoid anyone else\u2019s pet going through this in the future. This allows the hospital and the doctors a chance to reflect and grow and ultimately avoid a mistake like this in the future. A good hospital should do this anyways and I know this is your reason to reach out but you may be a hero for someone else down the road.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 204539.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "qtytsh", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Vet made a mistake and performed an unnecessary surgery. Seeking advice. I\u2019ll try to keep this short:  My dog had an ultrasound of his stomach and they detected a large mass. They referred me to another practice for surgery. The surgeon was reluctant to perform surgery without an endoscopy and biopsy, and I was in complete agreement. He sent me to their internal medicine department for the procedure.   The report came back and it was determined that the mass was in fact likely a benign polyp. While it was not life-threatening, it was probably causing my dog to vomit blood (which is why I brought him in to begin with) so we would go ahead and remove it surgically.   The surgeon called afterwards and informed me that he was actually not able to find ANYTHING in my dog\u2019s stomach; not a mass, not a polyp, nothing! He reached out to the internal medicine doctor who clarified that while he had indicated finding a \u201clarge mass\u201d during the endoscopy, what he actually MEANT to write in the report was \u201csmall lesion,\u201d and had the surgeon had the correct information, he would have never suggested surgery. Now the diagnosis is IBD.   Now my dog is suffering needlessly as he recovers from major surgery and no recompense has been offered for the $4000 spent on a procedure that should never have happened. To say I\u2019m livid would be the understatement of the century. I would like the perspective of a professional before I reach out to the hospital director. Should I demand my money back? Is this common?", "c_root_id_A": "hknf7ob", "c_root_id_B": "hkn8av8", "created_at_utc_A": 1636931269, "created_at_utc_B": 1636928337, "score_A": 179, "score_B": 58, "human_ref_A": "Get documentation for everything and approach the internal medicine doctors practice for damages. It is not the surgeons fault and they should not be held responsible.", "human_ref_B": "I think you can try talking to the internal medicine doctor's office and explain how the mistake in the report lead to the procedure and see what they can do for you. It's certainly not the surgeon's fault, at least. I wouldn't say it's common though I would want to see the full copies of both reports - the one the surgeon received first and then the corrected one - before actually being able to argue any further.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 2932.0, "score_ratio": 3.0862068966, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "qtytsh", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Vet made a mistake and performed an unnecessary surgery. Seeking advice. I\u2019ll try to keep this short:  My dog had an ultrasound of his stomach and they detected a large mass. They referred me to another practice for surgery. The surgeon was reluctant to perform surgery without an endoscopy and biopsy, and I was in complete agreement. He sent me to their internal medicine department for the procedure.   The report came back and it was determined that the mass was in fact likely a benign polyp. While it was not life-threatening, it was probably causing my dog to vomit blood (which is why I brought him in to begin with) so we would go ahead and remove it surgically.   The surgeon called afterwards and informed me that he was actually not able to find ANYTHING in my dog\u2019s stomach; not a mass, not a polyp, nothing! He reached out to the internal medicine doctor who clarified that while he had indicated finding a \u201clarge mass\u201d during the endoscopy, what he actually MEANT to write in the report was \u201csmall lesion,\u201d and had the surgeon had the correct information, he would have never suggested surgery. Now the diagnosis is IBD.   Now my dog is suffering needlessly as he recovers from major surgery and no recompense has been offered for the $4000 spent on a procedure that should never have happened. To say I\u2019m livid would be the understatement of the century. I would like the perspective of a professional before I reach out to the hospital director. Should I demand my money back? Is this common?", "c_root_id_A": "hknuhlo", "c_root_id_B": "hknk16i", "created_at_utc_A": 1636938098, "created_at_utc_B": 1636933361, "score_A": 32, "score_B": 7, "human_ref_A": "I would ask for a copy of the records from your regular vet clinic because everything should have been sent there by the referral practice.  Review the records and organize your concerns before calling the referral practice.  If how you described things is accurate and complete as to what happened, I would ask for a refund of the surgery and for some of the IM fees.  It's good for them to know this so they can make whatever changes are necessary to prevent this from happening again in the future.", "human_ref_B": "I would get a lawyer if I were you to discuss this matter and your options before contacting this hospital. They will try to downplay the incident and make it go away.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 4737.0, "score_ratio": 4.5714285714, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "qtytsh", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Vet made a mistake and performed an unnecessary surgery. Seeking advice. I\u2019ll try to keep this short:  My dog had an ultrasound of his stomach and they detected a large mass. They referred me to another practice for surgery. The surgeon was reluctant to perform surgery without an endoscopy and biopsy, and I was in complete agreement. He sent me to their internal medicine department for the procedure.   The report came back and it was determined that the mass was in fact likely a benign polyp. While it was not life-threatening, it was probably causing my dog to vomit blood (which is why I brought him in to begin with) so we would go ahead and remove it surgically.   The surgeon called afterwards and informed me that he was actually not able to find ANYTHING in my dog\u2019s stomach; not a mass, not a polyp, nothing! He reached out to the internal medicine doctor who clarified that while he had indicated finding a \u201clarge mass\u201d during the endoscopy, what he actually MEANT to write in the report was \u201csmall lesion,\u201d and had the surgeon had the correct information, he would have never suggested surgery. Now the diagnosis is IBD.   Now my dog is suffering needlessly as he recovers from major surgery and no recompense has been offered for the $4000 spent on a procedure that should never have happened. To say I\u2019m livid would be the understatement of the century. I would like the perspective of a professional before I reach out to the hospital director. Should I demand my money back? Is this common?", "c_root_id_A": "hkoxnjm", "c_root_id_B": "hkpilrf", "created_at_utc_A": 1636958678, "created_at_utc_B": 1636975795, "score_A": 3, "score_B": 7, "human_ref_A": "r/legaladvice", "human_ref_B": "Talk to someone that is in charge of the practice. Ask them why the mistake was made and what do they normally do to prevent those issues happening. Unfortunately vets are only people and they do make mistakes. I feel sorry for your doggy and you and fully understand your concerns, however calm discussion with the practice manager would be probably the first step.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 17117.0, "score_ratio": 2.3333333333, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "qtytsh", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Vet made a mistake and performed an unnecessary surgery. Seeking advice. I\u2019ll try to keep this short:  My dog had an ultrasound of his stomach and they detected a large mass. They referred me to another practice for surgery. The surgeon was reluctant to perform surgery without an endoscopy and biopsy, and I was in complete agreement. He sent me to their internal medicine department for the procedure.   The report came back and it was determined that the mass was in fact likely a benign polyp. While it was not life-threatening, it was probably causing my dog to vomit blood (which is why I brought him in to begin with) so we would go ahead and remove it surgically.   The surgeon called afterwards and informed me that he was actually not able to find ANYTHING in my dog\u2019s stomach; not a mass, not a polyp, nothing! He reached out to the internal medicine doctor who clarified that while he had indicated finding a \u201clarge mass\u201d during the endoscopy, what he actually MEANT to write in the report was \u201csmall lesion,\u201d and had the surgeon had the correct information, he would have never suggested surgery. Now the diagnosis is IBD.   Now my dog is suffering needlessly as he recovers from major surgery and no recompense has been offered for the $4000 spent on a procedure that should never have happened. To say I\u2019m livid would be the understatement of the century. I would like the perspective of a professional before I reach out to the hospital director. Should I demand my money back? Is this common?", "c_root_id_A": "hkpilrf", "c_root_id_B": "hkogvb2", "created_at_utc_A": 1636975795, "created_at_utc_B": 1636948592, "score_A": 7, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "Talk to someone that is in charge of the practice. Ask them why the mistake was made and what do they normally do to prevent those issues happening. Unfortunately vets are only people and they do make mistakes. I feel sorry for your doggy and you and fully understand your concerns, however calm discussion with the practice manager would be probably the first step.", "human_ref_B": "Do you have pet insurance? They should pay for the procedure and then hound the doctor's office to get reimbursed.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 27203.0, "score_ratio": 3.5, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "qtytsh", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Vet made a mistake and performed an unnecessary surgery. Seeking advice. I\u2019ll try to keep this short:  My dog had an ultrasound of his stomach and they detected a large mass. They referred me to another practice for surgery. The surgeon was reluctant to perform surgery without an endoscopy and biopsy, and I was in complete agreement. He sent me to their internal medicine department for the procedure.   The report came back and it was determined that the mass was in fact likely a benign polyp. While it was not life-threatening, it was probably causing my dog to vomit blood (which is why I brought him in to begin with) so we would go ahead and remove it surgically.   The surgeon called afterwards and informed me that he was actually not able to find ANYTHING in my dog\u2019s stomach; not a mass, not a polyp, nothing! He reached out to the internal medicine doctor who clarified that while he had indicated finding a \u201clarge mass\u201d during the endoscopy, what he actually MEANT to write in the report was \u201csmall lesion,\u201d and had the surgeon had the correct information, he would have never suggested surgery. Now the diagnosis is IBD.   Now my dog is suffering needlessly as he recovers from major surgery and no recompense has been offered for the $4000 spent on a procedure that should never have happened. To say I\u2019m livid would be the understatement of the century. I would like the perspective of a professional before I reach out to the hospital director. Should I demand my money back? Is this common?", "c_root_id_A": "hkoxnjm", "c_root_id_B": "hkogvb2", "created_at_utc_A": 1636958678, "created_at_utc_B": 1636948592, "score_A": 3, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "r/legaladvice", "human_ref_B": "Do you have pet insurance? They should pay for the procedure and then hound the doctor's office to get reimbursed.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 10086.0, "score_ratio": 1.5, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "nntwfk", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "My cat fell over and died at my feet. Species - cat Age - 9 years old Sex/neuter status - male, neutered when he was young Breed - tabby Body weight- about 14 pounds History - only ever had one respiratory infection last year that the recieved an antibiotics shot for Clinical signs - none. He was acting completely normal. He was pooping normally, eating and drinking normally, no weight loss Duration - the death happened within 3-5 minutes Location - indiana No links to any tests  My 9 year old tabby cat was right behind me and out of the corner of my eye I saw him do a weird movement, almost like his paw slipped from under him. Then I look behind me and he is in an almost seizure like state. His body wasn't convulsing bit his limbs were all stretching out, like he was trying to pull them back to him or something. Upon picking him up within a few seconds of that happening, his body was completely limp. Within a minute or two of that, he took a few last big exhales and just died. I have no idea what happened and it is causing extreme panic and I need some sort of possible reason for what could have happened.", "c_root_id_A": "gzwjf9x", "c_root_id_B": "gzwbzb0", "created_at_utc_A": 1622318215, "created_at_utc_B": 1622314507, "score_A": 1, "score_B": -6, "human_ref_A": "I am sorry for your loss.   Per rule 7, we do not allow diagnosis guessing. As u/quartzkrystal points out, the only way to (possibly) know is to have a necropsy (animal autopsy) performed.   Please allow me to extend the condolences of the moderators and members of AskVet.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 3708.0, "score_ratio": -0.1666666667, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "nntwfk", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "My cat fell over and died at my feet. Species - cat Age - 9 years old Sex/neuter status - male, neutered when he was young Breed - tabby Body weight- about 14 pounds History - only ever had one respiratory infection last year that the recieved an antibiotics shot for Clinical signs - none. He was acting completely normal. He was pooping normally, eating and drinking normally, no weight loss Duration - the death happened within 3-5 minutes Location - indiana No links to any tests  My 9 year old tabby cat was right behind me and out of the corner of my eye I saw him do a weird movement, almost like his paw slipped from under him. Then I look behind me and he is in an almost seizure like state. His body wasn't convulsing bit his limbs were all stretching out, like he was trying to pull them back to him or something. Upon picking him up within a few seconds of that happening, his body was completely limp. Within a minute or two of that, he took a few last big exhales and just died. I have no idea what happened and it is causing extreme panic and I need some sort of possible reason for what could have happened.", "c_root_id_A": "gzwbzb0", "c_root_id_B": "gzwgrao", "created_at_utc_A": 1622314507, "created_at_utc_B": 1622316919, "score_A": -6, "score_B": 126, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "(Technician student, not a vet) I'm sorry for you loss, especially in such an unexpected and traumatic way. You can seek a necropsy if you would like to know the reason your cat passed away. You can call your local vet clinic, or it may be offered at a government agricultural/animal health office near you.   They will prefer a non-frozen body submitted as soon as possible after passing, but I personally have had a pet necropsied after being frozen for several days and the results were conclusive, so you may have some time to decide.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 2412.0, "score_ratio": -21.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "fgm2vb", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.9, "history": "Why do I feel like most of these people that post should actually take their animal to the vet. I don\u2019t know, am I taking crazy pills or something?", "c_root_id_A": "fk5ijlq", "c_root_id_B": "fk5fpzc", "created_at_utc_A": 1583881212, "created_at_utc_B": 1583879571, "score_A": 148, "score_B": 53, "human_ref_A": "I am not a Vet, but my guess is:   1. They don't have any money. They did not account for this portion of being a pet owner. Some are just new pet owners and don't truly know if they need to go. This includes trying to avoid the $$$ of an emergency clinic 2. People have an appointment and are trying not to freak out, so they are looking to understand what they are up against so they can prepare 3. People were confused, and couldn't or did not ask their vet, about a diagnosis or finding and they are seeking clarification of medical labs, pictures, etc. 4. Their pet is dying and they do not want to really accept it so they ask for a 'better' opinion that keeps their pet alive longer 5. They think they know more than the Vet they did go to, and want someone in the sub to confirm it.  The last two never happen in this sub, but I think it's new people posting one off questions.", "human_ref_B": "big same, i dont want to spook them into searching DrGoogle instead (bc you know what kind of nonsense they can find) but sometimes i want reach my hand through the internet to pull down their ears bad.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 1641.0, "score_ratio": 2.7924528302, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "fgm2vb", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.9, "history": "Why do I feel like most of these people that post should actually take their animal to the vet. I don\u2019t know, am I taking crazy pills or something?", "c_root_id_A": "fk5ijlq", "c_root_id_B": "fk5gw63", "created_at_utc_A": 1583881212, "created_at_utc_B": 1583880247, "score_A": 148, "score_B": 9, "human_ref_A": "I am not a Vet, but my guess is:   1. They don't have any money. They did not account for this portion of being a pet owner. Some are just new pet owners and don't truly know if they need to go. This includes trying to avoid the $$$ of an emergency clinic 2. People have an appointment and are trying not to freak out, so they are looking to understand what they are up against so they can prepare 3. People were confused, and couldn't or did not ask their vet, about a diagnosis or finding and they are seeking clarification of medical labs, pictures, etc. 4. Their pet is dying and they do not want to really accept it so they ask for a 'better' opinion that keeps their pet alive longer 5. They think they know more than the Vet they did go to, and want someone in the sub to confirm it.  The last two never happen in this sub, but I think it's new people posting one off questions.", "human_ref_B": "And on the same token, people love to rant and rave about how all we do here is tell people to go to the vet... Like, yes? We don't have crystal balls and if you just want random guesses, that's what Google will give you. There are also so many ways we can help but people don't see those posts apparently.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 965.0, "score_ratio": 16.4444444444, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "fgm2vb", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.9, "history": "Why do I feel like most of these people that post should actually take their animal to the vet. I don\u2019t know, am I taking crazy pills or something?", "c_root_id_A": "fk5ljch", "c_root_id_B": "fk5fpzc", "created_at_utc_A": 1583882982, "created_at_utc_B": 1583879571, "score_A": 68, "score_B": 53, "human_ref_A": "Many of us, myself included, don\u2019t live somewhere that has constant vet access. Our amazing vet had a heart attack and since it\u2019s a small remote town no one was able to replace her for the year she was off. This sub has helped me through situations where I would have normally gone straight to the vet, but there was no vet to go to at the time. And yet even though I explained that situation in my posts 90% of comments were dismissive \u201cgo to the vet\u201d comments. Obviously that\u2019s the first choice but the few helpful vets on here who actually provide good advice are a godsend for those scary situations when a vet isn\u2019t available.", "human_ref_B": "big same, i dont want to spook them into searching DrGoogle instead (bc you know what kind of nonsense they can find) but sometimes i want reach my hand through the internet to pull down their ears bad.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 3411.0, "score_ratio": 1.2830188679, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "fgm2vb", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.9, "history": "Why do I feel like most of these people that post should actually take their animal to the vet. I don\u2019t know, am I taking crazy pills or something?", "c_root_id_A": "fk5k200", "c_root_id_B": "fk5ljch", "created_at_utc_A": 1583882112, "created_at_utc_B": 1583882982, "score_A": 31, "score_B": 68, "human_ref_A": "Tbh I get it, the vet can be expensive, time consuming and very stressful for your pet so though I don\u2019t exactly agree with it, I understand if some people look for opinions before making the trip.   Seriously though if you see your pet acting strangely, just head to the vet. Even if it turns out to be nothing, a check up is always beneficial for the longevity of your furry loved ones.", "human_ref_B": "Many of us, myself included, don\u2019t live somewhere that has constant vet access. Our amazing vet had a heart attack and since it\u2019s a small remote town no one was able to replace her for the year she was off. This sub has helped me through situations where I would have normally gone straight to the vet, but there was no vet to go to at the time. And yet even though I explained that situation in my posts 90% of comments were dismissive \u201cgo to the vet\u201d comments. Obviously that\u2019s the first choice but the few helpful vets on here who actually provide good advice are a godsend for those scary situations when a vet isn\u2019t available.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 870.0, "score_ratio": 2.1935483871, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "fgm2vb", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.9, "history": "Why do I feel like most of these people that post should actually take their animal to the vet. I don\u2019t know, am I taking crazy pills or something?", "c_root_id_A": "fk5jb7s", "c_root_id_B": "fk5ljch", "created_at_utc_A": 1583881671, "created_at_utc_B": 1583882982, "score_A": 21, "score_B": 68, "human_ref_A": "If you have to ask \u201cShould I\u201d (in this case, pet care ), you probably should because you have seen something that has made you think \u201cYou should\u201d. So yes, you should take your sick animal to a vet. It\u2019s really simple. Good day.", "human_ref_B": "Many of us, myself included, don\u2019t live somewhere that has constant vet access. Our amazing vet had a heart attack and since it\u2019s a small remote town no one was able to replace her for the year she was off. This sub has helped me through situations where I would have normally gone straight to the vet, but there was no vet to go to at the time. And yet even though I explained that situation in my posts 90% of comments were dismissive \u201cgo to the vet\u201d comments. Obviously that\u2019s the first choice but the few helpful vets on here who actually provide good advice are a godsend for those scary situations when a vet isn\u2019t available.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 1311.0, "score_ratio": 3.2380952381, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "fgm2vb", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.9, "history": "Why do I feel like most of these people that post should actually take their animal to the vet. I don\u2019t know, am I taking crazy pills or something?", "c_root_id_A": "fk5ljch", "c_root_id_B": "fk5imku", "created_at_utc_A": 1583882982, "created_at_utc_B": 1583881262, "score_A": 68, "score_B": 13, "human_ref_A": "Many of us, myself included, don\u2019t live somewhere that has constant vet access. Our amazing vet had a heart attack and since it\u2019s a small remote town no one was able to replace her for the year she was off. This sub has helped me through situations where I would have normally gone straight to the vet, but there was no vet to go to at the time. And yet even though I explained that situation in my posts 90% of comments were dismissive \u201cgo to the vet\u201d comments. Obviously that\u2019s the first choice but the few helpful vets on here who actually provide good advice are a godsend for those scary situations when a vet isn\u2019t available.", "human_ref_B": "I think the problem is the lack of knowledge about veterinary medicine. People almost view it as a luxury, not a necessity for pet care. People regularly complain about going to the vet for numerous reasons that they would never complain about if it were themselves or loved ones needing medical care. We in the vet industry would definitely benefit from the right information getting out to our clients vs them getting it from google, or worse animal planet and that mountain awful vet guy. Sorry if you're on here dude but you suck and need to go back to school.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 1720.0, "score_ratio": 5.2307692308, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "fgm2vb", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.9, "history": "Why do I feel like most of these people that post should actually take their animal to the vet. I don\u2019t know, am I taking crazy pills or something?", "c_root_id_A": "fk5ljch", "c_root_id_B": "fk5gw63", "created_at_utc_A": 1583882982, "created_at_utc_B": 1583880247, "score_A": 68, "score_B": 9, "human_ref_A": "Many of us, myself included, don\u2019t live somewhere that has constant vet access. Our amazing vet had a heart attack and since it\u2019s a small remote town no one was able to replace her for the year she was off. This sub has helped me through situations where I would have normally gone straight to the vet, but there was no vet to go to at the time. And yet even though I explained that situation in my posts 90% of comments were dismissive \u201cgo to the vet\u201d comments. Obviously that\u2019s the first choice but the few helpful vets on here who actually provide good advice are a godsend for those scary situations when a vet isn\u2019t available.", "human_ref_B": "And on the same token, people love to rant and rave about how all we do here is tell people to go to the vet... Like, yes? We don't have crystal balls and if you just want random guesses, that's what Google will give you. There are also so many ways we can help but people don't see those posts apparently.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 2735.0, "score_ratio": 7.5555555556, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "fgm2vb", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.9, "history": "Why do I feel like most of these people that post should actually take their animal to the vet. I don\u2019t know, am I taking crazy pills or something?", "c_root_id_A": "fk5k200", "c_root_id_B": "fk5jb7s", "created_at_utc_A": 1583882112, "created_at_utc_B": 1583881671, "score_A": 31, "score_B": 21, "human_ref_A": "Tbh I get it, the vet can be expensive, time consuming and very stressful for your pet so though I don\u2019t exactly agree with it, I understand if some people look for opinions before making the trip.   Seriously though if you see your pet acting strangely, just head to the vet. Even if it turns out to be nothing, a check up is always beneficial for the longevity of your furry loved ones.", "human_ref_B": "If you have to ask \u201cShould I\u201d (in this case, pet care ), you probably should because you have seen something that has made you think \u201cYou should\u201d. So yes, you should take your sick animal to a vet. It\u2019s really simple. Good day.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 441.0, "score_ratio": 1.4761904762, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "fgm2vb", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.9, "history": "Why do I feel like most of these people that post should actually take their animal to the vet. I don\u2019t know, am I taking crazy pills or something?", "c_root_id_A": "fk5k200", "c_root_id_B": "fk5imku", "created_at_utc_A": 1583882112, "created_at_utc_B": 1583881262, "score_A": 31, "score_B": 13, "human_ref_A": "Tbh I get it, the vet can be expensive, time consuming and very stressful for your pet so though I don\u2019t exactly agree with it, I understand if some people look for opinions before making the trip.   Seriously though if you see your pet acting strangely, just head to the vet. Even if it turns out to be nothing, a check up is always beneficial for the longevity of your furry loved ones.", "human_ref_B": "I think the problem is the lack of knowledge about veterinary medicine. People almost view it as a luxury, not a necessity for pet care. People regularly complain about going to the vet for numerous reasons that they would never complain about if it were themselves or loved ones needing medical care. We in the vet industry would definitely benefit from the right information getting out to our clients vs them getting it from google, or worse animal planet and that mountain awful vet guy. Sorry if you're on here dude but you suck and need to go back to school.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 850.0, "score_ratio": 2.3846153846, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "fgm2vb", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.9, "history": "Why do I feel like most of these people that post should actually take their animal to the vet. I don\u2019t know, am I taking crazy pills or something?", "c_root_id_A": "fk5k200", "c_root_id_B": "fk5gw63", "created_at_utc_A": 1583882112, "created_at_utc_B": 1583880247, "score_A": 31, "score_B": 9, "human_ref_A": "Tbh I get it, the vet can be expensive, time consuming and very stressful for your pet so though I don\u2019t exactly agree with it, I understand if some people look for opinions before making the trip.   Seriously though if you see your pet acting strangely, just head to the vet. Even if it turns out to be nothing, a check up is always beneficial for the longevity of your furry loved ones.", "human_ref_B": "And on the same token, people love to rant and rave about how all we do here is tell people to go to the vet... Like, yes? We don't have crystal balls and if you just want random guesses, that's what Google will give you. There are also so many ways we can help but people don't see those posts apparently.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 1865.0, "score_ratio": 3.4444444444, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "fgm2vb", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.9, "history": "Why do I feel like most of these people that post should actually take their animal to the vet. I don\u2019t know, am I taking crazy pills or something?", "c_root_id_A": "fk5jb7s", "c_root_id_B": "fk5imku", "created_at_utc_A": 1583881671, "created_at_utc_B": 1583881262, "score_A": 21, "score_B": 13, "human_ref_A": "If you have to ask \u201cShould I\u201d (in this case, pet care ), you probably should because you have seen something that has made you think \u201cYou should\u201d. So yes, you should take your sick animal to a vet. It\u2019s really simple. Good day.", "human_ref_B": "I think the problem is the lack of knowledge about veterinary medicine. People almost view it as a luxury, not a necessity for pet care. People regularly complain about going to the vet for numerous reasons that they would never complain about if it were themselves or loved ones needing medical care. We in the vet industry would definitely benefit from the right information getting out to our clients vs them getting it from google, or worse animal planet and that mountain awful vet guy. Sorry if you're on here dude but you suck and need to go back to school.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 409.0, "score_ratio": 1.6153846154, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "fgm2vb", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.9, "history": "Why do I feel like most of these people that post should actually take their animal to the vet. I don\u2019t know, am I taking crazy pills or something?", "c_root_id_A": "fk5gw63", "c_root_id_B": "fk5jb7s", "created_at_utc_A": 1583880247, "created_at_utc_B": 1583881671, "score_A": 9, "score_B": 21, "human_ref_A": "And on the same token, people love to rant and rave about how all we do here is tell people to go to the vet... Like, yes? We don't have crystal balls and if you just want random guesses, that's what Google will give you. There are also so many ways we can help but people don't see those posts apparently.", "human_ref_B": "If you have to ask \u201cShould I\u201d (in this case, pet care ), you probably should because you have seen something that has made you think \u201cYou should\u201d. So yes, you should take your sick animal to a vet. It\u2019s really simple. Good day.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 1424.0, "score_ratio": 2.3333333333, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "fgm2vb", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.9, "history": "Why do I feel like most of these people that post should actually take their animal to the vet. I don\u2019t know, am I taking crazy pills or something?", "c_root_id_A": "fk5y71c", "c_root_id_B": "fk5nzz1", "created_at_utc_A": 1583890073, "created_at_utc_B": 1583884442, "score_A": 16, "score_B": 15, "human_ref_A": "The point of posting is to be told, by a professional, that they need to take their pet to a vet. If they knew the pet needed to see a vet they wouldn't be posting to ask now would they?   So yeah. Most of the people who post about their pet problems should be, and will be, told to go see a vet. That's the whole point.   I am just glad they have a resource like this where they can come ask a question, and hear it from an actual professional and take it seriously, because they know it's not just another opinionated yahoo on the internet, freaking out over nothing.    There really isn't any other point to the sub. They can't diagnose on the internet. They can't offer treatment options. They CAN tell you to go to the vet, and you CAN believe them because they are verified pros.   Plenty of people just dont know what to do and I am glad they come here to ask questions instead of Googling and ending up somewhere weird.", "human_ref_B": "I usually make an apointment and reach out on here until then or I ask on here after I go to the vet for second opinions/ advice from people that already went through similar things.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 5631.0, "score_ratio": 1.0666666667, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "fgm2vb", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.9, "history": "Why do I feel like most of these people that post should actually take their animal to the vet. I don\u2019t know, am I taking crazy pills or something?", "c_root_id_A": "fk5y71c", "c_root_id_B": "fk5imku", "created_at_utc_A": 1583890073, "created_at_utc_B": 1583881262, "score_A": 16, "score_B": 13, "human_ref_A": "The point of posting is to be told, by a professional, that they need to take their pet to a vet. If they knew the pet needed to see a vet they wouldn't be posting to ask now would they?   So yeah. Most of the people who post about their pet problems should be, and will be, told to go see a vet. That's the whole point.   I am just glad they have a resource like this where they can come ask a question, and hear it from an actual professional and take it seriously, because they know it's not just another opinionated yahoo on the internet, freaking out over nothing.    There really isn't any other point to the sub. They can't diagnose on the internet. They can't offer treatment options. They CAN tell you to go to the vet, and you CAN believe them because they are verified pros.   Plenty of people just dont know what to do and I am glad they come here to ask questions instead of Googling and ending up somewhere weird.", "human_ref_B": "I think the problem is the lack of knowledge about veterinary medicine. People almost view it as a luxury, not a necessity for pet care. People regularly complain about going to the vet for numerous reasons that they would never complain about if it were themselves or loved ones needing medical care. We in the vet industry would definitely benefit from the right information getting out to our clients vs them getting it from google, or worse animal planet and that mountain awful vet guy. Sorry if you're on here dude but you suck and need to go back to school.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 8811.0, "score_ratio": 1.2307692308, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "fgm2vb", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.9, "history": "Why do I feel like most of these people that post should actually take their animal to the vet. I don\u2019t know, am I taking crazy pills or something?", "c_root_id_A": "fk5y71c", "c_root_id_B": "fk5gw63", "created_at_utc_A": 1583890073, "created_at_utc_B": 1583880247, "score_A": 16, "score_B": 9, "human_ref_A": "The point of posting is to be told, by a professional, that they need to take their pet to a vet. If they knew the pet needed to see a vet they wouldn't be posting to ask now would they?   So yeah. Most of the people who post about their pet problems should be, and will be, told to go see a vet. That's the whole point.   I am just glad they have a resource like this where they can come ask a question, and hear it from an actual professional and take it seriously, because they know it's not just another opinionated yahoo on the internet, freaking out over nothing.    There really isn't any other point to the sub. They can't diagnose on the internet. They can't offer treatment options. They CAN tell you to go to the vet, and you CAN believe them because they are verified pros.   Plenty of people just dont know what to do and I am glad they come here to ask questions instead of Googling and ending up somewhere weird.", "human_ref_B": "And on the same token, people love to rant and rave about how all we do here is tell people to go to the vet... Like, yes? We don't have crystal balls and if you just want random guesses, that's what Google will give you. There are also so many ways we can help but people don't see those posts apparently.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 9826.0, "score_ratio": 1.7777777778, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "fgm2vb", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.9, "history": "Why do I feel like most of these people that post should actually take their animal to the vet. I don\u2019t know, am I taking crazy pills or something?", "c_root_id_A": "fk5mdqm", "c_root_id_B": "fk5imku", "created_at_utc_A": 1583883481, "created_at_utc_B": 1583881262, "score_A": 16, "score_B": 13, "human_ref_A": "Personally I get super annoyed at the 'my pet has a weird lump/skin patch/thing stuck on him, insert super vague description and no picture, what is it?' posts.", "human_ref_B": "I think the problem is the lack of knowledge about veterinary medicine. People almost view it as a luxury, not a necessity for pet care. People regularly complain about going to the vet for numerous reasons that they would never complain about if it were themselves or loved ones needing medical care. We in the vet industry would definitely benefit from the right information getting out to our clients vs them getting it from google, or worse animal planet and that mountain awful vet guy. Sorry if you're on here dude but you suck and need to go back to school.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 2219.0, "score_ratio": 1.2307692308, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "fgm2vb", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.9, "history": "Why do I feel like most of these people that post should actually take their animal to the vet. I don\u2019t know, am I taking crazy pills or something?", "c_root_id_A": "fk5gw63", "c_root_id_B": "fk5mdqm", "created_at_utc_A": 1583880247, "created_at_utc_B": 1583883481, "score_A": 9, "score_B": 16, "human_ref_A": "And on the same token, people love to rant and rave about how all we do here is tell people to go to the vet... Like, yes? We don't have crystal balls and if you just want random guesses, that's what Google will give you. There are also so many ways we can help but people don't see those posts apparently.", "human_ref_B": "Personally I get super annoyed at the 'my pet has a weird lump/skin patch/thing stuck on him, insert super vague description and no picture, what is it?' posts.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 3234.0, "score_ratio": 1.7777777778, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "fgm2vb", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.9, "history": "Why do I feel like most of these people that post should actually take their animal to the vet. I don\u2019t know, am I taking crazy pills or something?", "c_root_id_A": "fk5imku", "c_root_id_B": "fk5nzz1", "created_at_utc_A": 1583881262, "created_at_utc_B": 1583884442, "score_A": 13, "score_B": 15, "human_ref_A": "I think the problem is the lack of knowledge about veterinary medicine. People almost view it as a luxury, not a necessity for pet care. People regularly complain about going to the vet for numerous reasons that they would never complain about if it were themselves or loved ones needing medical care. We in the vet industry would definitely benefit from the right information getting out to our clients vs them getting it from google, or worse animal planet and that mountain awful vet guy. Sorry if you're on here dude but you suck and need to go back to school.", "human_ref_B": "I usually make an apointment and reach out on here until then or I ask on here after I go to the vet for second opinions/ advice from people that already went through similar things.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 3180.0, "score_ratio": 1.1538461538, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "fgm2vb", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.9, "history": "Why do I feel like most of these people that post should actually take their animal to the vet. I don\u2019t know, am I taking crazy pills or something?", "c_root_id_A": "fk5nzz1", "c_root_id_B": "fk5gw63", "created_at_utc_A": 1583884442, "created_at_utc_B": 1583880247, "score_A": 15, "score_B": 9, "human_ref_A": "I usually make an apointment and reach out on here until then or I ask on here after I go to the vet for second opinions/ advice from people that already went through similar things.", "human_ref_B": "And on the same token, people love to rant and rave about how all we do here is tell people to go to the vet... Like, yes? We don't have crystal balls and if you just want random guesses, that's what Google will give you. There are also so many ways we can help but people don't see those posts apparently.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 4195.0, "score_ratio": 1.6666666667, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "fgm2vb", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.9, "history": "Why do I feel like most of these people that post should actually take their animal to the vet. I don\u2019t know, am I taking crazy pills or something?", "c_root_id_A": "fk5gw63", "c_root_id_B": "fk5imku", "created_at_utc_A": 1583880247, "created_at_utc_B": 1583881262, "score_A": 9, "score_B": 13, "human_ref_A": "And on the same token, people love to rant and rave about how all we do here is tell people to go to the vet... Like, yes? We don't have crystal balls and if you just want random guesses, that's what Google will give you. There are also so many ways we can help but people don't see those posts apparently.", "human_ref_B": "I think the problem is the lack of knowledge about veterinary medicine. People almost view it as a luxury, not a necessity for pet care. People regularly complain about going to the vet for numerous reasons that they would never complain about if it were themselves or loved ones needing medical care. We in the vet industry would definitely benefit from the right information getting out to our clients vs them getting it from google, or worse animal planet and that mountain awful vet guy. Sorry if you're on here dude but you suck and need to go back to school.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 1015.0, "score_ratio": 1.4444444444, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "fgm2vb", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.9, "history": "Why do I feel like most of these people that post should actually take their animal to the vet. I don\u2019t know, am I taking crazy pills or something?", "c_root_id_A": "fk65dvd", "c_root_id_B": "fk5gw63", "created_at_utc_A": 1583894049, "created_at_utc_B": 1583880247, "score_A": 10, "score_B": 9, "human_ref_A": "Speaking from my own experiences, I posted about my sick eel because he wasn't stable enough for me to travel with him over 200 miles to another state with a fish vet. I didn't get any response and I euthanized him after his conditioned worsened.  Sometimes finding care for a fish is impossible. My daughter is becoming a fish vet, but until then I'm literally the most knowledgeable person I have to turn to outside reddit", "human_ref_B": "And on the same token, people love to rant and rave about how all we do here is tell people to go to the vet... Like, yes? We don't have crystal balls and if you just want random guesses, that's what Google will give you. There are also so many ways we can help but people don't see those posts apparently.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 13802.0, "score_ratio": 1.1111111111, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "fgm2vb", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.9, "history": "Why do I feel like most of these people that post should actually take their animal to the vet. I don\u2019t know, am I taking crazy pills or something?", "c_root_id_A": "fk65dvd", "c_root_id_B": "fk61txw", "created_at_utc_A": 1583894049, "created_at_utc_B": 1583892012, "score_A": 10, "score_B": 3, "human_ref_A": "Speaking from my own experiences, I posted about my sick eel because he wasn't stable enough for me to travel with him over 200 miles to another state with a fish vet. I didn't get any response and I euthanized him after his conditioned worsened.  Sometimes finding care for a fish is impossible. My daughter is becoming a fish vet, but until then I'm literally the most knowledgeable person I have to turn to outside reddit", "human_ref_B": "I think you also see the \"hot posts\" on the front page that get a lot of (negative) attention. If you look at the sub and sort by \"new\", it's all pretty reasonable stuff.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 2037.0, "score_ratio": 3.3333333333, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "fgm2vb", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.9, "history": "Why do I feel like most of these people that post should actually take their animal to the vet. I don\u2019t know, am I taking crazy pills or something?", "c_root_id_A": "fk67szw", "c_root_id_B": "fk61txw", "created_at_utc_A": 1583895510, "created_at_utc_B": 1583892012, "score_A": 7, "score_B": 3, "human_ref_A": "(Not a vet!) Just to add another POV, I think a lot of people get a sort of mental- fatigue/ drain with pet illnesses and vet visits. In many ways, animal medicine can be more difficult than human medicine. Pets can't always communicate problems like humans can, they can be very difficult to medicate, they'll often unknowingly fight against their treatments...  And to highlight a big issue here, research on animal medicine and health can be limited. To be clear, I'm in no way trying to blame vets at all as obviously this isn't their fault- but so many people have dished out multiple paychecks worth of money to be told in the end that the illness is fatal, or the treatment is very pricey and has a low chance of survival. Or, a common one I see, after multiple vet visits with some serious symptoms and lots of money paid no one knows what's going on. Stuff like this can be incredibly stressful, and can make as much as walking into a vet office grounds for a panic- attack for some heavier cases.   Again, I'm definitely not trying to hold vets accountable, nor am I providing reason against these visits, as ultimately I agree, a sick or hurting animal needs professional help. I just think the mental- health aspect is more prominent then it often gets credit for and wanted to bring this to the spotlight.", "human_ref_B": "I think you also see the \"hot posts\" on the front page that get a lot of (negative) attention. If you look at the sub and sort by \"new\", it's all pretty reasonable stuff.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 3498.0, "score_ratio": 2.3333333333, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "ir8bi9", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "What can I do to make my cat happier while I'm away at work? I recently started working again after about a year at home with my boy. He's always been pretty clingy. I adopted him when he was 6 months old and he shows signs that he wasn't properly weened from his mother (he likes to suck my finger and kneads more than any cat I've ever had). He's 3 years old now. When I come home, he doesn't stop meowing for at least 20 minutes with me petting and cuddling him. He's then glued to my side and freaks out if he can't find me in the home.  I'm not bothered by the extra affection, but I do feel extremely bad for leaving him for 8-9 hours a day. He has several interactive toys and scratching posts that he uses, but I don't think that I'm meeting his social needs.  What could I do to make him happier while I'm away? I think he may have separation anxiety, but I'm not sure how to address that with cats.   Any advice would be highly appreciated! Also, I want you to know that I am so grateful that this subreddit exists. I know that everyone here is taking valuable time out of their day to help strangers' animals, and I've been following this sub for a while, so I know that there are some pretty awful things posted that must wear you guys down. For what it's worth, I think that you're all amazing people doing God's work.", "c_root_id_A": "g4wsn2o", "c_root_id_B": "g4ww1q2", "created_at_utc_A": 1599896089, "created_at_utc_B": 1599899724, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 70, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "You may not be in a position to do this, but I recommend you get another cat. My two furballs entertain, play with, and love on each other, so I don't have to worry too much about them getting lonely. They chase each other around and spar, too, so they always get enough exercise.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 3635.0, "score_ratio": 70.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "ir8bi9", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "What can I do to make my cat happier while I'm away at work? I recently started working again after about a year at home with my boy. He's always been pretty clingy. I adopted him when he was 6 months old and he shows signs that he wasn't properly weened from his mother (he likes to suck my finger and kneads more than any cat I've ever had). He's 3 years old now. When I come home, he doesn't stop meowing for at least 20 minutes with me petting and cuddling him. He's then glued to my side and freaks out if he can't find me in the home.  I'm not bothered by the extra affection, but I do feel extremely bad for leaving him for 8-9 hours a day. He has several interactive toys and scratching posts that he uses, but I don't think that I'm meeting his social needs.  What could I do to make him happier while I'm away? I think he may have separation anxiety, but I'm not sure how to address that with cats.   Any advice would be highly appreciated! Also, I want you to know that I am so grateful that this subreddit exists. I know that everyone here is taking valuable time out of their day to help strangers' animals, and I've been following this sub for a while, so I know that there are some pretty awful things posted that must wear you guys down. For what it's worth, I think that you're all amazing people doing God's work.", "c_root_id_A": "g4xb2m2", "c_root_id_B": "g4xgoxb", "created_at_utc_A": 1599914955, "created_at_utc_B": 1599918919, "score_A": 42, "score_B": 64, "human_ref_A": "You should try fostering a kitten to see if your kitty would like it! Kittens are much easier to introduce than other adult cats.", "human_ref_B": "Getting another kitty is an option, but it wouldn't be the first place I start. I'm curious to know what he's doing when you're not there. Cats sleep a huge portion of the day, so I suspect he probably saves all of his awake time for when you're there and mostly sleeps when you're gone. Can you get a little nanny cam to check on his behavior while you're gone? If he's frantic when you leave or distressed in any way, then you could start considering ways to help him. If he's content to nap the day away until you get home, I would bask in the glow of how much this kitty loves you and wants to be around you!!", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 3964.0, "score_ratio": 1.5238095238, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "ir8bi9", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "What can I do to make my cat happier while I'm away at work? I recently started working again after about a year at home with my boy. He's always been pretty clingy. I adopted him when he was 6 months old and he shows signs that he wasn't properly weened from his mother (he likes to suck my finger and kneads more than any cat I've ever had). He's 3 years old now. When I come home, he doesn't stop meowing for at least 20 minutes with me petting and cuddling him. He's then glued to my side and freaks out if he can't find me in the home.  I'm not bothered by the extra affection, but I do feel extremely bad for leaving him for 8-9 hours a day. He has several interactive toys and scratching posts that he uses, but I don't think that I'm meeting his social needs.  What could I do to make him happier while I'm away? I think he may have separation anxiety, but I'm not sure how to address that with cats.   Any advice would be highly appreciated! Also, I want you to know that I am so grateful that this subreddit exists. I know that everyone here is taking valuable time out of their day to help strangers' animals, and I've been following this sub for a while, so I know that there are some pretty awful things posted that must wear you guys down. For what it's worth, I think that you're all amazing people doing God's work.", "c_root_id_A": "g4xgoxb", "c_root_id_B": "g4x340m", "created_at_utc_A": 1599918919, "created_at_utc_B": 1599907615, "score_A": 64, "score_B": 14, "human_ref_A": "Getting another kitty is an option, but it wouldn't be the first place I start. I'm curious to know what he's doing when you're not there. Cats sleep a huge portion of the day, so I suspect he probably saves all of his awake time for when you're there and mostly sleeps when you're gone. Can you get a little nanny cam to check on his behavior while you're gone? If he's frantic when you leave or distressed in any way, then you could start considering ways to help him. If he's content to nap the day away until you get home, I would bask in the glow of how much this kitty loves you and wants to be around you!!", "human_ref_B": "I have a cat with a similar disposition and one thing that legitimately has helped is leaving a pair of clothes that I\u2019ve recently worn flat out on my bed. They have my smell on them and they\u2019re always covered in his hair when I get home.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 11304.0, "score_ratio": 4.5714285714, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "ir8bi9", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "What can I do to make my cat happier while I'm away at work? I recently started working again after about a year at home with my boy. He's always been pretty clingy. I adopted him when he was 6 months old and he shows signs that he wasn't properly weened from his mother (he likes to suck my finger and kneads more than any cat I've ever had). He's 3 years old now. When I come home, he doesn't stop meowing for at least 20 minutes with me petting and cuddling him. He's then glued to my side and freaks out if he can't find me in the home.  I'm not bothered by the extra affection, but I do feel extremely bad for leaving him for 8-9 hours a day. He has several interactive toys and scratching posts that he uses, but I don't think that I'm meeting his social needs.  What could I do to make him happier while I'm away? I think he may have separation anxiety, but I'm not sure how to address that with cats.   Any advice would be highly appreciated! Also, I want you to know that I am so grateful that this subreddit exists. I know that everyone here is taking valuable time out of their day to help strangers' animals, and I've been following this sub for a while, so I know that there are some pretty awful things posted that must wear you guys down. For what it's worth, I think that you're all amazing people doing God's work.", "c_root_id_A": "g4xffei", "c_root_id_B": "g4xgoxb", "created_at_utc_A": 1599918071, "created_at_utc_B": 1599918919, "score_A": 11, "score_B": 64, "human_ref_A": "I think Fel-A-Way helped my cat tremendously with anxiety after the loss of her older sister kitty this year. Also, there are web cams that allow you to talk to kitty throughout the day. In addition, newer treat dispensers have voice recording options that can be set on a timer, so she gets to hear your voice and get a snack! Also, pet sitters are pretty good options. They can stop over for 15 mins to play and cuddle while you're gone. Best of luck!!!!", "human_ref_B": "Getting another kitty is an option, but it wouldn't be the first place I start. I'm curious to know what he's doing when you're not there. Cats sleep a huge portion of the day, so I suspect he probably saves all of his awake time for when you're there and mostly sleeps when you're gone. Can you get a little nanny cam to check on his behavior while you're gone? If he's frantic when you leave or distressed in any way, then you could start considering ways to help him. If he's content to nap the day away until you get home, I would bask in the glow of how much this kitty loves you and wants to be around you!!", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 848.0, "score_ratio": 5.8181818182, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "ir8bi9", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "What can I do to make my cat happier while I'm away at work? I recently started working again after about a year at home with my boy. He's always been pretty clingy. I adopted him when he was 6 months old and he shows signs that he wasn't properly weened from his mother (he likes to suck my finger and kneads more than any cat I've ever had). He's 3 years old now. When I come home, he doesn't stop meowing for at least 20 minutes with me petting and cuddling him. He's then glued to my side and freaks out if he can't find me in the home.  I'm not bothered by the extra affection, but I do feel extremely bad for leaving him for 8-9 hours a day. He has several interactive toys and scratching posts that he uses, but I don't think that I'm meeting his social needs.  What could I do to make him happier while I'm away? I think he may have separation anxiety, but I'm not sure how to address that with cats.   Any advice would be highly appreciated! Also, I want you to know that I am so grateful that this subreddit exists. I know that everyone here is taking valuable time out of their day to help strangers' animals, and I've been following this sub for a while, so I know that there are some pretty awful things posted that must wear you guys down. For what it's worth, I think that you're all amazing people doing God's work.", "c_root_id_A": "g4xgoxb", "c_root_id_B": "g4wsn2o", "created_at_utc_A": 1599918919, "created_at_utc_B": 1599896089, "score_A": 64, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Getting another kitty is an option, but it wouldn't be the first place I start. I'm curious to know what he's doing when you're not there. Cats sleep a huge portion of the day, so I suspect he probably saves all of his awake time for when you're there and mostly sleeps when you're gone. Can you get a little nanny cam to check on his behavior while you're gone? If he's frantic when you leave or distressed in any way, then you could start considering ways to help him. If he's content to nap the day away until you get home, I would bask in the glow of how much this kitty loves you and wants to be around you!!", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 22830.0, "score_ratio": 64.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "ir8bi9", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "What can I do to make my cat happier while I'm away at work? I recently started working again after about a year at home with my boy. He's always been pretty clingy. I adopted him when he was 6 months old and he shows signs that he wasn't properly weened from his mother (he likes to suck my finger and kneads more than any cat I've ever had). He's 3 years old now. When I come home, he doesn't stop meowing for at least 20 minutes with me petting and cuddling him. He's then glued to my side and freaks out if he can't find me in the home.  I'm not bothered by the extra affection, but I do feel extremely bad for leaving him for 8-9 hours a day. He has several interactive toys and scratching posts that he uses, but I don't think that I'm meeting his social needs.  What could I do to make him happier while I'm away? I think he may have separation anxiety, but I'm not sure how to address that with cats.   Any advice would be highly appreciated! Also, I want you to know that I am so grateful that this subreddit exists. I know that everyone here is taking valuable time out of their day to help strangers' animals, and I've been following this sub for a while, so I know that there are some pretty awful things posted that must wear you guys down. For what it's worth, I think that you're all amazing people doing God's work.", "c_root_id_A": "g4xb2m2", "c_root_id_B": "g4x340m", "created_at_utc_A": 1599914955, "created_at_utc_B": 1599907615, "score_A": 42, "score_B": 14, "human_ref_A": "You should try fostering a kitten to see if your kitty would like it! Kittens are much easier to introduce than other adult cats.", "human_ref_B": "I have a cat with a similar disposition and one thing that legitimately has helped is leaving a pair of clothes that I\u2019ve recently worn flat out on my bed. They have my smell on them and they\u2019re always covered in his hair when I get home.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 7340.0, "score_ratio": 3.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "ir8bi9", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "What can I do to make my cat happier while I'm away at work? I recently started working again after about a year at home with my boy. He's always been pretty clingy. I adopted him when he was 6 months old and he shows signs that he wasn't properly weened from his mother (he likes to suck my finger and kneads more than any cat I've ever had). He's 3 years old now. When I come home, he doesn't stop meowing for at least 20 minutes with me petting and cuddling him. He's then glued to my side and freaks out if he can't find me in the home.  I'm not bothered by the extra affection, but I do feel extremely bad for leaving him for 8-9 hours a day. He has several interactive toys and scratching posts that he uses, but I don't think that I'm meeting his social needs.  What could I do to make him happier while I'm away? I think he may have separation anxiety, but I'm not sure how to address that with cats.   Any advice would be highly appreciated! Also, I want you to know that I am so grateful that this subreddit exists. I know that everyone here is taking valuable time out of their day to help strangers' animals, and I've been following this sub for a while, so I know that there are some pretty awful things posted that must wear you guys down. For what it's worth, I think that you're all amazing people doing God's work.", "c_root_id_A": "g4wsn2o", "c_root_id_B": "g4xb2m2", "created_at_utc_A": 1599896089, "created_at_utc_B": 1599914955, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 42, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "You should try fostering a kitten to see if your kitty would like it! Kittens are much easier to introduce than other adult cats.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 18866.0, "score_ratio": 42.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "ir8bi9", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "What can I do to make my cat happier while I'm away at work? I recently started working again after about a year at home with my boy. He's always been pretty clingy. I adopted him when he was 6 months old and he shows signs that he wasn't properly weened from his mother (he likes to suck my finger and kneads more than any cat I've ever had). He's 3 years old now. When I come home, he doesn't stop meowing for at least 20 minutes with me petting and cuddling him. He's then glued to my side and freaks out if he can't find me in the home.  I'm not bothered by the extra affection, but I do feel extremely bad for leaving him for 8-9 hours a day. He has several interactive toys and scratching posts that he uses, but I don't think that I'm meeting his social needs.  What could I do to make him happier while I'm away? I think he may have separation anxiety, but I'm not sure how to address that with cats.   Any advice would be highly appreciated! Also, I want you to know that I am so grateful that this subreddit exists. I know that everyone here is taking valuable time out of their day to help strangers' animals, and I've been following this sub for a while, so I know that there are some pretty awful things posted that must wear you guys down. For what it's worth, I think that you're all amazing people doing God's work.", "c_root_id_A": "g4wsn2o", "c_root_id_B": "g4x340m", "created_at_utc_A": 1599896089, "created_at_utc_B": 1599907615, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 14, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "I have a cat with a similar disposition and one thing that legitimately has helped is leaving a pair of clothes that I\u2019ve recently worn flat out on my bed. They have my smell on them and they\u2019re always covered in his hair when I get home.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 11526.0, "score_ratio": 14.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "ir8bi9", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "What can I do to make my cat happier while I'm away at work? I recently started working again after about a year at home with my boy. He's always been pretty clingy. I adopted him when he was 6 months old and he shows signs that he wasn't properly weened from his mother (he likes to suck my finger and kneads more than any cat I've ever had). He's 3 years old now. When I come home, he doesn't stop meowing for at least 20 minutes with me petting and cuddling him. He's then glued to my side and freaks out if he can't find me in the home.  I'm not bothered by the extra affection, but I do feel extremely bad for leaving him for 8-9 hours a day. He has several interactive toys and scratching posts that he uses, but I don't think that I'm meeting his social needs.  What could I do to make him happier while I'm away? I think he may have separation anxiety, but I'm not sure how to address that with cats.   Any advice would be highly appreciated! Also, I want you to know that I am so grateful that this subreddit exists. I know that everyone here is taking valuable time out of their day to help strangers' animals, and I've been following this sub for a while, so I know that there are some pretty awful things posted that must wear you guys down. For what it's worth, I think that you're all amazing people doing God's work.", "c_root_id_A": "g4xffei", "c_root_id_B": "g4wsn2o", "created_at_utc_A": 1599918071, "created_at_utc_B": 1599896089, "score_A": 11, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I think Fel-A-Way helped my cat tremendously with anxiety after the loss of her older sister kitty this year. Also, there are web cams that allow you to talk to kitty throughout the day. In addition, newer treat dispensers have voice recording options that can be set on a timer, so she gets to hear your voice and get a snack! Also, pet sitters are pretty good options. They can stop over for 15 mins to play and cuddle while you're gone. Best of luck!!!!", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 21982.0, "score_ratio": 11.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "ir8bi9", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "What can I do to make my cat happier while I'm away at work? I recently started working again after about a year at home with my boy. He's always been pretty clingy. I adopted him when he was 6 months old and he shows signs that he wasn't properly weened from his mother (he likes to suck my finger and kneads more than any cat I've ever had). He's 3 years old now. When I come home, he doesn't stop meowing for at least 20 minutes with me petting and cuddling him. He's then glued to my side and freaks out if he can't find me in the home.  I'm not bothered by the extra affection, but I do feel extremely bad for leaving him for 8-9 hours a day. He has several interactive toys and scratching posts that he uses, but I don't think that I'm meeting his social needs.  What could I do to make him happier while I'm away? I think he may have separation anxiety, but I'm not sure how to address that with cats.   Any advice would be highly appreciated! Also, I want you to know that I am so grateful that this subreddit exists. I know that everyone here is taking valuable time out of their day to help strangers' animals, and I've been following this sub for a while, so I know that there are some pretty awful things posted that must wear you guys down. For what it's worth, I think that you're all amazing people doing God's work.", "c_root_id_A": "g4xrgpy", "c_root_id_B": "g4y7uyq", "created_at_utc_A": 1599924463, "created_at_utc_B": 1599931488, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 3, "human_ref_A": "Feliway diffuser, ssri, another cat", "human_ref_B": "Rotate his toys every few days. They get used to/bored of stuff just like we do.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 7025.0, "score_ratio": 1.5, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "ir8bi9", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "What can I do to make my cat happier while I'm away at work? I recently started working again after about a year at home with my boy. He's always been pretty clingy. I adopted him when he was 6 months old and he shows signs that he wasn't properly weened from his mother (he likes to suck my finger and kneads more than any cat I've ever had). He's 3 years old now. When I come home, he doesn't stop meowing for at least 20 minutes with me petting and cuddling him. He's then glued to my side and freaks out if he can't find me in the home.  I'm not bothered by the extra affection, but I do feel extremely bad for leaving him for 8-9 hours a day. He has several interactive toys and scratching posts that he uses, but I don't think that I'm meeting his social needs.  What could I do to make him happier while I'm away? I think he may have separation anxiety, but I'm not sure how to address that with cats.   Any advice would be highly appreciated! Also, I want you to know that I am so grateful that this subreddit exists. I know that everyone here is taking valuable time out of their day to help strangers' animals, and I've been following this sub for a while, so I know that there are some pretty awful things posted that must wear you guys down. For what it's worth, I think that you're all amazing people doing God's work.", "c_root_id_A": "g4y7uyq", "c_root_id_B": "g4wsn2o", "created_at_utc_A": 1599931488, "created_at_utc_B": 1599896089, "score_A": 3, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Rotate his toys every few days. They get used to/bored of stuff just like we do.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 35399.0, "score_ratio": 3.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "ir8bi9", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "What can I do to make my cat happier while I'm away at work? I recently started working again after about a year at home with my boy. He's always been pretty clingy. I adopted him when he was 6 months old and he shows signs that he wasn't properly weened from his mother (he likes to suck my finger and kneads more than any cat I've ever had). He's 3 years old now. When I come home, he doesn't stop meowing for at least 20 minutes with me petting and cuddling him. He's then glued to my side and freaks out if he can't find me in the home.  I'm not bothered by the extra affection, but I do feel extremely bad for leaving him for 8-9 hours a day. He has several interactive toys and scratching posts that he uses, but I don't think that I'm meeting his social needs.  What could I do to make him happier while I'm away? I think he may have separation anxiety, but I'm not sure how to address that with cats.   Any advice would be highly appreciated! Also, I want you to know that I am so grateful that this subreddit exists. I know that everyone here is taking valuable time out of their day to help strangers' animals, and I've been following this sub for a while, so I know that there are some pretty awful things posted that must wear you guys down. For what it's worth, I think that you're all amazing people doing God's work.", "c_root_id_A": "g4xj44z", "c_root_id_B": "g4y7uyq", "created_at_utc_A": 1599920473, "created_at_utc_B": 1599931488, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 3, "human_ref_A": "Many pet store sell pheromone sprays or diffusers, often a good choice for stressed or anxious cats.  If you leaving the house for work stresses your cat out, a pheromone diffuser may help.", "human_ref_B": "Rotate his toys every few days. They get used to/bored of stuff just like we do.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 11015.0, "score_ratio": 3.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "ir8bi9", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "What can I do to make my cat happier while I'm away at work? I recently started working again after about a year at home with my boy. He's always been pretty clingy. I adopted him when he was 6 months old and he shows signs that he wasn't properly weened from his mother (he likes to suck my finger and kneads more than any cat I've ever had). He's 3 years old now. When I come home, he doesn't stop meowing for at least 20 minutes with me petting and cuddling him. He's then glued to my side and freaks out if he can't find me in the home.  I'm not bothered by the extra affection, but I do feel extremely bad for leaving him for 8-9 hours a day. He has several interactive toys and scratching posts that he uses, but I don't think that I'm meeting his social needs.  What could I do to make him happier while I'm away? I think he may have separation anxiety, but I'm not sure how to address that with cats.   Any advice would be highly appreciated! Also, I want you to know that I am so grateful that this subreddit exists. I know that everyone here is taking valuable time out of their day to help strangers' animals, and I've been following this sub for a while, so I know that there are some pretty awful things posted that must wear you guys down. For what it's worth, I think that you're all amazing people doing God's work.", "c_root_id_A": "g4y5t92", "c_root_id_B": "g4y7uyq", "created_at_utc_A": 1599930617, "created_at_utc_B": 1599931488, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 3, "human_ref_A": "Get a pet cam and keep talking to him whenever you get time. Over time they\u2019ll realize that you aren\u2019t gone gone!", "human_ref_B": "Rotate his toys every few days. They get used to/bored of stuff just like we do.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 871.0, "score_ratio": 3.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "ir8bi9", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "What can I do to make my cat happier while I'm away at work? I recently started working again after about a year at home with my boy. He's always been pretty clingy. I adopted him when he was 6 months old and he shows signs that he wasn't properly weened from his mother (he likes to suck my finger and kneads more than any cat I've ever had). He's 3 years old now. When I come home, he doesn't stop meowing for at least 20 minutes with me petting and cuddling him. He's then glued to my side and freaks out if he can't find me in the home.  I'm not bothered by the extra affection, but I do feel extremely bad for leaving him for 8-9 hours a day. He has several interactive toys and scratching posts that he uses, but I don't think that I'm meeting his social needs.  What could I do to make him happier while I'm away? I think he may have separation anxiety, but I'm not sure how to address that with cats.   Any advice would be highly appreciated! Also, I want you to know that I am so grateful that this subreddit exists. I know that everyone here is taking valuable time out of their day to help strangers' animals, and I've been following this sub for a while, so I know that there are some pretty awful things posted that must wear you guys down. For what it's worth, I think that you're all amazing people doing God's work.", "c_root_id_A": "g4wsn2o", "c_root_id_B": "g4xrgpy", "created_at_utc_A": 1599896089, "created_at_utc_B": 1599924463, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Feliway diffuser, ssri, another cat", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 28374.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "ir8bi9", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "What can I do to make my cat happier while I'm away at work? I recently started working again after about a year at home with my boy. He's always been pretty clingy. I adopted him when he was 6 months old and he shows signs that he wasn't properly weened from his mother (he likes to suck my finger and kneads more than any cat I've ever had). He's 3 years old now. When I come home, he doesn't stop meowing for at least 20 minutes with me petting and cuddling him. He's then glued to my side and freaks out if he can't find me in the home.  I'm not bothered by the extra affection, but I do feel extremely bad for leaving him for 8-9 hours a day. He has several interactive toys and scratching posts that he uses, but I don't think that I'm meeting his social needs.  What could I do to make him happier while I'm away? I think he may have separation anxiety, but I'm not sure how to address that with cats.   Any advice would be highly appreciated! Also, I want you to know that I am so grateful that this subreddit exists. I know that everyone here is taking valuable time out of their day to help strangers' animals, and I've been following this sub for a while, so I know that there are some pretty awful things posted that must wear you guys down. For what it's worth, I think that you're all amazing people doing God's work.", "c_root_id_A": "g4xrgpy", "c_root_id_B": "g4xj44z", "created_at_utc_A": 1599924463, "created_at_utc_B": 1599920473, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Feliway diffuser, ssri, another cat", "human_ref_B": "Many pet store sell pheromone sprays or diffusers, often a good choice for stressed or anxious cats.  If you leaving the house for work stresses your cat out, a pheromone diffuser may help.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 3990.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "ir8bi9", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "What can I do to make my cat happier while I'm away at work? I recently started working again after about a year at home with my boy. He's always been pretty clingy. I adopted him when he was 6 months old and he shows signs that he wasn't properly weened from his mother (he likes to suck my finger and kneads more than any cat I've ever had). He's 3 years old now. When I come home, he doesn't stop meowing for at least 20 minutes with me petting and cuddling him. He's then glued to my side and freaks out if he can't find me in the home.  I'm not bothered by the extra affection, but I do feel extremely bad for leaving him for 8-9 hours a day. He has several interactive toys and scratching posts that he uses, but I don't think that I'm meeting his social needs.  What could I do to make him happier while I'm away? I think he may have separation anxiety, but I'm not sure how to address that with cats.   Any advice would be highly appreciated! Also, I want you to know that I am so grateful that this subreddit exists. I know that everyone here is taking valuable time out of their day to help strangers' animals, and I've been following this sub for a while, so I know that there are some pretty awful things posted that must wear you guys down. For what it's worth, I think that you're all amazing people doing God's work.", "c_root_id_A": "g4zbhui", "c_root_id_B": "g4wsn2o", "created_at_utc_A": 1599945130, "created_at_utc_B": 1599896089, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I took in a street cat about a year ago. When i'd go to college or to meet friends, she'd be in the balcony w her food and water bowl in a cardboard box home i made for her.  (im an only child w both parents working so no one stays home) she loves my attention but she would just sleep in the sun all day long and sleep w me at night.   Our situations may be different, but my point is cats are independent creatures, they love the attention but sometimes they're okay alone.  One of the comments here said to keep a nanny cam, to check on the cat's behavior for a while. I agree with them. i know it can be very stressful to worry about our furballs while at work or college, but just monitor the behavior, maybe he just meows for a while then sleeps. they love to sleep.   Though to interest the cat more, you could try making a few cardboard boxes, like just make a house kind of thing with a few blankets on the bottom, there are many videos on yt for the same. you'll just need some duck tape, maybe a glue gun and a few cardboard boxes. boxes are always fun and engages them for a long time.   ps sometimes a simple leaf is more interesting than an expensive running mouse \ud83e\udd26\ud83c\udffb\u200d\u2640\ufe0f cats are weird.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 49041.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "ir8bi9", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "What can I do to make my cat happier while I'm away at work? I recently started working again after about a year at home with my boy. He's always been pretty clingy. I adopted him when he was 6 months old and he shows signs that he wasn't properly weened from his mother (he likes to suck my finger and kneads more than any cat I've ever had). He's 3 years old now. When I come home, he doesn't stop meowing for at least 20 minutes with me petting and cuddling him. He's then glued to my side and freaks out if he can't find me in the home.  I'm not bothered by the extra affection, but I do feel extremely bad for leaving him for 8-9 hours a day. He has several interactive toys and scratching posts that he uses, but I don't think that I'm meeting his social needs.  What could I do to make him happier while I'm away? I think he may have separation anxiety, but I'm not sure how to address that with cats.   Any advice would be highly appreciated! Also, I want you to know that I am so grateful that this subreddit exists. I know that everyone here is taking valuable time out of their day to help strangers' animals, and I've been following this sub for a while, so I know that there are some pretty awful things posted that must wear you guys down. For what it's worth, I think that you're all amazing people doing God's work.", "c_root_id_A": "g4zbhui", "c_root_id_B": "g4xj44z", "created_at_utc_A": 1599945130, "created_at_utc_B": 1599920473, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I took in a street cat about a year ago. When i'd go to college or to meet friends, she'd be in the balcony w her food and water bowl in a cardboard box home i made for her.  (im an only child w both parents working so no one stays home) she loves my attention but she would just sleep in the sun all day long and sleep w me at night.   Our situations may be different, but my point is cats are independent creatures, they love the attention but sometimes they're okay alone.  One of the comments here said to keep a nanny cam, to check on the cat's behavior for a while. I agree with them. i know it can be very stressful to worry about our furballs while at work or college, but just monitor the behavior, maybe he just meows for a while then sleeps. they love to sleep.   Though to interest the cat more, you could try making a few cardboard boxes, like just make a house kind of thing with a few blankets on the bottom, there are many videos on yt for the same. you'll just need some duck tape, maybe a glue gun and a few cardboard boxes. boxes are always fun and engages them for a long time.   ps sometimes a simple leaf is more interesting than an expensive running mouse \ud83e\udd26\ud83c\udffb\u200d\u2640\ufe0f cats are weird.", "human_ref_B": "Many pet store sell pheromone sprays or diffusers, often a good choice for stressed or anxious cats.  If you leaving the house for work stresses your cat out, a pheromone diffuser may help.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 24657.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "ir8bi9", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "What can I do to make my cat happier while I'm away at work? I recently started working again after about a year at home with my boy. He's always been pretty clingy. I adopted him when he was 6 months old and he shows signs that he wasn't properly weened from his mother (he likes to suck my finger and kneads more than any cat I've ever had). He's 3 years old now. When I come home, he doesn't stop meowing for at least 20 minutes with me petting and cuddling him. He's then glued to my side and freaks out if he can't find me in the home.  I'm not bothered by the extra affection, but I do feel extremely bad for leaving him for 8-9 hours a day. He has several interactive toys and scratching posts that he uses, but I don't think that I'm meeting his social needs.  What could I do to make him happier while I'm away? I think he may have separation anxiety, but I'm not sure how to address that with cats.   Any advice would be highly appreciated! Also, I want you to know that I am so grateful that this subreddit exists. I know that everyone here is taking valuable time out of their day to help strangers' animals, and I've been following this sub for a while, so I know that there are some pretty awful things posted that must wear you guys down. For what it's worth, I think that you're all amazing people doing God's work.", "c_root_id_A": "g4y5t92", "c_root_id_B": "g4zbhui", "created_at_utc_A": 1599930617, "created_at_utc_B": 1599945130, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "Get a pet cam and keep talking to him whenever you get time. Over time they\u2019ll realize that you aren\u2019t gone gone!", "human_ref_B": "I took in a street cat about a year ago. When i'd go to college or to meet friends, she'd be in the balcony w her food and water bowl in a cardboard box home i made for her.  (im an only child w both parents working so no one stays home) she loves my attention but she would just sleep in the sun all day long and sleep w me at night.   Our situations may be different, but my point is cats are independent creatures, they love the attention but sometimes they're okay alone.  One of the comments here said to keep a nanny cam, to check on the cat's behavior for a while. I agree with them. i know it can be very stressful to worry about our furballs while at work or college, but just monitor the behavior, maybe he just meows for a while then sleeps. they love to sleep.   Though to interest the cat more, you could try making a few cardboard boxes, like just make a house kind of thing with a few blankets on the bottom, there are many videos on yt for the same. you'll just need some duck tape, maybe a glue gun and a few cardboard boxes. boxes are always fun and engages them for a long time.   ps sometimes a simple leaf is more interesting than an expensive running mouse \ud83e\udd26\ud83c\udffb\u200d\u2640\ufe0f cats are weird.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 14513.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "ir8bi9", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "What can I do to make my cat happier while I'm away at work? I recently started working again after about a year at home with my boy. He's always been pretty clingy. I adopted him when he was 6 months old and he shows signs that he wasn't properly weened from his mother (he likes to suck my finger and kneads more than any cat I've ever had). He's 3 years old now. When I come home, he doesn't stop meowing for at least 20 minutes with me petting and cuddling him. He's then glued to my side and freaks out if he can't find me in the home.  I'm not bothered by the extra affection, but I do feel extremely bad for leaving him for 8-9 hours a day. He has several interactive toys and scratching posts that he uses, but I don't think that I'm meeting his social needs.  What could I do to make him happier while I'm away? I think he may have separation anxiety, but I'm not sure how to address that with cats.   Any advice would be highly appreciated! Also, I want you to know that I am so grateful that this subreddit exists. I know that everyone here is taking valuable time out of their day to help strangers' animals, and I've been following this sub for a while, so I know that there are some pretty awful things posted that must wear you guys down. For what it's worth, I think that you're all amazing people doing God's work.", "c_root_id_A": "g4yvxpx", "c_root_id_B": "g4zbhui", "created_at_utc_A": 1599940116, "created_at_utc_B": 1599945130, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "They have pet cameras that can dispense treats !   https://shopus.furbo.com/products/furbo-dog-camera   More marketed to dogs though", "human_ref_B": "I took in a street cat about a year ago. When i'd go to college or to meet friends, she'd be in the balcony w her food and water bowl in a cardboard box home i made for her.  (im an only child w both parents working so no one stays home) she loves my attention but she would just sleep in the sun all day long and sleep w me at night.   Our situations may be different, but my point is cats are independent creatures, they love the attention but sometimes they're okay alone.  One of the comments here said to keep a nanny cam, to check on the cat's behavior for a while. I agree with them. i know it can be very stressful to worry about our furballs while at work or college, but just monitor the behavior, maybe he just meows for a while then sleeps. they love to sleep.   Though to interest the cat more, you could try making a few cardboard boxes, like just make a house kind of thing with a few blankets on the bottom, there are many videos on yt for the same. you'll just need some duck tape, maybe a glue gun and a few cardboard boxes. boxes are always fun and engages them for a long time.   ps sometimes a simple leaf is more interesting than an expensive running mouse \ud83e\udd26\ud83c\udffb\u200d\u2640\ufe0f cats are weird.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 5014.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "ir8bi9", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "What can I do to make my cat happier while I'm away at work? I recently started working again after about a year at home with my boy. He's always been pretty clingy. I adopted him when he was 6 months old and he shows signs that he wasn't properly weened from his mother (he likes to suck my finger and kneads more than any cat I've ever had). He's 3 years old now. When I come home, he doesn't stop meowing for at least 20 minutes with me petting and cuddling him. He's then glued to my side and freaks out if he can't find me in the home.  I'm not bothered by the extra affection, but I do feel extremely bad for leaving him for 8-9 hours a day. He has several interactive toys and scratching posts that he uses, but I don't think that I'm meeting his social needs.  What could I do to make him happier while I'm away? I think he may have separation anxiety, but I'm not sure how to address that with cats.   Any advice would be highly appreciated! Also, I want you to know that I am so grateful that this subreddit exists. I know that everyone here is taking valuable time out of their day to help strangers' animals, and I've been following this sub for a while, so I know that there are some pretty awful things posted that must wear you guys down. For what it's worth, I think that you're all amazing people doing God's work.", "c_root_id_A": "g50lam3", "c_root_id_B": "g4wsn2o", "created_at_utc_A": 1599960219, "created_at_utc_B": 1599896089, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "OSU's Vet School has a program called the Indoor Pet Initiative. It has great explanations about anxiety and boredom in cats as well as ways to help.   https://indoorpet.osu.edu/cats  This website is the basic start page with lots of links.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 64130.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "ir8bi9", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "What can I do to make my cat happier while I'm away at work? I recently started working again after about a year at home with my boy. He's always been pretty clingy. I adopted him when he was 6 months old and he shows signs that he wasn't properly weened from his mother (he likes to suck my finger and kneads more than any cat I've ever had). He's 3 years old now. When I come home, he doesn't stop meowing for at least 20 minutes with me petting and cuddling him. He's then glued to my side and freaks out if he can't find me in the home.  I'm not bothered by the extra affection, but I do feel extremely bad for leaving him for 8-9 hours a day. He has several interactive toys and scratching posts that he uses, but I don't think that I'm meeting his social needs.  What could I do to make him happier while I'm away? I think he may have separation anxiety, but I'm not sure how to address that with cats.   Any advice would be highly appreciated! Also, I want you to know that I am so grateful that this subreddit exists. I know that everyone here is taking valuable time out of their day to help strangers' animals, and I've been following this sub for a while, so I know that there are some pretty awful things posted that must wear you guys down. For what it's worth, I think that you're all amazing people doing God's work.", "c_root_id_A": "g50lam3", "c_root_id_B": "g4xj44z", "created_at_utc_A": 1599960219, "created_at_utc_B": 1599920473, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "OSU's Vet School has a program called the Indoor Pet Initiative. It has great explanations about anxiety and boredom in cats as well as ways to help.   https://indoorpet.osu.edu/cats  This website is the basic start page with lots of links.", "human_ref_B": "Many pet store sell pheromone sprays or diffusers, often a good choice for stressed or anxious cats.  If you leaving the house for work stresses your cat out, a pheromone diffuser may help.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 39746.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "ir8bi9", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "What can I do to make my cat happier while I'm away at work? I recently started working again after about a year at home with my boy. He's always been pretty clingy. I adopted him when he was 6 months old and he shows signs that he wasn't properly weened from his mother (he likes to suck my finger and kneads more than any cat I've ever had). He's 3 years old now. When I come home, he doesn't stop meowing for at least 20 minutes with me petting and cuddling him. He's then glued to my side and freaks out if he can't find me in the home.  I'm not bothered by the extra affection, but I do feel extremely bad for leaving him for 8-9 hours a day. He has several interactive toys and scratching posts that he uses, but I don't think that I'm meeting his social needs.  What could I do to make him happier while I'm away? I think he may have separation anxiety, but I'm not sure how to address that with cats.   Any advice would be highly appreciated! Also, I want you to know that I am so grateful that this subreddit exists. I know that everyone here is taking valuable time out of their day to help strangers' animals, and I've been following this sub for a while, so I know that there are some pretty awful things posted that must wear you guys down. For what it's worth, I think that you're all amazing people doing God's work.", "c_root_id_A": "g4y5t92", "c_root_id_B": "g50lam3", "created_at_utc_A": 1599930617, "created_at_utc_B": 1599960219, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "Get a pet cam and keep talking to him whenever you get time. Over time they\u2019ll realize that you aren\u2019t gone gone!", "human_ref_B": "OSU's Vet School has a program called the Indoor Pet Initiative. It has great explanations about anxiety and boredom in cats as well as ways to help.   https://indoorpet.osu.edu/cats  This website is the basic start page with lots of links.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 29602.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "ir8bi9", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "What can I do to make my cat happier while I'm away at work? I recently started working again after about a year at home with my boy. He's always been pretty clingy. I adopted him when he was 6 months old and he shows signs that he wasn't properly weened from his mother (he likes to suck my finger and kneads more than any cat I've ever had). He's 3 years old now. When I come home, he doesn't stop meowing for at least 20 minutes with me petting and cuddling him. He's then glued to my side and freaks out if he can't find me in the home.  I'm not bothered by the extra affection, but I do feel extremely bad for leaving him for 8-9 hours a day. He has several interactive toys and scratching posts that he uses, but I don't think that I'm meeting his social needs.  What could I do to make him happier while I'm away? I think he may have separation anxiety, but I'm not sure how to address that with cats.   Any advice would be highly appreciated! Also, I want you to know that I am so grateful that this subreddit exists. I know that everyone here is taking valuable time out of their day to help strangers' animals, and I've been following this sub for a while, so I know that there are some pretty awful things posted that must wear you guys down. For what it's worth, I think that you're all amazing people doing God's work.", "c_root_id_A": "g50lam3", "c_root_id_B": "g4yvxpx", "created_at_utc_A": 1599960219, "created_at_utc_B": 1599940116, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "OSU's Vet School has a program called the Indoor Pet Initiative. It has great explanations about anxiety and boredom in cats as well as ways to help.   https://indoorpet.osu.edu/cats  This website is the basic start page with lots of links.", "human_ref_B": "They have pet cameras that can dispense treats !   https://shopus.furbo.com/products/furbo-dog-camera   More marketed to dogs though", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 20103.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "rfsx5x", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "Shih tzu died during dental cleaning. My 14 month old, healthy, shih tzu died during a routine dental cleaning today. How often does this happen and what are the usual causes? I was told her heart stopped beating twice, after the second time she could not be revived. Thank you.", "c_root_id_A": "hofvhmp", "c_root_id_B": "hogbq0q", "created_at_utc_A": 1639436926, "created_at_utc_B": 1639444657, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 166, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "My heart breaks for you, I adore those little guys.  Without a necropsy, no one can answer **exactly why** she passed away. Since you asked how frequently this happens, it is very very uncommon, 0.05% in healthy dogs.   This covers everything you never wanted to know about anesthetic death. It is a 10 year old publication but covers the most common issues.  I am so, so sorry. I hope this doesn\u2019t deter you from getting appropriate dental care for your dogs in the future because it is very important, especially little guys like Shih Tzu\u2019s. I\u2019m so sorry you were one of the unlucky ones. Please know she did not suffer and your veterinary team is heartbroken as well. \ud83d\udc97", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 7731.0, "score_ratio": 166.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "rfsx5x", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "Shih tzu died during dental cleaning. My 14 month old, healthy, shih tzu died during a routine dental cleaning today. How often does this happen and what are the usual causes? I was told her heart stopped beating twice, after the second time she could not be revived. Thank you.", "c_root_id_A": "hofvhmp", "c_root_id_B": "hog1w30", "created_at_utc_A": 1639436926, "created_at_utc_B": 1639439719, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 106, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Many things can cause this, while it doesn't happen often I will say that sudden death under anesthesia is probably more common in veterinary medicine for a variety of reasons. From lack of regulation leading to variable standards of care, to our lesser ability to know what's going on with our patients (they can't talk etc). Even if your veterinarian did do preanesthetic bloodwork and a full physical which is standard of care, it's still possible your pet had an underlying condition which was undetected through no fault of the doctor. It's impossible for us to say without knowing more.   You could discuss a necropsy with your veterinarian as someone else mentioned (time sensitive & you may or may not get an answer). I would absolutely ask to meet/zoom with them to discuss what happened in more detail so you can get some closure. It's totally normal to have questions and want to discuss this further. I'm very sorry for your loss.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 2793.0, "score_ratio": 106.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "rfsx5x", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "Shih tzu died during dental cleaning. My 14 month old, healthy, shih tzu died during a routine dental cleaning today. How often does this happen and what are the usual causes? I was told her heart stopped beating twice, after the second time she could not be revived. Thank you.", "c_root_id_A": "hofzdvf", "c_root_id_B": "hofvhmp", "created_at_utc_A": 1639438614, "created_at_utc_B": 1639436926, "score_A": 48, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Did the vet do blood work before they put her under anesthesia?", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 1688.0, "score_ratio": 48.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "rfsx5x", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "Shih tzu died during dental cleaning. My 14 month old, healthy, shih tzu died during a routine dental cleaning today. How often does this happen and what are the usual causes? I was told her heart stopped beating twice, after the second time she could not be revived. Thank you.", "c_root_id_A": "hog0nuz", "c_root_id_B": "hofvhmp", "created_at_utc_A": 1639439175, "created_at_utc_B": 1639436926, "score_A": 20, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "There are lots of reasons...from malpractice to a body reaction. If something of this type of thing happens and there aren't any independent organisms that perform an investigation in the veterinary clinci, the owner has the right to ask for a necropsy. Normally this can be done in veterinary medicine schools for example.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 2249.0, "score_ratio": 20.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "rfsx5x", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "Shih tzu died during dental cleaning. My 14 month old, healthy, shih tzu died during a routine dental cleaning today. How often does this happen and what are the usual causes? I was told her heart stopped beating twice, after the second time she could not be revived. Thank you.", "c_root_id_A": "hogbq0q", "c_root_id_B": "hog1w30", "created_at_utc_A": 1639444657, "created_at_utc_B": 1639439719, "score_A": 166, "score_B": 106, "human_ref_A": "My heart breaks for you, I adore those little guys.  Without a necropsy, no one can answer **exactly why** she passed away. Since you asked how frequently this happens, it is very very uncommon, 0.05% in healthy dogs.   This covers everything you never wanted to know about anesthetic death. It is a 10 year old publication but covers the most common issues.  I am so, so sorry. I hope this doesn\u2019t deter you from getting appropriate dental care for your dogs in the future because it is very important, especially little guys like Shih Tzu\u2019s. I\u2019m so sorry you were one of the unlucky ones. Please know she did not suffer and your veterinary team is heartbroken as well. \ud83d\udc97", "human_ref_B": "Many things can cause this, while it doesn't happen often I will say that sudden death under anesthesia is probably more common in veterinary medicine for a variety of reasons. From lack of regulation leading to variable standards of care, to our lesser ability to know what's going on with our patients (they can't talk etc). Even if your veterinarian did do preanesthetic bloodwork and a full physical which is standard of care, it's still possible your pet had an underlying condition which was undetected through no fault of the doctor. It's impossible for us to say without knowing more.   You could discuss a necropsy with your veterinarian as someone else mentioned (time sensitive & you may or may not get an answer). I would absolutely ask to meet/zoom with them to discuss what happened in more detail so you can get some closure. It's totally normal to have questions and want to discuss this further. I'm very sorry for your loss.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 4938.0, "score_ratio": 1.5660377358, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "rfsx5x", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "Shih tzu died during dental cleaning. My 14 month old, healthy, shih tzu died during a routine dental cleaning today. How often does this happen and what are the usual causes? I was told her heart stopped beating twice, after the second time she could not be revived. Thank you.", "c_root_id_A": "hofzdvf", "c_root_id_B": "hogbq0q", "created_at_utc_A": 1639438614, "created_at_utc_B": 1639444657, "score_A": 48, "score_B": 166, "human_ref_A": "Did the vet do blood work before they put her under anesthesia?", "human_ref_B": "My heart breaks for you, I adore those little guys.  Without a necropsy, no one can answer **exactly why** she passed away. Since you asked how frequently this happens, it is very very uncommon, 0.05% in healthy dogs.   This covers everything you never wanted to know about anesthetic death. It is a 10 year old publication but covers the most common issues.  I am so, so sorry. I hope this doesn\u2019t deter you from getting appropriate dental care for your dogs in the future because it is very important, especially little guys like Shih Tzu\u2019s. I\u2019m so sorry you were one of the unlucky ones. Please know she did not suffer and your veterinary team is heartbroken as well. \ud83d\udc97", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 6043.0, "score_ratio": 3.4583333333, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "rfsx5x", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "Shih tzu died during dental cleaning. My 14 month old, healthy, shih tzu died during a routine dental cleaning today. How often does this happen and what are the usual causes? I was told her heart stopped beating twice, after the second time she could not be revived. Thank you.", "c_root_id_A": "hog0nuz", "c_root_id_B": "hogbq0q", "created_at_utc_A": 1639439175, "created_at_utc_B": 1639444657, "score_A": 20, "score_B": 166, "human_ref_A": "There are lots of reasons...from malpractice to a body reaction. If something of this type of thing happens and there aren't any independent organisms that perform an investigation in the veterinary clinci, the owner has the right to ask for a necropsy. Normally this can be done in veterinary medicine schools for example.", "human_ref_B": "My heart breaks for you, I adore those little guys.  Without a necropsy, no one can answer **exactly why** she passed away. Since you asked how frequently this happens, it is very very uncommon, 0.05% in healthy dogs.   This covers everything you never wanted to know about anesthetic death. It is a 10 year old publication but covers the most common issues.  I am so, so sorry. I hope this doesn\u2019t deter you from getting appropriate dental care for your dogs in the future because it is very important, especially little guys like Shih Tzu\u2019s. I\u2019m so sorry you were one of the unlucky ones. Please know she did not suffer and your veterinary team is heartbroken as well. \ud83d\udc97", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 5482.0, "score_ratio": 8.3, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "rfsx5x", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "Shih tzu died during dental cleaning. My 14 month old, healthy, shih tzu died during a routine dental cleaning today. How often does this happen and what are the usual causes? I was told her heart stopped beating twice, after the second time she could not be revived. Thank you.", "c_root_id_A": "hofvhnu", "c_root_id_B": "hogbq0q", "created_at_utc_A": 1639436927, "created_at_utc_B": 1639444657, "score_A": -1, "score_B": 166, "human_ref_A": "Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "My heart breaks for you, I adore those little guys.  Without a necropsy, no one can answer **exactly why** she passed away. Since you asked how frequently this happens, it is very very uncommon, 0.05% in healthy dogs.   This covers everything you never wanted to know about anesthetic death. It is a 10 year old publication but covers the most common issues.  I am so, so sorry. I hope this doesn\u2019t deter you from getting appropriate dental care for your dogs in the future because it is very important, especially little guys like Shih Tzu\u2019s. I\u2019m so sorry you were one of the unlucky ones. Please know she did not suffer and your veterinary team is heartbroken as well. \ud83d\udc97", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 7730.0, "score_ratio": -166.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "rfsx5x", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "Shih tzu died during dental cleaning. My 14 month old, healthy, shih tzu died during a routine dental cleaning today. How often does this happen and what are the usual causes? I was told her heart stopped beating twice, after the second time she could not be revived. Thank you.", "c_root_id_A": "hofzdvf", "c_root_id_B": "hog1w30", "created_at_utc_A": 1639438614, "created_at_utc_B": 1639439719, "score_A": 48, "score_B": 106, "human_ref_A": "Did the vet do blood work before they put her under anesthesia?", "human_ref_B": "Many things can cause this, while it doesn't happen often I will say that sudden death under anesthesia is probably more common in veterinary medicine for a variety of reasons. From lack of regulation leading to variable standards of care, to our lesser ability to know what's going on with our patients (they can't talk etc). Even if your veterinarian did do preanesthetic bloodwork and a full physical which is standard of care, it's still possible your pet had an underlying condition which was undetected through no fault of the doctor. It's impossible for us to say without knowing more.   You could discuss a necropsy with your veterinarian as someone else mentioned (time sensitive & you may or may not get an answer). I would absolutely ask to meet/zoom with them to discuss what happened in more detail so you can get some closure. It's totally normal to have questions and want to discuss this further. I'm very sorry for your loss.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 1105.0, "score_ratio": 2.2083333333, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "rfsx5x", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "Shih tzu died during dental cleaning. My 14 month old, healthy, shih tzu died during a routine dental cleaning today. How often does this happen and what are the usual causes? I was told her heart stopped beating twice, after the second time she could not be revived. Thank you.", "c_root_id_A": "hog0nuz", "c_root_id_B": "hog1w30", "created_at_utc_A": 1639439175, "created_at_utc_B": 1639439719, "score_A": 20, "score_B": 106, "human_ref_A": "There are lots of reasons...from malpractice to a body reaction. If something of this type of thing happens and there aren't any independent organisms that perform an investigation in the veterinary clinci, the owner has the right to ask for a necropsy. Normally this can be done in veterinary medicine schools for example.", "human_ref_B": "Many things can cause this, while it doesn't happen often I will say that sudden death under anesthesia is probably more common in veterinary medicine for a variety of reasons. From lack of regulation leading to variable standards of care, to our lesser ability to know what's going on with our patients (they can't talk etc). Even if your veterinarian did do preanesthetic bloodwork and a full physical which is standard of care, it's still possible your pet had an underlying condition which was undetected through no fault of the doctor. It's impossible for us to say without knowing more.   You could discuss a necropsy with your veterinarian as someone else mentioned (time sensitive & you may or may not get an answer). I would absolutely ask to meet/zoom with them to discuss what happened in more detail so you can get some closure. It's totally normal to have questions and want to discuss this further. I'm very sorry for your loss.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 544.0, "score_ratio": 5.3, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "rfsx5x", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "Shih tzu died during dental cleaning. My 14 month old, healthy, shih tzu died during a routine dental cleaning today. How often does this happen and what are the usual causes? I was told her heart stopped beating twice, after the second time she could not be revived. Thank you.", "c_root_id_A": "hofvhnu", "c_root_id_B": "hog1w30", "created_at_utc_A": 1639436927, "created_at_utc_B": 1639439719, "score_A": -1, "score_B": 106, "human_ref_A": "Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Many things can cause this, while it doesn't happen often I will say that sudden death under anesthesia is probably more common in veterinary medicine for a variety of reasons. From lack of regulation leading to variable standards of care, to our lesser ability to know what's going on with our patients (they can't talk etc). Even if your veterinarian did do preanesthetic bloodwork and a full physical which is standard of care, it's still possible your pet had an underlying condition which was undetected through no fault of the doctor. It's impossible for us to say without knowing more.   You could discuss a necropsy with your veterinarian as someone else mentioned (time sensitive & you may or may not get an answer). I would absolutely ask to meet/zoom with them to discuss what happened in more detail so you can get some closure. It's totally normal to have questions and want to discuss this further. I'm very sorry for your loss.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 2792.0, "score_ratio": -106.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "rfsx5x", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "Shih tzu died during dental cleaning. My 14 month old, healthy, shih tzu died during a routine dental cleaning today. How often does this happen and what are the usual causes? I was told her heart stopped beating twice, after the second time she could not be revived. Thank you.", "c_root_id_A": "hofzdvf", "c_root_id_B": "hofvhnu", "created_at_utc_A": 1639438614, "created_at_utc_B": 1639436927, "score_A": 48, "score_B": -1, "human_ref_A": "Did the vet do blood work before they put her under anesthesia?", "human_ref_B": "Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 1687.0, "score_ratio": -48.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "rfsx5x", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "Shih tzu died during dental cleaning. My 14 month old, healthy, shih tzu died during a routine dental cleaning today. How often does this happen and what are the usual causes? I was told her heart stopped beating twice, after the second time she could not be revived. Thank you.", "c_root_id_A": "hofvhnu", "c_root_id_B": "hog0nuz", "created_at_utc_A": 1639436927, "created_at_utc_B": 1639439175, "score_A": -1, "score_B": 20, "human_ref_A": "Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "There are lots of reasons...from malpractice to a body reaction. If something of this type of thing happens and there aren't any independent organisms that perform an investigation in the veterinary clinci, the owner has the right to ask for a necropsy. Normally this can be done in veterinary medicine schools for example.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 2248.0, "score_ratio": -20.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "b0teti", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "Update on my puppy from a couple months back Original post  I just wanted to give a little update considering how helpful this community was with Josie last time. To start I just wanna say thanks to all the people who messaged and commented on the original post with concern. I really appreciate all of the help and advice given to me.   About a month after the original post, Josie started to act odd again. She went back to not eating or drinking. This time I got her into a vet with the money I had saved in case this were to happen again. Originally they thought it was some gastrointestinal issues and sent me home with some medicine for her. She didn\u2019t get any better.   A couple days after our first visit she collapsed and j rushed her back to the vet. To make a long story a little shorter, they found that she had a herniated diaphragm and would need emergency surgery or she likely wouldn\u2019t make it.   At first I didn\u2019t know if I\u2019d be able to do the surgery as it was nearly $4,000 and I\u2019m a college student living off of scholarship money for the most part. I had pretty much used all of my money already for the medicine and previous visits. I was crushed. The vet techs and surgeon saw this and did what they could and got the price down to a much lower point for me that made it possible for me to use my mom\u2019s care credit, apply for my own, and then max out a credit card to be able to pay for the surgery. I will forever be thankful for those vets and all they did for me and Josie.   The vet warned me that the surgery would still be very risky with Josie being so small and it being such an intensive procedure. They called about 4 hours later to let me know that Josie had made it and was doing well. It\u2019s about two weeks later now and Josie is doing amazing. She\u2019s back to her old self and is recovering so well.   Thanks to everybody who commented on the original post and thank god for those vets.", "c_root_id_A": "eih05fy", "c_root_id_B": "eihekzf", "created_at_utc_A": 1552521861, "created_at_utc_B": 1552532657, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 26, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has not** been removed.   This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "I'm happy for you and Josie that things worked out and she got the surgery.   Thank you for the happy update.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 10796.0, "score_ratio": 26.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "b0teti", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "Update on my puppy from a couple months back Original post  I just wanted to give a little update considering how helpful this community was with Josie last time. To start I just wanna say thanks to all the people who messaged and commented on the original post with concern. I really appreciate all of the help and advice given to me.   About a month after the original post, Josie started to act odd again. She went back to not eating or drinking. This time I got her into a vet with the money I had saved in case this were to happen again. Originally they thought it was some gastrointestinal issues and sent me home with some medicine for her. She didn\u2019t get any better.   A couple days after our first visit she collapsed and j rushed her back to the vet. To make a long story a little shorter, they found that she had a herniated diaphragm and would need emergency surgery or she likely wouldn\u2019t make it.   At first I didn\u2019t know if I\u2019d be able to do the surgery as it was nearly $4,000 and I\u2019m a college student living off of scholarship money for the most part. I had pretty much used all of my money already for the medicine and previous visits. I was crushed. The vet techs and surgeon saw this and did what they could and got the price down to a much lower point for me that made it possible for me to use my mom\u2019s care credit, apply for my own, and then max out a credit card to be able to pay for the surgery. I will forever be thankful for those vets and all they did for me and Josie.   The vet warned me that the surgery would still be very risky with Josie being so small and it being such an intensive procedure. They called about 4 hours later to let me know that Josie had made it and was doing well. It\u2019s about two weeks later now and Josie is doing amazing. She\u2019s back to her old self and is recovering so well.   Thanks to everybody who commented on the original post and thank god for those vets.", "c_root_id_A": "eih05fy", "c_root_id_B": "eii31hm", "created_at_utc_A": 1552521861, "created_at_utc_B": 1552563702, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 12, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has not** been removed.   This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Out of curiosity, is Josie a shelter rescue or from a breeder? If she\u2019s from a reputable breeder, you may be able to recoup some of your expenses from them.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 41841.0, "score_ratio": 12.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "pn6bw8", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "The decision to euthanize my kitten is destroying me I have a 6 month old kitten named Bubbles. He was originally a foster who had \u201cpneumonia\u201d but when he wasn\u2019t improving I adopted him so I could take over his medical care.   After seeing 4 vets, including specialists, multiple xrays, blood work, and cardiology appointments, it was determined that he has an entire host of congenital defects. His lungs completely lack blood flow in the front, his heart has a bad valve, he has bone marrow issues, and kidney issues.   The thing is, he behaves like he\u2019s perfectly fine. He plays and runs and jumps and purrs. He\u2019s adorable and full of fun. The vet said he behaves this way because his defects are all he\u2019s ever known so he is used to feeling bad. But the vet also said that as he grows, his body will struggle more and that he is a ticking time bomb for catastrophic health failure and that he likely wouldn\u2019t die instantly but suffer before we could get him to the vet. She said it\u2019s not if but when and could happen anytime.  I love him so much. I don\u2019t want to euthanize him. But he is becoming sexually mature and we can\u2019t neuter him because he wouldn\u2019t survive anesthesia. He\u2019s starting to get pissy to our other cats. But also, I\u2019m constantly afraid for him, I dread the moment that he begins to suffer and hurt. Every time he is out of my sight I wonder if he\u2019s in a corner gasping for air.  Some people in my life have said I should wait to euthanize until he is suffering. The vet said with all of his issues it is appropriate to euthanize at any point, and this has been confirmed by 4 other vets. My thinking is that I\u2019d rather his last day be a happy day and not one where he is in agony. I am considering calling the mobile vet to come to our house to euthanize in the next week or so.  I\u2019m literally gutted by this. I don\u2019t know what plan is right. He can\u2019t survive his issues and they can\u2019t be treated. Do I euthanize before he declines or give him every good day he can have?  I just need some words of wisdom. I\u2019m paralyzed by grief and indecision.", "c_root_id_A": "hcngph1", "c_root_id_B": "hcn5q3u", "created_at_utc_A": 1631505037, "created_at_utc_B": 1631499306, "score_A": 58, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I'm so sorry you are going through this. It is an extremely unfair situation for anyone involved, and it still seems as if you've been doing the best you can. Very few pet parents go through the ordeal of seeking four \"second opinions\" for their animal's condition, and I truly do empathize for your extremely difficult journey.   From the language in your post, it seems like you understand euthanasia is going to be the most likely end for Bubbles. If his body could fail at any moment now, the stressors of continued growth and development could very well cause his physical condition and pain level deteriorate. Your vet said much the same, so I won't dwell on that any longer.   As a vet tech I feel, for cases in which the animal's condition will never improve beyond their current state, the most humane option is to euthanize early. This sounds very harsh, and I apologize again, but at this stage you are still able to control for their level of happiness and make at least one, final day of good memories. You can still give them special meals, take them to their favorite places, and simply sit, quietly, and hold them while they sleep. A person's animal doesn't know or understand why these things are happening to them, but they do understand the depth of their person's love. These things are no longer possible when that animal comes to us as an emergency, and I think the absence of those final, good memories makes it much more difficult for an animal's person to find closure.   The final decision remains yours, in the end. You seem to have a lot of empathy for Bubbles' condition, and your heart will tell you what is right. If you do decide euthanasia is the best course of action for Bubbles, please understand that we will be with you every step of the way. We will do our best to make the environment safe and comfortable, and we will wait until you are truly ready before we begin. If you are not able to remain in the room at the end, we will hold them and love them as if they were our own. Everybody cries, it never gets any easier, and we never forget the animals we help cross the bridge - but we will carry the burden together, knowing their time was peaceful and loving rather than scary or painful. No story could want for a better end.  Good luck to you, genuinely. I wish you both the best on your journey, and I hope you can find happiness in the final days with your friend.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. 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{"post_id": "pn6bw8", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "The decision to euthanize my kitten is destroying me I have a 6 month old kitten named Bubbles. He was originally a foster who had \u201cpneumonia\u201d but when he wasn\u2019t improving I adopted him so I could take over his medical care.   After seeing 4 vets, including specialists, multiple xrays, blood work, and cardiology appointments, it was determined that he has an entire host of congenital defects. His lungs completely lack blood flow in the front, his heart has a bad valve, he has bone marrow issues, and kidney issues.   The thing is, he behaves like he\u2019s perfectly fine. He plays and runs and jumps and purrs. He\u2019s adorable and full of fun. The vet said he behaves this way because his defects are all he\u2019s ever known so he is used to feeling bad. But the vet also said that as he grows, his body will struggle more and that he is a ticking time bomb for catastrophic health failure and that he likely wouldn\u2019t die instantly but suffer before we could get him to the vet. She said it\u2019s not if but when and could happen anytime.  I love him so much. I don\u2019t want to euthanize him. But he is becoming sexually mature and we can\u2019t neuter him because he wouldn\u2019t survive anesthesia. He\u2019s starting to get pissy to our other cats. But also, I\u2019m constantly afraid for him, I dread the moment that he begins to suffer and hurt. Every time he is out of my sight I wonder if he\u2019s in a corner gasping for air.  Some people in my life have said I should wait to euthanize until he is suffering. The vet said with all of his issues it is appropriate to euthanize at any point, and this has been confirmed by 4 other vets. My thinking is that I\u2019d rather his last day be a happy day and not one where he is in agony. I am considering calling the mobile vet to come to our house to euthanize in the next week or so.  I\u2019m literally gutted by this. I don\u2019t know what plan is right. He can\u2019t survive his issues and they can\u2019t be treated. Do I euthanize before he declines or give him every good day he can have?  I just need some words of wisdom. I\u2019m paralyzed by grief and indecision.", "c_root_id_A": "hcn5q3u", "c_root_id_B": "hcn9em7", "created_at_utc_A": 1631499306, "created_at_utc_B": 1631501133, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 55, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Only you can make the decision when. I do not think there is a correct answer.  This helped me. Maybe it will help you?  https://vet.osu.edu/vmc/sites/default/files/import/assets/pdf/hospital/companionAnimals/HonoringtheBond/HowDoIKnowWhen.pdf", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 1827.0, "score_ratio": 55.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "pn6bw8", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "The decision to euthanize my kitten is destroying me I have a 6 month old kitten named Bubbles. He was originally a foster who had \u201cpneumonia\u201d but when he wasn\u2019t improving I adopted him so I could take over his medical care.   After seeing 4 vets, including specialists, multiple xrays, blood work, and cardiology appointments, it was determined that he has an entire host of congenital defects. His lungs completely lack blood flow in the front, his heart has a bad valve, he has bone marrow issues, and kidney issues.   The thing is, he behaves like he\u2019s perfectly fine. He plays and runs and jumps and purrs. He\u2019s adorable and full of fun. The vet said he behaves this way because his defects are all he\u2019s ever known so he is used to feeling bad. But the vet also said that as he grows, his body will struggle more and that he is a ticking time bomb for catastrophic health failure and that he likely wouldn\u2019t die instantly but suffer before we could get him to the vet. She said it\u2019s not if but when and could happen anytime.  I love him so much. I don\u2019t want to euthanize him. But he is becoming sexually mature and we can\u2019t neuter him because he wouldn\u2019t survive anesthesia. He\u2019s starting to get pissy to our other cats. But also, I\u2019m constantly afraid for him, I dread the moment that he begins to suffer and hurt. Every time he is out of my sight I wonder if he\u2019s in a corner gasping for air.  Some people in my life have said I should wait to euthanize until he is suffering. The vet said with all of his issues it is appropriate to euthanize at any point, and this has been confirmed by 4 other vets. My thinking is that I\u2019d rather his last day be a happy day and not one where he is in agony. I am considering calling the mobile vet to come to our house to euthanize in the next week or so.  I\u2019m literally gutted by this. I don\u2019t know what plan is right. He can\u2019t survive his issues and they can\u2019t be treated. Do I euthanize before he declines or give him every good day he can have?  I just need some words of wisdom. I\u2019m paralyzed by grief and indecision.", "c_root_id_A": "hcnkfd6", "c_root_id_B": "hcn5q3u", "created_at_utc_A": 1631507198, "created_at_utc_B": 1631499306, "score_A": 31, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I'm so sorry that you are facing the grief and the heartbreak of this situation, and I thank you for taking this little guy in and giving him the best life, albeit how short it may wind up being. I want to just provide you some pet loss and grief resources, and hope that they may help you find some solace and relief now or later. My heart is with you and Bubbles.  https://www.lapoflove.com/pet-loss-support-resources", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 7892.0, "score_ratio": 31.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "pn6bw8", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "The decision to euthanize my kitten is destroying me I have a 6 month old kitten named Bubbles. He was originally a foster who had \u201cpneumonia\u201d but when he wasn\u2019t improving I adopted him so I could take over his medical care.   After seeing 4 vets, including specialists, multiple xrays, blood work, and cardiology appointments, it was determined that he has an entire host of congenital defects. His lungs completely lack blood flow in the front, his heart has a bad valve, he has bone marrow issues, and kidney issues.   The thing is, he behaves like he\u2019s perfectly fine. He plays and runs and jumps and purrs. He\u2019s adorable and full of fun. The vet said he behaves this way because his defects are all he\u2019s ever known so he is used to feeling bad. But the vet also said that as he grows, his body will struggle more and that he is a ticking time bomb for catastrophic health failure and that he likely wouldn\u2019t die instantly but suffer before we could get him to the vet. She said it\u2019s not if but when and could happen anytime.  I love him so much. I don\u2019t want to euthanize him. But he is becoming sexually mature and we can\u2019t neuter him because he wouldn\u2019t survive anesthesia. He\u2019s starting to get pissy to our other cats. But also, I\u2019m constantly afraid for him, I dread the moment that he begins to suffer and hurt. Every time he is out of my sight I wonder if he\u2019s in a corner gasping for air.  Some people in my life have said I should wait to euthanize until he is suffering. The vet said with all of his issues it is appropriate to euthanize at any point, and this has been confirmed by 4 other vets. My thinking is that I\u2019d rather his last day be a happy day and not one where he is in agony. I am considering calling the mobile vet to come to our house to euthanize in the next week or so.  I\u2019m literally gutted by this. I don\u2019t know what plan is right. He can\u2019t survive his issues and they can\u2019t be treated. Do I euthanize before he declines or give him every good day he can have?  I just need some words of wisdom. I\u2019m paralyzed by grief and indecision.", "c_root_id_A": "hcn9q97", "c_root_id_B": "hcn5q3u", "created_at_utc_A": 1631501297, "created_at_utc_B": 1631499306, "score_A": 11, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Not a vet, but I did make the decision to euthanize my 8 month old kitten named Angelo just a few months back.   He was diagnosed with an untreatable condition, and unfortunately his illness was too progressive so he had to be put down.   One of my biggest regrets at the time was not putting him down quickly enough. It's terrible watching them degrade like that - and you have no real way of knowing how this kitten may pass. There's an awful helplessness that comes with seeing the way they look at you, hearing them call for you to do something, and knowing you can't do anything.   The decision is yours.  However based on personal experience, I'd really recommend euthanizing him while he's still happy and playful.   You can spoil him with treats, play with him, and give him the best possible thrills a cat could have. Then you can take him to the vet, and after having a wonderful day (or few days), he can be put to sleep. No fear, no pain. He'll have had a good life, and ended it feeling content.   I think you're making the right decision for him.  Its a terrible decision to have to make, but I think its admirable that you're considering his comfort and quality of life.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 1991.0, "score_ratio": 11.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "pn6bw8", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "The decision to euthanize my kitten is destroying me I have a 6 month old kitten named Bubbles. He was originally a foster who had \u201cpneumonia\u201d but when he wasn\u2019t improving I adopted him so I could take over his medical care.   After seeing 4 vets, including specialists, multiple xrays, blood work, and cardiology appointments, it was determined that he has an entire host of congenital defects. His lungs completely lack blood flow in the front, his heart has a bad valve, he has bone marrow issues, and kidney issues.   The thing is, he behaves like he\u2019s perfectly fine. He plays and runs and jumps and purrs. He\u2019s adorable and full of fun. The vet said he behaves this way because his defects are all he\u2019s ever known so he is used to feeling bad. But the vet also said that as he grows, his body will struggle more and that he is a ticking time bomb for catastrophic health failure and that he likely wouldn\u2019t die instantly but suffer before we could get him to the vet. She said it\u2019s not if but when and could happen anytime.  I love him so much. I don\u2019t want to euthanize him. But he is becoming sexually mature and we can\u2019t neuter him because he wouldn\u2019t survive anesthesia. He\u2019s starting to get pissy to our other cats. But also, I\u2019m constantly afraid for him, I dread the moment that he begins to suffer and hurt. Every time he is out of my sight I wonder if he\u2019s in a corner gasping for air.  Some people in my life have said I should wait to euthanize until he is suffering. The vet said with all of his issues it is appropriate to euthanize at any point, and this has been confirmed by 4 other vets. My thinking is that I\u2019d rather his last day be a happy day and not one where he is in agony. I am considering calling the mobile vet to come to our house to euthanize in the next week or so.  I\u2019m literally gutted by this. I don\u2019t know what plan is right. He can\u2019t survive his issues and they can\u2019t be treated. Do I euthanize before he declines or give him every good day he can have?  I just need some words of wisdom. I\u2019m paralyzed by grief and indecision.", "c_root_id_A": "hcnrxyt", "c_root_id_B": "hcn5q3u", "created_at_utc_A": 1631512267, "created_at_utc_B": 1631499306, "score_A": 9, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Im so sorry you are in this position. Just remember that he doesn't have an expectation of how long his life 'should' have been, only how he feels from day to day. In my opinion its better to let a pet go a day too early rather than half an hour too late.  Its always an especially heartbreaking decision when a pet still appears 'healthy' but without its impossible to know what the tipping point is when his little body will no longer be able to cope. If this were my pet, having the information that you have I would not be waiting until he is showing visible signs of suffering (animals are very good at hiding pain and discomfort).   It's clear you care about your little guy, but worrying that he's taken a turn when he's out of your line of sight is also not good for your own health. If something did happen while you were out youre understandably going to be plagued with 'what ifs'.  Talk with your veterinary team but I would suggest make an appointment (home visit or clinic) spend some quality time with him, spoil him with all of his favourite treats and as hard as it is let him go.  As someone who worked as a veterinary nurse I would suggest having a discussion ahead of time with your vet about their euthanasia procedure and what to expect. Also as hard as it is think about what you want to do after, do you have somewhere to bury your little guy or is cremation an option you want to look into.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 12961.0, "score_ratio": 9.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "pn6bw8", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "The decision to euthanize my kitten is destroying me I have a 6 month old kitten named Bubbles. He was originally a foster who had \u201cpneumonia\u201d but when he wasn\u2019t improving I adopted him so I could take over his medical care.   After seeing 4 vets, including specialists, multiple xrays, blood work, and cardiology appointments, it was determined that he has an entire host of congenital defects. His lungs completely lack blood flow in the front, his heart has a bad valve, he has bone marrow issues, and kidney issues.   The thing is, he behaves like he\u2019s perfectly fine. He plays and runs and jumps and purrs. He\u2019s adorable and full of fun. The vet said he behaves this way because his defects are all he\u2019s ever known so he is used to feeling bad. But the vet also said that as he grows, his body will struggle more and that he is a ticking time bomb for catastrophic health failure and that he likely wouldn\u2019t die instantly but suffer before we could get him to the vet. She said it\u2019s not if but when and could happen anytime.  I love him so much. I don\u2019t want to euthanize him. But he is becoming sexually mature and we can\u2019t neuter him because he wouldn\u2019t survive anesthesia. He\u2019s starting to get pissy to our other cats. But also, I\u2019m constantly afraid for him, I dread the moment that he begins to suffer and hurt. Every time he is out of my sight I wonder if he\u2019s in a corner gasping for air.  Some people in my life have said I should wait to euthanize until he is suffering. The vet said with all of his issues it is appropriate to euthanize at any point, and this has been confirmed by 4 other vets. My thinking is that I\u2019d rather his last day be a happy day and not one where he is in agony. I am considering calling the mobile vet to come to our house to euthanize in the next week or so.  I\u2019m literally gutted by this. I don\u2019t know what plan is right. He can\u2019t survive his issues and they can\u2019t be treated. Do I euthanize before he declines or give him every good day he can have?  I just need some words of wisdom. I\u2019m paralyzed by grief and indecision.", "c_root_id_A": "hcnoyae", "c_root_id_B": "hcn5q3u", "created_at_utc_A": 1631510143, "created_at_utc_B": 1631499306, "score_A": 7, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I just want to say, be there for the kitty when he is being euthanized. Way too many owners let their pets get euthanized with just the vet present- when the animal in its last moments is with a stranger looking for its owner. Be with the kitty during its last moments and don't leave him alone with a stranger.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 10837.0, "score_ratio": 7.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "pn6bw8", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "The decision to euthanize my kitten is destroying me I have a 6 month old kitten named Bubbles. He was originally a foster who had \u201cpneumonia\u201d but when he wasn\u2019t improving I adopted him so I could take over his medical care.   After seeing 4 vets, including specialists, multiple xrays, blood work, and cardiology appointments, it was determined that he has an entire host of congenital defects. His lungs completely lack blood flow in the front, his heart has a bad valve, he has bone marrow issues, and kidney issues.   The thing is, he behaves like he\u2019s perfectly fine. He plays and runs and jumps and purrs. He\u2019s adorable and full of fun. The vet said he behaves this way because his defects are all he\u2019s ever known so he is used to feeling bad. But the vet also said that as he grows, his body will struggle more and that he is a ticking time bomb for catastrophic health failure and that he likely wouldn\u2019t die instantly but suffer before we could get him to the vet. She said it\u2019s not if but when and could happen anytime.  I love him so much. I don\u2019t want to euthanize him. But he is becoming sexually mature and we can\u2019t neuter him because he wouldn\u2019t survive anesthesia. He\u2019s starting to get pissy to our other cats. But also, I\u2019m constantly afraid for him, I dread the moment that he begins to suffer and hurt. Every time he is out of my sight I wonder if he\u2019s in a corner gasping for air.  Some people in my life have said I should wait to euthanize until he is suffering. The vet said with all of his issues it is appropriate to euthanize at any point, and this has been confirmed by 4 other vets. My thinking is that I\u2019d rather his last day be a happy day and not one where he is in agony. I am considering calling the mobile vet to come to our house to euthanize in the next week or so.  I\u2019m literally gutted by this. I don\u2019t know what plan is right. He can\u2019t survive his issues and they can\u2019t be treated. Do I euthanize before he declines or give him every good day he can have?  I just need some words of wisdom. I\u2019m paralyzed by grief and indecision.", "c_root_id_A": "hcn5q3u", "c_root_id_B": "hcoy5jd", "created_at_utc_A": 1631499306, "created_at_utc_B": 1631542415, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 7, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Quality of life over quantity of life.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 43109.0, "score_ratio": 7.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "pn6bw8", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "The decision to euthanize my kitten is destroying me I have a 6 month old kitten named Bubbles. He was originally a foster who had \u201cpneumonia\u201d but when he wasn\u2019t improving I adopted him so I could take over his medical care.   After seeing 4 vets, including specialists, multiple xrays, blood work, and cardiology appointments, it was determined that he has an entire host of congenital defects. His lungs completely lack blood flow in the front, his heart has a bad valve, he has bone marrow issues, and kidney issues.   The thing is, he behaves like he\u2019s perfectly fine. He plays and runs and jumps and purrs. He\u2019s adorable and full of fun. The vet said he behaves this way because his defects are all he\u2019s ever known so he is used to feeling bad. But the vet also said that as he grows, his body will struggle more and that he is a ticking time bomb for catastrophic health failure and that he likely wouldn\u2019t die instantly but suffer before we could get him to the vet. She said it\u2019s not if but when and could happen anytime.  I love him so much. I don\u2019t want to euthanize him. But he is becoming sexually mature and we can\u2019t neuter him because he wouldn\u2019t survive anesthesia. He\u2019s starting to get pissy to our other cats. But also, I\u2019m constantly afraid for him, I dread the moment that he begins to suffer and hurt. Every time he is out of my sight I wonder if he\u2019s in a corner gasping for air.  Some people in my life have said I should wait to euthanize until he is suffering. The vet said with all of his issues it is appropriate to euthanize at any point, and this has been confirmed by 4 other vets. My thinking is that I\u2019d rather his last day be a happy day and not one where he is in agony. I am considering calling the mobile vet to come to our house to euthanize in the next week or so.  I\u2019m literally gutted by this. I don\u2019t know what plan is right. He can\u2019t survive his issues and they can\u2019t be treated. Do I euthanize before he declines or give him every good day he can have?  I just need some words of wisdom. I\u2019m paralyzed by grief and indecision.", "c_root_id_A": "hcngzn0", "c_root_id_B": "hcn5q3u", "created_at_utc_A": 1631505197, "created_at_utc_B": 1631499306, "score_A": 3, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Be with him and love him until the end. When it\u2019s time he will let you know.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 5891.0, "score_ratio": 3.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "pn6bw8", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "The decision to euthanize my kitten is destroying me I have a 6 month old kitten named Bubbles. He was originally a foster who had \u201cpneumonia\u201d but when he wasn\u2019t improving I adopted him so I could take over his medical care.   After seeing 4 vets, including specialists, multiple xrays, blood work, and cardiology appointments, it was determined that he has an entire host of congenital defects. His lungs completely lack blood flow in the front, his heart has a bad valve, he has bone marrow issues, and kidney issues.   The thing is, he behaves like he\u2019s perfectly fine. He plays and runs and jumps and purrs. He\u2019s adorable and full of fun. The vet said he behaves this way because his defects are all he\u2019s ever known so he is used to feeling bad. But the vet also said that as he grows, his body will struggle more and that he is a ticking time bomb for catastrophic health failure and that he likely wouldn\u2019t die instantly but suffer before we could get him to the vet. She said it\u2019s not if but when and could happen anytime.  I love him so much. I don\u2019t want to euthanize him. But he is becoming sexually mature and we can\u2019t neuter him because he wouldn\u2019t survive anesthesia. He\u2019s starting to get pissy to our other cats. But also, I\u2019m constantly afraid for him, I dread the moment that he begins to suffer and hurt. Every time he is out of my sight I wonder if he\u2019s in a corner gasping for air.  Some people in my life have said I should wait to euthanize until he is suffering. The vet said with all of his issues it is appropriate to euthanize at any point, and this has been confirmed by 4 other vets. My thinking is that I\u2019d rather his last day be a happy day and not one where he is in agony. I am considering calling the mobile vet to come to our house to euthanize in the next week or so.  I\u2019m literally gutted by this. I don\u2019t know what plan is right. He can\u2019t survive his issues and they can\u2019t be treated. Do I euthanize before he declines or give him every good day he can have?  I just need some words of wisdom. I\u2019m paralyzed by grief and indecision.", "c_root_id_A": "hcn5q3u", "c_root_id_B": "hcozv5o", "created_at_utc_A": 1631499306, "created_at_utc_B": 1631543162, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 3, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "You just do what you feel is right. No one else can do it but you. You will know when the time is right, for you will feel it in your heart. He does have a lot against him, but if you are still willing to care for him in the meantime, do it till he lets you know it is time for him to go. You both have a connection. So sorry for his health issues. Do what your heart tells you.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 43856.0, "score_ratio": 3.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "pn6bw8", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "The decision to euthanize my kitten is destroying me I have a 6 month old kitten named Bubbles. He was originally a foster who had \u201cpneumonia\u201d but when he wasn\u2019t improving I adopted him so I could take over his medical care.   After seeing 4 vets, including specialists, multiple xrays, blood work, and cardiology appointments, it was determined that he has an entire host of congenital defects. His lungs completely lack blood flow in the front, his heart has a bad valve, he has bone marrow issues, and kidney issues.   The thing is, he behaves like he\u2019s perfectly fine. He plays and runs and jumps and purrs. He\u2019s adorable and full of fun. The vet said he behaves this way because his defects are all he\u2019s ever known so he is used to feeling bad. But the vet also said that as he grows, his body will struggle more and that he is a ticking time bomb for catastrophic health failure and that he likely wouldn\u2019t die instantly but suffer before we could get him to the vet. She said it\u2019s not if but when and could happen anytime.  I love him so much. I don\u2019t want to euthanize him. But he is becoming sexually mature and we can\u2019t neuter him because he wouldn\u2019t survive anesthesia. He\u2019s starting to get pissy to our other cats. But also, I\u2019m constantly afraid for him, I dread the moment that he begins to suffer and hurt. Every time he is out of my sight I wonder if he\u2019s in a corner gasping for air.  Some people in my life have said I should wait to euthanize until he is suffering. The vet said with all of his issues it is appropriate to euthanize at any point, and this has been confirmed by 4 other vets. My thinking is that I\u2019d rather his last day be a happy day and not one where he is in agony. I am considering calling the mobile vet to come to our house to euthanize in the next week or so.  I\u2019m literally gutted by this. I don\u2019t know what plan is right. He can\u2019t survive his issues and they can\u2019t be treated. Do I euthanize before he declines or give him every good day he can have?  I just need some words of wisdom. I\u2019m paralyzed by grief and indecision.", "c_root_id_A": "hcn5q3u", "c_root_id_B": "hcpaev1", "created_at_utc_A": 1631499306, "created_at_utc_B": 1631547578, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "I\u2019m sorry. These situations are so brutal. I know it hurts, but the fact that you care so deeply and have sought out so many experts tells me that you\u2019ll make the right decision, what ever that decision ends up being.  Take care and give Bubbles all the love you can while he\u2019s still with you.  Edit: oops. I\u2019m not a vet. I understand if this is removed for breaking sub rules", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 48272.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "pn6bw8", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "The decision to euthanize my kitten is destroying me I have a 6 month old kitten named Bubbles. He was originally a foster who had \u201cpneumonia\u201d but when he wasn\u2019t improving I adopted him so I could take over his medical care.   After seeing 4 vets, including specialists, multiple xrays, blood work, and cardiology appointments, it was determined that he has an entire host of congenital defects. His lungs completely lack blood flow in the front, his heart has a bad valve, he has bone marrow issues, and kidney issues.   The thing is, he behaves like he\u2019s perfectly fine. He plays and runs and jumps and purrs. He\u2019s adorable and full of fun. The vet said he behaves this way because his defects are all he\u2019s ever known so he is used to feeling bad. But the vet also said that as he grows, his body will struggle more and that he is a ticking time bomb for catastrophic health failure and that he likely wouldn\u2019t die instantly but suffer before we could get him to the vet. She said it\u2019s not if but when and could happen anytime.  I love him so much. I don\u2019t want to euthanize him. But he is becoming sexually mature and we can\u2019t neuter him because he wouldn\u2019t survive anesthesia. He\u2019s starting to get pissy to our other cats. But also, I\u2019m constantly afraid for him, I dread the moment that he begins to suffer and hurt. Every time he is out of my sight I wonder if he\u2019s in a corner gasping for air.  Some people in my life have said I should wait to euthanize until he is suffering. The vet said with all of his issues it is appropriate to euthanize at any point, and this has been confirmed by 4 other vets. My thinking is that I\u2019d rather his last day be a happy day and not one where he is in agony. I am considering calling the mobile vet to come to our house to euthanize in the next week or so.  I\u2019m literally gutted by this. I don\u2019t know what plan is right. He can\u2019t survive his issues and they can\u2019t be treated. Do I euthanize before he declines or give him every good day he can have?  I just need some words of wisdom. I\u2019m paralyzed by grief and indecision.", "c_root_id_A": "hcn9em7", "c_root_id_B": "hcngph1", "created_at_utc_A": 1631501133, "created_at_utc_B": 1631505037, "score_A": 55, "score_B": 58, "human_ref_A": "Only you can make the decision when. I do not think there is a correct answer.  This helped me. Maybe it will help you?  https://vet.osu.edu/vmc/sites/default/files/import/assets/pdf/hospital/companionAnimals/HonoringtheBond/HowDoIKnowWhen.pdf", "human_ref_B": "I'm so sorry you are going through this. It is an extremely unfair situation for anyone involved, and it still seems as if you've been doing the best you can. Very few pet parents go through the ordeal of seeking four \"second opinions\" for their animal's condition, and I truly do empathize for your extremely difficult journey.   From the language in your post, it seems like you understand euthanasia is going to be the most likely end for Bubbles. If his body could fail at any moment now, the stressors of continued growth and development could very well cause his physical condition and pain level deteriorate. Your vet said much the same, so I won't dwell on that any longer.   As a vet tech I feel, for cases in which the animal's condition will never improve beyond their current state, the most humane option is to euthanize early. This sounds very harsh, and I apologize again, but at this stage you are still able to control for their level of happiness and make at least one, final day of good memories. You can still give them special meals, take them to their favorite places, and simply sit, quietly, and hold them while they sleep. A person's animal doesn't know or understand why these things are happening to them, but they do understand the depth of their person's love. These things are no longer possible when that animal comes to us as an emergency, and I think the absence of those final, good memories makes it much more difficult for an animal's person to find closure.   The final decision remains yours, in the end. You seem to have a lot of empathy for Bubbles' condition, and your heart will tell you what is right. If you do decide euthanasia is the best course of action for Bubbles, please understand that we will be with you every step of the way. We will do our best to make the environment safe and comfortable, and we will wait until you are truly ready before we begin. If you are not able to remain in the room at the end, we will hold them and love them as if they were our own. Everybody cries, it never gets any easier, and we never forget the animals we help cross the bridge - but we will carry the burden together, knowing their time was peaceful and loving rather than scary or painful. No story could want for a better end.  Good luck to you, genuinely. I wish you both the best on your journey, and I hope you can find happiness in the final days with your friend.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 3904.0, "score_ratio": 1.0545454545, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "pn6bw8", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "The decision to euthanize my kitten is destroying me I have a 6 month old kitten named Bubbles. He was originally a foster who had \u201cpneumonia\u201d but when he wasn\u2019t improving I adopted him so I could take over his medical care.   After seeing 4 vets, including specialists, multiple xrays, blood work, and cardiology appointments, it was determined that he has an entire host of congenital defects. His lungs completely lack blood flow in the front, his heart has a bad valve, he has bone marrow issues, and kidney issues.   The thing is, he behaves like he\u2019s perfectly fine. He plays and runs and jumps and purrs. He\u2019s adorable and full of fun. The vet said he behaves this way because his defects are all he\u2019s ever known so he is used to feeling bad. But the vet also said that as he grows, his body will struggle more and that he is a ticking time bomb for catastrophic health failure and that he likely wouldn\u2019t die instantly but suffer before we could get him to the vet. She said it\u2019s not if but when and could happen anytime.  I love him so much. I don\u2019t want to euthanize him. But he is becoming sexually mature and we can\u2019t neuter him because he wouldn\u2019t survive anesthesia. He\u2019s starting to get pissy to our other cats. But also, I\u2019m constantly afraid for him, I dread the moment that he begins to suffer and hurt. Every time he is out of my sight I wonder if he\u2019s in a corner gasping for air.  Some people in my life have said I should wait to euthanize until he is suffering. The vet said with all of his issues it is appropriate to euthanize at any point, and this has been confirmed by 4 other vets. My thinking is that I\u2019d rather his last day be a happy day and not one where he is in agony. I am considering calling the mobile vet to come to our house to euthanize in the next week or so.  I\u2019m literally gutted by this. I don\u2019t know what plan is right. He can\u2019t survive his issues and they can\u2019t be treated. Do I euthanize before he declines or give him every good day he can have?  I just need some words of wisdom. I\u2019m paralyzed by grief and indecision.", "c_root_id_A": "hcn9q97", "c_root_id_B": "hcngph1", "created_at_utc_A": 1631501297, "created_at_utc_B": 1631505037, "score_A": 11, "score_B": 58, "human_ref_A": "Not a vet, but I did make the decision to euthanize my 8 month old kitten named Angelo just a few months back.   He was diagnosed with an untreatable condition, and unfortunately his illness was too progressive so he had to be put down.   One of my biggest regrets at the time was not putting him down quickly enough. It's terrible watching them degrade like that - and you have no real way of knowing how this kitten may pass. There's an awful helplessness that comes with seeing the way they look at you, hearing them call for you to do something, and knowing you can't do anything.   The decision is yours.  However based on personal experience, I'd really recommend euthanizing him while he's still happy and playful.   You can spoil him with treats, play with him, and give him the best possible thrills a cat could have. Then you can take him to the vet, and after having a wonderful day (or few days), he can be put to sleep. No fear, no pain. He'll have had a good life, and ended it feeling content.   I think you're making the right decision for him.  Its a terrible decision to have to make, but I think its admirable that you're considering his comfort and quality of life.", "human_ref_B": "I'm so sorry you are going through this. It is an extremely unfair situation for anyone involved, and it still seems as if you've been doing the best you can. Very few pet parents go through the ordeal of seeking four \"second opinions\" for their animal's condition, and I truly do empathize for your extremely difficult journey.   From the language in your post, it seems like you understand euthanasia is going to be the most likely end for Bubbles. If his body could fail at any moment now, the stressors of continued growth and development could very well cause his physical condition and pain level deteriorate. Your vet said much the same, so I won't dwell on that any longer.   As a vet tech I feel, for cases in which the animal's condition will never improve beyond their current state, the most humane option is to euthanize early. This sounds very harsh, and I apologize again, but at this stage you are still able to control for their level of happiness and make at least one, final day of good memories. You can still give them special meals, take them to their favorite places, and simply sit, quietly, and hold them while they sleep. A person's animal doesn't know or understand why these things are happening to them, but they do understand the depth of their person's love. These things are no longer possible when that animal comes to us as an emergency, and I think the absence of those final, good memories makes it much more difficult for an animal's person to find closure.   The final decision remains yours, in the end. You seem to have a lot of empathy for Bubbles' condition, and your heart will tell you what is right. If you do decide euthanasia is the best course of action for Bubbles, please understand that we will be with you every step of the way. We will do our best to make the environment safe and comfortable, and we will wait until you are truly ready before we begin. If you are not able to remain in the room at the end, we will hold them and love them as if they were our own. Everybody cries, it never gets any easier, and we never forget the animals we help cross the bridge - but we will carry the burden together, knowing their time was peaceful and loving rather than scary or painful. No story could want for a better end.  Good luck to you, genuinely. I wish you both the best on your journey, and I hope you can find happiness in the final days with your friend.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 3740.0, "score_ratio": 5.2727272727, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "pn6bw8", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "The decision to euthanize my kitten is destroying me I have a 6 month old kitten named Bubbles. He was originally a foster who had \u201cpneumonia\u201d but when he wasn\u2019t improving I adopted him so I could take over his medical care.   After seeing 4 vets, including specialists, multiple xrays, blood work, and cardiology appointments, it was determined that he has an entire host of congenital defects. His lungs completely lack blood flow in the front, his heart has a bad valve, he has bone marrow issues, and kidney issues.   The thing is, he behaves like he\u2019s perfectly fine. He plays and runs and jumps and purrs. He\u2019s adorable and full of fun. The vet said he behaves this way because his defects are all he\u2019s ever known so he is used to feeling bad. But the vet also said that as he grows, his body will struggle more and that he is a ticking time bomb for catastrophic health failure and that he likely wouldn\u2019t die instantly but suffer before we could get him to the vet. She said it\u2019s not if but when and could happen anytime.  I love him so much. I don\u2019t want to euthanize him. But he is becoming sexually mature and we can\u2019t neuter him because he wouldn\u2019t survive anesthesia. He\u2019s starting to get pissy to our other cats. But also, I\u2019m constantly afraid for him, I dread the moment that he begins to suffer and hurt. Every time he is out of my sight I wonder if he\u2019s in a corner gasping for air.  Some people in my life have said I should wait to euthanize until he is suffering. The vet said with all of his issues it is appropriate to euthanize at any point, and this has been confirmed by 4 other vets. My thinking is that I\u2019d rather his last day be a happy day and not one where he is in agony. I am considering calling the mobile vet to come to our house to euthanize in the next week or so.  I\u2019m literally gutted by this. I don\u2019t know what plan is right. He can\u2019t survive his issues and they can\u2019t be treated. Do I euthanize before he declines or give him every good day he can have?  I just need some words of wisdom. I\u2019m paralyzed by grief and indecision.", "c_root_id_A": "hcn9q97", "c_root_id_B": "hcnkfd6", "created_at_utc_A": 1631501297, "created_at_utc_B": 1631507198, "score_A": 11, "score_B": 31, "human_ref_A": "Not a vet, but I did make the decision to euthanize my 8 month old kitten named Angelo just a few months back.   He was diagnosed with an untreatable condition, and unfortunately his illness was too progressive so he had to be put down.   One of my biggest regrets at the time was not putting him down quickly enough. It's terrible watching them degrade like that - and you have no real way of knowing how this kitten may pass. There's an awful helplessness that comes with seeing the way they look at you, hearing them call for you to do something, and knowing you can't do anything.   The decision is yours.  However based on personal experience, I'd really recommend euthanizing him while he's still happy and playful.   You can spoil him with treats, play with him, and give him the best possible thrills a cat could have. Then you can take him to the vet, and after having a wonderful day (or few days), he can be put to sleep. No fear, no pain. He'll have had a good life, and ended it feeling content.   I think you're making the right decision for him.  Its a terrible decision to have to make, but I think its admirable that you're considering his comfort and quality of life.", "human_ref_B": "I'm so sorry that you are facing the grief and the heartbreak of this situation, and I thank you for taking this little guy in and giving him the best life, albeit how short it may wind up being. I want to just provide you some pet loss and grief resources, and hope that they may help you find some solace and relief now or later. My heart is with you and Bubbles.  https://www.lapoflove.com/pet-loss-support-resources", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 5901.0, "score_ratio": 2.8181818182, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "pn6bw8", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "The decision to euthanize my kitten is destroying me I have a 6 month old kitten named Bubbles. He was originally a foster who had \u201cpneumonia\u201d but when he wasn\u2019t improving I adopted him so I could take over his medical care.   After seeing 4 vets, including specialists, multiple xrays, blood work, and cardiology appointments, it was determined that he has an entire host of congenital defects. His lungs completely lack blood flow in the front, his heart has a bad valve, he has bone marrow issues, and kidney issues.   The thing is, he behaves like he\u2019s perfectly fine. He plays and runs and jumps and purrs. He\u2019s adorable and full of fun. The vet said he behaves this way because his defects are all he\u2019s ever known so he is used to feeling bad. But the vet also said that as he grows, his body will struggle more and that he is a ticking time bomb for catastrophic health failure and that he likely wouldn\u2019t die instantly but suffer before we could get him to the vet. She said it\u2019s not if but when and could happen anytime.  I love him so much. I don\u2019t want to euthanize him. But he is becoming sexually mature and we can\u2019t neuter him because he wouldn\u2019t survive anesthesia. He\u2019s starting to get pissy to our other cats. But also, I\u2019m constantly afraid for him, I dread the moment that he begins to suffer and hurt. Every time he is out of my sight I wonder if he\u2019s in a corner gasping for air.  Some people in my life have said I should wait to euthanize until he is suffering. The vet said with all of his issues it is appropriate to euthanize at any point, and this has been confirmed by 4 other vets. My thinking is that I\u2019d rather his last day be a happy day and not one where he is in agony. I am considering calling the mobile vet to come to our house to euthanize in the next week or so.  I\u2019m literally gutted by this. I don\u2019t know what plan is right. He can\u2019t survive his issues and they can\u2019t be treated. Do I euthanize before he declines or give him every good day he can have?  I just need some words of wisdom. I\u2019m paralyzed by grief and indecision.", "c_root_id_A": "hcnkfd6", "c_root_id_B": "hcngzn0", "created_at_utc_A": 1631507198, "created_at_utc_B": 1631505197, "score_A": 31, "score_B": 3, "human_ref_A": "I'm so sorry that you are facing the grief and the heartbreak of this situation, and I thank you for taking this little guy in and giving him the best life, albeit how short it may wind up being. I want to just provide you some pet loss and grief resources, and hope that they may help you find some solace and relief now or later. My heart is with you and Bubbles.  https://www.lapoflove.com/pet-loss-support-resources", "human_ref_B": "Be with him and love him until the end. When it\u2019s time he will let you know.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 2001.0, "score_ratio": 10.3333333333, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "pn6bw8", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "The decision to euthanize my kitten is destroying me I have a 6 month old kitten named Bubbles. He was originally a foster who had \u201cpneumonia\u201d but when he wasn\u2019t improving I adopted him so I could take over his medical care.   After seeing 4 vets, including specialists, multiple xrays, blood work, and cardiology appointments, it was determined that he has an entire host of congenital defects. His lungs completely lack blood flow in the front, his heart has a bad valve, he has bone marrow issues, and kidney issues.   The thing is, he behaves like he\u2019s perfectly fine. He plays and runs and jumps and purrs. He\u2019s adorable and full of fun. The vet said he behaves this way because his defects are all he\u2019s ever known so he is used to feeling bad. But the vet also said that as he grows, his body will struggle more and that he is a ticking time bomb for catastrophic health failure and that he likely wouldn\u2019t die instantly but suffer before we could get him to the vet. She said it\u2019s not if but when and could happen anytime.  I love him so much. I don\u2019t want to euthanize him. But he is becoming sexually mature and we can\u2019t neuter him because he wouldn\u2019t survive anesthesia. He\u2019s starting to get pissy to our other cats. But also, I\u2019m constantly afraid for him, I dread the moment that he begins to suffer and hurt. Every time he is out of my sight I wonder if he\u2019s in a corner gasping for air.  Some people in my life have said I should wait to euthanize until he is suffering. The vet said with all of his issues it is appropriate to euthanize at any point, and this has been confirmed by 4 other vets. My thinking is that I\u2019d rather his last day be a happy day and not one where he is in agony. I am considering calling the mobile vet to come to our house to euthanize in the next week or so.  I\u2019m literally gutted by this. I don\u2019t know what plan is right. He can\u2019t survive his issues and they can\u2019t be treated. Do I euthanize before he declines or give him every good day he can have?  I just need some words of wisdom. I\u2019m paralyzed by grief and indecision.", "c_root_id_A": "hcnrxyt", "c_root_id_B": "hcnoyae", "created_at_utc_A": 1631512267, "created_at_utc_B": 1631510143, "score_A": 9, "score_B": 7, "human_ref_A": "Im so sorry you are in this position. Just remember that he doesn't have an expectation of how long his life 'should' have been, only how he feels from day to day. In my opinion its better to let a pet go a day too early rather than half an hour too late.  Its always an especially heartbreaking decision when a pet still appears 'healthy' but without its impossible to know what the tipping point is when his little body will no longer be able to cope. If this were my pet, having the information that you have I would not be waiting until he is showing visible signs of suffering (animals are very good at hiding pain and discomfort).   It's clear you care about your little guy, but worrying that he's taken a turn when he's out of your line of sight is also not good for your own health. If something did happen while you were out youre understandably going to be plagued with 'what ifs'.  Talk with your veterinary team but I would suggest make an appointment (home visit or clinic) spend some quality time with him, spoil him with all of his favourite treats and as hard as it is let him go.  As someone who worked as a veterinary nurse I would suggest having a discussion ahead of time with your vet about their euthanasia procedure and what to expect. Also as hard as it is think about what you want to do after, do you have somewhere to bury your little guy or is cremation an option you want to look into.", "human_ref_B": "I just want to say, be there for the kitty when he is being euthanized. Way too many owners let their pets get euthanized with just the vet present- when the animal in its last moments is with a stranger looking for its owner. Be with the kitty during its last moments and don't leave him alone with a stranger.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 2124.0, "score_ratio": 1.2857142857, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "pn6bw8", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "The decision to euthanize my kitten is destroying me I have a 6 month old kitten named Bubbles. He was originally a foster who had \u201cpneumonia\u201d but when he wasn\u2019t improving I adopted him so I could take over his medical care.   After seeing 4 vets, including specialists, multiple xrays, blood work, and cardiology appointments, it was determined that he has an entire host of congenital defects. His lungs completely lack blood flow in the front, his heart has a bad valve, he has bone marrow issues, and kidney issues.   The thing is, he behaves like he\u2019s perfectly fine. He plays and runs and jumps and purrs. He\u2019s adorable and full of fun. The vet said he behaves this way because his defects are all he\u2019s ever known so he is used to feeling bad. But the vet also said that as he grows, his body will struggle more and that he is a ticking time bomb for catastrophic health failure and that he likely wouldn\u2019t die instantly but suffer before we could get him to the vet. She said it\u2019s not if but when and could happen anytime.  I love him so much. I don\u2019t want to euthanize him. But he is becoming sexually mature and we can\u2019t neuter him because he wouldn\u2019t survive anesthesia. He\u2019s starting to get pissy to our other cats. But also, I\u2019m constantly afraid for him, I dread the moment that he begins to suffer and hurt. Every time he is out of my sight I wonder if he\u2019s in a corner gasping for air.  Some people in my life have said I should wait to euthanize until he is suffering. The vet said with all of his issues it is appropriate to euthanize at any point, and this has been confirmed by 4 other vets. My thinking is that I\u2019d rather his last day be a happy day and not one where he is in agony. I am considering calling the mobile vet to come to our house to euthanize in the next week or so.  I\u2019m literally gutted by this. I don\u2019t know what plan is right. He can\u2019t survive his issues and they can\u2019t be treated. Do I euthanize before he declines or give him every good day he can have?  I just need some words of wisdom. I\u2019m paralyzed by grief and indecision.", "c_root_id_A": "hcnrxyt", "c_root_id_B": "hcngzn0", "created_at_utc_A": 1631512267, "created_at_utc_B": 1631505197, "score_A": 9, "score_B": 3, "human_ref_A": "Im so sorry you are in this position. Just remember that he doesn't have an expectation of how long his life 'should' have been, only how he feels from day to day. In my opinion its better to let a pet go a day too early rather than half an hour too late.  Its always an especially heartbreaking decision when a pet still appears 'healthy' but without its impossible to know what the tipping point is when his little body will no longer be able to cope. If this were my pet, having the information that you have I would not be waiting until he is showing visible signs of suffering (animals are very good at hiding pain and discomfort).   It's clear you care about your little guy, but worrying that he's taken a turn when he's out of your line of sight is also not good for your own health. If something did happen while you were out youre understandably going to be plagued with 'what ifs'.  Talk with your veterinary team but I would suggest make an appointment (home visit or clinic) spend some quality time with him, spoil him with all of his favourite treats and as hard as it is let him go.  As someone who worked as a veterinary nurse I would suggest having a discussion ahead of time with your vet about their euthanasia procedure and what to expect. Also as hard as it is think about what you want to do after, do you have somewhere to bury your little guy or is cremation an option you want to look into.", "human_ref_B": "Be with him and love him until the end. When it\u2019s time he will let you know.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 7070.0, "score_ratio": 3.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "pn6bw8", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "The decision to euthanize my kitten is destroying me I have a 6 month old kitten named Bubbles. He was originally a foster who had \u201cpneumonia\u201d but when he wasn\u2019t improving I adopted him so I could take over his medical care.   After seeing 4 vets, including specialists, multiple xrays, blood work, and cardiology appointments, it was determined that he has an entire host of congenital defects. His lungs completely lack blood flow in the front, his heart has a bad valve, he has bone marrow issues, and kidney issues.   The thing is, he behaves like he\u2019s perfectly fine. He plays and runs and jumps and purrs. He\u2019s adorable and full of fun. The vet said he behaves this way because his defects are all he\u2019s ever known so he is used to feeling bad. But the vet also said that as he grows, his body will struggle more and that he is a ticking time bomb for catastrophic health failure and that he likely wouldn\u2019t die instantly but suffer before we could get him to the vet. She said it\u2019s not if but when and could happen anytime.  I love him so much. I don\u2019t want to euthanize him. But he is becoming sexually mature and we can\u2019t neuter him because he wouldn\u2019t survive anesthesia. He\u2019s starting to get pissy to our other cats. But also, I\u2019m constantly afraid for him, I dread the moment that he begins to suffer and hurt. Every time he is out of my sight I wonder if he\u2019s in a corner gasping for air.  Some people in my life have said I should wait to euthanize until he is suffering. The vet said with all of his issues it is appropriate to euthanize at any point, and this has been confirmed by 4 other vets. My thinking is that I\u2019d rather his last day be a happy day and not one where he is in agony. I am considering calling the mobile vet to come to our house to euthanize in the next week or so.  I\u2019m literally gutted by this. I don\u2019t know what plan is right. He can\u2019t survive his issues and they can\u2019t be treated. Do I euthanize before he declines or give him every good day he can have?  I just need some words of wisdom. I\u2019m paralyzed by grief and indecision.", "c_root_id_A": "hcnoyae", "c_root_id_B": "hcngzn0", "created_at_utc_A": 1631510143, "created_at_utc_B": 1631505197, "score_A": 7, "score_B": 3, "human_ref_A": "I just want to say, be there for the kitty when he is being euthanized. Way too many owners let their pets get euthanized with just the vet present- when the animal in its last moments is with a stranger looking for its owner. Be with the kitty during its last moments and don't leave him alone with a stranger.", "human_ref_B": "Be with him and love him until the end. When it\u2019s time he will let you know.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 4946.0, "score_ratio": 2.3333333333, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "pn6bw8", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "The decision to euthanize my kitten is destroying me I have a 6 month old kitten named Bubbles. He was originally a foster who had \u201cpneumonia\u201d but when he wasn\u2019t improving I adopted him so I could take over his medical care.   After seeing 4 vets, including specialists, multiple xrays, blood work, and cardiology appointments, it was determined that he has an entire host of congenital defects. His lungs completely lack blood flow in the front, his heart has a bad valve, he has bone marrow issues, and kidney issues.   The thing is, he behaves like he\u2019s perfectly fine. He plays and runs and jumps and purrs. He\u2019s adorable and full of fun. The vet said he behaves this way because his defects are all he\u2019s ever known so he is used to feeling bad. But the vet also said that as he grows, his body will struggle more and that he is a ticking time bomb for catastrophic health failure and that he likely wouldn\u2019t die instantly but suffer before we could get him to the vet. She said it\u2019s not if but when and could happen anytime.  I love him so much. I don\u2019t want to euthanize him. But he is becoming sexually mature and we can\u2019t neuter him because he wouldn\u2019t survive anesthesia. He\u2019s starting to get pissy to our other cats. But also, I\u2019m constantly afraid for him, I dread the moment that he begins to suffer and hurt. Every time he is out of my sight I wonder if he\u2019s in a corner gasping for air.  Some people in my life have said I should wait to euthanize until he is suffering. The vet said with all of his issues it is appropriate to euthanize at any point, and this has been confirmed by 4 other vets. My thinking is that I\u2019d rather his last day be a happy day and not one where he is in agony. I am considering calling the mobile vet to come to our house to euthanize in the next week or so.  I\u2019m literally gutted by this. I don\u2019t know what plan is right. He can\u2019t survive his issues and they can\u2019t be treated. Do I euthanize before he declines or give him every good day he can have?  I just need some words of wisdom. I\u2019m paralyzed by grief and indecision.", "c_root_id_A": "hcoy5jd", "c_root_id_B": "hcngzn0", "created_at_utc_A": 1631542415, "created_at_utc_B": 1631505197, "score_A": 7, "score_B": 3, "human_ref_A": "Quality of life over quantity of life.", "human_ref_B": "Be with him and love him until the end. When it\u2019s time he will let you know.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 37218.0, "score_ratio": 2.3333333333, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "pn6bw8", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "The decision to euthanize my kitten is destroying me I have a 6 month old kitten named Bubbles. He was originally a foster who had \u201cpneumonia\u201d but when he wasn\u2019t improving I adopted him so I could take over his medical care.   After seeing 4 vets, including specialists, multiple xrays, blood work, and cardiology appointments, it was determined that he has an entire host of congenital defects. His lungs completely lack blood flow in the front, his heart has a bad valve, he has bone marrow issues, and kidney issues.   The thing is, he behaves like he\u2019s perfectly fine. He plays and runs and jumps and purrs. He\u2019s adorable and full of fun. The vet said he behaves this way because his defects are all he\u2019s ever known so he is used to feeling bad. But the vet also said that as he grows, his body will struggle more and that he is a ticking time bomb for catastrophic health failure and that he likely wouldn\u2019t die instantly but suffer before we could get him to the vet. She said it\u2019s not if but when and could happen anytime.  I love him so much. I don\u2019t want to euthanize him. But he is becoming sexually mature and we can\u2019t neuter him because he wouldn\u2019t survive anesthesia. He\u2019s starting to get pissy to our other cats. But also, I\u2019m constantly afraid for him, I dread the moment that he begins to suffer and hurt. Every time he is out of my sight I wonder if he\u2019s in a corner gasping for air.  Some people in my life have said I should wait to euthanize until he is suffering. The vet said with all of his issues it is appropriate to euthanize at any point, and this has been confirmed by 4 other vets. My thinking is that I\u2019d rather his last day be a happy day and not one where he is in agony. I am considering calling the mobile vet to come to our house to euthanize in the next week or so.  I\u2019m literally gutted by this. I don\u2019t know what plan is right. He can\u2019t survive his issues and they can\u2019t be treated. Do I euthanize before he declines or give him every good day he can have?  I just need some words of wisdom. I\u2019m paralyzed by grief and indecision.", "c_root_id_A": "hcofcj0", "c_root_id_B": "hcoy5jd", "created_at_utc_A": 1631532240, "created_at_utc_B": 1631542415, "score_A": 0, "score_B": 7, "human_ref_A": "I'm so so sorry you are in this position! I have a pup called but bless and as hard as it is I've decided that whenever she's in too much pain I will put her down.  I know you're in a bad position but if he's in this much pain, and there's no fix we shouldn't keep him alive struggling every single day. please spend a week with him, give him his favorite foods, play with him, have him sleep with you and then get an appointment for him to be put down. burry him in your yard and make a small tombstone, take lots of videos and pictures of him to remember him by and hold him when they administer the injection. its gonna be ready though but this is something you'll have to get yourself to do!", "human_ref_B": "Quality of life over quantity of life.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 10175.0, "score_ratio": 7000.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "pn6bw8", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "The decision to euthanize my kitten is destroying me I have a 6 month old kitten named Bubbles. He was originally a foster who had \u201cpneumonia\u201d but when he wasn\u2019t improving I adopted him so I could take over his medical care.   After seeing 4 vets, including specialists, multiple xrays, blood work, and cardiology appointments, it was determined that he has an entire host of congenital defects. His lungs completely lack blood flow in the front, his heart has a bad valve, he has bone marrow issues, and kidney issues.   The thing is, he behaves like he\u2019s perfectly fine. He plays and runs and jumps and purrs. He\u2019s adorable and full of fun. The vet said he behaves this way because his defects are all he\u2019s ever known so he is used to feeling bad. But the vet also said that as he grows, his body will struggle more and that he is a ticking time bomb for catastrophic health failure and that he likely wouldn\u2019t die instantly but suffer before we could get him to the vet. She said it\u2019s not if but when and could happen anytime.  I love him so much. I don\u2019t want to euthanize him. But he is becoming sexually mature and we can\u2019t neuter him because he wouldn\u2019t survive anesthesia. He\u2019s starting to get pissy to our other cats. But also, I\u2019m constantly afraid for him, I dread the moment that he begins to suffer and hurt. Every time he is out of my sight I wonder if he\u2019s in a corner gasping for air.  Some people in my life have said I should wait to euthanize until he is suffering. The vet said with all of his issues it is appropriate to euthanize at any point, and this has been confirmed by 4 other vets. My thinking is that I\u2019d rather his last day be a happy day and not one where he is in agony. I am considering calling the mobile vet to come to our house to euthanize in the next week or so.  I\u2019m literally gutted by this. I don\u2019t know what plan is right. He can\u2019t survive his issues and they can\u2019t be treated. Do I euthanize before he declines or give him every good day he can have?  I just need some words of wisdom. I\u2019m paralyzed by grief and indecision.", "c_root_id_A": "hcofcj0", "c_root_id_B": "hcozv5o", "created_at_utc_A": 1631532240, "created_at_utc_B": 1631543162, "score_A": 0, "score_B": 3, "human_ref_A": "I'm so so sorry you are in this position! I have a pup called but bless and as hard as it is I've decided that whenever she's in too much pain I will put her down.  I know you're in a bad position but if he's in this much pain, and there's no fix we shouldn't keep him alive struggling every single day. please spend a week with him, give him his favorite foods, play with him, have him sleep with you and then get an appointment for him to be put down. burry him in your yard and make a small tombstone, take lots of videos and pictures of him to remember him by and hold him when they administer the injection. its gonna be ready though but this is something you'll have to get yourself to do!", "human_ref_B": "You just do what you feel is right. No one else can do it but you. You will know when the time is right, for you will feel it in your heart. He does have a lot against him, but if you are still willing to care for him in the meantime, do it till he lets you know it is time for him to go. You both have a connection. So sorry for his health issues. Do what your heart tells you.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 10922.0, "score_ratio": 3000.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "pn6bw8", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "The decision to euthanize my kitten is destroying me I have a 6 month old kitten named Bubbles. He was originally a foster who had \u201cpneumonia\u201d but when he wasn\u2019t improving I adopted him so I could take over his medical care.   After seeing 4 vets, including specialists, multiple xrays, blood work, and cardiology appointments, it was determined that he has an entire host of congenital defects. His lungs completely lack blood flow in the front, his heart has a bad valve, he has bone marrow issues, and kidney issues.   The thing is, he behaves like he\u2019s perfectly fine. He plays and runs and jumps and purrs. He\u2019s adorable and full of fun. The vet said he behaves this way because his defects are all he\u2019s ever known so he is used to feeling bad. But the vet also said that as he grows, his body will struggle more and that he is a ticking time bomb for catastrophic health failure and that he likely wouldn\u2019t die instantly but suffer before we could get him to the vet. She said it\u2019s not if but when and could happen anytime.  I love him so much. I don\u2019t want to euthanize him. But he is becoming sexually mature and we can\u2019t neuter him because he wouldn\u2019t survive anesthesia. He\u2019s starting to get pissy to our other cats. But also, I\u2019m constantly afraid for him, I dread the moment that he begins to suffer and hurt. Every time he is out of my sight I wonder if he\u2019s in a corner gasping for air.  Some people in my life have said I should wait to euthanize until he is suffering. The vet said with all of his issues it is appropriate to euthanize at any point, and this has been confirmed by 4 other vets. My thinking is that I\u2019d rather his last day be a happy day and not one where he is in agony. I am considering calling the mobile vet to come to our house to euthanize in the next week or so.  I\u2019m literally gutted by this. I don\u2019t know what plan is right. He can\u2019t survive his issues and they can\u2019t be treated. Do I euthanize before he declines or give him every good day he can have?  I just need some words of wisdom. I\u2019m paralyzed by grief and indecision.", "c_root_id_A": "hcpaev1", "c_root_id_B": "hcofcj0", "created_at_utc_A": 1631547578, "created_at_utc_B": 1631532240, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 0, "human_ref_A": "I\u2019m sorry. These situations are so brutal. I know it hurts, but the fact that you care so deeply and have sought out so many experts tells me that you\u2019ll make the right decision, what ever that decision ends up being.  Take care and give Bubbles all the love you can while he\u2019s still with you.  Edit: oops. I\u2019m not a vet. I understand if this is removed for breaking sub rules", "human_ref_B": "I'm so so sorry you are in this position! I have a pup called but bless and as hard as it is I've decided that whenever she's in too much pain I will put her down.  I know you're in a bad position but if he's in this much pain, and there's no fix we shouldn't keep him alive struggling every single day. please spend a week with him, give him his favorite foods, play with him, have him sleep with you and then get an appointment for him to be put down. burry him in your yard and make a small tombstone, take lots of videos and pictures of him to remember him by and hold him when they administer the injection. its gonna be ready though but this is something you'll have to get yourself to do!", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 15338.0, "score_ratio": 2000.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "pn6bw8", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "The decision to euthanize my kitten is destroying me I have a 6 month old kitten named Bubbles. He was originally a foster who had \u201cpneumonia\u201d but when he wasn\u2019t improving I adopted him so I could take over his medical care.   After seeing 4 vets, including specialists, multiple xrays, blood work, and cardiology appointments, it was determined that he has an entire host of congenital defects. His lungs completely lack blood flow in the front, his heart has a bad valve, he has bone marrow issues, and kidney issues.   The thing is, he behaves like he\u2019s perfectly fine. He plays and runs and jumps and purrs. He\u2019s adorable and full of fun. The vet said he behaves this way because his defects are all he\u2019s ever known so he is used to feeling bad. But the vet also said that as he grows, his body will struggle more and that he is a ticking time bomb for catastrophic health failure and that he likely wouldn\u2019t die instantly but suffer before we could get him to the vet. She said it\u2019s not if but when and could happen anytime.  I love him so much. I don\u2019t want to euthanize him. But he is becoming sexually mature and we can\u2019t neuter him because he wouldn\u2019t survive anesthesia. He\u2019s starting to get pissy to our other cats. But also, I\u2019m constantly afraid for him, I dread the moment that he begins to suffer and hurt. Every time he is out of my sight I wonder if he\u2019s in a corner gasping for air.  Some people in my life have said I should wait to euthanize until he is suffering. The vet said with all of his issues it is appropriate to euthanize at any point, and this has been confirmed by 4 other vets. My thinking is that I\u2019d rather his last day be a happy day and not one where he is in agony. I am considering calling the mobile vet to come to our house to euthanize in the next week or so.  I\u2019m literally gutted by this. I don\u2019t know what plan is right. He can\u2019t survive his issues and they can\u2019t be treated. Do I euthanize before he declines or give him every good day he can have?  I just need some words of wisdom. I\u2019m paralyzed by grief and indecision.", "c_root_id_A": "hcofcj0", "c_root_id_B": "hcpok9t", "created_at_utc_A": 1631532240, "created_at_utc_B": 1631553412, "score_A": 0, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I'm so so sorry you are in this position! I have a pup called but bless and as hard as it is I've decided that whenever she's in too much pain I will put her down.  I know you're in a bad position but if he's in this much pain, and there's no fix we shouldn't keep him alive struggling every single day. please spend a week with him, give him his favorite foods, play with him, have him sleep with you and then get an appointment for him to be put down. burry him in your yard and make a small tombstone, take lots of videos and pictures of him to remember him by and hold him when they administer the injection. its gonna be ready though but this is something you'll have to get yourself to do!", "human_ref_B": "This really sucks and I'm so sorry. Just my personal experience- my foster cat had fatal health issues that were just a matter of time. Unfortunately I didn't know beforehand, and only found out when he went from happy and content to absolutely miserable and dying in one night. If I had been able to know beforehand I would have rather let him go when he was happy and not have his last day one full of pain and chaos.   I'm so sorry you have to make this choice. Whatever you decide I know it will be with their best interest at heart.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 21172.0, "score_ratio": 1000.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "gs8av1", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Could a vet refuse to euthanize? We have a senior 13 yr old dog (poodle/bichon mix). It's confirmed he has a distended stomach and liver cancer, but he does not seem to be in pain -- during the day. At night, it's like being up with a new born child. Pacing, urinating everywhere. But during the day, he mostly sleeps and when you interact with him, his tail wags and he seems happy. Overall though, he seems to have more bad hours in the day than good.  I am at peace with the fact that he is at the end of his life. What I am afraid of is that if we suggest this to the vet, they will refuse to euthanize and now we are \"bad\" pet owners as we walk out the vet's door. In what cases would a vet refuse to perform life-ending service?", "c_root_id_A": "fs3ja78", "c_root_id_B": "fs3iirr", "created_at_utc_A": 1590679981, "created_at_utc_B": 1590679615, "score_A": 265, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I don't think that any vet would refuse euthanasia in a case like this at all as it is clearly in the interest of the patient. You're making a very brave and selfless decision for the good of your dog.  I have previously refused to perform a euthanasia when it wasn't in the interest of the patient, such as a young healthy dog that the owner didn't want any more. Instead we arranged for rehoming of that dog. That's my personal choice however and others may have differing opinions.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 366.0, "score_ratio": 265.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "gs8av1", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Could a vet refuse to euthanize? We have a senior 13 yr old dog (poodle/bichon mix). It's confirmed he has a distended stomach and liver cancer, but he does not seem to be in pain -- during the day. At night, it's like being up with a new born child. Pacing, urinating everywhere. But during the day, he mostly sleeps and when you interact with him, his tail wags and he seems happy. Overall though, he seems to have more bad hours in the day than good.  I am at peace with the fact that he is at the end of his life. What I am afraid of is that if we suggest this to the vet, they will refuse to euthanize and now we are \"bad\" pet owners as we walk out the vet's door. In what cases would a vet refuse to perform life-ending service?", "c_root_id_A": "fs41z87", "c_root_id_B": "fs3u4uz", "created_at_utc_A": 1590688654, "created_at_utc_B": 1590685009, "score_A": 20, "score_B": 19, "human_ref_A": "Veterinarians can refuse euthanasias if the pet is in good health but I would be extremely surprised if anyone turned you away, especially with a diagnosis like that one.  Im sorry that you may be losing your friend soon, may you both carry each other in your hearts for the rest of eternity\u2764\ufe0f", "human_ref_B": "They probably won't, especially considering that is sounds like he *is* at the end. Your vet \"knows best\" in the medical sense but you know your dog. If you think it's time, make the appointment and do whatever else you need to do before that time.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 3645.0, "score_ratio": 1.0526315789, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "gs8av1", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Could a vet refuse to euthanize? We have a senior 13 yr old dog (poodle/bichon mix). It's confirmed he has a distended stomach and liver cancer, but he does not seem to be in pain -- during the day. At night, it's like being up with a new born child. Pacing, urinating everywhere. But during the day, he mostly sleeps and when you interact with him, his tail wags and he seems happy. Overall though, he seems to have more bad hours in the day than good.  I am at peace with the fact that he is at the end of his life. What I am afraid of is that if we suggest this to the vet, they will refuse to euthanize and now we are \"bad\" pet owners as we walk out the vet's door. In what cases would a vet refuse to perform life-ending service?", "c_root_id_A": "fs41z87", "c_root_id_B": "fs3ycau", "created_at_utc_A": 1590688654, "created_at_utc_B": 1590686968, "score_A": 20, "score_B": 13, "human_ref_A": "Veterinarians can refuse euthanasias if the pet is in good health but I would be extremely surprised if anyone turned you away, especially with a diagnosis like that one.  Im sorry that you may be losing your friend soon, may you both carry each other in your hearts for the rest of eternity\u2764\ufe0f", "human_ref_B": "The vets I work for would not refuse in this situation. If your dog is having more bad days than good, then we all support your decision 100%.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 1686.0, "score_ratio": 1.5384615385, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "gs8av1", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Could a vet refuse to euthanize? We have a senior 13 yr old dog (poodle/bichon mix). It's confirmed he has a distended stomach and liver cancer, but he does not seem to be in pain -- during the day. At night, it's like being up with a new born child. Pacing, urinating everywhere. But during the day, he mostly sleeps and when you interact with him, his tail wags and he seems happy. Overall though, he seems to have more bad hours in the day than good.  I am at peace with the fact that he is at the end of his life. What I am afraid of is that if we suggest this to the vet, they will refuse to euthanize and now we are \"bad\" pet owners as we walk out the vet's door. In what cases would a vet refuse to perform life-ending service?", "c_root_id_A": "fs3iirr", "c_root_id_B": "fs41z87", "created_at_utc_A": 1590679615, "created_at_utc_B": 1590688654, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 20, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Veterinarians can refuse euthanasias if the pet is in good health but I would be extremely surprised if anyone turned you away, especially with a diagnosis like that one.  Im sorry that you may be losing your friend soon, may you both carry each other in your hearts for the rest of eternity\u2764\ufe0f", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 9039.0, "score_ratio": 20.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "gs8av1", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Could a vet refuse to euthanize? We have a senior 13 yr old dog (poodle/bichon mix). It's confirmed he has a distended stomach and liver cancer, but he does not seem to be in pain -- during the day. At night, it's like being up with a new born child. Pacing, urinating everywhere. But during the day, he mostly sleeps and when you interact with him, his tail wags and he seems happy. Overall though, he seems to have more bad hours in the day than good.  I am at peace with the fact that he is at the end of his life. What I am afraid of is that if we suggest this to the vet, they will refuse to euthanize and now we are \"bad\" pet owners as we walk out the vet's door. In what cases would a vet refuse to perform life-ending service?", "c_root_id_A": "fs3iirr", "c_root_id_B": "fs3u4uz", "created_at_utc_A": 1590679615, "created_at_utc_B": 1590685009, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 19, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "They probably won't, especially considering that is sounds like he *is* at the end. Your vet \"knows best\" in the medical sense but you know your dog. If you think it's time, make the appointment and do whatever else you need to do before that time.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 5394.0, "score_ratio": 19.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "gs8av1", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Could a vet refuse to euthanize? We have a senior 13 yr old dog (poodle/bichon mix). It's confirmed he has a distended stomach and liver cancer, but he does not seem to be in pain -- during the day. At night, it's like being up with a new born child. Pacing, urinating everywhere. But during the day, he mostly sleeps and when you interact with him, his tail wags and he seems happy. Overall though, he seems to have more bad hours in the day than good.  I am at peace with the fact that he is at the end of his life. What I am afraid of is that if we suggest this to the vet, they will refuse to euthanize and now we are \"bad\" pet owners as we walk out the vet's door. In what cases would a vet refuse to perform life-ending service?", "c_root_id_A": "fs3ycau", "c_root_id_B": "fs4fjzs", "created_at_utc_A": 1590686968, "created_at_utc_B": 1590695095, "score_A": 13, "score_B": 17, "human_ref_A": "The vets I work for would not refuse in this situation. If your dog is having more bad days than good, then we all support your decision 100%.", "human_ref_B": "Take a few videos of the behavior at night. If the vet believes there is something they can give to treat those symptoms, they will offer it. If there's nothing to be done, or if you try the treatment and it fails, they will euthanize. Quality of Life is an important part of the end of life discussion and it's a vet's duty to do what's right for their patients, including euthanasia when indicated.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 8127.0, "score_ratio": 1.3076923077, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "gs8av1", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Could a vet refuse to euthanize? We have a senior 13 yr old dog (poodle/bichon mix). It's confirmed he has a distended stomach and liver cancer, but he does not seem to be in pain -- during the day. At night, it's like being up with a new born child. Pacing, urinating everywhere. But during the day, he mostly sleeps and when you interact with him, his tail wags and he seems happy. Overall though, he seems to have more bad hours in the day than good.  I am at peace with the fact that he is at the end of his life. What I am afraid of is that if we suggest this to the vet, they will refuse to euthanize and now we are \"bad\" pet owners as we walk out the vet's door. In what cases would a vet refuse to perform life-ending service?", "c_root_id_A": "fs48gxw", "c_root_id_B": "fs4fjzs", "created_at_utc_A": 1590691726, "created_at_utc_B": 1590695095, "score_A": 9, "score_B": 17, "human_ref_A": "I'm so sorry for your impending loss. You're doing the right thing, it seems. I wish you peace as you grieve \u2764", "human_ref_B": "Take a few videos of the behavior at night. If the vet believes there is something they can give to treat those symptoms, they will offer it. If there's nothing to be done, or if you try the treatment and it fails, they will euthanize. Quality of Life is an important part of the end of life discussion and it's a vet's duty to do what's right for their patients, including euthanasia when indicated.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 3369.0, "score_ratio": 1.8888888889, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "gs8av1", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Could a vet refuse to euthanize? We have a senior 13 yr old dog (poodle/bichon mix). It's confirmed he has a distended stomach and liver cancer, but he does not seem to be in pain -- during the day. At night, it's like being up with a new born child. Pacing, urinating everywhere. But during the day, he mostly sleeps and when you interact with him, his tail wags and he seems happy. Overall though, he seems to have more bad hours in the day than good.  I am at peace with the fact that he is at the end of his life. What I am afraid of is that if we suggest this to the vet, they will refuse to euthanize and now we are \"bad\" pet owners as we walk out the vet's door. In what cases would a vet refuse to perform life-ending service?", "c_root_id_A": "fs45mvl", "c_root_id_B": "fs4fjzs", "created_at_utc_A": 1590690389, "created_at_utc_B": 1590695095, "score_A": 6, "score_B": 17, "human_ref_A": "As everyone else has said, I doubt any vet would refuse in this situation. All vets know that animals have good days and bad days when they're sick and at the end of their lives.  It's a difficult decision but as the person who spends the most time with their dog, it is your decision to make. I'm sorry you are going through this - I've been there and it's very difficult.", "human_ref_B": "Take a few videos of the behavior at night. If the vet believes there is something they can give to treat those symptoms, they will offer it. If there's nothing to be done, or if you try the treatment and it fails, they will euthanize. Quality of Life is an important part of the end of life discussion and it's a vet's duty to do what's right for their patients, including euthanasia when indicated.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 4706.0, "score_ratio": 2.8333333333, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "gs8av1", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Could a vet refuse to euthanize? We have a senior 13 yr old dog (poodle/bichon mix). It's confirmed he has a distended stomach and liver cancer, but he does not seem to be in pain -- during the day. At night, it's like being up with a new born child. Pacing, urinating everywhere. But during the day, he mostly sleeps and when you interact with him, his tail wags and he seems happy. Overall though, he seems to have more bad hours in the day than good.  I am at peace with the fact that he is at the end of his life. What I am afraid of is that if we suggest this to the vet, they will refuse to euthanize and now we are \"bad\" pet owners as we walk out the vet's door. In what cases would a vet refuse to perform life-ending service?", "c_root_id_A": "fs4fjzs", "c_root_id_B": "fs3iirr", "created_at_utc_A": 1590695095, "created_at_utc_B": 1590679615, "score_A": 17, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Take a few videos of the behavior at night. If the vet believes there is something they can give to treat those symptoms, they will offer it. If there's nothing to be done, or if you try the treatment and it fails, they will euthanize. Quality of Life is an important part of the end of life discussion and it's a vet's duty to do what's right for their patients, including euthanasia when indicated.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 15480.0, "score_ratio": 17.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "gs8av1", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Could a vet refuse to euthanize? We have a senior 13 yr old dog (poodle/bichon mix). It's confirmed he has a distended stomach and liver cancer, but he does not seem to be in pain -- during the day. At night, it's like being up with a new born child. Pacing, urinating everywhere. But during the day, he mostly sleeps and when you interact with him, his tail wags and he seems happy. Overall though, he seems to have more bad hours in the day than good.  I am at peace with the fact that he is at the end of his life. What I am afraid of is that if we suggest this to the vet, they will refuse to euthanize and now we are \"bad\" pet owners as we walk out the vet's door. In what cases would a vet refuse to perform life-ending service?", "c_root_id_A": "fs3iirr", "c_root_id_B": "fs3ycau", "created_at_utc_A": 1590679615, "created_at_utc_B": 1590686968, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 13, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "The vets I work for would not refuse in this situation. If your dog is having more bad days than good, then we all support your decision 100%.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 7353.0, "score_ratio": 13.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "gs8av1", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Could a vet refuse to euthanize? We have a senior 13 yr old dog (poodle/bichon mix). It's confirmed he has a distended stomach and liver cancer, but he does not seem to be in pain -- during the day. At night, it's like being up with a new born child. Pacing, urinating everywhere. But during the day, he mostly sleeps and when you interact with him, his tail wags and he seems happy. Overall though, he seems to have more bad hours in the day than good.  I am at peace with the fact that he is at the end of his life. What I am afraid of is that if we suggest this to the vet, they will refuse to euthanize and now we are \"bad\" pet owners as we walk out the vet's door. In what cases would a vet refuse to perform life-ending service?", "c_root_id_A": "fs48gxw", "c_root_id_B": "fs45mvl", "created_at_utc_A": 1590691726, "created_at_utc_B": 1590690389, "score_A": 9, "score_B": 6, "human_ref_A": "I'm so sorry for your impending loss. You're doing the right thing, it seems. I wish you peace as you grieve \u2764", "human_ref_B": "As everyone else has said, I doubt any vet would refuse in this situation. All vets know that animals have good days and bad days when they're sick and at the end of their lives.  It's a difficult decision but as the person who spends the most time with their dog, it is your decision to make. I'm sorry you are going through this - I've been there and it's very difficult.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 1337.0, "score_ratio": 1.5, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "gs8av1", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Could a vet refuse to euthanize? We have a senior 13 yr old dog (poodle/bichon mix). It's confirmed he has a distended stomach and liver cancer, but he does not seem to be in pain -- during the day. At night, it's like being up with a new born child. Pacing, urinating everywhere. But during the day, he mostly sleeps and when you interact with him, his tail wags and he seems happy. Overall though, he seems to have more bad hours in the day than good.  I am at peace with the fact that he is at the end of his life. What I am afraid of is that if we suggest this to the vet, they will refuse to euthanize and now we are \"bad\" pet owners as we walk out the vet's door. In what cases would a vet refuse to perform life-ending service?", "c_root_id_A": "fs48gxw", "c_root_id_B": "fs3iirr", "created_at_utc_A": 1590691726, "created_at_utc_B": 1590679615, "score_A": 9, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I'm so sorry for your impending loss. You're doing the right thing, it seems. I wish you peace as you grieve \u2764", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 12111.0, "score_ratio": 9.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "gs8av1", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Could a vet refuse to euthanize? We have a senior 13 yr old dog (poodle/bichon mix). It's confirmed he has a distended stomach and liver cancer, but he does not seem to be in pain -- during the day. At night, it's like being up with a new born child. Pacing, urinating everywhere. But during the day, he mostly sleeps and when you interact with him, his tail wags and he seems happy. Overall though, he seems to have more bad hours in the day than good.  I am at peace with the fact that he is at the end of his life. What I am afraid of is that if we suggest this to the vet, they will refuse to euthanize and now we are \"bad\" pet owners as we walk out the vet's door. In what cases would a vet refuse to perform life-ending service?", "c_root_id_A": "fs3iirr", "c_root_id_B": "fs45mvl", "created_at_utc_A": 1590679615, "created_at_utc_B": 1590690389, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 6, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "As everyone else has said, I doubt any vet would refuse in this situation. All vets know that animals have good days and bad days when they're sick and at the end of their lives.  It's a difficult decision but as the person who spends the most time with their dog, it is your decision to make. I'm sorry you are going through this - I've been there and it's very difficult.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 10774.0, "score_ratio": 6.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "gs8av1", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Could a vet refuse to euthanize? We have a senior 13 yr old dog (poodle/bichon mix). It's confirmed he has a distended stomach and liver cancer, but he does not seem to be in pain -- during the day. At night, it's like being up with a new born child. Pacing, urinating everywhere. But during the day, he mostly sleeps and when you interact with him, his tail wags and he seems happy. Overall though, he seems to have more bad hours in the day than good.  I am at peace with the fact that he is at the end of his life. What I am afraid of is that if we suggest this to the vet, they will refuse to euthanize and now we are \"bad\" pet owners as we walk out the vet's door. In what cases would a vet refuse to perform life-ending service?", "c_root_id_A": "fs4uf1k", "c_root_id_B": "fs3iirr", "created_at_utc_A": 1590702290, "created_at_utc_B": 1590679615, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "If it was a case of there being a good chance of improvement with proper medication, and you just couldn\u2019t be bothered doing a rigorous course, then they\u2019d probably refuse. In this case, I can\u2019t imagine they would, as it\u2019s your decision to make regarding his quality of life.  The only reason I mention the first bit is because an old vet of mine was recently asked to euthanise a dog with (I think) heart issues, that would likely totally or mostly resolve once he was medicated properly. The owners didn\u2019t want to keep up with the medication regimen, so asked for euthanasia. Instead the vet eventually convinced them to surrender him, since he was still a happy dog, young at about 3 years, and with a totally manageable condition, and now their head nurse is medicating and caring for him while they find him a new home. But these are totally different situations.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 22675.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "gustgq", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "My pretty boy has been hit by a car. He is at the vet but I just need some direction Species: Feline  Age: 5 years  Sex/Neuter status: Male, Neutered  Breed: Black Domestic Shorthair  Body weight: about 3kgs I might be wrong. I don't know. He is normal size....  History:He was hit by a car at 4pm. He was taken to the vet. He has been admitted. The vet on duty was such a sweet man and really helpful. I, however, am still unsure of what anything he said really meant. He said that my cat does not have any broken bones, he was in extreme shock had had bad pulmonary contusions. I can't remember if the vet said if he was going to be okay. I know the subreddit can't tell me he is going to be okay, but I just would like to find out how hopeful I can be? What can I expect? What is a pulmonary contusion?  Clinical signs: Pulmonary contusions  Duration:  Your general location:South Africa  Links to test results, vet reports, X-rays etc.,", "c_root_id_A": "fsknv2p", "c_root_id_B": "fskchv2", "created_at_utc_A": 1591050595, "created_at_utc_B": 1591044882, "score_A": 74, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I\u2019m really sorry this happened. Contusion is a medical term for bruise, which can be a little more complicated when it\u2019s a lung contusion because the lungs can fill up with fluid and affect the ability to breathe properly. If you\u2019re not at the vet office anymore, you shouldn\u2019t be afraid to call your vet back and explain that you would like to ask some more questions. Going through something like this can be shocking for you as well and make it difficult to understand and remember what\u2019s going on. As long as you\u2019re willing to be patient and wait for when the vet has a second to speak with you, they shouldn\u2019t mind going over some things with you again. Unfortunately, in cases like this even with examining the pet, it can be very difficult to tell what the outcome will be. Best of luck to you and your little guy.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 5713.0, "score_ratio": 74.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "gustgq", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "My pretty boy has been hit by a car. He is at the vet but I just need some direction Species: Feline  Age: 5 years  Sex/Neuter status: Male, Neutered  Breed: Black Domestic Shorthair  Body weight: about 3kgs I might be wrong. I don't know. He is normal size....  History:He was hit by a car at 4pm. He was taken to the vet. He has been admitted. The vet on duty was such a sweet man and really helpful. I, however, am still unsure of what anything he said really meant. He said that my cat does not have any broken bones, he was in extreme shock had had bad pulmonary contusions. I can't remember if the vet said if he was going to be okay. I know the subreddit can't tell me he is going to be okay, but I just would like to find out how hopeful I can be? What can I expect? What is a pulmonary contusion?  Clinical signs: Pulmonary contusions  Duration:  Your general location:South Africa  Links to test results, vet reports, X-rays etc.,", "c_root_id_A": "fsl89dv", "c_root_id_B": "fskchv2", "created_at_utc_A": 1591061739, "created_at_utc_B": 1591044882, "score_A": 34, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Just to add to the other comment. As with bruises on other parts of the body, there is no specific therapy for pulmonary contusions. They will get better with time. It's really just a question of how much supportive care your cat will need until that happens. Bruises tend to worsen before they get better, and are often at their worst after 2-3 days. When the contusions are mild we can just monitor. If they are severe and a patient is not getting enough oxygen, we often need to provide supplemental oxygen (in cats we usually use an oxygen cage). Sometimes supplemental oxygen is not enough, but we probably don't need to go into too much detail about the further options at this time. We all hate this but the prognosis really comes down to finances -- whether you are able/willing to make the financial commitment that comes with multiple days of high-level care (it can get expensive when patients are dependent upon supplemental oxygen). The other consideration when assessing prognosis is whether there are any other serious injuries. But it doesn't sound like that applies to your cat.  Is your cat in a 24 hour emergency hospital?", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 16857.0, "score_ratio": 34.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "gustgq", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "My pretty boy has been hit by a car. He is at the vet but I just need some direction Species: Feline  Age: 5 years  Sex/Neuter status: Male, Neutered  Breed: Black Domestic Shorthair  Body weight: about 3kgs I might be wrong. I don't know. He is normal size....  History:He was hit by a car at 4pm. He was taken to the vet. He has been admitted. The vet on duty was such a sweet man and really helpful. I, however, am still unsure of what anything he said really meant. He said that my cat does not have any broken bones, he was in extreme shock had had bad pulmonary contusions. I can't remember if the vet said if he was going to be okay. I know the subreddit can't tell me he is going to be okay, but I just would like to find out how hopeful I can be? What can I expect? What is a pulmonary contusion?  Clinical signs: Pulmonary contusions  Duration:  Your general location:South Africa  Links to test results, vet reports, X-rays etc.,", "c_root_id_A": "fslc4b9", "c_root_id_B": "fskchv2", "created_at_utc_A": 1591063919, "created_at_utc_B": 1591044882, "score_A": 12, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Don't be afraid to give the vet a call and ask for an update on his condition or to ask your questions.  For now you've done the best you can for your boy by making sure he gets veterinary treatment. Sending hugs and best wishes for a smooth recovery", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 19037.0, "score_ratio": 12.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xysqzu", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.96, "history": "Q from a human doctor: why are my dogs prescriptions so hard to fill? For context, I am a doctor (for humans) in the U.S. This is how I'm used to prescriptions working:  - A patient leaves the clinic with a prescription from me - Maybe the pharmacist filling it contacts me with a specific concern, or the patient contacts me to change the pharmacy on an electronic prescription - Other than that, neither I nor anyone else on the staff have any interaction with the prescription until the patient uses all the refills and requests more.  It seems to work differently in veterinary medicine and I feel like I'm missing something here that I just can't get right.  Problems filling prescriptions have led to my dog missing doses of various chronic medications over the years. It was even part of the reason I left her last clinic -- only to encounter the same problems at her new clinic.  Two main problems I've had:  (1) I will get a medication dispensed by her vet with x refills. One month later, I will call her clinic to refill it only to be told dispensing the refill will be delayed because the vet working that day has to approve it.  This may delay the refill by a day or two or it may actually not be approved at all. The vet may decide that my dog needs new labs before they'll fill it, or require a follow up appointment. Again, I am not requesting new refills, I am just trying to fill a refill that was already prescribed. Sometimes this will be a different vet in the same practice second-guessing their colleague, but sometimes it is even the same one who originally prescribed it.  (2) I will leave with a written prescription and provide it to an online veterinary pharmacy to fill. That pharmacy will not simply accept the written prescription and fill it, but instead contact the vet to confirm it.  This leads to the same delay as above. And sometimes the clinic may even reject authorizing a prescription they just gave me.   This seems so unnecessarily difficult. These are all routine prescriptions, not controlled medications.  For example, today, I tried to fill a written prescription for a 6 month supply of a flea/heartworm medication. The online pharmacy contacted the vet, and the receptionist rejected the request because my dog was due for a yearly heartworm test in 4 months. (Her vet had prescribed this knowing it was the case.)  I ended up talking to the office manager, who said they would allow me to fill the prescription on compassionate terms since my dog is not expected to live six months anyways (she has cancer, but paying for individual monthly doses of this medication is more expensive than getting a 6 month supply).  These are not ideal options, but the best ways to avoid missed doses that I've found have been: 1. Ask the vet to fill all the refills on the day the medication is prescribed. This is expensive, though, and may be a waste if my dog doesn't end up needing them all. 2. Ask the vet to call in the prescription to an outside pharmacy rather than give me a written prescription. But I've found they only really do this for compounded medications they don't dispense themselves.  I don't mean to compare veterinary medicine negatively to human medicine. Overall, I've had excellent experiences with my dog's vets and their staff. While denying my end-of-life dog flea medication on a technicality hit me as particularly capricious and cruel today, our human system in the U.S. is far more capricious and cruel towards our patients.  I also understand veterinarians are having a rough time in general lately, and get a lot of unfair flack, so I'd like to understand what's going on here rather than just blame them or their staff for my problems filling prescriptions.   Is there something basic I'm missing here? Is a prescription with refills not a settled matter in veterinary medicine? What am I getting wrong and how can I approach this more productively?", "c_root_id_A": "irihs8s", "c_root_id_B": "irit4hc", "created_at_utc_A": 1665235470, "created_at_utc_B": 1665241770, "score_A": -2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "I went ahead and locked this because you received a lot of good replies.  Long story short, you are experiencing one of many areas where vet med just hasn\u2019t caught up to human med yet.   We are already beginning to see automated refills and external linking to outside pharmacies like what happens in human medicine. I suspect in-house veterinary pharmacies will slowly be replaced by online; it\u2019s already happening. Veterinary laws are complicated when in comes to prescriptions as the veterinary-client-patient relationship (in most states) is between the vet and the client, not the client and the clinic.  Best bet is to get a refill well before you run out of medications and might be best to keep an extra bottle on hand for those situations where you aren\u2019t able to fill. In the current environment of regular out-of-stock medications, this is smart regardless. Speak with your vet about expectations for the medication being filled: regular blood work, examinations, etc. Consider online pharmacies where refills are automatic.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 6300.0, "score_ratio": -0.5, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xysqzu", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.96, "history": "Q from a human doctor: why are my dogs prescriptions so hard to fill? For context, I am a doctor (for humans) in the U.S. This is how I'm used to prescriptions working:  - A patient leaves the clinic with a prescription from me - Maybe the pharmacist filling it contacts me with a specific concern, or the patient contacts me to change the pharmacy on an electronic prescription - Other than that, neither I nor anyone else on the staff have any interaction with the prescription until the patient uses all the refills and requests more.  It seems to work differently in veterinary medicine and I feel like I'm missing something here that I just can't get right.  Problems filling prescriptions have led to my dog missing doses of various chronic medications over the years. It was even part of the reason I left her last clinic -- only to encounter the same problems at her new clinic.  Two main problems I've had:  (1) I will get a medication dispensed by her vet with x refills. One month later, I will call her clinic to refill it only to be told dispensing the refill will be delayed because the vet working that day has to approve it.  This may delay the refill by a day or two or it may actually not be approved at all. The vet may decide that my dog needs new labs before they'll fill it, or require a follow up appointment. Again, I am not requesting new refills, I am just trying to fill a refill that was already prescribed. Sometimes this will be a different vet in the same practice second-guessing their colleague, but sometimes it is even the same one who originally prescribed it.  (2) I will leave with a written prescription and provide it to an online veterinary pharmacy to fill. That pharmacy will not simply accept the written prescription and fill it, but instead contact the vet to confirm it.  This leads to the same delay as above. And sometimes the clinic may even reject authorizing a prescription they just gave me.   This seems so unnecessarily difficult. These are all routine prescriptions, not controlled medications.  For example, today, I tried to fill a written prescription for a 6 month supply of a flea/heartworm medication. The online pharmacy contacted the vet, and the receptionist rejected the request because my dog was due for a yearly heartworm test in 4 months. (Her vet had prescribed this knowing it was the case.)  I ended up talking to the office manager, who said they would allow me to fill the prescription on compassionate terms since my dog is not expected to live six months anyways (she has cancer, but paying for individual monthly doses of this medication is more expensive than getting a 6 month supply).  These are not ideal options, but the best ways to avoid missed doses that I've found have been: 1. Ask the vet to fill all the refills on the day the medication is prescribed. This is expensive, though, and may be a waste if my dog doesn't end up needing them all. 2. Ask the vet to call in the prescription to an outside pharmacy rather than give me a written prescription. But I've found they only really do this for compounded medications they don't dispense themselves.  I don't mean to compare veterinary medicine negatively to human medicine. Overall, I've had excellent experiences with my dog's vets and their staff. While denying my end-of-life dog flea medication on a technicality hit me as particularly capricious and cruel today, our human system in the U.S. is far more capricious and cruel towards our patients.  I also understand veterinarians are having a rough time in general lately, and get a lot of unfair flack, so I'd like to understand what's going on here rather than just blame them or their staff for my problems filling prescriptions.   Is there something basic I'm missing here? Is a prescription with refills not a settled matter in veterinary medicine? What am I getting wrong and how can I approach this more productively?", "c_root_id_A": "irik117", "c_root_id_B": "iriqdum", "created_at_utc_A": 1665236817, "created_at_utc_B": 1665240340, "score_A": 26, "score_B": 49, "human_ref_A": "For chronic medications, an exam every 6 months/blood work is needed.   In the cases where it is absolutely needed and we can\u2019t get the animal in ASAP, we\u2019ll refill enough to get them through until the appointment and make sure an appointment is scheduled. Technically, the last doctor who had seen the pet is the one that has to approve the refills but if absolutely needed, another doctor will review the case and sign off on it (but once again the doctor that has last seen the patient is the one that has to sign off in a non urgent situation).   It changes practice to practice, but if that was my practice with the prevention, we\u2019d allow it to be filled once with no refills, so I think it also changes slightly by practice.  Also, I\u2019ve noticed a lot of human pharmacies just don\u2019t know how to deal with pet meds. Vets don\u2019t have an NPI, they have a DEA number or they can use their license for non controlled substances. CVS is particularly bad I\u2019ve noticed with this and will have to call in. If we call in a prescription and have to leave a VM, we get a lot of calls with us needing to repeat information or if they can\u2019t read the handwriting (this happens with every pharmacy though).   Then you just run into the delays that have nothing to do with the veterinary clinic and just the pharmacy.   There\u2019s a lot of factors that are different from human med and this is just the tip of the iceberg.", "human_ref_B": "Sometimes it\u2019s a little CSR/assistant/doctor roulette. (I\u2019m a PM with almost 2 decades experience).   For example, I had this problem the other day with my team. My doctor prescribed a med (in-house) with 2 refills.  The owner called for a refill and the CSR didn\u2019t look to see if it already had an existing approval. The client was out of meds and needed it in the next 24 hours.   So the CSR put it back to the doctor for approval vs. being able to turn it over to the assistants/techs.  Since the doctor wasn\u2019t in, the med went a full 24 hours until it was approved because the CSR failed to mark it as an urgent request as well.   The doctor also didn\u2019t notice it had been sitting as long as it had, so it took another 6 hours+ until I noticed it on my tech\u2019s task list (I usually supervise these tasks to make sure they\u2019re getting done in a timely manner). Sadly, it had been ignored because again, it was not marked as an urgent task.   Once I caught wind of it I called the owner, filled it myself and had it ready, but had to remind the team (and doctor) to not just go on auto-pilot and actually take a moment or two extra to check all the important areas like, does it have refills, did the owner say they hVe enough meds, does it NEED any appointments now, when was the request made etc and be pro-active.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 3523.0, "score_ratio": 1.8846153846, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xysqzu", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.96, "history": "Q from a human doctor: why are my dogs prescriptions so hard to fill? For context, I am a doctor (for humans) in the U.S. This is how I'm used to prescriptions working:  - A patient leaves the clinic with a prescription from me - Maybe the pharmacist filling it contacts me with a specific concern, or the patient contacts me to change the pharmacy on an electronic prescription - Other than that, neither I nor anyone else on the staff have any interaction with the prescription until the patient uses all the refills and requests more.  It seems to work differently in veterinary medicine and I feel like I'm missing something here that I just can't get right.  Problems filling prescriptions have led to my dog missing doses of various chronic medications over the years. It was even part of the reason I left her last clinic -- only to encounter the same problems at her new clinic.  Two main problems I've had:  (1) I will get a medication dispensed by her vet with x refills. One month later, I will call her clinic to refill it only to be told dispensing the refill will be delayed because the vet working that day has to approve it.  This may delay the refill by a day or two or it may actually not be approved at all. The vet may decide that my dog needs new labs before they'll fill it, or require a follow up appointment. Again, I am not requesting new refills, I am just trying to fill a refill that was already prescribed. Sometimes this will be a different vet in the same practice second-guessing their colleague, but sometimes it is even the same one who originally prescribed it.  (2) I will leave with a written prescription and provide it to an online veterinary pharmacy to fill. That pharmacy will not simply accept the written prescription and fill it, but instead contact the vet to confirm it.  This leads to the same delay as above. And sometimes the clinic may even reject authorizing a prescription they just gave me.   This seems so unnecessarily difficult. These are all routine prescriptions, not controlled medications.  For example, today, I tried to fill a written prescription for a 6 month supply of a flea/heartworm medication. The online pharmacy contacted the vet, and the receptionist rejected the request because my dog was due for a yearly heartworm test in 4 months. (Her vet had prescribed this knowing it was the case.)  I ended up talking to the office manager, who said they would allow me to fill the prescription on compassionate terms since my dog is not expected to live six months anyways (she has cancer, but paying for individual monthly doses of this medication is more expensive than getting a 6 month supply).  These are not ideal options, but the best ways to avoid missed doses that I've found have been: 1. Ask the vet to fill all the refills on the day the medication is prescribed. This is expensive, though, and may be a waste if my dog doesn't end up needing them all. 2. Ask the vet to call in the prescription to an outside pharmacy rather than give me a written prescription. But I've found they only really do this for compounded medications they don't dispense themselves.  I don't mean to compare veterinary medicine negatively to human medicine. Overall, I've had excellent experiences with my dog's vets and their staff. While denying my end-of-life dog flea medication on a technicality hit me as particularly capricious and cruel today, our human system in the U.S. is far more capricious and cruel towards our patients.  I also understand veterinarians are having a rough time in general lately, and get a lot of unfair flack, so I'd like to understand what's going on here rather than just blame them or their staff for my problems filling prescriptions.   Is there something basic I'm missing here? Is a prescription with refills not a settled matter in veterinary medicine? What am I getting wrong and how can I approach this more productively?", "c_root_id_A": "irikulh", "c_root_id_B": "iriqdum", "created_at_utc_A": 1665237299, "created_at_utc_B": 1665240340, "score_A": 7, "score_B": 49, "human_ref_A": "If you do not have a veterinarian client patient relationship with the vet on staff that day it is illegal to refill meds for animals you have not personally examined.   Giving medication like NSAID\u2019s or anticonvulsant (phenobarbital) - just two examples off the top of my head - can cause possible organ damage over time just like in human medicine. Think of it in terms of that when they are wanting an exam and recheck labs before refilling your scripts.   Working at a vet clinic recently we have seen similar changes to online pharmacies like chewy where they are going digital and straying from paper prescriptions. Recently we had someone call who had a fax verification from us but chewy still would not accept it without first verifying with us. Not saying it is their fault just different than what you\u2019re probably used to.   Giving flea/tick/Hw prevention without knowing your animal is heart worm negative can actually hurt them. That\u2019s why they want the recheck before refilling this.   Any good vets will not fill all refills at once even if non controlled drugs, this barrs any chance they may have at doing the rechecks necessary to make sure those meds are still safe for your pet in the future. It also is likely illegal to do so.   Just my two cents as a CVT", "human_ref_B": "Sometimes it\u2019s a little CSR/assistant/doctor roulette. (I\u2019m a PM with almost 2 decades experience).   For example, I had this problem the other day with my team. My doctor prescribed a med (in-house) with 2 refills.  The owner called for a refill and the CSR didn\u2019t look to see if it already had an existing approval. The client was out of meds and needed it in the next 24 hours.   So the CSR put it back to the doctor for approval vs. being able to turn it over to the assistants/techs.  Since the doctor wasn\u2019t in, the med went a full 24 hours until it was approved because the CSR failed to mark it as an urgent request as well.   The doctor also didn\u2019t notice it had been sitting as long as it had, so it took another 6 hours+ until I noticed it on my tech\u2019s task list (I usually supervise these tasks to make sure they\u2019re getting done in a timely manner). Sadly, it had been ignored because again, it was not marked as an urgent task.   Once I caught wind of it I called the owner, filled it myself and had it ready, but had to remind the team (and doctor) to not just go on auto-pilot and actually take a moment or two extra to check all the important areas like, does it have refills, did the owner say they hVe enough meds, does it NEED any appointments now, when was the request made etc and be pro-active.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 3041.0, "score_ratio": 7.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xysqzu", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.96, "history": "Q from a human doctor: why are my dogs prescriptions so hard to fill? For context, I am a doctor (for humans) in the U.S. This is how I'm used to prescriptions working:  - A patient leaves the clinic with a prescription from me - Maybe the pharmacist filling it contacts me with a specific concern, or the patient contacts me to change the pharmacy on an electronic prescription - Other than that, neither I nor anyone else on the staff have any interaction with the prescription until the patient uses all the refills and requests more.  It seems to work differently in veterinary medicine and I feel like I'm missing something here that I just can't get right.  Problems filling prescriptions have led to my dog missing doses of various chronic medications over the years. It was even part of the reason I left her last clinic -- only to encounter the same problems at her new clinic.  Two main problems I've had:  (1) I will get a medication dispensed by her vet with x refills. One month later, I will call her clinic to refill it only to be told dispensing the refill will be delayed because the vet working that day has to approve it.  This may delay the refill by a day or two or it may actually not be approved at all. The vet may decide that my dog needs new labs before they'll fill it, or require a follow up appointment. Again, I am not requesting new refills, I am just trying to fill a refill that was already prescribed. Sometimes this will be a different vet in the same practice second-guessing their colleague, but sometimes it is even the same one who originally prescribed it.  (2) I will leave with a written prescription and provide it to an online veterinary pharmacy to fill. That pharmacy will not simply accept the written prescription and fill it, but instead contact the vet to confirm it.  This leads to the same delay as above. And sometimes the clinic may even reject authorizing a prescription they just gave me.   This seems so unnecessarily difficult. These are all routine prescriptions, not controlled medications.  For example, today, I tried to fill a written prescription for a 6 month supply of a flea/heartworm medication. The online pharmacy contacted the vet, and the receptionist rejected the request because my dog was due for a yearly heartworm test in 4 months. (Her vet had prescribed this knowing it was the case.)  I ended up talking to the office manager, who said they would allow me to fill the prescription on compassionate terms since my dog is not expected to live six months anyways (she has cancer, but paying for individual monthly doses of this medication is more expensive than getting a 6 month supply).  These are not ideal options, but the best ways to avoid missed doses that I've found have been: 1. Ask the vet to fill all the refills on the day the medication is prescribed. This is expensive, though, and may be a waste if my dog doesn't end up needing them all. 2. Ask the vet to call in the prescription to an outside pharmacy rather than give me a written prescription. But I've found they only really do this for compounded medications they don't dispense themselves.  I don't mean to compare veterinary medicine negatively to human medicine. Overall, I've had excellent experiences with my dog's vets and their staff. While denying my end-of-life dog flea medication on a technicality hit me as particularly capricious and cruel today, our human system in the U.S. is far more capricious and cruel towards our patients.  I also understand veterinarians are having a rough time in general lately, and get a lot of unfair flack, so I'd like to understand what's going on here rather than just blame them or their staff for my problems filling prescriptions.   Is there something basic I'm missing here? Is a prescription with refills not a settled matter in veterinary medicine? What am I getting wrong and how can I approach this more productively?", "c_root_id_A": "iriqdum", "c_root_id_B": "irimj7b", "created_at_utc_A": 1665240340, "created_at_utc_B": 1665238269, "score_A": 49, "score_B": 5, "human_ref_A": "Sometimes it\u2019s a little CSR/assistant/doctor roulette. (I\u2019m a PM with almost 2 decades experience).   For example, I had this problem the other day with my team. My doctor prescribed a med (in-house) with 2 refills.  The owner called for a refill and the CSR didn\u2019t look to see if it already had an existing approval. The client was out of meds and needed it in the next 24 hours.   So the CSR put it back to the doctor for approval vs. being able to turn it over to the assistants/techs.  Since the doctor wasn\u2019t in, the med went a full 24 hours until it was approved because the CSR failed to mark it as an urgent request as well.   The doctor also didn\u2019t notice it had been sitting as long as it had, so it took another 6 hours+ until I noticed it on my tech\u2019s task list (I usually supervise these tasks to make sure they\u2019re getting done in a timely manner). Sadly, it had been ignored because again, it was not marked as an urgent task.   Once I caught wind of it I called the owner, filled it myself and had it ready, but had to remind the team (and doctor) to not just go on auto-pilot and actually take a moment or two extra to check all the important areas like, does it have refills, did the owner say they hVe enough meds, does it NEED any appointments now, when was the request made etc and be pro-active.", "human_ref_B": "The real answer here is that it is absurd. If you are written a 6 month prescription, you should be able to refill through those 6 months without issue. That is literally how prescriptions are supposed to work. Some vets are better than others.  As an owner of a dog with multiple chronic conditions, the best bet is to find an office that is veterinarian owned so that you get continuity in care. Explain directly to the vet owner why you want 3 or 6 months filled at one time. They are far more likely to work with you. If you get a 6 month prescription at a franchise like VCA and the vet leaves after a month, they will often make you come in and pay 160+ for an exam that you just had 30 days ago.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 2071.0, "score_ratio": 9.8, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xysqzu", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.96, "history": "Q from a human doctor: why are my dogs prescriptions so hard to fill? For context, I am a doctor (for humans) in the U.S. This is how I'm used to prescriptions working:  - A patient leaves the clinic with a prescription from me - Maybe the pharmacist filling it contacts me with a specific concern, or the patient contacts me to change the pharmacy on an electronic prescription - Other than that, neither I nor anyone else on the staff have any interaction with the prescription until the patient uses all the refills and requests more.  It seems to work differently in veterinary medicine and I feel like I'm missing something here that I just can't get right.  Problems filling prescriptions have led to my dog missing doses of various chronic medications over the years. It was even part of the reason I left her last clinic -- only to encounter the same problems at her new clinic.  Two main problems I've had:  (1) I will get a medication dispensed by her vet with x refills. One month later, I will call her clinic to refill it only to be told dispensing the refill will be delayed because the vet working that day has to approve it.  This may delay the refill by a day or two or it may actually not be approved at all. The vet may decide that my dog needs new labs before they'll fill it, or require a follow up appointment. Again, I am not requesting new refills, I am just trying to fill a refill that was already prescribed. Sometimes this will be a different vet in the same practice second-guessing their colleague, but sometimes it is even the same one who originally prescribed it.  (2) I will leave with a written prescription and provide it to an online veterinary pharmacy to fill. That pharmacy will not simply accept the written prescription and fill it, but instead contact the vet to confirm it.  This leads to the same delay as above. And sometimes the clinic may even reject authorizing a prescription they just gave me.   This seems so unnecessarily difficult. These are all routine prescriptions, not controlled medications.  For example, today, I tried to fill a written prescription for a 6 month supply of a flea/heartworm medication. The online pharmacy contacted the vet, and the receptionist rejected the request because my dog was due for a yearly heartworm test in 4 months. (Her vet had prescribed this knowing it was the case.)  I ended up talking to the office manager, who said they would allow me to fill the prescription on compassionate terms since my dog is not expected to live six months anyways (she has cancer, but paying for individual monthly doses of this medication is more expensive than getting a 6 month supply).  These are not ideal options, but the best ways to avoid missed doses that I've found have been: 1. Ask the vet to fill all the refills on the day the medication is prescribed. This is expensive, though, and may be a waste if my dog doesn't end up needing them all. 2. Ask the vet to call in the prescription to an outside pharmacy rather than give me a written prescription. But I've found they only really do this for compounded medications they don't dispense themselves.  I don't mean to compare veterinary medicine negatively to human medicine. Overall, I've had excellent experiences with my dog's vets and their staff. While denying my end-of-life dog flea medication on a technicality hit me as particularly capricious and cruel today, our human system in the U.S. is far more capricious and cruel towards our patients.  I also understand veterinarians are having a rough time in general lately, and get a lot of unfair flack, so I'd like to understand what's going on here rather than just blame them or their staff for my problems filling prescriptions.   Is there something basic I'm missing here? Is a prescription with refills not a settled matter in veterinary medicine? What am I getting wrong and how can I approach this more productively?", "c_root_id_A": "iriqdum", "c_root_id_B": "irihs8s", "created_at_utc_A": 1665240340, "created_at_utc_B": 1665235470, "score_A": 49, "score_B": -2, "human_ref_A": "Sometimes it\u2019s a little CSR/assistant/doctor roulette. (I\u2019m a PM with almost 2 decades experience).   For example, I had this problem the other day with my team. My doctor prescribed a med (in-house) with 2 refills.  The owner called for a refill and the CSR didn\u2019t look to see if it already had an existing approval. The client was out of meds and needed it in the next 24 hours.   So the CSR put it back to the doctor for approval vs. being able to turn it over to the assistants/techs.  Since the doctor wasn\u2019t in, the med went a full 24 hours until it was approved because the CSR failed to mark it as an urgent request as well.   The doctor also didn\u2019t notice it had been sitting as long as it had, so it took another 6 hours+ until I noticed it on my tech\u2019s task list (I usually supervise these tasks to make sure they\u2019re getting done in a timely manner). Sadly, it had been ignored because again, it was not marked as an urgent task.   Once I caught wind of it I called the owner, filled it myself and had it ready, but had to remind the team (and doctor) to not just go on auto-pilot and actually take a moment or two extra to check all the important areas like, does it have refills, did the owner say they hVe enough meds, does it NEED any appointments now, when was the request made etc and be pro-active.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 4870.0, "score_ratio": -24.5, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xysqzu", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.96, "history": "Q from a human doctor: why are my dogs prescriptions so hard to fill? For context, I am a doctor (for humans) in the U.S. This is how I'm used to prescriptions working:  - A patient leaves the clinic with a prescription from me - Maybe the pharmacist filling it contacts me with a specific concern, or the patient contacts me to change the pharmacy on an electronic prescription - Other than that, neither I nor anyone else on the staff have any interaction with the prescription until the patient uses all the refills and requests more.  It seems to work differently in veterinary medicine and I feel like I'm missing something here that I just can't get right.  Problems filling prescriptions have led to my dog missing doses of various chronic medications over the years. It was even part of the reason I left her last clinic -- only to encounter the same problems at her new clinic.  Two main problems I've had:  (1) I will get a medication dispensed by her vet with x refills. One month later, I will call her clinic to refill it only to be told dispensing the refill will be delayed because the vet working that day has to approve it.  This may delay the refill by a day or two or it may actually not be approved at all. The vet may decide that my dog needs new labs before they'll fill it, or require a follow up appointment. Again, I am not requesting new refills, I am just trying to fill a refill that was already prescribed. Sometimes this will be a different vet in the same practice second-guessing their colleague, but sometimes it is even the same one who originally prescribed it.  (2) I will leave with a written prescription and provide it to an online veterinary pharmacy to fill. That pharmacy will not simply accept the written prescription and fill it, but instead contact the vet to confirm it.  This leads to the same delay as above. And sometimes the clinic may even reject authorizing a prescription they just gave me.   This seems so unnecessarily difficult. These are all routine prescriptions, not controlled medications.  For example, today, I tried to fill a written prescription for a 6 month supply of a flea/heartworm medication. The online pharmacy contacted the vet, and the receptionist rejected the request because my dog was due for a yearly heartworm test in 4 months. (Her vet had prescribed this knowing it was the case.)  I ended up talking to the office manager, who said they would allow me to fill the prescription on compassionate terms since my dog is not expected to live six months anyways (she has cancer, but paying for individual monthly doses of this medication is more expensive than getting a 6 month supply).  These are not ideal options, but the best ways to avoid missed doses that I've found have been: 1. Ask the vet to fill all the refills on the day the medication is prescribed. This is expensive, though, and may be a waste if my dog doesn't end up needing them all. 2. Ask the vet to call in the prescription to an outside pharmacy rather than give me a written prescription. But I've found they only really do this for compounded medications they don't dispense themselves.  I don't mean to compare veterinary medicine negatively to human medicine. Overall, I've had excellent experiences with my dog's vets and their staff. While denying my end-of-life dog flea medication on a technicality hit me as particularly capricious and cruel today, our human system in the U.S. is far more capricious and cruel towards our patients.  I also understand veterinarians are having a rough time in general lately, and get a lot of unfair flack, so I'd like to understand what's going on here rather than just blame them or their staff for my problems filling prescriptions.   Is there something basic I'm missing here? Is a prescription with refills not a settled matter in veterinary medicine? What am I getting wrong and how can I approach this more productively?", "c_root_id_A": "irik117", "c_root_id_B": "iriqngu", "created_at_utc_A": 1665236817, "created_at_utc_B": 1665240482, "score_A": 26, "score_B": 27, "human_ref_A": "For chronic medications, an exam every 6 months/blood work is needed.   In the cases where it is absolutely needed and we can\u2019t get the animal in ASAP, we\u2019ll refill enough to get them through until the appointment and make sure an appointment is scheduled. Technically, the last doctor who had seen the pet is the one that has to approve the refills but if absolutely needed, another doctor will review the case and sign off on it (but once again the doctor that has last seen the patient is the one that has to sign off in a non urgent situation).   It changes practice to practice, but if that was my practice with the prevention, we\u2019d allow it to be filled once with no refills, so I think it also changes slightly by practice.  Also, I\u2019ve noticed a lot of human pharmacies just don\u2019t know how to deal with pet meds. Vets don\u2019t have an NPI, they have a DEA number or they can use their license for non controlled substances. CVS is particularly bad I\u2019ve noticed with this and will have to call in. If we call in a prescription and have to leave a VM, we get a lot of calls with us needing to repeat information or if they can\u2019t read the handwriting (this happens with every pharmacy though).   Then you just run into the delays that have nothing to do with the veterinary clinic and just the pharmacy.   There\u2019s a lot of factors that are different from human med and this is just the tip of the iceberg.", "human_ref_B": "Because the vet isn't just the primary doctor, they're also the pharmacist in this situation. In human medicine, the primary doctor prescribes then the pharmacist is the one that reviews the prescription to do the dispensing. And at refill time the pharmacist reviews the prescription to ensure the refill can be done. In the vet world, the vet is the primary doctor and the pharmacist, therefore at refill time the vet has the approve the refill like a pharmacist would in the human scenario. Essentially in human medicine the responsibilities have been divided between the doctor and the pharmacist, but in vet medicine the responsibilities are solely on the vet. That is a major discrepancy between the two medical fields.  Also, at the clinics I've worked at have always put on label that refills take 24 hours to be done even on chronic medications. Since you're acknowledging that there is this delay, a solution is to ask for a refill 1 week prior to the medication running out and therefore any potential delay hopefully won't cause any missed doses.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 3665.0, "score_ratio": 1.0384615385, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xysqzu", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.96, "history": "Q from a human doctor: why are my dogs prescriptions so hard to fill? For context, I am a doctor (for humans) in the U.S. This is how I'm used to prescriptions working:  - A patient leaves the clinic with a prescription from me - Maybe the pharmacist filling it contacts me with a specific concern, or the patient contacts me to change the pharmacy on an electronic prescription - Other than that, neither I nor anyone else on the staff have any interaction with the prescription until the patient uses all the refills and requests more.  It seems to work differently in veterinary medicine and I feel like I'm missing something here that I just can't get right.  Problems filling prescriptions have led to my dog missing doses of various chronic medications over the years. It was even part of the reason I left her last clinic -- only to encounter the same problems at her new clinic.  Two main problems I've had:  (1) I will get a medication dispensed by her vet with x refills. One month later, I will call her clinic to refill it only to be told dispensing the refill will be delayed because the vet working that day has to approve it.  This may delay the refill by a day or two or it may actually not be approved at all. The vet may decide that my dog needs new labs before they'll fill it, or require a follow up appointment. Again, I am not requesting new refills, I am just trying to fill a refill that was already prescribed. Sometimes this will be a different vet in the same practice second-guessing their colleague, but sometimes it is even the same one who originally prescribed it.  (2) I will leave with a written prescription and provide it to an online veterinary pharmacy to fill. That pharmacy will not simply accept the written prescription and fill it, but instead contact the vet to confirm it.  This leads to the same delay as above. And sometimes the clinic may even reject authorizing a prescription they just gave me.   This seems so unnecessarily difficult. These are all routine prescriptions, not controlled medications.  For example, today, I tried to fill a written prescription for a 6 month supply of a flea/heartworm medication. The online pharmacy contacted the vet, and the receptionist rejected the request because my dog was due for a yearly heartworm test in 4 months. (Her vet had prescribed this knowing it was the case.)  I ended up talking to the office manager, who said they would allow me to fill the prescription on compassionate terms since my dog is not expected to live six months anyways (she has cancer, but paying for individual monthly doses of this medication is more expensive than getting a 6 month supply).  These are not ideal options, but the best ways to avoid missed doses that I've found have been: 1. Ask the vet to fill all the refills on the day the medication is prescribed. This is expensive, though, and may be a waste if my dog doesn't end up needing them all. 2. Ask the vet to call in the prescription to an outside pharmacy rather than give me a written prescription. But I've found they only really do this for compounded medications they don't dispense themselves.  I don't mean to compare veterinary medicine negatively to human medicine. Overall, I've had excellent experiences with my dog's vets and their staff. While denying my end-of-life dog flea medication on a technicality hit me as particularly capricious and cruel today, our human system in the U.S. is far more capricious and cruel towards our patients.  I also understand veterinarians are having a rough time in general lately, and get a lot of unfair flack, so I'd like to understand what's going on here rather than just blame them or their staff for my problems filling prescriptions.   Is there something basic I'm missing here? Is a prescription with refills not a settled matter in veterinary medicine? What am I getting wrong and how can I approach this more productively?", "c_root_id_A": "irik117", "c_root_id_B": "irihs8s", "created_at_utc_A": 1665236817, "created_at_utc_B": 1665235470, "score_A": 26, "score_B": -2, "human_ref_A": "For chronic medications, an exam every 6 months/blood work is needed.   In the cases where it is absolutely needed and we can\u2019t get the animal in ASAP, we\u2019ll refill enough to get them through until the appointment and make sure an appointment is scheduled. Technically, the last doctor who had seen the pet is the one that has to approve the refills but if absolutely needed, another doctor will review the case and sign off on it (but once again the doctor that has last seen the patient is the one that has to sign off in a non urgent situation).   It changes practice to practice, but if that was my practice with the prevention, we\u2019d allow it to be filled once with no refills, so I think it also changes slightly by practice.  Also, I\u2019ve noticed a lot of human pharmacies just don\u2019t know how to deal with pet meds. Vets don\u2019t have an NPI, they have a DEA number or they can use their license for non controlled substances. CVS is particularly bad I\u2019ve noticed with this and will have to call in. If we call in a prescription and have to leave a VM, we get a lot of calls with us needing to repeat information or if they can\u2019t read the handwriting (this happens with every pharmacy though).   Then you just run into the delays that have nothing to do with the veterinary clinic and just the pharmacy.   There\u2019s a lot of factors that are different from human med and this is just the tip of the iceberg.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 1347.0, "score_ratio": -13.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xysqzu", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.96, "history": "Q from a human doctor: why are my dogs prescriptions so hard to fill? For context, I am a doctor (for humans) in the U.S. This is how I'm used to prescriptions working:  - A patient leaves the clinic with a prescription from me - Maybe the pharmacist filling it contacts me with a specific concern, or the patient contacts me to change the pharmacy on an electronic prescription - Other than that, neither I nor anyone else on the staff have any interaction with the prescription until the patient uses all the refills and requests more.  It seems to work differently in veterinary medicine and I feel like I'm missing something here that I just can't get right.  Problems filling prescriptions have led to my dog missing doses of various chronic medications over the years. It was even part of the reason I left her last clinic -- only to encounter the same problems at her new clinic.  Two main problems I've had:  (1) I will get a medication dispensed by her vet with x refills. One month later, I will call her clinic to refill it only to be told dispensing the refill will be delayed because the vet working that day has to approve it.  This may delay the refill by a day or two or it may actually not be approved at all. The vet may decide that my dog needs new labs before they'll fill it, or require a follow up appointment. Again, I am not requesting new refills, I am just trying to fill a refill that was already prescribed. Sometimes this will be a different vet in the same practice second-guessing their colleague, but sometimes it is even the same one who originally prescribed it.  (2) I will leave with a written prescription and provide it to an online veterinary pharmacy to fill. That pharmacy will not simply accept the written prescription and fill it, but instead contact the vet to confirm it.  This leads to the same delay as above. And sometimes the clinic may even reject authorizing a prescription they just gave me.   This seems so unnecessarily difficult. These are all routine prescriptions, not controlled medications.  For example, today, I tried to fill a written prescription for a 6 month supply of a flea/heartworm medication. The online pharmacy contacted the vet, and the receptionist rejected the request because my dog was due for a yearly heartworm test in 4 months. (Her vet had prescribed this knowing it was the case.)  I ended up talking to the office manager, who said they would allow me to fill the prescription on compassionate terms since my dog is not expected to live six months anyways (she has cancer, but paying for individual monthly doses of this medication is more expensive than getting a 6 month supply).  These are not ideal options, but the best ways to avoid missed doses that I've found have been: 1. Ask the vet to fill all the refills on the day the medication is prescribed. This is expensive, though, and may be a waste if my dog doesn't end up needing them all. 2. Ask the vet to call in the prescription to an outside pharmacy rather than give me a written prescription. But I've found they only really do this for compounded medications they don't dispense themselves.  I don't mean to compare veterinary medicine negatively to human medicine. Overall, I've had excellent experiences with my dog's vets and their staff. While denying my end-of-life dog flea medication on a technicality hit me as particularly capricious and cruel today, our human system in the U.S. is far more capricious and cruel towards our patients.  I also understand veterinarians are having a rough time in general lately, and get a lot of unfair flack, so I'd like to understand what's going on here rather than just blame them or their staff for my problems filling prescriptions.   Is there something basic I'm missing here? Is a prescription with refills not a settled matter in veterinary medicine? What am I getting wrong and how can I approach this more productively?", "c_root_id_A": "iriqngu", "c_root_id_B": "irikulh", "created_at_utc_A": 1665240482, "created_at_utc_B": 1665237299, "score_A": 27, "score_B": 7, "human_ref_A": "Because the vet isn't just the primary doctor, they're also the pharmacist in this situation. In human medicine, the primary doctor prescribes then the pharmacist is the one that reviews the prescription to do the dispensing. And at refill time the pharmacist reviews the prescription to ensure the refill can be done. In the vet world, the vet is the primary doctor and the pharmacist, therefore at refill time the vet has the approve the refill like a pharmacist would in the human scenario. Essentially in human medicine the responsibilities have been divided between the doctor and the pharmacist, but in vet medicine the responsibilities are solely on the vet. That is a major discrepancy between the two medical fields.  Also, at the clinics I've worked at have always put on label that refills take 24 hours to be done even on chronic medications. Since you're acknowledging that there is this delay, a solution is to ask for a refill 1 week prior to the medication running out and therefore any potential delay hopefully won't cause any missed doses.", "human_ref_B": "If you do not have a veterinarian client patient relationship with the vet on staff that day it is illegal to refill meds for animals you have not personally examined.   Giving medication like NSAID\u2019s or anticonvulsant (phenobarbital) - just two examples off the top of my head - can cause possible organ damage over time just like in human medicine. Think of it in terms of that when they are wanting an exam and recheck labs before refilling your scripts.   Working at a vet clinic recently we have seen similar changes to online pharmacies like chewy where they are going digital and straying from paper prescriptions. Recently we had someone call who had a fax verification from us but chewy still would not accept it without first verifying with us. Not saying it is their fault just different than what you\u2019re probably used to.   Giving flea/tick/Hw prevention without knowing your animal is heart worm negative can actually hurt them. That\u2019s why they want the recheck before refilling this.   Any good vets will not fill all refills at once even if non controlled drugs, this barrs any chance they may have at doing the rechecks necessary to make sure those meds are still safe for your pet in the future. It also is likely illegal to do so.   Just my two cents as a CVT", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 3183.0, "score_ratio": 3.8571428571, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xysqzu", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.96, "history": "Q from a human doctor: why are my dogs prescriptions so hard to fill? For context, I am a doctor (for humans) in the U.S. This is how I'm used to prescriptions working:  - A patient leaves the clinic with a prescription from me - Maybe the pharmacist filling it contacts me with a specific concern, or the patient contacts me to change the pharmacy on an electronic prescription - Other than that, neither I nor anyone else on the staff have any interaction with the prescription until the patient uses all the refills and requests more.  It seems to work differently in veterinary medicine and I feel like I'm missing something here that I just can't get right.  Problems filling prescriptions have led to my dog missing doses of various chronic medications over the years. It was even part of the reason I left her last clinic -- only to encounter the same problems at her new clinic.  Two main problems I've had:  (1) I will get a medication dispensed by her vet with x refills. One month later, I will call her clinic to refill it only to be told dispensing the refill will be delayed because the vet working that day has to approve it.  This may delay the refill by a day or two or it may actually not be approved at all. The vet may decide that my dog needs new labs before they'll fill it, or require a follow up appointment. Again, I am not requesting new refills, I am just trying to fill a refill that was already prescribed. Sometimes this will be a different vet in the same practice second-guessing their colleague, but sometimes it is even the same one who originally prescribed it.  (2) I will leave with a written prescription and provide it to an online veterinary pharmacy to fill. That pharmacy will not simply accept the written prescription and fill it, but instead contact the vet to confirm it.  This leads to the same delay as above. And sometimes the clinic may even reject authorizing a prescription they just gave me.   This seems so unnecessarily difficult. These are all routine prescriptions, not controlled medications.  For example, today, I tried to fill a written prescription for a 6 month supply of a flea/heartworm medication. The online pharmacy contacted the vet, and the receptionist rejected the request because my dog was due for a yearly heartworm test in 4 months. (Her vet had prescribed this knowing it was the case.)  I ended up talking to the office manager, who said they would allow me to fill the prescription on compassionate terms since my dog is not expected to live six months anyways (she has cancer, but paying for individual monthly doses of this medication is more expensive than getting a 6 month supply).  These are not ideal options, but the best ways to avoid missed doses that I've found have been: 1. Ask the vet to fill all the refills on the day the medication is prescribed. This is expensive, though, and may be a waste if my dog doesn't end up needing them all. 2. Ask the vet to call in the prescription to an outside pharmacy rather than give me a written prescription. But I've found they only really do this for compounded medications they don't dispense themselves.  I don't mean to compare veterinary medicine negatively to human medicine. Overall, I've had excellent experiences with my dog's vets and their staff. While denying my end-of-life dog flea medication on a technicality hit me as particularly capricious and cruel today, our human system in the U.S. is far more capricious and cruel towards our patients.  I also understand veterinarians are having a rough time in general lately, and get a lot of unfair flack, so I'd like to understand what's going on here rather than just blame them or their staff for my problems filling prescriptions.   Is there something basic I'm missing here? Is a prescription with refills not a settled matter in veterinary medicine? What am I getting wrong and how can I approach this more productively?", "c_root_id_A": "irimj7b", "c_root_id_B": "iriqngu", "created_at_utc_A": 1665238269, "created_at_utc_B": 1665240482, "score_A": 5, "score_B": 27, "human_ref_A": "The real answer here is that it is absurd. If you are written a 6 month prescription, you should be able to refill through those 6 months without issue. That is literally how prescriptions are supposed to work. Some vets are better than others.  As an owner of a dog with multiple chronic conditions, the best bet is to find an office that is veterinarian owned so that you get continuity in care. Explain directly to the vet owner why you want 3 or 6 months filled at one time. They are far more likely to work with you. If you get a 6 month prescription at a franchise like VCA and the vet leaves after a month, they will often make you come in and pay 160+ for an exam that you just had 30 days ago.", "human_ref_B": "Because the vet isn't just the primary doctor, they're also the pharmacist in this situation. In human medicine, the primary doctor prescribes then the pharmacist is the one that reviews the prescription to do the dispensing. And at refill time the pharmacist reviews the prescription to ensure the refill can be done. In the vet world, the vet is the primary doctor and the pharmacist, therefore at refill time the vet has the approve the refill like a pharmacist would in the human scenario. Essentially in human medicine the responsibilities have been divided between the doctor and the pharmacist, but in vet medicine the responsibilities are solely on the vet. That is a major discrepancy between the two medical fields.  Also, at the clinics I've worked at have always put on label that refills take 24 hours to be done even on chronic medications. Since you're acknowledging that there is this delay, a solution is to ask for a refill 1 week prior to the medication running out and therefore any potential delay hopefully won't cause any missed doses.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 2213.0, "score_ratio": 5.4, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xysqzu", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.96, "history": "Q from a human doctor: why are my dogs prescriptions so hard to fill? For context, I am a doctor (for humans) in the U.S. This is how I'm used to prescriptions working:  - A patient leaves the clinic with a prescription from me - Maybe the pharmacist filling it contacts me with a specific concern, or the patient contacts me to change the pharmacy on an electronic prescription - Other than that, neither I nor anyone else on the staff have any interaction with the prescription until the patient uses all the refills and requests more.  It seems to work differently in veterinary medicine and I feel like I'm missing something here that I just can't get right.  Problems filling prescriptions have led to my dog missing doses of various chronic medications over the years. It was even part of the reason I left her last clinic -- only to encounter the same problems at her new clinic.  Two main problems I've had:  (1) I will get a medication dispensed by her vet with x refills. One month later, I will call her clinic to refill it only to be told dispensing the refill will be delayed because the vet working that day has to approve it.  This may delay the refill by a day or two or it may actually not be approved at all. The vet may decide that my dog needs new labs before they'll fill it, or require a follow up appointment. Again, I am not requesting new refills, I am just trying to fill a refill that was already prescribed. Sometimes this will be a different vet in the same practice second-guessing their colleague, but sometimes it is even the same one who originally prescribed it.  (2) I will leave with a written prescription and provide it to an online veterinary pharmacy to fill. That pharmacy will not simply accept the written prescription and fill it, but instead contact the vet to confirm it.  This leads to the same delay as above. And sometimes the clinic may even reject authorizing a prescription they just gave me.   This seems so unnecessarily difficult. These are all routine prescriptions, not controlled medications.  For example, today, I tried to fill a written prescription for a 6 month supply of a flea/heartworm medication. The online pharmacy contacted the vet, and the receptionist rejected the request because my dog was due for a yearly heartworm test in 4 months. (Her vet had prescribed this knowing it was the case.)  I ended up talking to the office manager, who said they would allow me to fill the prescription on compassionate terms since my dog is not expected to live six months anyways (she has cancer, but paying for individual monthly doses of this medication is more expensive than getting a 6 month supply).  These are not ideal options, but the best ways to avoid missed doses that I've found have been: 1. Ask the vet to fill all the refills on the day the medication is prescribed. This is expensive, though, and may be a waste if my dog doesn't end up needing them all. 2. Ask the vet to call in the prescription to an outside pharmacy rather than give me a written prescription. But I've found they only really do this for compounded medications they don't dispense themselves.  I don't mean to compare veterinary medicine negatively to human medicine. Overall, I've had excellent experiences with my dog's vets and their staff. While denying my end-of-life dog flea medication on a technicality hit me as particularly capricious and cruel today, our human system in the U.S. is far more capricious and cruel towards our patients.  I also understand veterinarians are having a rough time in general lately, and get a lot of unfair flack, so I'd like to understand what's going on here rather than just blame them or their staff for my problems filling prescriptions.   Is there something basic I'm missing here? Is a prescription with refills not a settled matter in veterinary medicine? What am I getting wrong and how can I approach this more productively?", "c_root_id_A": "irihs8s", "c_root_id_B": "iriqngu", "created_at_utc_A": 1665235470, "created_at_utc_B": 1665240482, "score_A": -2, "score_B": 27, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Because the vet isn't just the primary doctor, they're also the pharmacist in this situation. In human medicine, the primary doctor prescribes then the pharmacist is the one that reviews the prescription to do the dispensing. And at refill time the pharmacist reviews the prescription to ensure the refill can be done. In the vet world, the vet is the primary doctor and the pharmacist, therefore at refill time the vet has the approve the refill like a pharmacist would in the human scenario. Essentially in human medicine the responsibilities have been divided between the doctor and the pharmacist, but in vet medicine the responsibilities are solely on the vet. That is a major discrepancy between the two medical fields.  Also, at the clinics I've worked at have always put on label that refills take 24 hours to be done even on chronic medications. Since you're acknowledging that there is this delay, a solution is to ask for a refill 1 week prior to the medication running out and therefore any potential delay hopefully won't cause any missed doses.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 5012.0, "score_ratio": -13.5, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xysqzu", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.96, "history": "Q from a human doctor: why are my dogs prescriptions so hard to fill? For context, I am a doctor (for humans) in the U.S. This is how I'm used to prescriptions working:  - A patient leaves the clinic with a prescription from me - Maybe the pharmacist filling it contacts me with a specific concern, or the patient contacts me to change the pharmacy on an electronic prescription - Other than that, neither I nor anyone else on the staff have any interaction with the prescription until the patient uses all the refills and requests more.  It seems to work differently in veterinary medicine and I feel like I'm missing something here that I just can't get right.  Problems filling prescriptions have led to my dog missing doses of various chronic medications over the years. It was even part of the reason I left her last clinic -- only to encounter the same problems at her new clinic.  Two main problems I've had:  (1) I will get a medication dispensed by her vet with x refills. One month later, I will call her clinic to refill it only to be told dispensing the refill will be delayed because the vet working that day has to approve it.  This may delay the refill by a day or two or it may actually not be approved at all. The vet may decide that my dog needs new labs before they'll fill it, or require a follow up appointment. Again, I am not requesting new refills, I am just trying to fill a refill that was already prescribed. Sometimes this will be a different vet in the same practice second-guessing their colleague, but sometimes it is even the same one who originally prescribed it.  (2) I will leave with a written prescription and provide it to an online veterinary pharmacy to fill. That pharmacy will not simply accept the written prescription and fill it, but instead contact the vet to confirm it.  This leads to the same delay as above. And sometimes the clinic may even reject authorizing a prescription they just gave me.   This seems so unnecessarily difficult. These are all routine prescriptions, not controlled medications.  For example, today, I tried to fill a written prescription for a 6 month supply of a flea/heartworm medication. The online pharmacy contacted the vet, and the receptionist rejected the request because my dog was due for a yearly heartworm test in 4 months. (Her vet had prescribed this knowing it was the case.)  I ended up talking to the office manager, who said they would allow me to fill the prescription on compassionate terms since my dog is not expected to live six months anyways (she has cancer, but paying for individual monthly doses of this medication is more expensive than getting a 6 month supply).  These are not ideal options, but the best ways to avoid missed doses that I've found have been: 1. Ask the vet to fill all the refills on the day the medication is prescribed. This is expensive, though, and may be a waste if my dog doesn't end up needing them all. 2. Ask the vet to call in the prescription to an outside pharmacy rather than give me a written prescription. But I've found they only really do this for compounded medications they don't dispense themselves.  I don't mean to compare veterinary medicine negatively to human medicine. Overall, I've had excellent experiences with my dog's vets and their staff. While denying my end-of-life dog flea medication on a technicality hit me as particularly capricious and cruel today, our human system in the U.S. is far more capricious and cruel towards our patients.  I also understand veterinarians are having a rough time in general lately, and get a lot of unfair flack, so I'd like to understand what's going on here rather than just blame them or their staff for my problems filling prescriptions.   Is there something basic I'm missing here? Is a prescription with refills not a settled matter in veterinary medicine? What am I getting wrong and how can I approach this more productively?", "c_root_id_A": "irihs8s", "c_root_id_B": "irikulh", "created_at_utc_A": 1665235470, "created_at_utc_B": 1665237299, "score_A": -2, "score_B": 7, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "If you do not have a veterinarian client patient relationship with the vet on staff that day it is illegal to refill meds for animals you have not personally examined.   Giving medication like NSAID\u2019s or anticonvulsant (phenobarbital) - just two examples off the top of my head - can cause possible organ damage over time just like in human medicine. Think of it in terms of that when they are wanting an exam and recheck labs before refilling your scripts.   Working at a vet clinic recently we have seen similar changes to online pharmacies like chewy where they are going digital and straying from paper prescriptions. Recently we had someone call who had a fax verification from us but chewy still would not accept it without first verifying with us. Not saying it is their fault just different than what you\u2019re probably used to.   Giving flea/tick/Hw prevention without knowing your animal is heart worm negative can actually hurt them. That\u2019s why they want the recheck before refilling this.   Any good vets will not fill all refills at once even if non controlled drugs, this barrs any chance they may have at doing the rechecks necessary to make sure those meds are still safe for your pet in the future. It also is likely illegal to do so.   Just my two cents as a CVT", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 1829.0, "score_ratio": -3.5, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xysqzu", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.96, "history": "Q from a human doctor: why are my dogs prescriptions so hard to fill? For context, I am a doctor (for humans) in the U.S. This is how I'm used to prescriptions working:  - A patient leaves the clinic with a prescription from me - Maybe the pharmacist filling it contacts me with a specific concern, or the patient contacts me to change the pharmacy on an electronic prescription - Other than that, neither I nor anyone else on the staff have any interaction with the prescription until the patient uses all the refills and requests more.  It seems to work differently in veterinary medicine and I feel like I'm missing something here that I just can't get right.  Problems filling prescriptions have led to my dog missing doses of various chronic medications over the years. It was even part of the reason I left her last clinic -- only to encounter the same problems at her new clinic.  Two main problems I've had:  (1) I will get a medication dispensed by her vet with x refills. One month later, I will call her clinic to refill it only to be told dispensing the refill will be delayed because the vet working that day has to approve it.  This may delay the refill by a day or two or it may actually not be approved at all. The vet may decide that my dog needs new labs before they'll fill it, or require a follow up appointment. Again, I am not requesting new refills, I am just trying to fill a refill that was already prescribed. Sometimes this will be a different vet in the same practice second-guessing their colleague, but sometimes it is even the same one who originally prescribed it.  (2) I will leave with a written prescription and provide it to an online veterinary pharmacy to fill. That pharmacy will not simply accept the written prescription and fill it, but instead contact the vet to confirm it.  This leads to the same delay as above. And sometimes the clinic may even reject authorizing a prescription they just gave me.   This seems so unnecessarily difficult. These are all routine prescriptions, not controlled medications.  For example, today, I tried to fill a written prescription for a 6 month supply of a flea/heartworm medication. The online pharmacy contacted the vet, and the receptionist rejected the request because my dog was due for a yearly heartworm test in 4 months. (Her vet had prescribed this knowing it was the case.)  I ended up talking to the office manager, who said they would allow me to fill the prescription on compassionate terms since my dog is not expected to live six months anyways (she has cancer, but paying for individual monthly doses of this medication is more expensive than getting a 6 month supply).  These are not ideal options, but the best ways to avoid missed doses that I've found have been: 1. Ask the vet to fill all the refills on the day the medication is prescribed. This is expensive, though, and may be a waste if my dog doesn't end up needing them all. 2. Ask the vet to call in the prescription to an outside pharmacy rather than give me a written prescription. But I've found they only really do this for compounded medications they don't dispense themselves.  I don't mean to compare veterinary medicine negatively to human medicine. Overall, I've had excellent experiences with my dog's vets and their staff. While denying my end-of-life dog flea medication on a technicality hit me as particularly capricious and cruel today, our human system in the U.S. is far more capricious and cruel towards our patients.  I also understand veterinarians are having a rough time in general lately, and get a lot of unfair flack, so I'd like to understand what's going on here rather than just blame them or their staff for my problems filling prescriptions.   Is there something basic I'm missing here? Is a prescription with refills not a settled matter in veterinary medicine? What am I getting wrong and how can I approach this more productively?", "c_root_id_A": "irihs8s", "c_root_id_B": "irimj7b", "created_at_utc_A": 1665235470, "created_at_utc_B": 1665238269, "score_A": -2, "score_B": 5, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "The real answer here is that it is absurd. If you are written a 6 month prescription, you should be able to refill through those 6 months without issue. That is literally how prescriptions are supposed to work. Some vets are better than others.  As an owner of a dog with multiple chronic conditions, the best bet is to find an office that is veterinarian owned so that you get continuity in care. Explain directly to the vet owner why you want 3 or 6 months filled at one time. They are far more likely to work with you. If you get a 6 month prescription at a franchise like VCA and the vet leaves after a month, they will often make you come in and pay 160+ for an exam that you just had 30 days ago.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 2799.0, "score_ratio": -2.5, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wvv2c6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.", "c_root_id_A": "ilhi5c9", "c_root_id_B": "ilheuhw", "created_at_utc_A": 1661277796, "created_at_utc_B": 1661276533, "score_A": 510, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Honestly? She's 15, just let her eat what she wants.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 1263.0, "score_ratio": 510.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wvv2c6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.", "c_root_id_A": "ilheuhw", "c_root_id_B": "ili09af", "created_at_utc_A": 1661276533, "created_at_utc_B": 1661284727, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 214, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "If you really want to change it you can mix whiskas with your chosen brand. But if she\u2019s 15, I\u2019d just keep her on it. Let the old lady be", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 8194.0, "score_ratio": 214.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wvv2c6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.", "c_root_id_A": "ilhoagk", "c_root_id_B": "ilheuhw", "created_at_utc_A": 1661280178, "created_at_utc_B": 1661276533, "score_A": 93, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "will she take the dry mixed with some wet can?   wet food is great because it provides moisture that cats are notoriously bad at getting for themselves", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 3645.0, "score_ratio": 93.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wvv2c6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.", "c_root_id_A": "ili9b8y", "c_root_id_B": "ilheuhw", "created_at_utc_A": 1661288178, "created_at_utc_B": 1661276533, "score_A": 53, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Just let homie eat it. As a dog owner we mix foods when we change them, starting with a couple of pieces of the new food with the old and slowly increasing until they\u2019re entirely eating the new food.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 11645.0, "score_ratio": 53.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wvv2c6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.", "c_root_id_A": "ilhtch5", "c_root_id_B": "ilheuhw", "created_at_utc_A": 1661282113, "created_at_utc_B": 1661276533, "score_A": 48, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Whiskas isn't a bad food and if it's all she'll eat, let her eat it.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 5580.0, "score_ratio": 48.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wvv2c6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.", "c_root_id_A": "ilidi77", "c_root_id_B": "ilheuhw", "created_at_utc_A": 1661289808, "created_at_utc_B": 1661276533, "score_A": 41, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Did your vet attempt to switch her to a specific food due to a health condition? If so have you spoken with the vet and offered all of the flavor options and brands available?", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 13275.0, "score_ratio": 41.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wvv2c6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.", "c_root_id_A": "ilhykqw", "c_root_id_B": "ilheuhw", "created_at_utc_A": 1661284095, "created_at_utc_B": 1661276533, "score_A": 34, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I agree with the other comments about whiskas and old kitties. If she eats it let her. Make sure you are aware of how much she is eating since it's easy to overfeed. It's not the food that makes the cat overweight, it's how MUCH food YOU give that can make the cat overweight. If she's gaining weight, lower her food consumption by not giving her as much.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 7562.0, "score_ratio": 34.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wvv2c6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.", "c_root_id_A": "ilj12x1", "c_root_id_B": "ilheuhw", "created_at_utc_A": 1661299662, "created_at_utc_B": 1661276533, "score_A": 30, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Whiskas is made by the same company that makes Iams & Royal Canin which are known to be good foods, do large feeding trials, vet nutritionists employed, etc. Whiskas is probably on the lower end, but it\u2019s still an ok food. Some people have issues with big companies or what not, but you aren\u2019t feeding something that is bad for cats. Not all animals need a premium food to thrive.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 23129.0, "score_ratio": 30.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wvv2c6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.", "c_root_id_A": "ilisase", "c_root_id_B": "ilheuhw", "created_at_utc_A": 1661295835, "created_at_utc_B": 1661276533, "score_A": 22, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "She's fifteen! Let her eat what she likes.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 19302.0, "score_ratio": 22.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wvv2c6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.", "c_root_id_A": "illjg39", "c_root_id_B": "ilheuhw", "created_at_utc_A": 1661351167, "created_at_utc_B": 1661276533, "score_A": 7, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Fed is best", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 74634.0, "score_ratio": 7.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wvv2c6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.", "c_root_id_A": "ilheuhw", "c_root_id_B": "iljr9dv", "created_at_utc_A": 1661276533, "created_at_utc_B": 1661311378, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 4, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Without an advertisement from a competing brand, how do you know Whiskas isn't good?", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 34845.0, "score_ratio": 4.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wvv2c6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.", "c_root_id_A": "ilheuhw", "c_root_id_B": "ilksmk5", "created_at_utc_A": 1661276533, "created_at_utc_B": 1661337828, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 4, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "She is 15. You know some old people get picky. Lol. So give her whiskas like evryone else says. Idk if whiskas is good or bad but most cats seem to like whiskas.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 61295.0, "score_ratio": 4.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wvv2c6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.", "c_root_id_A": "ilheuhw", "c_root_id_B": "ilkqd1l", "created_at_utc_A": 1661276533, "created_at_utc_B": 1661336207, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "What are the comments being removed?", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 59674.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wvv2c6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.", "c_root_id_A": "ilheujh", "c_root_id_B": "ilhi5c9", "created_at_utc_A": 1661276534, "created_at_utc_B": 1661277796, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 510, "human_ref_A": "Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Honestly? She's 15, just let her eat what she wants.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 1262.0, "score_ratio": 510.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wvv2c6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.", "c_root_id_A": "ili09af", "c_root_id_B": "ilhoagk", "created_at_utc_A": 1661284727, "created_at_utc_B": 1661280178, "score_A": 214, "score_B": 93, "human_ref_A": "If you really want to change it you can mix whiskas with your chosen brand. But if she\u2019s 15, I\u2019d just keep her on it. Let the old lady be", "human_ref_B": "will she take the dry mixed with some wet can?   wet food is great because it provides moisture that cats are notoriously bad at getting for themselves", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 4549.0, "score_ratio": 2.3010752688, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wvv2c6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.", "c_root_id_A": "ili09af", "c_root_id_B": "ilhtch5", "created_at_utc_A": 1661284727, "created_at_utc_B": 1661282113, "score_A": 214, "score_B": 48, "human_ref_A": "If you really want to change it you can mix whiskas with your chosen brand. But if she\u2019s 15, I\u2019d just keep her on it. Let the old lady be", "human_ref_B": "Whiskas isn't a bad food and if it's all she'll eat, let her eat it.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 2614.0, "score_ratio": 4.4583333333, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wvv2c6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.", "c_root_id_A": "ili09af", "c_root_id_B": "ilhykqw", "created_at_utc_A": 1661284727, "created_at_utc_B": 1661284095, "score_A": 214, "score_B": 34, "human_ref_A": "If you really want to change it you can mix whiskas with your chosen brand. But if she\u2019s 15, I\u2019d just keep her on it. Let the old lady be", "human_ref_B": "I agree with the other comments about whiskas and old kitties. If she eats it let her. Make sure you are aware of how much she is eating since it's easy to overfeed. It's not the food that makes the cat overweight, it's how MUCH food YOU give that can make the cat overweight. If she's gaining weight, lower her food consumption by not giving her as much.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 632.0, "score_ratio": 6.2941176471, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wvv2c6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.", "c_root_id_A": "ili09af", "c_root_id_B": "ilheujh", "created_at_utc_A": 1661284727, "created_at_utc_B": 1661276534, "score_A": 214, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "If you really want to change it you can mix whiskas with your chosen brand. But if she\u2019s 15, I\u2019d just keep her on it. Let the old lady be", "human_ref_B": "Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 8193.0, "score_ratio": 214.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wvv2c6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.", "c_root_id_A": "ilheujh", "c_root_id_B": "ilhoagk", "created_at_utc_A": 1661276534, "created_at_utc_B": 1661280178, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 93, "human_ref_A": "Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "will she take the dry mixed with some wet can?   wet food is great because it provides moisture that cats are notoriously bad at getting for themselves", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 3644.0, "score_ratio": 93.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wvv2c6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.", "c_root_id_A": "ilhtch5", "c_root_id_B": "ili9b8y", "created_at_utc_A": 1661282113, "created_at_utc_B": 1661288178, "score_A": 48, "score_B": 53, "human_ref_A": "Whiskas isn't a bad food and if it's all she'll eat, let her eat it.", "human_ref_B": "Just let homie eat it. As a dog owner we mix foods when we change them, starting with a couple of pieces of the new food with the old and slowly increasing until they\u2019re entirely eating the new food.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 6065.0, "score_ratio": 1.1041666667, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wvv2c6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.", "c_root_id_A": "ilhykqw", "c_root_id_B": "ili9b8y", "created_at_utc_A": 1661284095, "created_at_utc_B": 1661288178, "score_A": 34, "score_B": 53, "human_ref_A": "I agree with the other comments about whiskas and old kitties. If she eats it let her. Make sure you are aware of how much she is eating since it's easy to overfeed. It's not the food that makes the cat overweight, it's how MUCH food YOU give that can make the cat overweight. If she's gaining weight, lower her food consumption by not giving her as much.", "human_ref_B": "Just let homie eat it. As a dog owner we mix foods when we change them, starting with a couple of pieces of the new food with the old and slowly increasing until they\u2019re entirely eating the new food.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 4083.0, "score_ratio": 1.5588235294, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wvv2c6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.", "c_root_id_A": "ili9b8y", "c_root_id_B": "ilheujh", "created_at_utc_A": 1661288178, "created_at_utc_B": 1661276534, "score_A": 53, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Just let homie eat it. As a dog owner we mix foods when we change them, starting with a couple of pieces of the new food with the old and slowly increasing until they\u2019re entirely eating the new food.", "human_ref_B": "Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 11644.0, "score_ratio": 53.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wvv2c6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.", "c_root_id_A": "ilhtch5", "c_root_id_B": "ilheujh", "created_at_utc_A": 1661282113, "created_at_utc_B": 1661276534, "score_A": 48, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Whiskas isn't a bad food and if it's all she'll eat, let her eat it.", "human_ref_B": "Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 5579.0, "score_ratio": 48.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wvv2c6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.", "c_root_id_A": "ilhykqw", "c_root_id_B": "ilidi77", "created_at_utc_A": 1661284095, "created_at_utc_B": 1661289808, "score_A": 34, "score_B": 41, "human_ref_A": "I agree with the other comments about whiskas and old kitties. If she eats it let her. Make sure you are aware of how much she is eating since it's easy to overfeed. It's not the food that makes the cat overweight, it's how MUCH food YOU give that can make the cat overweight. If she's gaining weight, lower her food consumption by not giving her as much.", "human_ref_B": "Did your vet attempt to switch her to a specific food due to a health condition? If so have you spoken with the vet and offered all of the flavor options and brands available?", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 5713.0, "score_ratio": 1.2058823529, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wvv2c6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.", "c_root_id_A": "ilheujh", "c_root_id_B": "ilidi77", "created_at_utc_A": 1661276534, "created_at_utc_B": 1661289808, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 41, "human_ref_A": "Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Did your vet attempt to switch her to a specific food due to a health condition? If so have you spoken with the vet and offered all of the flavor options and brands available?", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 13274.0, "score_ratio": 41.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wvv2c6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.", "c_root_id_A": "ilhykqw", "c_root_id_B": "ilheujh", "created_at_utc_A": 1661284095, "created_at_utc_B": 1661276534, "score_A": 34, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I agree with the other comments about whiskas and old kitties. If she eats it let her. Make sure you are aware of how much she is eating since it's easy to overfeed. It's not the food that makes the cat overweight, it's how MUCH food YOU give that can make the cat overweight. If she's gaining weight, lower her food consumption by not giving her as much.", "human_ref_B": "Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 7561.0, "score_ratio": 34.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wvv2c6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.", "c_root_id_A": "ilisase", "c_root_id_B": "ilj12x1", "created_at_utc_A": 1661295835, "created_at_utc_B": 1661299662, "score_A": 22, "score_B": 30, "human_ref_A": "She's fifteen! Let her eat what she likes.", "human_ref_B": "Whiskas is made by the same company that makes Iams & Royal Canin which are known to be good foods, do large feeding trials, vet nutritionists employed, etc. Whiskas is probably on the lower end, but it\u2019s still an ok food. Some people have issues with big companies or what not, but you aren\u2019t feeding something that is bad for cats. Not all animals need a premium food to thrive.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 3827.0, "score_ratio": 1.3636363636, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wvv2c6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.", "c_root_id_A": "ilj12x1", "c_root_id_B": "ilheujh", "created_at_utc_A": 1661299662, "created_at_utc_B": 1661276534, "score_A": 30, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Whiskas is made by the same company that makes Iams & Royal Canin which are known to be good foods, do large feeding trials, vet nutritionists employed, etc. Whiskas is probably on the lower end, but it\u2019s still an ok food. Some people have issues with big companies or what not, but you aren\u2019t feeding something that is bad for cats. Not all animals need a premium food to thrive.", "human_ref_B": "Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 23128.0, "score_ratio": 30.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wvv2c6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.", "c_root_id_A": "ilisase", "c_root_id_B": "ilheujh", "created_at_utc_A": 1661295835, "created_at_utc_B": 1661276534, "score_A": 22, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "She's fifteen! Let her eat what she likes.", "human_ref_B": "Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 19301.0, "score_ratio": 22.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wvv2c6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.", "c_root_id_A": "illjg39", "c_root_id_B": "iljr9dv", "created_at_utc_A": 1661351167, "created_at_utc_B": 1661311378, "score_A": 7, "score_B": 4, "human_ref_A": "Fed is best", "human_ref_B": "Without an advertisement from a competing brand, how do you know Whiskas isn't good?", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 39789.0, "score_ratio": 1.75, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wvv2c6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.", "c_root_id_A": "illjg39", "c_root_id_B": "ilksmk5", "created_at_utc_A": 1661351167, "created_at_utc_B": 1661337828, "score_A": 7, "score_B": 4, "human_ref_A": "Fed is best", "human_ref_B": "She is 15. You know some old people get picky. Lol. So give her whiskas like evryone else says. Idk if whiskas is good or bad but most cats seem to like whiskas.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 13339.0, "score_ratio": 1.75, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wvv2c6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.", "c_root_id_A": "illjg39", "c_root_id_B": "ilkqd1l", "created_at_utc_A": 1661351167, "created_at_utc_B": 1661336207, "score_A": 7, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "Fed is best", "human_ref_B": "What are the comments being removed?", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 14960.0, "score_ratio": 3.5, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wvv2c6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.", "c_root_id_A": "illjg39", "c_root_id_B": "iljuyzr", "created_at_utc_A": 1661351167, "created_at_utc_B": 1661313303, "score_A": 7, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Fed is best", "human_ref_B": "She\u2019s old give her treats all day if she wants!", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 37864.0, "score_ratio": 7.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wvv2c6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.", "c_root_id_A": "illjg39", "c_root_id_B": "ilheujh", "created_at_utc_A": 1661351167, "created_at_utc_B": 1661276534, "score_A": 7, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Fed is best", "human_ref_B": "Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 74633.0, "score_ratio": 7.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wvv2c6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.", "c_root_id_A": "iljghay", "c_root_id_B": "illjg39", "created_at_utc_A": 1661306391, "created_at_utc_B": 1661351167, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 7, "human_ref_A": "At that age, do what works :)  It\u2019s working! :)", "human_ref_B": "Fed is best", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 44776.0, "score_ratio": 7.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wvv2c6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.", "c_root_id_A": "iljr9dv", "c_root_id_B": "ilheujh", "created_at_utc_A": 1661311378, "created_at_utc_B": 1661276534, "score_A": 4, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Without an advertisement from a competing brand, how do you know Whiskas isn't good?", "human_ref_B": "Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 34844.0, "score_ratio": 4.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wvv2c6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.", "c_root_id_A": "iljghay", "c_root_id_B": "iljr9dv", "created_at_utc_A": 1661306391, "created_at_utc_B": 1661311378, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 4, "human_ref_A": "At that age, do what works :)  It\u2019s working! :)", "human_ref_B": "Without an advertisement from a competing brand, how do you know Whiskas isn't good?", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 4987.0, "score_ratio": 4.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wvv2c6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.", "c_root_id_A": "ilksmk5", "c_root_id_B": "ilkqd1l", "created_at_utc_A": 1661337828, "created_at_utc_B": 1661336207, "score_A": 4, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "She is 15. You know some old people get picky. Lol. So give her whiskas like evryone else says. Idk if whiskas is good or bad but most cats seem to like whiskas.", "human_ref_B": "What are the comments being removed?", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 1621.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wvv2c6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.", "c_root_id_A": "iljuyzr", "c_root_id_B": "ilksmk5", "created_at_utc_A": 1661313303, "created_at_utc_B": 1661337828, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 4, "human_ref_A": "She\u2019s old give her treats all day if she wants!", "human_ref_B": "She is 15. You know some old people get picky. Lol. So give her whiskas like evryone else says. Idk if whiskas is good or bad but most cats seem to like whiskas.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 24525.0, "score_ratio": 4.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wvv2c6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.", "c_root_id_A": "ilheujh", "c_root_id_B": "ilksmk5", "created_at_utc_A": 1661276534, "created_at_utc_B": 1661337828, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 4, "human_ref_A": "Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "She is 15. You know some old people get picky. Lol. So give her whiskas like evryone else says. Idk if whiskas is good or bad but most cats seem to like whiskas.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 61294.0, "score_ratio": 4.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wvv2c6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.", "c_root_id_A": "ilksmk5", "c_root_id_B": "iljghay", "created_at_utc_A": 1661337828, "created_at_utc_B": 1661306391, "score_A": 4, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "She is 15. You know some old people get picky. Lol. So give her whiskas like evryone else says. Idk if whiskas is good or bad but most cats seem to like whiskas.", "human_ref_B": "At that age, do what works :)  It\u2019s working! :)", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 31437.0, "score_ratio": 4.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wvv2c6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.", "c_root_id_A": "iljuyzr", "c_root_id_B": "ilkqd1l", "created_at_utc_A": 1661313303, "created_at_utc_B": 1661336207, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "She\u2019s old give her treats all day if she wants!", "human_ref_B": "What are the comments being removed?", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 22904.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wvv2c6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.", "c_root_id_A": "ilheujh", "c_root_id_B": "ilkqd1l", "created_at_utc_A": 1661276534, "created_at_utc_B": 1661336207, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "What are the comments being removed?", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 59673.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wvv2c6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Cat starves unless we give her Whiskas dry food. We tried vet stuff and other healthy options but she just starves. She went from being a good weight to very skinny after we changed her food. She's a 15 year old female cat. Now that we went back to the Whiskas she eats alot and is gaining weight. I know Whiskas isn't good for cats though apparently. She is spayed and I don't know her breed. She kind of looks like a Maine Coon but she isn't that big but she has a fluffy Mane like that.", "c_root_id_A": "ilkqd1l", "c_root_id_B": "iljghay", "created_at_utc_A": 1661336207, "created_at_utc_B": 1661306391, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "What are the comments being removed?", "human_ref_B": "At that age, do what works :)  It\u2019s working! :)", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 29816.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "nhsk9p", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Update on my therapist\u2019s shar-pei He\u2019s recovering, fortunately. My therapist visited about 40 vets, and ended up traveling across half the country to a \u201cskin disease in dogs\u201d expert recommended by her friend. Thank god he finally figured out what was up- he caught a skin disease thats common in foxes.   Anyways, I just wanted to let people know, incase just one person cared.", "c_root_id_A": "gyyslqn", "c_root_id_B": "gyxw773", "created_at_utc_A": 1621618524, "created_at_utc_B": 1621603793, "score_A": 24, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Wow! I didn\u2019t see your original post but that\u2019s insane!! I wouldn\u2019t even think that it came from a wild animal. I\u2019m glad he\u2019s ok now! Soo unnecessary to visit over 40 vets and not one could help him \ud83d\ude1e I\u2019m glad to know he is getting the right care now!", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 14731.0, "score_ratio": 24.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "nhsk9p", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Update on my therapist\u2019s shar-pei He\u2019s recovering, fortunately. My therapist visited about 40 vets, and ended up traveling across half the country to a \u201cskin disease in dogs\u201d expert recommended by her friend. Thank god he finally figured out what was up- he caught a skin disease thats common in foxes.   Anyways, I just wanted to let people know, incase just one person cared.", "c_root_id_A": "gyz5wzu", "c_root_id_B": "gyxw773", "created_at_utc_A": 1621624603, "created_at_utc_B": 1621603793, "score_A": 6, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I\u2019m curious - how was it diagnosed?", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 20810.0, "score_ratio": 6.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "nhsk9p", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Update on my therapist\u2019s shar-pei He\u2019s recovering, fortunately. My therapist visited about 40 vets, and ended up traveling across half the country to a \u201cskin disease in dogs\u201d expert recommended by her friend. Thank god he finally figured out what was up- he caught a skin disease thats common in foxes.   Anyways, I just wanted to let people know, incase just one person cared.", "c_root_id_A": "gyxw773", "c_root_id_B": "gyz5u0l", "created_at_utc_A": 1621603793, "created_at_utc_B": 1621624564, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 6, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Original Post", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 20771.0, "score_ratio": 6.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "nhsk9p", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Update on my therapist\u2019s shar-pei He\u2019s recovering, fortunately. My therapist visited about 40 vets, and ended up traveling across half the country to a \u201cskin disease in dogs\u201d expert recommended by her friend. Thank god he finally figured out what was up- he caught a skin disease thats common in foxes.   Anyways, I just wanted to let people know, incase just one person cared.", "c_root_id_A": "gyxw77t", "c_root_id_B": "gyyslqn", "created_at_utc_A": 1621603794, "created_at_utc_B": 1621618524, "score_A": 0, "score_B": 24, "human_ref_A": "Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Wow! I didn\u2019t see your original post but that\u2019s insane!! I wouldn\u2019t even think that it came from a wild animal. I\u2019m glad he\u2019s ok now! Soo unnecessary to visit over 40 vets and not one could help him \ud83d\ude1e I\u2019m glad to know he is getting the right care now!", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 14730.0, "score_ratio": 24000.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "nhsk9p", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Update on my therapist\u2019s shar-pei He\u2019s recovering, fortunately. My therapist visited about 40 vets, and ended up traveling across half the country to a \u201cskin disease in dogs\u201d expert recommended by her friend. Thank god he finally figured out what was up- he caught a skin disease thats common in foxes.   Anyways, I just wanted to let people know, incase just one person cared.", "c_root_id_A": "gyxw77t", "c_root_id_B": "gyz5wzu", "created_at_utc_A": 1621603794, "created_at_utc_B": 1621624603, "score_A": 0, "score_B": 6, "human_ref_A": "Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "I\u2019m curious - how was it diagnosed?", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 20809.0, "score_ratio": 6000.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "nhsk9p", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Update on my therapist\u2019s shar-pei He\u2019s recovering, fortunately. My therapist visited about 40 vets, and ended up traveling across half the country to a \u201cskin disease in dogs\u201d expert recommended by her friend. Thank god he finally figured out what was up- he caught a skin disease thats common in foxes.   Anyways, I just wanted to let people know, incase just one person cared.", "c_root_id_A": "gyz5u0l", "c_root_id_B": "gyxw77t", "created_at_utc_A": 1621624564, "created_at_utc_B": 1621603794, "score_A": 6, "score_B": 0, "human_ref_A": "Original Post", "human_ref_B": "Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 20770.0, "score_ratio": 6000.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "l1luiq", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Please help. The dog I walk poops blood & the owner doesn't care, what can I do? I took pictures, too  Is he ok? Is this a food allergy or something else?", "c_root_id_A": "gk0f79o", "c_root_id_B": "gk04zgd", "created_at_utc_A": 1611191717, "created_at_utc_B": 1611186464, "score_A": 68, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "What did the owner say exactly? Do u live in America? Because if they\u2019re neglecting the dog you can call the aspca to report them for neglecting the dog\u2019s health issues", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 5253.0, "score_ratio": 68.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "l1luiq", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Please help. The dog I walk poops blood & the owner doesn't care, what can I do? I took pictures, too  Is he ok? Is this a food allergy or something else?", "c_root_id_A": "gk04zgd", "c_root_id_B": "gk1kwhf", "created_at_utc_A": 1611186464, "created_at_utc_B": 1611218543, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 11, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Start by taking a sample to the vet. Pick it up along ur walk.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 32079.0, "score_ratio": 11.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "l1luiq", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Please help. The dog I walk poops blood & the owner doesn't care, what can I do? I took pictures, too  Is he ok? Is this a food allergy or something else?", "c_root_id_A": "gk1031p", "c_root_id_B": "gk04zgd", "created_at_utc_A": 1611202496, "created_at_utc_B": 1611186464, "score_A": 10, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "What color is the blood? Is it dark or bright red?", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 16032.0, "score_ratio": 10.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "l1luiq", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Please help. The dog I walk poops blood & the owner doesn't care, what can I do? I took pictures, too  Is he ok? Is this a food allergy or something else?", "c_root_id_A": "gk05ypo", "c_root_id_B": "gk04zgd", "created_at_utc_A": 1611186966, "created_at_utc_B": 1611186464, "score_A": 11, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "How old is the dog", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 502.0, "score_ratio": 11.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "l1luiq", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Please help. The dog I walk poops blood & the owner doesn't care, what can I do? I took pictures, too  Is he ok? Is this a food allergy or something else?", "c_root_id_A": "gk04zgd", "c_root_id_B": "gk1at27", "created_at_utc_A": 1611186464, "created_at_utc_B": 1611209475, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 6, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "It could be a lot of different things - some very serious, others not so much.  There\u2019s no sense in speculating.  The dog should be checked out by a vet promptly and it sounds like you\u2019ve advised the owner of this.  It\u2019s even more urgent if the dog seems lethargic or otherwise sick.  IMO, if the issue is persisting and the owner seems unconcerned, it\u2019s up to you to decline to provide services until being provided with documentation that the issue is being treated/addressed - however he may just take the dog elsewhere for walking.  You could also report him to your local SPCA (if present) if you feel it necessary and they may be able to require him to seek care.   Could you try bringing up the matter with him again? Maybe give him a heads up by email before? Share your concerns for his dogs well-being.  Perhaps he was just taken off guard the first time.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 23011.0, "score_ratio": 6.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "l1luiq", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Please help. The dog I walk poops blood & the owner doesn't care, what can I do? I took pictures, too  Is he ok? Is this a food allergy or something else?", "c_root_id_A": "gk04zgd", "c_root_id_B": "gk04zhd", "created_at_utc_A": 1611186464, "created_at_utc_B": 1611186464, "score_A": 1, "score_B": -3, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 0.0, "score_ratio": -0.3333333333, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "l1luiq", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Please help. The dog I walk poops blood & the owner doesn't care, what can I do? I took pictures, too  Is he ok? Is this a food allergy or something else?", "c_root_id_A": "gk0f79o", "c_root_id_B": "gk05ypo", "created_at_utc_A": 1611191717, "created_at_utc_B": 1611186966, "score_A": 68, "score_B": 11, "human_ref_A": "What did the owner say exactly? Do u live in America? Because if they\u2019re neglecting the dog you can call the aspca to report them for neglecting the dog\u2019s health issues", "human_ref_B": "How old is the dog", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 4751.0, "score_ratio": 6.1818181818, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "l1luiq", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Please help. The dog I walk poops blood & the owner doesn't care, what can I do? I took pictures, too  Is he ok? Is this a food allergy or something else?", "c_root_id_A": "gk0f79o", "c_root_id_B": "gk04zhd", "created_at_utc_A": 1611191717, "created_at_utc_B": 1611186464, "score_A": 68, "score_B": -3, "human_ref_A": "What did the owner say exactly? Do u live in America? Because if they\u2019re neglecting the dog you can call the aspca to report them for neglecting the dog\u2019s health issues", "human_ref_B": "Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 5253.0, "score_ratio": -22.6666666667, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "l1luiq", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Please help. The dog I walk poops blood & the owner doesn't care, what can I do? I took pictures, too  Is he ok? Is this a food allergy or something else?", "c_root_id_A": "gk1031p", "c_root_id_B": "gk1kwhf", "created_at_utc_A": 1611202496, "created_at_utc_B": 1611218543, "score_A": 10, "score_B": 11, "human_ref_A": "What color is the blood? Is it dark or bright red?", "human_ref_B": "Start by taking a sample to the vet. Pick it up along ur walk.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 16047.0, "score_ratio": 1.1, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "l1luiq", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Please help. The dog I walk poops blood & the owner doesn't care, what can I do? I took pictures, too  Is he ok? Is this a food allergy or something else?", "c_root_id_A": "gk1kwhf", "c_root_id_B": "gk1at27", "created_at_utc_A": 1611218543, "created_at_utc_B": 1611209475, "score_A": 11, "score_B": 6, "human_ref_A": "Start by taking a sample to the vet. Pick it up along ur walk.", "human_ref_B": "It could be a lot of different things - some very serious, others not so much.  There\u2019s no sense in speculating.  The dog should be checked out by a vet promptly and it sounds like you\u2019ve advised the owner of this.  It\u2019s even more urgent if the dog seems lethargic or otherwise sick.  IMO, if the issue is persisting and the owner seems unconcerned, it\u2019s up to you to decline to provide services until being provided with documentation that the issue is being treated/addressed - however he may just take the dog elsewhere for walking.  You could also report him to your local SPCA (if present) if you feel it necessary and they may be able to require him to seek care.   Could you try bringing up the matter with him again? Maybe give him a heads up by email before? Share your concerns for his dogs well-being.  Perhaps he was just taken off guard the first time.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 9068.0, "score_ratio": 1.8333333333, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "l1luiq", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Please help. The dog I walk poops blood & the owner doesn't care, what can I do? I took pictures, too  Is he ok? Is this a food allergy or something else?", "c_root_id_A": "gk04zhd", "c_root_id_B": "gk1kwhf", "created_at_utc_A": 1611186464, "created_at_utc_B": 1611218543, "score_A": -3, "score_B": 11, "human_ref_A": "Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Start by taking a sample to the vet. Pick it up along ur walk.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 32079.0, "score_ratio": -3.6666666667, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "l1luiq", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Please help. The dog I walk poops blood & the owner doesn't care, what can I do? I took pictures, too  Is he ok? Is this a food allergy or something else?", "c_root_id_A": "gk1031p", "c_root_id_B": "gk04zhd", "created_at_utc_A": 1611202496, "created_at_utc_B": 1611186464, "score_A": 10, "score_B": -3, "human_ref_A": "What color is the blood? Is it dark or bright red?", "human_ref_B": "Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 16032.0, "score_ratio": -3.3333333333, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "l1luiq", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Please help. The dog I walk poops blood & the owner doesn't care, what can I do? I took pictures, too  Is he ok? Is this a food allergy or something else?", "c_root_id_A": "gk05ypo", "c_root_id_B": "gk04zhd", "created_at_utc_A": 1611186966, "created_at_utc_B": 1611186464, "score_A": 11, "score_B": -3, "human_ref_A": "How old is the dog", "human_ref_B": "Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 502.0, "score_ratio": -3.6666666667, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "l1luiq", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Please help. The dog I walk poops blood & the owner doesn't care, what can I do? I took pictures, too  Is he ok? Is this a food allergy or something else?", "c_root_id_A": "gk1at27", "c_root_id_B": "gk04zhd", "created_at_utc_A": 1611209475, "created_at_utc_B": 1611186464, "score_A": 6, "score_B": -3, "human_ref_A": "It could be a lot of different things - some very serious, others not so much.  There\u2019s no sense in speculating.  The dog should be checked out by a vet promptly and it sounds like you\u2019ve advised the owner of this.  It\u2019s even more urgent if the dog seems lethargic or otherwise sick.  IMO, if the issue is persisting and the owner seems unconcerned, it\u2019s up to you to decline to provide services until being provided with documentation that the issue is being treated/addressed - however he may just take the dog elsewhere for walking.  You could also report him to your local SPCA (if present) if you feel it necessary and they may be able to require him to seek care.   Could you try bringing up the matter with him again? Maybe give him a heads up by email before? Share your concerns for his dogs well-being.  Perhaps he was just taken off guard the first time.", "human_ref_B": "Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 23011.0, "score_ratio": -2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "elyiv0", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "my cat Sasha is beginning to wind down in her old age, how do I make the rest of her time on this Earth a good one? I found this might be the best way to get real answers, my cat Sasha, who is well over 15, has stopped being able to chew her hard food (leading to weight loss), her jumping has gotten weaker and her limbs seem to make cracky sounds whenever she walks around.  All of this has led me and my family to begin to realize she may be on her last couple of legs, I'm a teenaged girl and there's not much I can do, if anything, about this, I know I can't make her life longer magically, but what I can do is make her quality of remaining life worth living.  So, my question is this, how can I make her feel more comfortable/loved for her remaining days?  I thought going to vets who have experience with animal comfort would be the best way to go about this, I'm very sorry if this doesn't fit the sub!", "c_root_id_A": "fdl9cpv", "c_root_id_B": "fdl2pwl", "created_at_utc_A": 1578519257, "created_at_utc_B": 1578516052, "score_A": 60, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I\u2019m so glad Sasha has such loving family members. I would recommend going to see a veterinarian to do a physical and see if she may have some pain/ what the vet recommends for an older cat.  As far as the food goes, you can wet her food so that it softens. It will make it easier for her to eat. Or you could change her diet to a wet food diet? If the hard food is still to hard for her to chew (over a period of time; again I\u2019d consult your regular vet about the idea before changing anything, there are a lot of foods out there for the older cat so you want to discuss with them what they think may be most suitable for Sasha).", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed.   This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 3205.0, "score_ratio": 60.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "elyiv0", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "my cat Sasha is beginning to wind down in her old age, how do I make the rest of her time on this Earth a good one? I found this might be the best way to get real answers, my cat Sasha, who is well over 15, has stopped being able to chew her hard food (leading to weight loss), her jumping has gotten weaker and her limbs seem to make cracky sounds whenever she walks around.  All of this has led me and my family to begin to realize she may be on her last couple of legs, I'm a teenaged girl and there's not much I can do, if anything, about this, I know I can't make her life longer magically, but what I can do is make her quality of remaining life worth living.  So, my question is this, how can I make her feel more comfortable/loved for her remaining days?  I thought going to vets who have experience with animal comfort would be the best way to go about this, I'm very sorry if this doesn't fit the sub!", "c_root_id_A": "fdmapoc", "c_root_id_B": "fdl2pwl", "created_at_utc_A": 1578544098, "created_at_utc_B": 1578516052, "score_A": 11, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "A good exam would be the first step by a vet. Maybe the teeth are bad and perhaps after the exam a dental cleaning with tooth extractions might help. Alternatively wet food if diet and health permit. There are joint supplements  and pain meds to give a old arthritic cat ( over the counter human drugs kill cats btw) helping your cat get around like pet stairs or ramps for places kitty likes to go like the bed or the couch. Elevated food bowls so we don\u2019t have to bend at the neck so much ( even if it\u2019s  just the bowl placed on top of 1-2 large text books) senior panel blood work is never a bad idea for a senior as kidney disease and thyroid disease are very common and catching early can extend their life with your loving family.  Lots of disease can cause weight loss as well so it might not just be the food issue which is why I stress some blood work. Thanks for loving your kitty.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed.   This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 28046.0, "score_ratio": 11.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "elyiv0", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "my cat Sasha is beginning to wind down in her old age, how do I make the rest of her time on this Earth a good one? I found this might be the best way to get real answers, my cat Sasha, who is well over 15, has stopped being able to chew her hard food (leading to weight loss), her jumping has gotten weaker and her limbs seem to make cracky sounds whenever she walks around.  All of this has led me and my family to begin to realize she may be on her last couple of legs, I'm a teenaged girl and there's not much I can do, if anything, about this, I know I can't make her life longer magically, but what I can do is make her quality of remaining life worth living.  So, my question is this, how can I make her feel more comfortable/loved for her remaining days?  I thought going to vets who have experience with animal comfort would be the best way to go about this, I'm very sorry if this doesn't fit the sub!", "c_root_id_A": "fdl2pwl", "c_root_id_B": "fdmrx7t", "created_at_utc_A": 1578516052, "created_at_utc_B": 1578562771, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 3, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed.   This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "I would think that a comfy pillow or cushion, especially if you can find one that goes in the microwave to ease the pain of her old joints, would be very welcome. You could make your own by filling a pillowcase (not stuffing it to bursting--that's unnecessary--but just enough to make a heating pad) with flax seeds from your local health food store.  You are so sweet to take such good care of your beloved Sasha when she needs you most.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 46719.0, "score_ratio": 3.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "es5ae2", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "So my cat is a dumbass... Hey so!  My flat has mice and, for obvious reasons, i wanna get rid of them. They aren't anyone's pets or mine and they're generally a pain.   Now i do have an (approx) 11 year old rescue domestic short hair cat (named salem, hes all black and likes to sass you) who is a complete idiot. He sticks his face into everything, tries chewing anything that looks like he shouldnt, is a typical teenager who does the very thing i told him not to do when my back is turned.  For those reasons (and more) im limited to what i can do to get rid of the mice. I cant use poison because my loveable idiot will definitely think its for him as a treat, i cant use traps because the black furred feline enjoys flicking his tail onto things he should probably know is bad by now and he has the self preservation instinct of a moth at an electric lamp.  I've read online that mice *despise* the smell of peppermint and just leave at the scent! Seen a few videos and a few other studies confirming it BUT!  Ive read its bad for cats and as much as the furball does my head in, if anything happened to him because of me, I'd never forgive myself.   So i turn to you guys, heroes of fur babies, for help.  Any tips as to how to end the furry stand off? I dont want to hurt the freeloading furry fuzzies but i cant have them not paying rent anymore.   Thank you in advance!  A tired Cat mom, Kitti    P.s: Salem likes the sound of mice but i lowkey sat and watched him stare at the furry feck and he just laid down and went to sleep so he's made me aware of how much he cares about that idea. Get a cat they said, itll be free rodent repellent they said. Cats are mousers they said... tell that to mine please?", "c_root_id_A": "ff86p2a", "c_root_id_B": "ff7vqr0", "created_at_utc_A": 1579667528, "created_at_utc_B": 1579659504, "score_A": 72, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Depending on how bad your mouse problem is, there are humane catch and release traps you can order online. The catch is that you have to walk/drive a little bit away from your house to release them. We\u2019ve been using them for months and if you go far enough away, we haven\u2019t had any more come back \ud83e\udd37\ud83c\udffb\u200d\u2640\ufe0f", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed.   This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 8024.0, "score_ratio": 72.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "es5ae2", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "So my cat is a dumbass... Hey so!  My flat has mice and, for obvious reasons, i wanna get rid of them. They aren't anyone's pets or mine and they're generally a pain.   Now i do have an (approx) 11 year old rescue domestic short hair cat (named salem, hes all black and likes to sass you) who is a complete idiot. He sticks his face into everything, tries chewing anything that looks like he shouldnt, is a typical teenager who does the very thing i told him not to do when my back is turned.  For those reasons (and more) im limited to what i can do to get rid of the mice. I cant use poison because my loveable idiot will definitely think its for him as a treat, i cant use traps because the black furred feline enjoys flicking his tail onto things he should probably know is bad by now and he has the self preservation instinct of a moth at an electric lamp.  I've read online that mice *despise* the smell of peppermint and just leave at the scent! Seen a few videos and a few other studies confirming it BUT!  Ive read its bad for cats and as much as the furball does my head in, if anything happened to him because of me, I'd never forgive myself.   So i turn to you guys, heroes of fur babies, for help.  Any tips as to how to end the furry stand off? I dont want to hurt the freeloading furry fuzzies but i cant have them not paying rent anymore.   Thank you in advance!  A tired Cat mom, Kitti    P.s: Salem likes the sound of mice but i lowkey sat and watched him stare at the furry feck and he just laid down and went to sleep so he's made me aware of how much he cares about that idea. Get a cat they said, itll be free rodent repellent they said. Cats are mousers they said... tell that to mine please?", "c_root_id_A": "ff7vqr0", "c_root_id_B": "ff86yqz", "created_at_utc_A": 1579659504, "created_at_utc_B": 1579667756, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 17, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed.   This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Hire a pest control company to come handle it. They have many many different methods to getting rid of them. Chemicals/traps are one way but there are others that dont involve either.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 8252.0, "score_ratio": 17.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "es5ae2", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "So my cat is a dumbass... Hey so!  My flat has mice and, for obvious reasons, i wanna get rid of them. They aren't anyone's pets or mine and they're generally a pain.   Now i do have an (approx) 11 year old rescue domestic short hair cat (named salem, hes all black and likes to sass you) who is a complete idiot. He sticks his face into everything, tries chewing anything that looks like he shouldnt, is a typical teenager who does the very thing i told him not to do when my back is turned.  For those reasons (and more) im limited to what i can do to get rid of the mice. I cant use poison because my loveable idiot will definitely think its for him as a treat, i cant use traps because the black furred feline enjoys flicking his tail onto things he should probably know is bad by now and he has the self preservation instinct of a moth at an electric lamp.  I've read online that mice *despise* the smell of peppermint and just leave at the scent! Seen a few videos and a few other studies confirming it BUT!  Ive read its bad for cats and as much as the furball does my head in, if anything happened to him because of me, I'd never forgive myself.   So i turn to you guys, heroes of fur babies, for help.  Any tips as to how to end the furry stand off? I dont want to hurt the freeloading furry fuzzies but i cant have them not paying rent anymore.   Thank you in advance!  A tired Cat mom, Kitti    P.s: Salem likes the sound of mice but i lowkey sat and watched him stare at the furry feck and he just laid down and went to sleep so he's made me aware of how much he cares about that idea. Get a cat they said, itll be free rodent repellent they said. Cats are mousers they said... tell that to mine please?", "c_root_id_A": "ff880dk", "c_root_id_B": "ff8f458", "created_at_utc_A": 1579668645, "created_at_utc_B": 1579675779, "score_A": 7, "score_B": 13, "human_ref_A": "First figure out how the mice are getting into your house and seal that hole or holes off. They can get through something as small as a quarter inch! (The distance between their eyes basically)   As messy as it is, flour around the perimeter of your walls will show you a trail.... perhaps keep the cat elsewhere for a day or two while you try to see where the tracks start.   Set up a baited live trap. \"Tin Cats\" they're called here. Some even have a plastic view window on the top so you can see if a mouse is in it.  They work awesome, and I've caught a dozen at a time in one. Like most traps, set it up against a wall (as mice run around the edge of things, instead of running across the center of a room).   They seem to like peanut butter or pet food as bait the most.  Which brings to the next point... keep your pet's food out of reach of the mice. It will lure them to the area, and then the baited trap won't work as well.   Also: ultrasonic mouse repellents do NOT work. Don't waste your money.", "human_ref_B": "I'm not a vet but maybe if you can afford it go on a holiday somewhere for a couple days with your cat and call a pest control company or something", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 7134.0, "score_ratio": 1.8571428571, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "es5ae2", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "So my cat is a dumbass... Hey so!  My flat has mice and, for obvious reasons, i wanna get rid of them. They aren't anyone's pets or mine and they're generally a pain.   Now i do have an (approx) 11 year old rescue domestic short hair cat (named salem, hes all black and likes to sass you) who is a complete idiot. He sticks his face into everything, tries chewing anything that looks like he shouldnt, is a typical teenager who does the very thing i told him not to do when my back is turned.  For those reasons (and more) im limited to what i can do to get rid of the mice. I cant use poison because my loveable idiot will definitely think its for him as a treat, i cant use traps because the black furred feline enjoys flicking his tail onto things he should probably know is bad by now and he has the self preservation instinct of a moth at an electric lamp.  I've read online that mice *despise* the smell of peppermint and just leave at the scent! Seen a few videos and a few other studies confirming it BUT!  Ive read its bad for cats and as much as the furball does my head in, if anything happened to him because of me, I'd never forgive myself.   So i turn to you guys, heroes of fur babies, for help.  Any tips as to how to end the furry stand off? I dont want to hurt the freeloading furry fuzzies but i cant have them not paying rent anymore.   Thank you in advance!  A tired Cat mom, Kitti    P.s: Salem likes the sound of mice but i lowkey sat and watched him stare at the furry feck and he just laid down and went to sleep so he's made me aware of how much he cares about that idea. Get a cat they said, itll be free rodent repellent they said. Cats are mousers they said... tell that to mine please?", "c_root_id_A": "ff7vqr0", "c_root_id_B": "ff8f458", "created_at_utc_A": 1579659504, "created_at_utc_B": 1579675779, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 13, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed.   This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "I'm not a vet but maybe if you can afford it go on a holiday somewhere for a couple days with your cat and call a pest control company or something", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 16275.0, "score_ratio": 13.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "es5ae2", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "So my cat is a dumbass... Hey so!  My flat has mice and, for obvious reasons, i wanna get rid of them. They aren't anyone's pets or mine and they're generally a pain.   Now i do have an (approx) 11 year old rescue domestic short hair cat (named salem, hes all black and likes to sass you) who is a complete idiot. He sticks his face into everything, tries chewing anything that looks like he shouldnt, is a typical teenager who does the very thing i told him not to do when my back is turned.  For those reasons (and more) im limited to what i can do to get rid of the mice. I cant use poison because my loveable idiot will definitely think its for him as a treat, i cant use traps because the black furred feline enjoys flicking his tail onto things he should probably know is bad by now and he has the self preservation instinct of a moth at an electric lamp.  I've read online that mice *despise* the smell of peppermint and just leave at the scent! Seen a few videos and a few other studies confirming it BUT!  Ive read its bad for cats and as much as the furball does my head in, if anything happened to him because of me, I'd never forgive myself.   So i turn to you guys, heroes of fur babies, for help.  Any tips as to how to end the furry stand off? I dont want to hurt the freeloading furry fuzzies but i cant have them not paying rent anymore.   Thank you in advance!  A tired Cat mom, Kitti    P.s: Salem likes the sound of mice but i lowkey sat and watched him stare at the furry feck and he just laid down and went to sleep so he's made me aware of how much he cares about that idea. Get a cat they said, itll be free rodent repellent they said. Cats are mousers they said... tell that to mine please?", "c_root_id_A": "ff880dk", "c_root_id_B": "ff7vqr0", "created_at_utc_A": 1579668645, "created_at_utc_B": 1579659504, "score_A": 7, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "First figure out how the mice are getting into your house and seal that hole or holes off. They can get through something as small as a quarter inch! (The distance between their eyes basically)   As messy as it is, flour around the perimeter of your walls will show you a trail.... perhaps keep the cat elsewhere for a day or two while you try to see where the tracks start.   Set up a baited live trap. \"Tin Cats\" they're called here. Some even have a plastic view window on the top so you can see if a mouse is in it.  They work awesome, and I've caught a dozen at a time in one. Like most traps, set it up against a wall (as mice run around the edge of things, instead of running across the center of a room).   They seem to like peanut butter or pet food as bait the most.  Which brings to the next point... keep your pet's food out of reach of the mice. It will lure them to the area, and then the baited trap won't work as well.   Also: ultrasonic mouse repellents do NOT work. Don't waste your money.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed.   This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 9141.0, "score_ratio": 7.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "es5ae2", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "So my cat is a dumbass... Hey so!  My flat has mice and, for obvious reasons, i wanna get rid of them. They aren't anyone's pets or mine and they're generally a pain.   Now i do have an (approx) 11 year old rescue domestic short hair cat (named salem, hes all black and likes to sass you) who is a complete idiot. He sticks his face into everything, tries chewing anything that looks like he shouldnt, is a typical teenager who does the very thing i told him not to do when my back is turned.  For those reasons (and more) im limited to what i can do to get rid of the mice. I cant use poison because my loveable idiot will definitely think its for him as a treat, i cant use traps because the black furred feline enjoys flicking his tail onto things he should probably know is bad by now and he has the self preservation instinct of a moth at an electric lamp.  I've read online that mice *despise* the smell of peppermint and just leave at the scent! Seen a few videos and a few other studies confirming it BUT!  Ive read its bad for cats and as much as the furball does my head in, if anything happened to him because of me, I'd never forgive myself.   So i turn to you guys, heroes of fur babies, for help.  Any tips as to how to end the furry stand off? I dont want to hurt the freeloading furry fuzzies but i cant have them not paying rent anymore.   Thank you in advance!  A tired Cat mom, Kitti    P.s: Salem likes the sound of mice but i lowkey sat and watched him stare at the furry feck and he just laid down and went to sleep so he's made me aware of how much he cares about that idea. Get a cat they said, itll be free rodent repellent they said. Cats are mousers they said... tell that to mine please?", "c_root_id_A": "ff8vsdu", "c_root_id_B": "ff7vqr0", "created_at_utc_A": 1579697756, "created_at_utc_B": 1579659504, "score_A": 5, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Humane traps! They're safe and everyone gets to live", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed.   This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 38252.0, "score_ratio": 5.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "es5ae2", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "So my cat is a dumbass... Hey so!  My flat has mice and, for obvious reasons, i wanna get rid of them. They aren't anyone's pets or mine and they're generally a pain.   Now i do have an (approx) 11 year old rescue domestic short hair cat (named salem, hes all black and likes to sass you) who is a complete idiot. He sticks his face into everything, tries chewing anything that looks like he shouldnt, is a typical teenager who does the very thing i told him not to do when my back is turned.  For those reasons (and more) im limited to what i can do to get rid of the mice. I cant use poison because my loveable idiot will definitely think its for him as a treat, i cant use traps because the black furred feline enjoys flicking his tail onto things he should probably know is bad by now and he has the self preservation instinct of a moth at an electric lamp.  I've read online that mice *despise* the smell of peppermint and just leave at the scent! Seen a few videos and a few other studies confirming it BUT!  Ive read its bad for cats and as much as the furball does my head in, if anything happened to him because of me, I'd never forgive myself.   So i turn to you guys, heroes of fur babies, for help.  Any tips as to how to end the furry stand off? I dont want to hurt the freeloading furry fuzzies but i cant have them not paying rent anymore.   Thank you in advance!  A tired Cat mom, Kitti    P.s: Salem likes the sound of mice but i lowkey sat and watched him stare at the furry feck and he just laid down and went to sleep so he's made me aware of how much he cares about that idea. Get a cat they said, itll be free rodent repellent they said. Cats are mousers they said... tell that to mine please?", "c_root_id_A": "ff7vqr0", "c_root_id_B": "ff96sig", "created_at_utc_A": 1579659504, "created_at_utc_B": 1579706185, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 4, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed.   This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "The safest thing would be to get more cats, professional cats! :)   Give each neighbour at least one cat. Have a few neighbourhood cats... take care of them and they will take care of your pest problem.    **Also there are these humane mouse traps that capture the critter without killing it. Safe for everybody.**     Oh, and some eagles, snakes (non venomous) and owls!", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 46681.0, "score_ratio": 4.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "es5ae2", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "So my cat is a dumbass... Hey so!  My flat has mice and, for obvious reasons, i wanna get rid of them. They aren't anyone's pets or mine and they're generally a pain.   Now i do have an (approx) 11 year old rescue domestic short hair cat (named salem, hes all black and likes to sass you) who is a complete idiot. He sticks his face into everything, tries chewing anything that looks like he shouldnt, is a typical teenager who does the very thing i told him not to do when my back is turned.  For those reasons (and more) im limited to what i can do to get rid of the mice. I cant use poison because my loveable idiot will definitely think its for him as a treat, i cant use traps because the black furred feline enjoys flicking his tail onto things he should probably know is bad by now and he has the self preservation instinct of a moth at an electric lamp.  I've read online that mice *despise* the smell of peppermint and just leave at the scent! Seen a few videos and a few other studies confirming it BUT!  Ive read its bad for cats and as much as the furball does my head in, if anything happened to him because of me, I'd never forgive myself.   So i turn to you guys, heroes of fur babies, for help.  Any tips as to how to end the furry stand off? I dont want to hurt the freeloading furry fuzzies but i cant have them not paying rent anymore.   Thank you in advance!  A tired Cat mom, Kitti    P.s: Salem likes the sound of mice but i lowkey sat and watched him stare at the furry feck and he just laid down and went to sleep so he's made me aware of how much he cares about that idea. Get a cat they said, itll be free rodent repellent they said. Cats are mousers they said... tell that to mine please?", "c_root_id_A": "ff7vqr0", "c_root_id_B": "ff9ffl7", "created_at_utc_A": 1579659504, "created_at_utc_B": 1579711864, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed.   This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "I\u2019ve used the ultrasonic sound emitters to deter mice and had good success. Maybe it\u2019ll work for you. :)", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 52360.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "es5ae2", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "So my cat is a dumbass... Hey so!  My flat has mice and, for obvious reasons, i wanna get rid of them. They aren't anyone's pets or mine and they're generally a pain.   Now i do have an (approx) 11 year old rescue domestic short hair cat (named salem, hes all black and likes to sass you) who is a complete idiot. He sticks his face into everything, tries chewing anything that looks like he shouldnt, is a typical teenager who does the very thing i told him not to do when my back is turned.  For those reasons (and more) im limited to what i can do to get rid of the mice. I cant use poison because my loveable idiot will definitely think its for him as a treat, i cant use traps because the black furred feline enjoys flicking his tail onto things he should probably know is bad by now and he has the self preservation instinct of a moth at an electric lamp.  I've read online that mice *despise* the smell of peppermint and just leave at the scent! Seen a few videos and a few other studies confirming it BUT!  Ive read its bad for cats and as much as the furball does my head in, if anything happened to him because of me, I'd never forgive myself.   So i turn to you guys, heroes of fur babies, for help.  Any tips as to how to end the furry stand off? I dont want to hurt the freeloading furry fuzzies but i cant have them not paying rent anymore.   Thank you in advance!  A tired Cat mom, Kitti    P.s: Salem likes the sound of mice but i lowkey sat and watched him stare at the furry feck and he just laid down and went to sleep so he's made me aware of how much he cares about that idea. Get a cat they said, itll be free rodent repellent they said. Cats are mousers they said... tell that to mine please?", "c_root_id_A": "ff7vqr0", "c_root_id_B": "ff9uxvb", "created_at_utc_A": 1579659504, "created_at_utc_B": 1579722001, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed.   This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "If you can't afford pest control, one night, leave a glass bowl out with a half inch of peanut oil at the bottom. Stairs leading to the edge. Lock your cat in a room overnight and leave the bowl out in the middle of the living room. You should have plenty of critters hanging out by morning. Toss em in a bin with some dawn and slick them about until they look pretty oil free. Switch em to just water. Switch them to a towel at the bottom bin. Once they are clean and dry release them MILES from your abode. Rinse and repeat.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 62497.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "es5ae2", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "So my cat is a dumbass... Hey so!  My flat has mice and, for obvious reasons, i wanna get rid of them. They aren't anyone's pets or mine and they're generally a pain.   Now i do have an (approx) 11 year old rescue domestic short hair cat (named salem, hes all black and likes to sass you) who is a complete idiot. He sticks his face into everything, tries chewing anything that looks like he shouldnt, is a typical teenager who does the very thing i told him not to do when my back is turned.  For those reasons (and more) im limited to what i can do to get rid of the mice. I cant use poison because my loveable idiot will definitely think its for him as a treat, i cant use traps because the black furred feline enjoys flicking his tail onto things he should probably know is bad by now and he has the self preservation instinct of a moth at an electric lamp.  I've read online that mice *despise* the smell of peppermint and just leave at the scent! Seen a few videos and a few other studies confirming it BUT!  Ive read its bad for cats and as much as the furball does my head in, if anything happened to him because of me, I'd never forgive myself.   So i turn to you guys, heroes of fur babies, for help.  Any tips as to how to end the furry stand off? I dont want to hurt the freeloading furry fuzzies but i cant have them not paying rent anymore.   Thank you in advance!  A tired Cat mom, Kitti    P.s: Salem likes the sound of mice but i lowkey sat and watched him stare at the furry feck and he just laid down and went to sleep so he's made me aware of how much he cares about that idea. Get a cat they said, itll be free rodent repellent they said. Cats are mousers they said... tell that to mine please?", "c_root_id_A": "ff7vqr0", "c_root_id_B": "ffa15de", "created_at_utc_A": 1579659504, "created_at_utc_B": 1579725791, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed.   This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "I don't know that anyone has answered this, but peppermint is bad for cats. It can cause them to develop aspiration pneumonia. (source). The ASPCA hasn't classified it as toxic, but you can read the article here that lists the negative effects.   It's kind of weird though because all the stuff I'm reading says that cats are supposed to keep mice away just by being there. Apparently, they smell the cat's urine, realize there's a predator there and don't want to come in. A recommendation that keeps coming up is to put containers of dirty cat litter around points of entry so the mice can smell it, but you would think they would know there was a cat in the house, especially if he just stares at them.  You can also try putting steel wool in any cracks or openings that they're coming through. They can't chew through it, so they will be stuck outside.   You can try onion. Mice don't like the smell of onion either. Onion is toxic to cats, but you can put the onion where the cat can't get it. It's not a smell/air thing like peppermint is.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 66287.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "gz9idi", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "My kitten is dropping a LOT of urinary crystals??? A (one month old?) stray kitten just walked inside my home yesterday and decided that she wants to live there. However, after letting her adapt to her new home, I noticed a small crystal protruding outside of her urethra after she peed. She had been very happy, playful, and unbothered by it so I didn't panic yet. She was also eating well and using the litterbox whenever she needed to.   Anyway the next day, I took her to the vet for a full checkup & communicated my concern about the crystal. The vet reassured me that it was HIGHLY unlikely that a kitten this young would have urinary stones, but complied after I insisted that I've seen one. Eventually, he conducted a kidney test & to his surprise, he found THREE crystals (they must've been big because she's been dropping a lot of tiny crystals ever since) however, they hadn't reached the kidneys yet. Instead, they were just. Kind of floating in her bladder.   He reassured me that because she's just a kitten, it must be because of her street diet (since she's a stray) & that it isn't chronic/hereditary. He also reassured me that I should see improvements within 2 weeks as long as she is given this tablet that supposedly dissolves these crystals. He said that its very uncommon for kittens to have , but that I shouldn't worry and it's good that I caught it before it transferred to her kidneys.   Im obviously freaking out now,,,, because I took her back home, gave her the tab, and hours later, I check the spot where she had been sleeping, and I find it filllllled with tiny crystals, and there was also one protruding from her urethra. She doesn't seem like she's in pain at all. She's eating and playing and being extra clingy and happy around me. So??? Im super worried because my cat died from kidney failure 3 weeks ago. MY QUESTIONS ARE:   1) How common are urinary crystals in kittens?   2) What might've caused it?   3) Will it kill her?  4) is it normal that she's dropping that many crystals? is that part of the recovery process?  5) What more is there to do??  Vet asked me to visit him in 2 weeks for a followup on her condition. Any comment would be appreciated, tysm!", "c_root_id_A": "ftfdy3r", "c_root_id_B": "ftfgd9n", "created_at_utc_A": 1591662952, "created_at_utc_B": 1591664342, "score_A": 41, "score_B": 55, "human_ref_A": "Did your vet see the crystals and put it under a microscope? If not, I recommend you place some in a ziploc to take to the vet to view.   I've never heard of this in a kitten this age. Usually crystals are so tiny that you have to view them under a microscope. But if your vet viewed it and said that's what it is, then they're likely correct.   There are a few other things that it might be, which is why I say bring in a sample to your vet. It's possible there is more than one thing going on.", "human_ref_B": "I agree with your vet in that urinary crystals are very rare in kittens, it is usually seen in older male cats. I have never heard or seen them in kittens in practice before so yours is definitely a unique case! Best advice I can give you is call your vet with your findings and voice your concern. They will know how best to proceed and if she needs to go in sooner than 2 weeks. If you're not content with their answer, you can always seek a second opinion from a different vet although that would require bringing her in for another separate exam and probably more testing. I hope the issue your little furbaby has resolves soon!", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 1390.0, "score_ratio": 1.3414634146, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "gz9idi", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "My kitten is dropping a LOT of urinary crystals??? A (one month old?) stray kitten just walked inside my home yesterday and decided that she wants to live there. However, after letting her adapt to her new home, I noticed a small crystal protruding outside of her urethra after she peed. She had been very happy, playful, and unbothered by it so I didn't panic yet. She was also eating well and using the litterbox whenever she needed to.   Anyway the next day, I took her to the vet for a full checkup & communicated my concern about the crystal. The vet reassured me that it was HIGHLY unlikely that a kitten this young would have urinary stones, but complied after I insisted that I've seen one. Eventually, he conducted a kidney test & to his surprise, he found THREE crystals (they must've been big because she's been dropping a lot of tiny crystals ever since) however, they hadn't reached the kidneys yet. Instead, they were just. Kind of floating in her bladder.   He reassured me that because she's just a kitten, it must be because of her street diet (since she's a stray) & that it isn't chronic/hereditary. He also reassured me that I should see improvements within 2 weeks as long as she is given this tablet that supposedly dissolves these crystals. He said that its very uncommon for kittens to have , but that I shouldn't worry and it's good that I caught it before it transferred to her kidneys.   Im obviously freaking out now,,,, because I took her back home, gave her the tab, and hours later, I check the spot where she had been sleeping, and I find it filllllled with tiny crystals, and there was also one protruding from her urethra. She doesn't seem like she's in pain at all. She's eating and playing and being extra clingy and happy around me. So??? Im super worried because my cat died from kidney failure 3 weeks ago. MY QUESTIONS ARE:   1) How common are urinary crystals in kittens?   2) What might've caused it?   3) Will it kill her?  4) is it normal that she's dropping that many crystals? is that part of the recovery process?  5) What more is there to do??  Vet asked me to visit him in 2 weeks for a followup on her condition. Any comment would be appreciated, tysm!", "c_root_id_A": "ftey2zr", "c_root_id_B": "ftfgd9n", "created_at_utc_A": 1591654261, "created_at_utc_B": 1591664342, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 55, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "I agree with your vet in that urinary crystals are very rare in kittens, it is usually seen in older male cats. I have never heard or seen them in kittens in practice before so yours is definitely a unique case! Best advice I can give you is call your vet with your findings and voice your concern. They will know how best to proceed and if she needs to go in sooner than 2 weeks. If you're not content with their answer, you can always seek a second opinion from a different vet although that would require bringing her in for another separate exam and probably more testing. I hope the issue your little furbaby has resolves soon!", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 10081.0, "score_ratio": 55.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "gz9idi", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "My kitten is dropping a LOT of urinary crystals??? A (one month old?) stray kitten just walked inside my home yesterday and decided that she wants to live there. However, after letting her adapt to her new home, I noticed a small crystal protruding outside of her urethra after she peed. She had been very happy, playful, and unbothered by it so I didn't panic yet. She was also eating well and using the litterbox whenever she needed to.   Anyway the next day, I took her to the vet for a full checkup & communicated my concern about the crystal. The vet reassured me that it was HIGHLY unlikely that a kitten this young would have urinary stones, but complied after I insisted that I've seen one. Eventually, he conducted a kidney test & to his surprise, he found THREE crystals (they must've been big because she's been dropping a lot of tiny crystals ever since) however, they hadn't reached the kidneys yet. Instead, they were just. Kind of floating in her bladder.   He reassured me that because she's just a kitten, it must be because of her street diet (since she's a stray) & that it isn't chronic/hereditary. He also reassured me that I should see improvements within 2 weeks as long as she is given this tablet that supposedly dissolves these crystals. He said that its very uncommon for kittens to have , but that I shouldn't worry and it's good that I caught it before it transferred to her kidneys.   Im obviously freaking out now,,,, because I took her back home, gave her the tab, and hours later, I check the spot where she had been sleeping, and I find it filllllled with tiny crystals, and there was also one protruding from her urethra. She doesn't seem like she's in pain at all. She's eating and playing and being extra clingy and happy around me. So??? Im super worried because my cat died from kidney failure 3 weeks ago. MY QUESTIONS ARE:   1) How common are urinary crystals in kittens?   2) What might've caused it?   3) Will it kill her?  4) is it normal that she's dropping that many crystals? is that part of the recovery process?  5) What more is there to do??  Vet asked me to visit him in 2 weeks for a followup on her condition. Any comment would be appreciated, tysm!", "c_root_id_A": "ftey2zr", "c_root_id_B": "ftfdy3r", "created_at_utc_A": 1591654261, "created_at_utc_B": 1591662952, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 41, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Did your vet see the crystals and put it under a microscope? If not, I recommend you place some in a ziploc to take to the vet to view.   I've never heard of this in a kitten this age. Usually crystals are so tiny that you have to view them under a microscope. But if your vet viewed it and said that's what it is, then they're likely correct.   There are a few other things that it might be, which is why I say bring in a sample to your vet. It's possible there is more than one thing going on.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 8691.0, "score_ratio": 41.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "gz9idi", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "My kitten is dropping a LOT of urinary crystals??? A (one month old?) stray kitten just walked inside my home yesterday and decided that she wants to live there. However, after letting her adapt to her new home, I noticed a small crystal protruding outside of her urethra after she peed. She had been very happy, playful, and unbothered by it so I didn't panic yet. She was also eating well and using the litterbox whenever she needed to.   Anyway the next day, I took her to the vet for a full checkup & communicated my concern about the crystal. The vet reassured me that it was HIGHLY unlikely that a kitten this young would have urinary stones, but complied after I insisted that I've seen one. Eventually, he conducted a kidney test & to his surprise, he found THREE crystals (they must've been big because she's been dropping a lot of tiny crystals ever since) however, they hadn't reached the kidneys yet. Instead, they were just. Kind of floating in her bladder.   He reassured me that because she's just a kitten, it must be because of her street diet (since she's a stray) & that it isn't chronic/hereditary. He also reassured me that I should see improvements within 2 weeks as long as she is given this tablet that supposedly dissolves these crystals. He said that its very uncommon for kittens to have , but that I shouldn't worry and it's good that I caught it before it transferred to her kidneys.   Im obviously freaking out now,,,, because I took her back home, gave her the tab, and hours later, I check the spot where she had been sleeping, and I find it filllllled with tiny crystals, and there was also one protruding from her urethra. She doesn't seem like she's in pain at all. She's eating and playing and being extra clingy and happy around me. So??? Im super worried because my cat died from kidney failure 3 weeks ago. MY QUESTIONS ARE:   1) How common are urinary crystals in kittens?   2) What might've caused it?   3) Will it kill her?  4) is it normal that she's dropping that many crystals? is that part of the recovery process?  5) What more is there to do??  Vet asked me to visit him in 2 weeks for a followup on her condition. Any comment would be appreciated, tysm!", "c_root_id_A": "ftfkvu4", "c_root_id_B": "ftey2zr", "created_at_utc_A": 1591666947, "created_at_utc_B": 1591654261, "score_A": 17, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I am not a vet, however, if you're that concerned (and I would be, too) please contact your vet and let him know. If you're not satisfied or simply still concerned, please get a second opinion with another vet. I'd recommend seeing a specialist internist or a nephrologist.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 12686.0, "score_ratio": 17.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "gz9idi", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "My kitten is dropping a LOT of urinary crystals??? A (one month old?) stray kitten just walked inside my home yesterday and decided that she wants to live there. However, after letting her adapt to her new home, I noticed a small crystal protruding outside of her urethra after she peed. She had been very happy, playful, and unbothered by it so I didn't panic yet. She was also eating well and using the litterbox whenever she needed to.   Anyway the next day, I took her to the vet for a full checkup & communicated my concern about the crystal. The vet reassured me that it was HIGHLY unlikely that a kitten this young would have urinary stones, but complied after I insisted that I've seen one. Eventually, he conducted a kidney test & to his surprise, he found THREE crystals (they must've been big because she's been dropping a lot of tiny crystals ever since) however, they hadn't reached the kidneys yet. Instead, they were just. Kind of floating in her bladder.   He reassured me that because she's just a kitten, it must be because of her street diet (since she's a stray) & that it isn't chronic/hereditary. He also reassured me that I should see improvements within 2 weeks as long as she is given this tablet that supposedly dissolves these crystals. He said that its very uncommon for kittens to have , but that I shouldn't worry and it's good that I caught it before it transferred to her kidneys.   Im obviously freaking out now,,,, because I took her back home, gave her the tab, and hours later, I check the spot where she had been sleeping, and I find it filllllled with tiny crystals, and there was also one protruding from her urethra. She doesn't seem like she's in pain at all. She's eating and playing and being extra clingy and happy around me. So??? Im super worried because my cat died from kidney failure 3 weeks ago. MY QUESTIONS ARE:   1) How common are urinary crystals in kittens?   2) What might've caused it?   3) Will it kill her?  4) is it normal that she's dropping that many crystals? is that part of the recovery process?  5) What more is there to do??  Vet asked me to visit him in 2 weeks for a followup on her condition. Any comment would be appreciated, tysm!", "c_root_id_A": "ftg3uov", "c_root_id_B": "ftfz6g5", "created_at_utc_A": 1591679183, "created_at_utc_B": 1591675764, "score_A": 13, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "One thing you can do in the meantime is encourage kitty to stay hydrated. If she\u2019s not much of a water drinker, try setting out a different glass or bowl\u2014sometimes that will help. A fountain is great. Use wet food at least part of the time if possible.", "human_ref_B": "Not a vet- registered veterinary technician here. I would definitely call and document the findings in her bed and urethra, but also consider talking with a specialist. If you\u2019re willing, an internist would be able to give you more answers. Good luck with your fur baby!", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 3419.0, "score_ratio": 6.5, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "gz9idi", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "My kitten is dropping a LOT of urinary crystals??? A (one month old?) stray kitten just walked inside my home yesterday and decided that she wants to live there. However, after letting her adapt to her new home, I noticed a small crystal protruding outside of her urethra after she peed. She had been very happy, playful, and unbothered by it so I didn't panic yet. She was also eating well and using the litterbox whenever she needed to.   Anyway the next day, I took her to the vet for a full checkup & communicated my concern about the crystal. The vet reassured me that it was HIGHLY unlikely that a kitten this young would have urinary stones, but complied after I insisted that I've seen one. Eventually, he conducted a kidney test & to his surprise, he found THREE crystals (they must've been big because she's been dropping a lot of tiny crystals ever since) however, they hadn't reached the kidneys yet. Instead, they were just. Kind of floating in her bladder.   He reassured me that because she's just a kitten, it must be because of her street diet (since she's a stray) & that it isn't chronic/hereditary. He also reassured me that I should see improvements within 2 weeks as long as she is given this tablet that supposedly dissolves these crystals. He said that its very uncommon for kittens to have , but that I shouldn't worry and it's good that I caught it before it transferred to her kidneys.   Im obviously freaking out now,,,, because I took her back home, gave her the tab, and hours later, I check the spot where she had been sleeping, and I find it filllllled with tiny crystals, and there was also one protruding from her urethra. She doesn't seem like she's in pain at all. She's eating and playing and being extra clingy and happy around me. So??? Im super worried because my cat died from kidney failure 3 weeks ago. MY QUESTIONS ARE:   1) How common are urinary crystals in kittens?   2) What might've caused it?   3) Will it kill her?  4) is it normal that she's dropping that many crystals? is that part of the recovery process?  5) What more is there to do??  Vet asked me to visit him in 2 weeks for a followup on her condition. Any comment would be appreciated, tysm!", "c_root_id_A": "ftey2zr", "c_root_id_B": "ftg3uov", "created_at_utc_A": 1591654261, "created_at_utc_B": 1591679183, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 13, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "One thing you can do in the meantime is encourage kitty to stay hydrated. If she\u2019s not much of a water drinker, try setting out a different glass or bowl\u2014sometimes that will help. A fountain is great. Use wet food at least part of the time if possible.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 24922.0, "score_ratio": 13.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "gz9idi", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "My kitten is dropping a LOT of urinary crystals??? A (one month old?) stray kitten just walked inside my home yesterday and decided that she wants to live there. However, after letting her adapt to her new home, I noticed a small crystal protruding outside of her urethra after she peed. She had been very happy, playful, and unbothered by it so I didn't panic yet. She was also eating well and using the litterbox whenever she needed to.   Anyway the next day, I took her to the vet for a full checkup & communicated my concern about the crystal. The vet reassured me that it was HIGHLY unlikely that a kitten this young would have urinary stones, but complied after I insisted that I've seen one. Eventually, he conducted a kidney test & to his surprise, he found THREE crystals (they must've been big because she's been dropping a lot of tiny crystals ever since) however, they hadn't reached the kidneys yet. Instead, they were just. Kind of floating in her bladder.   He reassured me that because she's just a kitten, it must be because of her street diet (since she's a stray) & that it isn't chronic/hereditary. He also reassured me that I should see improvements within 2 weeks as long as she is given this tablet that supposedly dissolves these crystals. He said that its very uncommon for kittens to have , but that I shouldn't worry and it's good that I caught it before it transferred to her kidneys.   Im obviously freaking out now,,,, because I took her back home, gave her the tab, and hours later, I check the spot where she had been sleeping, and I find it filllllled with tiny crystals, and there was also one protruding from her urethra. She doesn't seem like she's in pain at all. She's eating and playing and being extra clingy and happy around me. So??? Im super worried because my cat died from kidney failure 3 weeks ago. MY QUESTIONS ARE:   1) How common are urinary crystals in kittens?   2) What might've caused it?   3) Will it kill her?  4) is it normal that she's dropping that many crystals? is that part of the recovery process?  5) What more is there to do??  Vet asked me to visit him in 2 weeks for a followup on her condition. Any comment would be appreciated, tysm!", "c_root_id_A": "ftg3uov", "c_root_id_B": "ftfnn9d", "created_at_utc_A": 1591679183, "created_at_utc_B": 1591668563, "score_A": 13, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "One thing you can do in the meantime is encourage kitty to stay hydrated. If she\u2019s not much of a water drinker, try setting out a different glass or bowl\u2014sometimes that will help. A fountain is great. Use wet food at least part of the time if possible.", "human_ref_B": "Not a vet. What does the diet consist of?", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 10620.0, "score_ratio": 13.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "gz9idi", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "My kitten is dropping a LOT of urinary crystals??? A (one month old?) stray kitten just walked inside my home yesterday and decided that she wants to live there. However, after letting her adapt to her new home, I noticed a small crystal protruding outside of her urethra after she peed. She had been very happy, playful, and unbothered by it so I didn't panic yet. She was also eating well and using the litterbox whenever she needed to.   Anyway the next day, I took her to the vet for a full checkup & communicated my concern about the crystal. The vet reassured me that it was HIGHLY unlikely that a kitten this young would have urinary stones, but complied after I insisted that I've seen one. Eventually, he conducted a kidney test & to his surprise, he found THREE crystals (they must've been big because she's been dropping a lot of tiny crystals ever since) however, they hadn't reached the kidneys yet. Instead, they were just. Kind of floating in her bladder.   He reassured me that because she's just a kitten, it must be because of her street diet (since she's a stray) & that it isn't chronic/hereditary. He also reassured me that I should see improvements within 2 weeks as long as she is given this tablet that supposedly dissolves these crystals. He said that its very uncommon for kittens to have , but that I shouldn't worry and it's good that I caught it before it transferred to her kidneys.   Im obviously freaking out now,,,, because I took her back home, gave her the tab, and hours later, I check the spot where she had been sleeping, and I find it filllllled with tiny crystals, and there was also one protruding from her urethra. She doesn't seem like she's in pain at all. She's eating and playing and being extra clingy and happy around me. So??? Im super worried because my cat died from kidney failure 3 weeks ago. MY QUESTIONS ARE:   1) How common are urinary crystals in kittens?   2) What might've caused it?   3) Will it kill her?  4) is it normal that she's dropping that many crystals? is that part of the recovery process?  5) What more is there to do??  Vet asked me to visit him in 2 weeks for a followup on her condition. Any comment would be appreciated, tysm!", "c_root_id_A": "ftg70oz", "c_root_id_B": "ftfz6g5", "created_at_utc_A": 1591681678, "created_at_utc_B": 1591675764, "score_A": 8, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "What is the kidney test that you are referring to? Are we talking about a urinalysis +/- bloodwork? Or did you vet do some sort of imaging of the abdomen (xray or ultrasound)? I wonder if you meant to say that you cat has three *stones* in her bladder? You are welcome to post any lab tests here for us to review. If they did a urinalysis we should know the type of crystal that is present, and sometimes that can help is determining the cause.  As others have said you may wish to request referral to an internal medicine specialist. This is uncommon in kittens so further investigation may be warranted. The stones themselves take some nuance to manage, but some types of stones/crystals can result from an underlying disease that may need to be sought out.", "human_ref_B": "Not a vet- registered veterinary technician here. I would definitely call and document the findings in her bed and urethra, but also consider talking with a specialist. If you\u2019re willing, an internist would be able to give you more answers. Good luck with your fur baby!", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 5914.0, "score_ratio": 4.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "gz9idi", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "My kitten is dropping a LOT of urinary crystals??? A (one month old?) stray kitten just walked inside my home yesterday and decided that she wants to live there. However, after letting her adapt to her new home, I noticed a small crystal protruding outside of her urethra after she peed. She had been very happy, playful, and unbothered by it so I didn't panic yet. She was also eating well and using the litterbox whenever she needed to.   Anyway the next day, I took her to the vet for a full checkup & communicated my concern about the crystal. The vet reassured me that it was HIGHLY unlikely that a kitten this young would have urinary stones, but complied after I insisted that I've seen one. Eventually, he conducted a kidney test & to his surprise, he found THREE crystals (they must've been big because she's been dropping a lot of tiny crystals ever since) however, they hadn't reached the kidneys yet. Instead, they were just. Kind of floating in her bladder.   He reassured me that because she's just a kitten, it must be because of her street diet (since she's a stray) & that it isn't chronic/hereditary. He also reassured me that I should see improvements within 2 weeks as long as she is given this tablet that supposedly dissolves these crystals. He said that its very uncommon for kittens to have , but that I shouldn't worry and it's good that I caught it before it transferred to her kidneys.   Im obviously freaking out now,,,, because I took her back home, gave her the tab, and hours later, I check the spot where she had been sleeping, and I find it filllllled with tiny crystals, and there was also one protruding from her urethra. She doesn't seem like she's in pain at all. She's eating and playing and being extra clingy and happy around me. So??? Im super worried because my cat died from kidney failure 3 weeks ago. MY QUESTIONS ARE:   1) How common are urinary crystals in kittens?   2) What might've caused it?   3) Will it kill her?  4) is it normal that she's dropping that many crystals? is that part of the recovery process?  5) What more is there to do??  Vet asked me to visit him in 2 weeks for a followup on her condition. Any comment would be appreciated, tysm!", "c_root_id_A": "ftg70oz", "c_root_id_B": "ftey2zr", "created_at_utc_A": 1591681678, "created_at_utc_B": 1591654261, "score_A": 8, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "What is the kidney test that you are referring to? Are we talking about a urinalysis +/- bloodwork? Or did you vet do some sort of imaging of the abdomen (xray or ultrasound)? I wonder if you meant to say that you cat has three *stones* in her bladder? You are welcome to post any lab tests here for us to review. If they did a urinalysis we should know the type of crystal that is present, and sometimes that can help is determining the cause.  As others have said you may wish to request referral to an internal medicine specialist. This is uncommon in kittens so further investigation may be warranted. The stones themselves take some nuance to manage, but some types of stones/crystals can result from an underlying disease that may need to be sought out.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 27417.0, "score_ratio": 8.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "gz9idi", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "My kitten is dropping a LOT of urinary crystals??? A (one month old?) stray kitten just walked inside my home yesterday and decided that she wants to live there. However, after letting her adapt to her new home, I noticed a small crystal protruding outside of her urethra after she peed. She had been very happy, playful, and unbothered by it so I didn't panic yet. She was also eating well and using the litterbox whenever she needed to.   Anyway the next day, I took her to the vet for a full checkup & communicated my concern about the crystal. The vet reassured me that it was HIGHLY unlikely that a kitten this young would have urinary stones, but complied after I insisted that I've seen one. Eventually, he conducted a kidney test & to his surprise, he found THREE crystals (they must've been big because she's been dropping a lot of tiny crystals ever since) however, they hadn't reached the kidneys yet. Instead, they were just. Kind of floating in her bladder.   He reassured me that because she's just a kitten, it must be because of her street diet (since she's a stray) & that it isn't chronic/hereditary. He also reassured me that I should see improvements within 2 weeks as long as she is given this tablet that supposedly dissolves these crystals. He said that its very uncommon for kittens to have , but that I shouldn't worry and it's good that I caught it before it transferred to her kidneys.   Im obviously freaking out now,,,, because I took her back home, gave her the tab, and hours later, I check the spot where she had been sleeping, and I find it filllllled with tiny crystals, and there was also one protruding from her urethra. She doesn't seem like she's in pain at all. She's eating and playing and being extra clingy and happy around me. So??? Im super worried because my cat died from kidney failure 3 weeks ago. MY QUESTIONS ARE:   1) How common are urinary crystals in kittens?   2) What might've caused it?   3) Will it kill her?  4) is it normal that she's dropping that many crystals? is that part of the recovery process?  5) What more is there to do??  Vet asked me to visit him in 2 weeks for a followup on her condition. Any comment would be appreciated, tysm!", "c_root_id_A": "ftfnn9d", "c_root_id_B": "ftg70oz", "created_at_utc_A": 1591668563, "created_at_utc_B": 1591681678, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 8, "human_ref_A": "Not a vet. What does the diet consist of?", "human_ref_B": "What is the kidney test that you are referring to? Are we talking about a urinalysis +/- bloodwork? Or did you vet do some sort of imaging of the abdomen (xray or ultrasound)? I wonder if you meant to say that you cat has three *stones* in her bladder? You are welcome to post any lab tests here for us to review. If they did a urinalysis we should know the type of crystal that is present, and sometimes that can help is determining the cause.  As others have said you may wish to request referral to an internal medicine specialist. This is uncommon in kittens so further investigation may be warranted. The stones themselves take some nuance to manage, but some types of stones/crystals can result from an underlying disease that may need to be sought out.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 13115.0, "score_ratio": 8.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "gz9idi", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "My kitten is dropping a LOT of urinary crystals??? A (one month old?) stray kitten just walked inside my home yesterday and decided that she wants to live there. However, after letting her adapt to her new home, I noticed a small crystal protruding outside of her urethra after she peed. She had been very happy, playful, and unbothered by it so I didn't panic yet. She was also eating well and using the litterbox whenever she needed to.   Anyway the next day, I took her to the vet for a full checkup & communicated my concern about the crystal. The vet reassured me that it was HIGHLY unlikely that a kitten this young would have urinary stones, but complied after I insisted that I've seen one. Eventually, he conducted a kidney test & to his surprise, he found THREE crystals (they must've been big because she's been dropping a lot of tiny crystals ever since) however, they hadn't reached the kidneys yet. Instead, they were just. Kind of floating in her bladder.   He reassured me that because she's just a kitten, it must be because of her street diet (since she's a stray) & that it isn't chronic/hereditary. He also reassured me that I should see improvements within 2 weeks as long as she is given this tablet that supposedly dissolves these crystals. He said that its very uncommon for kittens to have , but that I shouldn't worry and it's good that I caught it before it transferred to her kidneys.   Im obviously freaking out now,,,, because I took her back home, gave her the tab, and hours later, I check the spot where she had been sleeping, and I find it filllllled with tiny crystals, and there was also one protruding from her urethra. She doesn't seem like she's in pain at all. She's eating and playing and being extra clingy and happy around me. So??? Im super worried because my cat died from kidney failure 3 weeks ago. MY QUESTIONS ARE:   1) How common are urinary crystals in kittens?   2) What might've caused it?   3) Will it kill her?  4) is it normal that she's dropping that many crystals? is that part of the recovery process?  5) What more is there to do??  Vet asked me to visit him in 2 weeks for a followup on her condition. Any comment would be appreciated, tysm!", "c_root_id_A": "ftfz6g5", "c_root_id_B": "ftey2zr", "created_at_utc_A": 1591675764, "created_at_utc_B": 1591654261, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Not a vet- registered veterinary technician here. I would definitely call and document the findings in her bed and urethra, but also consider talking with a specialist. If you\u2019re willing, an internist would be able to give you more answers. Good luck with your fur baby!", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 21503.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "gz9idi", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "My kitten is dropping a LOT of urinary crystals??? A (one month old?) stray kitten just walked inside my home yesterday and decided that she wants to live there. However, after letting her adapt to her new home, I noticed a small crystal protruding outside of her urethra after she peed. She had been very happy, playful, and unbothered by it so I didn't panic yet. She was also eating well and using the litterbox whenever she needed to.   Anyway the next day, I took her to the vet for a full checkup & communicated my concern about the crystal. The vet reassured me that it was HIGHLY unlikely that a kitten this young would have urinary stones, but complied after I insisted that I've seen one. Eventually, he conducted a kidney test & to his surprise, he found THREE crystals (they must've been big because she's been dropping a lot of tiny crystals ever since) however, they hadn't reached the kidneys yet. Instead, they were just. Kind of floating in her bladder.   He reassured me that because she's just a kitten, it must be because of her street diet (since she's a stray) & that it isn't chronic/hereditary. He also reassured me that I should see improvements within 2 weeks as long as she is given this tablet that supposedly dissolves these crystals. He said that its very uncommon for kittens to have , but that I shouldn't worry and it's good that I caught it before it transferred to her kidneys.   Im obviously freaking out now,,,, because I took her back home, gave her the tab, and hours later, I check the spot where she had been sleeping, and I find it filllllled with tiny crystals, and there was also one protruding from her urethra. She doesn't seem like she's in pain at all. She's eating and playing and being extra clingy and happy around me. So??? Im super worried because my cat died from kidney failure 3 weeks ago. MY QUESTIONS ARE:   1) How common are urinary crystals in kittens?   2) What might've caused it?   3) Will it kill her?  4) is it normal that she's dropping that many crystals? is that part of the recovery process?  5) What more is there to do??  Vet asked me to visit him in 2 weeks for a followup on her condition. Any comment would be appreciated, tysm!", "c_root_id_A": "ftfz6g5", "c_root_id_B": "ftfnn9d", "created_at_utc_A": 1591675764, "created_at_utc_B": 1591668563, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Not a vet- registered veterinary technician here. I would definitely call and document the findings in her bed and urethra, but also consider talking with a specialist. If you\u2019re willing, an internist would be able to give you more answers. Good luck with your fur baby!", "human_ref_B": "Not a vet. What does the diet consist of?", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 7201.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "rkx4u7", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.72, "history": "My vet canceled my cat\u2019s kidney prescription food and wont allow us to receive it unless I go for a check up. My vet already prescribed kidney disease food last year and now they are denying his monthly supply from being shipped. They said they need to check on him again, which we all know that kidney disease does not go away. Im already paying extra for the medicinal food plus monitoring his hydration. The cat is doing great and shows no signs of illness. Now the vet is holding me hostage unless I go to them and spend around $300 for blood work and check up when we already know the kidney disease is still gonna be there and is one of the most common ways senior cats die. Anyone know how I could get the food without prescription?? Or any options for other foods? Thanks in advance.", "c_root_id_A": "hpcj1p7", "c_root_id_B": "hpcaqj3", "created_at_utc_A": 1640037784, "created_at_utc_B": 1640034276, "score_A": 557, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Legally, the vet cannot write a new prescription if they have not seen the animal in more than a year.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 3508.0, "score_ratio": 557.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "rkx4u7", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.72, "history": "My vet canceled my cat\u2019s kidney prescription food and wont allow us to receive it unless I go for a check up. My vet already prescribed kidney disease food last year and now they are denying his monthly supply from being shipped. They said they need to check on him again, which we all know that kidney disease does not go away. Im already paying extra for the medicinal food plus monitoring his hydration. The cat is doing great and shows no signs of illness. Now the vet is holding me hostage unless I go to them and spend around $300 for blood work and check up when we already know the kidney disease is still gonna be there and is one of the most common ways senior cats die. Anyone know how I could get the food without prescription?? Or any options for other foods? Thanks in advance.", "c_root_id_A": "hpcpvod", "c_root_id_B": "hpcaqj3", "created_at_utc_A": 1640040736, "created_at_utc_B": 1640034276, "score_A": 236, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "All therapeutic diets require a valid (within the year) exam. Otherwise the doctor does not have an up to date veterinary client patient relationship and would be breaking their states licensing laws.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 6460.0, "score_ratio": 236.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "rkx4u7", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.72, "history": "My vet canceled my cat\u2019s kidney prescription food and wont allow us to receive it unless I go for a check up. My vet already prescribed kidney disease food last year and now they are denying his monthly supply from being shipped. They said they need to check on him again, which we all know that kidney disease does not go away. Im already paying extra for the medicinal food plus monitoring his hydration. The cat is doing great and shows no signs of illness. Now the vet is holding me hostage unless I go to them and spend around $300 for blood work and check up when we already know the kidney disease is still gonna be there and is one of the most common ways senior cats die. Anyone know how I could get the food without prescription?? Or any options for other foods? Thanks in advance.", "c_root_id_A": "hpdgsvm", "c_root_id_B": "hpcaqj3", "created_at_utc_A": 1640053007, "created_at_utc_B": 1640034276, "score_A": 182, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "This has already been answered, but yes, legally they have to perform an exam after a years up. I\u2019m sure you can get away with skipping the bloodwork, but the exam is necessary.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 18731.0, "score_ratio": 182.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "rkx4u7", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.72, "history": "My vet canceled my cat\u2019s kidney prescription food and wont allow us to receive it unless I go for a check up. My vet already prescribed kidney disease food last year and now they are denying his monthly supply from being shipped. They said they need to check on him again, which we all know that kidney disease does not go away. Im already paying extra for the medicinal food plus monitoring his hydration. The cat is doing great and shows no signs of illness. Now the vet is holding me hostage unless I go to them and spend around $300 for blood work and check up when we already know the kidney disease is still gonna be there and is one of the most common ways senior cats die. Anyone know how I could get the food without prescription?? Or any options for other foods? Thanks in advance.", "c_root_id_A": "hpcaqj3", "c_root_id_B": "hpdm911", "created_at_utc_A": 1640034276, "created_at_utc_B": 1640055540, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 76, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Means your vet is following the law. A prescription diet requires check-ups ensuring the food is still needed.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 21264.0, "score_ratio": 76.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "rkx4u7", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.72, "history": "My vet canceled my cat\u2019s kidney prescription food and wont allow us to receive it unless I go for a check up. My vet already prescribed kidney disease food last year and now they are denying his monthly supply from being shipped. They said they need to check on him again, which we all know that kidney disease does not go away. Im already paying extra for the medicinal food plus monitoring his hydration. The cat is doing great and shows no signs of illness. Now the vet is holding me hostage unless I go to them and spend around $300 for blood work and check up when we already know the kidney disease is still gonna be there and is one of the most common ways senior cats die. Anyone know how I could get the food without prescription?? Or any options for other foods? Thanks in advance.", "c_root_id_A": "hpcaqj3", "c_root_id_B": "hpdcn68", "created_at_utc_A": 1640034276, "created_at_utc_B": 1640051100, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 43, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "It may seem like the exam and blood work are not worth it but there likely has been worsening of the disease which may indicate additional therapies. In addition, if your car is older it may have developed additional problems that you aren\u2019t currently aware of. I understand it may seem expensive but older animals should be seen at a minimum yearly, AAHA actually recommends 2 exams per year for senior cats. It\u2019s entirely possible that nothing has really changed but nobody can know that for sure without doing an exam and blood work.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 16824.0, "score_ratio": 43.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "rkx4u7", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.72, "history": "My vet canceled my cat\u2019s kidney prescription food and wont allow us to receive it unless I go for a check up. My vet already prescribed kidney disease food last year and now they are denying his monthly supply from being shipped. They said they need to check on him again, which we all know that kidney disease does not go away. Im already paying extra for the medicinal food plus monitoring his hydration. The cat is doing great and shows no signs of illness. Now the vet is holding me hostage unless I go to them and spend around $300 for blood work and check up when we already know the kidney disease is still gonna be there and is one of the most common ways senior cats die. Anyone know how I could get the food without prescription?? Or any options for other foods? Thanks in advance.", "c_root_id_A": "hpcaqj3", "c_root_id_B": "hpd154x", "created_at_utc_A": 1640034276, "created_at_utc_B": 1640045777, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 37, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Call the vet and ask if they can approve one bag of cat food until your appointment. Drs can not just continue an RX without knowing what is going on with your cat. It doesn\u2019t matter if he\u2019s not showing signs of illness, plenty of animals don\u2019t until it\u2019s too late.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 11501.0, "score_ratio": 37.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "rkx4u7", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.72, "history": "My vet canceled my cat\u2019s kidney prescription food and wont allow us to receive it unless I go for a check up. My vet already prescribed kidney disease food last year and now they are denying his monthly supply from being shipped. They said they need to check on him again, which we all know that kidney disease does not go away. Im already paying extra for the medicinal food plus monitoring his hydration. The cat is doing great and shows no signs of illness. Now the vet is holding me hostage unless I go to them and spend around $300 for blood work and check up when we already know the kidney disease is still gonna be there and is one of the most common ways senior cats die. Anyone know how I could get the food without prescription?? Or any options for other foods? Thanks in advance.", "c_root_id_A": "hpcaqj3", "c_root_id_B": "hpdy61l", "created_at_utc_A": 1640034276, "created_at_utc_B": 1640061225, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 23, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "You need the exam for the prescription and you need the blood work to see if the prescription is still working and how/if cat kidneys are operating worse now. Yes they can do that.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 26949.0, "score_ratio": 23.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "rkx4u7", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.72, "history": "My vet canceled my cat\u2019s kidney prescription food and wont allow us to receive it unless I go for a check up. My vet already prescribed kidney disease food last year and now they are denying his monthly supply from being shipped. They said they need to check on him again, which we all know that kidney disease does not go away. Im already paying extra for the medicinal food plus monitoring his hydration. The cat is doing great and shows no signs of illness. Now the vet is holding me hostage unless I go to them and spend around $300 for blood work and check up when we already know the kidney disease is still gonna be there and is one of the most common ways senior cats die. Anyone know how I could get the food without prescription?? Or any options for other foods? Thanks in advance.", "c_root_id_A": "hpdzvlq", "c_root_id_B": "hpcaqj3", "created_at_utc_A": 1640062152, "created_at_utc_B": 1640034276, "score_A": 18, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "It is legally necessary for your vet to do a doctor's exam to re-prescibe food. I would ask your vet office if they have an option to send the bloodwork out to a lab. It might take a couple of days to get results, but sometimes it is cheaper than doing the bloodwork in house at the hospital.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 27876.0, "score_ratio": 18.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "rkx4u7", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.72, "history": "My vet canceled my cat\u2019s kidney prescription food and wont allow us to receive it unless I go for a check up. My vet already prescribed kidney disease food last year and now they are denying his monthly supply from being shipped. They said they need to check on him again, which we all know that kidney disease does not go away. Im already paying extra for the medicinal food plus monitoring his hydration. The cat is doing great and shows no signs of illness. Now the vet is holding me hostage unless I go to them and spend around $300 for blood work and check up when we already know the kidney disease is still gonna be there and is one of the most common ways senior cats die. Anyone know how I could get the food without prescription?? Or any options for other foods? Thanks in advance.", "c_root_id_A": "hpe13ps", "c_root_id_B": "hpcaqj3", "created_at_utc_A": 1640062832, "created_at_utc_B": 1640034276, "score_A": 11, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Hey, try being a diabetic human and having to go in every six months to confirm that yes, still a non-functional pancreas! Welcome to healthcare.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 28556.0, "score_ratio": 11.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "rkx4u7", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.72, "history": "My vet canceled my cat\u2019s kidney prescription food and wont allow us to receive it unless I go for a check up. My vet already prescribed kidney disease food last year and now they are denying his monthly supply from being shipped. They said they need to check on him again, which we all know that kidney disease does not go away. Im already paying extra for the medicinal food plus monitoring his hydration. The cat is doing great and shows no signs of illness. Now the vet is holding me hostage unless I go to them and spend around $300 for blood work and check up when we already know the kidney disease is still gonna be there and is one of the most common ways senior cats die. Anyone know how I could get the food without prescription?? Or any options for other foods? Thanks in advance.", "c_root_id_A": "hpdgsvm", "c_root_id_B": "hpdcn68", "created_at_utc_A": 1640053007, "created_at_utc_B": 1640051100, "score_A": 182, "score_B": 43, "human_ref_A": "This has already been answered, but yes, legally they have to perform an exam after a years up. I\u2019m sure you can get away with skipping the bloodwork, but the exam is necessary.", "human_ref_B": "It may seem like the exam and blood work are not worth it but there likely has been worsening of the disease which may indicate additional therapies. In addition, if your car is older it may have developed additional problems that you aren\u2019t currently aware of. I understand it may seem expensive but older animals should be seen at a minimum yearly, AAHA actually recommends 2 exams per year for senior cats. It\u2019s entirely possible that nothing has really changed but nobody can know that for sure without doing an exam and blood work.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 1907.0, "score_ratio": 4.2325581395, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "rkx4u7", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.72, "history": "My vet canceled my cat\u2019s kidney prescription food and wont allow us to receive it unless I go for a check up. My vet already prescribed kidney disease food last year and now they are denying his monthly supply from being shipped. They said they need to check on him again, which we all know that kidney disease does not go away. Im already paying extra for the medicinal food plus monitoring his hydration. The cat is doing great and shows no signs of illness. Now the vet is holding me hostage unless I go to them and spend around $300 for blood work and check up when we already know the kidney disease is still gonna be there and is one of the most common ways senior cats die. Anyone know how I could get the food without prescription?? Or any options for other foods? Thanks in advance.", "c_root_id_A": "hpd154x", "c_root_id_B": "hpdgsvm", "created_at_utc_A": 1640045777, "created_at_utc_B": 1640053007, "score_A": 37, "score_B": 182, "human_ref_A": "Call the vet and ask if they can approve one bag of cat food until your appointment. Drs can not just continue an RX without knowing what is going on with your cat. It doesn\u2019t matter if he\u2019s not showing signs of illness, plenty of animals don\u2019t until it\u2019s too late.", "human_ref_B": "This has already been answered, but yes, legally they have to perform an exam after a years up. I\u2019m sure you can get away with skipping the bloodwork, but the exam is necessary.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 7230.0, "score_ratio": 4.9189189189, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "rkx4u7", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.72, "history": "My vet canceled my cat\u2019s kidney prescription food and wont allow us to receive it unless I go for a check up. My vet already prescribed kidney disease food last year and now they are denying his monthly supply from being shipped. They said they need to check on him again, which we all know that kidney disease does not go away. Im already paying extra for the medicinal food plus monitoring his hydration. The cat is doing great and shows no signs of illness. Now the vet is holding me hostage unless I go to them and spend around $300 for blood work and check up when we already know the kidney disease is still gonna be there and is one of the most common ways senior cats die. Anyone know how I could get the food without prescription?? Or any options for other foods? Thanks in advance.", "c_root_id_A": "hpdcn68", "c_root_id_B": "hpdm911", "created_at_utc_A": 1640051100, "created_at_utc_B": 1640055540, "score_A": 43, "score_B": 76, "human_ref_A": "It may seem like the exam and blood work are not worth it but there likely has been worsening of the disease which may indicate additional therapies. In addition, if your car is older it may have developed additional problems that you aren\u2019t currently aware of. I understand it may seem expensive but older animals should be seen at a minimum yearly, AAHA actually recommends 2 exams per year for senior cats. It\u2019s entirely possible that nothing has really changed but nobody can know that for sure without doing an exam and blood work.", "human_ref_B": "Means your vet is following the law. A prescription diet requires check-ups ensuring the food is still needed.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 4440.0, "score_ratio": 1.7674418605, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "rkx4u7", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.72, "history": "My vet canceled my cat\u2019s kidney prescription food and wont allow us to receive it unless I go for a check up. My vet already prescribed kidney disease food last year and now they are denying his monthly supply from being shipped. They said they need to check on him again, which we all know that kidney disease does not go away. Im already paying extra for the medicinal food plus monitoring his hydration. The cat is doing great and shows no signs of illness. Now the vet is holding me hostage unless I go to them and spend around $300 for blood work and check up when we already know the kidney disease is still gonna be there and is one of the most common ways senior cats die. Anyone know how I could get the food without prescription?? Or any options for other foods? Thanks in advance.", "c_root_id_A": "hpd154x", "c_root_id_B": "hpdm911", "created_at_utc_A": 1640045777, "created_at_utc_B": 1640055540, "score_A": 37, "score_B": 76, "human_ref_A": "Call the vet and ask if they can approve one bag of cat food until your appointment. Drs can not just continue an RX without knowing what is going on with your cat. It doesn\u2019t matter if he\u2019s not showing signs of illness, plenty of animals don\u2019t until it\u2019s too late.", "human_ref_B": "Means your vet is following the law. A prescription diet requires check-ups ensuring the food is still needed.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 9763.0, "score_ratio": 2.0540540541, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "rkx4u7", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.72, "history": "My vet canceled my cat\u2019s kidney prescription food and wont allow us to receive it unless I go for a check up. My vet already prescribed kidney disease food last year and now they are denying his monthly supply from being shipped. They said they need to check on him again, which we all know that kidney disease does not go away. Im already paying extra for the medicinal food plus monitoring his hydration. The cat is doing great and shows no signs of illness. Now the vet is holding me hostage unless I go to them and spend around $300 for blood work and check up when we already know the kidney disease is still gonna be there and is one of the most common ways senior cats die. Anyone know how I could get the food without prescription?? Or any options for other foods? Thanks in advance.", "c_root_id_A": "hpdcn68", "c_root_id_B": "hpd154x", "created_at_utc_A": 1640051100, "created_at_utc_B": 1640045777, "score_A": 43, "score_B": 37, "human_ref_A": "It may seem like the exam and blood work are not worth it but there likely has been worsening of the disease which may indicate additional therapies. In addition, if your car is older it may have developed additional problems that you aren\u2019t currently aware of. I understand it may seem expensive but older animals should be seen at a minimum yearly, AAHA actually recommends 2 exams per year for senior cats. It\u2019s entirely possible that nothing has really changed but nobody can know that for sure without doing an exam and blood work.", "human_ref_B": "Call the vet and ask if they can approve one bag of cat food until your appointment. Drs can not just continue an RX without knowing what is going on with your cat. It doesn\u2019t matter if he\u2019s not showing signs of illness, plenty of animals don\u2019t until it\u2019s too late.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 5323.0, "score_ratio": 1.1621621622, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "nsx77w", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "HELP, Weak stray Kitten, Anemic and in very bad health. I adopted 3 stray kittens ( from the same mother who died tragically, about 6 weeks old ), 6 days back and they are doing great, playful and full of energy. Yesterday, I found the 4th missing kitten, very weak (almost dead ) and smallest of them, with a lot of fleas (severe flea anemia ). Gave him a quick bath with cat shampoo and thankfully fleas are gone but, he is still very weak (much better today though ) and eating normally. However he poops in his own bedding and the stool is almost a liquid since yesterday, what could be the reason for this? I feed him fish and meat chunks. Could this be the reason?   Also his meow is completely silent.  Images: https://imgur.com/gallery/lq5wJ7H", "c_root_id_A": "h0ouxfn", "c_root_id_B": "h0przry", "created_at_utc_A": 1622904086, "created_at_utc_B": 1622920036, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 59, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Hello!  Vet here.  Do you have access to commercial kitten food?  Feeding only meat and/or products, especially at such a young age, can cause severe nutritional deficiencies.  I'm not saying this is the case right now, but it could cause some problems in the future, while commercial foods are formulated with balancing nutrients and providing a complete diet in mind.  I do recommend that you try to get the little guy and his siblings to a vet.  There are other aspects of preventative care that could really help them out with their health, and can help to set them up for success in the future.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 15950.0, "score_ratio": 59.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "nsx77w", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "HELP, Weak stray Kitten, Anemic and in very bad health. I adopted 3 stray kittens ( from the same mother who died tragically, about 6 weeks old ), 6 days back and they are doing great, playful and full of energy. Yesterday, I found the 4th missing kitten, very weak (almost dead ) and smallest of them, with a lot of fleas (severe flea anemia ). Gave him a quick bath with cat shampoo and thankfully fleas are gone but, he is still very weak (much better today though ) and eating normally. However he poops in his own bedding and the stool is almost a liquid since yesterday, what could be the reason for this? I feed him fish and meat chunks. Could this be the reason?   Also his meow is completely silent.  Images: https://imgur.com/gallery/lq5wJ7H", "c_root_id_A": "h0pqwz5", "c_root_id_B": "h0ouxfn", "created_at_utc_A": 1622919484, "created_at_utc_B": 1622904086, "score_A": 41, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "So remember that babies can take a turn for the worst very quickly. If he's stray, you don't know anything about his health. Have they been to the vet yet for a check up? The biggest concern for this little guy is dehydration and malnutrition. He's going to need a vet asap.   Good luck with your new babies!", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 15398.0, "score_ratio": 41.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "nsx77w", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "HELP, Weak stray Kitten, Anemic and in very bad health. I adopted 3 stray kittens ( from the same mother who died tragically, about 6 weeks old ), 6 days back and they are doing great, playful and full of energy. Yesterday, I found the 4th missing kitten, very weak (almost dead ) and smallest of them, with a lot of fleas (severe flea anemia ). Gave him a quick bath with cat shampoo and thankfully fleas are gone but, he is still very weak (much better today though ) and eating normally. However he poops in his own bedding and the stool is almost a liquid since yesterday, what could be the reason for this? I feed him fish and meat chunks. Could this be the reason?   Also his meow is completely silent.  Images: https://imgur.com/gallery/lq5wJ7H", "c_root_id_A": "h0qo2yk", "c_root_id_B": "h0ouxfn", "created_at_utc_A": 1622936699, "created_at_utc_B": 1622904086, "score_A": 3, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Not a vet. I'd try and get some kitten food that has the added nutrients they need as he's prob lacking in many that the mum would have supplied thru her milk. As strays, cats eat a varied diet and will seek out what their bodies need, but as pets, we supply the food,so it needs to be well balanced. I'd definitely recommend a vet or medical advice if you can. Pets are expensive, but very worth it! Thank you for saving them and I wish you and them all the best!", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 32613.0, "score_ratio": 3.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "nsx77w", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "HELP, Weak stray Kitten, Anemic and in very bad health. I adopted 3 stray kittens ( from the same mother who died tragically, about 6 weeks old ), 6 days back and they are doing great, playful and full of energy. Yesterday, I found the 4th missing kitten, very weak (almost dead ) and smallest of them, with a lot of fleas (severe flea anemia ). Gave him a quick bath with cat shampoo and thankfully fleas are gone but, he is still very weak (much better today though ) and eating normally. However he poops in his own bedding and the stool is almost a liquid since yesterday, what could be the reason for this? I feed him fish and meat chunks. Could this be the reason?   Also his meow is completely silent.  Images: https://imgur.com/gallery/lq5wJ7H", "c_root_id_A": "h0ouxfn", "c_root_id_B": "h0r8vdb", "created_at_utc_A": 1622904086, "created_at_utc_B": 1622948709, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Is there a humane society or shelter near you? Thats your best bet,Cld be dehydrated or blood loss from bites,he or she needs alot more than just food,There are supplements,milk for baby cats,drug store cld help with that too,might need iron enriched milk,food,cld be parasites too,alot of strays hv them,too young to dose yourself being so young even a wildlife shelter can help.I don't know where you are located to help sorry,I hope this helped,need warmth too.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 44623.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "nsx77w", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "HELP, Weak stray Kitten, Anemic and in very bad health. I adopted 3 stray kittens ( from the same mother who died tragically, about 6 weeks old ), 6 days back and they are doing great, playful and full of energy. Yesterday, I found the 4th missing kitten, very weak (almost dead ) and smallest of them, with a lot of fleas (severe flea anemia ). Gave him a quick bath with cat shampoo and thankfully fleas are gone but, he is still very weak (much better today though ) and eating normally. However he poops in his own bedding and the stool is almost a liquid since yesterday, what could be the reason for this? I feed him fish and meat chunks. Could this be the reason?   Also his meow is completely silent.  Images: https://imgur.com/gallery/lq5wJ7H", "c_root_id_A": "h0pqwz5", "c_root_id_B": "h0przry", "created_at_utc_A": 1622919484, "created_at_utc_B": 1622920036, "score_A": 41, "score_B": 59, "human_ref_A": "So remember that babies can take a turn for the worst very quickly. If he's stray, you don't know anything about his health. Have they been to the vet yet for a check up? The biggest concern for this little guy is dehydration and malnutrition. He's going to need a vet asap.   Good luck with your new babies!", "human_ref_B": "Hello!  Vet here.  Do you have access to commercial kitten food?  Feeding only meat and/or products, especially at such a young age, can cause severe nutritional deficiencies.  I'm not saying this is the case right now, but it could cause some problems in the future, while commercial foods are formulated with balancing nutrients and providing a complete diet in mind.  I do recommend that you try to get the little guy and his siblings to a vet.  There are other aspects of preventative care that could really help them out with their health, and can help to set them up for success in the future.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 552.0, "score_ratio": 1.4390243902, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "krjk26", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "My cat has no eyes. Do I get the sockets stitched up? Hey vets!  Firstly - thanks so much for being on here. I live in Ethiopia where we don't have many vets and so I have been learning about cat care on Google and making it up as I go along. Would love your advice on this one though!  Lyra the blind cat is nearly a year old. I found her as a 5 week old kitten on the street (no mama or siblings around) in a bit of a mess because she had an infection in both eye sockets but no eyeballs... It was night time and there were dogs around so I figured I should take her home, just for a few days. This was back in March 2020, so just pre-pandemic. Naturally, we have become totally inseparable am I am fairly confident we saved each other's lives <3  Anyway this cat grew up healthy and strong and a total weirdo but, of course, she is completely blind. Yes, I am sure! You wouldn't guess because she gets around just fine, other than occasionally walking into walls or getting stuck in stupid places.  There are two possibilities for Lyra not having eyes:  1. Blind since birth because her eyes never grew. Reasons in favour: she doesn't mind being stroked on her face - even a good scratch near the eyes. Also, she was pretty disgusting but not on death's door when I found her... You'd expect her to have been worse if her eyes had fallen out. Reasons against: the eye sockets never closed up. If she was blind at birth, maybe they never would have opened? Although she probably does have tear ducts because sometimes a bit of eye goop comes out and goes crusty... I just give her a daily face wipe, which she doesn't mind too much! 2. Blind because someone took out her eyeballs. Reasons in favour: a vet here told me that, because her eye sockets are still open and she does sometimes get a bit weepy in the eye area, it's somehow not a 'natural' state for her. I don't know about this because another vet said the opposite. Reasons against: I don't see how such a tiny kitten could survive having her eyes taken out by a human or bird or whateva. Also, what kind of sicko would do that? People here are quite nice to cats usually.  Lyra will live with us in Ethiopia for another year and a half, then she has to move to Jordan for a bit, then we will be posted in another country - no idea where yet (work stuff). So she will have to get on quite a few planes in the future. Because of this, I wonder whether it might be better for her to have the sockets stitched up to avoid another infection or because some other country might want them stitched for an entry / quarantine reason. Also, if we end up near the coast it'll be such a nightmare trying to get sand out of there!!  On the other hand, she hasn't had an infection since the first one, despite playing outside in the soil all the time... So I don't think she is in any discomfort because of the slightly-weeping sockets.  For aesthetic reasons, it would be nice for her eyes to be closed up. But is this necessary or more of a risk than leaving them open?  It's a head-scratcher and there is nothing online. None of the vets I have spoken to have ever encountered something quite like this before!  Would love any suggestions, recommendations or just love for Lyra because, let's face it, she is an angel.  Thanks so much - Libby & Lyra", "c_root_id_A": "gia8ujo", "c_root_id_B": "gib0p3w", "created_at_utc_A": 1609920603, "created_at_utc_B": 1609943500, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 58, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "We can see this condition in kittens with severe eye infection before the eyelids open which is probably what happened with your Kitty. As far as closing the eyelids.  If she was my patient, I would most likely recommend surgery to clean up the sockets and close the eyelids. But surgery always carry the risks of complications. If there isn\u2019t a vet around you that is used to doing that and she isn\u2019t painful at the moment, I would wait until you are in a country/area that has a vet that knows how to do this to minimize the risks of complications.  She\u2019s lived 9 months like this already - surgery is not an emergency.  Countries only care about infectious diseases so they won\u2019t care about the fact that she has no eyes as long as vaccines and parasite prevention is done.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 22897.0, "score_ratio": 58.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "krjk26", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "My cat has no eyes. Do I get the sockets stitched up? Hey vets!  Firstly - thanks so much for being on here. I live in Ethiopia where we don't have many vets and so I have been learning about cat care on Google and making it up as I go along. Would love your advice on this one though!  Lyra the blind cat is nearly a year old. I found her as a 5 week old kitten on the street (no mama or siblings around) in a bit of a mess because she had an infection in both eye sockets but no eyeballs... It was night time and there were dogs around so I figured I should take her home, just for a few days. This was back in March 2020, so just pre-pandemic. Naturally, we have become totally inseparable am I am fairly confident we saved each other's lives <3  Anyway this cat grew up healthy and strong and a total weirdo but, of course, she is completely blind. Yes, I am sure! You wouldn't guess because she gets around just fine, other than occasionally walking into walls or getting stuck in stupid places.  There are two possibilities for Lyra not having eyes:  1. Blind since birth because her eyes never grew. Reasons in favour: she doesn't mind being stroked on her face - even a good scratch near the eyes. Also, she was pretty disgusting but not on death's door when I found her... You'd expect her to have been worse if her eyes had fallen out. Reasons against: the eye sockets never closed up. If she was blind at birth, maybe they never would have opened? Although she probably does have tear ducts because sometimes a bit of eye goop comes out and goes crusty... I just give her a daily face wipe, which she doesn't mind too much! 2. Blind because someone took out her eyeballs. Reasons in favour: a vet here told me that, because her eye sockets are still open and she does sometimes get a bit weepy in the eye area, it's somehow not a 'natural' state for her. I don't know about this because another vet said the opposite. Reasons against: I don't see how such a tiny kitten could survive having her eyes taken out by a human or bird or whateva. Also, what kind of sicko would do that? People here are quite nice to cats usually.  Lyra will live with us in Ethiopia for another year and a half, then she has to move to Jordan for a bit, then we will be posted in another country - no idea where yet (work stuff). So she will have to get on quite a few planes in the future. Because of this, I wonder whether it might be better for her to have the sockets stitched up to avoid another infection or because some other country might want them stitched for an entry / quarantine reason. Also, if we end up near the coast it'll be such a nightmare trying to get sand out of there!!  On the other hand, she hasn't had an infection since the first one, despite playing outside in the soil all the time... So I don't think she is in any discomfort because of the slightly-weeping sockets.  For aesthetic reasons, it would be nice for her eyes to be closed up. But is this necessary or more of a risk than leaving them open?  It's a head-scratcher and there is nothing online. None of the vets I have spoken to have ever encountered something quite like this before!  Would love any suggestions, recommendations or just love for Lyra because, let's face it, she is an angel.  Thanks so much - Libby & Lyra", "c_root_id_A": "gibb05u", "c_root_id_B": "gia8ujo", "created_at_utc_A": 1609948693, "created_at_utc_B": 1609920603, "score_A": 20, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I do some work for a local cat rescue. Enucleation of severely infected globes is common, I always surgically close the lids.   I\u2019ve had one dog patient that lost both eyes to trauma from another dog in the household. Once the kids were surgically closed and the fur grew back, observers assumed the dog was asleep, and were aghast to discover her handicap.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 28090.0, "score_ratio": 20.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "c8mjon", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "My cat is sorting his poop? Hi, I posted earlier in the month about my cats sudden sexual obsession with all things fluffy.   I'm not a troll, though I'm starting to wonder if my cat is trolling me.  He has two litter trays, one new and regular sized and his giant old one (he's a big cat) The last week he has begun \"sorting\" his wee and poo. He will only wee in the new one and will only  poop in the old one. I have seen him pee in the new one, neatly cover it up then walk two feet to his other litter tray, dig a hole and poop in it, then cover it up. Why? What is my lovable weirdo thinking???", "c_root_id_A": "esocj4k", "c_root_id_B": "esodyqf", "created_at_utc_A": 1562164752, "created_at_utc_B": 1562165614, "score_A": 45, "score_B": 222, "human_ref_A": "Like humans animals have their own quirks (like they all have their own preferences too).  He just doesn't like pooping where he pees. Sometimes it's just a personal quirk (animals aren't all just robots that work on instinct).     (One of my cats by the way pees by standing on the edge of the litterbox and peeing into the litterbox, his own personal quirk).", "human_ref_B": "In my professional veterinary opinion, cats are weird.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 862.0, "score_ratio": 4.9333333333, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "c8mjon", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "My cat is sorting his poop? Hi, I posted earlier in the month about my cats sudden sexual obsession with all things fluffy.   I'm not a troll, though I'm starting to wonder if my cat is trolling me.  He has two litter trays, one new and regular sized and his giant old one (he's a big cat) The last week he has begun \"sorting\" his wee and poo. He will only wee in the new one and will only  poop in the old one. I have seen him pee in the new one, neatly cover it up then walk two feet to his other litter tray, dig a hole and poop in it, then cover it up. Why? What is my lovable weirdo thinking???", "c_root_id_A": "esnu44t", "c_root_id_B": "esodyqf", "created_at_utc_A": 1562150311, "created_at_utc_B": 1562165614, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 222, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed.   This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "In my professional veterinary opinion, cats are weird.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 15303.0, "score_ratio": 222.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "c8mjon", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "My cat is sorting his poop? Hi, I posted earlier in the month about my cats sudden sexual obsession with all things fluffy.   I'm not a troll, though I'm starting to wonder if my cat is trolling me.  He has two litter trays, one new and regular sized and his giant old one (he's a big cat) The last week he has begun \"sorting\" his wee and poo. He will only wee in the new one and will only  poop in the old one. I have seen him pee in the new one, neatly cover it up then walk two feet to his other litter tray, dig a hole and poop in it, then cover it up. Why? What is my lovable weirdo thinking???", "c_root_id_A": "esocj4k", "c_root_id_B": "esnu44t", "created_at_utc_A": 1562164752, "created_at_utc_B": 1562150311, "score_A": 45, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Like humans animals have their own quirks (like they all have their own preferences too).  He just doesn't like pooping where he pees. Sometimes it's just a personal quirk (animals aren't all just robots that work on instinct).     (One of my cats by the way pees by standing on the edge of the litterbox and peeing into the litterbox, his own personal quirk).", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed.   This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 14441.0, "score_ratio": 45.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "c8mjon", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "My cat is sorting his poop? Hi, I posted earlier in the month about my cats sudden sexual obsession with all things fluffy.   I'm not a troll, though I'm starting to wonder if my cat is trolling me.  He has two litter trays, one new and regular sized and his giant old one (he's a big cat) The last week he has begun \"sorting\" his wee and poo. He will only wee in the new one and will only  poop in the old one. I have seen him pee in the new one, neatly cover it up then walk two feet to his other litter tray, dig a hole and poop in it, then cover it up. Why? What is my lovable weirdo thinking???", "c_root_id_A": "esnu44t", "c_root_id_B": "esotxg8", "created_at_utc_A": 1562150311, "created_at_utc_B": 1562174152, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 21, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed.   This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "That is a pretty common behavior in cats. This means that he considers the ~~old~~ new toilet \"stealthy\" enough to only pee in, unlike the old one. Basically, it's related to the natural behavior of hiding excrement in cats.  You could think about it as your cat just liking his new toilet so much, that he doesn't want to spoil it with the smell of poo just yet.     Edit: mistake", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 23841.0, "score_ratio": 21.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "9h00n7", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Thank you I wanted to thank everyone on this sub who has taken the time to share their knowledge and experience. My ferret recently passed away from lymphoma. She lasted 7 months, and I knew I was most likely going to have to make end-of-life decisions.  I was originally hoping she would die a \"natural death\" but trawling through the archives here convinced me that it was much kinder to step in before then. It also convinced me to not accept my friend's offer of phenobarbital for a homemade overdose. In the end I opted for in-home euthanasia when she started having breakthrough pain and the joy went out of her eyes.  It's strange to say, but it was a beautiful death. Thanks to this sub, I was prepared for what was going to happen and was confident that I had made the right choice, even though I was heartbroken. Maisie went out very peacefully in my arms while eagerly licking some Lindt milk chocolate.  Thank you for helping me through this difficult time. My little ferret is now buried under a camellia that will bloom in November.  Pet tax", "c_root_id_A": "e6845d1", "c_root_id_B": "e68bnes", "created_at_utc_A": 1537313849, "created_at_utc_B": 1537321161, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 13, "human_ref_A": "This is a reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "I\u2019m so sorry for the loss of your furry friend. Thank you for making her last moments peaceful. She was lucky to have you.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 7312.0, "score_ratio": 13.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "9h00n7", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Thank you I wanted to thank everyone on this sub who has taken the time to share their knowledge and experience. My ferret recently passed away from lymphoma. She lasted 7 months, and I knew I was most likely going to have to make end-of-life decisions.  I was originally hoping she would die a \"natural death\" but trawling through the archives here convinced me that it was much kinder to step in before then. It also convinced me to not accept my friend's offer of phenobarbital for a homemade overdose. In the end I opted for in-home euthanasia when she started having breakthrough pain and the joy went out of her eyes.  It's strange to say, but it was a beautiful death. Thanks to this sub, I was prepared for what was going to happen and was confident that I had made the right choice, even though I was heartbroken. Maisie went out very peacefully in my arms while eagerly licking some Lindt milk chocolate.  Thank you for helping me through this difficult time. My little ferret is now buried under a camellia that will bloom in November.  Pet tax", "c_root_id_A": "e68nf6j", "c_root_id_B": "e68eoj6", "created_at_utc_A": 1537334338, "created_at_utc_B": 1537324115, "score_A": 7, "score_B": 5, "human_ref_A": "Thank you, for loving Maisie, and for giving her the best life you could. My heart goes out to you, it's so hard to say goodbye. May her heart ever touch your own, and may the life you shared always bring you joy.", "human_ref_B": "I'm sorry for your loss. She was beautiful and looks so sweet. I know that making that decision is hard, and I'm glad it was peaceful.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 10223.0, "score_ratio": 1.4, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "9h00n7", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Thank you I wanted to thank everyone on this sub who has taken the time to share their knowledge and experience. My ferret recently passed away from lymphoma. She lasted 7 months, and I knew I was most likely going to have to make end-of-life decisions.  I was originally hoping she would die a \"natural death\" but trawling through the archives here convinced me that it was much kinder to step in before then. It also convinced me to not accept my friend's offer of phenobarbital for a homemade overdose. In the end I opted for in-home euthanasia when she started having breakthrough pain and the joy went out of her eyes.  It's strange to say, but it was a beautiful death. Thanks to this sub, I was prepared for what was going to happen and was confident that I had made the right choice, even though I was heartbroken. Maisie went out very peacefully in my arms while eagerly licking some Lindt milk chocolate.  Thank you for helping me through this difficult time. My little ferret is now buried under a camellia that will bloom in November.  Pet tax", "c_root_id_A": "e68eoj6", "c_root_id_B": "e6845d1", "created_at_utc_A": 1537324115, "created_at_utc_B": 1537313849, "score_A": 5, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I'm sorry for your loss. She was beautiful and looks so sweet. I know that making that decision is hard, and I'm glad it was peaceful.", "human_ref_B": "This is a reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 10266.0, "score_ratio": 5.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "9h00n7", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Thank you I wanted to thank everyone on this sub who has taken the time to share their knowledge and experience. My ferret recently passed away from lymphoma. She lasted 7 months, and I knew I was most likely going to have to make end-of-life decisions.  I was originally hoping she would die a \"natural death\" but trawling through the archives here convinced me that it was much kinder to step in before then. It also convinced me to not accept my friend's offer of phenobarbital for a homemade overdose. In the end I opted for in-home euthanasia when she started having breakthrough pain and the joy went out of her eyes.  It's strange to say, but it was a beautiful death. Thanks to this sub, I was prepared for what was going to happen and was confident that I had made the right choice, even though I was heartbroken. Maisie went out very peacefully in my arms while eagerly licking some Lindt milk chocolate.  Thank you for helping me through this difficult time. My little ferret is now buried under a camellia that will bloom in November.  Pet tax", "c_root_id_A": "e68izmw", "c_root_id_B": "e68nf6j", "created_at_utc_A": 1537328688, "created_at_utc_B": 1537334338, "score_A": 4, "score_B": 7, "human_ref_A": "Sorry for you loss. I\u2019m sure she lived a content life.", "human_ref_B": "Thank you, for loving Maisie, and for giving her the best life you could. My heart goes out to you, it's so hard to say goodbye. May her heart ever touch your own, and may the life you shared always bring you joy.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 5650.0, "score_ratio": 1.75, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "9h00n7", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Thank you I wanted to thank everyone on this sub who has taken the time to share their knowledge and experience. My ferret recently passed away from lymphoma. She lasted 7 months, and I knew I was most likely going to have to make end-of-life decisions.  I was originally hoping she would die a \"natural death\" but trawling through the archives here convinced me that it was much kinder to step in before then. It also convinced me to not accept my friend's offer of phenobarbital for a homemade overdose. In the end I opted for in-home euthanasia when she started having breakthrough pain and the joy went out of her eyes.  It's strange to say, but it was a beautiful death. Thanks to this sub, I was prepared for what was going to happen and was confident that I had made the right choice, even though I was heartbroken. Maisie went out very peacefully in my arms while eagerly licking some Lindt milk chocolate.  Thank you for helping me through this difficult time. My little ferret is now buried under a camellia that will bloom in November.  Pet tax", "c_root_id_A": "e68kfaz", "c_root_id_B": "e68nf6j", "created_at_utc_A": 1537330381, "created_at_utc_B": 1537334338, "score_A": 3, "score_B": 7, "human_ref_A": "I am so sorry for your loss.", "human_ref_B": "Thank you, for loving Maisie, and for giving her the best life you could. My heart goes out to you, it's so hard to say goodbye. May her heart ever touch your own, and may the life you shared always bring you joy.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 3957.0, "score_ratio": 2.3333333333, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "9h00n7", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Thank you I wanted to thank everyone on this sub who has taken the time to share their knowledge and experience. My ferret recently passed away from lymphoma. She lasted 7 months, and I knew I was most likely going to have to make end-of-life decisions.  I was originally hoping she would die a \"natural death\" but trawling through the archives here convinced me that it was much kinder to step in before then. It also convinced me to not accept my friend's offer of phenobarbital for a homemade overdose. In the end I opted for in-home euthanasia when she started having breakthrough pain and the joy went out of her eyes.  It's strange to say, but it was a beautiful death. Thanks to this sub, I was prepared for what was going to happen and was confident that I had made the right choice, even though I was heartbroken. Maisie went out very peacefully in my arms while eagerly licking some Lindt milk chocolate.  Thank you for helping me through this difficult time. My little ferret is now buried under a camellia that will bloom in November.  Pet tax", "c_root_id_A": "e68nf6j", "c_root_id_B": "e6845d1", "created_at_utc_A": 1537334338, "created_at_utc_B": 1537313849, "score_A": 7, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Thank you, for loving Maisie, and for giving her the best life you could. My heart goes out to you, it's so hard to say goodbye. May her heart ever touch your own, and may the life you shared always bring you joy.", "human_ref_B": "This is a reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 20489.0, "score_ratio": 7.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "9h00n7", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Thank you I wanted to thank everyone on this sub who has taken the time to share their knowledge and experience. My ferret recently passed away from lymphoma. She lasted 7 months, and I knew I was most likely going to have to make end-of-life decisions.  I was originally hoping she would die a \"natural death\" but trawling through the archives here convinced me that it was much kinder to step in before then. It also convinced me to not accept my friend's offer of phenobarbital for a homemade overdose. In the end I opted for in-home euthanasia when she started having breakthrough pain and the joy went out of her eyes.  It's strange to say, but it was a beautiful death. Thanks to this sub, I was prepared for what was going to happen and was confident that I had made the right choice, even though I was heartbroken. Maisie went out very peacefully in my arms while eagerly licking some Lindt milk chocolate.  Thank you for helping me through this difficult time. My little ferret is now buried under a camellia that will bloom in November.  Pet tax", "c_root_id_A": "e6845d1", "c_root_id_B": "e68izmw", "created_at_utc_A": 1537313849, "created_at_utc_B": 1537328688, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 4, "human_ref_A": "This is a reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Sorry for you loss. I\u2019m sure she lived a content life.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 14839.0, "score_ratio": 4.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "9h00n7", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Thank you I wanted to thank everyone on this sub who has taken the time to share their knowledge and experience. My ferret recently passed away from lymphoma. She lasted 7 months, and I knew I was most likely going to have to make end-of-life decisions.  I was originally hoping she would die a \"natural death\" but trawling through the archives here convinced me that it was much kinder to step in before then. It also convinced me to not accept my friend's offer of phenobarbital for a homemade overdose. In the end I opted for in-home euthanasia when she started having breakthrough pain and the joy went out of her eyes.  It's strange to say, but it was a beautiful death. Thanks to this sub, I was prepared for what was going to happen and was confident that I had made the right choice, even though I was heartbroken. Maisie went out very peacefully in my arms while eagerly licking some Lindt milk chocolate.  Thank you for helping me through this difficult time. My little ferret is now buried under a camellia that will bloom in November.  Pet tax", "c_root_id_A": "e68kfaz", "c_root_id_B": "e6845d1", "created_at_utc_A": 1537330381, "created_at_utc_B": 1537313849, "score_A": 3, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I am so sorry for your loss.", "human_ref_B": "This is a reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 16532.0, "score_ratio": 3.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "9h00n7", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Thank you I wanted to thank everyone on this sub who has taken the time to share their knowledge and experience. My ferret recently passed away from lymphoma. She lasted 7 months, and I knew I was most likely going to have to make end-of-life decisions.  I was originally hoping she would die a \"natural death\" but trawling through the archives here convinced me that it was much kinder to step in before then. It also convinced me to not accept my friend's offer of phenobarbital for a homemade overdose. In the end I opted for in-home euthanasia when she started having breakthrough pain and the joy went out of her eyes.  It's strange to say, but it was a beautiful death. Thanks to this sub, I was prepared for what was going to happen and was confident that I had made the right choice, even though I was heartbroken. Maisie went out very peacefully in my arms while eagerly licking some Lindt milk chocolate.  Thank you for helping me through this difficult time. My little ferret is now buried under a camellia that will bloom in November.  Pet tax", "c_root_id_A": "e6e58q4", "c_root_id_B": "e6845d1", "created_at_utc_A": 1537553315, "created_at_utc_B": 1537313849, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I\u2019m really sorry for the death of your ferret I had two ferrets when I was younger they are the cutest and the most feisty mischievous little critters!! This might sound corny but I found something that is made to help prepare people when it comes to  death  I would share it with you because even though it\u2019s made for people I think it can apply it to pets also   https://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/PDF/Fenwick%20Nearing%20the%20End%20of%20Life%20Guide.x.pdf", "human_ref_B": "This is a reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 239466.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "27q2x7", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.95, "history": "[Meta] Woah, where did everyone just come from? This is usually a pretty quiet subreddit. Considering there are 464 users here right now, I assume we got linked from some large thread or something?", "c_root_id_A": "ci3b3hk", "c_root_id_B": "ci39gr0", "created_at_utc_A": 1402348687, "created_at_utc_B": 1402345457, "score_A": 8, "score_B": 5, "human_ref_A": "Cool - didn't know this was here. While not a vet (despite everyone expecting me to be one from the time I could walk) I have spent my entire life working with animals and now specialize in goat behavior, care, and health - a greatly under researched species.   What a great sub - I'll keep an eye out for any goat questions I can assist with - sadly I've found that veterinarians just don't have access to enough education about them in traditional schooling, though I've met a handful of *amazing* ones who have gone out of their way to educate themselves and learn how to handle and treat this very interesting domesticated species.", "human_ref_B": "Here: http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/27p6z3/doctors_of_reddit_whats_something_youve_had_to/ci33446", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 3230.0, "score_ratio": 1.6, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "yv0jze", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Heartbroken trying to make a decision for my cat She\u2019s 9 years old, spayed, shorthair, approx. 8 lbs, down from 10.5 a month ago.  She started having some issues with her ears being touched 3-4 weeks ago. Ear mites were ruled out, but a couple days after her ear problem started, her left eye got inflamed. The vet said it was a bacterial infection and gave topical antibiotics for both.  After 10 days, her condition hadn\u2019t improved. She started struggling to eat and lost weight rapidly. Last week I took her to a different vet and they gave me an oral antibiotic, a steroid, and painkillers.  Eye pressure test ruled out glaucoma.  Elevated proteins in her globulins determined most likely due to dehydration, everything else from blood work was normal.   X-rays didn\u2019t turn up anything aside from constipation which she received an enema for.  They said a tooth abscess was a possibility, but are largely leaning toward a mass behind her eye. They couldn\u2019t get a good look inside her mouth and don\u2019t offer dental X-rays, but are iffy about having her undergo anesthesia to do them because she\u2019s gotten so frail.  Over this past weekend she started trying to eat. She gets excited about her food but she struggles with it. It\u2019s like she gets a pain in her ear and twists her head. The past couple times she has eaten, she stumbles and falls over when walking away from her bowl, but seems fine a few minutes later.  We\u2019re 6 days into her new meds, but it doesn\u2019t seem to be helping overall.  I just don\u2019t know what to do. If it is a mass behind her eye, I really can\u2019t afford to do the scans and treatment. I also don\u2019t know if it\u2019s worth trying to rule out the abscess. I feel so bad for her and don\u2019t want her to suffer anymore, but I feel like it\u2019s not fair to just let her go \ud83d\ude22  Pictured is my beautiful baby trying to eat \ud83d\ude2d    https://i.imgur.com/GFPGLCZ.jpg", "c_root_id_A": "iwbtrgj", "c_root_id_B": "iwcj17b", "created_at_utc_A": 1668435119, "created_at_utc_B": 1668445816, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 59, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Elevate the food bowl to help ward off eye pressure when she leans down to eat. Was her blood pressure checked?", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 10697.0, "score_ratio": 59.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "yv0jze", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Heartbroken trying to make a decision for my cat She\u2019s 9 years old, spayed, shorthair, approx. 8 lbs, down from 10.5 a month ago.  She started having some issues with her ears being touched 3-4 weeks ago. Ear mites were ruled out, but a couple days after her ear problem started, her left eye got inflamed. The vet said it was a bacterial infection and gave topical antibiotics for both.  After 10 days, her condition hadn\u2019t improved. She started struggling to eat and lost weight rapidly. Last week I took her to a different vet and they gave me an oral antibiotic, a steroid, and painkillers.  Eye pressure test ruled out glaucoma.  Elevated proteins in her globulins determined most likely due to dehydration, everything else from blood work was normal.   X-rays didn\u2019t turn up anything aside from constipation which she received an enema for.  They said a tooth abscess was a possibility, but are largely leaning toward a mass behind her eye. They couldn\u2019t get a good look inside her mouth and don\u2019t offer dental X-rays, but are iffy about having her undergo anesthesia to do them because she\u2019s gotten so frail.  Over this past weekend she started trying to eat. She gets excited about her food but she struggles with it. It\u2019s like she gets a pain in her ear and twists her head. The past couple times she has eaten, she stumbles and falls over when walking away from her bowl, but seems fine a few minutes later.  We\u2019re 6 days into her new meds, but it doesn\u2019t seem to be helping overall.  I just don\u2019t know what to do. If it is a mass behind her eye, I really can\u2019t afford to do the scans and treatment. I also don\u2019t know if it\u2019s worth trying to rule out the abscess. I feel so bad for her and don\u2019t want her to suffer anymore, but I feel like it\u2019s not fair to just let her go \ud83d\ude22  Pictured is my beautiful baby trying to eat \ud83d\ude2d    https://i.imgur.com/GFPGLCZ.jpg", "c_root_id_A": "iwbtrgj", "c_root_id_B": "iwemvwq", "created_at_utc_A": 1668435119, "created_at_utc_B": 1668477083, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 14, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Can you warm the food and syringe feed to see if that makes a difference in how she receives food?", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 41964.0, "score_ratio": 14.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "yv0jze", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Heartbroken trying to make a decision for my cat She\u2019s 9 years old, spayed, shorthair, approx. 8 lbs, down from 10.5 a month ago.  She started having some issues with her ears being touched 3-4 weeks ago. Ear mites were ruled out, but a couple days after her ear problem started, her left eye got inflamed. The vet said it was a bacterial infection and gave topical antibiotics for both.  After 10 days, her condition hadn\u2019t improved. She started struggling to eat and lost weight rapidly. Last week I took her to a different vet and they gave me an oral antibiotic, a steroid, and painkillers.  Eye pressure test ruled out glaucoma.  Elevated proteins in her globulins determined most likely due to dehydration, everything else from blood work was normal.   X-rays didn\u2019t turn up anything aside from constipation which she received an enema for.  They said a tooth abscess was a possibility, but are largely leaning toward a mass behind her eye. They couldn\u2019t get a good look inside her mouth and don\u2019t offer dental X-rays, but are iffy about having her undergo anesthesia to do them because she\u2019s gotten so frail.  Over this past weekend she started trying to eat. She gets excited about her food but she struggles with it. It\u2019s like she gets a pain in her ear and twists her head. The past couple times she has eaten, she stumbles and falls over when walking away from her bowl, but seems fine a few minutes later.  We\u2019re 6 days into her new meds, but it doesn\u2019t seem to be helping overall.  I just don\u2019t know what to do. If it is a mass behind her eye, I really can\u2019t afford to do the scans and treatment. I also don\u2019t know if it\u2019s worth trying to rule out the abscess. I feel so bad for her and don\u2019t want her to suffer anymore, but I feel like it\u2019s not fair to just let her go \ud83d\ude22  Pictured is my beautiful baby trying to eat \ud83d\ude2d    https://i.imgur.com/GFPGLCZ.jpg", "c_root_id_A": "iwbtrgj", "c_root_id_B": "iwdb2hj", "created_at_utc_A": 1668435119, "created_at_utc_B": 1668456718, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 8, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Has she had a full blood panel done?", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 21599.0, "score_ratio": 8.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "yv0jze", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Heartbroken trying to make a decision for my cat She\u2019s 9 years old, spayed, shorthair, approx. 8 lbs, down from 10.5 a month ago.  She started having some issues with her ears being touched 3-4 weeks ago. Ear mites were ruled out, but a couple days after her ear problem started, her left eye got inflamed. The vet said it was a bacterial infection and gave topical antibiotics for both.  After 10 days, her condition hadn\u2019t improved. She started struggling to eat and lost weight rapidly. Last week I took her to a different vet and they gave me an oral antibiotic, a steroid, and painkillers.  Eye pressure test ruled out glaucoma.  Elevated proteins in her globulins determined most likely due to dehydration, everything else from blood work was normal.   X-rays didn\u2019t turn up anything aside from constipation which she received an enema for.  They said a tooth abscess was a possibility, but are largely leaning toward a mass behind her eye. They couldn\u2019t get a good look inside her mouth and don\u2019t offer dental X-rays, but are iffy about having her undergo anesthesia to do them because she\u2019s gotten so frail.  Over this past weekend she started trying to eat. She gets excited about her food but she struggles with it. It\u2019s like she gets a pain in her ear and twists her head. The past couple times she has eaten, she stumbles and falls over when walking away from her bowl, but seems fine a few minutes later.  We\u2019re 6 days into her new meds, but it doesn\u2019t seem to be helping overall.  I just don\u2019t know what to do. If it is a mass behind her eye, I really can\u2019t afford to do the scans and treatment. I also don\u2019t know if it\u2019s worth trying to rule out the abscess. I feel so bad for her and don\u2019t want her to suffer anymore, but I feel like it\u2019s not fair to just let her go \ud83d\ude22  Pictured is my beautiful baby trying to eat \ud83d\ude2d    https://i.imgur.com/GFPGLCZ.jpg", "c_root_id_A": "iwbtrgj", "c_root_id_B": "iwde4gk", "created_at_utc_A": 1668435119, "created_at_utc_B": 1668457907, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 9, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Can you get a second opinion ?", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 22788.0, "score_ratio": 9.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "yv0jze", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Heartbroken trying to make a decision for my cat She\u2019s 9 years old, spayed, shorthair, approx. 8 lbs, down from 10.5 a month ago.  She started having some issues with her ears being touched 3-4 weeks ago. Ear mites were ruled out, but a couple days after her ear problem started, her left eye got inflamed. The vet said it was a bacterial infection and gave topical antibiotics for both.  After 10 days, her condition hadn\u2019t improved. She started struggling to eat and lost weight rapidly. Last week I took her to a different vet and they gave me an oral antibiotic, a steroid, and painkillers.  Eye pressure test ruled out glaucoma.  Elevated proteins in her globulins determined most likely due to dehydration, everything else from blood work was normal.   X-rays didn\u2019t turn up anything aside from constipation which she received an enema for.  They said a tooth abscess was a possibility, but are largely leaning toward a mass behind her eye. They couldn\u2019t get a good look inside her mouth and don\u2019t offer dental X-rays, but are iffy about having her undergo anesthesia to do them because she\u2019s gotten so frail.  Over this past weekend she started trying to eat. She gets excited about her food but she struggles with it. It\u2019s like she gets a pain in her ear and twists her head. The past couple times she has eaten, she stumbles and falls over when walking away from her bowl, but seems fine a few minutes later.  We\u2019re 6 days into her new meds, but it doesn\u2019t seem to be helping overall.  I just don\u2019t know what to do. If it is a mass behind her eye, I really can\u2019t afford to do the scans and treatment. I also don\u2019t know if it\u2019s worth trying to rule out the abscess. I feel so bad for her and don\u2019t want her to suffer anymore, but I feel like it\u2019s not fair to just let her go \ud83d\ude22  Pictured is my beautiful baby trying to eat \ud83d\ude2d    https://i.imgur.com/GFPGLCZ.jpg", "c_root_id_A": "iwettgl", "c_root_id_B": "iwbtrgj", "created_at_utc_A": 1668480126, "created_at_utc_B": 1668435119, "score_A": 6, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "An MRI would be your next best step.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 45007.0, "score_ratio": 6.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "yv0jze", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Heartbroken trying to make a decision for my cat She\u2019s 9 years old, spayed, shorthair, approx. 8 lbs, down from 10.5 a month ago.  She started having some issues with her ears being touched 3-4 weeks ago. Ear mites were ruled out, but a couple days after her ear problem started, her left eye got inflamed. The vet said it was a bacterial infection and gave topical antibiotics for both.  After 10 days, her condition hadn\u2019t improved. She started struggling to eat and lost weight rapidly. Last week I took her to a different vet and they gave me an oral antibiotic, a steroid, and painkillers.  Eye pressure test ruled out glaucoma.  Elevated proteins in her globulins determined most likely due to dehydration, everything else from blood work was normal.   X-rays didn\u2019t turn up anything aside from constipation which she received an enema for.  They said a tooth abscess was a possibility, but are largely leaning toward a mass behind her eye. They couldn\u2019t get a good look inside her mouth and don\u2019t offer dental X-rays, but are iffy about having her undergo anesthesia to do them because she\u2019s gotten so frail.  Over this past weekend she started trying to eat. She gets excited about her food but she struggles with it. It\u2019s like she gets a pain in her ear and twists her head. The past couple times she has eaten, she stumbles and falls over when walking away from her bowl, but seems fine a few minutes later.  We\u2019re 6 days into her new meds, but it doesn\u2019t seem to be helping overall.  I just don\u2019t know what to do. If it is a mass behind her eye, I really can\u2019t afford to do the scans and treatment. I also don\u2019t know if it\u2019s worth trying to rule out the abscess. I feel so bad for her and don\u2019t want her to suffer anymore, but I feel like it\u2019s not fair to just let her go \ud83d\ude22  Pictured is my beautiful baby trying to eat \ud83d\ude2d    https://i.imgur.com/GFPGLCZ.jpg", "c_root_id_A": "iwdb2hj", "c_root_id_B": "iwemvwq", "created_at_utc_A": 1668456718, "created_at_utc_B": 1668477083, "score_A": 8, "score_B": 14, "human_ref_A": "Has she had a full blood panel done?", "human_ref_B": "Can you warm the food and syringe feed to see if that makes a difference in how she receives food?", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 20365.0, "score_ratio": 1.75, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "yv0jze", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Heartbroken trying to make a decision for my cat She\u2019s 9 years old, spayed, shorthair, approx. 8 lbs, down from 10.5 a month ago.  She started having some issues with her ears being touched 3-4 weeks ago. Ear mites were ruled out, but a couple days after her ear problem started, her left eye got inflamed. The vet said it was a bacterial infection and gave topical antibiotics for both.  After 10 days, her condition hadn\u2019t improved. She started struggling to eat and lost weight rapidly. Last week I took her to a different vet and they gave me an oral antibiotic, a steroid, and painkillers.  Eye pressure test ruled out glaucoma.  Elevated proteins in her globulins determined most likely due to dehydration, everything else from blood work was normal.   X-rays didn\u2019t turn up anything aside from constipation which she received an enema for.  They said a tooth abscess was a possibility, but are largely leaning toward a mass behind her eye. They couldn\u2019t get a good look inside her mouth and don\u2019t offer dental X-rays, but are iffy about having her undergo anesthesia to do them because she\u2019s gotten so frail.  Over this past weekend she started trying to eat. She gets excited about her food but she struggles with it. It\u2019s like she gets a pain in her ear and twists her head. The past couple times she has eaten, she stumbles and falls over when walking away from her bowl, but seems fine a few minutes later.  We\u2019re 6 days into her new meds, but it doesn\u2019t seem to be helping overall.  I just don\u2019t know what to do. If it is a mass behind her eye, I really can\u2019t afford to do the scans and treatment. I also don\u2019t know if it\u2019s worth trying to rule out the abscess. I feel so bad for her and don\u2019t want her to suffer anymore, but I feel like it\u2019s not fair to just let her go \ud83d\ude22  Pictured is my beautiful baby trying to eat \ud83d\ude2d    https://i.imgur.com/GFPGLCZ.jpg", "c_root_id_A": "iwemvwq", "c_root_id_B": "iwde4gk", "created_at_utc_A": 1668477083, "created_at_utc_B": 1668457907, "score_A": 14, "score_B": 9, "human_ref_A": "Can you warm the food and syringe feed to see if that makes a difference in how she receives food?", "human_ref_B": "Can you get a second opinion ?", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 19176.0, "score_ratio": 1.5555555556, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "yv0jze", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Heartbroken trying to make a decision for my cat She\u2019s 9 years old, spayed, shorthair, approx. 8 lbs, down from 10.5 a month ago.  She started having some issues with her ears being touched 3-4 weeks ago. Ear mites were ruled out, but a couple days after her ear problem started, her left eye got inflamed. The vet said it was a bacterial infection and gave topical antibiotics for both.  After 10 days, her condition hadn\u2019t improved. She started struggling to eat and lost weight rapidly. Last week I took her to a different vet and they gave me an oral antibiotic, a steroid, and painkillers.  Eye pressure test ruled out glaucoma.  Elevated proteins in her globulins determined most likely due to dehydration, everything else from blood work was normal.   X-rays didn\u2019t turn up anything aside from constipation which she received an enema for.  They said a tooth abscess was a possibility, but are largely leaning toward a mass behind her eye. They couldn\u2019t get a good look inside her mouth and don\u2019t offer dental X-rays, but are iffy about having her undergo anesthesia to do them because she\u2019s gotten so frail.  Over this past weekend she started trying to eat. She gets excited about her food but she struggles with it. It\u2019s like she gets a pain in her ear and twists her head. The past couple times she has eaten, she stumbles and falls over when walking away from her bowl, but seems fine a few minutes later.  We\u2019re 6 days into her new meds, but it doesn\u2019t seem to be helping overall.  I just don\u2019t know what to do. If it is a mass behind her eye, I really can\u2019t afford to do the scans and treatment. I also don\u2019t know if it\u2019s worth trying to rule out the abscess. I feel so bad for her and don\u2019t want her to suffer anymore, but I feel like it\u2019s not fair to just let her go \ud83d\ude22  Pictured is my beautiful baby trying to eat \ud83d\ude2d    https://i.imgur.com/GFPGLCZ.jpg", "c_root_id_A": "iwdb2hj", "c_root_id_B": "iwde4gk", "created_at_utc_A": 1668456718, "created_at_utc_B": 1668457907, "score_A": 8, "score_B": 9, "human_ref_A": "Has she had a full blood panel done?", "human_ref_B": "Can you get a second opinion ?", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 1189.0, "score_ratio": 1.125, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "9nkmjn", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.93, "history": "My dog suddenly during a routine procedure. Today my dog died.   She was a 13(or so) old Pekingese. I took her in for her second round of vaccinations and to discuss potential dental cleaning as her breath was horrid.   Backstory:   I adopted her nearly 5 years ago. A dental expert estimated her age at about 5-7. She had horrid teeth. He removed 18 during a 2 hr surgery in Spring 2014. Even though I tried to brush them as best I could (she hated it) little by little tartar returned. In Nov 2016 she needed an emergency surgery for a bladder obstruction. Her bloodwork showed less than ideal liver numbers but she survived and had her teeth done again.   Then in Nov 2017 I noticed her sleeping alot more. I noticed her eye was a little red. I took her for a senior check up and the doctor found a glaucoma. I tried treating it but she lost the eye in January 2018. Lost the second in March 2018. In February I had a eye puncture done to try and save her second eye but it failed so it was removed.   With each of these surgeries I thought my dog was gonna die. The eye removals and bladder stones were emergencies and yet she lived.   After her eyes were gone shr was unbothered. Lived her dog life. Didnt like walkig outside that much so I pushed her in a dog stroller. She was still eating etc. She was never \"active\" or playful. Just my dog.   Jump to the present:   Over the last few weeks Ive had a random (unexplained) anxiety about my dog dying. Like when I got home the first thing Id do was check that she was alive(?). She was 85% the same dog. But I did notice a few things:   1. She was breathing more often through her mouth while asleep. She never did this but she is a smush faced dog so....   2. She was panting indoors randomly. I attributed it to overheating (due to her long coat during summer) but it ws rare so I thought nothing much of it.   2. She had a period of incontinence. She was peeing in her sleep and while standing (without squatting) without realizing it. And this is a dog who HATES her own urine. The vet did a bladder check and it was clear. Then for the next 6 weeks the incontinence stopped and she started getting up to use her in house pee pads again.   3. About 4 weeks ago she started eating less. Usually she eats twice a day. But she was always picky (and blind) so I figured she was just not aware of the time. I bought her some cheaper (more fragrant) dog food and mixed it with water. She ate more at first. But then started eating once a day. Then eating 90% of the food a coming back for the rest hours later. 3 weeks ago she hadnt eating for like 36 hrs so I was worried. So I gave her some plain yogurt with low fat and water mixed in. She ate it. This is when I thought her teeth might be the reason. But again she simple returned to eating semi regularly. Though her love of table food waned. (Attributed to a sore mouth).   Jump to today:   I took her to the vet this morning. Discussed her teeth with the vet. I wanted to know the state of her mouth. And asked if it would be better to remove her leftover 22 teeth rather than putting her under again next year when she was even older.   He said he needed an xray and inspection of the mouth. To get that he would have to put her under for a short time and he would need bloodwork and a heart and lung xray.   So I agreed.   Bloodwork came out mostly normal. Her inflammation numbers were up. But slightly above average.(likely cause of her mouth). Her anemic levels were low (slightly below average). All her number were normal or in 1-3 points of normal.   This vet went through the same process for each surgery and was confident it was fine to proceed and I agreed. I handed over my dog and waited outside.   Time passed. Other people were waiting. Both vets were in the OR with my dog. I could hear a machine beeping. But I remained calm because Ive heard that sound in surgeries before. 35 mins passed. I was getting a little worried. But figured they were working on another dog and mine was up next or got delayed and procedure started much later after they took her back.   Then they called me in the exam room. I swear I was about to get my dog handed to me. And they asked me to come to the back.   She was lying there with tubes in her mouth. Dead.   They explained this:   They administered a low level of propofol and when the medicine was pushed her lungs simply stopped pumping. They said this can happen in certain situations for a few seconds with dogs but the lungs will restart pumping. Hers didnt. So they pushed medicine to reactivate the heart. But it didnt work. So they tried for like 25 minutes to revive her and failed. She passed away and they never even got to the xray and exam.   What the fuck?!?   I couldnt believe it. She was old. But she her major organs were all in good health. She wasnt allergic to it as all her last procedures used the exact same medicine and in higher doses for a longer time.   But this time it killed her. And I cant figure out why. They explained that this happened very rarely. And online research says the same. They are a busy vet and said this happens to them once a year but rarely twice.   But what I cant find is an explaination. Why would a low dose of propofol cause lungs to simply stop? The only explaination I find online are all \"veterinary negligence\" which is possible. But in the years I went there when I heard  OR machines going both vets were always back there, the same as this time. Assuming it wasnt negligence on their part,  what could have caused it? Shock? I literally can find anything on it. Like no one studies the \"unknown\" anesthetic deaths or something but that cant be true.   The more I think about it the more I feel like my dog was showing yellow flags that she was in a cognitive decline. Maybe she wasnt going to die right away, but she was slowly on her way. And this procedure at this moment pushed her over the edge and she died. And whatever caused it wasnt picked up by bloodwork tests or x rays.   The vets arent bad people. Its possible they fucked up. But they seemed to be in just as much shock as I was. Because theyve done this hundreds of times before and this is the first sudden death in a while. They even paid for her funeral and cremation.   I always figured she would get some acute disease like kidney failure and I would have time to  process her impending death and hold her while I put her down. She died at around 11:45 this morning. Thry told me at 12:13pm. I brought her ashes home at 3:00pm. And now her urn is sitting on a shelf in front of me.   I had a dog exactly 12 hours ago. 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{"post_id": "9nkmjn", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.93, "history": "My dog suddenly during a routine procedure. Today my dog died.   She was a 13(or so) old Pekingese. I took her in for her second round of vaccinations and to discuss potential dental cleaning as her breath was horrid.   Backstory:   I adopted her nearly 5 years ago. A dental expert estimated her age at about 5-7. She had horrid teeth. He removed 18 during a 2 hr surgery in Spring 2014. Even though I tried to brush them as best I could (she hated it) little by little tartar returned. In Nov 2016 she needed an emergency surgery for a bladder obstruction. Her bloodwork showed less than ideal liver numbers but she survived and had her teeth done again.   Then in Nov 2017 I noticed her sleeping alot more. I noticed her eye was a little red. I took her for a senior check up and the doctor found a glaucoma. I tried treating it but she lost the eye in January 2018. Lost the second in March 2018. In February I had a eye puncture done to try and save her second eye but it failed so it was removed.   With each of these surgeries I thought my dog was gonna die. The eye removals and bladder stones were emergencies and yet she lived.   After her eyes were gone shr was unbothered. Lived her dog life. Didnt like walkig outside that much so I pushed her in a dog stroller. She was still eating etc. She was never \"active\" or playful. Just my dog.   Jump to the present:   Over the last few weeks Ive had a random (unexplained) anxiety about my dog dying. Like when I got home the first thing Id do was check that she was alive(?). She was 85% the same dog. But I did notice a few things:   1. She was breathing more often through her mouth while asleep. She never did this but she is a smush faced dog so....   2. She was panting indoors randomly. I attributed it to overheating (due to her long coat during summer) but it ws rare so I thought nothing much of it.   2. She had a period of incontinence. She was peeing in her sleep and while standing (without squatting) without realizing it. And this is a dog who HATES her own urine. The vet did a bladder check and it was clear. Then for the next 6 weeks the incontinence stopped and she started getting up to use her in house pee pads again.   3. About 4 weeks ago she started eating less. Usually she eats twice a day. But she was always picky (and blind) so I figured she was just not aware of the time. I bought her some cheaper (more fragrant) dog food and mixed it with water. She ate more at first. But then started eating once a day. Then eating 90% of the food a coming back for the rest hours later. 3 weeks ago she hadnt eating for like 36 hrs so I was worried. So I gave her some plain yogurt with low fat and water mixed in. She ate it. This is when I thought her teeth might be the reason. But again she simple returned to eating semi regularly. Though her love of table food waned. (Attributed to a sore mouth).   Jump to today:   I took her to the vet this morning. Discussed her teeth with the vet. I wanted to know the state of her mouth. And asked if it would be better to remove her leftover 22 teeth rather than putting her under again next year when she was even older.   He said he needed an xray and inspection of the mouth. To get that he would have to put her under for a short time and he would need bloodwork and a heart and lung xray.   So I agreed.   Bloodwork came out mostly normal. Her inflammation numbers were up. But slightly above average.(likely cause of her mouth). Her anemic levels were low (slightly below average). All her number were normal or in 1-3 points of normal.   This vet went through the same process for each surgery and was confident it was fine to proceed and I agreed. I handed over my dog and waited outside.   Time passed. Other people were waiting. Both vets were in the OR with my dog. I could hear a machine beeping. But I remained calm because Ive heard that sound in surgeries before. 35 mins passed. I was getting a little worried. But figured they were working on another dog and mine was up next or got delayed and procedure started much later after they took her back.   Then they called me in the exam room. I swear I was about to get my dog handed to me. And they asked me to come to the back.   She was lying there with tubes in her mouth. Dead.   They explained this:   They administered a low level of propofol and when the medicine was pushed her lungs simply stopped pumping. They said this can happen in certain situations for a few seconds with dogs but the lungs will restart pumping. Hers didnt. So they pushed medicine to reactivate the heart. But it didnt work. So they tried for like 25 minutes to revive her and failed. She passed away and they never even got to the xray and exam.   What the fuck?!?   I couldnt believe it. She was old. But she her major organs were all in good health. She wasnt allergic to it as all her last procedures used the exact same medicine and in higher doses for a longer time.   But this time it killed her. And I cant figure out why. They explained that this happened very rarely. And online research says the same. They are a busy vet and said this happens to them once a year but rarely twice.   But what I cant find is an explaination. Why would a low dose of propofol cause lungs to simply stop? The only explaination I find online are all \"veterinary negligence\" which is possible. But in the years I went there when I heard  OR machines going both vets were always back there, the same as this time. Assuming it wasnt negligence on their part,  what could have caused it? Shock? I literally can find anything on it. Like no one studies the \"unknown\" anesthetic deaths or something but that cant be true.   The more I think about it the more I feel like my dog was showing yellow flags that she was in a cognitive decline. Maybe she wasnt going to die right away, but she was slowly on her way. And this procedure at this moment pushed her over the edge and she died. And whatever caused it wasnt picked up by bloodwork tests or x rays.   The vets arent bad people. Its possible they fucked up. But they seemed to be in just as much shock as I was. Because theyve done this hundreds of times before and this is the first sudden death in a while. They even paid for her funeral and cremation.   I always figured she would get some acute disease like kidney failure and I would have time to  process her impending death and hold her while I put her down. She died at around 11:45 this morning. Thry told me at 12:13pm. I brought her ashes home at 3:00pm. And now her urn is sitting on a shelf in front of me.   I had a dog exactly 12 hours ago. 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{"post_id": "9nkmjn", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.93, "history": "My dog suddenly during a routine procedure. Today my dog died.   She was a 13(or so) old Pekingese. I took her in for her second round of vaccinations and to discuss potential dental cleaning as her breath was horrid.   Backstory:   I adopted her nearly 5 years ago. A dental expert estimated her age at about 5-7. She had horrid teeth. He removed 18 during a 2 hr surgery in Spring 2014. Even though I tried to brush them as best I could (she hated it) little by little tartar returned. In Nov 2016 she needed an emergency surgery for a bladder obstruction. Her bloodwork showed less than ideal liver numbers but she survived and had her teeth done again.   Then in Nov 2017 I noticed her sleeping alot more. I noticed her eye was a little red. I took her for a senior check up and the doctor found a glaucoma. I tried treating it but she lost the eye in January 2018. Lost the second in March 2018. In February I had a eye puncture done to try and save her second eye but it failed so it was removed.   With each of these surgeries I thought my dog was gonna die. The eye removals and bladder stones were emergencies and yet she lived.   After her eyes were gone shr was unbothered. Lived her dog life. Didnt like walkig outside that much so I pushed her in a dog stroller. She was still eating etc. She was never \"active\" or playful. Just my dog.   Jump to the present:   Over the last few weeks Ive had a random (unexplained) anxiety about my dog dying. Like when I got home the first thing Id do was check that she was alive(?). She was 85% the same dog. But I did notice a few things:   1. She was breathing more often through her mouth while asleep. She never did this but she is a smush faced dog so....   2. She was panting indoors randomly. I attributed it to overheating (due to her long coat during summer) but it ws rare so I thought nothing much of it.   2. She had a period of incontinence. She was peeing in her sleep and while standing (without squatting) without realizing it. And this is a dog who HATES her own urine. The vet did a bladder check and it was clear. Then for the next 6 weeks the incontinence stopped and she started getting up to use her in house pee pads again.   3. About 4 weeks ago she started eating less. Usually she eats twice a day. But she was always picky (and blind) so I figured she was just not aware of the time. I bought her some cheaper (more fragrant) dog food and mixed it with water. She ate more at first. But then started eating once a day. Then eating 90% of the food a coming back for the rest hours later. 3 weeks ago she hadnt eating for like 36 hrs so I was worried. So I gave her some plain yogurt with low fat and water mixed in. She ate it. This is when I thought her teeth might be the reason. But again she simple returned to eating semi regularly. Though her love of table food waned. (Attributed to a sore mouth).   Jump to today:   I took her to the vet this morning. Discussed her teeth with the vet. I wanted to know the state of her mouth. And asked if it would be better to remove her leftover 22 teeth rather than putting her under again next year when she was even older.   He said he needed an xray and inspection of the mouth. To get that he would have to put her under for a short time and he would need bloodwork and a heart and lung xray.   So I agreed.   Bloodwork came out mostly normal. Her inflammation numbers were up. But slightly above average.(likely cause of her mouth). Her anemic levels were low (slightly below average). All her number were normal or in 1-3 points of normal.   This vet went through the same process for each surgery and was confident it was fine to proceed and I agreed. I handed over my dog and waited outside.   Time passed. Other people were waiting. Both vets were in the OR with my dog. I could hear a machine beeping. But I remained calm because Ive heard that sound in surgeries before. 35 mins passed. I was getting a little worried. But figured they were working on another dog and mine was up next or got delayed and procedure started much later after they took her back.   Then they called me in the exam room. I swear I was about to get my dog handed to me. And they asked me to come to the back.   She was lying there with tubes in her mouth. Dead.   They explained this:   They administered a low level of propofol and when the medicine was pushed her lungs simply stopped pumping. They said this can happen in certain situations for a few seconds with dogs but the lungs will restart pumping. Hers didnt. So they pushed medicine to reactivate the heart. But it didnt work. So they tried for like 25 minutes to revive her and failed. She passed away and they never even got to the xray and exam.   What the fuck?!?   I couldnt believe it. She was old. But she her major organs were all in good health. She wasnt allergic to it as all her last procedures used the exact same medicine and in higher doses for a longer time.   But this time it killed her. And I cant figure out why. They explained that this happened very rarely. And online research says the same. They are a busy vet and said this happens to them once a year but rarely twice.   But what I cant find is an explaination. Why would a low dose of propofol cause lungs to simply stop? The only explaination I find online are all \"veterinary negligence\" which is possible. But in the years I went there when I heard  OR machines going both vets were always back there, the same as this time. Assuming it wasnt negligence on their part,  what could have caused it? Shock? I literally can find anything on it. Like no one studies the \"unknown\" anesthetic deaths or something but that cant be true.   The more I think about it the more I feel like my dog was showing yellow flags that she was in a cognitive decline. Maybe she wasnt going to die right away, but she was slowly on her way. And this procedure at this moment pushed her over the edge and she died. And whatever caused it wasnt picked up by bloodwork tests or x rays.   The vets arent bad people. Its possible they fucked up. But they seemed to be in just as much shock as I was. Because theyve done this hundreds of times before and this is the first sudden death in a while. They even paid for her funeral and cremation.   I always figured she would get some acute disease like kidney failure and I would have time to  process her impending death and hold her while I put her down. She died at around 11:45 this morning. Thry told me at 12:13pm. I brought her ashes home at 3:00pm. And now her urn is sitting on a shelf in front of me.   I had a dog exactly 12 hours ago. And now I dont.  &#x200B;", "c_root_id_A": "e7n4sy4", "c_root_id_B": "e7n5kdf", "created_at_utc_A": 1539360050, "created_at_utc_B": 1539360702, "score_A": -53, "score_B": 23, "human_ref_A": "What is your question?", "human_ref_B": "I'm sorry for your loss, its obvious you  loved her and im sure she was a very happy dog, you did so much for her and tried to take care of her ailments, bless you. Maybe it was just her time, she could have gone that same day without the surgery, you said yourself you were having anxiety about it, and its obvious how connected you were with her.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 652.0, "score_ratio": -0.4339622642, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "9nkmjn", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.93, "history": "My dog suddenly during a routine procedure. Today my dog died.   She was a 13(or so) old Pekingese. I took her in for her second round of vaccinations and to discuss potential dental cleaning as her breath was horrid.   Backstory:   I adopted her nearly 5 years ago. A dental expert estimated her age at about 5-7. She had horrid teeth. He removed 18 during a 2 hr surgery in Spring 2014. Even though I tried to brush them as best I could (she hated it) little by little tartar returned. In Nov 2016 she needed an emergency surgery for a bladder obstruction. Her bloodwork showed less than ideal liver numbers but she survived and had her teeth done again.   Then in Nov 2017 I noticed her sleeping alot more. I noticed her eye was a little red. I took her for a senior check up and the doctor found a glaucoma. I tried treating it but she lost the eye in January 2018. Lost the second in March 2018. In February I had a eye puncture done to try and save her second eye but it failed so it was removed.   With each of these surgeries I thought my dog was gonna die. The eye removals and bladder stones were emergencies and yet she lived.   After her eyes were gone shr was unbothered. Lived her dog life. Didnt like walkig outside that much so I pushed her in a dog stroller. She was still eating etc. She was never \"active\" or playful. Just my dog.   Jump to the present:   Over the last few weeks Ive had a random (unexplained) anxiety about my dog dying. Like when I got home the first thing Id do was check that she was alive(?). She was 85% the same dog. But I did notice a few things:   1. She was breathing more often through her mouth while asleep. She never did this but she is a smush faced dog so....   2. She was panting indoors randomly. I attributed it to overheating (due to her long coat during summer) but it ws rare so I thought nothing much of it.   2. She had a period of incontinence. She was peeing in her sleep and while standing (without squatting) without realizing it. And this is a dog who HATES her own urine. The vet did a bladder check and it was clear. Then for the next 6 weeks the incontinence stopped and she started getting up to use her in house pee pads again.   3. About 4 weeks ago she started eating less. Usually she eats twice a day. But she was always picky (and blind) so I figured she was just not aware of the time. I bought her some cheaper (more fragrant) dog food and mixed it with water. She ate more at first. But then started eating once a day. Then eating 90% of the food a coming back for the rest hours later. 3 weeks ago she hadnt eating for like 36 hrs so I was worried. So I gave her some plain yogurt with low fat and water mixed in. She ate it. This is when I thought her teeth might be the reason. But again she simple returned to eating semi regularly. Though her love of table food waned. (Attributed to a sore mouth).   Jump to today:   I took her to the vet this morning. Discussed her teeth with the vet. I wanted to know the state of her mouth. And asked if it would be better to remove her leftover 22 teeth rather than putting her under again next year when she was even older.   He said he needed an xray and inspection of the mouth. To get that he would have to put her under for a short time and he would need bloodwork and a heart and lung xray.   So I agreed.   Bloodwork came out mostly normal. Her inflammation numbers were up. But slightly above average.(likely cause of her mouth). Her anemic levels were low (slightly below average). All her number were normal or in 1-3 points of normal.   This vet went through the same process for each surgery and was confident it was fine to proceed and I agreed. I handed over my dog and waited outside.   Time passed. Other people were waiting. Both vets were in the OR with my dog. I could hear a machine beeping. But I remained calm because Ive heard that sound in surgeries before. 35 mins passed. I was getting a little worried. But figured they were working on another dog and mine was up next or got delayed and procedure started much later after they took her back.   Then they called me in the exam room. I swear I was about to get my dog handed to me. And they asked me to come to the back.   She was lying there with tubes in her mouth. Dead.   They explained this:   They administered a low level of propofol and when the medicine was pushed her lungs simply stopped pumping. They said this can happen in certain situations for a few seconds with dogs but the lungs will restart pumping. Hers didnt. So they pushed medicine to reactivate the heart. But it didnt work. So they tried for like 25 minutes to revive her and failed. She passed away and they never even got to the xray and exam.   What the fuck?!?   I couldnt believe it. She was old. But she her major organs were all in good health. She wasnt allergic to it as all her last procedures used the exact same medicine and in higher doses for a longer time.   But this time it killed her. And I cant figure out why. They explained that this happened very rarely. And online research says the same. They are a busy vet and said this happens to them once a year but rarely twice.   But what I cant find is an explaination. Why would a low dose of propofol cause lungs to simply stop? The only explaination I find online are all \"veterinary negligence\" which is possible. But in the years I went there when I heard  OR machines going both vets were always back there, the same as this time. Assuming it wasnt negligence on their part,  what could have caused it? Shock? I literally can find anything on it. Like no one studies the \"unknown\" anesthetic deaths or something but that cant be true.   The more I think about it the more I feel like my dog was showing yellow flags that she was in a cognitive decline. Maybe she wasnt going to die right away, but she was slowly on her way. And this procedure at this moment pushed her over the edge and she died. And whatever caused it wasnt picked up by bloodwork tests or x rays.   The vets arent bad people. Its possible they fucked up. But they seemed to be in just as much shock as I was. Because theyve done this hundreds of times before and this is the first sudden death in a while. They even paid for her funeral and cremation.   I always figured she would get some acute disease like kidney failure and I would have time to  process her impending death and hold her while I put her down. She died at around 11:45 this morning. Thry told me at 12:13pm. I brought her ashes home at 3:00pm. And now her urn is sitting on a shelf in front of me.   I had a dog exactly 12 hours ago. And now I dont.  &#x200B;", "c_root_id_A": "e7n43yu", "c_root_id_B": "e7n94pr", "created_at_utc_A": 1539359456, "created_at_utc_B": 1539363718, "score_A": 6, "score_B": 20, "human_ref_A": "I am sorry for your loss.", "human_ref_B": "I am so sorry for your loss. It sounds like you are very aware that with any amount or length of anesthesia there are risks. The biggest risk with propofol is apnea (stopping breathing). In most cases with healthy animals, their breathing slows down after the propofol is administered but not so much that they are in danger of dying, and after a breathing tube is placed and they are put on the anesthetic gas, they can be manually ventilated and their breathing becomes more stable. In the case of a senior dog with possible underlying conditions, it\u2019s possible that the decreased ventilation caused by the propofol was just too much for your dog to handle. As well, \u201csmushed face\u201d dogs have more difficulty breathing due to their anatomy. So it\u2019s also possible that the propofol caused hypoventilation or apnea and due to the anatomy of the dog combined with her age it was just too much for her. Regardless, it is a terrible thing to go through as an owner and please do not blame yourself, it is not your fault at all. Take care\u2764\ufe0f", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 4262.0, "score_ratio": 3.3333333333, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "9nkmjn", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.93, "history": "My dog suddenly during a routine procedure. Today my dog died.   She was a 13(or so) old Pekingese. I took her in for her second round of vaccinations and to discuss potential dental cleaning as her breath was horrid.   Backstory:   I adopted her nearly 5 years ago. A dental expert estimated her age at about 5-7. She had horrid teeth. He removed 18 during a 2 hr surgery in Spring 2014. Even though I tried to brush them as best I could (she hated it) little by little tartar returned. In Nov 2016 she needed an emergency surgery for a bladder obstruction. Her bloodwork showed less than ideal liver numbers but she survived and had her teeth done again.   Then in Nov 2017 I noticed her sleeping alot more. I noticed her eye was a little red. I took her for a senior check up and the doctor found a glaucoma. I tried treating it but she lost the eye in January 2018. Lost the second in March 2018. In February I had a eye puncture done to try and save her second eye but it failed so it was removed.   With each of these surgeries I thought my dog was gonna die. The eye removals and bladder stones were emergencies and yet she lived.   After her eyes were gone shr was unbothered. Lived her dog life. Didnt like walkig outside that much so I pushed her in a dog stroller. She was still eating etc. She was never \"active\" or playful. Just my dog.   Jump to the present:   Over the last few weeks Ive had a random (unexplained) anxiety about my dog dying. Like when I got home the first thing Id do was check that she was alive(?). She was 85% the same dog. But I did notice a few things:   1. She was breathing more often through her mouth while asleep. She never did this but she is a smush faced dog so....   2. She was panting indoors randomly. I attributed it to overheating (due to her long coat during summer) but it ws rare so I thought nothing much of it.   2. She had a period of incontinence. She was peeing in her sleep and while standing (without squatting) without realizing it. And this is a dog who HATES her own urine. The vet did a bladder check and it was clear. Then for the next 6 weeks the incontinence stopped and she started getting up to use her in house pee pads again.   3. About 4 weeks ago she started eating less. Usually she eats twice a day. But she was always picky (and blind) so I figured she was just not aware of the time. I bought her some cheaper (more fragrant) dog food and mixed it with water. She ate more at first. But then started eating once a day. Then eating 90% of the food a coming back for the rest hours later. 3 weeks ago she hadnt eating for like 36 hrs so I was worried. So I gave her some plain yogurt with low fat and water mixed in. She ate it. This is when I thought her teeth might be the reason. But again she simple returned to eating semi regularly. Though her love of table food waned. (Attributed to a sore mouth).   Jump to today:   I took her to the vet this morning. Discussed her teeth with the vet. I wanted to know the state of her mouth. And asked if it would be better to remove her leftover 22 teeth rather than putting her under again next year when she was even older.   He said he needed an xray and inspection of the mouth. To get that he would have to put her under for a short time and he would need bloodwork and a heart and lung xray.   So I agreed.   Bloodwork came out mostly normal. Her inflammation numbers were up. But slightly above average.(likely cause of her mouth). Her anemic levels were low (slightly below average). All her number were normal or in 1-3 points of normal.   This vet went through the same process for each surgery and was confident it was fine to proceed and I agreed. I handed over my dog and waited outside.   Time passed. Other people were waiting. Both vets were in the OR with my dog. I could hear a machine beeping. But I remained calm because Ive heard that sound in surgeries before. 35 mins passed. I was getting a little worried. But figured they were working on another dog and mine was up next or got delayed and procedure started much later after they took her back.   Then they called me in the exam room. I swear I was about to get my dog handed to me. And they asked me to come to the back.   She was lying there with tubes in her mouth. Dead.   They explained this:   They administered a low level of propofol and when the medicine was pushed her lungs simply stopped pumping. They said this can happen in certain situations for a few seconds with dogs but the lungs will restart pumping. Hers didnt. So they pushed medicine to reactivate the heart. But it didnt work. So they tried for like 25 minutes to revive her and failed. She passed away and they never even got to the xray and exam.   What the fuck?!?   I couldnt believe it. She was old. But she her major organs were all in good health. She wasnt allergic to it as all her last procedures used the exact same medicine and in higher doses for a longer time.   But this time it killed her. And I cant figure out why. They explained that this happened very rarely. And online research says the same. They are a busy vet and said this happens to them once a year but rarely twice.   But what I cant find is an explaination. Why would a low dose of propofol cause lungs to simply stop? The only explaination I find online are all \"veterinary negligence\" which is possible. But in the years I went there when I heard  OR machines going both vets were always back there, the same as this time. Assuming it wasnt negligence on their part,  what could have caused it? Shock? I literally can find anything on it. Like no one studies the \"unknown\" anesthetic deaths or something but that cant be true.   The more I think about it the more I feel like my dog was showing yellow flags that she was in a cognitive decline. Maybe she wasnt going to die right away, but she was slowly on her way. And this procedure at this moment pushed her over the edge and she died. And whatever caused it wasnt picked up by bloodwork tests or x rays.   The vets arent bad people. Its possible they fucked up. But they seemed to be in just as much shock as I was. Because theyve done this hundreds of times before and this is the first sudden death in a while. They even paid for her funeral and cremation.   I always figured she would get some acute disease like kidney failure and I would have time to  process her impending death and hold her while I put her down. She died at around 11:45 this morning. Thry told me at 12:13pm. I brought her ashes home at 3:00pm. And now her urn is sitting on a shelf in front of me.   I had a dog exactly 12 hours ago. And now I dont.  &#x200B;", "c_root_id_A": "e7n94pr", "c_root_id_B": "e7mxhm3", "created_at_utc_A": 1539363718, "created_at_utc_B": 1539353674, "score_A": 20, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I am so sorry for your loss. It sounds like you are very aware that with any amount or length of anesthesia there are risks. The biggest risk with propofol is apnea (stopping breathing). In most cases with healthy animals, their breathing slows down after the propofol is administered but not so much that they are in danger of dying, and after a breathing tube is placed and they are put on the anesthetic gas, they can be manually ventilated and their breathing becomes more stable. In the case of a senior dog with possible underlying conditions, it\u2019s possible that the decreased ventilation caused by the propofol was just too much for your dog to handle. As well, \u201csmushed face\u201d dogs have more difficulty breathing due to their anatomy. So it\u2019s also possible that the propofol caused hypoventilation or apnea and due to the anatomy of the dog combined with her age it was just too much for her. Regardless, it is a terrible thing to go through as an owner and please do not blame yourself, it is not your fault at all. Take care\u2764\ufe0f", "human_ref_B": "Your post **has not** been removed. This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. 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{"post_id": "9nkmjn", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.93, "history": "My dog suddenly during a routine procedure. Today my dog died.   She was a 13(or so) old Pekingese. I took her in for her second round of vaccinations and to discuss potential dental cleaning as her breath was horrid.   Backstory:   I adopted her nearly 5 years ago. A dental expert estimated her age at about 5-7. She had horrid teeth. He removed 18 during a 2 hr surgery in Spring 2014. Even though I tried to brush them as best I could (she hated it) little by little tartar returned. In Nov 2016 she needed an emergency surgery for a bladder obstruction. Her bloodwork showed less than ideal liver numbers but she survived and had her teeth done again.   Then in Nov 2017 I noticed her sleeping alot more. I noticed her eye was a little red. I took her for a senior check up and the doctor found a glaucoma. I tried treating it but she lost the eye in January 2018. Lost the second in March 2018. In February I had a eye puncture done to try and save her second eye but it failed so it was removed.   With each of these surgeries I thought my dog was gonna die. The eye removals and bladder stones were emergencies and yet she lived.   After her eyes were gone shr was unbothered. Lived her dog life. Didnt like walkig outside that much so I pushed her in a dog stroller. She was still eating etc. She was never \"active\" or playful. Just my dog.   Jump to the present:   Over the last few weeks Ive had a random (unexplained) anxiety about my dog dying. Like when I got home the first thing Id do was check that she was alive(?). She was 85% the same dog. But I did notice a few things:   1. She was breathing more often through her mouth while asleep. She never did this but she is a smush faced dog so....   2. She was panting indoors randomly. I attributed it to overheating (due to her long coat during summer) but it ws rare so I thought nothing much of it.   2. She had a period of incontinence. She was peeing in her sleep and while standing (without squatting) without realizing it. And this is a dog who HATES her own urine. The vet did a bladder check and it was clear. Then for the next 6 weeks the incontinence stopped and she started getting up to use her in house pee pads again.   3. About 4 weeks ago she started eating less. Usually she eats twice a day. But she was always picky (and blind) so I figured she was just not aware of the time. I bought her some cheaper (more fragrant) dog food and mixed it with water. She ate more at first. But then started eating once a day. Then eating 90% of the food a coming back for the rest hours later. 3 weeks ago she hadnt eating for like 36 hrs so I was worried. So I gave her some plain yogurt with low fat and water mixed in. She ate it. This is when I thought her teeth might be the reason. But again she simple returned to eating semi regularly. Though her love of table food waned. (Attributed to a sore mouth).   Jump to today:   I took her to the vet this morning. Discussed her teeth with the vet. I wanted to know the state of her mouth. And asked if it would be better to remove her leftover 22 teeth rather than putting her under again next year when she was even older.   He said he needed an xray and inspection of the mouth. To get that he would have to put her under for a short time and he would need bloodwork and a heart and lung xray.   So I agreed.   Bloodwork came out mostly normal. Her inflammation numbers were up. But slightly above average.(likely cause of her mouth). Her anemic levels were low (slightly below average). All her number were normal or in 1-3 points of normal.   This vet went through the same process for each surgery and was confident it was fine to proceed and I agreed. I handed over my dog and waited outside.   Time passed. Other people were waiting. Both vets were in the OR with my dog. I could hear a machine beeping. But I remained calm because Ive heard that sound in surgeries before. 35 mins passed. I was getting a little worried. But figured they were working on another dog and mine was up next or got delayed and procedure started much later after they took her back.   Then they called me in the exam room. I swear I was about to get my dog handed to me. And they asked me to come to the back.   She was lying there with tubes in her mouth. Dead.   They explained this:   They administered a low level of propofol and when the medicine was pushed her lungs simply stopped pumping. They said this can happen in certain situations for a few seconds with dogs but the lungs will restart pumping. Hers didnt. So they pushed medicine to reactivate the heart. But it didnt work. So they tried for like 25 minutes to revive her and failed. She passed away and they never even got to the xray and exam.   What the fuck?!?   I couldnt believe it. She was old. But she her major organs were all in good health. She wasnt allergic to it as all her last procedures used the exact same medicine and in higher doses for a longer time.   But this time it killed her. And I cant figure out why. They explained that this happened very rarely. And online research says the same. They are a busy vet and said this happens to them once a year but rarely twice.   But what I cant find is an explaination. Why would a low dose of propofol cause lungs to simply stop? The only explaination I find online are all \"veterinary negligence\" which is possible. But in the years I went there when I heard  OR machines going both vets were always back there, the same as this time. Assuming it wasnt negligence on their part,  what could have caused it? Shock? I literally can find anything on it. Like no one studies the \"unknown\" anesthetic deaths or something but that cant be true.   The more I think about it the more I feel like my dog was showing yellow flags that she was in a cognitive decline. Maybe she wasnt going to die right away, but she was slowly on her way. And this procedure at this moment pushed her over the edge and she died. And whatever caused it wasnt picked up by bloodwork tests or x rays.   The vets arent bad people. Its possible they fucked up. But they seemed to be in just as much shock as I was. Because theyve done this hundreds of times before and this is the first sudden death in a while. They even paid for her funeral and cremation.   I always figured she would get some acute disease like kidney failure and I would have time to  process her impending death and hold her while I put her down. She died at around 11:45 this morning. Thry told me at 12:13pm. I brought her ashes home at 3:00pm. And now her urn is sitting on a shelf in front of me.   I had a dog exactly 12 hours ago. And now I dont.  &#x200B;", "c_root_id_A": "e7n94pr", "c_root_id_B": "e7n4sy4", "created_at_utc_A": 1539363718, "created_at_utc_B": 1539360050, "score_A": 20, "score_B": -53, "human_ref_A": "I am so sorry for your loss. It sounds like you are very aware that with any amount or length of anesthesia there are risks. The biggest risk with propofol is apnea (stopping breathing). In most cases with healthy animals, their breathing slows down after the propofol is administered but not so much that they are in danger of dying, and after a breathing tube is placed and they are put on the anesthetic gas, they can be manually ventilated and their breathing becomes more stable. In the case of a senior dog with possible underlying conditions, it\u2019s possible that the decreased ventilation caused by the propofol was just too much for your dog to handle. As well, \u201csmushed face\u201d dogs have more difficulty breathing due to their anatomy. So it\u2019s also possible that the propofol caused hypoventilation or apnea and due to the anatomy of the dog combined with her age it was just too much for her. Regardless, it is a terrible thing to go through as an owner and please do not blame yourself, it is not your fault at all. Take care\u2764\ufe0f", "human_ref_B": "What is your question?", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 3668.0, "score_ratio": -0.3773584906, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "9nkmjn", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.93, "history": "My dog suddenly during a routine procedure. Today my dog died.   She was a 13(or so) old Pekingese. I took her in for her second round of vaccinations and to discuss potential dental cleaning as her breath was horrid.   Backstory:   I adopted her nearly 5 years ago. A dental expert estimated her age at about 5-7. She had horrid teeth. He removed 18 during a 2 hr surgery in Spring 2014. Even though I tried to brush them as best I could (she hated it) little by little tartar returned. In Nov 2016 she needed an emergency surgery for a bladder obstruction. Her bloodwork showed less than ideal liver numbers but she survived and had her teeth done again.   Then in Nov 2017 I noticed her sleeping alot more. I noticed her eye was a little red. I took her for a senior check up and the doctor found a glaucoma. I tried treating it but she lost the eye in January 2018. Lost the second in March 2018. In February I had a eye puncture done to try and save her second eye but it failed so it was removed.   With each of these surgeries I thought my dog was gonna die. The eye removals and bladder stones were emergencies and yet she lived.   After her eyes were gone shr was unbothered. Lived her dog life. Didnt like walkig outside that much so I pushed her in a dog stroller. She was still eating etc. She was never \"active\" or playful. Just my dog.   Jump to the present:   Over the last few weeks Ive had a random (unexplained) anxiety about my dog dying. Like when I got home the first thing Id do was check that she was alive(?). She was 85% the same dog. But I did notice a few things:   1. She was breathing more often through her mouth while asleep. She never did this but she is a smush faced dog so....   2. She was panting indoors randomly. I attributed it to overheating (due to her long coat during summer) but it ws rare so I thought nothing much of it.   2. She had a period of incontinence. She was peeing in her sleep and while standing (without squatting) without realizing it. And this is a dog who HATES her own urine. The vet did a bladder check and it was clear. Then for the next 6 weeks the incontinence stopped and she started getting up to use her in house pee pads again.   3. About 4 weeks ago she started eating less. Usually she eats twice a day. But she was always picky (and blind) so I figured she was just not aware of the time. I bought her some cheaper (more fragrant) dog food and mixed it with water. She ate more at first. But then started eating once a day. Then eating 90% of the food a coming back for the rest hours later. 3 weeks ago she hadnt eating for like 36 hrs so I was worried. So I gave her some plain yogurt with low fat and water mixed in. She ate it. This is when I thought her teeth might be the reason. But again she simple returned to eating semi regularly. Though her love of table food waned. (Attributed to a sore mouth).   Jump to today:   I took her to the vet this morning. Discussed her teeth with the vet. I wanted to know the state of her mouth. And asked if it would be better to remove her leftover 22 teeth rather than putting her under again next year when she was even older.   He said he needed an xray and inspection of the mouth. To get that he would have to put her under for a short time and he would need bloodwork and a heart and lung xray.   So I agreed.   Bloodwork came out mostly normal. Her inflammation numbers were up. But slightly above average.(likely cause of her mouth). Her anemic levels were low (slightly below average). All her number were normal or in 1-3 points of normal.   This vet went through the same process for each surgery and was confident it was fine to proceed and I agreed. I handed over my dog and waited outside.   Time passed. Other people were waiting. Both vets were in the OR with my dog. I could hear a machine beeping. But I remained calm because Ive heard that sound in surgeries before. 35 mins passed. I was getting a little worried. But figured they were working on another dog and mine was up next or got delayed and procedure started much later after they took her back.   Then they called me in the exam room. I swear I was about to get my dog handed to me. And they asked me to come to the back.   She was lying there with tubes in her mouth. Dead.   They explained this:   They administered a low level of propofol and when the medicine was pushed her lungs simply stopped pumping. They said this can happen in certain situations for a few seconds with dogs but the lungs will restart pumping. Hers didnt. So they pushed medicine to reactivate the heart. But it didnt work. So they tried for like 25 minutes to revive her and failed. She passed away and they never even got to the xray and exam.   What the fuck?!?   I couldnt believe it. She was old. But she her major organs were all in good health. She wasnt allergic to it as all her last procedures used the exact same medicine and in higher doses for a longer time.   But this time it killed her. And I cant figure out why. They explained that this happened very rarely. And online research says the same. They are a busy vet and said this happens to them once a year but rarely twice.   But what I cant find is an explaination. Why would a low dose of propofol cause lungs to simply stop? The only explaination I find online are all \"veterinary negligence\" which is possible. But in the years I went there when I heard  OR machines going both vets were always back there, the same as this time. Assuming it wasnt negligence on their part,  what could have caused it? Shock? I literally can find anything on it. Like no one studies the \"unknown\" anesthetic deaths or something but that cant be true.   The more I think about it the more I feel like my dog was showing yellow flags that she was in a cognitive decline. Maybe she wasnt going to die right away, but she was slowly on her way. And this procedure at this moment pushed her over the edge and she died. And whatever caused it wasnt picked up by bloodwork tests or x rays.   The vets arent bad people. Its possible they fucked up. But they seemed to be in just as much shock as I was. Because theyve done this hundreds of times before and this is the first sudden death in a while. They even paid for her funeral and cremation.   I always figured she would get some acute disease like kidney failure and I would have time to  process her impending death and hold her while I put her down. She died at around 11:45 this morning. Thry told me at 12:13pm. I brought her ashes home at 3:00pm. And now her urn is sitting on a shelf in front of me.   I had a dog exactly 12 hours ago. And now I dont.  &#x200B;", "c_root_id_A": "e7ncv9v", "c_root_id_B": "e7n43yu", "created_at_utc_A": 1539366840, "created_at_utc_B": 1539359456, "score_A": 11, "score_B": 6, "human_ref_A": "Im sorry that happened. It sounds like your vets were very thorough with the pre op BW and intent to xray. I\u2019m sure they are beating themselves up as well. The only way to truly be sure of the cause of death is a necropsy, however there are some conditions that wont show on that. Speculation is pointless as it could have been a plethora of factors- old age, underlying disease(s), acute onset of illness, blood clots, etc. Losing a pet is awful, but its even worse when its unexpected. Take some time to heal. Im sure it is still traumatic.", "human_ref_B": "I am sorry for your loss.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 7384.0, "score_ratio": 1.8333333333, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "9nkmjn", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.93, "history": "My dog suddenly during a routine procedure. Today my dog died.   She was a 13(or so) old Pekingese. I took her in for her second round of vaccinations and to discuss potential dental cleaning as her breath was horrid.   Backstory:   I adopted her nearly 5 years ago. A dental expert estimated her age at about 5-7. She had horrid teeth. He removed 18 during a 2 hr surgery in Spring 2014. Even though I tried to brush them as best I could (she hated it) little by little tartar returned. In Nov 2016 she needed an emergency surgery for a bladder obstruction. Her bloodwork showed less than ideal liver numbers but she survived and had her teeth done again.   Then in Nov 2017 I noticed her sleeping alot more. I noticed her eye was a little red. I took her for a senior check up and the doctor found a glaucoma. I tried treating it but she lost the eye in January 2018. Lost the second in March 2018. In February I had a eye puncture done to try and save her second eye but it failed so it was removed.   With each of these surgeries I thought my dog was gonna die. The eye removals and bladder stones were emergencies and yet she lived.   After her eyes were gone shr was unbothered. Lived her dog life. Didnt like walkig outside that much so I pushed her in a dog stroller. She was still eating etc. She was never \"active\" or playful. Just my dog.   Jump to the present:   Over the last few weeks Ive had a random (unexplained) anxiety about my dog dying. Like when I got home the first thing Id do was check that she was alive(?). She was 85% the same dog. But I did notice a few things:   1. She was breathing more often through her mouth while asleep. She never did this but she is a smush faced dog so....   2. She was panting indoors randomly. I attributed it to overheating (due to her long coat during summer) but it ws rare so I thought nothing much of it.   2. She had a period of incontinence. She was peeing in her sleep and while standing (without squatting) without realizing it. And this is a dog who HATES her own urine. The vet did a bladder check and it was clear. Then for the next 6 weeks the incontinence stopped and she started getting up to use her in house pee pads again.   3. About 4 weeks ago she started eating less. Usually she eats twice a day. But she was always picky (and blind) so I figured she was just not aware of the time. I bought her some cheaper (more fragrant) dog food and mixed it with water. She ate more at first. But then started eating once a day. Then eating 90% of the food a coming back for the rest hours later. 3 weeks ago she hadnt eating for like 36 hrs so I was worried. So I gave her some plain yogurt with low fat and water mixed in. She ate it. This is when I thought her teeth might be the reason. But again she simple returned to eating semi regularly. Though her love of table food waned. (Attributed to a sore mouth).   Jump to today:   I took her to the vet this morning. Discussed her teeth with the vet. I wanted to know the state of her mouth. And asked if it would be better to remove her leftover 22 teeth rather than putting her under again next year when she was even older.   He said he needed an xray and inspection of the mouth. To get that he would have to put her under for a short time and he would need bloodwork and a heart and lung xray.   So I agreed.   Bloodwork came out mostly normal. Her inflammation numbers were up. But slightly above average.(likely cause of her mouth). Her anemic levels were low (slightly below average). All her number were normal or in 1-3 points of normal.   This vet went through the same process for each surgery and was confident it was fine to proceed and I agreed. I handed over my dog and waited outside.   Time passed. Other people were waiting. Both vets were in the OR with my dog. I could hear a machine beeping. But I remained calm because Ive heard that sound in surgeries before. 35 mins passed. I was getting a little worried. But figured they were working on another dog and mine was up next or got delayed and procedure started much later after they took her back.   Then they called me in the exam room. I swear I was about to get my dog handed to me. And they asked me to come to the back.   She was lying there with tubes in her mouth. Dead.   They explained this:   They administered a low level of propofol and when the medicine was pushed her lungs simply stopped pumping. They said this can happen in certain situations for a few seconds with dogs but the lungs will restart pumping. Hers didnt. So they pushed medicine to reactivate the heart. But it didnt work. So they tried for like 25 minutes to revive her and failed. She passed away and they never even got to the xray and exam.   What the fuck?!?   I couldnt believe it. She was old. But she her major organs were all in good health. She wasnt allergic to it as all her last procedures used the exact same medicine and in higher doses for a longer time.   But this time it killed her. And I cant figure out why. They explained that this happened very rarely. And online research says the same. They are a busy vet and said this happens to them once a year but rarely twice.   But what I cant find is an explaination. Why would a low dose of propofol cause lungs to simply stop? The only explaination I find online are all \"veterinary negligence\" which is possible. But in the years I went there when I heard  OR machines going both vets were always back there, the same as this time. Assuming it wasnt negligence on their part,  what could have caused it? Shock? I literally can find anything on it. Like no one studies the \"unknown\" anesthetic deaths or something but that cant be true.   The more I think about it the more I feel like my dog was showing yellow flags that she was in a cognitive decline. Maybe she wasnt going to die right away, but she was slowly on her way. And this procedure at this moment pushed her over the edge and she died. And whatever caused it wasnt picked up by bloodwork tests or x rays.   The vets arent bad people. Its possible they fucked up. But they seemed to be in just as much shock as I was. Because theyve done this hundreds of times before and this is the first sudden death in a while. They even paid for her funeral and cremation.   I always figured she would get some acute disease like kidney failure and I would have time to  process her impending death and hold her while I put her down. She died at around 11:45 this morning. Thry told me at 12:13pm. I brought her ashes home at 3:00pm. And now her urn is sitting on a shelf in front of me.   I had a dog exactly 12 hours ago. And now I dont.  &#x200B;", "c_root_id_A": "e7mxhm3", "c_root_id_B": "e7ncv9v", "created_at_utc_A": 1539353674, "created_at_utc_B": 1539366840, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 11, "human_ref_A": "Your post **has not** been removed. This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Im sorry that happened. It sounds like your vets were very thorough with the pre op BW and intent to xray. I\u2019m sure they are beating themselves up as well. The only way to truly be sure of the cause of death is a necropsy, however there are some conditions that wont show on that. Speculation is pointless as it could have been a plethora of factors- old age, underlying disease(s), acute onset of illness, blood clots, etc. Losing a pet is awful, but its even worse when its unexpected. Take some time to heal. Im sure it is still traumatic.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 13166.0, "score_ratio": 11.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "9nkmjn", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.93, "history": "My dog suddenly during a routine procedure. Today my dog died.   She was a 13(or so) old Pekingese. I took her in for her second round of vaccinations and to discuss potential dental cleaning as her breath was horrid.   Backstory:   I adopted her nearly 5 years ago. A dental expert estimated her age at about 5-7. She had horrid teeth. He removed 18 during a 2 hr surgery in Spring 2014. Even though I tried to brush them as best I could (she hated it) little by little tartar returned. In Nov 2016 she needed an emergency surgery for a bladder obstruction. Her bloodwork showed less than ideal liver numbers but she survived and had her teeth done again.   Then in Nov 2017 I noticed her sleeping alot more. I noticed her eye was a little red. I took her for a senior check up and the doctor found a glaucoma. I tried treating it but she lost the eye in January 2018. Lost the second in March 2018. In February I had a eye puncture done to try and save her second eye but it failed so it was removed.   With each of these surgeries I thought my dog was gonna die. The eye removals and bladder stones were emergencies and yet she lived.   After her eyes were gone shr was unbothered. Lived her dog life. Didnt like walkig outside that much so I pushed her in a dog stroller. She was still eating etc. She was never \"active\" or playful. Just my dog.   Jump to the present:   Over the last few weeks Ive had a random (unexplained) anxiety about my dog dying. Like when I got home the first thing Id do was check that she was alive(?). She was 85% the same dog. But I did notice a few things:   1. She was breathing more often through her mouth while asleep. She never did this but she is a smush faced dog so....   2. She was panting indoors randomly. I attributed it to overheating (due to her long coat during summer) but it ws rare so I thought nothing much of it.   2. She had a period of incontinence. She was peeing in her sleep and while standing (without squatting) without realizing it. And this is a dog who HATES her own urine. The vet did a bladder check and it was clear. Then for the next 6 weeks the incontinence stopped and she started getting up to use her in house pee pads again.   3. About 4 weeks ago she started eating less. Usually she eats twice a day. But she was always picky (and blind) so I figured she was just not aware of the time. I bought her some cheaper (more fragrant) dog food and mixed it with water. She ate more at first. But then started eating once a day. Then eating 90% of the food a coming back for the rest hours later. 3 weeks ago she hadnt eating for like 36 hrs so I was worried. So I gave her some plain yogurt with low fat and water mixed in. She ate it. This is when I thought her teeth might be the reason. But again she simple returned to eating semi regularly. Though her love of table food waned. (Attributed to a sore mouth).   Jump to today:   I took her to the vet this morning. Discussed her teeth with the vet. I wanted to know the state of her mouth. And asked if it would be better to remove her leftover 22 teeth rather than putting her under again next year when she was even older.   He said he needed an xray and inspection of the mouth. To get that he would have to put her under for a short time and he would need bloodwork and a heart and lung xray.   So I agreed.   Bloodwork came out mostly normal. Her inflammation numbers were up. But slightly above average.(likely cause of her mouth). Her anemic levels were low (slightly below average). All her number were normal or in 1-3 points of normal.   This vet went through the same process for each surgery and was confident it was fine to proceed and I agreed. I handed over my dog and waited outside.   Time passed. Other people were waiting. Both vets were in the OR with my dog. I could hear a machine beeping. But I remained calm because Ive heard that sound in surgeries before. 35 mins passed. I was getting a little worried. But figured they were working on another dog and mine was up next or got delayed and procedure started much later after they took her back.   Then they called me in the exam room. I swear I was about to get my dog handed to me. And they asked me to come to the back.   She was lying there with tubes in her mouth. Dead.   They explained this:   They administered a low level of propofol and when the medicine was pushed her lungs simply stopped pumping. They said this can happen in certain situations for a few seconds with dogs but the lungs will restart pumping. Hers didnt. So they pushed medicine to reactivate the heart. But it didnt work. So they tried for like 25 minutes to revive her and failed. She passed away and they never even got to the xray and exam.   What the fuck?!?   I couldnt believe it. She was old. But she her major organs were all in good health. She wasnt allergic to it as all her last procedures used the exact same medicine and in higher doses for a longer time.   But this time it killed her. And I cant figure out why. They explained that this happened very rarely. And online research says the same. They are a busy vet and said this happens to them once a year but rarely twice.   But what I cant find is an explaination. Why would a low dose of propofol cause lungs to simply stop? The only explaination I find online are all \"veterinary negligence\" which is possible. But in the years I went there when I heard  OR machines going both vets were always back there, the same as this time. Assuming it wasnt negligence on their part,  what could have caused it? Shock? I literally can find anything on it. Like no one studies the \"unknown\" anesthetic deaths or something but that cant be true.   The more I think about it the more I feel like my dog was showing yellow flags that she was in a cognitive decline. Maybe she wasnt going to die right away, but she was slowly on her way. And this procedure at this moment pushed her over the edge and she died. And whatever caused it wasnt picked up by bloodwork tests or x rays.   The vets arent bad people. Its possible they fucked up. But they seemed to be in just as much shock as I was. Because theyve done this hundreds of times before and this is the first sudden death in a while. They even paid for her funeral and cremation.   I always figured she would get some acute disease like kidney failure and I would have time to  process her impending death and hold her while I put her down. She died at around 11:45 this morning. Thry told me at 12:13pm. I brought her ashes home at 3:00pm. And now her urn is sitting on a shelf in front of me.   I had a dog exactly 12 hours ago. And now I dont.  &#x200B;", "c_root_id_A": "e7n4sy4", "c_root_id_B": "e7ncv9v", "created_at_utc_A": 1539360050, "created_at_utc_B": 1539366840, "score_A": -53, "score_B": 11, "human_ref_A": "What is your question?", "human_ref_B": "Im sorry that happened. It sounds like your vets were very thorough with the pre op BW and intent to xray. I\u2019m sure they are beating themselves up as well. The only way to truly be sure of the cause of death is a necropsy, however there are some conditions that wont show on that. Speculation is pointless as it could have been a plethora of factors- old age, underlying disease(s), acute onset of illness, blood clots, etc. Losing a pet is awful, but its even worse when its unexpected. Take some time to heal. Im sure it is still traumatic.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 6790.0, "score_ratio": -0.2075471698, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "9nkmjn", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.93, "history": "My dog suddenly during a routine procedure. Today my dog died.   She was a 13(or so) old Pekingese. I took her in for her second round of vaccinations and to discuss potential dental cleaning as her breath was horrid.   Backstory:   I adopted her nearly 5 years ago. A dental expert estimated her age at about 5-7. She had horrid teeth. He removed 18 during a 2 hr surgery in Spring 2014. Even though I tried to brush them as best I could (she hated it) little by little tartar returned. In Nov 2016 she needed an emergency surgery for a bladder obstruction. Her bloodwork showed less than ideal liver numbers but she survived and had her teeth done again.   Then in Nov 2017 I noticed her sleeping alot more. I noticed her eye was a little red. I took her for a senior check up and the doctor found a glaucoma. I tried treating it but she lost the eye in January 2018. Lost the second in March 2018. In February I had a eye puncture done to try and save her second eye but it failed so it was removed.   With each of these surgeries I thought my dog was gonna die. The eye removals and bladder stones were emergencies and yet she lived.   After her eyes were gone shr was unbothered. Lived her dog life. Didnt like walkig outside that much so I pushed her in a dog stroller. She was still eating etc. She was never \"active\" or playful. Just my dog.   Jump to the present:   Over the last few weeks Ive had a random (unexplained) anxiety about my dog dying. Like when I got home the first thing Id do was check that she was alive(?). She was 85% the same dog. But I did notice a few things:   1. She was breathing more often through her mouth while asleep. She never did this but she is a smush faced dog so....   2. She was panting indoors randomly. I attributed it to overheating (due to her long coat during summer) but it ws rare so I thought nothing much of it.   2. She had a period of incontinence. She was peeing in her sleep and while standing (without squatting) without realizing it. And this is a dog who HATES her own urine. The vet did a bladder check and it was clear. Then for the next 6 weeks the incontinence stopped and she started getting up to use her in house pee pads again.   3. About 4 weeks ago she started eating less. Usually she eats twice a day. But she was always picky (and blind) so I figured she was just not aware of the time. I bought her some cheaper (more fragrant) dog food and mixed it with water. She ate more at first. But then started eating once a day. Then eating 90% of the food a coming back for the rest hours later. 3 weeks ago she hadnt eating for like 36 hrs so I was worried. So I gave her some plain yogurt with low fat and water mixed in. She ate it. This is when I thought her teeth might be the reason. But again she simple returned to eating semi regularly. Though her love of table food waned. (Attributed to a sore mouth).   Jump to today:   I took her to the vet this morning. Discussed her teeth with the vet. I wanted to know the state of her mouth. And asked if it would be better to remove her leftover 22 teeth rather than putting her under again next year when she was even older.   He said he needed an xray and inspection of the mouth. To get that he would have to put her under for a short time and he would need bloodwork and a heart and lung xray.   So I agreed.   Bloodwork came out mostly normal. Her inflammation numbers were up. But slightly above average.(likely cause of her mouth). Her anemic levels were low (slightly below average). All her number were normal or in 1-3 points of normal.   This vet went through the same process for each surgery and was confident it was fine to proceed and I agreed. I handed over my dog and waited outside.   Time passed. Other people were waiting. Both vets were in the OR with my dog. I could hear a machine beeping. But I remained calm because Ive heard that sound in surgeries before. 35 mins passed. I was getting a little worried. But figured they were working on another dog and mine was up next or got delayed and procedure started much later after they took her back.   Then they called me in the exam room. I swear I was about to get my dog handed to me. And they asked me to come to the back.   She was lying there with tubes in her mouth. Dead.   They explained this:   They administered a low level of propofol and when the medicine was pushed her lungs simply stopped pumping. They said this can happen in certain situations for a few seconds with dogs but the lungs will restart pumping. Hers didnt. So they pushed medicine to reactivate the heart. But it didnt work. So they tried for like 25 minutes to revive her and failed. She passed away and they never even got to the xray and exam.   What the fuck?!?   I couldnt believe it. She was old. But she her major organs were all in good health. She wasnt allergic to it as all her last procedures used the exact same medicine and in higher doses for a longer time.   But this time it killed her. And I cant figure out why. They explained that this happened very rarely. And online research says the same. They are a busy vet and said this happens to them once a year but rarely twice.   But what I cant find is an explaination. Why would a low dose of propofol cause lungs to simply stop? The only explaination I find online are all \"veterinary negligence\" which is possible. But in the years I went there when I heard  OR machines going both vets were always back there, the same as this time. Assuming it wasnt negligence on their part,  what could have caused it? Shock? I literally can find anything on it. Like no one studies the \"unknown\" anesthetic deaths or something but that cant be true.   The more I think about it the more I feel like my dog was showing yellow flags that she was in a cognitive decline. Maybe she wasnt going to die right away, but she was slowly on her way. And this procedure at this moment pushed her over the edge and she died. And whatever caused it wasnt picked up by bloodwork tests or x rays.   The vets arent bad people. Its possible they fucked up. But they seemed to be in just as much shock as I was. Because theyve done this hundreds of times before and this is the first sudden death in a while. They even paid for her funeral and cremation.   I always figured she would get some acute disease like kidney failure and I would have time to  process her impending death and hold her while I put her down. She died at around 11:45 this morning. Thry told me at 12:13pm. I brought her ashes home at 3:00pm. And now her urn is sitting on a shelf in front of me.   I had a dog exactly 12 hours ago. And now I dont.  &#x200B;", "c_root_id_A": "e7n43yu", "c_root_id_B": "e7mxhm3", "created_at_utc_A": 1539359456, "created_at_utc_B": 1539353674, "score_A": 6, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I am sorry for your loss.", "human_ref_B": "Your post **has not** been removed. This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 5782.0, "score_ratio": 6.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "9nkmjn", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.93, "history": "My dog suddenly during a routine procedure. Today my dog died.   She was a 13(or so) old Pekingese. I took her in for her second round of vaccinations and to discuss potential dental cleaning as her breath was horrid.   Backstory:   I adopted her nearly 5 years ago. A dental expert estimated her age at about 5-7. She had horrid teeth. He removed 18 during a 2 hr surgery in Spring 2014. Even though I tried to brush them as best I could (she hated it) little by little tartar returned. In Nov 2016 she needed an emergency surgery for a bladder obstruction. Her bloodwork showed less than ideal liver numbers but she survived and had her teeth done again.   Then in Nov 2017 I noticed her sleeping alot more. I noticed her eye was a little red. I took her for a senior check up and the doctor found a glaucoma. I tried treating it but she lost the eye in January 2018. Lost the second in March 2018. In February I had a eye puncture done to try and save her second eye but it failed so it was removed.   With each of these surgeries I thought my dog was gonna die. The eye removals and bladder stones were emergencies and yet she lived.   After her eyes were gone shr was unbothered. Lived her dog life. Didnt like walkig outside that much so I pushed her in a dog stroller. She was still eating etc. She was never \"active\" or playful. Just my dog.   Jump to the present:   Over the last few weeks Ive had a random (unexplained) anxiety about my dog dying. Like when I got home the first thing Id do was check that she was alive(?). She was 85% the same dog. But I did notice a few things:   1. She was breathing more often through her mouth while asleep. She never did this but she is a smush faced dog so....   2. She was panting indoors randomly. I attributed it to overheating (due to her long coat during summer) but it ws rare so I thought nothing much of it.   2. She had a period of incontinence. She was peeing in her sleep and while standing (without squatting) without realizing it. And this is a dog who HATES her own urine. The vet did a bladder check and it was clear. Then for the next 6 weeks the incontinence stopped and she started getting up to use her in house pee pads again.   3. About 4 weeks ago she started eating less. Usually she eats twice a day. But she was always picky (and blind) so I figured she was just not aware of the time. I bought her some cheaper (more fragrant) dog food and mixed it with water. She ate more at first. But then started eating once a day. Then eating 90% of the food a coming back for the rest hours later. 3 weeks ago she hadnt eating for like 36 hrs so I was worried. So I gave her some plain yogurt with low fat and water mixed in. She ate it. This is when I thought her teeth might be the reason. But again she simple returned to eating semi regularly. Though her love of table food waned. (Attributed to a sore mouth).   Jump to today:   I took her to the vet this morning. Discussed her teeth with the vet. I wanted to know the state of her mouth. And asked if it would be better to remove her leftover 22 teeth rather than putting her under again next year when she was even older.   He said he needed an xray and inspection of the mouth. To get that he would have to put her under for a short time and he would need bloodwork and a heart and lung xray.   So I agreed.   Bloodwork came out mostly normal. Her inflammation numbers were up. But slightly above average.(likely cause of her mouth). Her anemic levels were low (slightly below average). All her number were normal or in 1-3 points of normal.   This vet went through the same process for each surgery and was confident it was fine to proceed and I agreed. I handed over my dog and waited outside.   Time passed. Other people were waiting. Both vets were in the OR with my dog. I could hear a machine beeping. But I remained calm because Ive heard that sound in surgeries before. 35 mins passed. I was getting a little worried. But figured they were working on another dog and mine was up next or got delayed and procedure started much later after they took her back.   Then they called me in the exam room. I swear I was about to get my dog handed to me. And they asked me to come to the back.   She was lying there with tubes in her mouth. Dead.   They explained this:   They administered a low level of propofol and when the medicine was pushed her lungs simply stopped pumping. They said this can happen in certain situations for a few seconds with dogs but the lungs will restart pumping. Hers didnt. So they pushed medicine to reactivate the heart. But it didnt work. So they tried for like 25 minutes to revive her and failed. She passed away and they never even got to the xray and exam.   What the fuck?!?   I couldnt believe it. She was old. But she her major organs were all in good health. She wasnt allergic to it as all her last procedures used the exact same medicine and in higher doses for a longer time.   But this time it killed her. And I cant figure out why. They explained that this happened very rarely. And online research says the same. They are a busy vet and said this happens to them once a year but rarely twice.   But what I cant find is an explaination. Why would a low dose of propofol cause lungs to simply stop? The only explaination I find online are all \"veterinary negligence\" which is possible. But in the years I went there when I heard  OR machines going both vets were always back there, the same as this time. Assuming it wasnt negligence on their part,  what could have caused it? Shock? I literally can find anything on it. Like no one studies the \"unknown\" anesthetic deaths or something but that cant be true.   The more I think about it the more I feel like my dog was showing yellow flags that she was in a cognitive decline. Maybe she wasnt going to die right away, but she was slowly on her way. And this procedure at this moment pushed her over the edge and she died. And whatever caused it wasnt picked up by bloodwork tests or x rays.   The vets arent bad people. Its possible they fucked up. But they seemed to be in just as much shock as I was. Because theyve done this hundreds of times before and this is the first sudden death in a while. They even paid for her funeral and cremation.   I always figured she would get some acute disease like kidney failure and I would have time to  process her impending death and hold her while I put her down. She died at around 11:45 this morning. Thry told me at 12:13pm. I brought her ashes home at 3:00pm. And now her urn is sitting on a shelf in front of me.   I had a dog exactly 12 hours ago. And now I dont.  &#x200B;", "c_root_id_A": "e7nidaj", "c_root_id_B": "e7n4sy4", "created_at_utc_A": 1539371430, "created_at_utc_B": 1539360050, "score_A": 1, "score_B": -53, "human_ref_A": "I'm locking this thread due to excessive off-topic commenting. OP, if you're looking for general emotional support, please refer to /r/petloss.", "human_ref_B": "What is your question?", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 11380.0, "score_ratio": -0.0188679245, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "fhn0yo", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "My cat has matted fur, but is too old to be put under to shave her. What should I do? My cat is probably 13 years old, she has been overweight but lost a lot of weight once I changed her diet. When she was overweight I probably took her to the vet 2 or 3 times to be shaved, because her chub made it so she couldn\u2019t clean her self, she had to be knocked out both times because she is a grumpy girl and can\u2019t handle stress like that. I\u2019ll admit I haven\u2019t been keeping up on brushing her, but her hair wasn\u2019t matting for like 2 years since she lost some weight. Now I don\u2019t know what to do, I definitely can\u2019t brush them out, I can\u2019t shave her myself, and I think she\u2019s to old to be put under to be shaved, it makes me so sad what should I do!? Help please!", "c_root_id_A": "fkc72pp", "c_root_id_B": "fkc9cig", "created_at_utc_A": 1584047068, "created_at_utc_B": 1584048377, "score_A": 29, "score_B": 131, "human_ref_A": "Why do you think she can\u2019t have drugs? Did the vet decide that? Is she unwell?", "human_ref_B": "Being old doesn't mean you can't have sedation or anesthesia. All being old means is that you are more likely to have other conditions that mean you can't have certain medications or anesthesia. Take her to the vet and let them decide what she can and can't have!", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 1309.0, "score_ratio": 4.5172413793, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "fhn0yo", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "My cat has matted fur, but is too old to be put under to shave her. What should I do? My cat is probably 13 years old, she has been overweight but lost a lot of weight once I changed her diet. When she was overweight I probably took her to the vet 2 or 3 times to be shaved, because her chub made it so she couldn\u2019t clean her self, she had to be knocked out both times because she is a grumpy girl and can\u2019t handle stress like that. I\u2019ll admit I haven\u2019t been keeping up on brushing her, but her hair wasn\u2019t matting for like 2 years since she lost some weight. Now I don\u2019t know what to do, I definitely can\u2019t brush them out, I can\u2019t shave her myself, and I think she\u2019s to old to be put under to be shaved, it makes me so sad what should I do!? Help please!", "c_root_id_A": "fkc9cig", "c_root_id_B": "fkc3gzo", "created_at_utc_A": 1584048377, "created_at_utc_B": 1584045050, "score_A": 131, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Being old doesn't mean you can't have sedation or anesthesia. All being old means is that you are more likely to have other conditions that mean you can't have certain medications or anesthesia. Take her to the vet and let them decide what she can and can't have!", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 3327.0, "score_ratio": 131.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "fhn0yo", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "My cat has matted fur, but is too old to be put under to shave her. What should I do? My cat is probably 13 years old, she has been overweight but lost a lot of weight once I changed her diet. When she was overweight I probably took her to the vet 2 or 3 times to be shaved, because her chub made it so she couldn\u2019t clean her self, she had to be knocked out both times because she is a grumpy girl and can\u2019t handle stress like that. I\u2019ll admit I haven\u2019t been keeping up on brushing her, but her hair wasn\u2019t matting for like 2 years since she lost some weight. Now I don\u2019t know what to do, I definitely can\u2019t brush them out, I can\u2019t shave her myself, and I think she\u2019s to old to be put under to be shaved, it makes me so sad what should I do!? Help please!", "c_root_id_A": "fkc3gzo", "c_root_id_B": "fkc72pp", "created_at_utc_A": 1584045050, "created_at_utc_B": 1584047068, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 29, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Why do you think she can\u2019t have drugs? Did the vet decide that? Is she unwell?", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 2018.0, "score_ratio": 29.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "fhn0yo", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "My cat has matted fur, but is too old to be put under to shave her. What should I do? My cat is probably 13 years old, she has been overweight but lost a lot of weight once I changed her diet. When she was overweight I probably took her to the vet 2 or 3 times to be shaved, because her chub made it so she couldn\u2019t clean her self, she had to be knocked out both times because she is a grumpy girl and can\u2019t handle stress like that. I\u2019ll admit I haven\u2019t been keeping up on brushing her, but her hair wasn\u2019t matting for like 2 years since she lost some weight. Now I don\u2019t know what to do, I definitely can\u2019t brush them out, I can\u2019t shave her myself, and I think she\u2019s to old to be put under to be shaved, it makes me so sad what should I do!? Help please!", "c_root_id_A": "fkcjhbm", "c_root_id_B": "fkcg496", "created_at_utc_A": 1584054395, "created_at_utc_B": 1584052358, "score_A": 14, "score_B": 8, "human_ref_A": "13 is not terribly old for a cat. Unless your vet says so, she is not too old to be sedated to be shaved.", "human_ref_B": "This can be used as an bonding experience for you both aswell but I would recommend (will sound strange ) finding a sensitive leave in conditioner or de-tangling spay and put one spritz on your cats fur and get a cat grooming comb designed for cats with long hair and do little bits at a time and this should help with mats and the tangles", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 2037.0, "score_ratio": 1.75, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "fhn0yo", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "My cat has matted fur, but is too old to be put under to shave her. What should I do? My cat is probably 13 years old, she has been overweight but lost a lot of weight once I changed her diet. When she was overweight I probably took her to the vet 2 or 3 times to be shaved, because her chub made it so she couldn\u2019t clean her self, she had to be knocked out both times because she is a grumpy girl and can\u2019t handle stress like that. I\u2019ll admit I haven\u2019t been keeping up on brushing her, but her hair wasn\u2019t matting for like 2 years since she lost some weight. Now I don\u2019t know what to do, I definitely can\u2019t brush them out, I can\u2019t shave her myself, and I think she\u2019s to old to be put under to be shaved, it makes me so sad what should I do!? Help please!", "c_root_id_A": "fkcjhbm", "c_root_id_B": "fkc3gzo", "created_at_utc_A": 1584054395, "created_at_utc_B": 1584045050, "score_A": 14, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "13 is not terribly old for a cat. Unless your vet says so, she is not too old to be sedated to be shaved.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 9345.0, "score_ratio": 14.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "fhn0yo", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "My cat has matted fur, but is too old to be put under to shave her. What should I do? My cat is probably 13 years old, she has been overweight but lost a lot of weight once I changed her diet. When she was overweight I probably took her to the vet 2 or 3 times to be shaved, because her chub made it so she couldn\u2019t clean her self, she had to be knocked out both times because she is a grumpy girl and can\u2019t handle stress like that. I\u2019ll admit I haven\u2019t been keeping up on brushing her, but her hair wasn\u2019t matting for like 2 years since she lost some weight. Now I don\u2019t know what to do, I definitely can\u2019t brush them out, I can\u2019t shave her myself, and I think she\u2019s to old to be put under to be shaved, it makes me so sad what should I do!? Help please!", "c_root_id_A": "fkc3gzo", "c_root_id_B": "fkcg496", "created_at_utc_A": 1584045050, "created_at_utc_B": 1584052358, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 8, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "This can be used as an bonding experience for you both aswell but I would recommend (will sound strange ) finding a sensitive leave in conditioner or de-tangling spay and put one spritz on your cats fur and get a cat grooming comb designed for cats with long hair and do little bits at a time and this should help with mats and the tangles", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 7308.0, "score_ratio": 8.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "fhn0yo", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "My cat has matted fur, but is too old to be put under to shave her. What should I do? My cat is probably 13 years old, she has been overweight but lost a lot of weight once I changed her diet. When she was overweight I probably took her to the vet 2 or 3 times to be shaved, because her chub made it so she couldn\u2019t clean her self, she had to be knocked out both times because she is a grumpy girl and can\u2019t handle stress like that. I\u2019ll admit I haven\u2019t been keeping up on brushing her, but her hair wasn\u2019t matting for like 2 years since she lost some weight. Now I don\u2019t know what to do, I definitely can\u2019t brush them out, I can\u2019t shave her myself, and I think she\u2019s to old to be put under to be shaved, it makes me so sad what should I do!? Help please!", "c_root_id_A": "fkcsdof", "c_root_id_B": "fkcrhf0", "created_at_utc_A": 1584060064, "created_at_utc_B": 1584059478, "score_A": 6, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Pre-anesthetic blood work can show if her organs are healthy enough to undergo anesthesia! You should talk to your vet about it.", "human_ref_B": "Is a \"cat razor comb\" an option?", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 586.0, "score_ratio": 6.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "fhn0yo", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "My cat has matted fur, but is too old to be put under to shave her. What should I do? My cat is probably 13 years old, she has been overweight but lost a lot of weight once I changed her diet. When she was overweight I probably took her to the vet 2 or 3 times to be shaved, because her chub made it so she couldn\u2019t clean her self, she had to be knocked out both times because she is a grumpy girl and can\u2019t handle stress like that. I\u2019ll admit I haven\u2019t been keeping up on brushing her, but her hair wasn\u2019t matting for like 2 years since she lost some weight. Now I don\u2019t know what to do, I definitely can\u2019t brush them out, I can\u2019t shave her myself, and I think she\u2019s to old to be put under to be shaved, it makes me so sad what should I do!? Help please!", "c_root_id_A": "fkc3gzo", "c_root_id_B": "fkcsdof", "created_at_utc_A": 1584045050, "created_at_utc_B": 1584060064, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 6, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Pre-anesthetic blood work can show if her organs are healthy enough to undergo anesthesia! You should talk to your vet about it.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 15014.0, "score_ratio": 6.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "ijc163", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Third family cat in a row to get breast lumps, coincidence? This is the third family cat that I have noticed breast lumps on. I've lost 2 cats down this road already and I've had horrible experience with this. I am taking her to the vet tomorrow and I am hoping for the best, although I've traveled this road far too many times for this reason.  My question isn't so much about the cat, but I am asking if something in the way I care for my cats causes them to develop these? The cat was neutered a year ago and looks very healthy. It's very picky about food so it needs a different type of food every day 3 times a day, I often just buy every type available in the store and give a random one every time I feed it.  I don't know what to link it to, but I refuse to accept that I am unlucky enough to have a third cat develop these, it wasn't long ago that I lost my beautiful siamese to this horrible disease.   * **Species:** Cat * **Age:** 8 * **Sex/Neuter status:** Neutered a year ago * **Breed:** Mixed * **Body weight:** 3kg and 800g, about 8.5 pounds. * **History:** Rescued from the street as a kitten that lost its mom and almost drowned. * **Clinical signs:** Breast lumps * **Duration:** Just noticed today, probably a month or so old. * **Your general location:** Europe * **Links to test results, vet reports, X-rays etc.:** None", "c_root_id_A": "g3cilv9", "c_root_id_B": "g3cju54", "created_at_utc_A": 1598791042, "created_at_utc_B": 1598791807, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 57, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "I\u2019m so sorry for the loss of your precious kitties.  I would take this one in as well for a diagnosis and surgical consult/onco referral if desired.  https://www.vet.cornell.edu/departments-centers-and-institutes/cornell-feline-health-center/health-information/feline-health-topics/mammary-tumors   \u201cTo dramatically reduce the risk of feline mammary cancer, Dr. McEntee urges owners to have their female cats spayed before they enter their first heat cycle, as young as three to four months of age.  Indeed, one study indicated that cats spayed prior to six months of age had a 91 percent reduction in risk and those spayed prior to one year of age had an 86 percent reduction.\u201d", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 765.0, "score_ratio": 57.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "ijc163", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Third family cat in a row to get breast lumps, coincidence? This is the third family cat that I have noticed breast lumps on. I've lost 2 cats down this road already and I've had horrible experience with this. I am taking her to the vet tomorrow and I am hoping for the best, although I've traveled this road far too many times for this reason.  My question isn't so much about the cat, but I am asking if something in the way I care for my cats causes them to develop these? The cat was neutered a year ago and looks very healthy. It's very picky about food so it needs a different type of food every day 3 times a day, I often just buy every type available in the store and give a random one every time I feed it.  I don't know what to link it to, but I refuse to accept that I am unlucky enough to have a third cat develop these, it wasn't long ago that I lost my beautiful siamese to this horrible disease.   * **Species:** Cat * **Age:** 8 * **Sex/Neuter status:** Neutered a year ago * **Breed:** Mixed * **Body weight:** 3kg and 800g, about 8.5 pounds. * **History:** Rescued from the street as a kitten that lost its mom and almost drowned. * **Clinical signs:** Breast lumps * **Duration:** Just noticed today, probably a month or so old. * **Your general location:** Europe * **Links to test results, vet reports, X-rays etc.:** None", "c_root_id_A": "g3cilv9", "c_root_id_B": "g3dzu1p", "created_at_utc_A": 1598791042, "created_at_utc_B": 1598815771, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 25, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "The best way to reduce the chances of breast cancer in a cat is Spaying before their first heat cycle.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 24729.0, "score_ratio": 25.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "a6rs97", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Please help me understand the necropsy report for my dog. About two months ago, my 4.5 year old Golden Retriever Diego collapsed suddenly while playing with our other dog (they were chasing each other around some furniture, something they used to do quite often). My husband and father in law, who are both first responders, immediately started CPR and checked the airways, which were clear. We rushed Diego to the emergency vet clinic, which is a 15 minute drive from our house, while still doing CPR on him in the trunk of the SUV but he passed away on the way to the clinic.   We had a necropsy done in order to make sense of what happened, but I simply do not understand the report. I did talk to my vet about the results and she said that, while it is hard to tell, the death was likely due to dilated cardiomyopathy. I have since tried to learn more about DCM and am confused because from how I understand it, DCM is manifested by an enlarged heart, whereas Diego's heart was of normal size, at least as I ready the necropsy report. I know it won't bring him back, but I hope to get some closure by at least fully understanding the results of the necropsy and would appreciate any help.   Here's a link to the necropsy report   Some medical history:   Diego's right eye was surgically removed about a year ago because his eyeball was too small and was causing infections. Other than that, he had a small growth on his gums that was under observation by the vet and did not cause him any visible discomfort. He was a normal, active, happy dog and did not show any signs of anything being wrong even immediately before he fell over. We took him to the vet at least once a year for checkups/vaccinations and he always got the all clear. The last time he was at the vet was about 3 months prior to his death.   &#x200B;", "c_root_id_A": "ebxxf7e", "c_root_id_B": "ebxuqjb", "created_at_utc_A": 1545002067, "created_at_utc_B": 1544999871, "score_A": 102, "score_B": 23, "human_ref_A": "I'm really sorry to hear that you lost your pup.  I've read through the report and do not see any indication that DCM was present. The gross pathology (examination of the heart) indicates that the heart was of normal size. Generally, with DCM, we see dilation of at least one chamber of the heart, and quite often all 4 chambers. Nothing in the report indicates that DCM was the cause of death.  The morphological diagnoses that they provide indicate the following:  1. There was a lot of fluid in Diego's lungs and this fluid build up was acute (meaning that it happened over a very short period of time). There was a little bit of fluid in Diego's brain, but it was less fluid than what was found in the lungs. They don't know why this sudden fluid build up happened, and they looked at slides of the tissues and it couldn't help them determine a cause. 2. The tonsils had lymphoid hyperplasia, which means that they just had more lymphoid cells than normal. Lymphoid hyperplasia can sometimes indicate an infection (bacteria, virus, so on), but no signs of infection could be found. They don't know why Diego's tonsils had more white blood cells than normal.  The pathologists speculated some possible causes of death, but unfortunately there is really no way for them to prove what happened. I'll try my best to explain those possible causes here:  1. Metabolic derangements: metabolism refers to all of the processes in the body that break down food into energy. Sometimes an animal may become deficient in something that is required for normal metabolism to occur. This can cause them to not get enough energy to all the cells in the body (like the brain, for example) and it can cause sudden death in some cases. There are also some types of metabolic disorders that can be genetic, although it is much more likely that the pathologists would have seen some changes that would help with a diagnosis of a genetic metabolic disease. 2. Electrochemical disturbances: these are disturbances that can cause the cells in the heart or brain to fire their signals at the wrong times. For example, this can lead to an abnormal heart rhythm (arrhythmia) . This could also be cause by an imbalance in electrolytes, such as too much or too little sodium or potassium. 3. Hemodynamic disturbances: this refers to changes/disruptions in blood flow. We often think of blood loss as the major player in this disturbance (but we know from the report that Diego didn't seem to lose a lot of blood very rapidly), but it can be caused by many other things such as shock, thrombi (blood clots), hyperemia (excess blood being sent to an organ), and infarction (obstructed blood flow) just to name a few. Any change that happens too quickly could cause rapid death because an essential organ like the brain or lungs might suddenly not get enough oxygen. 4. Subtle, small thrombi in the brain: this would be tiny little blood clots that could block blood flow to the brain. Even with the best microscopes, you can't always see them.  Unfortunately, we don't always get an answer when we do a post-mortem exam. Again, I'm really sorry for your loss, and I hope I helped clarify a few things from the report.", "human_ref_B": "Essentially it sounds like no structural abnormalities of the heart were found on necropsy. However, things like cardiac arrhythmias can occur without causing any identifiable lesions and can result in sudden death. Often an arrhythmia will have an underlying risk factor (e.g. dogs with enlarged atria of the heart are at greater risk of developing fatal arrhythmias) but they can also occur even in otherwise normal dogs. I'm sorry for your unexpected loss. These things are never easy. It sounds like there was nothing underlying that could have been identified with screening diagnostics, so please do not feel guilty or like you should have been able to prevent this.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 2196.0, "score_ratio": 4.4347826087, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "a6rs97", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Please help me understand the necropsy report for my dog. About two months ago, my 4.5 year old Golden Retriever Diego collapsed suddenly while playing with our other dog (they were chasing each other around some furniture, something they used to do quite often). My husband and father in law, who are both first responders, immediately started CPR and checked the airways, which were clear. We rushed Diego to the emergency vet clinic, which is a 15 minute drive from our house, while still doing CPR on him in the trunk of the SUV but he passed away on the way to the clinic.   We had a necropsy done in order to make sense of what happened, but I simply do not understand the report. I did talk to my vet about the results and she said that, while it is hard to tell, the death was likely due to dilated cardiomyopathy. I have since tried to learn more about DCM and am confused because from how I understand it, DCM is manifested by an enlarged heart, whereas Diego's heart was of normal size, at least as I ready the necropsy report. I know it won't bring him back, but I hope to get some closure by at least fully understanding the results of the necropsy and would appreciate any help.   Here's a link to the necropsy report   Some medical history:   Diego's right eye was surgically removed about a year ago because his eyeball was too small and was causing infections. Other than that, he had a small growth on his gums that was under observation by the vet and did not cause him any visible discomfort. He was a normal, active, happy dog and did not show any signs of anything being wrong even immediately before he fell over. We took him to the vet at least once a year for checkups/vaccinations and he always got the all clear. The last time he was at the vet was about 3 months prior to his death.   &#x200B;", "c_root_id_A": "ebxn3nj", "c_root_id_B": "ebxxf7e", "created_at_utc_A": 1544994243, "created_at_utc_B": 1545002067, "score_A": 21, "score_B": 102, "human_ref_A": "I'm new to reddit so I hope I don't inadvertently break a rule.  I'm a retired RN and what I see in the report is that they don't know exactly why your pup died. The significant findings to me are that he had fluid/swelling  in his brain, lungs, and tonsils, but they don't know the reason for this. They throw out some ideas but basically they don't know the exact reason he had a heart attack.   I am so sorry for your loss. It's always hard when we lose them but your guy was young and his death was sudden. Take care.", "human_ref_B": "I'm really sorry to hear that you lost your pup.  I've read through the report and do not see any indication that DCM was present. The gross pathology (examination of the heart) indicates that the heart was of normal size. Generally, with DCM, we see dilation of at least one chamber of the heart, and quite often all 4 chambers. Nothing in the report indicates that DCM was the cause of death.  The morphological diagnoses that they provide indicate the following:  1. There was a lot of fluid in Diego's lungs and this fluid build up was acute (meaning that it happened over a very short period of time). There was a little bit of fluid in Diego's brain, but it was less fluid than what was found in the lungs. They don't know why this sudden fluid build up happened, and they looked at slides of the tissues and it couldn't help them determine a cause. 2. The tonsils had lymphoid hyperplasia, which means that they just had more lymphoid cells than normal. Lymphoid hyperplasia can sometimes indicate an infection (bacteria, virus, so on), but no signs of infection could be found. They don't know why Diego's tonsils had more white blood cells than normal.  The pathologists speculated some possible causes of death, but unfortunately there is really no way for them to prove what happened. I'll try my best to explain those possible causes here:  1. Metabolic derangements: metabolism refers to all of the processes in the body that break down food into energy. Sometimes an animal may become deficient in something that is required for normal metabolism to occur. This can cause them to not get enough energy to all the cells in the body (like the brain, for example) and it can cause sudden death in some cases. There are also some types of metabolic disorders that can be genetic, although it is much more likely that the pathologists would have seen some changes that would help with a diagnosis of a genetic metabolic disease. 2. Electrochemical disturbances: these are disturbances that can cause the cells in the heart or brain to fire their signals at the wrong times. For example, this can lead to an abnormal heart rhythm (arrhythmia) . This could also be cause by an imbalance in electrolytes, such as too much or too little sodium or potassium. 3. Hemodynamic disturbances: this refers to changes/disruptions in blood flow. We often think of blood loss as the major player in this disturbance (but we know from the report that Diego didn't seem to lose a lot of blood very rapidly), but it can be caused by many other things such as shock, thrombi (blood clots), hyperemia (excess blood being sent to an organ), and infarction (obstructed blood flow) just to name a few. Any change that happens too quickly could cause rapid death because an essential organ like the brain or lungs might suddenly not get enough oxygen. 4. Subtle, small thrombi in the brain: this would be tiny little blood clots that could block blood flow to the brain. Even with the best microscopes, you can't always see them.  Unfortunately, we don't always get an answer when we do a post-mortem exam. Again, I'm really sorry for your loss, and I hope I helped clarify a few things from the report.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 7824.0, "score_ratio": 4.8571428571, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "a6rs97", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Please help me understand the necropsy report for my dog. About two months ago, my 4.5 year old Golden Retriever Diego collapsed suddenly while playing with our other dog (they were chasing each other around some furniture, something they used to do quite often). My husband and father in law, who are both first responders, immediately started CPR and checked the airways, which were clear. We rushed Diego to the emergency vet clinic, which is a 15 minute drive from our house, while still doing CPR on him in the trunk of the SUV but he passed away on the way to the clinic.   We had a necropsy done in order to make sense of what happened, but I simply do not understand the report. I did talk to my vet about the results and she said that, while it is hard to tell, the death was likely due to dilated cardiomyopathy. I have since tried to learn more about DCM and am confused because from how I understand it, DCM is manifested by an enlarged heart, whereas Diego's heart was of normal size, at least as I ready the necropsy report. I know it won't bring him back, but I hope to get some closure by at least fully understanding the results of the necropsy and would appreciate any help.   Here's a link to the necropsy report   Some medical history:   Diego's right eye was surgically removed about a year ago because his eyeball was too small and was causing infections. Other than that, he had a small growth on his gums that was under observation by the vet and did not cause him any visible discomfort. He was a normal, active, happy dog and did not show any signs of anything being wrong even immediately before he fell over. We took him to the vet at least once a year for checkups/vaccinations and he always got the all clear. The last time he was at the vet was about 3 months prior to his death.   &#x200B;", "c_root_id_A": "ebxxf7e", "c_root_id_B": "ebxcekh", "created_at_utc_A": 1545002067, "created_at_utc_B": 1544987158, "score_A": 102, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I'm really sorry to hear that you lost your pup.  I've read through the report and do not see any indication that DCM was present. The gross pathology (examination of the heart) indicates that the heart was of normal size. Generally, with DCM, we see dilation of at least one chamber of the heart, and quite often all 4 chambers. Nothing in the report indicates that DCM was the cause of death.  The morphological diagnoses that they provide indicate the following:  1. There was a lot of fluid in Diego's lungs and this fluid build up was acute (meaning that it happened over a very short period of time). There was a little bit of fluid in Diego's brain, but it was less fluid than what was found in the lungs. They don't know why this sudden fluid build up happened, and they looked at slides of the tissues and it couldn't help them determine a cause. 2. The tonsils had lymphoid hyperplasia, which means that they just had more lymphoid cells than normal. Lymphoid hyperplasia can sometimes indicate an infection (bacteria, virus, so on), but no signs of infection could be found. They don't know why Diego's tonsils had more white blood cells than normal.  The pathologists speculated some possible causes of death, but unfortunately there is really no way for them to prove what happened. I'll try my best to explain those possible causes here:  1. Metabolic derangements: metabolism refers to all of the processes in the body that break down food into energy. Sometimes an animal may become deficient in something that is required for normal metabolism to occur. This can cause them to not get enough energy to all the cells in the body (like the brain, for example) and it can cause sudden death in some cases. There are also some types of metabolic disorders that can be genetic, although it is much more likely that the pathologists would have seen some changes that would help with a diagnosis of a genetic metabolic disease. 2. Electrochemical disturbances: these are disturbances that can cause the cells in the heart or brain to fire their signals at the wrong times. For example, this can lead to an abnormal heart rhythm (arrhythmia) . This could also be cause by an imbalance in electrolytes, such as too much or too little sodium or potassium. 3. Hemodynamic disturbances: this refers to changes/disruptions in blood flow. We often think of blood loss as the major player in this disturbance (but we know from the report that Diego didn't seem to lose a lot of blood very rapidly), but it can be caused by many other things such as shock, thrombi (blood clots), hyperemia (excess blood being sent to an organ), and infarction (obstructed blood flow) just to name a few. Any change that happens too quickly could cause rapid death because an essential organ like the brain or lungs might suddenly not get enough oxygen. 4. Subtle, small thrombi in the brain: this would be tiny little blood clots that could block blood flow to the brain. Even with the best microscopes, you can't always see them.  Unfortunately, we don't always get an answer when we do a post-mortem exam. Again, I'm really sorry for your loss, and I hope I helped clarify a few things from the report.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   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{"post_id": "a6rs97", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Please help me understand the necropsy report for my dog. About two months ago, my 4.5 year old Golden Retriever Diego collapsed suddenly while playing with our other dog (they were chasing each other around some furniture, something they used to do quite often). My husband and father in law, who are both first responders, immediately started CPR and checked the airways, which were clear. We rushed Diego to the emergency vet clinic, which is a 15 minute drive from our house, while still doing CPR on him in the trunk of the SUV but he passed away on the way to the clinic.   We had a necropsy done in order to make sense of what happened, but I simply do not understand the report. I did talk to my vet about the results and she said that, while it is hard to tell, the death was likely due to dilated cardiomyopathy. I have since tried to learn more about DCM and am confused because from how I understand it, DCM is manifested by an enlarged heart, whereas Diego's heart was of normal size, at least as I ready the necropsy report. I know it won't bring him back, but I hope to get some closure by at least fully understanding the results of the necropsy and would appreciate any help.   Here's a link to the necropsy report   Some medical history:   Diego's right eye was surgically removed about a year ago because his eyeball was too small and was causing infections. Other than that, he had a small growth on his gums that was under observation by the vet and did not cause him any visible discomfort. He was a normal, active, happy dog and did not show any signs of anything being wrong even immediately before he fell over. We took him to the vet at least once a year for checkups/vaccinations and he always got the all clear. The last time he was at the vet was about 3 months prior to his death.   &#x200B;", "c_root_id_A": "ebxuqjb", "c_root_id_B": "ebxn3nj", "created_at_utc_A": 1544999871, "created_at_utc_B": 1544994243, "score_A": 23, "score_B": 21, "human_ref_A": "Essentially it sounds like no structural abnormalities of the heart were found on necropsy. However, things like cardiac arrhythmias can occur without causing any identifiable lesions and can result in sudden death. Often an arrhythmia will have an underlying risk factor (e.g. dogs with enlarged atria of the heart are at greater risk of developing fatal arrhythmias) but they can also occur even in otherwise normal dogs. I'm sorry for your unexpected loss. These things are never easy. It sounds like there was nothing underlying that could have been identified with screening diagnostics, so please do not feel guilty or like you should have been able to prevent this.", "human_ref_B": "I'm new to reddit so I hope I don't inadvertently break a rule.  I'm a retired RN and what I see in the report is that they don't know exactly why your pup died. The significant findings to me are that he had fluid/swelling  in his brain, lungs, and tonsils, but they don't know the reason for this. They throw out some ideas but basically they don't know the exact reason he had a heart attack.   I am so sorry for your loss. It's always hard when we lose them but your guy was young and his death was sudden. Take care.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 5628.0, "score_ratio": 1.0952380952, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "a6rs97", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Please help me understand the necropsy report for my dog. About two months ago, my 4.5 year old Golden Retriever Diego collapsed suddenly while playing with our other dog (they were chasing each other around some furniture, something they used to do quite often). My husband and father in law, who are both first responders, immediately started CPR and checked the airways, which were clear. We rushed Diego to the emergency vet clinic, which is a 15 minute drive from our house, while still doing CPR on him in the trunk of the SUV but he passed away on the way to the clinic.   We had a necropsy done in order to make sense of what happened, but I simply do not understand the report. I did talk to my vet about the results and she said that, while it is hard to tell, the death was likely due to dilated cardiomyopathy. I have since tried to learn more about DCM and am confused because from how I understand it, DCM is manifested by an enlarged heart, whereas Diego's heart was of normal size, at least as I ready the necropsy report. I know it won't bring him back, but I hope to get some closure by at least fully understanding the results of the necropsy and would appreciate any help.   Here's a link to the necropsy report   Some medical history:   Diego's right eye was surgically removed about a year ago because his eyeball was too small and was causing infections. Other than that, he had a small growth on his gums that was under observation by the vet and did not cause him any visible discomfort. He was a normal, active, happy dog and did not show any signs of anything being wrong even immediately before he fell over. We took him to the vet at least once a year for checkups/vaccinations and he always got the all clear. The last time he was at the vet was about 3 months prior to his death.   &#x200B;", "c_root_id_A": "ebxuqjb", "c_root_id_B": "ebxcekh", "created_at_utc_A": 1544999871, "created_at_utc_B": 1544987158, "score_A": 23, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Essentially it sounds like no structural abnormalities of the heart were found on necropsy. However, things like cardiac arrhythmias can occur without causing any identifiable lesions and can result in sudden death. Often an arrhythmia will have an underlying risk factor (e.g. dogs with enlarged atria of the heart are at greater risk of developing fatal arrhythmias) but they can also occur even in otherwise normal dogs. I'm sorry for your unexpected loss. These things are never easy. It sounds like there was nothing underlying that could have been identified with screening diagnostics, so please do not feel guilty or like you should have been able to prevent this.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has not** been removed.   This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 12713.0, "score_ratio": 23.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "a6rs97", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Please help me understand the necropsy report for my dog. About two months ago, my 4.5 year old Golden Retriever Diego collapsed suddenly while playing with our other dog (they were chasing each other around some furniture, something they used to do quite often). My husband and father in law, who are both first responders, immediately started CPR and checked the airways, which were clear. We rushed Diego to the emergency vet clinic, which is a 15 minute drive from our house, while still doing CPR on him in the trunk of the SUV but he passed away on the way to the clinic.   We had a necropsy done in order to make sense of what happened, but I simply do not understand the report. I did talk to my vet about the results and she said that, while it is hard to tell, the death was likely due to dilated cardiomyopathy. I have since tried to learn more about DCM and am confused because from how I understand it, DCM is manifested by an enlarged heart, whereas Diego's heart was of normal size, at least as I ready the necropsy report. I know it won't bring him back, but I hope to get some closure by at least fully understanding the results of the necropsy and would appreciate any help.   Here's a link to the necropsy report   Some medical history:   Diego's right eye was surgically removed about a year ago because his eyeball was too small and was causing infections. Other than that, he had a small growth on his gums that was under observation by the vet and did not cause him any visible discomfort. He was a normal, active, happy dog and did not show any signs of anything being wrong even immediately before he fell over. We took him to the vet at least once a year for checkups/vaccinations and he always got the all clear. The last time he was at the vet was about 3 months prior to his death.   &#x200B;", "c_root_id_A": "ebxn3nj", "c_root_id_B": "ebxcekh", "created_at_utc_A": 1544994243, "created_at_utc_B": 1544987158, "score_A": 21, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I'm new to reddit so I hope I don't inadvertently break a rule.  I'm a retired RN and what I see in the report is that they don't know exactly why your pup died. The significant findings to me are that he had fluid/swelling  in his brain, lungs, and tonsils, but they don't know the reason for this. They throw out some ideas but basically they don't know the exact reason he had a heart attack.   I am so sorry for your loss. It's always hard when we lose them but your guy was young and his death was sudden. Take care.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has not** been removed.   This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 7085.0, "score_ratio": 21.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "i9wv0e", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.81, "history": "UPDATE on my guinea pig and genuine question to the sub Wow, for some reason my previous post exploded with more than 100 upvotes - so I believe people want to see some update on my guinea pig. I would comment on the proper post, but it has been locked for whatever reason.  Well, the vet first extracted what seemed to be a small larva; ended up being not a small larva, but a piece of neoplastic tissue. He then pushed the swollen part lightly, and some dark red blood poured out. He confirmed it to be a cancerous mammary tumor that had ruptured and much probably won't close. So he offered two choices: remove the tumor through a surgery that's bound to be delicate due to the pig's age and the inability of having her not pulling or licking the sutures, or just leave the wound be and tend to it frequently through cleaning and proper bandaging. I am tending to go with the second option.  Since she's still eating and drinking water normally, euthanasia hasn't been considered for the time being, and nor it shall be considered as long as she still has some quality of life.  Now for my question: why is it that the original post was closed? I see that almost all comment posts have been deleted. OK, so I went to double-check the rules, and it came to me: What is this sub even for?     I don't know if I am being naive or something like that, but it seemed to me that a sub named AskVet should allow people to ask the vet's advice. I am entirely sure that most people here come with questions because they are scared and need some sort of support. Telling me basically \"It is a hole. Holes hurt. Go to the vet.\" feels condescending as hell and against the very idea of offering proper advice. Judging by the downvotes on the Moderation messages there in my original post, I am not the only one who thinks that this sub should be more empathetic. Like myself, many people come to you vets in an attempt to find support and know what exactly they should ask their vet about. Many posts, again like mine, say they will take the pet to the vet asap, so it's not like most people need to be reminded to do that.  Some people even came to me and told me the sub used to be different, with people being allowed to offer support and ask in a broader way than nowadays. Now, it honestly feels like the only question the vets in this sub can answer is \"Should I take my pet to the vet?\", and the answer will always be \"Yes\". What kinds of questions can be asked and answered here?  While I expect this post to be deleted/closed, I still believe that some beneficial discussion can be had in order to make the sub more useful. Or else, it's going to keep on being the same as if we went to a doctor to ask if we should go to a doctor. It makes no sense.", "c_root_id_A": "g1i71z4", "c_root_id_B": "g1hyqm5", "created_at_utc_A": 1597452471, "created_at_utc_B": 1597447882, "score_A": 7, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Proper advice is about creating the best outcome for your animal. That is best served by you not wasting time on the internet and taking her to the vet instead. Providing you with a list of things to google just makes it more likely that you will waste potentially valuable time looking up various potential diagnoses on the internet, which does not help your guinea pig in the least.  I don't know why your post ended up being highly upvoted, that seems to be a fairly random thing. What isn't random is that highly upvoted posts usually attract bad advice, which is why most of them will eventually have to be locked. That isn't your fault, it's just an unfortunate reality of moderating a professional and somewhat popular sub.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 4589.0, "score_ratio": 7.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "sgasaa", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.96, "history": "Stray cat I found, what wound could this possibly be? Fighting? Or could someone pour a boiling water on it? https://imgur.com/a/MNg2k4C", "c_root_id_A": "huv8zlz", "c_root_id_B": "huuvvw7", "created_at_utc_A": 1643559786, "created_at_utc_B": 1643554362, "score_A": 75, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "It could have laid in something acidic like snow melt but really there is no way to know unless you could find the spot this cat has been frequenting enough to sleep in. This baby needs to go to the vet ASAP though and if you can't make an appt for today then take it to emergency", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 5424.0, "score_ratio": 75.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "sgasaa", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.96, "history": "Stray cat I found, what wound could this possibly be? Fighting? Or could someone pour a boiling water on it? https://imgur.com/a/MNg2k4C", "c_root_id_A": "huvgo19", "c_root_id_B": "huuvvw7", "created_at_utc_A": 1643562748, "created_at_utc_B": 1643554362, "score_A": 52, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "If it was a stray could it have tried finding warmth inside an engine and was burned.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 8386.0, "score_ratio": 52.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "sgasaa", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.96, "history": "Stray cat I found, what wound could this possibly be? Fighting? Or could someone pour a boiling water on it? https://imgur.com/a/MNg2k4C", "c_root_id_A": "huvwbe9", "c_root_id_B": "huuvvw7", "created_at_utc_A": 1643568678, "created_at_utc_B": 1643554362, "score_A": 35, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "If you can catch it up, pose bring this kitty to the vet ASAP.   Speculating at this point isn't helpful since we can't examine it. Your vet will be able to help determine a cause and formulate a treatment plan.  Thank you for caring for your neighborhood cats!", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 14316.0, "score_ratio": 35.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
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{"post_id": "sgasaa", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.96, "history": "Stray cat I found, what wound could this possibly be? Fighting? Or could someone pour a boiling water on it? https://imgur.com/a/MNg2k4C", "c_root_id_A": "huv8zlz", "c_root_id_B": "huuvvx0", "created_at_utc_A": 1643559786, "created_at_utc_B": 1643554362, "score_A": 75, "score_B": -3, "human_ref_A": "It could have laid in something acidic like snow melt but really there is no way to know unless you could find the spot this cat has been frequenting enough to sleep in. This baby needs to go to the vet ASAP though and if you can't make an appt for today then take it to emergency", "human_ref_B": "Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 5424.0, "score_ratio": -25.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "sgasaa", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.96, "history": "Stray cat I found, what wound could this possibly be? Fighting? Or could someone pour a boiling water on it? https://imgur.com/a/MNg2k4C", "c_root_id_A": "huuvvx0", "c_root_id_B": "huvgo19", "created_at_utc_A": 1643554362, "created_at_utc_B": 1643562748, "score_A": -3, "score_B": 52, "human_ref_A": "Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "If it was a stray could it have tried finding warmth inside an engine and was burned.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 8386.0, "score_ratio": -17.3333333333, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "sgasaa", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.96, "history": "Stray cat I found, what wound could this possibly be? Fighting? Or could someone pour a boiling water on it? https://imgur.com/a/MNg2k4C", "c_root_id_A": "huuvvx0", "c_root_id_B": "huvwbe9", "created_at_utc_A": 1643554362, "created_at_utc_B": 1643568678, "score_A": -3, "score_B": 35, "human_ref_A": "Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "If you can catch it up, pose bring this kitty to the vet ASAP.   Speculating at this point isn't helpful since we can't examine it. Your vet will be able to help determine a cause and formulate a treatment plan.  Thank you for caring for your neighborhood cats!", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 14316.0, "score_ratio": -11.6666666667, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "p09svt", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.91, "history": "Cats are getting sicker after vet visit and meds! Please help. Please reassure or advice! It\u2019s been exactly 2 weeks since my 2 resident cats have been sick. Early July we started fostering a kitten who the rescue said was very healthy. He seemed fine and we introduced him to our cats. There was no issues at all! Everyone was eating, playing, cuddling, and grooming each other almost immediately. Well exactly 2 weeks ago, both my cats started hiding and acting lethargic and not waking me up for food. I took them both to the vet on JULY 29 and they only gave my female cat some Doxycycline a 10 day course and immuniquin for my 2 resident cats and the kitten. I started her on the Doxycycline and everyone else on the Immuniquon immediately. Everything seemed to stay about the same. But Over the last few days, everyone is getting much worse. Sneezing constantly, lethargy, barely eating. I brought both cats back to our vet this morning and they said my female cat had ulcers in her mouth due to the virus. They gave her Buprenorphine SR 3mg/ml this morning. I brought them home after the vet and everyone was eating and in better spirits! I left for the day and came back this evening and it was much worse. My girl cat would barely respond to touch. Her urine is dark yellow ,her pupils are dilated (but maybe that\u2019s from the meds?). She refuses to take any food I give her and she never ever refuses a churu this is the first time. My boy cat came right out and ate and then immediately projectile vomited it up. The kitten is being a kitten but sneezing and wheezing NONSTOP. The confusing part is the vet checked both my resident cats this morning said their heart and lungs sound great! No diarrhea at all. No discharge. No fever. Stool is perfect. The vet reassured me this is a URI or something common and it will go away. It\u2019s been 2 weeks and it\u2019s getting worse and my vet said they will get better\u2026they seem to be getting worse. Please can anyone give me advice. Does this all sound like normal URI stuff? I will take them to the vet 100 times I just want them to feel better. Thank you \ud83d\ude4f\ud83c\udffb", "c_root_id_A": "h85cl6l", "c_root_id_B": "h8575pf", "created_at_utc_A": 1628409721, "created_at_utc_B": 1628405127, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "ER. Immediately.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 4594.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "p09svt", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.91, "history": "Cats are getting sicker after vet visit and meds! Please help. Please reassure or advice! It\u2019s been exactly 2 weeks since my 2 resident cats have been sick. Early July we started fostering a kitten who the rescue said was very healthy. He seemed fine and we introduced him to our cats. There was no issues at all! Everyone was eating, playing, cuddling, and grooming each other almost immediately. Well exactly 2 weeks ago, both my cats started hiding and acting lethargic and not waking me up for food. I took them both to the vet on JULY 29 and they only gave my female cat some Doxycycline a 10 day course and immuniquin for my 2 resident cats and the kitten. I started her on the Doxycycline and everyone else on the Immuniquon immediately. Everything seemed to stay about the same. But Over the last few days, everyone is getting much worse. Sneezing constantly, lethargy, barely eating. I brought both cats back to our vet this morning and they said my female cat had ulcers in her mouth due to the virus. They gave her Buprenorphine SR 3mg/ml this morning. I brought them home after the vet and everyone was eating and in better spirits! I left for the day and came back this evening and it was much worse. My girl cat would barely respond to touch. Her urine is dark yellow ,her pupils are dilated (but maybe that\u2019s from the meds?). She refuses to take any food I give her and she never ever refuses a churu this is the first time. My boy cat came right out and ate and then immediately projectile vomited it up. The kitten is being a kitten but sneezing and wheezing NONSTOP. The confusing part is the vet checked both my resident cats this morning said their heart and lungs sound great! No diarrhea at all. No discharge. No fever. Stool is perfect. The vet reassured me this is a URI or something common and it will go away. It\u2019s been 2 weeks and it\u2019s getting worse and my vet said they will get better\u2026they seem to be getting worse. Please can anyone give me advice. Does this all sound like normal URI stuff? I will take them to the vet 100 times I just want them to feel better. Thank you \ud83d\ude4f\ud83c\udffb", "c_root_id_A": "h862e2y", "c_root_id_B": "h8575pf", "created_at_utc_A": 1628430041, "created_at_utc_B": 1628405127, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I would take the nonresponsive female back to evaluate her. Often times with upper respiratory infections kitties get nasal discharge and inflammation which dampens their ability to smell. If they can\u2019t smell they often won\u2019t eat and need continued supportive care and stinky wet foods. In worse case scenarios, I have heard of cats getting feeding tubes placed temporarily for calicivirus, so don\u2019t be afraid of a feeding tube if she won\u2019t eat.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 24914.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "p09svt", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.91, "history": "Cats are getting sicker after vet visit and meds! Please help. Please reassure or advice! It\u2019s been exactly 2 weeks since my 2 resident cats have been sick. Early July we started fostering a kitten who the rescue said was very healthy. He seemed fine and we introduced him to our cats. There was no issues at all! Everyone was eating, playing, cuddling, and grooming each other almost immediately. Well exactly 2 weeks ago, both my cats started hiding and acting lethargic and not waking me up for food. I took them both to the vet on JULY 29 and they only gave my female cat some Doxycycline a 10 day course and immuniquin for my 2 resident cats and the kitten. I started her on the Doxycycline and everyone else on the Immuniquon immediately. Everything seemed to stay about the same. But Over the last few days, everyone is getting much worse. Sneezing constantly, lethargy, barely eating. I brought both cats back to our vet this morning and they said my female cat had ulcers in her mouth due to the virus. They gave her Buprenorphine SR 3mg/ml this morning. I brought them home after the vet and everyone was eating and in better spirits! I left for the day and came back this evening and it was much worse. My girl cat would barely respond to touch. Her urine is dark yellow ,her pupils are dilated (but maybe that\u2019s from the meds?). She refuses to take any food I give her and she never ever refuses a churu this is the first time. My boy cat came right out and ate and then immediately projectile vomited it up. The kitten is being a kitten but sneezing and wheezing NONSTOP. The confusing part is the vet checked both my resident cats this morning said their heart and lungs sound great! No diarrhea at all. No discharge. No fever. Stool is perfect. The vet reassured me this is a URI or something common and it will go away. It\u2019s been 2 weeks and it\u2019s getting worse and my vet said they will get better\u2026they seem to be getting worse. Please can anyone give me advice. Does this all sound like normal URI stuff? I will take them to the vet 100 times I just want them to feel better. Thank you \ud83d\ude4f\ud83c\udffb", "c_root_id_A": "h85cl6l", "c_root_id_B": "h85chrb", "created_at_utc_A": 1628409721, "created_at_utc_B": 1628409639, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "ER. Immediately.", "human_ref_B": "Are your cats vaccinated?", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 82.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "p09svt", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.91, "history": "Cats are getting sicker after vet visit and meds! Please help. Please reassure or advice! It\u2019s been exactly 2 weeks since my 2 resident cats have been sick. Early July we started fostering a kitten who the rescue said was very healthy. He seemed fine and we introduced him to our cats. There was no issues at all! Everyone was eating, playing, cuddling, and grooming each other almost immediately. Well exactly 2 weeks ago, both my cats started hiding and acting lethargic and not waking me up for food. I took them both to the vet on JULY 29 and they only gave my female cat some Doxycycline a 10 day course and immuniquin for my 2 resident cats and the kitten. I started her on the Doxycycline and everyone else on the Immuniquon immediately. Everything seemed to stay about the same. But Over the last few days, everyone is getting much worse. Sneezing constantly, lethargy, barely eating. I brought both cats back to our vet this morning and they said my female cat had ulcers in her mouth due to the virus. They gave her Buprenorphine SR 3mg/ml this morning. I brought them home after the vet and everyone was eating and in better spirits! I left for the day and came back this evening and it was much worse. My girl cat would barely respond to touch. Her urine is dark yellow ,her pupils are dilated (but maybe that\u2019s from the meds?). She refuses to take any food I give her and she never ever refuses a churu this is the first time. My boy cat came right out and ate and then immediately projectile vomited it up. The kitten is being a kitten but sneezing and wheezing NONSTOP. The confusing part is the vet checked both my resident cats this morning said their heart and lungs sound great! No diarrhea at all. No discharge. No fever. Stool is perfect. The vet reassured me this is a URI or something common and it will go away. It\u2019s been 2 weeks and it\u2019s getting worse and my vet said they will get better\u2026they seem to be getting worse. Please can anyone give me advice. Does this all sound like normal URI stuff? I will take them to the vet 100 times I just want them to feel better. Thank you \ud83d\ude4f\ud83c\udffb", "c_root_id_A": "h85chrb", "c_root_id_B": "h862e2y", "created_at_utc_A": 1628409639, "created_at_utc_B": 1628430041, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "Are your cats vaccinated?", "human_ref_B": "I would take the nonresponsive female back to evaluate her. Often times with upper respiratory infections kitties get nasal discharge and inflammation which dampens their ability to smell. If they can\u2019t smell they often won\u2019t eat and need continued supportive care and stinky wet foods. In worse case scenarios, I have heard of cats getting feeding tubes placed temporarily for calicivirus, so don\u2019t be afraid of a feeding tube if she won\u2019t eat.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 20402.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wsyhzb", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "How do I make my dog comfortable? Is it time to put her down? My dog has over the past few weeks slowly lost the ability to walk, to rise at all, and is incontinent. The vet told us it could be degenerative myelopathy but they would need thousands of dollars in imaging and diagnostic testing to see. We don\u2019t have that kind of money and to my understanding, there\u2019s no clear cure to this. My dog has just been crying and we aren\u2019t sure what to do. Do we get her a dog wheelchair? I just need some advice.", "c_root_id_A": "il1crg5", "c_root_id_B": "il141lc", "created_at_utc_A": 1660976842, "created_at_utc_B": 1660970849, "score_A": 24, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Not a vet but it doesn\u2019t seem like her quality of life is very good at all. She can\u2019t get up or walk, is crying in pain and has to lie in her own waste until you clean her up. Imho there\u2019s no point in spending thousands of dollars that you don\u2019t have just to hear that there\u2019s nothing they can do for her. The kindest thing to do is to let her go in peace and end her suffering. I\u2019m so sorry, OP. I know how hard this decision is.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 5993.0, "score_ratio": 24.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wsyhzb", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "How do I make my dog comfortable? Is it time to put her down? My dog has over the past few weeks slowly lost the ability to walk, to rise at all, and is incontinent. The vet told us it could be degenerative myelopathy but they would need thousands of dollars in imaging and diagnostic testing to see. We don\u2019t have that kind of money and to my understanding, there\u2019s no clear cure to this. My dog has just been crying and we aren\u2019t sure what to do. Do we get her a dog wheelchair? I just need some advice.", "c_root_id_A": "il141lc", "c_root_id_B": "il1o4j9", "created_at_utc_A": 1660970849, "created_at_utc_B": 1660986123, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 8, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Your dog is suffering and in pain. If you don\u2019t have money to get appropriate care, don\u2019t allow her to suffer while she\u2019s defecating all over herself. Don\u2019t allow yourself to be selfish.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 15274.0, "score_ratio": 8.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wsyhzb", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "How do I make my dog comfortable? Is it time to put her down? My dog has over the past few weeks slowly lost the ability to walk, to rise at all, and is incontinent. The vet told us it could be degenerative myelopathy but they would need thousands of dollars in imaging and diagnostic testing to see. We don\u2019t have that kind of money and to my understanding, there\u2019s no clear cure to this. My dog has just been crying and we aren\u2019t sure what to do. Do we get her a dog wheelchair? I just need some advice.", "c_root_id_A": "il141lc", "c_root_id_B": "il49qbl", "created_at_utc_A": 1660970849, "created_at_utc_B": 1661032451, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 3, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "check out this quality of life scale - sometimes it\u2019s helpful to have data to make a hard decision like this. good luck \ud83d\udc97 qol scale", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 61602.0, "score_ratio": 3.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wsyhzb", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "How do I make my dog comfortable? Is it time to put her down? My dog has over the past few weeks slowly lost the ability to walk, to rise at all, and is incontinent. The vet told us it could be degenerative myelopathy but they would need thousands of dollars in imaging and diagnostic testing to see. We don\u2019t have that kind of money and to my understanding, there\u2019s no clear cure to this. My dog has just been crying and we aren\u2019t sure what to do. Do we get her a dog wheelchair? I just need some advice.", "c_root_id_A": "il3o7gu", "c_root_id_B": "il49qbl", "created_at_utc_A": 1661023020, "created_at_utc_B": 1661032451, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 3, "human_ref_A": "No, no wheelchair. I would have put her down already because her quality of life is most important.", "human_ref_B": "check out this quality of life scale - sometimes it\u2019s helpful to have data to make a hard decision like this. good luck \ud83d\udc97 qol scale", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 9431.0, "score_ratio": 3.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wsyhzb", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "How do I make my dog comfortable? Is it time to put her down? My dog has over the past few weeks slowly lost the ability to walk, to rise at all, and is incontinent. The vet told us it could be degenerative myelopathy but they would need thousands of dollars in imaging and diagnostic testing to see. We don\u2019t have that kind of money and to my understanding, there\u2019s no clear cure to this. My dog has just been crying and we aren\u2019t sure what to do. Do we get her a dog wheelchair? I just need some advice.", "c_root_id_A": "il3s0cl", "c_root_id_B": "il49qbl", "created_at_utc_A": 1661024647, "created_at_utc_B": 1661032451, "score_A": 0, "score_B": 3, "human_ref_A": "Ask her.  She will tell you what to do in her own way if you are listening.", "human_ref_B": "check out this quality of life scale - sometimes it\u2019s helpful to have data to make a hard decision like this. good luck \ud83d\udc97 qol scale", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 7804.0, "score_ratio": 3000.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "pkrekb", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.82, "history": "My dog passed away Two weeks ago my dog (9yrs old, pit-bull) started having trouble breathing and he was coughing. He wasn\u2019t acting himself at all. We took him to the vet they did scans and she thought he had fluid around his heart and lungs but needed a radiologist to confirm since she didn\u2019t have experience with large chested dogs. (His regular vet didn\u2019t have appointments available). They diagnosed him with bronchitis and didn\u2019t feel he had fluid around his heart. They gave him prednisone to treat the bronchitis. He got better for a day or two then progressively gotten worse. On Sunday, He started having increased trouble breathing, incredibly bloody diarrhea and completely lethargic. We took him to the ER and he was diagnosed with being over stressed (we moved recently) we were told to give him a bland diet. Two days (Tuesday) after his ER visit he stopped eating completely, refusing even human food, and continued labored breathing. We took him back to a different ER (today) when he refused to eat again for breakfast. He coded several times and ultimately passed away from Congestive Heart Failure. I am completely heartbroken and wondering how I could have missed this? I feel guilty that I wasn\u2019t a good advocate for him or that I missed possible signs sooner that could have saved him. He also had SARDS and hip dysplasia. I have two other dogs and I just want to make sure I don\u2019t miss something like this again \ud83d\ude41  Thank you.", "c_root_id_A": "hc5em6r", "c_root_id_B": "hc5rdzo", "created_at_utc_A": 1631164798, "created_at_utc_B": 1631176047, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 3, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "I'm so sorry, losing a pet is really hard. please don't blame yourself, sometimes you can't pick up on little things like you said even the vet didn't diagnosis him accurately when taken first. animals tend to become sicker after the age of 7/8, I also have a 8/9 year old baby I'm always worried sick for. even if you go out of your way sometimes there's nothing you can do. I can't comfort you, but what helps me is writing to my past dog in my notes in a way that I am addressing him and keeping a belief that once I'm dead I'll be with my lost pets again and that they are currently having the time of their lives in what I like to call dog heaven. I'm not particularly a believer in anything, but knowing how pure animals are there's no way there can't be a safe haven for them! its gonna be hard but it will pass.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 11249.0, "score_ratio": 3.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "l4gig8", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.9, "history": "My dog is growing a protuberance under her spay incision My puppy was spayed 10 days ago and had been recovering fine. In the past couple of days, we've noticed a protuberance growing directly underneath the spay incision. Pic linked below. The protuberance is soft (feels like liquid.) She doesn't complain when we touch it and she's eating and behaving normally - full of energy. We have a follow up appt with the vet soon but were wondering if this could be an emergency. thanks  Picture: https://i.imgur.com/eQIAlJP.png  Species: Dog  Age: 6m  Sex/Neuter status: Female, Spayed  Breed: Double Doodle  Body weight: 28 lbs  History:  Clinical signs: protuberance under spay incision  Duration: 2d  Your general location: USA  Links to test results, X-rays, vet reports etc:", "c_root_id_A": "gkopbib", "c_root_id_B": "gkoed5z", "created_at_utc_A": 1611559767, "created_at_utc_B": 1611551047, "score_A": 15, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Put in a call to your vet as soon as you can.  They may want to see her before her follow up.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 8720.0, "score_ratio": 15.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "5qo04r", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.86, "history": "I am sorry if this is a very sad subject, but I have not lost a pet yet as an adult and was wondering, what do people do when their pets pass away? What are your options other than cremation? When I was a kid we had a huge garden/ field so we'd give them a burial, but now I live in NYC. Species:  Age:  Sex/Neuter status:  Breed:  Body weight:  History:  Clinical signs:  Duration:  Your general location:  Links to test results, X-rays, vet reports etc:", "c_root_id_A": "dd0phg4", "c_root_id_B": "dd0qlke", "created_at_utc_A": 1485616696, "created_at_utc_B": 1485618556, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 9, "human_ref_A": "I've only lost smaller pets over the years (fish, stick insects, baby snake) and I buried all of them in our small backyard. With bigger pets like cats and dogs it's illegal here, and they either need to be picked up for proper disposal, buried in a pet cemetery or cremated. Might want to look into the laws in NY.", "human_ref_B": "Tech here. Most clinics offer different options depending on what best fits with the family. Cremation is the most common thing people do, with either private cremation (the pet is cremated alone and the ashes are returned to the owner in an urn) or communal cremation (the pet is cremated with a group of other animals and the ashes are not returned- this obviously is less expensive) being the two choices there. Otherwise owners can elect to take the body home and bury it themselves or arrange for a pet burial company to take care of the remains. Some small country vets will bury the animal on their own property instead of using a cremation company but that's not common due to zoning ordinances and hassle (I used to work for a very small country vet that does this still). People can also donate their pet's body to a university with a vet school for education purposes though this doesn't happen too often. The grieving process and thoughts on how remains should be handled are different for every family and veterinarians are willing to work with owners to help find the best solution for their needs. It's already a hard time for an owner and vet staff want to ease the stress as much as possible.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 1860.0, "score_ratio": 9.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "5qo04r", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.86, "history": "I am sorry if this is a very sad subject, but I have not lost a pet yet as an adult and was wondering, what do people do when their pets pass away? What are your options other than cremation? When I was a kid we had a huge garden/ field so we'd give them a burial, but now I live in NYC. Species:  Age:  Sex/Neuter status:  Breed:  Body weight:  History:  Clinical signs:  Duration:  Your general location:  Links to test results, X-rays, vet reports etc:", "c_root_id_A": "dd0phg4", "c_root_id_B": "dd0vtoq", "created_at_utc_A": 1485616696, "created_at_utc_B": 1485626177, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 4, "human_ref_A": "I've only lost smaller pets over the years (fish, stick insects, baby snake) and I buried all of them in our small backyard. With bigger pets like cats and dogs it's illegal here, and they either need to be picked up for proper disposal, buried in a pet cemetery or cremated. Might want to look into the laws in NY.", "human_ref_B": "So, if I'm hearing you correctly, there is no good access to a garden to bury the ashes or remains of your pet in NYC. If that is the case, maybe one possibility is something like this service that lets you grow a potted plant from the ashes.   http://www.letyourlovegrow.com/eco-friendly-burial/living-memorial/  Or another option might be to see if there is a pet cemetery available?  Another option might be to check with the local vet schools to see if there is a study going perhaps related to the pet's major illness that could use the pet's body to better understand that illness? Sometimes, the vet schools return the pet's ashes when the study is finished and the results benefit other animals and often times people suffering from that illness.    I hope these options help you give you ideas so that you eventually can find the right one for you and your pet.  I hope you get the support you need whenever you and your pet need to say goodbye.  It really sucks when pets die.  Hope you find a meaningful way to honor your pet.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 9481.0, "score_ratio": 4.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "5qo04r", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.86, "history": "I am sorry if this is a very sad subject, but I have not lost a pet yet as an adult and was wondering, what do people do when their pets pass away? What are your options other than cremation? When I was a kid we had a huge garden/ field so we'd give them a burial, but now I live in NYC. Species:  Age:  Sex/Neuter status:  Breed:  Body weight:  History:  Clinical signs:  Duration:  Your general location:  Links to test results, X-rays, vet reports etc:", "c_root_id_A": "dd0vtoq", "c_root_id_B": "dd0qudo", "created_at_utc_A": 1485626177, "created_at_utc_B": 1485618947, "score_A": 4, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "So, if I'm hearing you correctly, there is no good access to a garden to bury the ashes or remains of your pet in NYC. If that is the case, maybe one possibility is something like this service that lets you grow a potted plant from the ashes.   http://www.letyourlovegrow.com/eco-friendly-burial/living-memorial/  Or another option might be to see if there is a pet cemetery available?  Another option might be to check with the local vet schools to see if there is a study going perhaps related to the pet's major illness that could use the pet's body to better understand that illness? Sometimes, the vet schools return the pet's ashes when the study is finished and the results benefit other animals and often times people suffering from that illness.    I hope these options help you give you ideas so that you eventually can find the right one for you and your pet.  I hope you get the support you need whenever you and your pet need to say goodbye.  It really sucks when pets die.  Hope you find a meaningful way to honor your pet.", "human_ref_B": "Cremation, burial in the backyard (groundwater pollution can be an issue, so check with your municipality or county before you do it), leaving the body at the vet's for disposal, or donating it to a vet school.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 7230.0, "score_ratio": 4.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "aiu5st", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.89, "history": "Why is declawing a thing in the USA while it is considered animal cruelty nearly all over Europe?", "c_root_id_A": "eeqh9nb", "c_root_id_B": "eeqh18v", "created_at_utc_A": 1548206389, "created_at_utc_B": 1548206218, "score_A": 13, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "It is banned in some parts of the USA (mostly California).  Also just because it is permitted does not mean all vets will do it.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has not** been removed.   This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 171.0, "score_ratio": 13.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "aiu5st", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.89, "history": "Why is declawing a thing in the USA while it is considered animal cruelty nearly all over Europe?", "c_root_id_A": "eeqh18v", "c_root_id_B": "eeqztac", "created_at_utc_A": 1548206218, "created_at_utc_B": 1548222195, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 3, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has not** been removed.   This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Playing devils advocate here. I\u2019ve known people who it was a decision between declawing a cat and getting rid of the cat. I don\u2019t know if unwanted cats get euthanized very often but a declawed cat given a good home is better off than the alternative in some situations. I had a good friend who declawed her cats. She spoiled them rotten and gave them a good home. I never felt bad for her cats.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 15977.0, "score_ratio": 3.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "z77tdr", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Cat diagnosed with asthma. Can dry food cause this to develop in cats? My cat (M4) was diagnosed with probable asthma a few days ago after we brought him to the vet with coughing / wheezing and lethargy. The day before his symptoms started, he was off his food - a brand of dry food that we introduced about six weeks prior. However, he seemed hungry and like he just didn't want to eat his dry food because he kept going over to eat it and then looking at us to give him something else.   He's been on wet food since going to the vet because of needing to crush up pills in it, and after doing some reading about cat-asthma I'm now wondering if, hypothetically, it's likely a cat could develop an allergy / intolerance to a dry food after 6 weeks of eating it daily? (By the way I obviously know it's not possible to say why my cat developed these symptoms, I just want to widen my knowledge).", "c_root_id_A": "iy54j24", "c_root_id_B": "iy5eogs", "created_at_utc_A": 1669668052, "created_at_utc_B": 1669672021, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 3, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Food allergies and intolerances very very very very rarely present as asthma. Asthma is more of an allergic reaction to the environment", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 3969.0, "score_ratio": 3.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "eoatzp", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.67, "history": "My dog was diagnosed with cancer. Please Help. First of all I want to say sorry for the long post but I thought that I should tell the whole story, also English is not my main language so excuse me from any mistakes and I would like to mention that I am very bad with medical terms so I might get something wrong.   My 9 year old, female, golden retriever was diagnosed with osteosarcoma and now it is spreading everywhere.  This all started in September 2019, my dog was barking in the yard when suddenly it screamed loudly which is unusual for her. I wasn't home at the time, my grandma heard the whole thing. When i got home my dog was just laying and didn't want to get up, even when she did she held her left leg in the air. I took her to the vet, they made X-rays but there was nothing unusual except that she had arthritis on the joints of the back legs (which is kind of usual in golden retrievers at that age i guess). So they gave her something for pain and sent us home to see how she would feel in the next few days. She was getting better but her leg never fully recovered, she walked and ran but never fully put pressure on the left leg. I thought it takes more time to heal so I didn't do anything. She was eating normally, she was happy nothing was out of the ordinary.   A month and a half later nothing was changing so I took her to the vet for another X-ray. This was on the 6th of November 2019. On those x-rays they saw that on the left side of the pelvis the bone was broken (idk the name of the bone you can see it on the pictures). The bone was fine on the x-rays in September. They were very confused how it happened because they said that particular bone was very hard to brake and they were asking me did she got hit by a car. They said that the bone started healing and with time it should get better. Here are X-rays from November: https://imgur.com/hFaUEwK, https://imgur.com/Uxae22B.  So a month later nothing is better. Again I take her to the vet for another X-ray. This was on the 2nd of December 2019. On those X-rays they see something that they don't like. They tell me that there is lateral proliferation where the bone cracked and that they suspect is bad. They did some analysis from blood sample and echocardiography but nothing was out of the ordinary and they weren't sure of what was going on. They told me that they need to do a procedure where they take a sample from the bone or from the tissue and test it to see what was going on. Here is the x-ray from December: https://imgur.com/2C55Qle   After this vet appointment my dog got worse and worse. She didn't want to walk and the nerves on her leg were very damaged.    The procedure is set for 26th of December 2019. The veterinarians wanted one last x-ray so they could be sure it didn't spread anywhere and it is just the bone that is affected. So they did an x-ray and they saw that there were tumors all over the abdomen and chest. Now they were sure that it was cancer. They told me it is better not to do the procedure because she might not recover well. Here are the x-rays: https://imgur.com/Ssorndw, https://imgur.com/Nodih8t, https://imgur.com/bQ3YHdJ .  They all told me that there was nothing that it could be done, except for one doctor who suggested getting Piroxicam pills and combine them with Endoxan (Cyclophosphamide) pills which are chemotherapy for humans but worked well with dogs. The problem is I am from Macedonia (Europe) and my country doesn't supply them and I am having problems getting them from other countries. Croatia is the closest country that I can get them from but I don't have anyone from Croatia to contact and see if they will give me the pills with the prescription from my country. Days go by and my dog is getting worse. They treat her only with painkillers but that doesn't help at all. Today she was throwing up , didn't want to eat and is having problems pooping.  Can anyone give me any advice if she can get any better? Is there other medications that I could maybe get to make her better? or should I put her to sleep so she doesn't go through all this pain?!", "c_root_id_A": "febq2w9", "c_root_id_B": "fearcfu", "created_at_utc_A": 1578961470, "created_at_utc_B": 1578951545, "score_A": 5, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "If you haven't seeked a referral to a veterinary oncologist that would be the next step, and palliative radiation might also be something worth discussing. Other than that, this is not a good diagnosis and we generally recommend the HHHHHMM Scale as a somewhat objective means of measuring quality of life.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed.   This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. 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{"post_id": "eoatzp", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.67, "history": "My dog was diagnosed with cancer. Please Help. First of all I want to say sorry for the long post but I thought that I should tell the whole story, also English is not my main language so excuse me from any mistakes and I would like to mention that I am very bad with medical terms so I might get something wrong.   My 9 year old, female, golden retriever was diagnosed with osteosarcoma and now it is spreading everywhere.  This all started in September 2019, my dog was barking in the yard when suddenly it screamed loudly which is unusual for her. I wasn't home at the time, my grandma heard the whole thing. When i got home my dog was just laying and didn't want to get up, even when she did she held her left leg in the air. I took her to the vet, they made X-rays but there was nothing unusual except that she had arthritis on the joints of the back legs (which is kind of usual in golden retrievers at that age i guess). So they gave her something for pain and sent us home to see how she would feel in the next few days. She was getting better but her leg never fully recovered, she walked and ran but never fully put pressure on the left leg. I thought it takes more time to heal so I didn't do anything. She was eating normally, she was happy nothing was out of the ordinary.   A month and a half later nothing was changing so I took her to the vet for another X-ray. This was on the 6th of November 2019. On those x-rays they saw that on the left side of the pelvis the bone was broken (idk the name of the bone you can see it on the pictures). The bone was fine on the x-rays in September. They were very confused how it happened because they said that particular bone was very hard to brake and they were asking me did she got hit by a car. They said that the bone started healing and with time it should get better. Here are X-rays from November: https://imgur.com/hFaUEwK, https://imgur.com/Uxae22B.  So a month later nothing is better. Again I take her to the vet for another X-ray. This was on the 2nd of December 2019. On those X-rays they see something that they don't like. They tell me that there is lateral proliferation where the bone cracked and that they suspect is bad. They did some analysis from blood sample and echocardiography but nothing was out of the ordinary and they weren't sure of what was going on. They told me that they need to do a procedure where they take a sample from the bone or from the tissue and test it to see what was going on. Here is the x-ray from December: https://imgur.com/2C55Qle   After this vet appointment my dog got worse and worse. She didn't want to walk and the nerves on her leg were very damaged.    The procedure is set for 26th of December 2019. The veterinarians wanted one last x-ray so they could be sure it didn't spread anywhere and it is just the bone that is affected. So they did an x-ray and they saw that there were tumors all over the abdomen and chest. Now they were sure that it was cancer. They told me it is better not to do the procedure because she might not recover well. Here are the x-rays: https://imgur.com/Ssorndw, https://imgur.com/Nodih8t, https://imgur.com/bQ3YHdJ .  They all told me that there was nothing that it could be done, except for one doctor who suggested getting Piroxicam pills and combine them with Endoxan (Cyclophosphamide) pills which are chemotherapy for humans but worked well with dogs. The problem is I am from Macedonia (Europe) and my country doesn't supply them and I am having problems getting them from other countries. Croatia is the closest country that I can get them from but I don't have anyone from Croatia to contact and see if they will give me the pills with the prescription from my country. Days go by and my dog is getting worse. They treat her only with painkillers but that doesn't help at all. Today she was throwing up , didn't want to eat and is having problems pooping.  Can anyone give me any advice if she can get any better? Is there other medications that I could maybe get to make her better? or should I put her to sleep so she doesn't go through all this pain?!", "c_root_id_A": "febq2w9", "c_root_id_B": "feb5ca8", "created_at_utc_A": 1578961470, "created_at_utc_B": 1578955578, "score_A": 5, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "If you haven't seeked a referral to a veterinary oncologist that would be the next step, and palliative radiation might also be something worth discussing. Other than that, this is not a good diagnosis and we generally recommend the HHHHHMM Scale as a somewhat objective means of measuring quality of life.", "human_ref_B": "Internet says your country does supply both Endoxan and Piroxicam (called **Remoxicam**), could it be that the pharmacy(es) you checked didn't have them and didn't know they could get them? Can you ask the vet to find them for you, or help you looking at the very least?", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 5892.0, "score_ratio": 5.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "3kmgkl", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "My dog has been diagnosed with cancer and given weeks/months at most. Help please! Species: Dog  Age: 11  Sex/Neuter status: m/y  Breed: Silky Terrier  Body weight: 14lbs  History: He had some small bladder stones that were making him uncomfortable. They were removed surgically. Shortly after he started struggling to pee. Precious time was lost as bladder infection or other issues related to his previous issues seemed the cause and treatments were tried. Then the new problem was found: an inoperable cancerous mass on his prostate that is pressing on the narrow part of his bladder and making it difficult for him to pee. Near term this is the biggest concern as I've been told it could become too restricted make him very sick very fast. Obviously I'm fighting time here.  Your general location: Southern California  He's on something I believe is called proxicam. Anti-inflammatory. His vet says it *might* shrink the tumor and buy him more time. His current prognosis is possibly months if the drug does affect it, but only weeks if it does not.  I trust his vet's assessment, but no single person has all the ideas. Perhaps somebody here does?   I want to save him. If I can't I'd at least like to extend his quality of life as long as I can. Presently he's peppy, smiling, playful, and has a good appetite. Though he does have discomfort when peeing.  I'm looking for ideas. Ideas that could save him. Or even ideas that could make him more comfortable and extend his life.  This is devastating. Please help.", "c_root_id_A": "cuyq2m5", "c_root_id_B": "cuz6mnx", "created_at_utc_A": 1442033328, "created_at_utc_B": 1442081546, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "A urethral stent may help him continue to urinate despite his prostatic mass.  I know there is an interventional radiologist at ACCESS in Culver City who performs them.", "human_ref_B": "Have you seen an Oncologist? If not, you should ask for a referral to go see one (as others have said). They will be able to work him up thoroughly (has he had full staging? No evidence of mets to the local nodes or chest?) and give you ALL the options- piroxicam + other chemotherapies, radiation, surgery.   The \"only worth doing the stent if he responds to piroxicam\" seems like something you could have more of a discussion about. The issue is that animals with prostatic cancer don't have great survival times (as you have heard). So is it really fair to put them through surgery (a surgery that makes them incontinent in more than 1:4 cases) when they may not have a lot of time left? I think that's a question that doesn't have such a clear cut answer. I think it depends a lot on what his quality of life is like otherwise, and whether he has any evidence of metastatic disease. If, besides not being able to pee, his quality of life is great, then I think surgery might not be something to sweep off the table so quickly. It does mean he would have a period of discomfort peri-op, but if he can get an extra couple months of happy, good quality survival time because now he can pee again... it might be worth it.   Of course, complications can always happen, and urethral stenting isn't going to be as easy to recover from as a simple cystotomy. A lot of dogs have straining and urethritis, and like I said a lot can be incontinent. Then there are the horrible scary complications like anesthetic death or the stent perforating the urethra and allowing urine leakage... Or the cancer might progress rapidly, and his quality of life may decline very quickly after surgery. You haven't mentioned if he has metastatic disease, but if he already does, that's a pretty tough sell.   There are also other surgical options besides stenting. Tube cystostomy is one- we suture the bladder to a port on the body wall and you can empty it that way. It's another salvage procedure- we're not treating the cancer, just trying to make it possible for him to continue to urinate for as long as possible after he becomes completely obstructed. Won't make him incontinent like the stent might, but it does mean extra management for you having to empty it, and the risk of UTIs is high. The bladder can also become detached, meaning emergency surgery is required.   Prostatectomy is another option, but it's pretty rare in vet med. Not many people, even among boarded surgeons, are willing to do it, and a lot of animals are not good candidates, again because of metastatic disease or local invasiveness. Has a lot of potential complications and is technically challenging. BUT, it is the only way to actually remove the tumor, and hopefully reduce to microscopic disease (giving your follow up chemo options their best chance).   So that's some general info about the surgical side of things. Like I said, he may not be a good candidate for any of these, or you may not want to put him through surgery knowing he has a terminal disease. Talk to your vet and ideally an onco specialist and ask lots of questions so you can make the best decision for him.   Good luck with your poor pup :(", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 48218.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "9fxru6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Emaciated and dehydrated cat found on side of the road Last night my family found an adult cat drinking from a puddle in the road. The cat was without any obvious injuries. When we went to look for a collar, we saw that the cat struggled to walk and was incredibly thin.   We took the cat home, where it drank water from a bowl, and licked at, but never ate the wet, and dry food, rice, and chicken it was offered.  We live in a rural location, so we couldn't get any supplies that night. Today we gave it a day's serving of highly nutritional caloric gel for cats, and an electrolyte solution through forced drinking and feeding for both.  The cat seems to be more lethargic today, not getting up, but still moving when we give it the solution. It wants to just lie down.   I was wondering if there is anything else to do. I'm afraid that it may be too late for this cat, but I atleast want to give it a chance and make it comfortable. Any advice or help will be greatly appreciated.", "c_root_id_A": "e602i16", "c_root_id_B": "e6027n6", "created_at_utc_A": 1536978705, "created_at_utc_B": 1536978348, "score_A": 42, "score_B": 15, "human_ref_A": "Forced feeding or drinking without medical advice can do more damage than good.   This cat may be suffering. You should visit a vet immediately.   If costs are a problem, call ahead and let them know your situation. Some vets will work with good samaritans.", "human_ref_B": "Take her to a veterinarian as soon as you can. They can assess how bad her condition is and give you instructions on what to do next.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 357.0, "score_ratio": 2.8, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "9fxru6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Emaciated and dehydrated cat found on side of the road Last night my family found an adult cat drinking from a puddle in the road. The cat was without any obvious injuries. When we went to look for a collar, we saw that the cat struggled to walk and was incredibly thin.   We took the cat home, where it drank water from a bowl, and licked at, but never ate the wet, and dry food, rice, and chicken it was offered.  We live in a rural location, so we couldn't get any supplies that night. Today we gave it a day's serving of highly nutritional caloric gel for cats, and an electrolyte solution through forced drinking and feeding for both.  The cat seems to be more lethargic today, not getting up, but still moving when we give it the solution. It wants to just lie down.   I was wondering if there is anything else to do. I'm afraid that it may be too late for this cat, but I atleast want to give it a chance and make it comfortable. Any advice or help will be greatly appreciated.", "c_root_id_A": "e602i16", "c_root_id_B": "e6006vk", "created_at_utc_A": 1536978705, "created_at_utc_B": 1536975894, "score_A": 42, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Forced feeding or drinking without medical advice can do more damage than good.   This cat may be suffering. You should visit a vet immediately.   If costs are a problem, call ahead and let them know your situation. Some vets will work with good samaritans.", "human_ref_B": "This is a reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 2811.0, "score_ratio": 42.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "9fxru6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Emaciated and dehydrated cat found on side of the road Last night my family found an adult cat drinking from a puddle in the road. The cat was without any obvious injuries. When we went to look for a collar, we saw that the cat struggled to walk and was incredibly thin.   We took the cat home, where it drank water from a bowl, and licked at, but never ate the wet, and dry food, rice, and chicken it was offered.  We live in a rural location, so we couldn't get any supplies that night. Today we gave it a day's serving of highly nutritional caloric gel for cats, and an electrolyte solution through forced drinking and feeding for both.  The cat seems to be more lethargic today, not getting up, but still moving when we give it the solution. It wants to just lie down.   I was wondering if there is anything else to do. I'm afraid that it may be too late for this cat, but I atleast want to give it a chance and make it comfortable. Any advice or help will be greatly appreciated.", "c_root_id_A": "e6027n6", "c_root_id_B": "e6006vk", "created_at_utc_A": 1536978348, "created_at_utc_B": 1536975894, "score_A": 15, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Take her to a veterinarian as soon as you can. They can assess how bad her condition is and give you instructions on what to do next.", "human_ref_B": "This is a reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 2454.0, "score_ratio": 15.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "9fxru6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Emaciated and dehydrated cat found on side of the road Last night my family found an adult cat drinking from a puddle in the road. The cat was without any obvious injuries. When we went to look for a collar, we saw that the cat struggled to walk and was incredibly thin.   We took the cat home, where it drank water from a bowl, and licked at, but never ate the wet, and dry food, rice, and chicken it was offered.  We live in a rural location, so we couldn't get any supplies that night. Today we gave it a day's serving of highly nutritional caloric gel for cats, and an electrolyte solution through forced drinking and feeding for both.  The cat seems to be more lethargic today, not getting up, but still moving when we give it the solution. It wants to just lie down.   I was wondering if there is anything else to do. I'm afraid that it may be too late for this cat, but I atleast want to give it a chance and make it comfortable. Any advice or help will be greatly appreciated.", "c_root_id_A": "e607brw", "c_root_id_B": "e6006vk", "created_at_utc_A": 1536984962, "created_at_utc_B": 1536975894, "score_A": 9, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "ER immediately.", "human_ref_B": "This is a reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 9068.0, "score_ratio": 9.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "9fxru6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Emaciated and dehydrated cat found on side of the road Last night my family found an adult cat drinking from a puddle in the road. The cat was without any obvious injuries. When we went to look for a collar, we saw that the cat struggled to walk and was incredibly thin.   We took the cat home, where it drank water from a bowl, and licked at, but never ate the wet, and dry food, rice, and chicken it was offered.  We live in a rural location, so we couldn't get any supplies that night. Today we gave it a day's serving of highly nutritional caloric gel for cats, and an electrolyte solution through forced drinking and feeding for both.  The cat seems to be more lethargic today, not getting up, but still moving when we give it the solution. It wants to just lie down.   I was wondering if there is anything else to do. I'm afraid that it may be too late for this cat, but I atleast want to give it a chance and make it comfortable. Any advice or help will be greatly appreciated.", "c_root_id_A": "e608oqi", "c_root_id_B": "e6006vk", "created_at_utc_A": 1536986993, "created_at_utc_B": 1536975894, "score_A": 6, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Even if you just drop her st the vet as a stray and leave- take her.", "human_ref_B": "This is a reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 11099.0, "score_ratio": 6.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "9fxru6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.97, "history": "Emaciated and dehydrated cat found on side of the road Last night my family found an adult cat drinking from a puddle in the road. The cat was without any obvious injuries. When we went to look for a collar, we saw that the cat struggled to walk and was incredibly thin.   We took the cat home, where it drank water from a bowl, and licked at, but never ate the wet, and dry food, rice, and chicken it was offered.  We live in a rural location, so we couldn't get any supplies that night. Today we gave it a day's serving of highly nutritional caloric gel for cats, and an electrolyte solution through forced drinking and feeding for both.  The cat seems to be more lethargic today, not getting up, but still moving when we give it the solution. It wants to just lie down.   I was wondering if there is anything else to do. I'm afraid that it may be too late for this cat, but I atleast want to give it a chance and make it comfortable. Any advice or help will be greatly appreciated.", "c_root_id_A": "e60uu8o", "c_root_id_B": "e6006vk", "created_at_utc_A": 1537024353, "created_at_utc_B": 1536975894, "score_A": 5, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "DO NOT FEED THE CAT TOO MUCH in case of refeeding syndrome. Hydration and electrolytes are the most important at this point. Hold off on the caloric gel and food.  The cat needs to see a vet and at the very least get a blood test (biochemistry), but a full workup would be best.", "human_ref_B": "This is a reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 48459.0, "score_ratio": 5.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "8w4fmk", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.95, "history": "Putting my 16 year old cat down. How to make his last few days as comfortable as possible. As the title says my partner and I have had to come to the painful realization that my cat has been suffering from Squamus Cell Carcenoma in his lower jaw for too long. Our vet agrees that its a good time before he suffers anymore and we are arranging for our vet to come over to euthanasia him. My question is this, He's always been a happy eater, his favorite bad \"treats\" have always been ice cream and potatoe chips. The vet said he can enjoy all the ice cream he wants. Are there any other yummy treats that we can offer him now that might make his last few days here more comfortable? He has given us all so much love that I just want his last days here to be as happy and full as love as possible.  I plan on taking him for a \"walk\" (me carrying) everyday because he always loved joining us when we took our puppy for her daily walks.", "c_root_id_A": "e1sxl74", "c_root_id_B": "e1sxvtt", "created_at_utc_A": 1530746317, "created_at_utc_B": 1530746653, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 5, "human_ref_A": "\ud83e\udd17 Hugs \ud83e\udd17", "human_ref_B": "I am so sorry.   He may enjoy some cheese, just not too much of it because cats are lactose intolerant. Otherwise the walks seem like a great idea as well as as much cuddle time as possible. Maybe offer him a warm blanket of some sort.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 336.0, "score_ratio": 2.5, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "8w4fmk", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.95, "history": "Putting my 16 year old cat down. How to make his last few days as comfortable as possible. As the title says my partner and I have had to come to the painful realization that my cat has been suffering from Squamus Cell Carcenoma in his lower jaw for too long. Our vet agrees that its a good time before he suffers anymore and we are arranging for our vet to come over to euthanasia him. My question is this, He's always been a happy eater, his favorite bad \"treats\" have always been ice cream and potatoe chips. The vet said he can enjoy all the ice cream he wants. Are there any other yummy treats that we can offer him now that might make his last few days here more comfortable? He has given us all so much love that I just want his last days here to be as happy and full as love as possible.  I plan on taking him for a \"walk\" (me carrying) everyday because he always loved joining us when we took our puppy for her daily walks.", "c_root_id_A": "e1sxvtt", "c_root_id_B": "e1sx1d7", "created_at_utc_A": 1530746653, "created_at_utc_B": 1530745700, "score_A": 5, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I am so sorry.   He may enjoy some cheese, just not too much of it because cats are lactose intolerant. Otherwise the walks seem like a great idea as well as as much cuddle time as possible. Maybe offer him a warm blanket of some sort.", "human_ref_B": "<3", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 953.0, "score_ratio": 5.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "8w4fmk", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.95, "history": "Putting my 16 year old cat down. How to make his last few days as comfortable as possible. As the title says my partner and I have had to come to the painful realization that my cat has been suffering from Squamus Cell Carcenoma in his lower jaw for too long. Our vet agrees that its a good time before he suffers anymore and we are arranging for our vet to come over to euthanasia him. My question is this, He's always been a happy eater, his favorite bad \"treats\" have always been ice cream and potatoe chips. The vet said he can enjoy all the ice cream he wants. Are there any other yummy treats that we can offer him now that might make his last few days here more comfortable? He has given us all so much love that I just want his last days here to be as happy and full as love as possible.  I plan on taking him for a \"walk\" (me carrying) everyday because he always loved joining us when we took our puppy for her daily walks.", "c_root_id_A": "e1t9stv", "c_root_id_B": "e1tbhpu", "created_at_utc_A": 1530760482, "created_at_utc_B": 1530762490, "score_A": 3, "score_B": 4, "human_ref_A": "Let him do anything you have always not let him do. I took my cat on his last day for a car ride to the beach ( he loved car rides) let him drink from a glass on my end table. Took him to say goodbye to my daughter who was his buddy an hour away. Do everything that you know he loves and take photos. Lots of them.", "human_ref_B": "My heart is with you right now.  I barely made it through reading without crying. I have an old man kitty that loves ice cream, too.  He loves vanilla pudding, string cheese, and cottage cheese, as well.  (He's not lactose intolerant.) Maybe your sweet boy would like them, too.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 2008.0, "score_ratio": 1.3333333333, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "8w4fmk", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.95, "history": "Putting my 16 year old cat down. How to make his last few days as comfortable as possible. As the title says my partner and I have had to come to the painful realization that my cat has been suffering from Squamus Cell Carcenoma in his lower jaw for too long. Our vet agrees that its a good time before he suffers anymore and we are arranging for our vet to come over to euthanasia him. My question is this, He's always been a happy eater, his favorite bad \"treats\" have always been ice cream and potatoe chips. The vet said he can enjoy all the ice cream he wants. Are there any other yummy treats that we can offer him now that might make his last few days here more comfortable? He has given us all so much love that I just want his last days here to be as happy and full as love as possible.  I plan on taking him for a \"walk\" (me carrying) everyday because he always loved joining us when we took our puppy for her daily walks.", "c_root_id_A": "e1tiztk", "c_root_id_B": "e1t9stv", "created_at_utc_A": 1530773475, "created_at_utc_B": 1530760482, "score_A": 5, "score_B": 3, "human_ref_A": "My 15 year old cat was diagnosed with squamous cell carcinoma in his ear canal. The tumor made it hard for him to eat the last couple days of his life. I fed him chicken breast and baby food and warmed it up for him. Also fed him Hills A/d, which is a prescription wet food that is high in calories and highly palatable. If you feel he is painful, talk to your vet about pain meds for his last couple days.   Cancer sucks. I'm sorry you have to lose him this way.", "human_ref_B": "Let him do anything you have always not let him do. I took my cat on his last day for a car ride to the beach ( he loved car rides) let him drink from a glass on my end table. Took him to say goodbye to my daughter who was his buddy an hour away. Do everything that you know he loves and take photos. Lots of them.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 12993.0, "score_ratio": 1.6666666667, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "8w4fmk", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.95, "history": "Putting my 16 year old cat down. How to make his last few days as comfortable as possible. As the title says my partner and I have had to come to the painful realization that my cat has been suffering from Squamus Cell Carcenoma in his lower jaw for too long. Our vet agrees that its a good time before he suffers anymore and we are arranging for our vet to come over to euthanasia him. My question is this, He's always been a happy eater, his favorite bad \"treats\" have always been ice cream and potatoe chips. The vet said he can enjoy all the ice cream he wants. Are there any other yummy treats that we can offer him now that might make his last few days here more comfortable? He has given us all so much love that I just want his last days here to be as happy and full as love as possible.  I plan on taking him for a \"walk\" (me carrying) everyday because he always loved joining us when we took our puppy for her daily walks.", "c_root_id_A": "e1sxl74", "c_root_id_B": "e1t9stv", "created_at_utc_A": 1530746317, "created_at_utc_B": 1530760482, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 3, "human_ref_A": "\ud83e\udd17 Hugs \ud83e\udd17", "human_ref_B": "Let him do anything you have always not let him do. I took my cat on his last day for a car ride to the beach ( he loved car rides) let him drink from a glass on my end table. Took him to say goodbye to my daughter who was his buddy an hour away. Do everything that you know he loves and take photos. Lots of them.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 14165.0, "score_ratio": 1.5, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "8w4fmk", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.95, "history": "Putting my 16 year old cat down. How to make his last few days as comfortable as possible. As the title says my partner and I have had to come to the painful realization that my cat has been suffering from Squamus Cell Carcenoma in his lower jaw for too long. Our vet agrees that its a good time before he suffers anymore and we are arranging for our vet to come over to euthanasia him. My question is this, He's always been a happy eater, his favorite bad \"treats\" have always been ice cream and potatoe chips. The vet said he can enjoy all the ice cream he wants. Are there any other yummy treats that we can offer him now that might make his last few days here more comfortable? He has given us all so much love that I just want his last days here to be as happy and full as love as possible.  I plan on taking him for a \"walk\" (me carrying) everyday because he always loved joining us when we took our puppy for her daily walks.", "c_root_id_A": "e1t9stv", "c_root_id_B": "e1sx1d7", "created_at_utc_A": 1530760482, "created_at_utc_B": 1530745700, "score_A": 3, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Let him do anything you have always not let him do. I took my cat on his last day for a car ride to the beach ( he loved car rides) let him drink from a glass on my end table. Took him to say goodbye to my daughter who was his buddy an hour away. Do everything that you know he loves and take photos. Lots of them.", "human_ref_B": "<3", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 14782.0, "score_ratio": 3.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "8w4fmk", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.95, "history": "Putting my 16 year old cat down. How to make his last few days as comfortable as possible. As the title says my partner and I have had to come to the painful realization that my cat has been suffering from Squamus Cell Carcenoma in his lower jaw for too long. Our vet agrees that its a good time before he suffers anymore and we are arranging for our vet to come over to euthanasia him. My question is this, He's always been a happy eater, his favorite bad \"treats\" have always been ice cream and potatoe chips. The vet said he can enjoy all the ice cream he wants. Are there any other yummy treats that we can offer him now that might make his last few days here more comfortable? He has given us all so much love that I just want his last days here to be as happy and full as love as possible.  I plan on taking him for a \"walk\" (me carrying) everyday because he always loved joining us when we took our puppy for her daily walks.", "c_root_id_A": "e1tbhpu", "c_root_id_B": "e1tiztk", "created_at_utc_A": 1530762490, "created_at_utc_B": 1530773475, "score_A": 4, "score_B": 5, "human_ref_A": "My heart is with you right now.  I barely made it through reading without crying. I have an old man kitty that loves ice cream, too.  He loves vanilla pudding, string cheese, and cottage cheese, as well.  (He's not lactose intolerant.) Maybe your sweet boy would like them, too.", "human_ref_B": "My 15 year old cat was diagnosed with squamous cell carcinoma in his ear canal. The tumor made it hard for him to eat the last couple days of his life. I fed him chicken breast and baby food and warmed it up for him. Also fed him Hills A/d, which is a prescription wet food that is high in calories and highly palatable. If you feel he is painful, talk to your vet about pain meds for his last couple days.   Cancer sucks. I'm sorry you have to lose him this way.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 10985.0, "score_ratio": 1.25, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "8w4fmk", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.95, "history": "Putting my 16 year old cat down. How to make his last few days as comfortable as possible. As the title says my partner and I have had to come to the painful realization that my cat has been suffering from Squamus Cell Carcenoma in his lower jaw for too long. Our vet agrees that its a good time before he suffers anymore and we are arranging for our vet to come over to euthanasia him. My question is this, He's always been a happy eater, his favorite bad \"treats\" have always been ice cream and potatoe chips. The vet said he can enjoy all the ice cream he wants. Are there any other yummy treats that we can offer him now that might make his last few days here more comfortable? He has given us all so much love that I just want his last days here to be as happy and full as love as possible.  I plan on taking him for a \"walk\" (me carrying) everyday because he always loved joining us when we took our puppy for her daily walks.", "c_root_id_A": "e1sxl74", "c_root_id_B": "e1tbhpu", "created_at_utc_A": 1530746317, "created_at_utc_B": 1530762490, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 4, "human_ref_A": "\ud83e\udd17 Hugs \ud83e\udd17", "human_ref_B": "My heart is with you right now.  I barely made it through reading without crying. I have an old man kitty that loves ice cream, too.  He loves vanilla pudding, string cheese, and cottage cheese, as well.  (He's not lactose intolerant.) Maybe your sweet boy would like them, too.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 16173.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "8w4fmk", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.95, "history": "Putting my 16 year old cat down. How to make his last few days as comfortable as possible. As the title says my partner and I have had to come to the painful realization that my cat has been suffering from Squamus Cell Carcenoma in his lower jaw for too long. Our vet agrees that its a good time before he suffers anymore and we are arranging for our vet to come over to euthanasia him. My question is this, He's always been a happy eater, his favorite bad \"treats\" have always been ice cream and potatoe chips. The vet said he can enjoy all the ice cream he wants. Are there any other yummy treats that we can offer him now that might make his last few days here more comfortable? He has given us all so much love that I just want his last days here to be as happy and full as love as possible.  I plan on taking him for a \"walk\" (me carrying) everyday because he always loved joining us when we took our puppy for her daily walks.", "c_root_id_A": "e1tbhpu", "c_root_id_B": "e1sx1d7", "created_at_utc_A": 1530762490, "created_at_utc_B": 1530745700, "score_A": 4, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "My heart is with you right now.  I barely made it through reading without crying. I have an old man kitty that loves ice cream, too.  He loves vanilla pudding, string cheese, and cottage cheese, as well.  (He's not lactose intolerant.) Maybe your sweet boy would like them, too.", "human_ref_B": "<3", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 16790.0, "score_ratio": 4.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "8w4fmk", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.95, "history": "Putting my 16 year old cat down. How to make his last few days as comfortable as possible. As the title says my partner and I have had to come to the painful realization that my cat has been suffering from Squamus Cell Carcenoma in his lower jaw for too long. Our vet agrees that its a good time before he suffers anymore and we are arranging for our vet to come over to euthanasia him. My question is this, He's always been a happy eater, his favorite bad \"treats\" have always been ice cream and potatoe chips. The vet said he can enjoy all the ice cream he wants. Are there any other yummy treats that we can offer him now that might make his last few days here more comfortable? He has given us all so much love that I just want his last days here to be as happy and full as love as possible.  I plan on taking him for a \"walk\" (me carrying) everyday because he always loved joining us when we took our puppy for her daily walks.", "c_root_id_A": "e1tiztk", "c_root_id_B": "e1sxl74", "created_at_utc_A": 1530773475, "created_at_utc_B": 1530746317, "score_A": 5, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "My 15 year old cat was diagnosed with squamous cell carcinoma in his ear canal. The tumor made it hard for him to eat the last couple days of his life. I fed him chicken breast and baby food and warmed it up for him. Also fed him Hills A/d, which is a prescription wet food that is high in calories and highly palatable. If you feel he is painful, talk to your vet about pain meds for his last couple days.   Cancer sucks. I'm sorry you have to lose him this way.", "human_ref_B": "\ud83e\udd17 Hugs \ud83e\udd17", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 27158.0, "score_ratio": 2.5, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "8w4fmk", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.95, "history": "Putting my 16 year old cat down. How to make his last few days as comfortable as possible. As the title says my partner and I have had to come to the painful realization that my cat has been suffering from Squamus Cell Carcenoma in his lower jaw for too long. Our vet agrees that its a good time before he suffers anymore and we are arranging for our vet to come over to euthanasia him. My question is this, He's always been a happy eater, his favorite bad \"treats\" have always been ice cream and potatoe chips. The vet said he can enjoy all the ice cream he wants. Are there any other yummy treats that we can offer him now that might make his last few days here more comfortable? He has given us all so much love that I just want his last days here to be as happy and full as love as possible.  I plan on taking him for a \"walk\" (me carrying) everyday because he always loved joining us when we took our puppy for her daily walks.", "c_root_id_A": "e1tiztk", "c_root_id_B": "e1thbj3", "created_at_utc_A": 1530773475, "created_at_utc_B": 1530770657, "score_A": 5, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "My 15 year old cat was diagnosed with squamous cell carcinoma in his ear canal. The tumor made it hard for him to eat the last couple days of his life. I fed him chicken breast and baby food and warmed it up for him. Also fed him Hills A/d, which is a prescription wet food that is high in calories and highly palatable. If you feel he is painful, talk to your vet about pain meds for his last couple days.   Cancer sucks. I'm sorry you have to lose him this way.", "human_ref_B": "I am so sorry for your impending loss. I went through the same thing with my 16 year old kitty a few years ago. At home is definitely much less stressful for human and kitty, I'm glad you were able to arrange that.    I got her some fresh salmon, loved on her as much as possible. She was going through kidney failure, so she wasn't eating much, but she did enjoy the fresh fishy.  The vet also gave me some pain medication for her, administered through a dropper.  In the hours leading up to the appointment, I put on some calming classical music and a Youtube video of a cat purring to soothe her.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 2818.0, "score_ratio": 2.5, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "8w4fmk", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.95, "history": "Putting my 16 year old cat down. How to make his last few days as comfortable as possible. As the title says my partner and I have had to come to the painful realization that my cat has been suffering from Squamus Cell Carcenoma in his lower jaw for too long. Our vet agrees that its a good time before he suffers anymore and we are arranging for our vet to come over to euthanasia him. My question is this, He's always been a happy eater, his favorite bad \"treats\" have always been ice cream and potatoe chips. The vet said he can enjoy all the ice cream he wants. Are there any other yummy treats that we can offer him now that might make his last few days here more comfortable? He has given us all so much love that I just want his last days here to be as happy and full as love as possible.  I plan on taking him for a \"walk\" (me carrying) everyday because he always loved joining us when we took our puppy for her daily walks.", "c_root_id_A": "e1tiztk", "c_root_id_B": "e1sx1d7", "created_at_utc_A": 1530773475, "created_at_utc_B": 1530745700, "score_A": 5, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "My 15 year old cat was diagnosed with squamous cell carcinoma in his ear canal. The tumor made it hard for him to eat the last couple days of his life. I fed him chicken breast and baby food and warmed it up for him. Also fed him Hills A/d, which is a prescription wet food that is high in calories and highly palatable. If you feel he is painful, talk to your vet about pain meds for his last couple days.   Cancer sucks. I'm sorry you have to lose him this way.", "human_ref_B": "<3", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 27775.0, "score_ratio": 5.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "8w4fmk", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.95, "history": "Putting my 16 year old cat down. How to make his last few days as comfortable as possible. As the title says my partner and I have had to come to the painful realization that my cat has been suffering from Squamus Cell Carcenoma in his lower jaw for too long. Our vet agrees that its a good time before he suffers anymore and we are arranging for our vet to come over to euthanasia him. My question is this, He's always been a happy eater, his favorite bad \"treats\" have always been ice cream and potatoe chips. The vet said he can enjoy all the ice cream he wants. Are there any other yummy treats that we can offer him now that might make his last few days here more comfortable? He has given us all so much love that I just want his last days here to be as happy and full as love as possible.  I plan on taking him for a \"walk\" (me carrying) everyday because he always loved joining us when we took our puppy for her daily walks.", "c_root_id_A": "e1sxl74", "c_root_id_B": "e1sx1d7", "created_at_utc_A": 1530746317, "created_at_utc_B": 1530745700, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "\ud83e\udd17 Hugs \ud83e\udd17", "human_ref_B": "<3", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 617.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "8w4fmk", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.95, "history": "Putting my 16 year old cat down. How to make his last few days as comfortable as possible. As the title says my partner and I have had to come to the painful realization that my cat has been suffering from Squamus Cell Carcenoma in his lower jaw for too long. Our vet agrees that its a good time before he suffers anymore and we are arranging for our vet to come over to euthanasia him. My question is this, He's always been a happy eater, his favorite bad \"treats\" have always been ice cream and potatoe chips. The vet said he can enjoy all the ice cream he wants. Are there any other yummy treats that we can offer him now that might make his last few days here more comfortable? He has given us all so much love that I just want his last days here to be as happy and full as love as possible.  I plan on taking him for a \"walk\" (me carrying) everyday because he always loved joining us when we took our puppy for her daily walks.", "c_root_id_A": "e1thbj3", "c_root_id_B": "e1sx1d7", "created_at_utc_A": 1530770657, "created_at_utc_B": 1530745700, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I am so sorry for your impending loss. I went through the same thing with my 16 year old kitty a few years ago. At home is definitely much less stressful for human and kitty, I'm glad you were able to arrange that.    I got her some fresh salmon, loved on her as much as possible. She was going through kidney failure, so she wasn't eating much, but she did enjoy the fresh fishy.  The vet also gave me some pain medication for her, administered through a dropper.  In the hours leading up to the appointment, I put on some calming classical music and a Youtube video of a cat purring to soothe her.", "human_ref_B": "<3", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 24957.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "8w4fmk", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.95, "history": "Putting my 16 year old cat down. How to make his last few days as comfortable as possible. As the title says my partner and I have had to come to the painful realization that my cat has been suffering from Squamus Cell Carcenoma in his lower jaw for too long. Our vet agrees that its a good time before he suffers anymore and we are arranging for our vet to come over to euthanasia him. My question is this, He's always been a happy eater, his favorite bad \"treats\" have always been ice cream and potatoe chips. The vet said he can enjoy all the ice cream he wants. Are there any other yummy treats that we can offer him now that might make his last few days here more comfortable? He has given us all so much love that I just want his last days here to be as happy and full as love as possible.  I plan on taking him for a \"walk\" (me carrying) everyday because he always loved joining us when we took our puppy for her daily walks.", "c_root_id_A": "e1sx1d7", "c_root_id_B": "e1toah1", "created_at_utc_A": 1530745700, "created_at_utc_B": 1530784309, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "<3", "human_ref_B": "Honestly, giving him all the affection you can in his final days is a big one. My cat's cancer came back a year after surgery and he became sick very suddenly. My advice for you would be to give him all the affection you can before you put him to sleep. My biggest regret is that I didn't hug him longer in his final moments. Lots of hugs and sympathies for you, OP. Cancer sucks but at least he got to live a long happy life with loving owners. Our little guy liked ice cream too :) maybe get him some soft serve since it melts easier heh.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 38609.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "8w4fmk", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.95, "history": "Putting my 16 year old cat down. How to make his last few days as comfortable as possible. As the title says my partner and I have had to come to the painful realization that my cat has been suffering from Squamus Cell Carcenoma in his lower jaw for too long. Our vet agrees that its a good time before he suffers anymore and we are arranging for our vet to come over to euthanasia him. My question is this, He's always been a happy eater, his favorite bad \"treats\" have always been ice cream and potatoe chips. The vet said he can enjoy all the ice cream he wants. Are there any other yummy treats that we can offer him now that might make his last few days here more comfortable? He has given us all so much love that I just want his last days here to be as happy and full as love as possible.  I plan on taking him for a \"walk\" (me carrying) everyday because he always loved joining us when we took our puppy for her daily walks.", "c_root_id_A": "e1to9of", "c_root_id_B": "e1toah1", "created_at_utc_A": 1530784258, "created_at_utc_B": 1530784309, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "I'm so sorry dear. Sending you so much of love. Lost my cats last year. It is painful but keep keep talking to him, loving him, letting him know it is okay for him to rest and tell him how grateful you are for his love. Surround him with so much of love and blankets. Hold him too. Hugs", "human_ref_B": "Honestly, giving him all the affection you can in his final days is a big one. My cat's cancer came back a year after surgery and he became sick very suddenly. My advice for you would be to give him all the affection you can before you put him to sleep. My biggest regret is that I didn't hug him longer in his final moments. Lots of hugs and sympathies for you, OP. Cancer sucks but at least he got to live a long happy life with loving owners. Our little guy liked ice cream too :) maybe get him some soft serve since it melts easier heh.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 51.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "i00sbm", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Preparing for cat's death, questions about at home euthanasia process Hi there, I am currently waiting for my vet to open to ask these questions, but I would just like multiple opinions/answers. My 11 year old baby has FIP and has been rapidly declining over the last couple weeks. His abdomen is so bloated he looks like he's pregnant. He's eating half the food he was before, he sort of wobbles when he walks, he's not as energetic as he was before. I know his time is coming soon, and my boyfriend and I agreed we want our vet to make a house call, which he offers, when it's time to maximize his comfort.  1. How does the process usually work? Has Covid19 affected the usual routine at all?  2. How can we make him as comfortable as we can? We know we'll put him in his favorite cat bed, but what else can we do? 3. Part of the reason we want to do it at home is because he has a healthy brother from the same litter that has literally never been apart from him. Theyre best friends and we want him to see his body so he can understand in some way that he isnt coming back. One time he had to do an overnight at the vet and it was constant yowling and pacing the house from his brother. What else can I do to help his surviving brother? 4. Will the vet take him right away after hes gone or can we get like 5 to 10 minutes with him after hes passed? 5. How long does it take for cremation to happen and then to get the ashes? Thanks guys. New to this sub so I'm sorry if anything isnt allowed here. I'm heartbroken and freaking out.", "c_root_id_A": "fzmbd8m", "c_root_id_B": "fzmcf94", "created_at_utc_A": 1596029655, "created_at_utc_B": 1596030280, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 6, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "1. I suggest contacting you vet practice for the answer to this question. Covid has changed a lot of working conditions and each practice will be taking a different approach so only they can answer this question for you.   2. You know you\u2019re cat best. His favourite bed is a great plan so he\u2019ll be relaxed. Does he have a favourite food or treat? Spoil him! Let him have his faves for breakfast!   3. It might be worth looking into ways to help manage stress and anxiety for his brother. I\u2019m not sure where you are, but in the UK we have some plug in diffusers that can help (Feliway, Pet Remedy). You can also get some food supplements that help, we gave our cat some before a big house move, the one we used was called Zylkene and was based on a milk protein.   4. I would expect a vet to allow you 5-10 minutes to grieve before taking him away.   5. This one I don\u2019t have any answer to, but your vet will probably have a better idea with how long it takes from the cremation service they use.   I\u2019m so sorry this is happening during such and an unusual and stressful time. You are doing a wonderful thing to try and plan how to make this stress free for both yourselves and your cats.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 625.0, "score_ratio": 6.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "7lb2w9", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.84, "history": "Dog Euthanasia gone wrong? I had to euthanize my dog last night. Once he was injected with the serum he perked up and began crying and trying to back off the table. The vet said his vein burst because he was old and dehydrated. My question is, was he in a lot of pain? It feels devastating to know his last moments were violent and painful.", "c_root_id_A": "drl4vto", "c_root_id_B": "drl4rum", "created_at_utc_A": 1513888648, "created_at_utc_B": 1513888534, "score_A": 25, "score_B": 16, "human_ref_A": "So sorry for your loss :(  The solution can sting if it goes outside the vein which probably surprised your dog and caused the reaction you saw. It's an unfortunate thing to witness in your dog's last moments but ultimately you were there with him until the end and I think that alone brings a lot of peace and relief.", "human_ref_B": "Some dogs have a paradoxical effect to sedation drugs used for euthanasia. Obviously nobody can know for sure what they are experiencing, but sometimes animals reactions can seem worse than they are (dogs coming out of anesthesia and experiencing dysphoria can sound like they are being horribly abused, when in reality they just feel weird and don't know what's going on). Try to take heart in the fact that your dog is now at peace, with no more suffering to endure, and that you were there for him.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 114.0, "score_ratio": 1.5625, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "i4s0gy", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.87, "history": "Discovered cat has chronic kidney disease, how do I get her to eat on a diet? My cat is a HORRIBLE picky eater and has been her whole life. She doesn't like anything very much, she gets bored of certain foods even if she likes them at first and it hasn't been easy getting her to eat okay. She refuses most home cooked things like boiled chicken, fish, whatever. We tried getting her used to them when she was small, so that we could prepare her food if necessary, but it didn't work.  She's 8 years old now and she'd been acting very lethargic, not eating, sleeping all day. Mother took her to a vet (we don't have \"our vet\" anymore since he died). He ran bloodwork, and she has chronic kidney disease. He also said her thyroid seemed enlarged and to come back to get bloodwork for that done too. Did 3 standard injections, an anti-inflammatory, some vitamins, and an antibiotic. He didn't recommend a treatment, didn't recommend a long term diet... Just gave my mom some dry food for kidney issues and told her to give her that for a while but then she can go back on her usual diet.  As I understand from... literally every source, including another vet we spoke to only on the phone, she needs to be on a permanent diet for the issue, considering it's not acute, it's chronic.  She refuses to eat the food. We got 2 kinds, and she doesn't want either of them. She doesn't want any of the soft food I gave her. You can't mix in the diet food with the usual food because she will literally pick out only the pieces she likes, or will refuse to eat it completely. You \\*can not\\* fool her with anything, she's impossible.  I was thinking of literally going to the pet store and asking them for like 20gr of each CKD food. Problem is obviously most of these foods you can only buy in a bag.... I don't know what to do. She lost weight cause she's refused to eat barely anything for 3 days. Today I caved and gave her some of her regular dry food and she ate some. But I know that's not a fix. What can I do?", "c_root_id_A": "g0kt2ts", "c_root_id_B": "g0k5kl9", "created_at_utc_A": 1596731359, "created_at_utc_B": 1596721273, "score_A": 3, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Ask your vet or the pet store about this to double-check (I'm not a vet) but I believe some pet food companies will let you return unused food if your cat will not eat it.  It is very common to have a hard time getting cats to eat the prescription diet, the good news is that there are many different varieties available.  I hope you can find one that works for your cat.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 10086.0, "score_ratio": 3.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "y7o5ev", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Did I do the right thing? My dog died while sleeping.  She had stage 5 lymphoma and had gone into remission once but it came back.  She was doing chemo again but it wasn't really helping.  She was about 3 days in without eating and severe nausea.  This is all to provide context.  She was napping on my bed while I was cleaning.  I was cleaning for a while and hadn't checked on her.  I came to check on her and she wasn't breathing.  I tried to wake her but when I looked in her eyes I knew she was dead.  I covered her with a sheet, then a few hours later I called the vet, explained the situation and they said I could bring her down to be cremated.  I am being plagued now by thoughts that I should have tried CPR or got her emergency care immediately and I concluded too quickly she was dead.  Could that have been the case?", "c_root_id_A": "isvlsw0", "c_root_id_B": "isvpm2y", "created_at_utc_A": 1666140487, "created_at_utc_B": 1666142169, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 22, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "If she was stiff especially there was no bringing her back. You didn\u2019t do anything wrong. It\u2019s a personal choice to get emergency vet care for an end of life hospice situation but if she was already gone it wouldn\u2019t have helped. You\u2019re not at fault for that", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 1682.0, "score_ratio": 22.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "y7o5ev", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Did I do the right thing? My dog died while sleeping.  She had stage 5 lymphoma and had gone into remission once but it came back.  She was doing chemo again but it wasn't really helping.  She was about 3 days in without eating and severe nausea.  This is all to provide context.  She was napping on my bed while I was cleaning.  I was cleaning for a while and hadn't checked on her.  I came to check on her and she wasn't breathing.  I tried to wake her but when I looked in her eyes I knew she was dead.  I covered her with a sheet, then a few hours later I called the vet, explained the situation and they said I could bring her down to be cremated.  I am being plagued now by thoughts that I should have tried CPR or got her emergency care immediately and I concluded too quickly she was dead.  Could that have been the case?", "c_root_id_A": "isx7sb2", "c_root_id_B": "isvlsw0", "created_at_utc_A": 1666177929, "created_at_utc_B": 1666140487, "score_A": 9, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I'm so sorry for your loss. I think no matter what you do, we tend to be plagued by a bit of guilt at the end over whether all your choices were the right ones.  I think you did everything you could for your dog and it was her time to go. I am wishing you peace and strength.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 37442.0, "score_ratio": 9.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "y7o5ev", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Did I do the right thing? My dog died while sleeping.  She had stage 5 lymphoma and had gone into remission once but it came back.  She was doing chemo again but it wasn't really helping.  She was about 3 days in without eating and severe nausea.  This is all to provide context.  She was napping on my bed while I was cleaning.  I was cleaning for a while and hadn't checked on her.  I came to check on her and she wasn't breathing.  I tried to wake her but when I looked in her eyes I knew she was dead.  I covered her with a sheet, then a few hours later I called the vet, explained the situation and they said I could bring her down to be cremated.  I am being plagued now by thoughts that I should have tried CPR or got her emergency care immediately and I concluded too quickly she was dead.  Could that have been the case?", "c_root_id_A": "iswaym7", "c_root_id_B": "isx7sb2", "created_at_utc_A": 1666152485, "created_at_utc_B": 1666177929, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 9, "human_ref_A": "I am not a vet, but by the description in your first paragraph I have to say that you did everything you could. Even if CPR had worked, it sounds like your pup was just at the end. You did great by her and got her all the healthcare you could. Getting chemo for her is more than a lot of people can do for their pets. I\u2019m so sorry for your loss. I hope your sweet baby gets to say hi to my old cat across the rainbow bridge.", "human_ref_B": "I'm so sorry for your loss. I think no matter what you do, we tend to be plagued by a bit of guilt at the end over whether all your choices were the right ones.  I think you did everything you could for your dog and it was her time to go. I am wishing you peace and strength.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 25444.0, "score_ratio": 9.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "y7o5ev", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Did I do the right thing? My dog died while sleeping.  She had stage 5 lymphoma and had gone into remission once but it came back.  She was doing chemo again but it wasn't really helping.  She was about 3 days in without eating and severe nausea.  This is all to provide context.  She was napping on my bed while I was cleaning.  I was cleaning for a while and hadn't checked on her.  I came to check on her and she wasn't breathing.  I tried to wake her but when I looked in her eyes I knew she was dead.  I covered her with a sheet, then a few hours later I called the vet, explained the situation and they said I could bring her down to be cremated.  I am being plagued now by thoughts that I should have tried CPR or got her emergency care immediately and I concluded too quickly she was dead.  Could that have been the case?", "c_root_id_A": "isxhuis", "c_root_id_B": "isxg3sd", "created_at_utc_A": 1666183758, "created_at_utc_B": 1666182859, "score_A": 9, "score_B": 7, "human_ref_A": "Yes, you did the right thing. She knew it was time to go, and she left. She left a sick body to be a free soul. You did everything you could. Now is your time to grieve \u2764\ufe0f", "human_ref_B": "You didn't do anything wrong. We always tend to second guess ourselves in situations like this. But the way I see it she died in her home. With you. And she went peacefully in her sleep on your bed so she will have been very content, happy and at ease to pass peacefully.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 899.0, "score_ratio": 1.2857142857, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "y7o5ev", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Did I do the right thing? My dog died while sleeping.  She had stage 5 lymphoma and had gone into remission once but it came back.  She was doing chemo again but it wasn't really helping.  She was about 3 days in without eating and severe nausea.  This is all to provide context.  She was napping on my bed while I was cleaning.  I was cleaning for a while and hadn't checked on her.  I came to check on her and she wasn't breathing.  I tried to wake her but when I looked in her eyes I knew she was dead.  I covered her with a sheet, then a few hours later I called the vet, explained the situation and they said I could bring her down to be cremated.  I am being plagued now by thoughts that I should have tried CPR or got her emergency care immediately and I concluded too quickly she was dead.  Could that have been the case?", "c_root_id_A": "isxhuis", "c_root_id_B": "isvlsw0", "created_at_utc_A": 1666183758, "created_at_utc_B": 1666140487, "score_A": 9, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Yes, you did the right thing. She knew it was time to go, and she left. She left a sick body to be a free soul. You did everything you could. Now is your time to grieve \u2764\ufe0f", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 43271.0, "score_ratio": 9.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "y7o5ev", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Did I do the right thing? My dog died while sleeping.  She had stage 5 lymphoma and had gone into remission once but it came back.  She was doing chemo again but it wasn't really helping.  She was about 3 days in without eating and severe nausea.  This is all to provide context.  She was napping on my bed while I was cleaning.  I was cleaning for a while and hadn't checked on her.  I came to check on her and she wasn't breathing.  I tried to wake her but when I looked in her eyes I knew she was dead.  I covered her with a sheet, then a few hours later I called the vet, explained the situation and they said I could bring her down to be cremated.  I am being plagued now by thoughts that I should have tried CPR or got her emergency care immediately and I concluded too quickly she was dead.  Could that have been the case?", "c_root_id_A": "iswaym7", "c_root_id_B": "isxhuis", "created_at_utc_A": 1666152485, "created_at_utc_B": 1666183758, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 9, "human_ref_A": "I am not a vet, but by the description in your first paragraph I have to say that you did everything you could. Even if CPR had worked, it sounds like your pup was just at the end. You did great by her and got her all the healthcare you could. Getting chemo for her is more than a lot of people can do for their pets. I\u2019m so sorry for your loss. I hope your sweet baby gets to say hi to my old cat across the rainbow bridge.", "human_ref_B": "Yes, you did the right thing. She knew it was time to go, and she left. She left a sick body to be a free soul. You did everything you could. Now is your time to grieve \u2764\ufe0f", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 31273.0, "score_ratio": 9.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "y7o5ev", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Did I do the right thing? My dog died while sleeping.  She had stage 5 lymphoma and had gone into remission once but it came back.  She was doing chemo again but it wasn't really helping.  She was about 3 days in without eating and severe nausea.  This is all to provide context.  She was napping on my bed while I was cleaning.  I was cleaning for a while and hadn't checked on her.  I came to check on her and she wasn't breathing.  I tried to wake her but when I looked in her eyes I knew she was dead.  I covered her with a sheet, then a few hours later I called the vet, explained the situation and they said I could bring her down to be cremated.  I am being plagued now by thoughts that I should have tried CPR or got her emergency care immediately and I concluded too quickly she was dead.  Could that have been the case?", "c_root_id_A": "isxg3sd", "c_root_id_B": "isvlsw0", "created_at_utc_A": 1666182859, "created_at_utc_B": 1666140487, "score_A": 7, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "You didn't do anything wrong. We always tend to second guess ourselves in situations like this. But the way I see it she died in her home. With you. And she went peacefully in her sleep on your bed so she will have been very content, happy and at ease to pass peacefully.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 42372.0, "score_ratio": 7.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "y7o5ev", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Did I do the right thing? My dog died while sleeping.  She had stage 5 lymphoma and had gone into remission once but it came back.  She was doing chemo again but it wasn't really helping.  She was about 3 days in without eating and severe nausea.  This is all to provide context.  She was napping on my bed while I was cleaning.  I was cleaning for a while and hadn't checked on her.  I came to check on her and she wasn't breathing.  I tried to wake her but when I looked in her eyes I knew she was dead.  I covered her with a sheet, then a few hours later I called the vet, explained the situation and they said I could bring her down to be cremated.  I am being plagued now by thoughts that I should have tried CPR or got her emergency care immediately and I concluded too quickly she was dead.  Could that have been the case?", "c_root_id_A": "isxg3sd", "c_root_id_B": "iswaym7", "created_at_utc_A": 1666182859, "created_at_utc_B": 1666152485, "score_A": 7, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "You didn't do anything wrong. We always tend to second guess ourselves in situations like this. But the way I see it she died in her home. With you. And she went peacefully in her sleep on your bed so she will have been very content, happy and at ease to pass peacefully.", "human_ref_B": "I am not a vet, but by the description in your first paragraph I have to say that you did everything you could. Even if CPR had worked, it sounds like your pup was just at the end. You did great by her and got her all the healthcare you could. Getting chemo for her is more than a lot of people can do for their pets. I\u2019m so sorry for your loss. I hope your sweet baby gets to say hi to my old cat across the rainbow bridge.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 30374.0, "score_ratio": 7.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "y7o5ev", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Did I do the right thing? My dog died while sleeping.  She had stage 5 lymphoma and had gone into remission once but it came back.  She was doing chemo again but it wasn't really helping.  She was about 3 days in without eating and severe nausea.  This is all to provide context.  She was napping on my bed while I was cleaning.  I was cleaning for a while and hadn't checked on her.  I came to check on her and she wasn't breathing.  I tried to wake her but when I looked in her eyes I knew she was dead.  I covered her with a sheet, then a few hours later I called the vet, explained the situation and they said I could bring her down to be cremated.  I am being plagued now by thoughts that I should have tried CPR or got her emergency care immediately and I concluded too quickly she was dead.  Could that have been the case?", "c_root_id_A": "isxidzn", "c_root_id_B": "isvlsw0", "created_at_utc_A": 1666184030, "created_at_utc_B": 1666140487, "score_A": 4, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "She was very sick and stopped breathing for a reason. Reviving her, even if it were possible, wouldn't have made that reason go away. You did everything right. I'm so sorry for your loss.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 43543.0, "score_ratio": 4.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "y7o5ev", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Did I do the right thing? My dog died while sleeping.  She had stage 5 lymphoma and had gone into remission once but it came back.  She was doing chemo again but it wasn't really helping.  She was about 3 days in without eating and severe nausea.  This is all to provide context.  She was napping on my bed while I was cleaning.  I was cleaning for a while and hadn't checked on her.  I came to check on her and she wasn't breathing.  I tried to wake her but when I looked in her eyes I knew she was dead.  I covered her with a sheet, then a few hours later I called the vet, explained the situation and they said I could bring her down to be cremated.  I am being plagued now by thoughts that I should have tried CPR or got her emergency care immediately and I concluded too quickly she was dead.  Could that have been the case?", "c_root_id_A": "isxidzn", "c_root_id_B": "iswaym7", "created_at_utc_A": 1666184030, "created_at_utc_B": 1666152485, "score_A": 4, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "She was very sick and stopped breathing for a reason. Reviving her, even if it were possible, wouldn't have made that reason go away. You did everything right. I'm so sorry for your loss.", "human_ref_B": "I am not a vet, but by the description in your first paragraph I have to say that you did everything you could. Even if CPR had worked, it sounds like your pup was just at the end. You did great by her and got her all the healthcare you could. Getting chemo for her is more than a lot of people can do for their pets. I\u2019m so sorry for your loss. I hope your sweet baby gets to say hi to my old cat across the rainbow bridge.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 31545.0, "score_ratio": 4.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "y7o5ev", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Did I do the right thing? My dog died while sleeping.  She had stage 5 lymphoma and had gone into remission once but it came back.  She was doing chemo again but it wasn't really helping.  She was about 3 days in without eating and severe nausea.  This is all to provide context.  She was napping on my bed while I was cleaning.  I was cleaning for a while and hadn't checked on her.  I came to check on her and she wasn't breathing.  I tried to wake her but when I looked in her eyes I knew she was dead.  I covered her with a sheet, then a few hours later I called the vet, explained the situation and they said I could bring her down to be cremated.  I am being plagued now by thoughts that I should have tried CPR or got her emergency care immediately and I concluded too quickly she was dead.  Could that have been the case?", "c_root_id_A": "isxoihi", "c_root_id_B": "isvlsw0", "created_at_utc_A": 1666186952, "created_at_utc_B": 1666140487, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I'm so sorry for your loss, but you did nothing wrong. You provided her with the best treatment available, but nothing is ever guaranteed. She is sick and it's probably her time to go. \ud83d\udda4", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 46465.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "y7o5ev", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Did I do the right thing? My dog died while sleeping.  She had stage 5 lymphoma and had gone into remission once but it came back.  She was doing chemo again but it wasn't really helping.  She was about 3 days in without eating and severe nausea.  This is all to provide context.  She was napping on my bed while I was cleaning.  I was cleaning for a while and hadn't checked on her.  I came to check on her and she wasn't breathing.  I tried to wake her but when I looked in her eyes I knew she was dead.  I covered her with a sheet, then a few hours later I called the vet, explained the situation and they said I could bring her down to be cremated.  I am being plagued now by thoughts that I should have tried CPR or got her emergency care immediately and I concluded too quickly she was dead.  Could that have been the case?", "c_root_id_A": "iswaym7", "c_root_id_B": "isxoihi", "created_at_utc_A": 1666152485, "created_at_utc_B": 1666186952, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "I am not a vet, but by the description in your first paragraph I have to say that you did everything you could. Even if CPR had worked, it sounds like your pup was just at the end. You did great by her and got her all the healthcare you could. Getting chemo for her is more than a lot of people can do for their pets. I\u2019m so sorry for your loss. I hope your sweet baby gets to say hi to my old cat across the rainbow bridge.", "human_ref_B": "I'm so sorry for your loss, but you did nothing wrong. You provided her with the best treatment available, but nothing is ever guaranteed. She is sick and it's probably her time to go. \ud83d\udda4", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 34467.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "uq1eu4", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "how to feed 4/5 week old kittens?    kittens about 4/5 week old started to lose weight only about 2 grams. i tried feeding them homemade kitten food made with checked and rice but so far all they do is lick the droplets. they won't eat from the plate directly.  i have fed 4 weeks old kitten before using the same food they normally just start eating from the plate right away but this litter is giving me some trouble any advice?", "c_root_id_A": "i8os8m4", "c_root_id_B": "i8o9dvd", "created_at_utc_A": 1652617316, "created_at_utc_B": 1652602257, "score_A": 12, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Kittens begin to eat solid food at different times. At 4-5 weeks old, I offer mashed canned kitten food with added water but still feed them formula. You can try hand feeding them a bit of the food so they get a taste of it. -RVT and kitten foster mom", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 15059.0, "score_ratio": 12.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "uq1eu4", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "how to feed 4/5 week old kittens?    kittens about 4/5 week old started to lose weight only about 2 grams. i tried feeding them homemade kitten food made with checked and rice but so far all they do is lick the droplets. they won't eat from the plate directly.  i have fed 4 weeks old kitten before using the same food they normally just start eating from the plate right away but this litter is giving me some trouble any advice?", "c_root_id_A": "i8o9dvp", "c_root_id_B": "i8os8m4", "created_at_utc_A": 1652602257, "created_at_utc_B": 1652617316, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 12, "human_ref_A": "Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Kittens begin to eat solid food at different times. At 4-5 weeks old, I offer mashed canned kitten food with added water but still feed them formula. You can try hand feeding them a bit of the food so they get a taste of it. -RVT and kitten foster mom", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 15059.0, "score_ratio": 12.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "8bu2o3", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.85, "history": "The dog I'm fostering doesn't like to play. She just sits and looks at me when she's not eating or on a walk. Is this normal? Species: Dog  Age: 2 1/2 Years  Sex/Neuter status: Unknown  Breed: Retriever X  Body weight: 67lbs  History:  Clinical signs:  Duration:  Your general location: Canada  Links to test results, X-rays, vet reports etc:", "c_root_id_A": "dxbc79w", "c_root_id_B": "dx9z754", "created_at_utc_A": 1523645440, "created_at_utc_B": 1523583179, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Oh man, that\u2019s disappointing. Maybe she\u2019s just not that kind of dog or maybe she needs to learn how to play. Does she socialise with other dogs who play? Can you show her how to play with the toys by demonstrating playing with them yourself?  That being said, since it\u2019s only been a week, it might just be a time thing.", "human_ref_B": "Have you brought her to the vet yet? How long have you had her? For some dogs this is \"normal\" until they trust you/bond with you; this could take a few weeks to a few months depending on her history.   That being said, if she was playful before and this behavior just started happening, take her to the vet.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 62261.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "8bu2o3", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.85, "history": "The dog I'm fostering doesn't like to play. She just sits and looks at me when she's not eating or on a walk. Is this normal? Species: Dog  Age: 2 1/2 Years  Sex/Neuter status: Unknown  Breed: Retriever X  Body weight: 67lbs  History:  Clinical signs:  Duration:  Your general location: Canada  Links to test results, X-rays, vet reports etc:", "c_root_id_A": "dxbc79w", "c_root_id_B": "dxagvn6", "created_at_utc_A": 1523645440, "created_at_utc_B": 1523609558, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Oh man, that\u2019s disappointing. Maybe she\u2019s just not that kind of dog or maybe she needs to learn how to play. Does she socialise with other dogs who play? Can you show her how to play with the toys by demonstrating playing with them yourself?  That being said, since it\u2019s only been a week, it might just be a time thing.", "human_ref_B": "What kind of toys do you have for your dog? Maybe try a few offering a different kinds.  I had to cycle through a few different toys until I discovered this spikey plastic ball that my dog loves.   Also I have a rescue too and it took a few weeks for him to really settle in. But I noticed he was more comfortable after about 3 weeks. Obviously every dog is different but seems like your dog might be still settling in and learning what your deal is. Good luck!", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 35882.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "c9tvn2", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "10 Year Old Male Cat not improving after emergency surgery to remove staple Back in May, I took my nearly 11 year old cat into the vet because he had stopped eating and was acting very out of character (his name is Mischief and he definitely lives up to the name and is a very social and loving cat).  He had emergency surgery to remove a construction staple that had gotten stuck, but then exited his intestines and got stuck in a fat deposit.  After that, he still wouldn't eat and after the vet ran his blood work and x-rays (both sets of xrays were clear); he was put on an appetite stimulant, subcutaneous fluids with a Vitamin B injection, steroids (he developed a deep cough), and de-worming meds because his blood work indicated that he showed signs of a parasite or allergies.  Yesterday, he started the second round of de-wormer and is coming to the end of his steroids and fluids, but he still isn't getting better.   He has dropped over 5lbs in the span of 3 months and I know that the meds are taking a toll on him, but if the vet was correct and the problem is worms, when should I start seeing some kind of improvement?", "c_root_id_A": "et2rwzo", "c_root_id_B": "et2tule", "created_at_utc_A": 1562421601, "created_at_utc_B": 1562422605, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 13, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed.   This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Has he had a thoracic radiograph (X-ray of his chest) since the incident? What did they think was causing his cough?", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 1004.0, "score_ratio": 13.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "c9tvn2", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "10 Year Old Male Cat not improving after emergency surgery to remove staple Back in May, I took my nearly 11 year old cat into the vet because he had stopped eating and was acting very out of character (his name is Mischief and he definitely lives up to the name and is a very social and loving cat).  He had emergency surgery to remove a construction staple that had gotten stuck, but then exited his intestines and got stuck in a fat deposit.  After that, he still wouldn't eat and after the vet ran his blood work and x-rays (both sets of xrays were clear); he was put on an appetite stimulant, subcutaneous fluids with a Vitamin B injection, steroids (he developed a deep cough), and de-worming meds because his blood work indicated that he showed signs of a parasite or allergies.  Yesterday, he started the second round of de-wormer and is coming to the end of his steroids and fluids, but he still isn't getting better.   He has dropped over 5lbs in the span of 3 months and I know that the meds are taking a toll on him, but if the vet was correct and the problem is worms, when should I start seeing some kind of improvement?", "c_root_id_A": "et4ehcv", "c_root_id_B": "et2rwzo", "created_at_utc_A": 1562448773, "created_at_utc_B": 1562421601, "score_A": 7, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Either call the vet back or request to be sent to a specialist if you think you/vet need more help to see what\u2019s going on.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed.   This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 27172.0, "score_ratio": 7.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "zeo90n", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.88, "history": "Is there any way a cat's whiskers could be reduced to stubble without a human being doing it? Species:Cat  Age: 5 years  Sex/Neuter status: Male, neutered  Breed:  Ginger tabby, American short hair  Body weight: @ 14 lbs  History: Once feral, now a love bug, very healthy and has seemed to abandon his wild fightin' ways.   Clinical signs: Cat went out, came running back an hour later, clearly scared, with the whiskers on his left side down to a half inch stubble.  Whiskers on the right side are long and healthy.  I've reported it to the police as a potential crime but both officer and I would like to know the answers to a few questions.  1. Is there any way this could have happened in the span of an hour without the obvious happening: some a-hole took a scissors to my cat?  2. Will they grow back?  Or new ones take their place?  3. Will it affect his balance, sense of space, mobility?  Is he less able to defend himself?  4. Did it hurt him to have this done to him?          Duration: happened in about 1 hour  Your general location: SF Bay Area  Links to test results, X-rays, vet reports etc: n/a", "c_root_id_A": "iz7jou6", "c_root_id_B": "iz8kgd9", "created_at_utc_A": 1670376165, "created_at_utc_B": 1670396021, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Not a vet.  1.\tYes its posible. 2.\tNew ones will grow back with time. 3.\t 4.\tThe cutting didn\u2019t hurt.  By leaving the cat go out, weird people doing this to them is a risk.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 19856.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "zeo90n", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.88, "history": "Is there any way a cat's whiskers could be reduced to stubble without a human being doing it? Species:Cat  Age: 5 years  Sex/Neuter status: Male, neutered  Breed:  Ginger tabby, American short hair  Body weight: @ 14 lbs  History: Once feral, now a love bug, very healthy and has seemed to abandon his wild fightin' ways.   Clinical signs: Cat went out, came running back an hour later, clearly scared, with the whiskers on his left side down to a half inch stubble.  Whiskers on the right side are long and healthy.  I've reported it to the police as a potential crime but both officer and I would like to know the answers to a few questions.  1. Is there any way this could have happened in the span of an hour without the obvious happening: some a-hole took a scissors to my cat?  2. Will they grow back?  Or new ones take their place?  3. Will it affect his balance, sense of space, mobility?  Is he less able to defend himself?  4. Did it hurt him to have this done to him?          Duration: happened in about 1 hour  Your general location: SF Bay Area  Links to test results, X-rays, vet reports etc: n/a", "c_root_id_A": "izazorw", "c_root_id_B": "iz7jou6", "created_at_utc_A": 1670443130, "created_at_utc_B": 1670376165, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Is it possible he got curious around a flame of some kind? I've had the fuzzy bastards burn whickers sniffing a candle.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 66965.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wqpwq3", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d", "c_root_id_A": "iknqpu8", "c_root_id_B": "iknpfa4", "created_at_utc_A": 1660745775, "created_at_utc_B": 1660745245, "score_A": 126, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Honestly there isn't much of a choice here. Even if the eye isn't currently causing systemic infection, it's certainly causing suffering to the kitten. No surgery comes without risk - that sucker's gotta come out.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 530.0, "score_ratio": 126.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wqpwq3", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d", "c_root_id_A": "iknpfa4", "c_root_id_B": "ikplv7o", "created_at_utc_A": 1660745245, "created_at_utc_B": 1660771181, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 113, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Surgery, surrender, or euthanasia.  The only wrong choice here is to do nothing.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 25936.0, "score_ratio": 113.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wqpwq3", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d", "c_root_id_A": "iko7gqo", "c_root_id_B": "iknpfa4", "created_at_utc_A": 1660752307, "created_at_utc_B": 1660745245, "score_A": 54, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "If the eyeball is at the stage of infection that it is rotting and enucleation (removal) surgery is required, there isn't a choice to be had. The kitten is already blind in that eye and leaving it there will risk her life, and while the surgery is risky, all surgeries entail risk. It may be that the vet advises waiting and using antibiotics until she gains some weight. I have known kittens undergo double enucleation at around 2.5 lbs on the same day they are spayed, so that would be something to discuss with the treating vet.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 7062.0, "score_ratio": 54.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wqpwq3", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d", "c_root_id_A": "ikowkd8", "c_root_id_B": "iknpfa4", "created_at_utc_A": 1660761725, "created_at_utc_B": 1660745245, "score_A": 25, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "This is a total no brainer tbh get that eye out and give that baby a chance of living cos if you dont do it she has no chance at all as the infection will kill her slowly and painfully.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 16480.0, "score_ratio": 25.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wqpwq3", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d", "c_root_id_A": "iknpfa4", "c_root_id_B": "ikoje0g", "created_at_utc_A": 1660745245, "created_at_utc_B": 1660756803, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 13, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Let the vet do it, yeah.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 11558.0, "score_ratio": 13.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wqpwq3", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d", "c_root_id_A": "iknpfa4", "c_root_id_B": "ikp2coh", "created_at_utc_A": 1660745245, "created_at_utc_B": 1660763906, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 10, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Take her back and schedule the surgery immediately", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 18661.0, "score_ratio": 10.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wqpwq3", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d", "c_root_id_A": "iknpfa4", "c_root_id_B": "iknyzsr", "created_at_utc_A": 1660745245, "created_at_utc_B": 1660749052, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 8, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Not a vet. But say you get the surgery. And she\u2019s a miracle baby?", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 3807.0, "score_ratio": 8.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wqpwq3", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d", "c_root_id_A": "ikpvrbp", "c_root_id_B": "iknpfa4", "created_at_utc_A": 1660775058, "created_at_utc_B": 1660745245, "score_A": 7, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Surgery or euthanasia", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 29813.0, "score_ratio": 7.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wqpwq3", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d", "c_root_id_A": "iknpfa4", "c_root_id_B": "ikq0hq9", "created_at_utc_A": 1660745245, "created_at_utc_B": 1660777023, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 6, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Surgery has a chance of saving the cat. Skipping surgery does not.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 31778.0, "score_ratio": 6.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wqpwq3", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d", "c_root_id_A": "iknpfa4", "c_root_id_B": "ikqa1wb", "created_at_utc_A": 1660745245, "created_at_utc_B": 1660781162, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 6, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "If you cannot afford the surgery, tell the vet office. They can do the surgery and sell her to someone else, at least she gets to live. Or they can do euthanasia, probably you have to pay but less than surgery. You being honest let's them move forward, and at least the kitten won't continue to be in pain.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 35917.0, "score_ratio": 6.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wqpwq3", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d", "c_root_id_A": "iknpfa4", "c_root_id_B": "ikqdcp8", "created_at_utc_A": 1660745245, "created_at_utc_B": 1660782612, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 4, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "If you can afford it and are willing to take that risk, surgery. If you can't afford or are unwilling to take the risk then either euthanasia or see if you can surrender her to the hospital or a rescue that can potentially do the surgery.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 37367.0, "score_ratio": 4.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wqpwq3", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d", "c_root_id_A": "ikqkpfp", "c_root_id_B": "iknpfa4", "created_at_utc_A": 1660785845, "created_at_utc_B": 1660745245, "score_A": 4, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Even if the kitten died during surgery while under anaesthesia that would be more merciful than letting it suffer a slow, extremely painful death.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 40600.0, "score_ratio": 4.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wqpwq3", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d", "c_root_id_A": "ikq25wi", "c_root_id_B": "iknpfa4", "created_at_utc_A": 1660777742, "created_at_utc_B": 1660745245, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "There is no choice. She dies without surgery. You do the surgery to give her a chance.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 32497.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wqpwq3", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d", "c_root_id_A": "iknpfa4", "c_root_id_B": "ikq43uz", "created_at_utc_A": 1660745245, "created_at_utc_B": 1660778582, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Are you near a veterinary university by any chance? A lot of times they have access to more equipment specialized for very small animals than a regular practice does.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 33337.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wqpwq3", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d", "c_root_id_A": "ikplv7o", "c_root_id_B": "iko7gqo", "created_at_utc_A": 1660771181, "created_at_utc_B": 1660752307, "score_A": 113, "score_B": 54, "human_ref_A": "Surgery, surrender, or euthanasia.  The only wrong choice here is to do nothing.", "human_ref_B": "If the eyeball is at the stage of infection that it is rotting and enucleation (removal) surgery is required, there isn't a choice to be had. The kitten is already blind in that eye and leaving it there will risk her life, and while the surgery is risky, all surgeries entail risk. It may be that the vet advises waiting and using antibiotics until she gains some weight. I have known kittens undergo double enucleation at around 2.5 lbs on the same day they are spayed, so that would be something to discuss with the treating vet.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 18874.0, "score_ratio": 2.0925925926, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wqpwq3", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d", "c_root_id_A": "ikowkd8", "c_root_id_B": "ikplv7o", "created_at_utc_A": 1660761725, "created_at_utc_B": 1660771181, "score_A": 25, "score_B": 113, "human_ref_A": "This is a total no brainer tbh get that eye out and give that baby a chance of living cos if you dont do it she has no chance at all as the infection will kill her slowly and painfully.", "human_ref_B": "Surgery, surrender, or euthanasia.  The only wrong choice here is to do nothing.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 9456.0, "score_ratio": 4.52, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wqpwq3", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d", "c_root_id_A": "ikplv7o", "c_root_id_B": "ikoje0g", "created_at_utc_A": 1660771181, "created_at_utc_B": 1660756803, "score_A": 113, "score_B": 13, "human_ref_A": "Surgery, surrender, or euthanasia.  The only wrong choice here is to do nothing.", "human_ref_B": "Let the vet do it, yeah.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 14378.0, "score_ratio": 8.6923076923, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wqpwq3", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d", "c_root_id_A": "ikplv7o", "c_root_id_B": "ikp2coh", "created_at_utc_A": 1660771181, "created_at_utc_B": 1660763906, "score_A": 113, "score_B": 10, "human_ref_A": "Surgery, surrender, or euthanasia.  The only wrong choice here is to do nothing.", "human_ref_B": "Take her back and schedule the surgery immediately", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 7275.0, "score_ratio": 11.3, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wqpwq3", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d", "c_root_id_A": "iknyzsr", "c_root_id_B": "ikplv7o", "created_at_utc_A": 1660749052, "created_at_utc_B": 1660771181, "score_A": 8, "score_B": 113, "human_ref_A": "Not a vet. But say you get the surgery. And she\u2019s a miracle baby?", "human_ref_B": "Surgery, surrender, or euthanasia.  The only wrong choice here is to do nothing.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 22129.0, "score_ratio": 14.125, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wqpwq3", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d", "c_root_id_A": "iko61wc", "c_root_id_B": "ikplv7o", "created_at_utc_A": 1660751763, "created_at_utc_B": 1660771181, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 113, "human_ref_A": "Not a vet, but if you do not do the surgery she dies anyway so you can only win\u2026", "human_ref_B": "Surgery, surrender, or euthanasia.  The only wrong choice here is to do nothing.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 19418.0, "score_ratio": 113.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wqpwq3", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d", "c_root_id_A": "iko7gqo", "c_root_id_B": "iknyzsr", "created_at_utc_A": 1660752307, "created_at_utc_B": 1660749052, "score_A": 54, "score_B": 8, "human_ref_A": "If the eyeball is at the stage of infection that it is rotting and enucleation (removal) surgery is required, there isn't a choice to be had. The kitten is already blind in that eye and leaving it there will risk her life, and while the surgery is risky, all surgeries entail risk. It may be that the vet advises waiting and using antibiotics until she gains some weight. I have known kittens undergo double enucleation at around 2.5 lbs on the same day they are spayed, so that would be something to discuss with the treating vet.", "human_ref_B": "Not a vet. But say you get the surgery. And she\u2019s a miracle baby?", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 3255.0, "score_ratio": 6.75, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wqpwq3", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d", "c_root_id_A": "iko7gqo", "c_root_id_B": "iko61wc", "created_at_utc_A": 1660752307, "created_at_utc_B": 1660751763, "score_A": 54, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "If the eyeball is at the stage of infection that it is rotting and enucleation (removal) surgery is required, there isn't a choice to be had. The kitten is already blind in that eye and leaving it there will risk her life, and while the surgery is risky, all surgeries entail risk. It may be that the vet advises waiting and using antibiotics until she gains some weight. I have known kittens undergo double enucleation at around 2.5 lbs on the same day they are spayed, so that would be something to discuss with the treating vet.", "human_ref_B": "Not a vet, but if you do not do the surgery she dies anyway so you can only win\u2026", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 544.0, "score_ratio": 54.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wqpwq3", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d", "c_root_id_A": "ikowkd8", "c_root_id_B": "ikoje0g", "created_at_utc_A": 1660761725, "created_at_utc_B": 1660756803, "score_A": 25, "score_B": 13, "human_ref_A": "This is a total no brainer tbh get that eye out and give that baby a chance of living cos if you dont do it she has no chance at all as the infection will kill her slowly and painfully.", "human_ref_B": "Let the vet do it, yeah.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 4922.0, "score_ratio": 1.9230769231, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wqpwq3", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d", "c_root_id_A": "iknyzsr", "c_root_id_B": "ikowkd8", "created_at_utc_A": 1660749052, "created_at_utc_B": 1660761725, "score_A": 8, "score_B": 25, "human_ref_A": "Not a vet. But say you get the surgery. And she\u2019s a miracle baby?", "human_ref_B": "This is a total no brainer tbh get that eye out and give that baby a chance of living cos if you dont do it she has no chance at all as the infection will kill her slowly and painfully.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 12673.0, "score_ratio": 3.125, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wqpwq3", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d", "c_root_id_A": "ikowkd8", "c_root_id_B": "iko61wc", "created_at_utc_A": 1660761725, "created_at_utc_B": 1660751763, "score_A": 25, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "This is a total no brainer tbh get that eye out and give that baby a chance of living cos if you dont do it she has no chance at all as the infection will kill her slowly and painfully.", "human_ref_B": "Not a vet, but if you do not do the surgery she dies anyway so you can only win\u2026", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 9962.0, "score_ratio": 25.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wqpwq3", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d", "c_root_id_A": "ikoje0g", "c_root_id_B": "iknyzsr", "created_at_utc_A": 1660756803, "created_at_utc_B": 1660749052, "score_A": 13, "score_B": 8, "human_ref_A": "Let the vet do it, yeah.", "human_ref_B": "Not a vet. But say you get the surgery. And she\u2019s a miracle baby?", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 7751.0, "score_ratio": 1.625, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wqpwq3", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d", "c_root_id_A": "iko61wc", "c_root_id_B": "ikoje0g", "created_at_utc_A": 1660751763, "created_at_utc_B": 1660756803, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 13, "human_ref_A": "Not a vet, but if you do not do the surgery she dies anyway so you can only win\u2026", "human_ref_B": "Let the vet do it, yeah.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 5040.0, "score_ratio": 13.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wqpwq3", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d", "c_root_id_A": "ikp2coh", "c_root_id_B": "iknyzsr", "created_at_utc_A": 1660763906, "created_at_utc_B": 1660749052, "score_A": 10, "score_B": 8, "human_ref_A": "Take her back and schedule the surgery immediately", "human_ref_B": "Not a vet. But say you get the surgery. And she\u2019s a miracle baby?", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 14854.0, "score_ratio": 1.25, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wqpwq3", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d", "c_root_id_A": "ikp2coh", "c_root_id_B": "iko61wc", "created_at_utc_A": 1660763906, "created_at_utc_B": 1660751763, "score_A": 10, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Take her back and schedule the surgery immediately", "human_ref_B": "Not a vet, but if you do not do the surgery she dies anyway so you can only win\u2026", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 12143.0, "score_ratio": 10.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wqpwq3", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d", "c_root_id_A": "iko61wc", "c_root_id_B": "ikpvrbp", "created_at_utc_A": 1660751763, "created_at_utc_B": 1660775058, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 7, "human_ref_A": "Not a vet, but if you do not do the surgery she dies anyway so you can only win\u2026", "human_ref_B": "Surgery or euthanasia", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 23295.0, "score_ratio": 7.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wqpwq3", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d", "c_root_id_A": "ikq0hq9", "c_root_id_B": "iko61wc", "created_at_utc_A": 1660777023, "created_at_utc_B": 1660751763, "score_A": 6, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Surgery has a chance of saving the cat. Skipping surgery does not.", "human_ref_B": "Not a vet, but if you do not do the surgery she dies anyway so you can only win\u2026", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 25260.0, "score_ratio": 6.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wqpwq3", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d", "c_root_id_A": "ikqa1wb", "c_root_id_B": "ikq25wi", "created_at_utc_A": 1660781162, "created_at_utc_B": 1660777742, "score_A": 6, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "If you cannot afford the surgery, tell the vet office. They can do the surgery and sell her to someone else, at least she gets to live. Or they can do euthanasia, probably you have to pay but less than surgery. You being honest let's them move forward, and at least the kitten won't continue to be in pain.", "human_ref_B": "There is no choice. She dies without surgery. You do the surgery to give her a chance.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 3420.0, "score_ratio": 3.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wqpwq3", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d", "c_root_id_A": "ikqa1wb", "c_root_id_B": "ikq43uz", "created_at_utc_A": 1660781162, "created_at_utc_B": 1660778582, "score_A": 6, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "If you cannot afford the surgery, tell the vet office. They can do the surgery and sell her to someone else, at least she gets to live. Or they can do euthanasia, probably you have to pay but less than surgery. You being honest let's them move forward, and at least the kitten won't continue to be in pain.", "human_ref_B": "Are you near a veterinary university by any chance? A lot of times they have access to more equipment specialized for very small animals than a regular practice does.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 2580.0, "score_ratio": 3.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wqpwq3", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d", "c_root_id_A": "ikqa1wb", "c_root_id_B": "iko61wc", "created_at_utc_A": 1660781162, "created_at_utc_B": 1660751763, "score_A": 6, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "If you cannot afford the surgery, tell the vet office. They can do the surgery and sell her to someone else, at least she gets to live. Or they can do euthanasia, probably you have to pay but less than surgery. You being honest let's them move forward, and at least the kitten won't continue to be in pain.", "human_ref_B": "Not a vet, but if you do not do the surgery she dies anyway so you can only win\u2026", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 29399.0, "score_ratio": 6.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wqpwq3", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d", "c_root_id_A": "ikq25wi", "c_root_id_B": "ikqdcp8", "created_at_utc_A": 1660777742, "created_at_utc_B": 1660782612, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 4, "human_ref_A": "There is no choice. She dies without surgery. You do the surgery to give her a chance.", "human_ref_B": "If you can afford it and are willing to take that risk, surgery. If you can't afford or are unwilling to take the risk then either euthanasia or see if you can surrender her to the hospital or a rescue that can potentially do the surgery.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 4870.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wqpwq3", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d", "c_root_id_A": "ikqdcp8", "c_root_id_B": "ikq43uz", "created_at_utc_A": 1660782612, "created_at_utc_B": 1660778582, "score_A": 4, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "If you can afford it and are willing to take that risk, surgery. If you can't afford or are unwilling to take the risk then either euthanasia or see if you can surrender her to the hospital or a rescue that can potentially do the surgery.", "human_ref_B": "Are you near a veterinary university by any chance? A lot of times they have access to more equipment specialized for very small animals than a regular practice does.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 4030.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wqpwq3", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d", "c_root_id_A": "ikqdcp8", "c_root_id_B": "iko61wc", "created_at_utc_A": 1660782612, "created_at_utc_B": 1660751763, "score_A": 4, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "If you can afford it and are willing to take that risk, surgery. If you can't afford or are unwilling to take the risk then either euthanasia or see if you can surrender her to the hospital or a rescue that can potentially do the surgery.", "human_ref_B": "Not a vet, but if you do not do the surgery she dies anyway so you can only win\u2026", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 30849.0, "score_ratio": 4.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wqpwq3", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d", "c_root_id_A": "ikq25wi", "c_root_id_B": "ikqkpfp", "created_at_utc_A": 1660777742, "created_at_utc_B": 1660785845, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 4, "human_ref_A": "There is no choice. She dies without surgery. You do the surgery to give her a chance.", "human_ref_B": "Even if the kitten died during surgery while under anaesthesia that would be more merciful than letting it suffer a slow, extremely painful death.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 8103.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wqpwq3", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d", "c_root_id_A": "ikqkpfp", "c_root_id_B": "ikq43uz", "created_at_utc_A": 1660785845, "created_at_utc_B": 1660778582, "score_A": 4, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "Even if the kitten died during surgery while under anaesthesia that would be more merciful than letting it suffer a slow, extremely painful death.", "human_ref_B": "Are you near a veterinary university by any chance? A lot of times they have access to more equipment specialized for very small animals than a regular practice does.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 7263.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wqpwq3", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d", "c_root_id_A": "ikqkpfp", "c_root_id_B": "iko61wc", "created_at_utc_A": 1660785845, "created_at_utc_B": 1660751763, "score_A": 4, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Even if the kitten died during surgery while under anaesthesia that would be more merciful than letting it suffer a slow, extremely painful death.", "human_ref_B": "Not a vet, but if you do not do the surgery she dies anyway so you can only win\u2026", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 34082.0, "score_ratio": 4.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wqpwq3", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d", "c_root_id_A": "ikq25wi", "c_root_id_B": "iko61wc", "created_at_utc_A": 1660777742, "created_at_utc_B": 1660751763, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "There is no choice. She dies without surgery. You do the surgery to give her a chance.", "human_ref_B": "Not a vet, but if you do not do the surgery she dies anyway so you can only win\u2026", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 25979.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "wqpwq3", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "Kitten, 300g, 1 month old, 1 eye rotting A kitten was born inside our lawn and one of its eye is rotting. Not sure of gender but I'll refer the kitten as \"her\" here. Brought her to the vet and doctor says she'll need surgery but they can't guarantee survival as she is only kitten and below 1kg. Doctor says if left untreated, it can cause her death when infection spreads. Either choice can cause her life \ud83d\ude2d If you were in my shoes, what would you do? \ud83d\ude2d", "c_root_id_A": "ikq43uz", "c_root_id_B": "iko61wc", "created_at_utc_A": 1660778582, "created_at_utc_B": 1660751763, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Are you near a veterinary university by any chance? A lot of times they have access to more equipment specialized for very small animals than a regular practice does.", "human_ref_B": "Not a vet, but if you do not do the surgery she dies anyway so you can only win\u2026", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 26819.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "ezlb5l", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "My 11 month old cat will occasionally grab my arm or hand and lick me profusely while I rub his belly or stroke him, is this a sign I should stop or slow down? Usually after a minute or two he\u2019ll let me pet him again but I wanted to know if I was bothering him or overstimulating", "c_root_id_A": "fgnzlvn", "c_root_id_B": "fgnzlwh", "created_at_utc_A": 1580956407, "created_at_utc_B": 1580956407, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 0, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed.   This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 0.0, "score_ratio": 1000.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "oucd7u", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "My 4 year old dog just woke up from a nap and started twitching every few seconds, is super out of it, and can hardly walk (off balance and lifting back legs weirdly). Pretty much the title. It's too late at night to take him to the vet right now so I figured I would post here for now.   He was completely normal all day long, ate a good dinner, played, etc. Nothing new was added to his diet and he hasn't gotten into anything.   He just woke up from a nap and was twitching in his face and sort of licking at nothing. First thought was a seizure obviously. Now he is sleeping again but he randomly wakes up twitching and acting super out of it. He is also acting like he has very little balance like he has vertigo or something. When he went to walk he lifted his back legs strangely, almost like he had socks/shoes on his back feet for the first time. He also for a moment coughed/gagged on phlem and was breathing pretty heavy...  He is back asleep now but I'm obviously worried. I'm taking him to the vet first thing in the morning if he isn't better but has anyone else experienced this?  My first thought is seizure but its been going on for about an hour or so now...", "c_root_id_A": "h71f10p", "c_root_id_B": "h71ge93", "created_at_utc_A": 1627614102, "created_at_utc_B": 1627614818, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 5, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "These symptoms 100% call for a visit to the 24 hour ER.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 716.0, "score_ratio": 5.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "v2wzyl", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.91, "history": "Nose sores? Seen vet and changed food https://imgur.com/a/KNbEjkX  My cat is 2 years old. I got him at 8 months. He had no nose sores but had GI issues and loose stools.   We put him on hills W/D diet and his stomach issues improved.   Then a year ago he started to have nose sores. The vet did biopsy it was negative. They come and go but are very bad right now.   2 months ago I put a ceresto cat collar on and they seemed worse so I took it off this week. But since they were before that it can\u2019t be the cause.   He has been eating hydrolised Royal canine treats but they stopped making them so he has had lots of non chicken treats since.  The vet thought he might be allergic to chicken.   Now he is on the ZD and DD Hills hydrolise diet for a week. but it\u2019s not helping and seems worse.   He is itchy in general. His coat is not shiny anymore. He does not scratch his nose. He\u2019s not in a kennel and rubbing it. The vet wants to try steroids.   This poor cat please help.     https://imgur.com/a/KNbEjkX", "c_root_id_A": "iav7r2a", "c_root_id_B": "iauxbbg", "created_at_utc_A": 1654137583, "created_at_utc_B": 1654132467, "score_A": 9, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Was it a tissue biopsy or something like a dermatophyte culture, or fungal/bacterial culture? If he's been seeing a GP then your next step is a dermatologist. Skin stuff is the pits, sorry about your itchy friend", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 5116.0, "score_ratio": 9.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "6x083z", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "CPR in animals, couple of questions. Hey /r/AskVet/  I'm sure many of you have seen the dog being resuscitated on /r/videos and now I've a couple of questions.  I've lost track on the number of times I've renewed my first aid license and one thing they've hammered home is how unlikely CPR will restart a heart. Contacting emergency services gets priority, but having someone source and retrieve an emergency defibrillator is almost as important.  1. Would an emergency defibrillator (designed for humans) work on large pets? Small pets?  2. Is CPR also unlikely to restart an animal heart similar to human hearts with chest compressions?  Cheers for any info", "c_root_id_A": "dmc2rju", "c_root_id_B": "dmc2v63", "created_at_utc_A": 1504111343, "created_at_utc_B": 1504111445, "score_A": 8, "score_B": 13, "human_ref_A": "1. Not unless you know where to put the electrodes. 2. Yes. Veterinary CPR has ever worse success rates than the human variant.", "human_ref_B": "That man likely had zero to do with the dog living or not. That isn't even close to small animal CPR performed correctly.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 102.0, "score_ratio": 1.625, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "6x083z", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "CPR in animals, couple of questions. Hey /r/AskVet/  I'm sure many of you have seen the dog being resuscitated on /r/videos and now I've a couple of questions.  I've lost track on the number of times I've renewed my first aid license and one thing they've hammered home is how unlikely CPR will restart a heart. Contacting emergency services gets priority, but having someone source and retrieve an emergency defibrillator is almost as important.  1. Would an emergency defibrillator (designed for humans) work on large pets? Small pets?  2. Is CPR also unlikely to restart an animal heart similar to human hearts with chest compressions?  Cheers for any info", "c_root_id_A": "dmd2hdc", "c_root_id_B": "dmc4l1r", "created_at_utc_A": 1504153729, "created_at_utc_B": 1504113205, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "The only reason to use a defibrillator is if the pet has ventricular fibrillation or pulseless vtach which are pretty rare. Otherwise it won't help.  CPR had miserable success rates of <20% I believe. If they are in surgery and already intubated, it's better (slightly).", "human_ref_B": "Plus, isn't there the risk of setting an animal on fire with a defibrillator, or am I confusing that with something else?", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 40524.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "rmif97", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Kitten passed away waking up from anesthesia from neuter surgery. More likely to be from underlying health issue, or other cause (anesthetics reaction, etc.)? Species: Feline  Age: 6.5 m.o  Sex/Neuter status: Was intact before surgery. Surgery was completed successfully until waking up period.  Breed: DSH  Body weight: 8.5lbs  History: Nothing of note. We adopted him with his brother when they were 8 weeks old - they had been born in an apartment from a mother who was indoor but got out and got pregnant. Finished vaccinations in late October/early November (FVRCP and Rabies. Neg for FeLV/FIV). He was a pound lighter than his brother - seemed to eat fine, just seems his brother over eats. Pre-op BW was WNL (will discuss below).    Clinical signs: Pre-op meds and procedure went well with nothing of note. Technician monitored him for waking up. When checking gums/tongue (a few minutes after surgery), they were blue. They began oxygen and CPR, ended up intubating him, nothing succeeded. Attempted resuscitation ~10min. Techs stated that he simply appeared blue, then just wouldn't wake up.   Duration: n/a  Your general location: Southwestern US  Links to test results, X-rays, vet reports etc: No links, but the vet (whom I worked with for 6 months as a receptionist before leaving the practice) noted everything was within normal range, the exception being either BUN or ALP (I know it was a 3 letter acronym and not related to blood cell counts, can't remember which - I know it can be a significant difference) was minimally on the low range, but he said that can be common in kittens and seen as insignificant.   ~  My kitten went in to get neutered today. Unfortunately he passed away. I worked as a kennel tech and receptionist in clinics for ~8 years, so I know things happen and it's not always error on part of the vets or techs. I also know a variety of things could cause this: underlying conditions, reactions to anesthesia, etc.   I'm wondering if it's more likely the kitten had an underlying illness or genetic abnormality, had some sort of a reaction to meds (although since he was fine with pre-op meds and anesthesia, I was assuming this is less likely?), or other possibilities.  We weren't interested in a necropsy - we chose private cremation. My partner and I considered the possibility that there was negligence on the part of someone involved, but I don't believe there would be - everyone there truly cares for animals, the vet was visibly upset at the situation, and I know the tech that was in charge of monitoring his vitals is very experienced and good at it, as I've worked with her. During the short time I worked there, I only ever witnessed two incidents during surgeries - both reactions to anesthesia - and no deaths during or following them. I'm also very curious to opinions/speculations since I've never really heard of or been around pets who have passed away when waking up from surgery.  His brother was there and was also scheduled for neuter, but we chose to bring him home instead of proceeding. We likely won't take him back to the same facility for surgery, just because I don't want the staff to feel guilty if this happens again, in case there's some genetic or underlying reason for this. (I'm planning on getting him neutered still, unless another vet [see next paragraph] determines there is an issue that'd put him at high risk of death during or following surgery.) They've been caring for all four of my cats from the time I started working there til present, and I'm currently planning on continuing this - I'm just not looking into surgery with them.   I'm in contact with a vet I used to work with at a previous facility to see if she has insight or would be willing to see the brother and do the neuter, in case she has other perspectives, especially since she likes specializing more in cats.   Thanks in advance for any input.  *Edited to add: I had four cats, now three. The other two not mentioned here are neutered males, FeLV/FIV negative, but likely do have feline herpes. Kittens were quarantined from adults until they had began their shots (was a total of 2 weeks, shots began during this period).", "c_root_id_A": "hpmflv9", "c_root_id_B": "hpp1adb", "created_at_utc_A": 1640217826, "created_at_utc_B": 1640275252, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 3, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Unfortunately, the only chance of getting an answer is a necropsy. Thank you for having a logical head on your shoulders and not immediately villainizing the veterinarian.  I hope your other kitten does well with no issues, and have a happy holiday season!", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 57426.0, "score_ratio": 3.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "ukhx1j", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.9, "history": "Is There Anything I Can Give My Mom's 9lbs, ~16-18 Year Old Cairn Terrier For Sudden Diarrhea? My mom's Cairn, Toto, just started having diarrhea all over the carpet. I put him outside for the time being but I've got a doctor's appointment I absolutely can not miss today. Is there anything otc I can give him to help his stomach chill out while I go deal with my doctor?", "c_root_id_A": "i7p5bbb", "c_root_id_B": "i7p9w72", "created_at_utc_A": 1651943885, "created_at_utc_B": 1651945906, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 15, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "DO NOT DO A STARVE DAY.  In most gastroenteritis cases it is self limiting (will resolve given time) IF the pet is still eating, drinking, acting normally, and there is no blood in the diarrhea.  Ideally feed small amounts of an easily digestible low fat diet frequently. Boiled unseasoned plain chicken and rice mixed in a 2/3 white rice with 1/3 chicken is a good ratio. Ensure water is available at all times. Go for frequent walks to allow diarrhea to be cleared. See you vet if vomiting develops, pet refuses to eat, diarrhea does not improve, or extreme lethargy develops.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 2021.0, "score_ratio": 15.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "ukhx1j", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.9, "history": "Is There Anything I Can Give My Mom's 9lbs, ~16-18 Year Old Cairn Terrier For Sudden Diarrhea? My mom's Cairn, Toto, just started having diarrhea all over the carpet. I put him outside for the time being but I've got a doctor's appointment I absolutely can not miss today. Is there anything otc I can give him to help his stomach chill out while I go deal with my doctor?", "c_root_id_A": "i7p9w72", "c_root_id_B": "i7p5bca", "created_at_utc_A": 1651945906, "created_at_utc_B": 1651943885, "score_A": 15, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "DO NOT DO A STARVE DAY.  In most gastroenteritis cases it is self limiting (will resolve given time) IF the pet is still eating, drinking, acting normally, and there is no blood in the diarrhea.  Ideally feed small amounts of an easily digestible low fat diet frequently. Boiled unseasoned plain chicken and rice mixed in a 2/3 white rice with 1/3 chicken is a good ratio. Ensure water is available at all times. Go for frequent walks to allow diarrhea to be cleared. See you vet if vomiting develops, pet refuses to eat, diarrhea does not improve, or extreme lethargy develops.", "human_ref_B": "Hi, it looks like you did not include the information we require in the side bar. Having this information is very important for us to be able to give accurate advice. **Please copy the points below and edit your post to include the answers**:  * Species: * Age: * Sex/Neuter status: * Breed: * Body weight: * History: * Clinical signs: * Duration: * Your general location: * Links to any test results, X-rays, vet reports etc. that you have:  If your post already includes this information please disregard this message.  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 2021.0, "score_ratio": 15.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "bj1dci", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.96, "history": "Please help. My cat is pushing me to the edge Every single night between 12 and 1 am my cat starts banging on doors, mostly our bedroom door. It doesn\u2019t matter whether it is open or closed. He will even come in, push the door closed, and continue to bang on it all night long. I literally mean he will do this from midnight until I finally drag myself out of bed, often at 2 or 3 am. He will easily go until 5 or 6 am if we didn\u2019t get up. I\u2019m exhausted. I have chronic illnesses and the lack of sleep is making me worse. My husband and I both work long hours at jobs we need to be able to be alert and focused.    I don\u2019t know what to do. We have tried putting him in his cat carrier when he does it, but he started peeing on himself when I did that so I had to bathe him and clean the carrier every morning. I cannot leave him food out overnight because he is diabetic.  I love my cat and would never get rid of him but I\u2019m at my wits end here. I cannot continue to go like this because the lack of sleep is making me so ill. He has done this for a long time now but it has increasingly gotten worse to the point that if I let him he would go nonstop for more than 5 hours. I can\u2019t work like this, I can\u2019t function like this.   We tried sticky tape on the door, no help. We try getting up and constantly removing him away from the door but that keeps both of us awake and he just turns around and comes right back. We tried a spritz of water, it just made him angry.   Please help, I really don\u2019t know what to do.  Edit: I should also add he is a 20 pound Mane Coone so you can only imagine what it sounds like with that banging and knocking against a door all night long", "c_root_id_A": "em4lv4t", "c_root_id_B": "em4k3jj", "created_at_utc_A": 1556620000, "created_at_utc_B": 1556617183, "score_A": 42, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Look into an indoor cattery and catio.  His carrier is probably way too small of a space for him.  He needs to be able to have separate play, eating, and potty areas.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed.   This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 2817.0, "score_ratio": 42.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "bj1dci", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.96, "history": "Please help. My cat is pushing me to the edge Every single night between 12 and 1 am my cat starts banging on doors, mostly our bedroom door. It doesn\u2019t matter whether it is open or closed. He will even come in, push the door closed, and continue to bang on it all night long. I literally mean he will do this from midnight until I finally drag myself out of bed, often at 2 or 3 am. He will easily go until 5 or 6 am if we didn\u2019t get up. I\u2019m exhausted. I have chronic illnesses and the lack of sleep is making me worse. My husband and I both work long hours at jobs we need to be able to be alert and focused.    I don\u2019t know what to do. We have tried putting him in his cat carrier when he does it, but he started peeing on himself when I did that so I had to bathe him and clean the carrier every morning. I cannot leave him food out overnight because he is diabetic.  I love my cat and would never get rid of him but I\u2019m at my wits end here. I cannot continue to go like this because the lack of sleep is making me so ill. He has done this for a long time now but it has increasingly gotten worse to the point that if I let him he would go nonstop for more than 5 hours. I can\u2019t work like this, I can\u2019t function like this.   We tried sticky tape on the door, no help. We try getting up and constantly removing him away from the door but that keeps both of us awake and he just turns around and comes right back. We tried a spritz of water, it just made him angry.   Please help, I really don\u2019t know what to do.  Edit: I should also add he is a 20 pound Mane Coone so you can only imagine what it sounds like with that banging and knocking against a door all night long", "c_root_id_A": "em55aon", "c_root_id_B": "em53urd", "created_at_utc_A": 1556636751, "created_at_utc_B": 1556635810, "score_A": 26, "score_B": 17, "human_ref_A": "Even more important than getting him to stop this behavior, is giving him something to to *instead*. So, instead of \"stop this,\" it becomes \"try [fun thing] instead.\" Since he is diabetic, food toys are out of the question, like you said. If you were to put some feliway diffusers up, and maybe add a few stimulating toys in a central location, little things like this may add up to reduce this behavior.", "human_ref_B": "Correcting his behavior is going to be best long term but because of the lack of sleep, you might have to make adjustments to the environment for a quick fix instead.   Have you tried door stoppers?   IKEA has stoppers that will pretty much lock a door in its place.  I can\u2019t imagine even a 20lb cat could move it once the stopper is in place but I guess it would depend on your doors.  I\u2019d start with that and add more activity to his nightly routine.  It probably wouldn\u2019t hurt to add some interactive toys for him to play with during the night, too.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 941.0, "score_ratio": 1.5294117647, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "bj1dci", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.96, "history": "Please help. My cat is pushing me to the edge Every single night between 12 and 1 am my cat starts banging on doors, mostly our bedroom door. It doesn\u2019t matter whether it is open or closed. He will even come in, push the door closed, and continue to bang on it all night long. I literally mean he will do this from midnight until I finally drag myself out of bed, often at 2 or 3 am. He will easily go until 5 or 6 am if we didn\u2019t get up. I\u2019m exhausted. I have chronic illnesses and the lack of sleep is making me worse. My husband and I both work long hours at jobs we need to be able to be alert and focused.    I don\u2019t know what to do. We have tried putting him in his cat carrier when he does it, but he started peeing on himself when I did that so I had to bathe him and clean the carrier every morning. I cannot leave him food out overnight because he is diabetic.  I love my cat and would never get rid of him but I\u2019m at my wits end here. I cannot continue to go like this because the lack of sleep is making me so ill. He has done this for a long time now but it has increasingly gotten worse to the point that if I let him he would go nonstop for more than 5 hours. I can\u2019t work like this, I can\u2019t function like this.   We tried sticky tape on the door, no help. We try getting up and constantly removing him away from the door but that keeps both of us awake and he just turns around and comes right back. We tried a spritz of water, it just made him angry.   Please help, I really don\u2019t know what to do.  Edit: I should also add he is a 20 pound Mane Coone so you can only imagine what it sounds like with that banging and knocking against a door all night long", "c_root_id_A": "em55aon", "c_root_id_B": "em4mem7", "created_at_utc_A": 1556636751, "created_at_utc_B": 1556620767, "score_A": 26, "score_B": 14, "human_ref_A": "Even more important than getting him to stop this behavior, is giving him something to to *instead*. So, instead of \"stop this,\" it becomes \"try [fun thing] instead.\" Since he is diabetic, food toys are out of the question, like you said. If you were to put some feliway diffusers up, and maybe add a few stimulating toys in a central location, little things like this may add up to reduce this behavior.", "human_ref_B": "Not a veterinary solution but, can you just remove your doors?", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 15984.0, "score_ratio": 1.8571428571, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "bj1dci", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.96, "history": "Please help. My cat is pushing me to the edge Every single night between 12 and 1 am my cat starts banging on doors, mostly our bedroom door. It doesn\u2019t matter whether it is open or closed. He will even come in, push the door closed, and continue to bang on it all night long. I literally mean he will do this from midnight until I finally drag myself out of bed, often at 2 or 3 am. He will easily go until 5 or 6 am if we didn\u2019t get up. I\u2019m exhausted. I have chronic illnesses and the lack of sleep is making me worse. My husband and I both work long hours at jobs we need to be able to be alert and focused.    I don\u2019t know what to do. We have tried putting him in his cat carrier when he does it, but he started peeing on himself when I did that so I had to bathe him and clean the carrier every morning. I cannot leave him food out overnight because he is diabetic.  I love my cat and would never get rid of him but I\u2019m at my wits end here. I cannot continue to go like this because the lack of sleep is making me so ill. He has done this for a long time now but it has increasingly gotten worse to the point that if I let him he would go nonstop for more than 5 hours. I can\u2019t work like this, I can\u2019t function like this.   We tried sticky tape on the door, no help. We try getting up and constantly removing him away from the door but that keeps both of us awake and he just turns around and comes right back. We tried a spritz of water, it just made him angry.   Please help, I really don\u2019t know what to do.  Edit: I should also add he is a 20 pound Mane Coone so you can only imagine what it sounds like with that banging and knocking against a door all night long", "c_root_id_A": "em55aon", "c_root_id_B": "em4nbly", "created_at_utc_A": 1556636751, "created_at_utc_B": 1556621954, "score_A": 26, "score_B": 3, "human_ref_A": "Even more important than getting him to stop this behavior, is giving him something to to *instead*. So, instead of \"stop this,\" it becomes \"try [fun thing] instead.\" Since he is diabetic, food toys are out of the question, like you said. If you were to put some feliway diffusers up, and maybe add a few stimulating toys in a central location, little things like this may add up to reduce this behavior.", "human_ref_B": "Do you know roughly what triggered this behaviour?", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 14797.0, "score_ratio": 8.6666666667, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "bj1dci", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.96, "history": "Please help. My cat is pushing me to the edge Every single night between 12 and 1 am my cat starts banging on doors, mostly our bedroom door. It doesn\u2019t matter whether it is open or closed. He will even come in, push the door closed, and continue to bang on it all night long. I literally mean he will do this from midnight until I finally drag myself out of bed, often at 2 or 3 am. He will easily go until 5 or 6 am if we didn\u2019t get up. I\u2019m exhausted. I have chronic illnesses and the lack of sleep is making me worse. My husband and I both work long hours at jobs we need to be able to be alert and focused.    I don\u2019t know what to do. We have tried putting him in his cat carrier when he does it, but he started peeing on himself when I did that so I had to bathe him and clean the carrier every morning. I cannot leave him food out overnight because he is diabetic.  I love my cat and would never get rid of him but I\u2019m at my wits end here. I cannot continue to go like this because the lack of sleep is making me so ill. He has done this for a long time now but it has increasingly gotten worse to the point that if I let him he would go nonstop for more than 5 hours. I can\u2019t work like this, I can\u2019t function like this.   We tried sticky tape on the door, no help. We try getting up and constantly removing him away from the door but that keeps both of us awake and he just turns around and comes right back. We tried a spritz of water, it just made him angry.   Please help, I really don\u2019t know what to do.  Edit: I should also add he is a 20 pound Mane Coone so you can only imagine what it sounds like with that banging and knocking against a door all night long", "c_root_id_A": "em4k3jj", "c_root_id_B": "em55aon", "created_at_utc_A": 1556617183, "created_at_utc_B": 1556636751, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 26, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed.   This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Even more important than getting him to stop this behavior, is giving him something to to *instead*. So, instead of \"stop this,\" it becomes \"try [fun thing] instead.\" Since he is diabetic, food toys are out of the question, like you said. If you were to put some feliway diffusers up, and maybe add a few stimulating toys in a central location, little things like this may add up to reduce this behavior.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 19568.0, "score_ratio": 26.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "bj1dci", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.96, "history": "Please help. My cat is pushing me to the edge Every single night between 12 and 1 am my cat starts banging on doors, mostly our bedroom door. It doesn\u2019t matter whether it is open or closed. He will even come in, push the door closed, and continue to bang on it all night long. I literally mean he will do this from midnight until I finally drag myself out of bed, often at 2 or 3 am. He will easily go until 5 or 6 am if we didn\u2019t get up. I\u2019m exhausted. I have chronic illnesses and the lack of sleep is making me worse. My husband and I both work long hours at jobs we need to be able to be alert and focused.    I don\u2019t know what to do. We have tried putting him in his cat carrier when he does it, but he started peeing on himself when I did that so I had to bathe him and clean the carrier every morning. I cannot leave him food out overnight because he is diabetic.  I love my cat and would never get rid of him but I\u2019m at my wits end here. I cannot continue to go like this because the lack of sleep is making me so ill. He has done this for a long time now but it has increasingly gotten worse to the point that if I let him he would go nonstop for more than 5 hours. I can\u2019t work like this, I can\u2019t function like this.   We tried sticky tape on the door, no help. We try getting up and constantly removing him away from the door but that keeps both of us awake and he just turns around and comes right back. We tried a spritz of water, it just made him angry.   Please help, I really don\u2019t know what to do.  Edit: I should also add he is a 20 pound Mane Coone so you can only imagine what it sounds like with that banging and knocking against a door all night long", "c_root_id_A": "em53urd", "c_root_id_B": "em4mem7", "created_at_utc_A": 1556635810, "created_at_utc_B": 1556620767, "score_A": 17, "score_B": 14, "human_ref_A": "Correcting his behavior is going to be best long term but because of the lack of sleep, you might have to make adjustments to the environment for a quick fix instead.   Have you tried door stoppers?   IKEA has stoppers that will pretty much lock a door in its place.  I can\u2019t imagine even a 20lb cat could move it once the stopper is in place but I guess it would depend on your doors.  I\u2019d start with that and add more activity to his nightly routine.  It probably wouldn\u2019t hurt to add some interactive toys for him to play with during the night, too.", "human_ref_B": "Not a veterinary solution but, can you just remove your doors?", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 15043.0, "score_ratio": 1.2142857143, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "bj1dci", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.96, "history": "Please help. My cat is pushing me to the edge Every single night between 12 and 1 am my cat starts banging on doors, mostly our bedroom door. It doesn\u2019t matter whether it is open or closed. He will even come in, push the door closed, and continue to bang on it all night long. I literally mean he will do this from midnight until I finally drag myself out of bed, often at 2 or 3 am. He will easily go until 5 or 6 am if we didn\u2019t get up. I\u2019m exhausted. I have chronic illnesses and the lack of sleep is making me worse. My husband and I both work long hours at jobs we need to be able to be alert and focused.    I don\u2019t know what to do. We have tried putting him in his cat carrier when he does it, but he started peeing on himself when I did that so I had to bathe him and clean the carrier every morning. I cannot leave him food out overnight because he is diabetic.  I love my cat and would never get rid of him but I\u2019m at my wits end here. I cannot continue to go like this because the lack of sleep is making me so ill. He has done this for a long time now but it has increasingly gotten worse to the point that if I let him he would go nonstop for more than 5 hours. I can\u2019t work like this, I can\u2019t function like this.   We tried sticky tape on the door, no help. We try getting up and constantly removing him away from the door but that keeps both of us awake and he just turns around and comes right back. We tried a spritz of water, it just made him angry.   Please help, I really don\u2019t know what to do.  Edit: I should also add he is a 20 pound Mane Coone so you can only imagine what it sounds like with that banging and knocking against a door all night long", "c_root_id_A": "em53urd", "c_root_id_B": "em4nbly", "created_at_utc_A": 1556635810, "created_at_utc_B": 1556621954, "score_A": 17, "score_B": 3, "human_ref_A": "Correcting his behavior is going to be best long term but because of the lack of sleep, you might have to make adjustments to the environment for a quick fix instead.   Have you tried door stoppers?   IKEA has stoppers that will pretty much lock a door in its place.  I can\u2019t imagine even a 20lb cat could move it once the stopper is in place but I guess it would depend on your doors.  I\u2019d start with that and add more activity to his nightly routine.  It probably wouldn\u2019t hurt to add some interactive toys for him to play with during the night, too.", "human_ref_B": "Do you know roughly what triggered this behaviour?", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 13856.0, "score_ratio": 5.6666666667, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "bj1dci", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.96, "history": "Please help. My cat is pushing me to the edge Every single night between 12 and 1 am my cat starts banging on doors, mostly our bedroom door. It doesn\u2019t matter whether it is open or closed. He will even come in, push the door closed, and continue to bang on it all night long. I literally mean he will do this from midnight until I finally drag myself out of bed, often at 2 or 3 am. He will easily go until 5 or 6 am if we didn\u2019t get up. I\u2019m exhausted. I have chronic illnesses and the lack of sleep is making me worse. My husband and I both work long hours at jobs we need to be able to be alert and focused.    I don\u2019t know what to do. We have tried putting him in his cat carrier when he does it, but he started peeing on himself when I did that so I had to bathe him and clean the carrier every morning. I cannot leave him food out overnight because he is diabetic.  I love my cat and would never get rid of him but I\u2019m at my wits end here. I cannot continue to go like this because the lack of sleep is making me so ill. He has done this for a long time now but it has increasingly gotten worse to the point that if I let him he would go nonstop for more than 5 hours. I can\u2019t work like this, I can\u2019t function like this.   We tried sticky tape on the door, no help. We try getting up and constantly removing him away from the door but that keeps both of us awake and he just turns around and comes right back. We tried a spritz of water, it just made him angry.   Please help, I really don\u2019t know what to do.  Edit: I should also add he is a 20 pound Mane Coone so you can only imagine what it sounds like with that banging and knocking against a door all night long", "c_root_id_A": "em53urd", "c_root_id_B": "em4k3jj", "created_at_utc_A": 1556635810, "created_at_utc_B": 1556617183, "score_A": 17, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Correcting his behavior is going to be best long term but because of the lack of sleep, you might have to make adjustments to the environment for a quick fix instead.   Have you tried door stoppers?   IKEA has stoppers that will pretty much lock a door in its place.  I can\u2019t imagine even a 20lb cat could move it once the stopper is in place but I guess it would depend on your doors.  I\u2019d start with that and add more activity to his nightly routine.  It probably wouldn\u2019t hurt to add some interactive toys for him to play with during the night, too.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed.   This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 18627.0, "score_ratio": 17.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "bj1dci", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.96, "history": "Please help. My cat is pushing me to the edge Every single night between 12 and 1 am my cat starts banging on doors, mostly our bedroom door. It doesn\u2019t matter whether it is open or closed. He will even come in, push the door closed, and continue to bang on it all night long. I literally mean he will do this from midnight until I finally drag myself out of bed, often at 2 or 3 am. He will easily go until 5 or 6 am if we didn\u2019t get up. I\u2019m exhausted. I have chronic illnesses and the lack of sleep is making me worse. My husband and I both work long hours at jobs we need to be able to be alert and focused.    I don\u2019t know what to do. We have tried putting him in his cat carrier when he does it, but he started peeing on himself when I did that so I had to bathe him and clean the carrier every morning. I cannot leave him food out overnight because he is diabetic.  I love my cat and would never get rid of him but I\u2019m at my wits end here. I cannot continue to go like this because the lack of sleep is making me so ill. He has done this for a long time now but it has increasingly gotten worse to the point that if I let him he would go nonstop for more than 5 hours. I can\u2019t work like this, I can\u2019t function like this.   We tried sticky tape on the door, no help. We try getting up and constantly removing him away from the door but that keeps both of us awake and he just turns around and comes right back. We tried a spritz of water, it just made him angry.   Please help, I really don\u2019t know what to do.  Edit: I should also add he is a 20 pound Mane Coone so you can only imagine what it sounds like with that banging and knocking against a door all night long", "c_root_id_A": "em4mem7", "c_root_id_B": "em4k3jj", "created_at_utc_A": 1556620767, "created_at_utc_B": 1556617183, "score_A": 14, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Not a veterinary solution but, can you just remove your doors?", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed.   This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 3584.0, "score_ratio": 14.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "bj1dci", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.96, "history": "Please help. My cat is pushing me to the edge Every single night between 12 and 1 am my cat starts banging on doors, mostly our bedroom door. It doesn\u2019t matter whether it is open or closed. He will even come in, push the door closed, and continue to bang on it all night long. I literally mean he will do this from midnight until I finally drag myself out of bed, often at 2 or 3 am. He will easily go until 5 or 6 am if we didn\u2019t get up. I\u2019m exhausted. I have chronic illnesses and the lack of sleep is making me worse. My husband and I both work long hours at jobs we need to be able to be alert and focused.    I don\u2019t know what to do. We have tried putting him in his cat carrier when he does it, but he started peeing on himself when I did that so I had to bathe him and clean the carrier every morning. I cannot leave him food out overnight because he is diabetic.  I love my cat and would never get rid of him but I\u2019m at my wits end here. I cannot continue to go like this because the lack of sleep is making me so ill. He has done this for a long time now but it has increasingly gotten worse to the point that if I let him he would go nonstop for more than 5 hours. I can\u2019t work like this, I can\u2019t function like this.   We tried sticky tape on the door, no help. We try getting up and constantly removing him away from the door but that keeps both of us awake and he just turns around and comes right back. We tried a spritz of water, it just made him angry.   Please help, I really don\u2019t know what to do.  Edit: I should also add he is a 20 pound Mane Coone so you can only imagine what it sounds like with that banging and knocking against a door all night long", "c_root_id_A": "em4nbly", "c_root_id_B": "em59vzr", "created_at_utc_A": 1556621954, "created_at_utc_B": 1556639724, "score_A": 3, "score_B": 7, "human_ref_A": "Do you know roughly what triggered this behaviour?", "human_ref_B": "Do you think he's begging for food? Obviously with him being diabetic, free feeding isn't an option... but what about getting a timed feeder to give him a small meal around midnight?   You would want to talk to your vet first, but it seems like maybe a small meal could fit within his diabetes-friendly diet AND help reduce the amount of harassing he does.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 17770.0, "score_ratio": 2.3333333333, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "bj1dci", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.96, "history": "Please help. My cat is pushing me to the edge Every single night between 12 and 1 am my cat starts banging on doors, mostly our bedroom door. It doesn\u2019t matter whether it is open or closed. He will even come in, push the door closed, and continue to bang on it all night long. I literally mean he will do this from midnight until I finally drag myself out of bed, often at 2 or 3 am. He will easily go until 5 or 6 am if we didn\u2019t get up. I\u2019m exhausted. I have chronic illnesses and the lack of sleep is making me worse. My husband and I both work long hours at jobs we need to be able to be alert and focused.    I don\u2019t know what to do. We have tried putting him in his cat carrier when he does it, but he started peeing on himself when I did that so I had to bathe him and clean the carrier every morning. I cannot leave him food out overnight because he is diabetic.  I love my cat and would never get rid of him but I\u2019m at my wits end here. I cannot continue to go like this because the lack of sleep is making me so ill. He has done this for a long time now but it has increasingly gotten worse to the point that if I let him he would go nonstop for more than 5 hours. I can\u2019t work like this, I can\u2019t function like this.   We tried sticky tape on the door, no help. We try getting up and constantly removing him away from the door but that keeps both of us awake and he just turns around and comes right back. We tried a spritz of water, it just made him angry.   Please help, I really don\u2019t know what to do.  Edit: I should also add he is a 20 pound Mane Coone so you can only imagine what it sounds like with that banging and knocking against a door all night long", "c_root_id_A": "em4k3jj", "c_root_id_B": "em59vzr", "created_at_utc_A": 1556617183, "created_at_utc_B": 1556639724, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 7, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed.   This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Do you think he's begging for food? Obviously with him being diabetic, free feeding isn't an option... but what about getting a timed feeder to give him a small meal around midnight?   You would want to talk to your vet first, but it seems like maybe a small meal could fit within his diabetes-friendly diet AND help reduce the amount of harassing he does.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 22541.0, "score_ratio": 7.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "bj1dci", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.96, "history": "Please help. My cat is pushing me to the edge Every single night between 12 and 1 am my cat starts banging on doors, mostly our bedroom door. It doesn\u2019t matter whether it is open or closed. He will even come in, push the door closed, and continue to bang on it all night long. I literally mean he will do this from midnight until I finally drag myself out of bed, often at 2 or 3 am. He will easily go until 5 or 6 am if we didn\u2019t get up. I\u2019m exhausted. I have chronic illnesses and the lack of sleep is making me worse. My husband and I both work long hours at jobs we need to be able to be alert and focused.    I don\u2019t know what to do. We have tried putting him in his cat carrier when he does it, but he started peeing on himself when I did that so I had to bathe him and clean the carrier every morning. I cannot leave him food out overnight because he is diabetic.  I love my cat and would never get rid of him but I\u2019m at my wits end here. I cannot continue to go like this because the lack of sleep is making me so ill. He has done this for a long time now but it has increasingly gotten worse to the point that if I let him he would go nonstop for more than 5 hours. I can\u2019t work like this, I can\u2019t function like this.   We tried sticky tape on the door, no help. We try getting up and constantly removing him away from the door but that keeps both of us awake and he just turns around and comes right back. We tried a spritz of water, it just made him angry.   Please help, I really don\u2019t know what to do.  Edit: I should also add he is a 20 pound Mane Coone so you can only imagine what it sounds like with that banging and knocking against a door all night long", "c_root_id_A": "em4nbly", "c_root_id_B": "em5cdt8", "created_at_utc_A": 1556621954, "created_at_utc_B": 1556641240, "score_A": 3, "score_B": 4, "human_ref_A": "Do you know roughly what triggered this behaviour?", "human_ref_B": "Is there anything you can do to muffle the sound of him banging against the door? Maybe put up a thick blanket along the part of the door he can reach as a first step.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 19286.0, "score_ratio": 1.3333333333, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "bj1dci", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.96, "history": "Please help. My cat is pushing me to the edge Every single night between 12 and 1 am my cat starts banging on doors, mostly our bedroom door. It doesn\u2019t matter whether it is open or closed. He will even come in, push the door closed, and continue to bang on it all night long. I literally mean he will do this from midnight until I finally drag myself out of bed, often at 2 or 3 am. He will easily go until 5 or 6 am if we didn\u2019t get up. I\u2019m exhausted. I have chronic illnesses and the lack of sleep is making me worse. My husband and I both work long hours at jobs we need to be able to be alert and focused.    I don\u2019t know what to do. We have tried putting him in his cat carrier when he does it, but he started peeing on himself when I did that so I had to bathe him and clean the carrier every morning. I cannot leave him food out overnight because he is diabetic.  I love my cat and would never get rid of him but I\u2019m at my wits end here. I cannot continue to go like this because the lack of sleep is making me so ill. He has done this for a long time now but it has increasingly gotten worse to the point that if I let him he would go nonstop for more than 5 hours. I can\u2019t work like this, I can\u2019t function like this.   We tried sticky tape on the door, no help. We try getting up and constantly removing him away from the door but that keeps both of us awake and he just turns around and comes right back. We tried a spritz of water, it just made him angry.   Please help, I really don\u2019t know what to do.  Edit: I should also add he is a 20 pound Mane Coone so you can only imagine what it sounds like with that banging and knocking against a door all night long", "c_root_id_A": "em4k3jj", "c_root_id_B": "em5cdt8", "created_at_utc_A": 1556617183, "created_at_utc_B": 1556641240, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 4, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed.   This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Is there anything you can do to muffle the sound of him banging against the door? Maybe put up a thick blanket along the part of the door he can reach as a first step.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 24057.0, "score_ratio": 4.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "bj1dci", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.96, "history": "Please help. My cat is pushing me to the edge Every single night between 12 and 1 am my cat starts banging on doors, mostly our bedroom door. It doesn\u2019t matter whether it is open or closed. He will even come in, push the door closed, and continue to bang on it all night long. I literally mean he will do this from midnight until I finally drag myself out of bed, often at 2 or 3 am. He will easily go until 5 or 6 am if we didn\u2019t get up. I\u2019m exhausted. I have chronic illnesses and the lack of sleep is making me worse. My husband and I both work long hours at jobs we need to be able to be alert and focused.    I don\u2019t know what to do. We have tried putting him in his cat carrier when he does it, but he started peeing on himself when I did that so I had to bathe him and clean the carrier every morning. I cannot leave him food out overnight because he is diabetic.  I love my cat and would never get rid of him but I\u2019m at my wits end here. I cannot continue to go like this because the lack of sleep is making me so ill. He has done this for a long time now but it has increasingly gotten worse to the point that if I let him he would go nonstop for more than 5 hours. I can\u2019t work like this, I can\u2019t function like this.   We tried sticky tape on the door, no help. We try getting up and constantly removing him away from the door but that keeps both of us awake and he just turns around and comes right back. We tried a spritz of water, it just made him angry.   Please help, I really don\u2019t know what to do.  Edit: I should also add he is a 20 pound Mane Coone so you can only imagine what it sounds like with that banging and knocking against a door all night long", "c_root_id_A": "em4k3jj", "c_root_id_B": "em4nbly", "created_at_utc_A": 1556617183, "created_at_utc_B": 1556621954, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 3, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed.   This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Do you know roughly what triggered this behaviour?", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 4771.0, "score_ratio": 3.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "bj1dci", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.96, "history": "Please help. My cat is pushing me to the edge Every single night between 12 and 1 am my cat starts banging on doors, mostly our bedroom door. It doesn\u2019t matter whether it is open or closed. He will even come in, push the door closed, and continue to bang on it all night long. I literally mean he will do this from midnight until I finally drag myself out of bed, often at 2 or 3 am. He will easily go until 5 or 6 am if we didn\u2019t get up. I\u2019m exhausted. I have chronic illnesses and the lack of sleep is making me worse. My husband and I both work long hours at jobs we need to be able to be alert and focused.    I don\u2019t know what to do. We have tried putting him in his cat carrier when he does it, but he started peeing on himself when I did that so I had to bathe him and clean the carrier every morning. I cannot leave him food out overnight because he is diabetic.  I love my cat and would never get rid of him but I\u2019m at my wits end here. I cannot continue to go like this because the lack of sleep is making me so ill. He has done this for a long time now but it has increasingly gotten worse to the point that if I let him he would go nonstop for more than 5 hours. I can\u2019t work like this, I can\u2019t function like this.   We tried sticky tape on the door, no help. We try getting up and constantly removing him away from the door but that keeps both of us awake and he just turns around and comes right back. We tried a spritz of water, it just made him angry.   Please help, I really don\u2019t know what to do.  Edit: I should also add he is a 20 pound Mane Coone so you can only imagine what it sounds like with that banging and knocking against a door all night long", "c_root_id_A": "em5qtwa", "c_root_id_B": "em4k3jj", "created_at_utc_A": 1556649981, "created_at_utc_B": 1556617183, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Has he been recently evaluated by his vet? Is his diabetes well-controlled? When was his most recent exam and bloodwork/urinalysis? If these are all normal, consider referral to a veterinary behaviorist.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed.   This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 32798.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "bj1dci", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.96, "history": "Please help. My cat is pushing me to the edge Every single night between 12 and 1 am my cat starts banging on doors, mostly our bedroom door. It doesn\u2019t matter whether it is open or closed. He will even come in, push the door closed, and continue to bang on it all night long. I literally mean he will do this from midnight until I finally drag myself out of bed, often at 2 or 3 am. He will easily go until 5 or 6 am if we didn\u2019t get up. I\u2019m exhausted. I have chronic illnesses and the lack of sleep is making me worse. My husband and I both work long hours at jobs we need to be able to be alert and focused.    I don\u2019t know what to do. We have tried putting him in his cat carrier when he does it, but he started peeing on himself when I did that so I had to bathe him and clean the carrier every morning. I cannot leave him food out overnight because he is diabetic.  I love my cat and would never get rid of him but I\u2019m at my wits end here. I cannot continue to go like this because the lack of sleep is making me so ill. He has done this for a long time now but it has increasingly gotten worse to the point that if I let him he would go nonstop for more than 5 hours. I can\u2019t work like this, I can\u2019t function like this.   We tried sticky tape on the door, no help. We try getting up and constantly removing him away from the door but that keeps both of us awake and he just turns around and comes right back. We tried a spritz of water, it just made him angry.   Please help, I really don\u2019t know what to do.  Edit: I should also add he is a 20 pound Mane Coone so you can only imagine what it sounds like with that banging and knocking against a door all night long", "c_root_id_A": "em5qtwa", "c_root_id_B": "em5jy2y", "created_at_utc_A": 1556649981, "created_at_utc_B": 1556645738, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Has he been recently evaluated by his vet? Is his diabetes well-controlled? When was his most recent exam and bloodwork/urinalysis? If these are all normal, consider referral to a veterinary behaviorist.", "human_ref_B": "Can you try installing a cat door? Without a flap.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 4243.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "bj1dci", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.96, "history": "Please help. My cat is pushing me to the edge Every single night between 12 and 1 am my cat starts banging on doors, mostly our bedroom door. It doesn\u2019t matter whether it is open or closed. He will even come in, push the door closed, and continue to bang on it all night long. I literally mean he will do this from midnight until I finally drag myself out of bed, often at 2 or 3 am. He will easily go until 5 or 6 am if we didn\u2019t get up. I\u2019m exhausted. I have chronic illnesses and the lack of sleep is making me worse. My husband and I both work long hours at jobs we need to be able to be alert and focused.    I don\u2019t know what to do. We have tried putting him in his cat carrier when he does it, but he started peeing on himself when I did that so I had to bathe him and clean the carrier every morning. I cannot leave him food out overnight because he is diabetic.  I love my cat and would never get rid of him but I\u2019m at my wits end here. I cannot continue to go like this because the lack of sleep is making me so ill. He has done this for a long time now but it has increasingly gotten worse to the point that if I let him he would go nonstop for more than 5 hours. I can\u2019t work like this, I can\u2019t function like this.   We tried sticky tape on the door, no help. We try getting up and constantly removing him away from the door but that keeps both of us awake and he just turns around and comes right back. We tried a spritz of water, it just made him angry.   Please help, I really don\u2019t know what to do.  Edit: I should also add he is a 20 pound Mane Coone so you can only imagine what it sounds like with that banging and knocking against a door all night long", "c_root_id_A": "em5kmws", "c_root_id_B": "em5qtwa", "created_at_utc_A": 1556646168, "created_at_utc_B": 1556649981, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "Is there any reason he can\u2019t be in your room at night ?", "human_ref_B": "Has he been recently evaluated by his vet? Is his diabetes well-controlled? When was his most recent exam and bloodwork/urinalysis? If these are all normal, consider referral to a veterinary behaviorist.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 3813.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "n5uuwq", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Vet said my puppies first round of Distemper and Parvovirus vaccinations were too early and weren't effective. Is that true and does it work like that? So I just recently got a Pembroke Welsh Corgi back on March 28th. I got him slightly before he turned 8 weeks old. The breeder gave him his first round at 6 weeks old and then he got his second round at just over 10 weeks old. Now I just took him to get his third round today at 12 weeks and 6 days old and my vet told me that his first round didn't count and that he was too young and it wasn't effective so it was actually his second round. Is that true? I want to be able to expose him to more things and start taking him outside to public places but want to be safe. They also said I should get his third round in a month which would delay things even more.   For more context I live in an apartment complex and have been using artificial grass on my patio for him to go potty but I want to start getting him used to going on real grass but there's a lot of dogs in my complex and he loves to eat grass and everything so I want to be safe and make sure he's safe if I start taking him out.", "c_root_id_A": "gx3fneo", "c_root_id_B": "gx3eg41", "created_at_utc_A": 1620261455, "created_at_utc_B": 1620260871, "score_A": 21, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Please read our FAQ about vaccines. All puppies need multiple DHPP vaccines until a minimum of 16 weeks so it doesn't matter whether those early ones \"counted\". He would have needed this vaccine (13 weeks) and another (16 weeks) regardless of what he got before.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 584.0, "score_ratio": 21.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "z08wq0", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.95, "history": "Emergency or wait til tomorrow to see the vet Hi,   My cat is 4 years old domestics short haired male, indoor only. Last night he ate his wet food normally, but his dry food sporadically, had a very stinky poop, this morning he had a poop like soft serve and then he threw up at 7:30 am. He hasn\u2019t eaten or drink water at all. The vomit looked kind of like wet food\u2014it was mushy and pale pink/brown. No chunks or anything. He isn\u2019t hiding but he definitely isn\u2019t as energetic as he usually is. A lot of the emergency vet places near me are at capacity and my regular vet doesn\u2019t open until tomorrow. Should I drive to an emergency room further out or can I wait to see if his normal vet can see him tomorrow?", "c_root_id_A": "ix4ch4d", "c_root_id_B": "ix45lxj", "created_at_utc_A": 1668965906, "created_at_utc_B": 1668963110, "score_A": 16, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "If he vomits again or becomes more lethargic, I would take him to the ER. I would also call your vet and leave a message to see if he can come in tomorrow. However, many vets are fully booked for multiple days, so he may need to be seen by the ER regardless.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 2796.0, "score_ratio": 16.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "aqoxqx", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.88, "history": "When People Say Pittbulls are a dangerous breed, how does it work since most are mixed? I've seen people constantly say they're a dangerous breed, and read some reports that say they have more attacks.  But how does that work since it's a really mixed breed and not super specific?   Should people actually be worried or does it not matter given the mix?", "c_root_id_A": "eghikfo", "c_root_id_B": "eghmdpc", "created_at_utc_A": 1550179985, "created_at_utc_B": 1550182764, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 20, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has not** been removed.   This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "When people to refer to Pitbulls, they usually mean a combo of American Staffordshire Terrier, American Pitbull Terrier, or any cross similar to that.  They aren't any more dangerous than any other large strong breed, they are just the breed most recently chosen by assholes to turn into mean dogs for status, security, or fighting.  If you go back in time and look at dog bite statistics over decades, you will see that at one point it was Rotties, and at another point it was GSDs.  Most dogs can be made dangerous depending on how they are treated.  Of course the stronger the jaws and the larger the mouth, the more damage can be done by the dog.  There is a small percent statistically, that would not become aggressive due to genetics, but this is just as true of the pit breed as any other. I work in rescue, and we took in a pit mix that was just the absolute sweetest thing. He had been rescued from a man that had tried to make him mean, and it just wasn't in the dog. But overall, that's like 20% or less of dogs that will really only resort to a bite maybe to save their life or in a panic injured mode.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 2779.0, "score_ratio": 20.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "aqoxqx", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.88, "history": "When People Say Pittbulls are a dangerous breed, how does it work since most are mixed? I've seen people constantly say they're a dangerous breed, and read some reports that say they have more attacks.  But how does that work since it's a really mixed breed and not super specific?   Should people actually be worried or does it not matter given the mix?", "c_root_id_A": "eghzjcp", "c_root_id_B": "eghikfo", "created_at_utc_A": 1550193240, "created_at_utc_B": 1550179985, "score_A": 3, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "So a lot has to do with breed popularity, subsequent breeding practices, and breed genetics.  Pitbulls become popular. Therefore puppy Mills/backyard breeders focus on that breed (assuming we're talking about American pitbull terriers right now, but the same could be said for American Staffordshire terriers). These breeders only care to sell as many dogs as possible, so they don't take into account the temperaments of the parents (or physical health) when breeding. These dogs have a proclivity to be dog-aggressive, and with no parental temperament checks, it so happens that that aggressiveness is often passed down to the puppies. And this isn't even taking into account dogs breed specifically to be dog aggressive for dog fighting and then those dogs ending up in the general population, being breed, and their puppies being sold via Craigslist or whatever. So APBTs and ASTs are often dog aggressive as adults unless bred by reputable breeders (and even then it's certainly possible)  As for human aggression, that is less a breed trait and more a result of bad breeding practices (breeding unstable, aggressive adults for profit), owners who don't know how to deal with difficult dogs, and unfortunate situations where a human triggers prey drive in the dog.  Basically, the thing to be aware of when getting a pitbull (or pit mix) from a shelter or non-reputable breeder is that it is likely that no thought went into it's breeding. At best this means that the dog is a sweet, loveable animal that will be a great addition to the family. But there is a higher-than-average chance that it will have some behavioral issues, the most likely being dog aggression. That's not to say that behavior isn't manageable, but it's something that people who want pitbulls (and other breeds that tend to be dog aggressive) should be aware of and do lots of research into.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has not** been removed.   This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 13255.0, "score_ratio": 3.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "aqoxqx", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.88, "history": "When People Say Pittbulls are a dangerous breed, how does it work since most are mixed? I've seen people constantly say they're a dangerous breed, and read some reports that say they have more attacks.  But how does that work since it's a really mixed breed and not super specific?   Should people actually be worried or does it not matter given the mix?", "c_root_id_A": "egi2o4a", "c_root_id_B": "egi1ma2", "created_at_utc_A": 1550195878, "created_at_utc_B": 1550194988, "score_A": 3, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "Who'd have thought I could recycle this post so fast: >  > I generally link this thread to illustrate where we're coming from in the context of selection for function. TL;DR: Pit Bulls haven't been bred for \"Dog Aggression\" in the usual sense, they have been bred to consider and treat other dogs as prey during dog fights. On very rare occasions, that selection can misfire towards other species including humans. >  > As for a list of studies on the subject of danger, I generally link this post.", "human_ref_B": "I'll add that it would make sense if \"pitbulls\" were the \"breed\" with the most bite reports - they're maybe the most common dog \"breed\" now. If there is no correlation between breed and aggression, you would expect bite reports to be proportional to the number of dogs of that breed that exist. If you actually look at it adjusted for population of the breed, iirc chow chows and chihuahuas jump to the top of the list. However, in the US, both the CDC and the AVMA have stated that categorizing bites by breed is not useful.  I don't want to get into it here (although I feel compelled to say something since no one brings this up ever), but there's definitely also a component of racism that goes into this perception. More reading on the history of pitbull discrimination and how it really stems from discrimination against PoC: http://www.nathanwinograd.com/the-ugly-racist-underpinnings-of-pit-bull-laws/", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 890.0, "score_ratio": 1.5, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "aqoxqx", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.88, "history": "When People Say Pittbulls are a dangerous breed, how does it work since most are mixed? I've seen people constantly say they're a dangerous breed, and read some reports that say they have more attacks.  But how does that work since it's a really mixed breed and not super specific?   Should people actually be worried or does it not matter given the mix?", "c_root_id_A": "egi2o4a", "c_root_id_B": "eghikfo", "created_at_utc_A": 1550195878, "created_at_utc_B": 1550179985, "score_A": 3, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Who'd have thought I could recycle this post so fast: >  > I generally link this thread to illustrate where we're coming from in the context of selection for function. TL;DR: Pit Bulls haven't been bred for \"Dog Aggression\" in the usual sense, they have been bred to consider and treat other dogs as prey during dog fights. On very rare occasions, that selection can misfire towards other species including humans. >  > As for a list of studies on the subject of danger, I generally link this post.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has not** been removed.   This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 15893.0, "score_ratio": 3.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "aqoxqx", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.88, "history": "When People Say Pittbulls are a dangerous breed, how does it work since most are mixed? I've seen people constantly say they're a dangerous breed, and read some reports that say they have more attacks.  But how does that work since it's a really mixed breed and not super specific?   Should people actually be worried or does it not matter given the mix?", "c_root_id_A": "eghikfo", "c_root_id_B": "egi1ma2", "created_at_utc_A": 1550179985, "created_at_utc_B": 1550194988, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has not** been removed.   This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "I'll add that it would make sense if \"pitbulls\" were the \"breed\" with the most bite reports - they're maybe the most common dog \"breed\" now. If there is no correlation between breed and aggression, you would expect bite reports to be proportional to the number of dogs of that breed that exist. If you actually look at it adjusted for population of the breed, iirc chow chows and chihuahuas jump to the top of the list. However, in the US, both the CDC and the AVMA have stated that categorizing bites by breed is not useful.  I don't want to get into it here (although I feel compelled to say something since no one brings this up ever), but there's definitely also a component of racism that goes into this perception. More reading on the history of pitbull discrimination and how it really stems from discrimination against PoC: http://www.nathanwinograd.com/the-ugly-racist-underpinnings-of-pit-bull-laws/", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 15003.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xguelh", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.81, "history": "would the glue from neutering my cat possibly tattoo my cats skin? My cat is 2 years, long hair domestic, he has this bright blue spot on his tummy and the only thing I could think of is the bright blue glue from the neuter. It's only on his skin not his coat and does not seem to come off or bother him. It's about where the incision was and the glue they used was about the same color blue. He's acting normal and everything just want to make sure I don't need to bring him into a vet.", "c_root_id_A": "iotyy0u", "c_root_id_B": "iotv5rp", "created_at_utc_A": 1663442169, "created_at_utc_B": 1663440568, "score_A": 44, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "It is very common for pets to receive a small tattoo at the time of spay/neuter. It just signifies that they have been altered!", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 1601.0, "score_ratio": 44.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xguelh", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.81, "history": "would the glue from neutering my cat possibly tattoo my cats skin? My cat is 2 years, long hair domestic, he has this bright blue spot on his tummy and the only thing I could think of is the bright blue glue from the neuter. It's only on his skin not his coat and does not seem to come off or bother him. It's about where the incision was and the glue they used was about the same color blue. He's acting normal and everything just want to make sure I don't need to bring him into a vet.", "c_root_id_A": "iotv5rp", "c_root_id_B": "iou7hg2", "created_at_utc_A": 1663440568, "created_at_utc_B": 1663445825, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 8, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "It\u2019s not uncommon in cats that they put some tattoo ink directly on the incision or tattoo a line on the belly, so if the cat is ever lost and owners are not found they don\u2019t try and spay it again.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 5257.0, "score_ratio": 8.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xguelh", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.81, "history": "would the glue from neutering my cat possibly tattoo my cats skin? My cat is 2 years, long hair domestic, he has this bright blue spot on his tummy and the only thing I could think of is the bright blue glue from the neuter. It's only on his skin not his coat and does not seem to come off or bother him. It's about where the incision was and the glue they used was about the same color blue. He's acting normal and everything just want to make sure I don't need to bring him into a vet.", "c_root_id_A": "iou1x5x", "c_root_id_B": "iotv5rp", "created_at_utc_A": 1663443445, "created_at_utc_B": 1663440568, "score_A": 6, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "It's a tattoo", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 2877.0, "score_ratio": 6.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xguelh", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.81, "history": "would the glue from neutering my cat possibly tattoo my cats skin? My cat is 2 years, long hair domestic, he has this bright blue spot on his tummy and the only thing I could think of is the bright blue glue from the neuter. It's only on his skin not his coat and does not seem to come off or bother him. It's about where the incision was and the glue they used was about the same color blue. He's acting normal and everything just want to make sure I don't need to bring him into a vet.", "c_root_id_A": "iou8unm", "c_root_id_B": "iotv5rp", "created_at_utc_A": 1663446417, "created_at_utc_B": 1663440568, "score_A": 4, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Our little terrier mix actually got a heart tattooed when she got fixed! Cutest little thing.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 5849.0, "score_ratio": 4.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xguelh", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.81, "history": "would the glue from neutering my cat possibly tattoo my cats skin? My cat is 2 years, long hair domestic, he has this bright blue spot on his tummy and the only thing I could think of is the bright blue glue from the neuter. It's only on his skin not his coat and does not seem to come off or bother him. It's about where the incision was and the glue they used was about the same color blue. He's acting normal and everything just want to make sure I don't need to bring him into a vet.", "c_root_id_A": "iotxfz4", "c_root_id_B": "iotv5rp", "created_at_utc_A": 1663441532, "created_at_utc_B": 1663440568, "score_A": 3, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "My terrier has this same spot from his neuter a year ago despite many, many baths... I hadn't thought about it much but will be curious if this sub sees it as a concern", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 964.0, "score_ratio": 3.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xguelh", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.81, "history": "would the glue from neutering my cat possibly tattoo my cats skin? My cat is 2 years, long hair domestic, he has this bright blue spot on his tummy and the only thing I could think of is the bright blue glue from the neuter. It's only on his skin not his coat and does not seem to come off or bother him. It's about where the incision was and the glue they used was about the same color blue. He's acting normal and everything just want to make sure I don't need to bring him into a vet.", "c_root_id_A": "iouxy0y", "c_root_id_B": "iotv5rp", "created_at_utc_A": 1663457611, "created_at_utc_B": 1663440568, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "My room mate volunteered at spay and neuter clinics, they tattooed all the dogs and cats after a procedure. A little bluish green line.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 17043.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xguelh", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.81, "history": "would the glue from neutering my cat possibly tattoo my cats skin? My cat is 2 years, long hair domestic, he has this bright blue spot on his tummy and the only thing I could think of is the bright blue glue from the neuter. It's only on his skin not his coat and does not seem to come off or bother him. It's about where the incision was and the glue they used was about the same color blue. He's acting normal and everything just want to make sure I don't need to bring him into a vet.", "c_root_id_A": "iotxfz4", "c_root_id_B": "iotyy0u", "created_at_utc_A": 1663441532, "created_at_utc_B": 1663442169, "score_A": 3, "score_B": 44, "human_ref_A": "My terrier has this same spot from his neuter a year ago despite many, many baths... I hadn't thought about it much but will be curious if this sub sees it as a concern", "human_ref_B": "It is very common for pets to receive a small tattoo at the time of spay/neuter. It just signifies that they have been altered!", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 637.0, "score_ratio": 14.6666666667, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xguelh", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.81, "history": "would the glue from neutering my cat possibly tattoo my cats skin? My cat is 2 years, long hair domestic, he has this bright blue spot on his tummy and the only thing I could think of is the bright blue glue from the neuter. It's only on his skin not his coat and does not seem to come off or bother him. It's about where the incision was and the glue they used was about the same color blue. He's acting normal and everything just want to make sure I don't need to bring him into a vet.", "c_root_id_A": "iou7hg2", "c_root_id_B": "iou1x5x", "created_at_utc_A": 1663445825, "created_at_utc_B": 1663443445, "score_A": 8, "score_B": 6, "human_ref_A": "It\u2019s not uncommon in cats that they put some tattoo ink directly on the incision or tattoo a line on the belly, so if the cat is ever lost and owners are not found they don\u2019t try and spay it again.", "human_ref_B": "It's a tattoo", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 2380.0, "score_ratio": 1.3333333333, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xguelh", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.81, "history": "would the glue from neutering my cat possibly tattoo my cats skin? My cat is 2 years, long hair domestic, he has this bright blue spot on his tummy and the only thing I could think of is the bright blue glue from the neuter. It's only on his skin not his coat and does not seem to come off or bother him. It's about where the incision was and the glue they used was about the same color blue. He's acting normal and everything just want to make sure I don't need to bring him into a vet.", "c_root_id_A": "iou7hg2", "c_root_id_B": "iotxfz4", "created_at_utc_A": 1663445825, "created_at_utc_B": 1663441532, "score_A": 8, "score_B": 3, "human_ref_A": "It\u2019s not uncommon in cats that they put some tattoo ink directly on the incision or tattoo a line on the belly, so if the cat is ever lost and owners are not found they don\u2019t try and spay it again.", "human_ref_B": "My terrier has this same spot from his neuter a year ago despite many, many baths... I hadn't thought about it much but will be curious if this sub sees it as a concern", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 4293.0, "score_ratio": 2.6666666667, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xguelh", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.81, "history": "would the glue from neutering my cat possibly tattoo my cats skin? My cat is 2 years, long hair domestic, he has this bright blue spot on his tummy and the only thing I could think of is the bright blue glue from the neuter. It's only on his skin not his coat and does not seem to come off or bother him. It's about where the incision was and the glue they used was about the same color blue. He's acting normal and everything just want to make sure I don't need to bring him into a vet.", "c_root_id_A": "iotxfz4", "c_root_id_B": "iou1x5x", "created_at_utc_A": 1663441532, "created_at_utc_B": 1663443445, "score_A": 3, "score_B": 6, "human_ref_A": "My terrier has this same spot from his neuter a year ago despite many, many baths... I hadn't thought about it much but will be curious if this sub sees it as a concern", "human_ref_B": "It's a tattoo", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 1913.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xguelh", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.81, "history": "would the glue from neutering my cat possibly tattoo my cats skin? My cat is 2 years, long hair domestic, he has this bright blue spot on his tummy and the only thing I could think of is the bright blue glue from the neuter. It's only on his skin not his coat and does not seem to come off or bother him. It's about where the incision was and the glue they used was about the same color blue. He's acting normal and everything just want to make sure I don't need to bring him into a vet.", "c_root_id_A": "iou8unm", "c_root_id_B": "iotxfz4", "created_at_utc_A": 1663446417, "created_at_utc_B": 1663441532, "score_A": 4, "score_B": 3, "human_ref_A": "Our little terrier mix actually got a heart tattooed when she got fixed! Cutest little thing.", "human_ref_B": "My terrier has this same spot from his neuter a year ago despite many, many baths... I hadn't thought about it much but will be curious if this sub sees it as a concern", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 4885.0, "score_ratio": 1.3333333333, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "y5yu41", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Dog ate a little crest toothpaste! Help! I messed up. I was brushing their teeth - put the dog toothpaste on the desk, where my toothpaste was sitting. I grabbed the wrong one and didn't notice until after I was done. He's a 15 year old dog that weighs 24 pounds and consumed about a pea-sized amount of Crest Pro-Health Advanced.  Active ingredients: Stannous Fluoride (0.16% W/v Fluoride Ion) (0.454 %),  Inactive: Glycerin, Hydrated Silica, Sodium Hexametaphosphate, Propylene Gylcol, PEG-6, Water, Zinc Lactate, Flavor, Sodium Lauryl Sulfate, Sodium Gluconate, Sodium Saccharin, Trisodium Phosphate, Xanthan Gum, PVP, Carrageenan, Blue 1.  I got distracted and that's when I picked up the wrong toothpaste. What do I do? No xylitol, but he's an old dog and just a little guy. I'm really upset. Help!", "c_root_id_A": "ismj60s", "c_root_id_B": "ismjyo2", "created_at_utc_A": 1665973159, "created_at_utc_B": 1665973521, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 10, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Call aspca poison control", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 362.0, "score_ratio": 10.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "ggznso", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "Stupid mistake. Accidentally gave my kitten dewormer 2 weeks before the vet said to. They may have already given him a dose today. Acting very lethargic. My 5-7 week old kitten has roundworms. We took him to the vet today but due to covid they were extremely brief with us. They gave us a syringe of strongid (.2) and I accidentally gave it to him today when I was actually supposed to give it to him in 2 weeks. I'm not sure if they already gave him a dose today or not. They wouldn't let us come in with him and were super unclear. I tried calling the vet back after I realized my mistake but they are now closed. He's acting pretty lethargic, sleeping a lot, and kinda has glazed eyes, but will still get up for food and to go to the bathroom. But way more sleepy and slow than usual. New pet parent, might be overreacting, but looking for advice.", "c_root_id_A": "fq5qop4", "c_root_id_B": "fq5robt", "created_at_utc_A": 1589114777, "created_at_utc_B": 1589115592, "score_A": 18, "score_B": 56, "human_ref_A": "Pyrantel (strongid) is a very safe medication and, although you\u2019ll want to get another dewormer to give in 2 weeks, your kitten should be fine even if he got two doses today.  Obviously, if he starts acting extremely off, you should take him to an ER facility but it will unlikely be because of the strongid. Did he receive vaccines today?", "human_ref_B": "Hi, am a vet, but not familiar with that specific brand in my country (though I'm aware of its use mechanism of action). Mods please delete if inappropriate. Not trying to diagnose, just attempting to present publicly available information.   Want to preface that if you believe your kitten is unwell, you should go to the closest vet or call a poisons hotline in your country.   Speaking in generalities. Strongid is Pyrantel pamoate.   \"Toxic Symptoms caused by Pyrantel Poisoning  Most frequent intoxication symptoms are cholinergic:  Tachycardia\u00a0(accelerated heart rate)  Salivation\u00a0(drooling)  Hyperhidrosis\u00a0(excessive sweating)  Diarrhea  Vomit  Tremor\u00a0(uncoordinated trembling or shaking movements)  Convulsions  Excitation  Ataxia\u00a0(uncoordinated movements)\"  In kittens usually administered 5 -10mg/kg. A kitten 5 - 7 weeks would usually be 500 - 700g at smallest. So presuming your kitten is the smallest.  To my calculations your kitten would likely be prescribed 2.5-5mg total. If the strongid paste was the highest available concentration of 50mg/ml, then 0.2ml would be 10mg total.   This resource on toxicity states that \"Kittens\u00a04 to\u00a06 weeks\u00a0old treated at 300 mg/kg/day during\u00a03 days\u00a0did not show clinical symptoms\"  Your kitten would be below this dose.   However, please be mindful that your kitten can still undergo sudden decline in relation to the mass die off of worms, or another yet undiagnosed illness. And so I'd like to stress that if the kitten is not behaving normally, take him for a second opinion. Kittens can go from fine to critical in no time flat. A secondary health check may be worth it, even if there has been no toxicity.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 815.0, "score_ratio": 3.1111111111, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "ggznso", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "Stupid mistake. Accidentally gave my kitten dewormer 2 weeks before the vet said to. They may have already given him a dose today. Acting very lethargic. My 5-7 week old kitten has roundworms. We took him to the vet today but due to covid they were extremely brief with us. They gave us a syringe of strongid (.2) and I accidentally gave it to him today when I was actually supposed to give it to him in 2 weeks. I'm not sure if they already gave him a dose today or not. They wouldn't let us come in with him and were super unclear. I tried calling the vet back after I realized my mistake but they are now closed. He's acting pretty lethargic, sleeping a lot, and kinda has glazed eyes, but will still get up for food and to go to the bathroom. But way more sleepy and slow than usual. New pet parent, might be overreacting, but looking for advice.", "c_root_id_A": "fq5robt", "c_root_id_B": "fq5r1gm", "created_at_utc_A": 1589115592, "created_at_utc_B": 1589115072, "score_A": 56, "score_B": 8, "human_ref_A": "Hi, am a vet, but not familiar with that specific brand in my country (though I'm aware of its use mechanism of action). Mods please delete if inappropriate. Not trying to diagnose, just attempting to present publicly available information.   Want to preface that if you believe your kitten is unwell, you should go to the closest vet or call a poisons hotline in your country.   Speaking in generalities. Strongid is Pyrantel pamoate.   \"Toxic Symptoms caused by Pyrantel Poisoning  Most frequent intoxication symptoms are cholinergic:  Tachycardia\u00a0(accelerated heart rate)  Salivation\u00a0(drooling)  Hyperhidrosis\u00a0(excessive sweating)  Diarrhea  Vomit  Tremor\u00a0(uncoordinated trembling or shaking movements)  Convulsions  Excitation  Ataxia\u00a0(uncoordinated movements)\"  In kittens usually administered 5 -10mg/kg. A kitten 5 - 7 weeks would usually be 500 - 700g at smallest. So presuming your kitten is the smallest.  To my calculations your kitten would likely be prescribed 2.5-5mg total. If the strongid paste was the highest available concentration of 50mg/ml, then 0.2ml would be 10mg total.   This resource on toxicity states that \"Kittens\u00a04 to\u00a06 weeks\u00a0old treated at 300 mg/kg/day during\u00a03 days\u00a0did not show clinical symptoms\"  Your kitten would be below this dose.   However, please be mindful that your kitten can still undergo sudden decline in relation to the mass die off of worms, or another yet undiagnosed illness. And so I'd like to stress that if the kitten is not behaving normally, take him for a second opinion. Kittens can go from fine to critical in no time flat. A secondary health check may be worth it, even if there has been no toxicity.", "human_ref_B": "It would probably be worth calling your local emergency vet for advice and a physical exam and consultation to ensure there is no immediate risk to your kitten.  The active in strongid is pyrantel which is a generally safe drug with a high margin of safety. However, with any potential mis-dosing it is advisable to seek professional advice, I would still contact an emergency vet local to you and arrange an appointment.  If you want more information and advice (e.g. if vet bills are too much) then consider calling the number on this site: https://www.aspca.org/pet-care/animal-poison-control  The ASPCA is an animal welfare charity that has a poison helpline (among helping animal welfare in other ways- great charity!)  Alternatively if you are in the UK contacting the Veterinary Poison Information Service: https://www.vpisglobal.com", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 520.0, "score_ratio": 7.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "ggznso", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "Stupid mistake. Accidentally gave my kitten dewormer 2 weeks before the vet said to. They may have already given him a dose today. Acting very lethargic. My 5-7 week old kitten has roundworms. We took him to the vet today but due to covid they were extremely brief with us. They gave us a syringe of strongid (.2) and I accidentally gave it to him today when I was actually supposed to give it to him in 2 weeks. I'm not sure if they already gave him a dose today or not. They wouldn't let us come in with him and were super unclear. I tried calling the vet back after I realized my mistake but they are now closed. He's acting pretty lethargic, sleeping a lot, and kinda has glazed eyes, but will still get up for food and to go to the bathroom. But way more sleepy and slow than usual. New pet parent, might be overreacting, but looking for advice.", "c_root_id_A": "fq5pey3", "c_root_id_B": "fq5robt", "created_at_utc_A": 1589113677, "created_at_utc_B": 1589115592, "score_A": 3, "score_B": 56, "human_ref_A": "Is it possible to call a different vet and ask about a potential double dose of dewormer?", "human_ref_B": "Hi, am a vet, but not familiar with that specific brand in my country (though I'm aware of its use mechanism of action). Mods please delete if inappropriate. Not trying to diagnose, just attempting to present publicly available information.   Want to preface that if you believe your kitten is unwell, you should go to the closest vet or call a poisons hotline in your country.   Speaking in generalities. Strongid is Pyrantel pamoate.   \"Toxic Symptoms caused by Pyrantel Poisoning  Most frequent intoxication symptoms are cholinergic:  Tachycardia\u00a0(accelerated heart rate)  Salivation\u00a0(drooling)  Hyperhidrosis\u00a0(excessive sweating)  Diarrhea  Vomit  Tremor\u00a0(uncoordinated trembling or shaking movements)  Convulsions  Excitation  Ataxia\u00a0(uncoordinated movements)\"  In kittens usually administered 5 -10mg/kg. A kitten 5 - 7 weeks would usually be 500 - 700g at smallest. So presuming your kitten is the smallest.  To my calculations your kitten would likely be prescribed 2.5-5mg total. If the strongid paste was the highest available concentration of 50mg/ml, then 0.2ml would be 10mg total.   This resource on toxicity states that \"Kittens\u00a04 to\u00a06 weeks\u00a0old treated at 300 mg/kg/day during\u00a03 days\u00a0did not show clinical symptoms\"  Your kitten would be below this dose.   However, please be mindful that your kitten can still undergo sudden decline in relation to the mass die off of worms, or another yet undiagnosed illness. And so I'd like to stress that if the kitten is not behaving normally, take him for a second opinion. Kittens can go from fine to critical in no time flat. A secondary health check may be worth it, even if there has been no toxicity.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 1915.0, "score_ratio": 18.6666666667, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "ggznso", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "Stupid mistake. Accidentally gave my kitten dewormer 2 weeks before the vet said to. They may have already given him a dose today. Acting very lethargic. My 5-7 week old kitten has roundworms. We took him to the vet today but due to covid they were extremely brief with us. They gave us a syringe of strongid (.2) and I accidentally gave it to him today when I was actually supposed to give it to him in 2 weeks. I'm not sure if they already gave him a dose today or not. They wouldn't let us come in with him and were super unclear. I tried calling the vet back after I realized my mistake but they are now closed. He's acting pretty lethargic, sleeping a lot, and kinda has glazed eyes, but will still get up for food and to go to the bathroom. But way more sleepy and slow than usual. New pet parent, might be overreacting, but looking for advice.", "c_root_id_A": "fq5robt", "c_root_id_B": "fq5kveb", "created_at_utc_A": 1589115592, "created_at_utc_B": 1589109256, "score_A": 56, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Hi, am a vet, but not familiar with that specific brand in my country (though I'm aware of its use mechanism of action). Mods please delete if inappropriate. Not trying to diagnose, just attempting to present publicly available information.   Want to preface that if you believe your kitten is unwell, you should go to the closest vet or call a poisons hotline in your country.   Speaking in generalities. Strongid is Pyrantel pamoate.   \"Toxic Symptoms caused by Pyrantel Poisoning  Most frequent intoxication symptoms are cholinergic:  Tachycardia\u00a0(accelerated heart rate)  Salivation\u00a0(drooling)  Hyperhidrosis\u00a0(excessive sweating)  Diarrhea  Vomit  Tremor\u00a0(uncoordinated trembling or shaking movements)  Convulsions  Excitation  Ataxia\u00a0(uncoordinated movements)\"  In kittens usually administered 5 -10mg/kg. A kitten 5 - 7 weeks would usually be 500 - 700g at smallest. So presuming your kitten is the smallest.  To my calculations your kitten would likely be prescribed 2.5-5mg total. If the strongid paste was the highest available concentration of 50mg/ml, then 0.2ml would be 10mg total.   This resource on toxicity states that \"Kittens\u00a04 to\u00a06 weeks\u00a0old treated at 300 mg/kg/day during\u00a03 days\u00a0did not show clinical symptoms\"  Your kitten would be below this dose.   However, please be mindful that your kitten can still undergo sudden decline in relation to the mass die off of worms, or another yet undiagnosed illness. And so I'd like to stress that if the kitten is not behaving normally, take him for a second opinion. Kittens can go from fine to critical in no time flat. A secondary health check may be worth it, even if there has been no toxicity.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 6336.0, "score_ratio": 56.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "ggznso", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "Stupid mistake. Accidentally gave my kitten dewormer 2 weeks before the vet said to. They may have already given him a dose today. Acting very lethargic. My 5-7 week old kitten has roundworms. We took him to the vet today but due to covid they were extremely brief with us. They gave us a syringe of strongid (.2) and I accidentally gave it to him today when I was actually supposed to give it to him in 2 weeks. I'm not sure if they already gave him a dose today or not. They wouldn't let us come in with him and were super unclear. I tried calling the vet back after I realized my mistake but they are now closed. He's acting pretty lethargic, sleeping a lot, and kinda has glazed eyes, but will still get up for food and to go to the bathroom. But way more sleepy and slow than usual. New pet parent, might be overreacting, but looking for advice.", "c_root_id_A": "fq5pey3", "c_root_id_B": "fq5qop4", "created_at_utc_A": 1589113677, "created_at_utc_B": 1589114777, "score_A": 3, "score_B": 18, "human_ref_A": "Is it possible to call a different vet and ask about a potential double dose of dewormer?", "human_ref_B": "Pyrantel (strongid) is a very safe medication and, although you\u2019ll want to get another dewormer to give in 2 weeks, your kitten should be fine even if he got two doses today.  Obviously, if he starts acting extremely off, you should take him to an ER facility but it will unlikely be because of the strongid. Did he receive vaccines today?", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 1100.0, "score_ratio": 6.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "ggznso", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "Stupid mistake. Accidentally gave my kitten dewormer 2 weeks before the vet said to. They may have already given him a dose today. Acting very lethargic. My 5-7 week old kitten has roundworms. We took him to the vet today but due to covid they were extremely brief with us. They gave us a syringe of strongid (.2) and I accidentally gave it to him today when I was actually supposed to give it to him in 2 weeks. I'm not sure if they already gave him a dose today or not. They wouldn't let us come in with him and were super unclear. I tried calling the vet back after I realized my mistake but they are now closed. He's acting pretty lethargic, sleeping a lot, and kinda has glazed eyes, but will still get up for food and to go to the bathroom. But way more sleepy and slow than usual. New pet parent, might be overreacting, but looking for advice.", "c_root_id_A": "fq5qop4", "c_root_id_B": "fq5kveb", "created_at_utc_A": 1589114777, "created_at_utc_B": 1589109256, "score_A": 18, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Pyrantel (strongid) is a very safe medication and, although you\u2019ll want to get another dewormer to give in 2 weeks, your kitten should be fine even if he got two doses today.  Obviously, if he starts acting extremely off, you should take him to an ER facility but it will unlikely be because of the strongid. Did he receive vaccines today?", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 5521.0, "score_ratio": 18.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "ggznso", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "Stupid mistake. Accidentally gave my kitten dewormer 2 weeks before the vet said to. They may have already given him a dose today. Acting very lethargic. My 5-7 week old kitten has roundworms. We took him to the vet today but due to covid they were extremely brief with us. They gave us a syringe of strongid (.2) and I accidentally gave it to him today when I was actually supposed to give it to him in 2 weeks. I'm not sure if they already gave him a dose today or not. They wouldn't let us come in with him and were super unclear. I tried calling the vet back after I realized my mistake but they are now closed. He's acting pretty lethargic, sleeping a lot, and kinda has glazed eyes, but will still get up for food and to go to the bathroom. But way more sleepy and slow than usual. New pet parent, might be overreacting, but looking for advice.", "c_root_id_A": "fq5r1gm", "c_root_id_B": "fq5pey3", "created_at_utc_A": 1589115072, "created_at_utc_B": 1589113677, "score_A": 8, "score_B": 3, "human_ref_A": "It would probably be worth calling your local emergency vet for advice and a physical exam and consultation to ensure there is no immediate risk to your kitten.  The active in strongid is pyrantel which is a generally safe drug with a high margin of safety. However, with any potential mis-dosing it is advisable to seek professional advice, I would still contact an emergency vet local to you and arrange an appointment.  If you want more information and advice (e.g. if vet bills are too much) then consider calling the number on this site: https://www.aspca.org/pet-care/animal-poison-control  The ASPCA is an animal welfare charity that has a poison helpline (among helping animal welfare in other ways- great charity!)  Alternatively if you are in the UK contacting the Veterinary Poison Information Service: https://www.vpisglobal.com", "human_ref_B": "Is it possible to call a different vet and ask about a potential double dose of dewormer?", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 1395.0, "score_ratio": 2.6666666667, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "ggznso", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "Stupid mistake. Accidentally gave my kitten dewormer 2 weeks before the vet said to. They may have already given him a dose today. Acting very lethargic. My 5-7 week old kitten has roundworms. We took him to the vet today but due to covid they were extremely brief with us. They gave us a syringe of strongid (.2) and I accidentally gave it to him today when I was actually supposed to give it to him in 2 weeks. I'm not sure if they already gave him a dose today or not. They wouldn't let us come in with him and were super unclear. I tried calling the vet back after I realized my mistake but they are now closed. He's acting pretty lethargic, sleeping a lot, and kinda has glazed eyes, but will still get up for food and to go to the bathroom. But way more sleepy and slow than usual. New pet parent, might be overreacting, but looking for advice.", "c_root_id_A": "fq5r1gm", "c_root_id_B": "fq5kveb", "created_at_utc_A": 1589115072, "created_at_utc_B": 1589109256, "score_A": 8, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "It would probably be worth calling your local emergency vet for advice and a physical exam and consultation to ensure there is no immediate risk to your kitten.  The active in strongid is pyrantel which is a generally safe drug with a high margin of safety. However, with any potential mis-dosing it is advisable to seek professional advice, I would still contact an emergency vet local to you and arrange an appointment.  If you want more information and advice (e.g. if vet bills are too much) then consider calling the number on this site: https://www.aspca.org/pet-care/animal-poison-control  The ASPCA is an animal welfare charity that has a poison helpline (among helping animal welfare in other ways- great charity!)  Alternatively if you are in the UK contacting the Veterinary Poison Information Service: https://www.vpisglobal.com", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 5816.0, "score_ratio": 8.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "ggznso", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "Stupid mistake. Accidentally gave my kitten dewormer 2 weeks before the vet said to. They may have already given him a dose today. Acting very lethargic. My 5-7 week old kitten has roundworms. We took him to the vet today but due to covid they were extremely brief with us. They gave us a syringe of strongid (.2) and I accidentally gave it to him today when I was actually supposed to give it to him in 2 weeks. I'm not sure if they already gave him a dose today or not. They wouldn't let us come in with him and were super unclear. I tried calling the vet back after I realized my mistake but they are now closed. He's acting pretty lethargic, sleeping a lot, and kinda has glazed eyes, but will still get up for food and to go to the bathroom. But way more sleepy and slow than usual. New pet parent, might be overreacting, but looking for advice.", "c_root_id_A": "fq5kveb", "c_root_id_B": "fq5pey3", "created_at_utc_A": 1589109256, "created_at_utc_B": 1589113677, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 3, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Is it possible to call a different vet and ask about a potential double dose of dewormer?", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 4421.0, "score_ratio": 3.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "ggznso", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.98, "history": "Stupid mistake. Accidentally gave my kitten dewormer 2 weeks before the vet said to. They may have already given him a dose today. Acting very lethargic. My 5-7 week old kitten has roundworms. We took him to the vet today but due to covid they were extremely brief with us. They gave us a syringe of strongid (.2) and I accidentally gave it to him today when I was actually supposed to give it to him in 2 weeks. I'm not sure if they already gave him a dose today or not. They wouldn't let us come in with him and were super unclear. I tried calling the vet back after I realized my mistake but they are now closed. He's acting pretty lethargic, sleeping a lot, and kinda has glazed eyes, but will still get up for food and to go to the bathroom. But way more sleepy and slow than usual. New pet parent, might be overreacting, but looking for advice.", "c_root_id_A": "fq5kveb", "c_root_id_B": "fq64wcj", "created_at_utc_A": 1589109256, "created_at_utc_B": 1589124555, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Out of curiosity did your kitten also get vaccinations today?", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 15299.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "c3k5o3", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Grain free food bad? There is a post on r/dogs right now about an owner that lost their 4 year old golden from something called a DCM. Aim the post the problem was related to the dogs grain free diet. Is this a common side affect of this diet in your personal experience?", "c_root_id_A": "errj5g1", "c_root_id_B": "errhs62", "created_at_utc_A": 1561172154, "created_at_utc_B": 1561170935, "score_A": 20, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "In short yes grain free diets have been linked to DCM and there is no proven benefit to feeding a grain free diet in the first place.  Here is the latest data from the FDA's investigation into the issue  https://www.fda.gov/animal-veterinary/news-events/fda-investigation-potential-link-between-certain-diets-and-canine-dilated-cardiomyopathy", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed.   This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 1219.0, "score_ratio": 20.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "c3k5o3", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Grain free food bad? There is a post on r/dogs right now about an owner that lost their 4 year old golden from something called a DCM. Aim the post the problem was related to the dogs grain free diet. Is this a common side affect of this diet in your personal experience?", "c_root_id_A": "errlxfb", "c_root_id_B": "errhs62", "created_at_utc_A": 1561174705, "created_at_utc_B": 1561170935, "score_A": 5, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "https://www.fda.gov/animal-veterinary/animal-health-literacy/questions-answers-fda-center-veterinary-medicines-investigation-possible-connection-between-diet-and?fbclid=IwAR0Qtp41FqyDuHpeqfwt2pm6IvZBoQc694ADs-IHwkjaz6pORVRhRs5WQA8 This is helpful advice from FDA.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed.   This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 3770.0, "score_ratio": 5.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "396dh6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.93, "history": "Found a kitten covered in oil a few days ago. She is staying on my porch and keeps having seizures. She is probably 6-8 weeks old. I found her crying and converted in oil. Took her home gave her a bath with dawn to remove the oil. She was grateful. She has worms and fleas so I have been giving her wet food mixed with food grade diatomaceous earth for the worms( she pooped 3 times and I didn't notice any worms in the third poop) I can't have her in my house because I have two adult cats and I don't know if she had any other diseases. She had been doing well over all eating wet and dry food and drinking water.   The problem is she keeps freaking out and having seizures. She runs around the porch uncontrollably bumping into things for about 30 seconds to 2 minutes. The first day it happened 4 times and they were 1-2 minutes long and seemed to be bad. Yesterday she had 3 short ones. And today so far she had one short one. I thought it was poisoning from ingesting motor oil but its been 3 days and they and they still happening.   I have zero dollars set aside for this kitten. I'm sure if I had to I could find the money to get her vaccines and fixed when the time comes but I can not afford to take her in for tests. Every place that I have called wants a donation or money to have her seen.   I just want her to be okay it wasn't my intention to keep her I just couldn't let her walk around covered in oil and not do anything.   My main question is how do seizures work when poisoned. Is it normal for them to occur for 3 or more days? Or is this most likely epilepsy or something else? Is there anything I can do to help minimize the seizures? Or does anyone know a place in Central Valley California area that will take a kitten and help them without requiring money?", "c_root_id_A": "cs0tute", "c_root_id_B": "cs0qiho", "created_at_utc_A": 1433873046, "created_at_utc_B": 1433868090, "score_A": 12, "score_B": 11, "human_ref_A": "One approach may be to tell shelters that you are willing to foster the kitten. A lot of shelters won't take in any animals if they don't have room, but may help you take care of the kitten's vet costs and find her a new home when she's better if you can keep her at your house until she's adopted. Either way she absolutely needs to see a vet. Seizures can be caused by lots of different things, not just toxins.", "human_ref_B": "The kitten needs veterinary care. Can you put up an online donation thing to make $100 for the shelter? I know I'd contribute.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 4956.0, "score_ratio": 1.0909090909, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "396dh6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.93, "history": "Found a kitten covered in oil a few days ago. She is staying on my porch and keeps having seizures. She is probably 6-8 weeks old. I found her crying and converted in oil. Took her home gave her a bath with dawn to remove the oil. She was grateful. She has worms and fleas so I have been giving her wet food mixed with food grade diatomaceous earth for the worms( she pooped 3 times and I didn't notice any worms in the third poop) I can't have her in my house because I have two adult cats and I don't know if she had any other diseases. She had been doing well over all eating wet and dry food and drinking water.   The problem is she keeps freaking out and having seizures. She runs around the porch uncontrollably bumping into things for about 30 seconds to 2 minutes. The first day it happened 4 times and they were 1-2 minutes long and seemed to be bad. Yesterday she had 3 short ones. And today so far she had one short one. I thought it was poisoning from ingesting motor oil but its been 3 days and they and they still happening.   I have zero dollars set aside for this kitten. I'm sure if I had to I could find the money to get her vaccines and fixed when the time comes but I can not afford to take her in for tests. Every place that I have called wants a donation or money to have her seen.   I just want her to be okay it wasn't my intention to keep her I just couldn't let her walk around covered in oil and not do anything.   My main question is how do seizures work when poisoned. Is it normal for them to occur for 3 or more days? Or is this most likely epilepsy or something else? Is there anything I can do to help minimize the seizures? Or does anyone know a place in Central Valley California area that will take a kitten and help them without requiring money?", "c_root_id_A": "cs0tute", "c_root_id_B": "cs0plu7", "created_at_utc_A": 1433873046, "created_at_utc_B": 1433866710, "score_A": 12, "score_B": 7, "human_ref_A": "One approach may be to tell shelters that you are willing to foster the kitten. A lot of shelters won't take in any animals if they don't have room, but may help you take care of the kitten's vet costs and find her a new home when she's better if you can keep her at your house until she's adopted. Either way she absolutely needs to see a vet. Seizures can be caused by lots of different things, not just toxins.", "human_ref_B": "I can't help you with information on seizures but have you thought of surrendering her to a no kill shelter? You have pretty much done as much as you can do at home and if she has been poisoned she really does need the correct treatment. I know it is tough and veterinary care can be prohibitively expensive, this may be a case where it's better to give her up because she may not survive otherwise.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 6336.0, "score_ratio": 1.7142857143, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "396dh6", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.93, "history": "Found a kitten covered in oil a few days ago. She is staying on my porch and keeps having seizures. She is probably 6-8 weeks old. I found her crying and converted in oil. Took her home gave her a bath with dawn to remove the oil. She was grateful. She has worms and fleas so I have been giving her wet food mixed with food grade diatomaceous earth for the worms( she pooped 3 times and I didn't notice any worms in the third poop) I can't have her in my house because I have two adult cats and I don't know if she had any other diseases. She had been doing well over all eating wet and dry food and drinking water.   The problem is she keeps freaking out and having seizures. She runs around the porch uncontrollably bumping into things for about 30 seconds to 2 minutes. The first day it happened 4 times and they were 1-2 minutes long and seemed to be bad. Yesterday she had 3 short ones. And today so far she had one short one. I thought it was poisoning from ingesting motor oil but its been 3 days and they and they still happening.   I have zero dollars set aside for this kitten. I'm sure if I had to I could find the money to get her vaccines and fixed when the time comes but I can not afford to take her in for tests. Every place that I have called wants a donation or money to have her seen.   I just want her to be okay it wasn't my intention to keep her I just couldn't let her walk around covered in oil and not do anything.   My main question is how do seizures work when poisoned. Is it normal for them to occur for 3 or more days? Or is this most likely epilepsy or something else? Is there anything I can do to help minimize the seizures? Or does anyone know a place in Central Valley California area that will take a kitten and help them without requiring money?", "c_root_id_A": "cs0qiho", "c_root_id_B": "cs0plu7", "created_at_utc_A": 1433868090, "created_at_utc_B": 1433866710, "score_A": 11, "score_B": 7, "human_ref_A": "The kitten needs veterinary care. Can you put up an online donation thing to make $100 for the shelter? I know I'd contribute.", "human_ref_B": "I can't help you with information on seizures but have you thought of surrendering her to a no kill shelter? You have pretty much done as much as you can do at home and if she has been poisoned she really does need the correct treatment. I know it is tough and veterinary care can be prohibitively expensive, this may be a case where it's better to give her up because she may not survive otherwise.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 1380.0, "score_ratio": 1.5714285714, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "5ekw3f", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.88, "history": "My dog and two cats have fleas. I've started treatment. Is there anything else I can do? My dog (8 year old collie/husky/golden mutt) and two cats (both 6 years old) have fleas. We gave both cats flea baths, and are waiting a day or two before giving them the topical medicine. We gave the dog the topical medicine right away, no bath. We also got flea killing carpet cleaner that we are going to use around the house. None of them have bedding they regularly use, they all like to sleep on the carpet.   Is there anything I'm missing? Also, if the topical otc medicine does not work, is it safe to try an oral otc medicine to try again right away, or do we have to wait a month?  Location: Wisconsin  Medical history: probably not relevant for this particular question", "c_root_id_A": "dadd3qw", "c_root_id_B": "dadefko", "created_at_utc_A": 1479957909, "created_at_utc_B": 1479960055, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 3, "human_ref_A": "Talk to your vet about combining multiple products if you think you need/want to do that, they will be the best advice in that regard. As for the carpet cleaner, when you're vacuuming, make sure you get into all the cracks and crevices you normally wouldn't think to vacuum- between couch cushions, along your baseboards, curtains, anywhere the animals frequent, etc. Doing laundry (animal bedding, bed sheets, etc.) all on one day can help, and treating your yard can help as well. In the end, a lot of hard work for a few days can make a big difference in the long term.", "human_ref_B": "Also since they are probably in the environment make sure you do at least 3 consecutive months of treatment (if not year round) to ensure the entire life stage of the fleas are taken care of. Also monitor stool for tapeworms, which look like little grains of rice.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 2146.0, "score_ratio": 1.5, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xxcaim", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.93, "history": "Cat has small amount of blood in pee and using toilet more often Species Cat Age 11 Weight 5-6kg History indoor cat has had bladder blockage before several years ago Symptoms small amount of blood and constantly using litter tray Location UK  Hi,  My cat has recently started using the toilet more then normal and spending longer scraping in the litter train. When this initially happened  on Tuesday I checked his pee and there was no blood and they were large. However I noticed today when changing the tray there was a small amount of blood with the  pee but still pee there. He used the tray Infront of me and didn't appear to be straining. There are no other behavioural changes he's running/jumping the same as normal eating his food and demanding rubs.  Previously when he had a bladder blockage he was in the litter for an extended period scraping  and lethargic.  He has access to a drinking fountain for water and I am still having to top this up at the same rate as before.  He eats dry food and has always done.  Looking to call the vet first thing tomorrow however wanted to get any information advice possible first.  Thanks.", "c_root_id_A": "irbf71z", "c_root_id_B": "irb8u89", "created_at_utc_A": 1665083068, "created_at_utc_B": 1665080473, "score_A": 47, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Take him to the vet as soon as you can. Older cats, especially male cats, can go downhill fast with urinary issues. It may be a UTI, which is deadly if left untreated. At least get a urine sample so they can rule out an infection and go from there.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 2595.0, "score_ratio": 47.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xxcaim", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.93, "history": "Cat has small amount of blood in pee and using toilet more often Species Cat Age 11 Weight 5-6kg History indoor cat has had bladder blockage before several years ago Symptoms small amount of blood and constantly using litter tray Location UK  Hi,  My cat has recently started using the toilet more then normal and spending longer scraping in the litter train. When this initially happened  on Tuesday I checked his pee and there was no blood and they were large. However I noticed today when changing the tray there was a small amount of blood with the  pee but still pee there. He used the tray Infront of me and didn't appear to be straining. There are no other behavioural changes he's running/jumping the same as normal eating his food and demanding rubs.  Previously when he had a bladder blockage he was in the litter for an extended period scraping  and lethargic.  He has access to a drinking fountain for water and I am still having to top this up at the same rate as before.  He eats dry food and has always done.  Looking to call the vet first thing tomorrow however wanted to get any information advice possible first.  Thanks.", "c_root_id_A": "irb8u89", "c_root_id_B": "irbghon", "created_at_utc_A": 1665080473, "created_at_utc_B": 1665083610, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 18, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Please take your cat to the vet. Anything related to the urinary tract is not to be taken lightly.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 3137.0, "score_ratio": 18.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xxcaim", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.93, "history": "Cat has small amount of blood in pee and using toilet more often Species Cat Age 11 Weight 5-6kg History indoor cat has had bladder blockage before several years ago Symptoms small amount of blood and constantly using litter tray Location UK  Hi,  My cat has recently started using the toilet more then normal and spending longer scraping in the litter train. When this initially happened  on Tuesday I checked his pee and there was no blood and they were large. However I noticed today when changing the tray there was a small amount of blood with the  pee but still pee there. He used the tray Infront of me and didn't appear to be straining. There are no other behavioural changes he's running/jumping the same as normal eating his food and demanding rubs.  Previously when he had a bladder blockage he was in the litter for an extended period scraping  and lethargic.  He has access to a drinking fountain for water and I am still having to top this up at the same rate as before.  He eats dry food and has always done.  Looking to call the vet first thing tomorrow however wanted to get any information advice possible first.  Thanks.", "c_root_id_A": "irc4r5r", "c_root_id_B": "irb8u89", "created_at_utc_A": 1665094193, "created_at_utc_B": 1665080473, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Any changes in a cats toilet habits should be noted, and taken to the vet asap.   Like others have said, especially if previously urinary blockages have happened before, you should be hyper cautious of these changes.  If you have it at home and you are able to collect it, use the collection kits to collect urine. They sell some that look like sand and are hydrophobic, just make sure you follow the instructions and use gloves to keep the sample clean. I had to buy 2-4 for it to look accommodating enough. Take the sample to the vet and they\u2019ll be able to analyse, and you\u2019ll save some time. Keep the sample in the fridge overnight.  If you\u2019re up to it, in the UK there is an online service to call a Vet for 15m, which should help ease some of your concerns. Its called First Vet and its an app for your phone. They are gonna tell you the same at the end: go to your regular vet and get your catto seen, but they will explain the lever of urgency.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 13720.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "hbzdb3", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.99, "history": "Dog threw up something she ate 2 weeks ago My dog is a 13 year old female pitmix we have had for 8.5 years now. She never eats anything that isn\u2019t food but two weeks ago we missed her dinner time and came home to a pillowcase missing a strip of fabric. We have 2 dogs so we weren\u2019t sure who did it at first. We have them both pumpkin for a week and never saw it come out. Well she had a full vet exam just this Monday, 4 days ago, we mentioned the pillowcase but they didn\u2019t seem concerned. She had thrown up her food that morning but her bloodwork came back normal. Well this morning she was acting weird and kept having labored breathing and would cough and it smelled so bad. Then she woke me up doing it again I started to walk her outside and she throws up the pillowcase. I don\u2019t know how this is possible as it\u2019s been 2 weeks and it appears to be in one piece. She pooped this entire time, ate and drank normally. Maybe more water now that I think about it but still. The vet didn\u2019t even catch it.   How is this possible? And should we be concerned?? TIA", "c_root_id_A": "fvbz5pp", "c_root_id_B": "fvbv7x9", "created_at_utc_A": 1592570610, "created_at_utc_B": 1592567708, "score_A": 70, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "It's possible because it's just been sitting in her stomach this whole time. Your vet didn't notice because there would be no way to tell until it started causing problems, it wouldn't affect blood results at all.  As long as she doesn't continue to vomit and is just acting her normal self then I wouldn't be concerned. If she seems unwell then call your vet", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 2902.0, "score_ratio": 70.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "s41xil", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.78, "history": "Not sure if the dosage of medicine is okay for my dog. Hi- i just need a little common sense check.My dog was prescribed  gabapentin 300 mg 2 pills 2 times a day ( total of 1200 mg a day) and her weight is 79 lbs. she is med size and about 15 lbs overweight. I gave her today the first dosage and she became very sleepy. She has leg injury and vet could not figure out what was exactly the problem, most likely partially torn ligament. I am concerned with amount she was prescribed. 1) she became very lethargic and sleepy soon. 2). Two months ago another vet also prescribed her same medicine except it was 300 mg 1 pill 2 times a day (total is 600 mg). She isn\u2019t usually on any drugs and this is 2 time she received it.    I am concerned with amount of dose and her sleepiness. Is the ratio realistic and  okay for dog? It makes 15 mg a day per pound.  I don\u2019t wanna contact vet if its really something no concern but don\u2019t wanna sit back and follow mindless the directions. Is it within an acceptable dosage for a dog?  What are the signs i should observe my dog for next few hours/days?  Thank you for your attention", "c_root_id_A": "hsoj40g", "c_root_id_B": "hsobmmj", "created_at_utc_A": 1642195370, "created_at_utc_B": 1642192495, "score_A": 15, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Gabapentin has a wide range of safety, but at higher doses and depending on the dog's degree of sensitivity it can definitely cause sleepiness. Alert your vet to the side effects you're seeing and they may choose to modify the dose.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 2875.0, "score_ratio": 15.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "s41xil", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.78, "history": "Not sure if the dosage of medicine is okay for my dog. Hi- i just need a little common sense check.My dog was prescribed  gabapentin 300 mg 2 pills 2 times a day ( total of 1200 mg a day) and her weight is 79 lbs. she is med size and about 15 lbs overweight. I gave her today the first dosage and she became very sleepy. She has leg injury and vet could not figure out what was exactly the problem, most likely partially torn ligament. I am concerned with amount she was prescribed. 1) she became very lethargic and sleepy soon. 2). Two months ago another vet also prescribed her same medicine except it was 300 mg 1 pill 2 times a day (total is 600 mg). She isn\u2019t usually on any drugs and this is 2 time she received it.    I am concerned with amount of dose and her sleepiness. Is the ratio realistic and  okay for dog? It makes 15 mg a day per pound.  I don\u2019t wanna contact vet if its really something no concern but don\u2019t wanna sit back and follow mindless the directions. Is it within an acceptable dosage for a dog?  What are the signs i should observe my dog for next few hours/days?  Thank you for your attention", "c_root_id_A": "hsobmmj", "c_root_id_B": "hsp2rvy", "created_at_utc_A": 1642192495, "created_at_utc_B": 1642203350, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "As others have stated, this is within the acceptable dose range. I would call your vet to discuss the side effects and a potential dose reduction.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 10855.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xeyem1", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.96, "history": "How can I give my extremely difficult cat medication? Hi all. I have a 12 year old shelter cat that I\u2019ve had for 1.5 years. I am at my wits end trying to give this cat any medicine. He is the sort of cat that is extremely snuggly and loving, but he cannot be picked up or held in place forcibly because he will freak out. He will not stop wiggling and scratching until he manages to worm himself free (which he always does, he\u2019s very hard to pin down, even with a blanket) and he will NOT trust me for at least two days after, always hiding behind furniture and being very wary of me. I have tried with my roommates as well and he goes all exorcist on us. Even vets have had a hard time getting him to take anything.   He\u2019s also a very picky eater, so hiding medicine in food is impossible. If he senses anything weird with his food he will not even attempt to eat it.    So how am I meant to give him medicine 2 times a day for multiple days, if even after trying once he will run away and hide from me for days. I don\u2019t want to traumatise him and for him to distrust me, because it has taken a lot of work to get to this point where he likes being by my side. Does anyone have any tips, please?", "c_root_id_A": "iojoyxc", "c_root_id_B": "iojaelq", "created_at_utc_A": 1663258167, "created_at_utc_B": 1663252513, "score_A": 27, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I do Greenies Pill Pockets for pills, and the vet compounds a few pills into a liquid, which I mix with puree-style food. Have to keep a few varities of pp flavors around, because my cat will be all about salmon one week and want tuna the next (fyi: the company is stopping production on the tuna flavor). There are some dog-centric flavors as well, and also, competing brands.  My cat was sus of the pills at first, too, and spit them out or ate around them, but it just took time and rewarding the behavior. I always treated \"medicine time\" as a big-deal treat-time. If you've ever done any clicker positive-reinforcement training, use that. Bring favorite non-pill pocket treats to the \"session\". Start by inserting bits of other yummy foods--\"treats\"--into the pill pockets while he watchs you, then present the pp as you would if it had a pill in it. Then use the clicker and reward with a full \"treat\" once the cat consumes the pp and the pill. Change up what you insert in the pill pocket.   (Hint: make the pills as small as possible given the type of pill they are; i.e., if you can split them into small pieces and wrap with a bite-sized piece of pocket, do. If it's a capsule, try to use just enough pp material that he bites into the pocket and not the treat, but can still swallow the pill AND some pocket together. If there's too much pp, they'll just use their tongue to separate it and spit out the pill=they taste gross pill=I never want to eat that again.)  Do special treat time a few times a day, on the dosing schedule, and make it special play, treat, (and pet, if possible) time. Switch up what you insert in the pp, and *let him watch you put the treat in and sniff it.* THIS IS IMPORTANT. He may run away when he realizes you have a pill in your hand, which is why it's important to form the positive association with \"treat time\" and non-pilled pockets first.   When you think you've got his trust, begin to insert small doses of pill (big enough to see you put in the pill and small enough to add \"treat\" insert, too. Just enough so if the pill gets out of the pp when he bites down, he won't p\u00e1nic. A big part is letting him sniff and see what pill you're putting in, knowing it might taste yucky, but knowing you wouldn't hurt him and that the treat and attention are better, overall.  Good luck on the ears....luckily, mine submits mostly once the \"towel hug of death\" comes out.  Edits: grammar & increased detail", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 5654.0, "score_ratio": 27.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xeyem1", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.96, "history": "How can I give my extremely difficult cat medication? Hi all. I have a 12 year old shelter cat that I\u2019ve had for 1.5 years. I am at my wits end trying to give this cat any medicine. He is the sort of cat that is extremely snuggly and loving, but he cannot be picked up or held in place forcibly because he will freak out. He will not stop wiggling and scratching until he manages to worm himself free (which he always does, he\u2019s very hard to pin down, even with a blanket) and he will NOT trust me for at least two days after, always hiding behind furniture and being very wary of me. I have tried with my roommates as well and he goes all exorcist on us. Even vets have had a hard time getting him to take anything.   He\u2019s also a very picky eater, so hiding medicine in food is impossible. If he senses anything weird with his food he will not even attempt to eat it.    So how am I meant to give him medicine 2 times a day for multiple days, if even after trying once he will run away and hide from me for days. I don\u2019t want to traumatise him and for him to distrust me, because it has taken a lot of work to get to this point where he likes being by my side. Does anyone have any tips, please?", "c_root_id_A": "iojs3ep", "c_root_id_B": "iojaelq", "created_at_utc_A": 1663259356, "created_at_utc_B": 1663252513, "score_A": 18, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Any chance you can put the medicine on the top of his paws? I know it seems like a terrible idea but usually cats are such obsessive groomers that if you get the medicine (if liquid enough) dispensed onto the top of his front paws he will groom it off and ingest it. Worth a try?", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 6843.0, "score_ratio": 18.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xeyem1", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.96, "history": "How can I give my extremely difficult cat medication? Hi all. I have a 12 year old shelter cat that I\u2019ve had for 1.5 years. I am at my wits end trying to give this cat any medicine. He is the sort of cat that is extremely snuggly and loving, but he cannot be picked up or held in place forcibly because he will freak out. He will not stop wiggling and scratching until he manages to worm himself free (which he always does, he\u2019s very hard to pin down, even with a blanket) and he will NOT trust me for at least two days after, always hiding behind furniture and being very wary of me. I have tried with my roommates as well and he goes all exorcist on us. Even vets have had a hard time getting him to take anything.   He\u2019s also a very picky eater, so hiding medicine in food is impossible. If he senses anything weird with his food he will not even attempt to eat it.    So how am I meant to give him medicine 2 times a day for multiple days, if even after trying once he will run away and hide from me for days. I don\u2019t want to traumatise him and for him to distrust me, because it has taken a lot of work to get to this point where he likes being by my side. Does anyone have any tips, please?", "c_root_id_A": "iojit5p", "c_root_id_B": "iojaelq", "created_at_utc_A": 1663255794, "created_at_utc_B": 1663252513, "score_A": 10, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Depending on what the medication is some can be compounded into transdermal versions.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 3281.0, "score_ratio": 10.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xeyem1", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.96, "history": "How can I give my extremely difficult cat medication? Hi all. I have a 12 year old shelter cat that I\u2019ve had for 1.5 years. I am at my wits end trying to give this cat any medicine. He is the sort of cat that is extremely snuggly and loving, but he cannot be picked up or held in place forcibly because he will freak out. He will not stop wiggling and scratching until he manages to worm himself free (which he always does, he\u2019s very hard to pin down, even with a blanket) and he will NOT trust me for at least two days after, always hiding behind furniture and being very wary of me. I have tried with my roommates as well and he goes all exorcist on us. Even vets have had a hard time getting him to take anything.   He\u2019s also a very picky eater, so hiding medicine in food is impossible. If he senses anything weird with his food he will not even attempt to eat it.    So how am I meant to give him medicine 2 times a day for multiple days, if even after trying once he will run away and hide from me for days. I don\u2019t want to traumatise him and for him to distrust me, because it has taken a lot of work to get to this point where he likes being by my side. Does anyone have any tips, please?", "c_root_id_A": "iojaelq", "c_root_id_B": "iokfn7g", "created_at_utc_A": 1663252513, "created_at_utc_B": 1663268528, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 8, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "My calico is super difficult when it comes to meds. I finally found these Temptation\u2019s Creamy Purrrree, Chicken flavor is her favorite flavor and she can\u2019t resist. I crush up any pill and mix it and let it sit for a minute and she licks it right up.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 16015.0, "score_ratio": 8.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xeyem1", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.96, "history": "How can I give my extremely difficult cat medication? Hi all. I have a 12 year old shelter cat that I\u2019ve had for 1.5 years. I am at my wits end trying to give this cat any medicine. He is the sort of cat that is extremely snuggly and loving, but he cannot be picked up or held in place forcibly because he will freak out. He will not stop wiggling and scratching until he manages to worm himself free (which he always does, he\u2019s very hard to pin down, even with a blanket) and he will NOT trust me for at least two days after, always hiding behind furniture and being very wary of me. I have tried with my roommates as well and he goes all exorcist on us. Even vets have had a hard time getting him to take anything.   He\u2019s also a very picky eater, so hiding medicine in food is impossible. If he senses anything weird with his food he will not even attempt to eat it.    So how am I meant to give him medicine 2 times a day for multiple days, if even after trying once he will run away and hide from me for days. I don\u2019t want to traumatise him and for him to distrust me, because it has taken a lot of work to get to this point where he likes being by my side. Does anyone have any tips, please?", "c_root_id_A": "iojaelq", "c_root_id_B": "iokmbp3", "created_at_utc_A": 1663252513, "created_at_utc_B": 1663271156, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 6, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "If it's a liquid you could try putting it on his paws. Cats hate being dirty and will lick it off", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 18643.0, "score_ratio": 6.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xeyem1", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.96, "history": "How can I give my extremely difficult cat medication? Hi all. I have a 12 year old shelter cat that I\u2019ve had for 1.5 years. I am at my wits end trying to give this cat any medicine. He is the sort of cat that is extremely snuggly and loving, but he cannot be picked up or held in place forcibly because he will freak out. He will not stop wiggling and scratching until he manages to worm himself free (which he always does, he\u2019s very hard to pin down, even with a blanket) and he will NOT trust me for at least two days after, always hiding behind furniture and being very wary of me. I have tried with my roommates as well and he goes all exorcist on us. Even vets have had a hard time getting him to take anything.   He\u2019s also a very picky eater, so hiding medicine in food is impossible. If he senses anything weird with his food he will not even attempt to eat it.    So how am I meant to give him medicine 2 times a day for multiple days, if even after trying once he will run away and hide from me for days. I don\u2019t want to traumatise him and for him to distrust me, because it has taken a lot of work to get to this point where he likes being by my side. Does anyone have any tips, please?", "c_root_id_A": "iokru98", "c_root_id_B": "iojaelq", "created_at_utc_A": 1663273319, "created_at_utc_B": 1663252513, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Chat to the vet, they may be able to give a long acting or injectable form at the time of the consultation.  This might be a little more expensive,  but if it reduces stress and ensures that your cat is getting the right medication  then it's worth it.  The bond of trust between you and your cat is super important and your vet should be able to work with you to find other ways of treating him without compromising this.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 20806.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xeyem1", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.96, "history": "How can I give my extremely difficult cat medication? Hi all. I have a 12 year old shelter cat that I\u2019ve had for 1.5 years. I am at my wits end trying to give this cat any medicine. He is the sort of cat that is extremely snuggly and loving, but he cannot be picked up or held in place forcibly because he will freak out. He will not stop wiggling and scratching until he manages to worm himself free (which he always does, he\u2019s very hard to pin down, even with a blanket) and he will NOT trust me for at least two days after, always hiding behind furniture and being very wary of me. I have tried with my roommates as well and he goes all exorcist on us. Even vets have had a hard time getting him to take anything.   He\u2019s also a very picky eater, so hiding medicine in food is impossible. If he senses anything weird with his food he will not even attempt to eat it.    So how am I meant to give him medicine 2 times a day for multiple days, if even after trying once he will run away and hide from me for days. I don\u2019t want to traumatise him and for him to distrust me, because it has taken a lot of work to get to this point where he likes being by my side. Does anyone have any tips, please?", "c_root_id_A": "iojoyxc", "c_root_id_B": "iojit5p", "created_at_utc_A": 1663258167, "created_at_utc_B": 1663255794, "score_A": 27, "score_B": 10, "human_ref_A": "I do Greenies Pill Pockets for pills, and the vet compounds a few pills into a liquid, which I mix with puree-style food. Have to keep a few varities of pp flavors around, because my cat will be all about salmon one week and want tuna the next (fyi: the company is stopping production on the tuna flavor). There are some dog-centric flavors as well, and also, competing brands.  My cat was sus of the pills at first, too, and spit them out or ate around them, but it just took time and rewarding the behavior. I always treated \"medicine time\" as a big-deal treat-time. If you've ever done any clicker positive-reinforcement training, use that. Bring favorite non-pill pocket treats to the \"session\". Start by inserting bits of other yummy foods--\"treats\"--into the pill pockets while he watchs you, then present the pp as you would if it had a pill in it. Then use the clicker and reward with a full \"treat\" once the cat consumes the pp and the pill. Change up what you insert in the pill pocket.   (Hint: make the pills as small as possible given the type of pill they are; i.e., if you can split them into small pieces and wrap with a bite-sized piece of pocket, do. If it's a capsule, try to use just enough pp material that he bites into the pocket and not the treat, but can still swallow the pill AND some pocket together. If there's too much pp, they'll just use their tongue to separate it and spit out the pill=they taste gross pill=I never want to eat that again.)  Do special treat time a few times a day, on the dosing schedule, and make it special play, treat, (and pet, if possible) time. Switch up what you insert in the pp, and *let him watch you put the treat in and sniff it.* THIS IS IMPORTANT. He may run away when he realizes you have a pill in your hand, which is why it's important to form the positive association with \"treat time\" and non-pilled pockets first.   When you think you've got his trust, begin to insert small doses of pill (big enough to see you put in the pill and small enough to add \"treat\" insert, too. Just enough so if the pill gets out of the pp when he bites down, he won't p\u00e1nic. A big part is letting him sniff and see what pill you're putting in, knowing it might taste yucky, but knowing you wouldn't hurt him and that the treat and attention are better, overall.  Good luck on the ears....luckily, mine submits mostly once the \"towel hug of death\" comes out.  Edits: grammar & increased detail", "human_ref_B": "Depending on what the medication is some can be compounded into transdermal versions.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 2373.0, "score_ratio": 2.7, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xeyem1", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.96, "history": "How can I give my extremely difficult cat medication? Hi all. I have a 12 year old shelter cat that I\u2019ve had for 1.5 years. I am at my wits end trying to give this cat any medicine. He is the sort of cat that is extremely snuggly and loving, but he cannot be picked up or held in place forcibly because he will freak out. He will not stop wiggling and scratching until he manages to worm himself free (which he always does, he\u2019s very hard to pin down, even with a blanket) and he will NOT trust me for at least two days after, always hiding behind furniture and being very wary of me. I have tried with my roommates as well and he goes all exorcist on us. Even vets have had a hard time getting him to take anything.   He\u2019s also a very picky eater, so hiding medicine in food is impossible. If he senses anything weird with his food he will not even attempt to eat it.    So how am I meant to give him medicine 2 times a day for multiple days, if even after trying once he will run away and hide from me for days. I don\u2019t want to traumatise him and for him to distrust me, because it has taken a lot of work to get to this point where he likes being by my side. Does anyone have any tips, please?", "c_root_id_A": "iojkvms", "c_root_id_B": "iojoyxc", "created_at_utc_A": 1663256590, "created_at_utc_B": 1663258167, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 27, "human_ref_A": "You didn't mention what form of medicine it is. Liquid, solid, pill, eyedrops?", "human_ref_B": "I do Greenies Pill Pockets for pills, and the vet compounds a few pills into a liquid, which I mix with puree-style food. Have to keep a few varities of pp flavors around, because my cat will be all about salmon one week and want tuna the next (fyi: the company is stopping production on the tuna flavor). There are some dog-centric flavors as well, and also, competing brands.  My cat was sus of the pills at first, too, and spit them out or ate around them, but it just took time and rewarding the behavior. I always treated \"medicine time\" as a big-deal treat-time. If you've ever done any clicker positive-reinforcement training, use that. Bring favorite non-pill pocket treats to the \"session\". Start by inserting bits of other yummy foods--\"treats\"--into the pill pockets while he watchs you, then present the pp as you would if it had a pill in it. Then use the clicker and reward with a full \"treat\" once the cat consumes the pp and the pill. Change up what you insert in the pill pocket.   (Hint: make the pills as small as possible given the type of pill they are; i.e., if you can split them into small pieces and wrap with a bite-sized piece of pocket, do. If it's a capsule, try to use just enough pp material that he bites into the pocket and not the treat, but can still swallow the pill AND some pocket together. If there's too much pp, they'll just use their tongue to separate it and spit out the pill=they taste gross pill=I never want to eat that again.)  Do special treat time a few times a day, on the dosing schedule, and make it special play, treat, (and pet, if possible) time. Switch up what you insert in the pp, and *let him watch you put the treat in and sniff it.* THIS IS IMPORTANT. He may run away when he realizes you have a pill in your hand, which is why it's important to form the positive association with \"treat time\" and non-pilled pockets first.   When you think you've got his trust, begin to insert small doses of pill (big enough to see you put in the pill and small enough to add \"treat\" insert, too. Just enough so if the pill gets out of the pp when he bites down, he won't p\u00e1nic. A big part is letting him sniff and see what pill you're putting in, knowing it might taste yucky, but knowing you wouldn't hurt him and that the treat and attention are better, overall.  Good luck on the ears....luckily, mine submits mostly once the \"towel hug of death\" comes out.  Edits: grammar & increased detail", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 1577.0, "score_ratio": 27.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xeyem1", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.96, "history": "How can I give my extremely difficult cat medication? Hi all. I have a 12 year old shelter cat that I\u2019ve had for 1.5 years. I am at my wits end trying to give this cat any medicine. He is the sort of cat that is extremely snuggly and loving, but he cannot be picked up or held in place forcibly because he will freak out. He will not stop wiggling and scratching until he manages to worm himself free (which he always does, he\u2019s very hard to pin down, even with a blanket) and he will NOT trust me for at least two days after, always hiding behind furniture and being very wary of me. I have tried with my roommates as well and he goes all exorcist on us. Even vets have had a hard time getting him to take anything.   He\u2019s also a very picky eater, so hiding medicine in food is impossible. If he senses anything weird with his food he will not even attempt to eat it.    So how am I meant to give him medicine 2 times a day for multiple days, if even after trying once he will run away and hide from me for days. I don\u2019t want to traumatise him and for him to distrust me, because it has taken a lot of work to get to this point where he likes being by my side. Does anyone have any tips, please?", "c_root_id_A": "iojs3ep", "c_root_id_B": "iojit5p", "created_at_utc_A": 1663259356, "created_at_utc_B": 1663255794, "score_A": 18, "score_B": 10, "human_ref_A": "Any chance you can put the medicine on the top of his paws? I know it seems like a terrible idea but usually cats are such obsessive groomers that if you get the medicine (if liquid enough) dispensed onto the top of his front paws he will groom it off and ingest it. Worth a try?", "human_ref_B": "Depending on what the medication is some can be compounded into transdermal versions.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 3562.0, "score_ratio": 1.8, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xeyem1", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.96, "history": "How can I give my extremely difficult cat medication? Hi all. I have a 12 year old shelter cat that I\u2019ve had for 1.5 years. I am at my wits end trying to give this cat any medicine. He is the sort of cat that is extremely snuggly and loving, but he cannot be picked up or held in place forcibly because he will freak out. He will not stop wiggling and scratching until he manages to worm himself free (which he always does, he\u2019s very hard to pin down, even with a blanket) and he will NOT trust me for at least two days after, always hiding behind furniture and being very wary of me. I have tried with my roommates as well and he goes all exorcist on us. Even vets have had a hard time getting him to take anything.   He\u2019s also a very picky eater, so hiding medicine in food is impossible. If he senses anything weird with his food he will not even attempt to eat it.    So how am I meant to give him medicine 2 times a day for multiple days, if even after trying once he will run away and hide from me for days. I don\u2019t want to traumatise him and for him to distrust me, because it has taken a lot of work to get to this point where he likes being by my side. Does anyone have any tips, please?", "c_root_id_A": "iojs3ep", "c_root_id_B": "iojkvms", "created_at_utc_A": 1663259356, "created_at_utc_B": 1663256590, "score_A": 18, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Any chance you can put the medicine on the top of his paws? I know it seems like a terrible idea but usually cats are such obsessive groomers that if you get the medicine (if liquid enough) dispensed onto the top of his front paws he will groom it off and ingest it. Worth a try?", "human_ref_B": "You didn't mention what form of medicine it is. Liquid, solid, pill, eyedrops?", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 2766.0, "score_ratio": 18.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xeyem1", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.96, "history": "How can I give my extremely difficult cat medication? Hi all. I have a 12 year old shelter cat that I\u2019ve had for 1.5 years. I am at my wits end trying to give this cat any medicine. He is the sort of cat that is extremely snuggly and loving, but he cannot be picked up or held in place forcibly because he will freak out. He will not stop wiggling and scratching until he manages to worm himself free (which he always does, he\u2019s very hard to pin down, even with a blanket) and he will NOT trust me for at least two days after, always hiding behind furniture and being very wary of me. I have tried with my roommates as well and he goes all exorcist on us. Even vets have had a hard time getting him to take anything.   He\u2019s also a very picky eater, so hiding medicine in food is impossible. If he senses anything weird with his food he will not even attempt to eat it.    So how am I meant to give him medicine 2 times a day for multiple days, if even after trying once he will run away and hide from me for days. I don\u2019t want to traumatise him and for him to distrust me, because it has taken a lot of work to get to this point where he likes being by my side. Does anyone have any tips, please?", "c_root_id_A": "iojkvms", "c_root_id_B": "iokfn7g", "created_at_utc_A": 1663256590, "created_at_utc_B": 1663268528, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 8, "human_ref_A": "You didn't mention what form of medicine it is. Liquid, solid, pill, eyedrops?", "human_ref_B": "My calico is super difficult when it comes to meds. I finally found these Temptation\u2019s Creamy Purrrree, Chicken flavor is her favorite flavor and she can\u2019t resist. I crush up any pill and mix it and let it sit for a minute and she licks it right up.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 11938.0, "score_ratio": 8.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xeyem1", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.96, "history": "How can I give my extremely difficult cat medication? Hi all. I have a 12 year old shelter cat that I\u2019ve had for 1.5 years. I am at my wits end trying to give this cat any medicine. He is the sort of cat that is extremely snuggly and loving, but he cannot be picked up or held in place forcibly because he will freak out. He will not stop wiggling and scratching until he manages to worm himself free (which he always does, he\u2019s very hard to pin down, even with a blanket) and he will NOT trust me for at least two days after, always hiding behind furniture and being very wary of me. I have tried with my roommates as well and he goes all exorcist on us. Even vets have had a hard time getting him to take anything.   He\u2019s also a very picky eater, so hiding medicine in food is impossible. If he senses anything weird with his food he will not even attempt to eat it.    So how am I meant to give him medicine 2 times a day for multiple days, if even after trying once he will run away and hide from me for days. I don\u2019t want to traumatise him and for him to distrust me, because it has taken a lot of work to get to this point where he likes being by my side. Does anyone have any tips, please?", "c_root_id_A": "iokmbp3", "c_root_id_B": "iojkvms", "created_at_utc_A": 1663271156, "created_at_utc_B": 1663256590, "score_A": 6, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "If it's a liquid you could try putting it on his paws. Cats hate being dirty and will lick it off", "human_ref_B": "You didn't mention what form of medicine it is. Liquid, solid, pill, eyedrops?", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 14566.0, "score_ratio": 6.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "xeyem1", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.96, "history": "How can I give my extremely difficult cat medication? Hi all. I have a 12 year old shelter cat that I\u2019ve had for 1.5 years. I am at my wits end trying to give this cat any medicine. He is the sort of cat that is extremely snuggly and loving, but he cannot be picked up or held in place forcibly because he will freak out. He will not stop wiggling and scratching until he manages to worm himself free (which he always does, he\u2019s very hard to pin down, even with a blanket) and he will NOT trust me for at least two days after, always hiding behind furniture and being very wary of me. I have tried with my roommates as well and he goes all exorcist on us. Even vets have had a hard time getting him to take anything.   He\u2019s also a very picky eater, so hiding medicine in food is impossible. If he senses anything weird with his food he will not even attempt to eat it.    So how am I meant to give him medicine 2 times a day for multiple days, if even after trying once he will run away and hide from me for days. I don\u2019t want to traumatise him and for him to distrust me, because it has taken a lot of work to get to this point where he likes being by my side. Does anyone have any tips, please?", "c_root_id_A": "iokru98", "c_root_id_B": "iojkvms", "created_at_utc_A": 1663273319, "created_at_utc_B": 1663256590, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Chat to the vet, they may be able to give a long acting or injectable form at the time of the consultation.  This might be a little more expensive,  but if it reduces stress and ensures that your cat is getting the right medication  then it's worth it.  The bond of trust between you and your cat is super important and your vet should be able to work with you to find other ways of treating him without compromising this.", "human_ref_B": "You didn't mention what form of medicine it is. Liquid, solid, pill, eyedrops?", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 16729.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "exy7tq", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.91, "history": "At loss. My dog looks like he's going to die anytime soon. Please HELP! * **Species: Dog** * **Age: 11 months** * **Sex/Neuter status: Male. Neutered.**  * **Breed: Shiba Inu**  * **Body weight: Was 9kg. Now 8kg.** * **History:**   Has been shedding fur but the shed got out of control! Suspecting mites, we took him to the local vet which she said it's allergy. Since he's been eating the same food for eons and showed no signs of diarrhea or vomiting to the food, we ruled out food allergy. We keep him in a sterile crate for the moment and indoors in case it's allergens outdoors. We avoid taking him to areas with overgrown grass and bushes except to pee and poo and we make it real quick.   He was placed on allergy meds. It stopped the itching but did not stop the fur loss. Now he's losing a lot of weight. I can feel his ribs and backbone. It is bad. His neck has bald patches now.   We took him to the vet another time and the vet said that he has yeast infection. She was sure this was no mange as the scraping did not show anything. However, I am aware that sometimes the mites don't show up on the microscope, especially if the dog is regularly bathed. That was our case. We bathe him twice a month at the groomer's. The groomer suspects mange too and kept complaining that we should not bring our dog in until he's \"sorted out\"  He's so skinny now that he barely weighs 8kg. He drinks water regularly, pees and poops normally and displays no other signs that would suggest allergies or gastro issues.    * **Clinical signs:** Losing so much fur to the point we can see generalized bald patches. Biting his tail. Scratching his ear. Crusty red lesions on bald patches of skin.    * **Duration: It's been almost a month now due to the back and forth with the vet.**  * **Your general location: In Malaysia.**  * **Links to test results, vet reports, X-rays etc. NONE. Darn vet just said it's allergy without doing any blood work. I'm going back to the vet to ask for one. :(**", "c_root_id_A": "fge1q5u", "c_root_id_B": "fge7822", "created_at_utc_A": 1580689536, "created_at_utc_B": 1580692951, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 53, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed.   This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "If your dog is losing weight in addition to the skin concerns, bloodwork to look for other potential illnesses is a good idea. There are no reliable blood tests for allergies, but you can discuss with your vet doing a diagnostic food trial and/or referring to a veterinary dermatologist if that is available in Malaysia.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 3415.0, "score_ratio": 53.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "exy7tq", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.91, "history": "At loss. My dog looks like he's going to die anytime soon. Please HELP! * **Species: Dog** * **Age: 11 months** * **Sex/Neuter status: Male. Neutered.**  * **Breed: Shiba Inu**  * **Body weight: Was 9kg. Now 8kg.** * **History:**   Has been shedding fur but the shed got out of control! Suspecting mites, we took him to the local vet which she said it's allergy. Since he's been eating the same food for eons and showed no signs of diarrhea or vomiting to the food, we ruled out food allergy. We keep him in a sterile crate for the moment and indoors in case it's allergens outdoors. We avoid taking him to areas with overgrown grass and bushes except to pee and poo and we make it real quick.   He was placed on allergy meds. It stopped the itching but did not stop the fur loss. Now he's losing a lot of weight. I can feel his ribs and backbone. It is bad. His neck has bald patches now.   We took him to the vet another time and the vet said that he has yeast infection. She was sure this was no mange as the scraping did not show anything. However, I am aware that sometimes the mites don't show up on the microscope, especially if the dog is regularly bathed. That was our case. We bathe him twice a month at the groomer's. The groomer suspects mange too and kept complaining that we should not bring our dog in until he's \"sorted out\"  He's so skinny now that he barely weighs 8kg. He drinks water regularly, pees and poops normally and displays no other signs that would suggest allergies or gastro issues.    * **Clinical signs:** Losing so much fur to the point we can see generalized bald patches. Biting his tail. Scratching his ear. Crusty red lesions on bald patches of skin.    * **Duration: It's been almost a month now due to the back and forth with the vet.**  * **Your general location: In Malaysia.**  * **Links to test results, vet reports, X-rays etc. NONE. Darn vet just said it's allergy without doing any blood work. I'm going back to the vet to ask for one. :(**", "c_root_id_A": "fge1q5u", "c_root_id_B": "fgek2k3", "created_at_utc_A": 1580689536, "created_at_utc_B": 1580701411, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 19, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed.   This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "Is he on flea and parasite control? I agree with others it sounds like more than allergies but i just want to clarify that a dog being on a food long term does not rule out allergy to it. Dogs typically develop food allergies to foods they have been eating. If a veterinary dermatologist or internal medicine specialist is available, that would be the best next step. Good luck with your pup!", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 11875.0, "score_ratio": 19.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "pp3t04", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Puppy with red eyes and green discharge Sooo, my *almost* 5 month golden retrievers left eye is red and is constantly producing green discharge. It seems like everytime I clean it, I turn around and it\u2019s back. Onset was yesterday morning, and today I noticed he has diarrhea. He just happened to have a vet appointment yesterday for a check up and some shots, and the vet said it was probably just something in his eye and nothing to worry about.. BUT i am worried, it doesn\u2019t seem to be getting better and it\u2019s my understanding green discharge from the eye certainly isn\u2019t a good thing. Am I being an asshole by not listening to the vet, or am I right to be concerned? Any advice or maybe things I should look out for?", "c_root_id_A": "hd12b4m", "c_root_id_B": "hd0zfqr", "created_at_utc_A": 1631757945, "created_at_utc_B": 1631756592, "score_A": 3, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I\u2019m not a vet, but I would call the vet again and tell them it\u2019s not getting better.  If they won\u2019t take another look I would find another vet.", "human_ref_B": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 1353.0, "score_ratio": 3.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "zzw940", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Newly Diagnosed Diabetic Dog So my dog got diagnosed with diabetes on the 26th and I already have so many questions. I joined a Facebook group for support and information and everything seems super overwhelming. Many, if not all, members are not vets but they seem to have a lot of knowledge on canine diabetes that make me wonder if I should be trusting my vet, or them.   My vet prescribed my dog Lantus Solostar. He said to use 1 unit every 12 hours. From what I learned, 15 minutes after he eats. He also prescribed me Royal Canin Glycobalance dry dog food and should be giving 1 1/4 cups each meal. The issue with that is, my dog doesn\u2019t even eat a cup a day\u2014 trust me, I try.   So if that\u2019s the case, how do I administer the insulin? Is it still the same dosage? Can I add something to his food to entice him to eat it? Again, him eating this little isn\u2019t out of the ordinary. But in the past we always free fed, so this is a different eating schedule he needs to get used to.   Another thing is the Lantus insulin. In the Facebook group, most of the members say that it isn\u2019t good for dogs or it doesn\u2019t work for their dogs and suggest to use Novalin from Walmart. Much cheaper, more affective, and no prescription needed. But I\u2019m a science based person. If Lantus wasn\u2019t okay for my dog, why would my vet prescribe it? Should I use Novalin instead?   And lastly, my dog is obese. Is a 16ish pound maltipoo. I know he needs to lose weight, but don\u2019t know truly how much food/calories he should be consuming. How can I calculate this?   Sincerely and overwhelmed dog mama.", "c_root_id_A": "j2dwaxj", "c_root_id_B": "j2f22gb", "created_at_utc_A": 1672499842, "created_at_utc_B": 1672517141, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "Greetings, all!  This is a sub for professional veterinary advice, and as such we follow strict rules for participating.   OP, your post **has NOT** been removed. Please also check the FAQ to see whether your question is answered there.  This is an *automated* general reminder to **please follow The Sub Rules** when discussing this question:  - **Do not comment with anecdotes** about your own or others' pets. - **Do not give OP specific treatment instructions,** including instructions on meds and dosages. - **Do not give possible diagnoses** that could explain the symptoms described by OP.  **Your comment will be removed, and you may be banned.**  Thank you for your cooperation!  *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AskVet) if you have any questions or concerns.*", "human_ref_B": "I would double check the 1.25 cups per meal instructions you got as 2.5 cups per day is more than the bag recommends for a 22 lb dog much less a 16 lb obese one. If you know how many calories your pet *was* getting with their old food (take how much they were getting and compare that to the kcal/cup listed on the bag), you can give the vet that information for a more hand-tailored calorie reduction plan.  All insulin is not created equal. Different types will have different units and require different dosages so switching without explicit instruction from your vet can be either ineffective or dangerous depending on that difference. Sometimes a pet will need to try a few different types to find what works best for them, but less than one week is not enough time to tell if that's needed.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 17299.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "5me6db", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Gave my heartworm+ dog Heartgard Plus last night, found some long white worms in his poop this morning; is this normal? Species:  Dog  Age:  2  Sex/Neuter status:  Male/intact  Breed:  APBT  Body weight:  57lbs  History:  heartworm+ but is currently in treatment and had his 3rd imiticide shot on 12/14.  Clinical signs:  long white worms in his poop  Duration:  this morning  Your general location:  Atlanta, GA  Good morning,  I adopted a HW+ dog back in October.  We started the HW treatment back in early November and he finally got his 3rd imiticide shot on 12/14.  He took Heartgard for November but I failed to give him his preventative for December, I did give him Heartgard last night around 8pm for the January month.    This morning, I found a couple long white worms in his poop.  Is this normal?  My vet is closed today so I won't be able to see them till Monday.  Thanks in advance!", "c_root_id_A": "dc2u3wr", "c_root_id_B": "dc2ug0q", "created_at_utc_A": 1483717133, "created_at_utc_B": 1483717555, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 5, "human_ref_A": "That is not normal, however it is not an emergency and can wait until Monday (unless your dog develops more serious symptoms) Do you have a picture of the worms? Is your dog on flea prevention?", "human_ref_B": "Yeah that spray won't do anything lol. Your dog should be on monthly flea prevention, because you won't want an infestation. Call your vet on Monday to set up an appointment and bring in a fresh stool sample with you at your appointment. They will be able to look/send of the sample and determine the parasite, and prescribe the appropriate dewormer. The stool sample you bring in should be no more than 12 hours old, and if is more than 4 hours old should be kept in an air tight container in your fridge until your appointment. Good luck!", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 422.0, "score_ratio": 2.5, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}
{"post_id": "5me6db", "domain": "askvet_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Gave my heartworm+ dog Heartgard Plus last night, found some long white worms in his poop this morning; is this normal? Species:  Dog  Age:  2  Sex/Neuter status:  Male/intact  Breed:  APBT  Body weight:  57lbs  History:  heartworm+ but is currently in treatment and had his 3rd imiticide shot on 12/14.  Clinical signs:  long white worms in his poop  Duration:  this morning  Your general location:  Atlanta, GA  Good morning,  I adopted a HW+ dog back in October.  We started the HW treatment back in early November and he finally got his 3rd imiticide shot on 12/14.  He took Heartgard for November but I failed to give him his preventative for December, I did give him Heartgard last night around 8pm for the January month.    This morning, I found a couple long white worms in his poop.  Is this normal?  My vet is closed today so I won't be able to see them till Monday.  Thanks in advance!", "c_root_id_A": "dc2u3wr", "c_root_id_B": "dc3mm1w", "created_at_utc_A": 1483717133, "created_at_utc_B": 1483750429, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 3, "human_ref_A": "That is not normal, however it is not an emergency and can wait until Monday (unless your dog develops more serious symptoms) Do you have a picture of the worms? Is your dog on flea prevention?", "human_ref_B": "Heartguard Plus also contains pyrantel, which kills off intestinal worms like roundworms and others. You could be seeing the dead worms killed off by yesterday's dosage. Also, you should really use topical flea and tick protection year round here in Atlanta. Dogs can get worms from fleas if they swallow one of the fleas on them while scratching their skin with their mouths, as fleas are a host for certain species of worm's eggs (such as tapeworms). I think he will be okay until Monday, but if there are any unusual symptoms definitely call an emergency vet. Don't forget to collect a fresh stool sample for your vet, too.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 33296.0, "score_ratio": 1.5, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}