{"post_id": "mszynq", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "How do you guys manage your dishes while camping? Hey guys! I have been camping for as long as I can rememebr but I can never seem to figure out a good dish washing solution. I was just wondering what you guys use? I'll go over some of the methods I've used in the past: 2 bucket method: This method requires 2 shoebox sized plastic bins filled with water. One has soapy hot water for cleaning and the other has cold clean water for rinsing. Then you dry with a towel. This is by far the best way to clean the dishes but it uses the most water and can be messy. I was required to use this method in boy scouts to make sure no one got sick or mold didn't grow on the pans while they sat in the patrol boxes for weeks. Boil water in a pot: This method is as simple as boiling water in a pot and pouring it on each dish individually with a little soap. The use the water jug to rinse them. This is nice becuase it uses the least amount of peices but it also uses a lot of water for rinsing and will also leave a large mess. Leave it for later: I use this method is I am only gone for a night. When I get home it all goes in the dishwasher. Gross cause you're carying dirty dishes everywhere. Plastic/paper utincils: By far the easiest but I hate making so much trash, and you still need to wash your cooking pans anyway. Backpacking food (AKA only boil water): Great but cmon, you know youd rather have real eggs for breakfast... I'll note I always use the leasst possible amount of dishes when I cook, this is obviously the best way to avoid dishes. Let me know what you guys do or recomend! Thanks!", "c_root_id_A": "guwot2p", "c_root_id_B": "guwnr0l", "created_at_utc_A": 1618697957, "created_at_utc_B": 1618697389, "score_A": 7, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "freeze dried meals that I either purchase or make myself. Vacuum sealed in heat resistant plastic bags. Boil water in my small 3 cup pot. pour boiling water into bags. Eat out of bag with my plastic heavy duty spork. Wash spork by licking it. Done", "human_ref_B": "We use just a single cast iron skillet for any cooking that's not done on the grill or over fire. For grilling meat over open fire, or veggies, we have a grill basket with an extended handle. Each family member has their own titanium spork. The cast iron doesn't need to be washed in the traditional sense. You just get the food off and then season it with some oil. The sporks and cooking utensils like spatula and tongs are the only items that we wash, and like you only if we're staying more than one night. For plates and bowls we use paper, which I know is wasteful, but hard to pass up the convenience. We rationalize it because they're recyclable. For water we'll buy 2 gallon containers and just refill our Nalgene's. Soft drinks and adult beverages are always in aluminum cans. For the actual washing itself we have two collapsible buckets, one with soap one for rinsing. Air dry.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 568.0, "score_ratio": 3.5, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "mszynq", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "How do you guys manage your dishes while camping? Hey guys! I have been camping for as long as I can rememebr but I can never seem to figure out a good dish washing solution. I was just wondering what you guys use? I'll go over some of the methods I've used in the past: 2 bucket method: This method requires 2 shoebox sized plastic bins filled with water. One has soapy hot water for cleaning and the other has cold clean water for rinsing. Then you dry with a towel. This is by far the best way to clean the dishes but it uses the most water and can be messy. I was required to use this method in boy scouts to make sure no one got sick or mold didn't grow on the pans while they sat in the patrol boxes for weeks. Boil water in a pot: This method is as simple as boiling water in a pot and pouring it on each dish individually with a little soap. The use the water jug to rinse them. This is nice becuase it uses the least amount of peices but it also uses a lot of water for rinsing and will also leave a large mess. Leave it for later: I use this method is I am only gone for a night. When I get home it all goes in the dishwasher. Gross cause you're carying dirty dishes everywhere. Plastic/paper utincils: By far the easiest but I hate making so much trash, and you still need to wash your cooking pans anyway. Backpacking food (AKA only boil water): Great but cmon, you know youd rather have real eggs for breakfast... I'll note I always use the leasst possible amount of dishes when I cook, this is obviously the best way to avoid dishes. Let me know what you guys do or recomend! Thanks!", "c_root_id_A": "guwnr0l", "c_root_id_B": "guwydaw", "created_at_utc_A": 1618697389, "created_at_utc_B": 1618703050, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 5, "human_ref_A": "We use just a single cast iron skillet for any cooking that's not done on the grill or over fire. For grilling meat over open fire, or veggies, we have a grill basket with an extended handle. Each family member has their own titanium spork. The cast iron doesn't need to be washed in the traditional sense. You just get the food off and then season it with some oil. The sporks and cooking utensils like spatula and tongs are the only items that we wash, and like you only if we're staying more than one night. For plates and bowls we use paper, which I know is wasteful, but hard to pass up the convenience. We rationalize it because they're recyclable. For water we'll buy 2 gallon containers and just refill our Nalgene's. Soft drinks and adult beverages are always in aluminum cans. For the actual washing itself we have two collapsible buckets, one with soap one for rinsing. Air dry.", "human_ref_B": "If I'm car camping I do the full 2 sink method. Backpacking, I wipe everything out with bread and eat it. Yumm!", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 5661.0, "score_ratio": 2.5, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "mszynq", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "How do you guys manage your dishes while camping? Hey guys! I have been camping for as long as I can rememebr but I can never seem to figure out a good dish washing solution. I was just wondering what you guys use? I'll go over some of the methods I've used in the past: 2 bucket method: This method requires 2 shoebox sized plastic bins filled with water. One has soapy hot water for cleaning and the other has cold clean water for rinsing. Then you dry with a towel. This is by far the best way to clean the dishes but it uses the most water and can be messy. I was required to use this method in boy scouts to make sure no one got sick or mold didn't grow on the pans while they sat in the patrol boxes for weeks. Boil water in a pot: This method is as simple as boiling water in a pot and pouring it on each dish individually with a little soap. The use the water jug to rinse them. This is nice becuase it uses the least amount of peices but it also uses a lot of water for rinsing and will also leave a large mess. Leave it for later: I use this method is I am only gone for a night. When I get home it all goes in the dishwasher. Gross cause you're carying dirty dishes everywhere. Plastic/paper utincils: By far the easiest but I hate making so much trash, and you still need to wash your cooking pans anyway. Backpacking food (AKA only boil water): Great but cmon, you know youd rather have real eggs for breakfast... I'll note I always use the leasst possible amount of dishes when I cook, this is obviously the best way to avoid dishes. Let me know what you guys do or recomend! Thanks!", "c_root_id_A": "guxzylf", "c_root_id_B": "guwnr0l", "created_at_utc_A": 1618726996, "created_at_utc_B": 1618697389, "score_A": 3, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "I've always used the two-box method when camping with other people, and heat the water in a metal pot. Without fail, the water is always too hot to put your hands in at the start, and becomes cold and slimy soon after. There is no transition between the two temperatures. I also use paper dishes as much as possible. Toss 'em in the fire and be done with them. If I'm on my own, I keep things very simple, and eat out of the same pot or pan I cook in. I use teflon whenever I can, but if anything sticks, I throw the pot back on the stove/fire with some water. I always use those yellow 3M sponges with the green scrubby thing on one side. (Side advice: I also keep one in a plastic bag in my car so I can scrub bugs off my windshield.)", "human_ref_B": "We use just a single cast iron skillet for any cooking that's not done on the grill or over fire. For grilling meat over open fire, or veggies, we have a grill basket with an extended handle. Each family member has their own titanium spork. The cast iron doesn't need to be washed in the traditional sense. You just get the food off and then season it with some oil. The sporks and cooking utensils like spatula and tongs are the only items that we wash, and like you only if we're staying more than one night. For plates and bowls we use paper, which I know is wasteful, but hard to pass up the convenience. We rationalize it because they're recyclable. For water we'll buy 2 gallon containers and just refill our Nalgene's. Soft drinks and adult beverages are always in aluminum cans. For the actual washing itself we have two collapsible buckets, one with soap one for rinsing. Air dry.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 29607.0, "score_ratio": 1.5, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "mszynq", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.92, "history": "How do you guys manage your dishes while camping? Hey guys! I have been camping for as long as I can rememebr but I can never seem to figure out a good dish washing solution. I was just wondering what you guys use? I'll go over some of the methods I've used in the past: 2 bucket method: This method requires 2 shoebox sized plastic bins filled with water. One has soapy hot water for cleaning and the other has cold clean water for rinsing. Then you dry with a towel. This is by far the best way to clean the dishes but it uses the most water and can be messy. I was required to use this method in boy scouts to make sure no one got sick or mold didn't grow on the pans while they sat in the patrol boxes for weeks. Boil water in a pot: This method is as simple as boiling water in a pot and pouring it on each dish individually with a little soap. The use the water jug to rinse them. This is nice becuase it uses the least amount of peices but it also uses a lot of water for rinsing and will also leave a large mess. Leave it for later: I use this method is I am only gone for a night. When I get home it all goes in the dishwasher. Gross cause you're carying dirty dishes everywhere. Plastic/paper utincils: By far the easiest but I hate making so much trash, and you still need to wash your cooking pans anyway. Backpacking food (AKA only boil water): Great but cmon, you know youd rather have real eggs for breakfast... I'll note I always use the leasst possible amount of dishes when I cook, this is obviously the best way to avoid dishes. Let me know what you guys do or recomend! Thanks!", "c_root_id_A": "gux6frt", "c_root_id_B": "guxzylf", "created_at_utc_A": 1618707597, "created_at_utc_B": 1618726996, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 3, "human_ref_A": "I bring a medium size mixing bowl. I boil water and put it in the bowl with some dish soap. I wash all the dishes with the soapy water. Then I dump the soap water in an environmentally friendly way and refill the bowl with clean water and rinse the dishes. Basically I will use the cleaning rag to remove soap residue and then air dry the dishes. It\u2019s two sink but trying to use as minimal water as possible in an efficient way.", "human_ref_B": "I've always used the two-box method when camping with other people, and heat the water in a metal pot. Without fail, the water is always too hot to put your hands in at the start, and becomes cold and slimy soon after. There is no transition between the two temperatures. I also use paper dishes as much as possible. Toss 'em in the fire and be done with them. If I'm on my own, I keep things very simple, and eat out of the same pot or pan I cook in. I use teflon whenever I can, but if anything sticks, I throw the pot back on the stove/fire with some water. I always use those yellow 3M sponges with the green scrubby thing on one side. (Side advice: I also keep one in a plastic bag in my car so I can scrub bugs off my windshield.)", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 19399.0, "score_ratio": 1.5, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "pn3wzg", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.86, "history": "4 person tent recommendations I'm looking for recommendations for a 4 person tent. My wife and I recently went camping and had to duck into our tent during a sudden downpour of rain. Somehow, this hasn't happened before, and with our two dogs and the two of us, our 2 person tent was a little cramped. Any one have any recommendations that won't break the bank? The tent we currently have is a Coleman Hooligan 2 person that we've had and loved for the last 5 years.", "c_root_id_A": "hcmnl6y", "c_root_id_B": "hcmod8y", "created_at_utc_A": 1631490658, "created_at_utc_B": 1631491040, "score_A": 3, "score_B": 5, "human_ref_A": "I just helped a friend buy and set up the Marmot Halo 4, it is a very nice tent. Footprint sold separately. You just missed the Labor Day sale where I got it at a really good deal. It will probably go on discount again at Thanksgiving.", "human_ref_B": "If you like the Hooligan, Coleman makes a 4 person version. I\u2019d look at it from a features and budget standpoint. Are you okay with one door or would two be better? Would you like more headroom? The Hooligan is a backpacking tent - is that what you do? If you\u2019re car camping, you can sacrifice weight for comfort. Coleman makes decent tents for the price. REI, Big Agnes, Marmot, North Face, etc. - they\u2019re all better quality at a higher price.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 382.0, "score_ratio": 1.6666666667, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "pn3wzg", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.86, "history": "4 person tent recommendations I'm looking for recommendations for a 4 person tent. My wife and I recently went camping and had to duck into our tent during a sudden downpour of rain. Somehow, this hasn't happened before, and with our two dogs and the two of us, our 2 person tent was a little cramped. Any one have any recommendations that won't break the bank? The tent we currently have is a Coleman Hooligan 2 person that we've had and loved for the last 5 years.", "c_root_id_A": "hcmnz7u", "c_root_id_B": "hcmod8y", "created_at_utc_A": 1631490850, "created_at_utc_B": 1631491040, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 5, "human_ref_A": "10x10 pop up. Look at this https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.ezup.com/camping&ved=2ahUKEwjZmIDa0PryAhUCSzABHZhJBt4QFnoECDUQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2j3z4iGZKtgvU49wh-rCv3", "human_ref_B": "If you like the Hooligan, Coleman makes a 4 person version. I\u2019d look at it from a features and budget standpoint. Are you okay with one door or would two be better? Would you like more headroom? The Hooligan is a backpacking tent - is that what you do? If you\u2019re car camping, you can sacrifice weight for comfort. Coleman makes decent tents for the price. REI, Big Agnes, Marmot, North Face, etc. - they\u2019re all better quality at a higher price.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 190.0, "score_ratio": 5.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "pn3wzg", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.86, "history": "4 person tent recommendations I'm looking for recommendations for a 4 person tent. My wife and I recently went camping and had to duck into our tent during a sudden downpour of rain. Somehow, this hasn't happened before, and with our two dogs and the two of us, our 2 person tent was a little cramped. Any one have any recommendations that won't break the bank? The tent we currently have is a Coleman Hooligan 2 person that we've had and loved for the last 5 years.", "c_root_id_A": "hcmoejk", "c_root_id_B": "hcmp648", "created_at_utc_A": 1631491058, "created_at_utc_B": 1631491434, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 3, "human_ref_A": "Marmot Tungsten is a good mix of quality, packability, and price.", "human_ref_B": "I have a hooligan 4 man, does well in the rain. If I were to buy a Coleman 4 man now, I would get the SkyDome 4 full fly. There are lots of good tents these days from other brands, alps mountaineering, kelty, eureka are some midrange brands I would recommend. I would not spend too much if you are going to have dogs in the tent with you.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 376.0, "score_ratio": 1.5, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "pn3wzg", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.86, "history": "4 person tent recommendations I'm looking for recommendations for a 4 person tent. My wife and I recently went camping and had to duck into our tent during a sudden downpour of rain. Somehow, this hasn't happened before, and with our two dogs and the two of us, our 2 person tent was a little cramped. Any one have any recommendations that won't break the bank? The tent we currently have is a Coleman Hooligan 2 person that we've had and loved for the last 5 years.", "c_root_id_A": "hcmokyc", "c_root_id_B": "hcmp648", "created_at_utc_A": 1631491147, "created_at_utc_B": 1631491434, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 3, "human_ref_A": "Check out eBay or Craigslist and the tents\u2019 reviews online. You can find some nice used tents.", "human_ref_B": "I have a hooligan 4 man, does well in the rain. If I were to buy a Coleman 4 man now, I would get the SkyDome 4 full fly. There are lots of good tents these days from other brands, alps mountaineering, kelty, eureka are some midrange brands I would recommend. I would not spend too much if you are going to have dogs in the tent with you.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 287.0, "score_ratio": 1.5, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "pn3wzg", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.86, "history": "4 person tent recommendations I'm looking for recommendations for a 4 person tent. My wife and I recently went camping and had to duck into our tent during a sudden downpour of rain. Somehow, this hasn't happened before, and with our two dogs and the two of us, our 2 person tent was a little cramped. Any one have any recommendations that won't break the bank? The tent we currently have is a Coleman Hooligan 2 person that we've had and loved for the last 5 years.", "c_root_id_A": "hcmp648", "c_root_id_B": "hcmnz7u", "created_at_utc_A": 1631491434, "created_at_utc_B": 1631490850, "score_A": 3, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I have a hooligan 4 man, does well in the rain. If I were to buy a Coleman 4 man now, I would get the SkyDome 4 full fly. There are lots of good tents these days from other brands, alps mountaineering, kelty, eureka are some midrange brands I would recommend. I would not spend too much if you are going to have dogs in the tent with you.", "human_ref_B": "10x10 pop up. Look at this https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.ezup.com/camping&ved=2ahUKEwjZmIDa0PryAhUCSzABHZhJBt4QFnoECDUQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2j3z4iGZKtgvU49wh-rCv3", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 584.0, "score_ratio": 3.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "pn3wzg", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.86, "history": "4 person tent recommendations I'm looking for recommendations for a 4 person tent. My wife and I recently went camping and had to duck into our tent during a sudden downpour of rain. Somehow, this hasn't happened before, and with our two dogs and the two of us, our 2 person tent was a little cramped. Any one have any recommendations that won't break the bank? The tent we currently have is a Coleman Hooligan 2 person that we've had and loved for the last 5 years.", "c_root_id_A": "hcmnz7u", "c_root_id_B": "hcmoejk", "created_at_utc_A": 1631490850, "created_at_utc_B": 1631491058, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "10x10 pop up. Look at this https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.ezup.com/camping&ved=2ahUKEwjZmIDa0PryAhUCSzABHZhJBt4QFnoECDUQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2j3z4iGZKtgvU49wh-rCv3", "human_ref_B": "Marmot Tungsten is a good mix of quality, packability, and price.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 208.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "pn3wzg", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.86, "history": "4 person tent recommendations I'm looking for recommendations for a 4 person tent. My wife and I recently went camping and had to duck into our tent during a sudden downpour of rain. Somehow, this hasn't happened before, and with our two dogs and the two of us, our 2 person tent was a little cramped. Any one have any recommendations that won't break the bank? The tent we currently have is a Coleman Hooligan 2 person that we've had and loved for the last 5 years.", "c_root_id_A": "hcmokyc", "c_root_id_B": "hcmnz7u", "created_at_utc_A": 1631491147, "created_at_utc_B": 1631490850, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Check out eBay or Craigslist and the tents\u2019 reviews online. You can find some nice used tents.", "human_ref_B": "10x10 pop up. Look at this https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.ezup.com/camping&ved=2ahUKEwjZmIDa0PryAhUCSzABHZhJBt4QFnoECDUQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2j3z4iGZKtgvU49wh-rCv3", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 297.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "yqncl2", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.83, "history": "Need real advice about buddy heaters Avid camper here , plan on going more remote this winter to camp with my girl Bought a buddy heater today and would like some anecdotal experience with using these in tents I plan on buying two carbon alarms just in case of course , I\u2019m just curious as to how many people have slept in tents etc with these buddy heaters on Thanks fellow campers !", "c_root_id_A": "ivpanpt", "c_root_id_B": "ivp7olo", "created_at_utc_A": 1668012954, "created_at_utc_B": 1668011790, "score_A": 17, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "I have used one for years. They are very safe, but I do use an alarm and keep a window cracked. Their downfall is they produce moisture.", "human_ref_B": "I sleep in a cabin with one. With calibrated carbon alarms I would sleep easy", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 1164.0, "score_ratio": 8.5, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "yqncl2", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.83, "history": "Need real advice about buddy heaters Avid camper here , plan on going more remote this winter to camp with my girl Bought a buddy heater today and would like some anecdotal experience with using these in tents I plan on buying two carbon alarms just in case of course , I\u2019m just curious as to how many people have slept in tents etc with these buddy heaters on Thanks fellow campers !", "c_root_id_A": "ivpdjjh", "c_root_id_B": "ivpb6ga", "created_at_utc_A": 1668014080, "created_at_utc_B": 1668013156, "score_A": 7, "score_B": 6, "human_ref_A": "I have used them plenty of times, zero issues. Keep them level. Keep a very clear area around them. Keep your monitor on and allow for some ventilation. Edit: to say that a CO monitor isn't even *required*. They have low oxygen sensors built in, it's just an added back up measure. When you say pop up gazebo, is it screen material? Or like PVC plastic? All of my tents are ventilated well anyway, they have completely mesh roofs, but we do unzip the windows an inch or two at the top as an extra precaution. 2nd edit: the single green propane cans only last 2-2.5 hours on high. Id you need a lot of warmth and will be running them all night, you need a good length of hose, I think mine is 10' and a standard size propane tank to hook to.", "human_ref_B": "I use them in a vented tent", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 924.0, "score_ratio": 1.1666666667, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "yqncl2", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.83, "history": "Need real advice about buddy heaters Avid camper here , plan on going more remote this winter to camp with my girl Bought a buddy heater today and would like some anecdotal experience with using these in tents I plan on buying two carbon alarms just in case of course , I\u2019m just curious as to how many people have slept in tents etc with these buddy heaters on Thanks fellow campers !", "c_root_id_A": "ivpdjjh", "c_root_id_B": "ivpd4cy", "created_at_utc_A": 1668014080, "created_at_utc_B": 1668013916, "score_A": 7, "score_B": 4, "human_ref_A": "I have used them plenty of times, zero issues. Keep them level. Keep a very clear area around them. Keep your monitor on and allow for some ventilation. Edit: to say that a CO monitor isn't even *required*. They have low oxygen sensors built in, it's just an added back up measure. When you say pop up gazebo, is it screen material? Or like PVC plastic? All of my tents are ventilated well anyway, they have completely mesh roofs, but we do unzip the windows an inch or two at the top as an extra precaution. 2nd edit: the single green propane cans only last 2-2.5 hours on high. Id you need a lot of warmth and will be running them all night, you need a good length of hose, I think mine is 10' and a standard size propane tank to hook to.", "human_ref_B": "I use them inside gazebos/screen rooms, or at picnic tables, as a kind of fire substitute. I tried them in tents and they work, you do have to take some precautions, but I moved away from this eventually because of how much moisture they produce. I camp inside a vehicle and its a good way to get mildew. They're really nice for sitting outdoors but kind of challenging in enclosed spaces. Preference nowadays is for heated blankets and heated water bottle (along with high quality bedding)", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 164.0, "score_ratio": 1.75, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "yqncl2", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.83, "history": "Need real advice about buddy heaters Avid camper here , plan on going more remote this winter to camp with my girl Bought a buddy heater today and would like some anecdotal experience with using these in tents I plan on buying two carbon alarms just in case of course , I\u2019m just curious as to how many people have slept in tents etc with these buddy heaters on Thanks fellow campers !", "c_root_id_A": "ivpdjjh", "c_root_id_B": "ivp7olo", "created_at_utc_A": 1668014080, "created_at_utc_B": 1668011790, "score_A": 7, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "I have used them plenty of times, zero issues. Keep them level. Keep a very clear area around them. Keep your monitor on and allow for some ventilation. Edit: to say that a CO monitor isn't even *required*. They have low oxygen sensors built in, it's just an added back up measure. When you say pop up gazebo, is it screen material? Or like PVC plastic? All of my tents are ventilated well anyway, they have completely mesh roofs, but we do unzip the windows an inch or two at the top as an extra precaution. 2nd edit: the single green propane cans only last 2-2.5 hours on high. Id you need a lot of warmth and will be running them all night, you need a good length of hose, I think mine is 10' and a standard size propane tank to hook to.", "human_ref_B": "I sleep in a cabin with one. With calibrated carbon alarms I would sleep easy", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 2290.0, "score_ratio": 3.5, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "yqncl2", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.83, "history": "Need real advice about buddy heaters Avid camper here , plan on going more remote this winter to camp with my girl Bought a buddy heater today and would like some anecdotal experience with using these in tents I plan on buying two carbon alarms just in case of course , I\u2019m just curious as to how many people have slept in tents etc with these buddy heaters on Thanks fellow campers !", "c_root_id_A": "ivpb6ga", "c_root_id_B": "ivp7olo", "created_at_utc_A": 1668013156, "created_at_utc_B": 1668011790, "score_A": 6, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "I use them in a vented tent", "human_ref_B": "I sleep in a cabin with one. With calibrated carbon alarms I would sleep easy", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 1366.0, "score_ratio": 3.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "yqncl2", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.83, "history": "Need real advice about buddy heaters Avid camper here , plan on going more remote this winter to camp with my girl Bought a buddy heater today and would like some anecdotal experience with using these in tents I plan on buying two carbon alarms just in case of course , I\u2019m just curious as to how many people have slept in tents etc with these buddy heaters on Thanks fellow campers !", "c_root_id_A": "ivpd4cy", "c_root_id_B": "ivp7olo", "created_at_utc_A": 1668013916, "created_at_utc_B": 1668011790, "score_A": 4, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "I use them inside gazebos/screen rooms, or at picnic tables, as a kind of fire substitute. I tried them in tents and they work, you do have to take some precautions, but I moved away from this eventually because of how much moisture they produce. I camp inside a vehicle and its a good way to get mildew. They're really nice for sitting outdoors but kind of challenging in enclosed spaces. Preference nowadays is for heated blankets and heated water bottle (along with high quality bedding)", "human_ref_B": "I sleep in a cabin with one. With calibrated carbon alarms I would sleep easy", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 2126.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "yqncl2", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.83, "history": "Need real advice about buddy heaters Avid camper here , plan on going more remote this winter to camp with my girl Bought a buddy heater today and would like some anecdotal experience with using these in tents I plan on buying two carbon alarms just in case of course , I\u2019m just curious as to how many people have slept in tents etc with these buddy heaters on Thanks fellow campers !", "c_root_id_A": "ivpdzql", "c_root_id_B": "ivp7olo", "created_at_utc_A": 1668014254, "created_at_utc_B": 1668011790, "score_A": 3, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "I use mine in my tent WITH a CO detector. I turn it off while sleeping though. Biggest CON is the mad amount of condensation that occurs... edit:info", "human_ref_B": "I sleep in a cabin with one. With calibrated carbon alarms I would sleep easy", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 2464.0, "score_ratio": 1.5, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "yqncl2", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.83, "history": "Need real advice about buddy heaters Avid camper here , plan on going more remote this winter to camp with my girl Bought a buddy heater today and would like some anecdotal experience with using these in tents I plan on buying two carbon alarms just in case of course , I\u2019m just curious as to how many people have slept in tents etc with these buddy heaters on Thanks fellow campers !", "c_root_id_A": "ivp7olo", "c_root_id_B": "ivprj0g", "created_at_utc_A": 1668011790, "created_at_utc_B": 1668019473, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 3, "human_ref_A": "I sleep in a cabin with one. With calibrated carbon alarms I would sleep easy", "human_ref_B": "I use mine to preheat the tent before I go to sleep. I turn it back on in the AM to take the nip out of the air. No issues with CO.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 7683.0, "score_ratio": 1.5, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "yqncl2", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.83, "history": "Need real advice about buddy heaters Avid camper here , plan on going more remote this winter to camp with my girl Bought a buddy heater today and would like some anecdotal experience with using these in tents I plan on buying two carbon alarms just in case of course , I\u2019m just curious as to how many people have slept in tents etc with these buddy heaters on Thanks fellow campers !", "c_root_id_A": "ivpf1b8", "c_root_id_B": "ivprj0g", "created_at_utc_A": 1668014655, "created_at_utc_B": 1668019473, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 3, "human_ref_A": "I've only used it on a roof top tent. We left it next to the entrance of the tent, where some air could flow in and out. Made sure it was standing straight, in a place where we wouldn't kick it. It was great. it was two of us, kept us warm all night. We were camping at around 5-8 degrees Celsius. Not as cold, but still, coldish. And with it we were great.", "human_ref_B": "I use mine to preheat the tent before I go to sleep. I turn it back on in the AM to take the nip out of the air. No issues with CO.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 4818.0, "score_ratio": 1.5, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "yqncl2", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.83, "history": "Need real advice about buddy heaters Avid camper here , plan on going more remote this winter to camp with my girl Bought a buddy heater today and would like some anecdotal experience with using these in tents I plan on buying two carbon alarms just in case of course , I\u2019m just curious as to how many people have slept in tents etc with these buddy heaters on Thanks fellow campers !", "c_root_id_A": "ivpnjzv", "c_root_id_B": "ivprj0g", "created_at_utc_A": 1668017925, "created_at_utc_B": 1668019473, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 3, "human_ref_A": "Have had one for years. Until I went propex furnace, I used them all the time. That said, even with their safety systems I never left mine on while sleeping. I would wake up a little chilly, turn it on to heat the tent and then turn it back off. TBH, I would sweat to death if I left it on while sleeping. Even the Little Buddy throws a ton of heat for a tent. It only takes a few minutes to get things warmed up so being on constantly seems like over kill. What they need to do is build a Buddy heater with a thermostat. But yeah, like anything that combusts propane, the product is water vapor, so you wake up to a damp cave. FWIW, going to a furnace was the best move I ever made.", "human_ref_B": "I use mine to preheat the tent before I go to sleep. I turn it back on in the AM to take the nip out of the air. No issues with CO.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 1548.0, "score_ratio": 1.5, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "yqncl2", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.83, "history": "Need real advice about buddy heaters Avid camper here , plan on going more remote this winter to camp with my girl Bought a buddy heater today and would like some anecdotal experience with using these in tents I plan on buying two carbon alarms just in case of course , I\u2019m just curious as to how many people have slept in tents etc with these buddy heaters on Thanks fellow campers !", "c_root_id_A": "ivpetxt", "c_root_id_B": "ivprj0g", "created_at_utc_A": 1668014576, "created_at_utc_B": 1668019473, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 3, "human_ref_A": "I use a buddy for winter camping. I feel very safe with it just by having a window cracked open. My recommendation is to get a full-size propane tank (keep the tank outside) with an adapter and a stove fan to put on top of it to push the warm air around. My buddy just bought a diesel heater and I may switch to that once my buddy goes.", "human_ref_B": "I use mine to preheat the tent before I go to sleep. I turn it back on in the AM to take the nip out of the air. No issues with CO.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 4897.0, "score_ratio": 3.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "yqncl2", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.83, "history": "Need real advice about buddy heaters Avid camper here , plan on going more remote this winter to camp with my girl Bought a buddy heater today and would like some anecdotal experience with using these in tents I plan on buying two carbon alarms just in case of course , I\u2019m just curious as to how many people have slept in tents etc with these buddy heaters on Thanks fellow campers !", "c_root_id_A": "ivpgo3x", "c_root_id_B": "ivprj0g", "created_at_utc_A": 1668015276, "created_at_utc_B": 1668019473, "score_A": 0, "score_B": 3, "human_ref_A": "I would never use one in tent while sleeping. I don't even use it in my van sleeping. Too easy for something to go wrong, since that heating element is not very well shielded. Also, they produce a LOT of water vapor. Which adds to what you produce and it gets all over stuff. And since you're snugged into sleeping gear that presumably will keep you warm, all the heater does then is heat the outside of your sleeping bag. And it's kind of worthless in a tent, IMHO, except as a radiant heat source for like warming your hands if you have to do something without gloves or mittens on. It shouldn't produce CO. The issue is that it's supposed to shut off, and it will in normal use, if there's not enough oxygen. So it needs ventilation for that. As you can tell, I'm not very fond of it. But it gets an occasional use.", "human_ref_B": "I use mine to preheat the tent before I go to sleep. I turn it back on in the AM to take the nip out of the air. No issues with CO.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 4197.0, "score_ratio": 3000.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "yqncl2", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.83, "history": "Need real advice about buddy heaters Avid camper here , plan on going more remote this winter to camp with my girl Bought a buddy heater today and would like some anecdotal experience with using these in tents I plan on buying two carbon alarms just in case of course , I\u2019m just curious as to how many people have slept in tents etc with these buddy heaters on Thanks fellow campers !", "c_root_id_A": "ivpf1b8", "c_root_id_B": "ivpetxt", "created_at_utc_A": 1668014655, "created_at_utc_B": 1668014576, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I've only used it on a roof top tent. We left it next to the entrance of the tent, where some air could flow in and out. Made sure it was standing straight, in a place where we wouldn't kick it. It was great. it was two of us, kept us warm all night. We were camping at around 5-8 degrees Celsius. Not as cold, but still, coldish. And with it we were great.", "human_ref_B": "I use a buddy for winter camping. I feel very safe with it just by having a window cracked open. My recommendation is to get a full-size propane tank (keep the tank outside) with an adapter and a stove fan to put on top of it to push the warm air around. My buddy just bought a diesel heater and I may switch to that once my buddy goes.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 79.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "yqncl2", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.83, "history": "Need real advice about buddy heaters Avid camper here , plan on going more remote this winter to camp with my girl Bought a buddy heater today and would like some anecdotal experience with using these in tents I plan on buying two carbon alarms just in case of course , I\u2019m just curious as to how many people have slept in tents etc with these buddy heaters on Thanks fellow campers !", "c_root_id_A": "ivpnjzv", "c_root_id_B": "ivpetxt", "created_at_utc_A": 1668017925, "created_at_utc_B": 1668014576, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Have had one for years. Until I went propex furnace, I used them all the time. That said, even with their safety systems I never left mine on while sleeping. I would wake up a little chilly, turn it on to heat the tent and then turn it back off. TBH, I would sweat to death if I left it on while sleeping. Even the Little Buddy throws a ton of heat for a tent. It only takes a few minutes to get things warmed up so being on constantly seems like over kill. What they need to do is build a Buddy heater with a thermostat. But yeah, like anything that combusts propane, the product is water vapor, so you wake up to a damp cave. FWIW, going to a furnace was the best move I ever made.", "human_ref_B": "I use a buddy for winter camping. I feel very safe with it just by having a window cracked open. My recommendation is to get a full-size propane tank (keep the tank outside) with an adapter and a stove fan to put on top of it to push the warm air around. My buddy just bought a diesel heater and I may switch to that once my buddy goes.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 3349.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "yqncl2", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.83, "history": "Need real advice about buddy heaters Avid camper here , plan on going more remote this winter to camp with my girl Bought a buddy heater today and would like some anecdotal experience with using these in tents I plan on buying two carbon alarms just in case of course , I\u2019m just curious as to how many people have slept in tents etc with these buddy heaters on Thanks fellow campers !", "c_root_id_A": "ivpnjzv", "c_root_id_B": "ivpgo3x", "created_at_utc_A": 1668017925, "created_at_utc_B": 1668015276, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 0, "human_ref_A": "Have had one for years. Until I went propex furnace, I used them all the time. That said, even with their safety systems I never left mine on while sleeping. I would wake up a little chilly, turn it on to heat the tent and then turn it back off. TBH, I would sweat to death if I left it on while sleeping. Even the Little Buddy throws a ton of heat for a tent. It only takes a few minutes to get things warmed up so being on constantly seems like over kill. What they need to do is build a Buddy heater with a thermostat. But yeah, like anything that combusts propane, the product is water vapor, so you wake up to a damp cave. FWIW, going to a furnace was the best move I ever made.", "human_ref_B": "I would never use one in tent while sleeping. I don't even use it in my van sleeping. Too easy for something to go wrong, since that heating element is not very well shielded. Also, they produce a LOT of water vapor. Which adds to what you produce and it gets all over stuff. And since you're snugged into sleeping gear that presumably will keep you warm, all the heater does then is heat the outside of your sleeping bag. And it's kind of worthless in a tent, IMHO, except as a radiant heat source for like warming your hands if you have to do something without gloves or mittens on. It shouldn't produce CO. The issue is that it's supposed to shut off, and it will in normal use, if there's not enough oxygen. So it needs ventilation for that. As you can tell, I'm not very fond of it. But it gets an occasional use.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 2649.0, "score_ratio": 2000.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "yqncl2", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.83, "history": "Need real advice about buddy heaters Avid camper here , plan on going more remote this winter to camp with my girl Bought a buddy heater today and would like some anecdotal experience with using these in tents I plan on buying two carbon alarms just in case of course , I\u2019m just curious as to how many people have slept in tents etc with these buddy heaters on Thanks fellow campers !", "c_root_id_A": "ivps9ig", "c_root_id_B": "ivpetxt", "created_at_utc_A": 1668019760, "created_at_utc_B": 1668014576, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I use a buddy heater in the tent with my family all the time... you want a small fan to circulate the heat so it doesn't go straight up. Here is my setup https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X20ZngL8XGc", "human_ref_B": "I use a buddy for winter camping. I feel very safe with it just by having a window cracked open. My recommendation is to get a full-size propane tank (keep the tank outside) with an adapter and a stove fan to put on top of it to push the warm air around. My buddy just bought a diesel heater and I may switch to that once my buddy goes.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 5184.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "yqncl2", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.83, "history": "Need real advice about buddy heaters Avid camper here , plan on going more remote this winter to camp with my girl Bought a buddy heater today and would like some anecdotal experience with using these in tents I plan on buying two carbon alarms just in case of course , I\u2019m just curious as to how many people have slept in tents etc with these buddy heaters on Thanks fellow campers !", "c_root_id_A": "ivpgo3x", "c_root_id_B": "ivps9ig", "created_at_utc_A": 1668015276, "created_at_utc_B": 1668019760, "score_A": 0, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "I would never use one in tent while sleeping. I don't even use it in my van sleeping. Too easy for something to go wrong, since that heating element is not very well shielded. Also, they produce a LOT of water vapor. Which adds to what you produce and it gets all over stuff. And since you're snugged into sleeping gear that presumably will keep you warm, all the heater does then is heat the outside of your sleeping bag. And it's kind of worthless in a tent, IMHO, except as a radiant heat source for like warming your hands if you have to do something without gloves or mittens on. It shouldn't produce CO. The issue is that it's supposed to shut off, and it will in normal use, if there's not enough oxygen. So it needs ventilation for that. As you can tell, I'm not very fond of it. But it gets an occasional use.", "human_ref_B": "I use a buddy heater in the tent with my family all the time... you want a small fan to circulate the heat so it doesn't go straight up. Here is my setup https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X20ZngL8XGc", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 4484.0, "score_ratio": 2000.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "yqncl2", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.83, "history": "Need real advice about buddy heaters Avid camper here , plan on going more remote this winter to camp with my girl Bought a buddy heater today and would like some anecdotal experience with using these in tents I plan on buying two carbon alarms just in case of course , I\u2019m just curious as to how many people have slept in tents etc with these buddy heaters on Thanks fellow campers !", "c_root_id_A": "ivq60xc", "c_root_id_B": "ivpetxt", "created_at_utc_A": 1668025102, "created_at_utc_B": 1668014576, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I bring some wood or a tile to set it on. the 1' or so just in front of it gets very hot. putting it on top of a cooler etc.", "human_ref_B": "I use a buddy for winter camping. I feel very safe with it just by having a window cracked open. My recommendation is to get a full-size propane tank (keep the tank outside) with an adapter and a stove fan to put on top of it to push the warm air around. My buddy just bought a diesel heater and I may switch to that once my buddy goes.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 10526.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "yqncl2", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.83, "history": "Need real advice about buddy heaters Avid camper here , plan on going more remote this winter to camp with my girl Bought a buddy heater today and would like some anecdotal experience with using these in tents I plan on buying two carbon alarms just in case of course , I\u2019m just curious as to how many people have slept in tents etc with these buddy heaters on Thanks fellow campers !", "c_root_id_A": "ivq60xc", "c_root_id_B": "ivpgo3x", "created_at_utc_A": 1668025102, "created_at_utc_B": 1668015276, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 0, "human_ref_A": "I bring some wood or a tile to set it on. the 1' or so just in front of it gets very hot. putting it on top of a cooler etc.", "human_ref_B": "I would never use one in tent while sleeping. I don't even use it in my van sleeping. Too easy for something to go wrong, since that heating element is not very well shielded. Also, they produce a LOT of water vapor. Which adds to what you produce and it gets all over stuff. And since you're snugged into sleeping gear that presumably will keep you warm, all the heater does then is heat the outside of your sleeping bag. And it's kind of worthless in a tent, IMHO, except as a radiant heat source for like warming your hands if you have to do something without gloves or mittens on. It shouldn't produce CO. The issue is that it's supposed to shut off, and it will in normal use, if there's not enough oxygen. So it needs ventilation for that. As you can tell, I'm not very fond of it. But it gets an occasional use.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 9826.0, "score_ratio": 2000.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "yqncl2", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.83, "history": "Need real advice about buddy heaters Avid camper here , plan on going more remote this winter to camp with my girl Bought a buddy heater today and would like some anecdotal experience with using these in tents I plan on buying two carbon alarms just in case of course , I\u2019m just curious as to how many people have slept in tents etc with these buddy heaters on Thanks fellow campers !", "c_root_id_A": "ivq60xc", "c_root_id_B": "ivpuhao", "created_at_utc_A": 1668025102, "created_at_utc_B": 1668020613, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I bring some wood or a tile to set it on. the 1' or so just in front of it gets very hot. putting it on top of a cooler etc.", "human_ref_B": "Ive slept in my tent with a window cracked, ventilation ports open along my ridgepole and a CO alarm.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 4489.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "yqncl2", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.83, "history": "Need real advice about buddy heaters Avid camper here , plan on going more remote this winter to camp with my girl Bought a buddy heater today and would like some anecdotal experience with using these in tents I plan on buying two carbon alarms just in case of course , I\u2019m just curious as to how many people have slept in tents etc with these buddy heaters on Thanks fellow campers !", "c_root_id_A": "ivpuhao", "c_root_id_B": "ivpgo3x", "created_at_utc_A": 1668020613, "created_at_utc_B": 1668015276, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 0, "human_ref_A": "Ive slept in my tent with a window cracked, ventilation ports open along my ridgepole and a CO alarm.", "human_ref_B": "I would never use one in tent while sleeping. I don't even use it in my van sleeping. Too easy for something to go wrong, since that heating element is not very well shielded. Also, they produce a LOT of water vapor. Which adds to what you produce and it gets all over stuff. And since you're snugged into sleeping gear that presumably will keep you warm, all the heater does then is heat the outside of your sleeping bag. And it's kind of worthless in a tent, IMHO, except as a radiant heat source for like warming your hands if you have to do something without gloves or mittens on. It shouldn't produce CO. The issue is that it's supposed to shut off, and it will in normal use, if there's not enough oxygen. So it needs ventilation for that. As you can tell, I'm not very fond of it. But it gets an occasional use.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 5337.0, "score_ratio": 1000.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "yqncl2", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.83, "history": "Need real advice about buddy heaters Avid camper here , plan on going more remote this winter to camp with my girl Bought a buddy heater today and would like some anecdotal experience with using these in tents I plan on buying two carbon alarms just in case of course , I\u2019m just curious as to how many people have slept in tents etc with these buddy heaters on Thanks fellow campers !", "c_root_id_A": "ivpgo3x", "c_root_id_B": "ivqef7n", "created_at_utc_A": 1668015276, "created_at_utc_B": 1668028293, "score_A": 0, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I would never use one in tent while sleeping. I don't even use it in my van sleeping. Too easy for something to go wrong, since that heating element is not very well shielded. Also, they produce a LOT of water vapor. Which adds to what you produce and it gets all over stuff. And since you're snugged into sleeping gear that presumably will keep you warm, all the heater does then is heat the outside of your sleeping bag. And it's kind of worthless in a tent, IMHO, except as a radiant heat source for like warming your hands if you have to do something without gloves or mittens on. It shouldn't produce CO. The issue is that it's supposed to shut off, and it will in normal use, if there's not enough oxygen. So it needs ventilation for that. As you can tell, I'm not very fond of it. But it gets an occasional use.", "human_ref_B": "I went winter camping with one, had a carbon alarm on the other side of my tent. We used that sucker on and off all night (small propane tanks) and it worked amazing, alarm never went off. I will say this, you plan on using it overnight, but a hose and bigger propane tank to last the night, if sucks getting up constantly to change the propane tanks. I went through 3 in one night.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 13017.0, "score_ratio": 1000.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "yqncl2", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.83, "history": "Need real advice about buddy heaters Avid camper here , plan on going more remote this winter to camp with my girl Bought a buddy heater today and would like some anecdotal experience with using these in tents I plan on buying two carbon alarms just in case of course , I\u2019m just curious as to how many people have slept in tents etc with these buddy heaters on Thanks fellow campers !", "c_root_id_A": "ivqmsu7", "c_root_id_B": "ivpgo3x", "created_at_utc_A": 1668031520, "created_at_utc_B": 1668015276, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 0, "human_ref_A": "I've used these many times in my ice hut and a million times in my popup camper with my family in it. I like that it's silent where my camper heater blows a fan and turns off and on all night. The only ventilation in my popup is where the canvas has detached by the door, about 6 inches. I don't know how big your tent is. My ice hut is stand up, but pretty tiny and i've never opened a window. I feel like ice huts were what they were originally designed for, but I could be wrong. I have a ton of faith in Mr Buddy. If you have an extra detector, you should be perfectly fine.", "human_ref_B": "I would never use one in tent while sleeping. I don't even use it in my van sleeping. Too easy for something to go wrong, since that heating element is not very well shielded. Also, they produce a LOT of water vapor. Which adds to what you produce and it gets all over stuff. And since you're snugged into sleeping gear that presumably will keep you warm, all the heater does then is heat the outside of your sleeping bag. And it's kind of worthless in a tent, IMHO, except as a radiant heat source for like warming your hands if you have to do something without gloves or mittens on. It shouldn't produce CO. The issue is that it's supposed to shut off, and it will in normal use, if there's not enough oxygen. So it needs ventilation for that. As you can tell, I'm not very fond of it. But it gets an occasional use.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 16244.0, "score_ratio": 1000.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "yqncl2", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.83, "history": "Need real advice about buddy heaters Avid camper here , plan on going more remote this winter to camp with my girl Bought a buddy heater today and would like some anecdotal experience with using these in tents I plan on buying two carbon alarms just in case of course , I\u2019m just curious as to how many people have slept in tents etc with these buddy heaters on Thanks fellow campers !", "c_root_id_A": "ivpgo3x", "c_root_id_B": "ivqomdp", "created_at_utc_A": 1668015276, "created_at_utc_B": 1668032257, "score_A": 0, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I would never use one in tent while sleeping. I don't even use it in my van sleeping. Too easy for something to go wrong, since that heating element is not very well shielded. Also, they produce a LOT of water vapor. Which adds to what you produce and it gets all over stuff. And since you're snugged into sleeping gear that presumably will keep you warm, all the heater does then is heat the outside of your sleeping bag. And it's kind of worthless in a tent, IMHO, except as a radiant heat source for like warming your hands if you have to do something without gloves or mittens on. It shouldn't produce CO. The issue is that it's supposed to shut off, and it will in normal use, if there's not enough oxygen. So it needs ventilation for that. As you can tell, I'm not very fond of it. But it gets an occasional use.", "human_ref_B": "They are not bad, but you are always taking a chance with them both from fire safety, personal safety for young children, as well as carbon monoxide perspective (generally not a problem if kept in good working order). They also produce a lot of moisture, which is another reason to use them sparingly. I would use them to prewarm the tent before retiring for the night, and again to warm it up in the morning, but while sleeping a good sleeping mat and sleeping bag are all you really need.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 16981.0, "score_ratio": 1000.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "yqncl2", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.83, "history": "Need real advice about buddy heaters Avid camper here , plan on going more remote this winter to camp with my girl Bought a buddy heater today and would like some anecdotal experience with using these in tents I plan on buying two carbon alarms just in case of course , I\u2019m just curious as to how many people have slept in tents etc with these buddy heaters on Thanks fellow campers !", "c_root_id_A": "ivqq2ug", "c_root_id_B": "ivpgo3x", "created_at_utc_A": 1668032840, "created_at_utc_B": 1668015276, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 0, "human_ref_A": "Man I freaking love my buddy heater. So much better waking up on a freezing morning when I can turn to my side and light up the buddy heater before getting out of bed.", "human_ref_B": "I would never use one in tent while sleeping. I don't even use it in my van sleeping. Too easy for something to go wrong, since that heating element is not very well shielded. Also, they produce a LOT of water vapor. Which adds to what you produce and it gets all over stuff. And since you're snugged into sleeping gear that presumably will keep you warm, all the heater does then is heat the outside of your sleeping bag. And it's kind of worthless in a tent, IMHO, except as a radiant heat source for like warming your hands if you have to do something without gloves or mittens on. It shouldn't produce CO. The issue is that it's supposed to shut off, and it will in normal use, if there's not enough oxygen. So it needs ventilation for that. As you can tell, I'm not very fond of it. But it gets an occasional use.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 17564.0, "score_ratio": 1000.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "yqncl2", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.83, "history": "Need real advice about buddy heaters Avid camper here , plan on going more remote this winter to camp with my girl Bought a buddy heater today and would like some anecdotal experience with using these in tents I plan on buying two carbon alarms just in case of course , I\u2019m just curious as to how many people have slept in tents etc with these buddy heaters on Thanks fellow campers !", "c_root_id_A": "ivqsc1r", "c_root_id_B": "ivpgo3x", "created_at_utc_A": 1668033783, "created_at_utc_B": 1668015276, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 0, "human_ref_A": "Use the little buddy inside a 4 person tent, does a decent job in the shoulder season. Queen bed and two adults with warm bedding. 1lb cylinders last one night's sleep.", "human_ref_B": "I would never use one in tent while sleeping. I don't even use it in my van sleeping. Too easy for something to go wrong, since that heating element is not very well shielded. Also, they produce a LOT of water vapor. Which adds to what you produce and it gets all over stuff. And since you're snugged into sleeping gear that presumably will keep you warm, all the heater does then is heat the outside of your sleeping bag. And it's kind of worthless in a tent, IMHO, except as a radiant heat source for like warming your hands if you have to do something without gloves or mittens on. It shouldn't produce CO. The issue is that it's supposed to shut off, and it will in normal use, if there's not enough oxygen. So it needs ventilation for that. As you can tell, I'm not very fond of it. But it gets an occasional use.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 18507.0, "score_ratio": 1000.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "yqncl2", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.83, "history": "Need real advice about buddy heaters Avid camper here , plan on going more remote this winter to camp with my girl Bought a buddy heater today and would like some anecdotal experience with using these in tents I plan on buying two carbon alarms just in case of course , I\u2019m just curious as to how many people have slept in tents etc with these buddy heaters on Thanks fellow campers !", "c_root_id_A": "ivpgo3x", "c_root_id_B": "ivqth6i", "created_at_utc_A": 1668015276, "created_at_utc_B": 1668034269, "score_A": 0, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I would never use one in tent while sleeping. I don't even use it in my van sleeping. Too easy for something to go wrong, since that heating element is not very well shielded. Also, they produce a LOT of water vapor. Which adds to what you produce and it gets all over stuff. And since you're snugged into sleeping gear that presumably will keep you warm, all the heater does then is heat the outside of your sleeping bag. And it's kind of worthless in a tent, IMHO, except as a radiant heat source for like warming your hands if you have to do something without gloves or mittens on. It shouldn't produce CO. The issue is that it's supposed to shut off, and it will in normal use, if there's not enough oxygen. So it needs ventilation for that. As you can tell, I'm not very fond of it. But it gets an occasional use.", "human_ref_B": "A tent is ventilated plenty well, no risk. Watch this video, there is no detectable CO increase using it indoors. I tend to bundle up well enough at night I don't need it, save for a few minutes while getting ready for bed and I run it for a few minutes before getting out of my bag in the morning.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 18993.0, "score_ratio": 1000.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "yqncl2", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.83, "history": "Need real advice about buddy heaters Avid camper here , plan on going more remote this winter to camp with my girl Bought a buddy heater today and would like some anecdotal experience with using these in tents I plan on buying two carbon alarms just in case of course , I\u2019m just curious as to how many people have slept in tents etc with these buddy heaters on Thanks fellow campers !", "c_root_id_A": "ivpgo3x", "c_root_id_B": "ivr3j34", "created_at_utc_A": 1668015276, "created_at_utc_B": 1668038643, "score_A": 0, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I would never use one in tent while sleeping. I don't even use it in my van sleeping. Too easy for something to go wrong, since that heating element is not very well shielded. Also, they produce a LOT of water vapor. Which adds to what you produce and it gets all over stuff. And since you're snugged into sleeping gear that presumably will keep you warm, all the heater does then is heat the outside of your sleeping bag. And it's kind of worthless in a tent, IMHO, except as a radiant heat source for like warming your hands if you have to do something without gloves or mittens on. It shouldn't produce CO. The issue is that it's supposed to shut off, and it will in normal use, if there's not enough oxygen. So it needs ventilation for that. As you can tell, I'm not very fond of it. But it gets an occasional use.", "human_ref_B": "I use when, I try to slope just slightly and out up at the higher part of the tent(large tent). I put the buddy by the door. Carbon mo oxide is heavyset than air so it sinks. Small cracks in the door and windows. It does leave ice or a puddle, not a deal breaker. I tried to buy the adaptor at the store to hook up to a 5 gallon tank but it doesn\u2019t work. Need to go to a propane store and have them fit one. I can use 2 small tanks in one night on low. Some people will use one with just the pilot all night if they are in a car or can.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 23367.0, "score_ratio": 1000.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "yqncl2", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.83, "history": "Need real advice about buddy heaters Avid camper here , plan on going more remote this winter to camp with my girl Bought a buddy heater today and would like some anecdotal experience with using these in tents I plan on buying two carbon alarms just in case of course , I\u2019m just curious as to how many people have slept in tents etc with these buddy heaters on Thanks fellow campers !", "c_root_id_A": "ivr5xwc", "c_root_id_B": "ivpgo3x", "created_at_utc_A": 1668039729, "created_at_utc_B": 1668015276, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 0, "human_ref_A": "I use mine all winter in portable ice fishing house without issues", "human_ref_B": "I would never use one in tent while sleeping. I don't even use it in my van sleeping. Too easy for something to go wrong, since that heating element is not very well shielded. Also, they produce a LOT of water vapor. Which adds to what you produce and it gets all over stuff. And since you're snugged into sleeping gear that presumably will keep you warm, all the heater does then is heat the outside of your sleeping bag. And it's kind of worthless in a tent, IMHO, except as a radiant heat source for like warming your hands if you have to do something without gloves or mittens on. It shouldn't produce CO. The issue is that it's supposed to shut off, and it will in normal use, if there's not enough oxygen. So it needs ventilation for that. As you can tell, I'm not very fond of it. But it gets an occasional use.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 24453.0, "score_ratio": 1000.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "yqncl2", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.83, "history": "Need real advice about buddy heaters Avid camper here , plan on going more remote this winter to camp with my girl Bought a buddy heater today and would like some anecdotal experience with using these in tents I plan on buying two carbon alarms just in case of course , I\u2019m just curious as to how many people have slept in tents etc with these buddy heaters on Thanks fellow campers !", "c_root_id_A": "ivpgo3x", "c_root_id_B": "ivre4zf", "created_at_utc_A": 1668015276, "created_at_utc_B": 1668043449, "score_A": 0, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I would never use one in tent while sleeping. I don't even use it in my van sleeping. Too easy for something to go wrong, since that heating element is not very well shielded. Also, they produce a LOT of water vapor. Which adds to what you produce and it gets all over stuff. And since you're snugged into sleeping gear that presumably will keep you warm, all the heater does then is heat the outside of your sleeping bag. And it's kind of worthless in a tent, IMHO, except as a radiant heat source for like warming your hands if you have to do something without gloves or mittens on. It shouldn't produce CO. The issue is that it's supposed to shut off, and it will in normal use, if there's not enough oxygen. So it needs ventilation for that. As you can tell, I'm not very fond of it. But it gets an occasional use.", "human_ref_B": "Run a filter on the gas line, and use a \u201cHot\u201d tent.\u26fa\ufe0f", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 28173.0, "score_ratio": 1000.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "yqncl2", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.83, "history": "Need real advice about buddy heaters Avid camper here , plan on going more remote this winter to camp with my girl Bought a buddy heater today and would like some anecdotal experience with using these in tents I plan on buying two carbon alarms just in case of course , I\u2019m just curious as to how many people have slept in tents etc with these buddy heaters on Thanks fellow campers !", "c_root_id_A": "ivpgo3x", "c_root_id_B": "ivriitf", "created_at_utc_A": 1668015276, "created_at_utc_B": 1668045446, "score_A": 0, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I would never use one in tent while sleeping. I don't even use it in my van sleeping. Too easy for something to go wrong, since that heating element is not very well shielded. Also, they produce a LOT of water vapor. Which adds to what you produce and it gets all over stuff. And since you're snugged into sleeping gear that presumably will keep you warm, all the heater does then is heat the outside of your sleeping bag. And it's kind of worthless in a tent, IMHO, except as a radiant heat source for like warming your hands if you have to do something without gloves or mittens on. It shouldn't produce CO. The issue is that it's supposed to shut off, and it will in normal use, if there's not enough oxygen. So it needs ventilation for that. As you can tell, I'm not very fond of it. But it gets an occasional use.", "human_ref_B": "I've used a propane heater in a tent to take off the chill in the morning, but never ran it all night as we slept. I never felt safe doing that...", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 30170.0, "score_ratio": 1000.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "yqncl2", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.83, "history": "Need real advice about buddy heaters Avid camper here , plan on going more remote this winter to camp with my girl Bought a buddy heater today and would like some anecdotal experience with using these in tents I plan on buying two carbon alarms just in case of course , I\u2019m just curious as to how many people have slept in tents etc with these buddy heaters on Thanks fellow campers !", "c_root_id_A": "ivtk4ep", "c_root_id_B": "ivpgo3x", "created_at_utc_A": 1668091431, "created_at_utc_B": 1668015276, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 0, "human_ref_A": "My friend, the only valuable advice to you is keep a towel handy and wipe the walls and ceiling down every so often. Accept that you will get wet. There will be water on everything I've tried everything as far as ventilation and air circulation etc.. Just wipe. It will be wet. The colder it is outside, the wetter it will be inside. I use the buddy heaters for two weeks at a time every year for hunt camp. Wet.", "human_ref_B": "I would never use one in tent while sleeping. I don't even use it in my van sleeping. Too easy for something to go wrong, since that heating element is not very well shielded. Also, they produce a LOT of water vapor. Which adds to what you produce and it gets all over stuff. And since you're snugged into sleeping gear that presumably will keep you warm, all the heater does then is heat the outside of your sleeping bag. And it's kind of worthless in a tent, IMHO, except as a radiant heat source for like warming your hands if you have to do something without gloves or mittens on. It shouldn't produce CO. The issue is that it's supposed to shut off, and it will in normal use, if there's not enough oxygen. So it needs ventilation for that. As you can tell, I'm not very fond of it. But it gets an occasional use.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 76155.0, "score_ratio": 1000.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "yqncl2", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.83, "history": "Need real advice about buddy heaters Avid camper here , plan on going more remote this winter to camp with my girl Bought a buddy heater today and would like some anecdotal experience with using these in tents I plan on buying two carbon alarms just in case of course , I\u2019m just curious as to how many people have slept in tents etc with these buddy heaters on Thanks fellow campers !", "c_root_id_A": "ivq83rg", "c_root_id_B": "ivqef7n", "created_at_utc_A": 1668025884, "created_at_utc_B": 1668028293, "score_A": 0, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "We use ours in our tent all the time. My whole family are avid fall/winter campers. We do a big (25person) thanksgiving camp every year in the mountains. We all have them. My tent has great ventilation up top via the rain fly so we keep the windows closed. 10 person instant tent. We also place it on top of a tote to be level with the cot we sleep on. We connect to a 20lb propane tank that sits outside the tent because on high it goes through the 1lb in about 3 hours. The one we have anyway. Edit: We never have a problem with moisture. Most tents that have a screen roof are well ventilated and it\u2019s not a problem.", "human_ref_B": "I went winter camping with one, had a carbon alarm on the other side of my tent. We used that sucker on and off all night (small propane tanks) and it worked amazing, alarm never went off. I will say this, you plan on using it overnight, but a hose and bigger propane tank to last the night, if sucks getting up constantly to change the propane tanks. I went through 3 in one night.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 2409.0, "score_ratio": 1000.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "yqncl2", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.83, "history": "Need real advice about buddy heaters Avid camper here , plan on going more remote this winter to camp with my girl Bought a buddy heater today and would like some anecdotal experience with using these in tents I plan on buying two carbon alarms just in case of course , I\u2019m just curious as to how many people have slept in tents etc with these buddy heaters on Thanks fellow campers !", "c_root_id_A": "ivqmsu7", "c_root_id_B": "ivq83rg", "created_at_utc_A": 1668031520, "created_at_utc_B": 1668025884, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 0, "human_ref_A": "I've used these many times in my ice hut and a million times in my popup camper with my family in it. I like that it's silent where my camper heater blows a fan and turns off and on all night. The only ventilation in my popup is where the canvas has detached by the door, about 6 inches. I don't know how big your tent is. My ice hut is stand up, but pretty tiny and i've never opened a window. I feel like ice huts were what they were originally designed for, but I could be wrong. I have a ton of faith in Mr Buddy. If you have an extra detector, you should be perfectly fine.", "human_ref_B": "We use ours in our tent all the time. My whole family are avid fall/winter campers. We do a big (25person) thanksgiving camp every year in the mountains. We all have them. My tent has great ventilation up top via the rain fly so we keep the windows closed. 10 person instant tent. We also place it on top of a tote to be level with the cot we sleep on. We connect to a 20lb propane tank that sits outside the tent because on high it goes through the 1lb in about 3 hours. The one we have anyway. Edit: We never have a problem with moisture. Most tents that have a screen roof are well ventilated and it\u2019s not a problem.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 5636.0, "score_ratio": 1000.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "yqncl2", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.83, "history": "Need real advice about buddy heaters Avid camper here , plan on going more remote this winter to camp with my girl Bought a buddy heater today and would like some anecdotal experience with using these in tents I plan on buying two carbon alarms just in case of course , I\u2019m just curious as to how many people have slept in tents etc with these buddy heaters on Thanks fellow campers !", "c_root_id_A": "ivqomdp", "c_root_id_B": "ivq83rg", "created_at_utc_A": 1668032257, "created_at_utc_B": 1668025884, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 0, "human_ref_A": "They are not bad, but you are always taking a chance with them both from fire safety, personal safety for young children, as well as carbon monoxide perspective (generally not a problem if kept in good working order). They also produce a lot of moisture, which is another reason to use them sparingly. I would use them to prewarm the tent before retiring for the night, and again to warm it up in the morning, but while sleeping a good sleeping mat and sleeping bag are all you really need.", "human_ref_B": "We use ours in our tent all the time. My whole family are avid fall/winter campers. We do a big (25person) thanksgiving camp every year in the mountains. We all have them. My tent has great ventilation up top via the rain fly so we keep the windows closed. 10 person instant tent. We also place it on top of a tote to be level with the cot we sleep on. We connect to a 20lb propane tank that sits outside the tent because on high it goes through the 1lb in about 3 hours. The one we have anyway. Edit: We never have a problem with moisture. Most tents that have a screen roof are well ventilated and it\u2019s not a problem.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 6373.0, "score_ratio": 1000.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "yqncl2", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.83, "history": "Need real advice about buddy heaters Avid camper here , plan on going more remote this winter to camp with my girl Bought a buddy heater today and would like some anecdotal experience with using these in tents I plan on buying two carbon alarms just in case of course , I\u2019m just curious as to how many people have slept in tents etc with these buddy heaters on Thanks fellow campers !", "c_root_id_A": "ivqq2ug", "c_root_id_B": "ivq83rg", "created_at_utc_A": 1668032840, "created_at_utc_B": 1668025884, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 0, "human_ref_A": "Man I freaking love my buddy heater. So much better waking up on a freezing morning when I can turn to my side and light up the buddy heater before getting out of bed.", "human_ref_B": "We use ours in our tent all the time. My whole family are avid fall/winter campers. We do a big (25person) thanksgiving camp every year in the mountains. We all have them. My tent has great ventilation up top via the rain fly so we keep the windows closed. 10 person instant tent. We also place it on top of a tote to be level with the cot we sleep on. We connect to a 20lb propane tank that sits outside the tent because on high it goes through the 1lb in about 3 hours. The one we have anyway. Edit: We never have a problem with moisture. Most tents that have a screen roof are well ventilated and it\u2019s not a problem.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 6956.0, "score_ratio": 1000.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "yqncl2", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.83, "history": "Need real advice about buddy heaters Avid camper here , plan on going more remote this winter to camp with my girl Bought a buddy heater today and would like some anecdotal experience with using these in tents I plan on buying two carbon alarms just in case of course , I\u2019m just curious as to how many people have slept in tents etc with these buddy heaters on Thanks fellow campers !", "c_root_id_A": "ivqsc1r", "c_root_id_B": "ivq83rg", "created_at_utc_A": 1668033783, "created_at_utc_B": 1668025884, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 0, "human_ref_A": "Use the little buddy inside a 4 person tent, does a decent job in the shoulder season. Queen bed and two adults with warm bedding. 1lb cylinders last one night's sleep.", "human_ref_B": "We use ours in our tent all the time. My whole family are avid fall/winter campers. We do a big (25person) thanksgiving camp every year in the mountains. We all have them. My tent has great ventilation up top via the rain fly so we keep the windows closed. 10 person instant tent. We also place it on top of a tote to be level with the cot we sleep on. We connect to a 20lb propane tank that sits outside the tent because on high it goes through the 1lb in about 3 hours. The one we have anyway. Edit: We never have a problem with moisture. Most tents that have a screen roof are well ventilated and it\u2019s not a problem.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 7899.0, "score_ratio": 1000.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "yqncl2", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.83, "history": "Need real advice about buddy heaters Avid camper here , plan on going more remote this winter to camp with my girl Bought a buddy heater today and would like some anecdotal experience with using these in tents I plan on buying two carbon alarms just in case of course , I\u2019m just curious as to how many people have slept in tents etc with these buddy heaters on Thanks fellow campers !", "c_root_id_A": "ivqth6i", "c_root_id_B": "ivq83rg", "created_at_utc_A": 1668034269, "created_at_utc_B": 1668025884, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 0, "human_ref_A": "A tent is ventilated plenty well, no risk. Watch this video, there is no detectable CO increase using it indoors. I tend to bundle up well enough at night I don't need it, save for a few minutes while getting ready for bed and I run it for a few minutes before getting out of my bag in the morning.", "human_ref_B": "We use ours in our tent all the time. My whole family are avid fall/winter campers. We do a big (25person) thanksgiving camp every year in the mountains. We all have them. My tent has great ventilation up top via the rain fly so we keep the windows closed. 10 person instant tent. We also place it on top of a tote to be level with the cot we sleep on. We connect to a 20lb propane tank that sits outside the tent because on high it goes through the 1lb in about 3 hours. The one we have anyway. Edit: We never have a problem with moisture. Most tents that have a screen roof are well ventilated and it\u2019s not a problem.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 8385.0, "score_ratio": 1000.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "yqncl2", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.83, "history": "Need real advice about buddy heaters Avid camper here , plan on going more remote this winter to camp with my girl Bought a buddy heater today and would like some anecdotal experience with using these in tents I plan on buying two carbon alarms just in case of course , I\u2019m just curious as to how many people have slept in tents etc with these buddy heaters on Thanks fellow campers !", "c_root_id_A": "ivq83rg", "c_root_id_B": "ivr3j34", "created_at_utc_A": 1668025884, "created_at_utc_B": 1668038643, "score_A": 0, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "We use ours in our tent all the time. My whole family are avid fall/winter campers. We do a big (25person) thanksgiving camp every year in the mountains. We all have them. My tent has great ventilation up top via the rain fly so we keep the windows closed. 10 person instant tent. We also place it on top of a tote to be level with the cot we sleep on. We connect to a 20lb propane tank that sits outside the tent because on high it goes through the 1lb in about 3 hours. The one we have anyway. Edit: We never have a problem with moisture. Most tents that have a screen roof are well ventilated and it\u2019s not a problem.", "human_ref_B": "I use when, I try to slope just slightly and out up at the higher part of the tent(large tent). I put the buddy by the door. Carbon mo oxide is heavyset than air so it sinks. Small cracks in the door and windows. It does leave ice or a puddle, not a deal breaker. I tried to buy the adaptor at the store to hook up to a 5 gallon tank but it doesn\u2019t work. Need to go to a propane store and have them fit one. I can use 2 small tanks in one night on low. Some people will use one with just the pilot all night if they are in a car or can.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 12759.0, "score_ratio": 1000.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "yqncl2", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.83, "history": "Need real advice about buddy heaters Avid camper here , plan on going more remote this winter to camp with my girl Bought a buddy heater today and would like some anecdotal experience with using these in tents I plan on buying two carbon alarms just in case of course , I\u2019m just curious as to how many people have slept in tents etc with these buddy heaters on Thanks fellow campers !", "c_root_id_A": "ivq83rg", "c_root_id_B": "ivr5xwc", "created_at_utc_A": 1668025884, "created_at_utc_B": 1668039729, "score_A": 0, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "We use ours in our tent all the time. My whole family are avid fall/winter campers. We do a big (25person) thanksgiving camp every year in the mountains. We all have them. My tent has great ventilation up top via the rain fly so we keep the windows closed. 10 person instant tent. We also place it on top of a tote to be level with the cot we sleep on. We connect to a 20lb propane tank that sits outside the tent because on high it goes through the 1lb in about 3 hours. The one we have anyway. Edit: We never have a problem with moisture. Most tents that have a screen roof are well ventilated and it\u2019s not a problem.", "human_ref_B": "I use mine all winter in portable ice fishing house without issues", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 13845.0, "score_ratio": 1000.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "yqncl2", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.83, "history": "Need real advice about buddy heaters Avid camper here , plan on going more remote this winter to camp with my girl Bought a buddy heater today and would like some anecdotal experience with using these in tents I plan on buying two carbon alarms just in case of course , I\u2019m just curious as to how many people have slept in tents etc with these buddy heaters on Thanks fellow campers !", "c_root_id_A": "ivre4zf", "c_root_id_B": "ivq83rg", "created_at_utc_A": 1668043449, "created_at_utc_B": 1668025884, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 0, "human_ref_A": "Run a filter on the gas line, and use a \u201cHot\u201d tent.\u26fa\ufe0f", "human_ref_B": "We use ours in our tent all the time. My whole family are avid fall/winter campers. We do a big (25person) thanksgiving camp every year in the mountains. We all have them. My tent has great ventilation up top via the rain fly so we keep the windows closed. 10 person instant tent. We also place it on top of a tote to be level with the cot we sleep on. We connect to a 20lb propane tank that sits outside the tent because on high it goes through the 1lb in about 3 hours. The one we have anyway. Edit: We never have a problem with moisture. Most tents that have a screen roof are well ventilated and it\u2019s not a problem.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 17565.0, "score_ratio": 1000.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "yqncl2", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.83, "history": "Need real advice about buddy heaters Avid camper here , plan on going more remote this winter to camp with my girl Bought a buddy heater today and would like some anecdotal experience with using these in tents I plan on buying two carbon alarms just in case of course , I\u2019m just curious as to how many people have slept in tents etc with these buddy heaters on Thanks fellow campers !", "c_root_id_A": "ivriitf", "c_root_id_B": "ivq83rg", "created_at_utc_A": 1668045446, "created_at_utc_B": 1668025884, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 0, "human_ref_A": "I've used a propane heater in a tent to take off the chill in the morning, but never ran it all night as we slept. I never felt safe doing that...", "human_ref_B": "We use ours in our tent all the time. My whole family are avid fall/winter campers. We do a big (25person) thanksgiving camp every year in the mountains. We all have them. My tent has great ventilation up top via the rain fly so we keep the windows closed. 10 person instant tent. We also place it on top of a tote to be level with the cot we sleep on. We connect to a 20lb propane tank that sits outside the tent because on high it goes through the 1lb in about 3 hours. The one we have anyway. Edit: We never have a problem with moisture. Most tents that have a screen roof are well ventilated and it\u2019s not a problem.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 19562.0, "score_ratio": 1000.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "yqncl2", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.83, "history": "Need real advice about buddy heaters Avid camper here , plan on going more remote this winter to camp with my girl Bought a buddy heater today and would like some anecdotal experience with using these in tents I plan on buying two carbon alarms just in case of course , I\u2019m just curious as to how many people have slept in tents etc with these buddy heaters on Thanks fellow campers !", "c_root_id_A": "ivq83rg", "c_root_id_B": "ivtk4ep", "created_at_utc_A": 1668025884, "created_at_utc_B": 1668091431, "score_A": 0, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "We use ours in our tent all the time. My whole family are avid fall/winter campers. We do a big (25person) thanksgiving camp every year in the mountains. We all have them. My tent has great ventilation up top via the rain fly so we keep the windows closed. 10 person instant tent. We also place it on top of a tote to be level with the cot we sleep on. We connect to a 20lb propane tank that sits outside the tent because on high it goes through the 1lb in about 3 hours. The one we have anyway. Edit: We never have a problem with moisture. Most tents that have a screen roof are well ventilated and it\u2019s not a problem.", "human_ref_B": "My friend, the only valuable advice to you is keep a towel handy and wipe the walls and ceiling down every so often. Accept that you will get wet. There will be water on everything I've tried everything as far as ventilation and air circulation etc.. Just wipe. It will be wet. The colder it is outside, the wetter it will be inside. I use the buddy heaters for two weeks at a time every year for hunt camp. Wet.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 65547.0, "score_ratio": 1000.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "q3ice4", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.8, "history": "Anyone tried the hot tent camping thing. Did once last year and froze my rear off at 32 F. Any tips? Got one of those Seek Outside Cimmaron tents and the mid-tier packable stoves. Stove would last maybe 20 minutes before needing tended. Tent barely held heat. Felt I might as well ditch stove and just stay in sleeping bag. Would canvas hold the heat much longer?", "c_root_id_A": "hfs2a7h", "c_root_id_B": "hftdspp", "created_at_utc_A": 1633642267, "created_at_utc_B": 1633665640, "score_A": 3, "score_B": 4, "human_ref_A": "The key to a stove is to get a good base of coals... you don't want a flaming fire... one of the tricks I've used is from BBQing... and setting up a snake system... so that wood burns in succession... hot coals on one side and wood setup to slide or roll towards hot coals as it slow burns.", "human_ref_B": "I use a buddy heater with grill size propane bottle that stays outside tent. I use a Kodiak canvas 10\u2019x14\u2019 tent. This is a good base camp/ truck camping setup. There\u2019s no temperature to low that I\u2019m not comfortable.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 23373.0, "score_ratio": 1.3333333333, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "q3ice4", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.8, "history": "Anyone tried the hot tent camping thing. Did once last year and froze my rear off at 32 F. Any tips? Got one of those Seek Outside Cimmaron tents and the mid-tier packable stoves. Stove would last maybe 20 minutes before needing tended. Tent barely held heat. Felt I might as well ditch stove and just stay in sleeping bag. Would canvas hold the heat much longer?", "c_root_id_A": "hftdspp", "c_root_id_B": "hfsxgu9", "created_at_utc_A": 1633665640, "created_at_utc_B": 1633657227, "score_A": 4, "score_B": 3, "human_ref_A": "I use a buddy heater with grill size propane bottle that stays outside tent. I use a Kodiak canvas 10\u2019x14\u2019 tent. This is a good base camp/ truck camping setup. There\u2019s no temperature to low that I\u2019m not comfortable.", "human_ref_B": "Does the stove have a damper and intake control? If you run it wide open, your fuel will burn hot, yes, but quickly, annd a lot of your heat is blowing right out the pipe. You want to use the damper to keep the heat in the stove and slow the burn to make the fuel last longer. Damp the exhaust, and limit the intake proportionally. Larger pieces of wood take longer to burn through than smaller pieces. A single chunk approaching the maximum size the stove can accommodate will last exponentially longer than stuffing it to the gills with twigs and tinder-size material. Ninja edit: tent also isn't really meant for insulation.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 8413.0, "score_ratio": 1.3333333333, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "q3ice4", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.8, "history": "Anyone tried the hot tent camping thing. Did once last year and froze my rear off at 32 F. Any tips? Got one of those Seek Outside Cimmaron tents and the mid-tier packable stoves. Stove would last maybe 20 minutes before needing tended. Tent barely held heat. Felt I might as well ditch stove and just stay in sleeping bag. Would canvas hold the heat much longer?", "c_root_id_A": "hfrx944", "c_root_id_B": "hftdspp", "created_at_utc_A": 1633640082, "created_at_utc_B": 1633665640, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 4, "human_ref_A": "Canvas would definitely hold the heat better. I tried a couple times with an US Surplus army pup tent. Would be 100+ in that thing, not exactly made for a stove. Stove would last a couple hours and if I fell asleep I\u2019d wake up to it being out and cool. Wouldn\u2019t freeze cause I still had other gear. But ya, I felt like I was tending to the stove a lot until I got some good chunks In it.", "human_ref_B": "I use a buddy heater with grill size propane bottle that stays outside tent. I use a Kodiak canvas 10\u2019x14\u2019 tent. This is a good base camp/ truck camping setup. There\u2019s no temperature to low that I\u2019m not comfortable.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 25558.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "q3ice4", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.8, "history": "Anyone tried the hot tent camping thing. Did once last year and froze my rear off at 32 F. Any tips? Got one of those Seek Outside Cimmaron tents and the mid-tier packable stoves. Stove would last maybe 20 minutes before needing tended. Tent barely held heat. Felt I might as well ditch stove and just stay in sleeping bag. Would canvas hold the heat much longer?", "c_root_id_A": "hfs2a7h", "c_root_id_B": "hfrx944", "created_at_utc_A": 1633642267, "created_at_utc_B": 1633640082, "score_A": 3, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "The key to a stove is to get a good base of coals... you don't want a flaming fire... one of the tricks I've used is from BBQing... and setting up a snake system... so that wood burns in succession... hot coals on one side and wood setup to slide or roll towards hot coals as it slow burns.", "human_ref_B": "Canvas would definitely hold the heat better. I tried a couple times with an US Surplus army pup tent. Would be 100+ in that thing, not exactly made for a stove. Stove would last a couple hours and if I fell asleep I\u2019d wake up to it being out and cool. Wouldn\u2019t freeze cause I still had other gear. But ya, I felt like I was tending to the stove a lot until I got some good chunks In it.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 2185.0, "score_ratio": 1.5, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "q3ice4", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.8, "history": "Anyone tried the hot tent camping thing. Did once last year and froze my rear off at 32 F. Any tips? Got one of those Seek Outside Cimmaron tents and the mid-tier packable stoves. Stove would last maybe 20 minutes before needing tended. Tent barely held heat. Felt I might as well ditch stove and just stay in sleeping bag. Would canvas hold the heat much longer?", "c_root_id_A": "hfsxgu9", "c_root_id_B": "hfrx944", "created_at_utc_A": 1633657227, "created_at_utc_B": 1633640082, "score_A": 3, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "Does the stove have a damper and intake control? If you run it wide open, your fuel will burn hot, yes, but quickly, annd a lot of your heat is blowing right out the pipe. You want to use the damper to keep the heat in the stove and slow the burn to make the fuel last longer. Damp the exhaust, and limit the intake proportionally. Larger pieces of wood take longer to burn through than smaller pieces. A single chunk approaching the maximum size the stove can accommodate will last exponentially longer than stuffing it to the gills with twigs and tinder-size material. Ninja edit: tent also isn't really meant for insulation.", "human_ref_B": "Canvas would definitely hold the heat better. I tried a couple times with an US Surplus army pup tent. Would be 100+ in that thing, not exactly made for a stove. Stove would last a couple hours and if I fell asleep I\u2019d wake up to it being out and cool. Wouldn\u2019t freeze cause I still had other gear. But ya, I felt like I was tending to the stove a lot until I got some good chunks In it.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 17145.0, "score_ratio": 1.5, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "qxqer5", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.8, "history": "Winter Camping w/ Dogs Hello friends! I\u2019ve got a new camping companion (9 month old Irish Setter pup). We\u2019re gearing up for a season of winter camping in some harsh environments (mountains of NC, West Virginia, etc). Wondering if you have any products or tips you love to keep your furry companions dry and warm? Mostly interested in gear to keep him dry during the day and something to insulate from the ground at night. Thanks!", "c_root_id_A": "hlbb2lk", "c_root_id_B": "hlc2qwz", "created_at_utc_A": 1637360664, "created_at_utc_B": 1637372773, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 6, "human_ref_A": "I usually bring our pup's dog bed into the tent with a blanket. She usually sleeps in my quilt anyway...", "human_ref_B": ">We\u2019re gearing up for a season of winter camping in some harsh environments (mountains of NC, West Virginia, etc). *Cries in Manitoban*", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 12109.0, "score_ratio": 6.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "qxqer5", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.8, "history": "Winter Camping w/ Dogs Hello friends! I\u2019ve got a new camping companion (9 month old Irish Setter pup). We\u2019re gearing up for a season of winter camping in some harsh environments (mountains of NC, West Virginia, etc). Wondering if you have any products or tips you love to keep your furry companions dry and warm? Mostly interested in gear to keep him dry during the day and something to insulate from the ground at night. Thanks!", "c_root_id_A": "hlbjkpf", "c_root_id_B": "hlc2qwz", "created_at_utc_A": 1637364211, "created_at_utc_B": 1637372773, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 6, "human_ref_A": "I have an oversized bag that I share with my GSP, we stay nice and toasty\u2026", "human_ref_B": ">We\u2019re gearing up for a season of winter camping in some harsh environments (mountains of NC, West Virginia, etc). *Cries in Manitoban*", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 8562.0, "score_ratio": 6.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "qxqer5", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.8, "history": "Winter Camping w/ Dogs Hello friends! I\u2019ve got a new camping companion (9 month old Irish Setter pup). We\u2019re gearing up for a season of winter camping in some harsh environments (mountains of NC, West Virginia, etc). Wondering if you have any products or tips you love to keep your furry companions dry and warm? Mostly interested in gear to keep him dry during the day and something to insulate from the ground at night. Thanks!", "c_root_id_A": "hlb66oa", "c_root_id_B": "hlc2qwz", "created_at_utc_A": 1637358632, "created_at_utc_B": 1637372773, "score_A": -2, "score_B": 6, "human_ref_A": "It\u2019s a hunting dog. Don\u2019t wash him and the oils will repel the water. He\u2019ll be warm enough on his own.", "human_ref_B": ">We\u2019re gearing up for a season of winter camping in some harsh environments (mountains of NC, West Virginia, etc). *Cries in Manitoban*", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 14141.0, "score_ratio": -3.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "qxqer5", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.8, "history": "Winter Camping w/ Dogs Hello friends! I\u2019ve got a new camping companion (9 month old Irish Setter pup). We\u2019re gearing up for a season of winter camping in some harsh environments (mountains of NC, West Virginia, etc). Wondering if you have any products or tips you love to keep your furry companions dry and warm? Mostly interested in gear to keep him dry during the day and something to insulate from the ground at night. Thanks!", "c_root_id_A": "hlb66oa", "c_root_id_B": "hlbb2lk", "created_at_utc_A": 1637358632, "created_at_utc_B": 1637360664, "score_A": -2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "It\u2019s a hunting dog. Don\u2019t wash him and the oils will repel the water. He\u2019ll be warm enough on his own.", "human_ref_B": "I usually bring our pup's dog bed into the tent with a blanket. She usually sleeps in my quilt anyway...", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 2032.0, "score_ratio": -0.5, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "qxqer5", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.8, "history": "Winter Camping w/ Dogs Hello friends! I\u2019ve got a new camping companion (9 month old Irish Setter pup). We\u2019re gearing up for a season of winter camping in some harsh environments (mountains of NC, West Virginia, etc). Wondering if you have any products or tips you love to keep your furry companions dry and warm? Mostly interested in gear to keep him dry during the day and something to insulate from the ground at night. Thanks!", "c_root_id_A": "hlbjkpf", "c_root_id_B": "hlb66oa", "created_at_utc_A": 1637364211, "created_at_utc_B": 1637358632, "score_A": 1, "score_B": -2, "human_ref_A": "I have an oversized bag that I share with my GSP, we stay nice and toasty\u2026", "human_ref_B": "It\u2019s a hunting dog. Don\u2019t wash him and the oils will repel the water. He\u2019ll be warm enough on his own.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 5579.0, "score_ratio": -0.5, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "qxqer5", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.8, "history": "Winter Camping w/ Dogs Hello friends! I\u2019ve got a new camping companion (9 month old Irish Setter pup). We\u2019re gearing up for a season of winter camping in some harsh environments (mountains of NC, West Virginia, etc). Wondering if you have any products or tips you love to keep your furry companions dry and warm? Mostly interested in gear to keep him dry during the day and something to insulate from the ground at night. Thanks!", "c_root_id_A": "hlclzdq", "c_root_id_B": "hlb66oa", "created_at_utc_A": 1637382708, "created_at_utc_B": 1637358632, "score_A": 1, "score_B": -2, "human_ref_A": "We had a neoprene vest that worked great in the snow for our dog. Kept him dry and warm during the day. At night he just huddled with us in or between our bags.", "human_ref_B": "It\u2019s a hunting dog. Don\u2019t wash him and the oils will repel the water. He\u2019ll be warm enough on his own.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 24076.0, "score_ratio": -0.5, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "qxqer5", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.8, "history": "Winter Camping w/ Dogs Hello friends! I\u2019ve got a new camping companion (9 month old Irish Setter pup). We\u2019re gearing up for a season of winter camping in some harsh environments (mountains of NC, West Virginia, etc). Wondering if you have any products or tips you love to keep your furry companions dry and warm? Mostly interested in gear to keep him dry during the day and something to insulate from the ground at night. Thanks!", "c_root_id_A": "hlclzdq", "c_root_id_B": "hlc8tam", "created_at_utc_A": 1637382708, "created_at_utc_B": 1637375690, "score_A": 1, "score_B": -11, "human_ref_A": "We had a neoprene vest that worked great in the snow for our dog. Kept him dry and warm during the day. At night he just huddled with us in or between our bags.", "human_ref_B": "Make sure it shits on the trail at least twice a day. Spreading disease via dog poop is bonus points. Also, it should always be scaring and stressing out any local wildlife. You can\u2019t let other hikers or native animals have too good a time.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 7018.0, "score_ratio": -0.0909090909, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "qxqer5", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.8, "history": "Winter Camping w/ Dogs Hello friends! I\u2019ve got a new camping companion (9 month old Irish Setter pup). We\u2019re gearing up for a season of winter camping in some harsh environments (mountains of NC, West Virginia, etc). Wondering if you have any products or tips you love to keep your furry companions dry and warm? Mostly interested in gear to keep him dry during the day and something to insulate from the ground at night. Thanks!", "c_root_id_A": "hlemji9", "c_root_id_B": "hlb66oa", "created_at_utc_A": 1637428998, "created_at_utc_B": 1637358632, "score_A": 1, "score_B": -2, "human_ref_A": "During our Canadian winters we provide a mat for our two dogs to lay on instead of laying in the snow. At night they join us in the tent or trailer. Molly is 9 and Harley is 7. They have never had any special gear placed on them while outside in minus temperatures. I have some friends that bring a folding chair just for their dog, instead of a matt. Our dogs always look confused, when they are out with us lol", "human_ref_B": "It\u2019s a hunting dog. Don\u2019t wash him and the oils will repel the water. He\u2019ll be warm enough on his own.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 70366.0, "score_ratio": -0.5, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "qxqer5", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.8, "history": "Winter Camping w/ Dogs Hello friends! I\u2019ve got a new camping companion (9 month old Irish Setter pup). We\u2019re gearing up for a season of winter camping in some harsh environments (mountains of NC, West Virginia, etc). Wondering if you have any products or tips you love to keep your furry companions dry and warm? Mostly interested in gear to keep him dry during the day and something to insulate from the ground at night. Thanks!", "c_root_id_A": "hlemji9", "c_root_id_B": "hlc8tam", "created_at_utc_A": 1637428998, "created_at_utc_B": 1637375690, "score_A": 1, "score_B": -11, "human_ref_A": "During our Canadian winters we provide a mat for our two dogs to lay on instead of laying in the snow. At night they join us in the tent or trailer. Molly is 9 and Harley is 7. They have never had any special gear placed on them while outside in minus temperatures. I have some friends that bring a folding chair just for their dog, instead of a matt. Our dogs always look confused, when they are out with us lol", "human_ref_B": "Make sure it shits on the trail at least twice a day. Spreading disease via dog poop is bonus points. Also, it should always be scaring and stressing out any local wildlife. You can\u2019t let other hikers or native animals have too good a time.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 53308.0, "score_ratio": -0.0909090909, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "l2vxs3", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.86, "history": "Air mattress vs cot? When we go camping,, we have at least 2 vehicles, so space and weight aren't ever an issue. My knees aren't great, so I got a double height air mattress. Its just a cheap Intex 1 from Walmart. Its said on the box it has inner baffles (I think thats the word...), but its still really wobbly! Are they all like that or would a better 1 be more stable? Or should I just get a cot?", "c_root_id_A": "gk8klry", "c_root_id_B": "gk8fjb3", "created_at_utc_A": 1611348811, "created_at_utc_B": 1611346815, "score_A": 7, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "Helinox Cot One or Lite Cot. It will last forever. I also recommend their chairs. If you are on a stricter budget there are good Chinese knockoffs like Hictorhike, Moon Lence, KingCamp iClimb and others sold on Amazon that are pretty decent. No matter what I would stay away from any of the steel cots. They weigh too much and are way too bulky. If you are going tonuse a pad buy a backpacking pad. Those queen size Intec and Coleman mattresses suck. No R value and they will leak; usually of course outside of the warranty. If you want a great budget brand then look at the Paria ReCharge XL (single person: $80) and DW (two people $130); 4.5 R value so you wont freeze your ass off.", "human_ref_B": "A good cot for your situation for sure. Just make sure to get a reputable brand.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 1996.0, "score_ratio": 3.5, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "l2vxs3", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.86, "history": "Air mattress vs cot? When we go camping,, we have at least 2 vehicles, so space and weight aren't ever an issue. My knees aren't great, so I got a double height air mattress. Its just a cheap Intex 1 from Walmart. Its said on the box it has inner baffles (I think thats the word...), but its still really wobbly! Are they all like that or would a better 1 be more stable? Or should I just get a cot?", "c_root_id_A": "gkafmep", "c_root_id_B": "gk8fjb3", "created_at_utc_A": 1611373566, "created_at_utc_B": 1611346815, "score_A": 6, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "Just get a cot. In my younger years, I slept on the ground in my sleeping bag, then a thin mat, then a single high air mattress, then a good double high and I just couldn't anymore. In order for me to continue camping, I had to make a change and that meant a cot. Yeah, it's heavy as hell. I got an XXL. I didn't need the extra length, but it's handy for dog space, but I'm one of those side/tummy/kick out a leg sleepers. Anyway, it gives me support to actually get up without crawling around. I can use it to lean against or sit on while I get dressed. It made a huge difference. I still needed a memory foam topper for it, but after I did that, it was pure bliss. No sweat from the air mattress or freezing or having to pump it up in the middle of the night. No extra furniture blankets for the top and under the air mattress to prevent from freezing or sweating. I don't have to crawl around on the floor to deflate and roll it up. I would get a lighter cot now I know better, but I have a strong kid that carries it and sets it up for me.", "human_ref_B": "A good cot for your situation for sure. Just make sure to get a reputable brand.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 26751.0, "score_ratio": 3.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "uhya97", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Which is better a Cot or Air Mattress? I\u2019m going camping this weekend to June Lake, I want to know which would be better to sleep on? I was also looking at the weather and Sunday night it\u2019s going to be 18 degrees Fahrenheit. Sleeping in a tent, the bag said 4 person tent. Don\u2019t know if that helps.", "c_root_id_A": "i79cj60", "c_root_id_B": "i796cox", "created_at_utc_A": 1651643018, "created_at_utc_B": 1651639055, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Cot with a closed cell foam pad", "human_ref_B": "I love my Coleman comfort cot. Takes up a lot of space but worth it.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 3963.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "uhya97", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Which is better a Cot or Air Mattress? I\u2019m going camping this weekend to June Lake, I want to know which would be better to sleep on? I was also looking at the weather and Sunday night it\u2019s going to be 18 degrees Fahrenheit. Sleeping in a tent, the bag said 4 person tent. Don\u2019t know if that helps.", "c_root_id_A": "i7asn7m", "c_root_id_B": "i796cox", "created_at_utc_A": 1651676368, "created_at_utc_B": 1651639055, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Exped Mega Mats are just as comfortable as my bed at home and much easier for me to sleep in because I'm a restless sleeper and roll around while I'm sleeping. It's also easier for two people", "human_ref_B": "I love my Coleman comfort cot. Takes up a lot of space but worth it.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 37313.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "uhya97", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Which is better a Cot or Air Mattress? I\u2019m going camping this weekend to June Lake, I want to know which would be better to sleep on? I was also looking at the weather and Sunday night it\u2019s going to be 18 degrees Fahrenheit. Sleeping in a tent, the bag said 4 person tent. Don\u2019t know if that helps.", "c_root_id_A": "i79shrs", "c_root_id_B": "i7asn7m", "created_at_utc_A": 1651656144, "created_at_utc_B": 1651676368, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "I prefer a cot as long as I'm using my big tent. When I'm hiking or biking in I use a foam and air pad. Being off the ground makes a huge difference in cold weather.", "human_ref_B": "Exped Mega Mats are just as comfortable as my bed at home and much easier for me to sleep in because I'm a restless sleeper and roll around while I'm sleeping. It's also easier for two people", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 20224.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "uhya97", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Which is better a Cot or Air Mattress? I\u2019m going camping this weekend to June Lake, I want to know which would be better to sleep on? I was also looking at the weather and Sunday night it\u2019s going to be 18 degrees Fahrenheit. Sleeping in a tent, the bag said 4 person tent. Don\u2019t know if that helps.", "c_root_id_A": "i7aqeof", "c_root_id_B": "i7asn7m", "created_at_utc_A": 1651675476, "created_at_utc_B": 1651676368, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "I love my cot! It\u2019s so much more comfortable IMO. Also, my gear fits under it so I have a lot more floor space inside my tent.", "human_ref_B": "Exped Mega Mats are just as comfortable as my bed at home and much easier for me to sleep in because I'm a restless sleeper and roll around while I'm sleeping. It's also easier for two people", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 892.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "tcr5dv", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Suggestions for camp mattress for a bad back? What are the most comfortable camp pads/mattresses you guys have found? I was in an accident years ago, and love to camp but can't go for more than a day or two because I can't sleep/end up in too much pain from sleeping on air mattresses and cots. The full intex air mattress was horrible, and I can't say my Coleman cot with pad was much better (even when I added an inch thick yoga mat on top). Have any back-pain friends found a mattress or pad that gives a good night sleep without pain?", "c_root_id_A": "i0ezzl9", "c_root_id_B": "i0f1nj9", "created_at_utc_A": 1647120201, "created_at_utc_B": 1647120943, "score_A": 5, "score_B": 6, "human_ref_A": "Maybe a hammock? Have a friend with a bad back and he swears by his.", "human_ref_B": "I can\u2019t offer any help on mattresses. I almost gave up on camping and then I was gifted a hammock. They aren\u2019t for everyone, but when I learned how to lay in them, I felt like I was floating. When I hammock camp, I have not woken up with back pain like I do every day at home. There are drawbacks, but there are also work arounds for them.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 742.0, "score_ratio": 1.2, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "tcr5dv", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Suggestions for camp mattress for a bad back? What are the most comfortable camp pads/mattresses you guys have found? I was in an accident years ago, and love to camp but can't go for more than a day or two because I can't sleep/end up in too much pain from sleeping on air mattresses and cots. The full intex air mattress was horrible, and I can't say my Coleman cot with pad was much better (even when I added an inch thick yoga mat on top). Have any back-pain friends found a mattress or pad that gives a good night sleep without pain?", "c_root_id_A": "i0f1nj9", "c_root_id_B": "i0f0h4e", "created_at_utc_A": 1647120943, "created_at_utc_B": 1647120418, "score_A": 6, "score_B": 4, "human_ref_A": "I can\u2019t offer any help on mattresses. I almost gave up on camping and then I was gifted a hammock. They aren\u2019t for everyone, but when I learned how to lay in them, I felt like I was floating. When I hammock camp, I have not woken up with back pain like I do every day at home. There are drawbacks, but there are also work arounds for them.", "human_ref_B": "Probably going to get the ire of the reddit community. I like one of those inflatable mattresses stores sell for guests. Heavy, but decent support, and thick enough to not bottom out. My back isn't bad, but my hips are and my shoulders will go numb if I am not in a good position. It is the only mattress that I get a decent night's sleep with when camping.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 525.0, "score_ratio": 1.5, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "tcr5dv", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Suggestions for camp mattress for a bad back? What are the most comfortable camp pads/mattresses you guys have found? I was in an accident years ago, and love to camp but can't go for more than a day or two because I can't sleep/end up in too much pain from sleeping on air mattresses and cots. The full intex air mattress was horrible, and I can't say my Coleman cot with pad was much better (even when I added an inch thick yoga mat on top). Have any back-pain friends found a mattress or pad that gives a good night sleep without pain?", "c_root_id_A": "i0f18wk", "c_root_id_B": "i0f1nj9", "created_at_utc_A": 1647120762, "created_at_utc_B": 1647120943, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 6, "human_ref_A": "Sometimes I use an exercise mat. Not the thin \"yoga mat\" kind. It's a large folding exercise mattress about 2\" thick. When folded up it forms 3 squares and has carrying handles.", "human_ref_B": "I can\u2019t offer any help on mattresses. I almost gave up on camping and then I was gifted a hammock. They aren\u2019t for everyone, but when I learned how to lay in them, I felt like I was floating. When I hammock camp, I have not woken up with back pain like I do every day at home. There are drawbacks, but there are also work arounds for them.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 181.0, "score_ratio": 6.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "tcr5dv", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Suggestions for camp mattress for a bad back? What are the most comfortable camp pads/mattresses you guys have found? I was in an accident years ago, and love to camp but can't go for more than a day or two because I can't sleep/end up in too much pain from sleeping on air mattresses and cots. The full intex air mattress was horrible, and I can't say my Coleman cot with pad was much better (even when I added an inch thick yoga mat on top). Have any back-pain friends found a mattress or pad that gives a good night sleep without pain?", "c_root_id_A": "i0fpt2b", "c_root_id_B": "i0f18wk", "created_at_utc_A": 1647132360, "created_at_utc_B": 1647120762, "score_A": 3, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "This is it. Hands down winner! https://www.exped.com/usa/en/product-category/mats/megamat-10-mw-green Better than most beds at home.", "human_ref_B": "Sometimes I use an exercise mat. Not the thin \"yoga mat\" kind. It's a large folding exercise mattress about 2\" thick. When folded up it forms 3 squares and has carrying handles.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 11598.0, "score_ratio": 3.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "tcr5dv", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Suggestions for camp mattress for a bad back? What are the most comfortable camp pads/mattresses you guys have found? I was in an accident years ago, and love to camp but can't go for more than a day or two because I can't sleep/end up in too much pain from sleeping on air mattresses and cots. The full intex air mattress was horrible, and I can't say my Coleman cot with pad was much better (even when I added an inch thick yoga mat on top). Have any back-pain friends found a mattress or pad that gives a good night sleep without pain?", "c_root_id_A": "i0frz5d", "c_root_id_B": "i0f18wk", "created_at_utc_A": 1647133452, "created_at_utc_B": 1647120762, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Oh I love the Nemo XL camping mattress. It has a built in foot pump and is light. I also have issues with my back and this is the only camping mattress I have been able to sleep on. You should be able to try it out at REI in the store. The key I found is not to inflate it all the way. It's so comfortable. It's a very expensive at $250, but I got mine on sale.", "human_ref_B": "Sometimes I use an exercise mat. Not the thin \"yoga mat\" kind. It's a large folding exercise mattress about 2\" thick. When folded up it forms 3 squares and has carrying handles.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 12690.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "tcr5dv", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Suggestions for camp mattress for a bad back? What are the most comfortable camp pads/mattresses you guys have found? I was in an accident years ago, and love to camp but can't go for more than a day or two because I can't sleep/end up in too much pain from sleeping on air mattresses and cots. The full intex air mattress was horrible, and I can't say my Coleman cot with pad was much better (even when I added an inch thick yoga mat on top). Have any back-pain friends found a mattress or pad that gives a good night sleep without pain?", "c_root_id_A": "i0f18wk", "c_root_id_B": "i0g9tzl", "created_at_utc_A": 1647120762, "created_at_utc_B": 1647142838, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "Sometimes I use an exercise mat. Not the thin \"yoga mat\" kind. It's a large folding exercise mattress about 2\" thick. When folded up it forms 3 squares and has carrying handles.", "human_ref_B": "My wife and I have a thick memory foam mattress from Cabelas. It\u2019s a little bulky but significantly better than an air mattress or cot.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 22076.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "tcr5dv", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Suggestions for camp mattress for a bad back? What are the most comfortable camp pads/mattresses you guys have found? I was in an accident years ago, and love to camp but can't go for more than a day or two because I can't sleep/end up in too much pain from sleeping on air mattresses and cots. The full intex air mattress was horrible, and I can't say my Coleman cot with pad was much better (even when I added an inch thick yoga mat on top). Have any back-pain friends found a mattress or pad that gives a good night sleep without pain?", "c_root_id_A": "i0gbo2y", "c_root_id_B": "i0f18wk", "created_at_utc_A": 1647143851, "created_at_utc_B": 1647120762, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Others pointed you to the hammock sub (which I also didn't know about), so I'll give you some stuff to think about for hammocking. The most important thing for your situation is to understand the basic lays - traditional or diagonal. Brazilian-style hammocks are wider and allow for you to lay at a diagonal, which is naturally flatter. However, this isn't ideal if you tend to sleep on your side; if you normally sleep on your back and relatively straight, this is ideal, though. A few basic designs dominate the hammock camping world: gathered end traditional; gathered end Brazilian; bridge; bathtub. The Brazilian style is much wider so you can lay diagonally rather than inline with the ropes. It's great if you sleep flat on your back and don't turn. However, side sleeping negates the benefit. Bathtub style is effectively a solid bridge (like a backyard hammock) but with a lowered floor - like a bathtub. Putting a relatively solid air mattress in one of these is about as perfect as it gets for those who must be very flat. They're stable, but not light. Of course all of this depends on exactly how you need to sleep. See if you can borrow or rent a few different styles and try them out in your backyard or home before getting out on a trip where you could be miserable. The air mattress likely to be a necessity for you no matter what. I use a gathered-end style with a Klymit V Hammock pad, and while it's not the lightest, it is the most comfortable for my back (I can't lay perfectly flat).", "human_ref_B": "Sometimes I use an exercise mat. Not the thin \"yoga mat\" kind. It's a large folding exercise mattress about 2\" thick. When folded up it forms 3 squares and has carrying handles.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 23089.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "tcr5dv", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Suggestions for camp mattress for a bad back? What are the most comfortable camp pads/mattresses you guys have found? I was in an accident years ago, and love to camp but can't go for more than a day or two because I can't sleep/end up in too much pain from sleeping on air mattresses and cots. The full intex air mattress was horrible, and I can't say my Coleman cot with pad was much better (even when I added an inch thick yoga mat on top). Have any back-pain friends found a mattress or pad that gives a good night sleep without pain?", "c_root_id_A": "i0gbo2y", "c_root_id_B": "i0ga74v", "created_at_utc_A": 1647143851, "created_at_utc_B": 1647143038, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Others pointed you to the hammock sub (which I also didn't know about), so I'll give you some stuff to think about for hammocking. The most important thing for your situation is to understand the basic lays - traditional or diagonal. Brazilian-style hammocks are wider and allow for you to lay at a diagonal, which is naturally flatter. However, this isn't ideal if you tend to sleep on your side; if you normally sleep on your back and relatively straight, this is ideal, though. A few basic designs dominate the hammock camping world: gathered end traditional; gathered end Brazilian; bridge; bathtub. The Brazilian style is much wider so you can lay diagonally rather than inline with the ropes. It's great if you sleep flat on your back and don't turn. However, side sleeping negates the benefit. Bathtub style is effectively a solid bridge (like a backyard hammock) but with a lowered floor - like a bathtub. Putting a relatively solid air mattress in one of these is about as perfect as it gets for those who must be very flat. They're stable, but not light. Of course all of this depends on exactly how you need to sleep. See if you can borrow or rent a few different styles and try them out in your backyard or home before getting out on a trip where you could be miserable. The air mattress likely to be a necessity for you no matter what. I use a gathered-end style with a Klymit V Hammock pad, and while it's not the lightest, it is the most comfortable for my back (I can't lay perfectly flat).", "human_ref_B": "Amen.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 813.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "ym74bw", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "One night tent camping spots in Ohio? Looking for somewhere to tent camp tomorrow 11/5-11/6. All the state parks I\u2019m looking at require a 2 night stay. I\u2019m in the Cleveland area and willing to travel up to 3 hours. Any ideas? TIA!", "c_root_id_A": "iv4c0k9", "c_root_id_B": "iv2ajb6", "created_at_utc_A": 1667623677, "created_at_utc_B": 1667588891, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I live in Cleveland, I got you. 3 hours away is Lamping Homestead in Wayne national forest. Down 77 until you hit Caldwell then 50 min east thru the boons. It is my secret spot in Ohio. Nobody will be there and it is $10 in a lock box to camp there. On a weekday nobody will be there, and probably nobody this late in the year.", "human_ref_B": "Geauga park district Big creek park Tent only I\u2019m afraid", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 34786.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "ym74bw", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "One night tent camping spots in Ohio? Looking for somewhere to tent camp tomorrow 11/5-11/6. All the state parks I\u2019m looking at require a 2 night stay. I\u2019m in the Cleveland area and willing to travel up to 3 hours. Any ideas? TIA!", "c_root_id_A": "iv2kw1z", "c_root_id_B": "iv4c0k9", "created_at_utc_A": 1667593056, "created_at_utc_B": 1667623677, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "Couple koa's close", "human_ref_B": "I live in Cleveland, I got you. 3 hours away is Lamping Homestead in Wayne national forest. Down 77 until you hit Caldwell then 50 min east thru the boons. It is my secret spot in Ohio. Nobody will be there and it is $10 in a lock box to camp there. On a weekday nobody will be there, and probably nobody this late in the year.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 30621.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "ym74bw", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "One night tent camping spots in Ohio? Looking for somewhere to tent camp tomorrow 11/5-11/6. All the state parks I\u2019m looking at require a 2 night stay. I\u2019m in the Cleveland area and willing to travel up to 3 hours. Any ideas? TIA!", "c_root_id_A": "iv4c0k9", "c_root_id_B": "iv2y7hn", "created_at_utc_A": 1667623677, "created_at_utc_B": 1667598628, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I live in Cleveland, I got you. 3 hours away is Lamping Homestead in Wayne national forest. Down 77 until you hit Caldwell then 50 min east thru the boons. It is my secret spot in Ohio. Nobody will be there and it is $10 in a lock box to camp there. On a weekday nobody will be there, and probably nobody this late in the year.", "human_ref_B": "How far is Wayne NF from you?", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 25049.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "ym74bw", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "One night tent camping spots in Ohio? Looking for somewhere to tent camp tomorrow 11/5-11/6. All the state parks I\u2019m looking at require a 2 night stay. I\u2019m in the Cleveland area and willing to travel up to 3 hours. Any ideas? TIA!", "c_root_id_A": "iv4c0k9", "c_root_id_B": "iv3yy4s", "created_at_utc_A": 1667623677, "created_at_utc_B": 1667616049, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I live in Cleveland, I got you. 3 hours away is Lamping Homestead in Wayne national forest. Down 77 until you hit Caldwell then 50 min east thru the boons. It is my secret spot in Ohio. Nobody will be there and it is $10 in a lock box to camp there. On a weekday nobody will be there, and probably nobody this late in the year.", "human_ref_B": "Well, if cost is not an object, you could book two nights and just leave after one.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 7628.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "yjpism", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.86, "history": "Lake Michigan waterfront camping? Hi all! I love waves and water. I took my kids to Illinois state beach this summer, but the campsite is about a quarter mile from the waterfront. I'd like to find someplace I can camp on the waterfront and hear the waves/go in the water while I'm relaxing. Ideally on the west, south, or southeast shore of Lake Michigan. I figured I'd get a head start on planning for next summer, so if it needs a reservation, I'd have time. Anybody know of a site that fits the bill?", "c_root_id_A": "iupbkf4", "c_root_id_B": "iup46jq", "created_at_utc_A": 1667350950, "created_at_utc_B": 1667347804, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Wisconsin's Kohler Andrae State Park's campground isn't ON the shore (very rare if not impossible to find given the nature of Lake Michigan's shoreline), but it is close and certainly close enough to hear the lake. It would also help to know more about the nature of the camping you're looking for--parking lot with trees, walk/wagon in, backpack in, and any other relevant info about your wants/needs.", "human_ref_B": "Wilderness state park tent only sites\u2026", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 3146.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "yjpism", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.86, "history": "Lake Michigan waterfront camping? Hi all! I love waves and water. I took my kids to Illinois state beach this summer, but the campsite is about a quarter mile from the waterfront. I'd like to find someplace I can camp on the waterfront and hear the waves/go in the water while I'm relaxing. Ideally on the west, south, or southeast shore of Lake Michigan. I figured I'd get a head start on planning for next summer, so if it needs a reservation, I'd have time. Anybody know of a site that fits the bill?", "c_root_id_A": "iup46jq", "c_root_id_B": "iurs8bz", "created_at_utc_A": 1667347804, "created_at_utc_B": 1667403340, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "Wilderness state park tent only sites\u2026", "human_ref_B": "I know a great place on the north shore with campsites that are just over the dunes from the lake! It's the Lake Michigan Campground in Hiawatha NF. You can hear trucks driving by on 2 all night, though. Not sure if some sites are more protected from that side than others or not. It is also a great proximity to a lot of the attractions near the bridge.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 55536.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "yjpism", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.86, "history": "Lake Michigan waterfront camping? Hi all! I love waves and water. I took my kids to Illinois state beach this summer, but the campsite is about a quarter mile from the waterfront. I'd like to find someplace I can camp on the waterfront and hear the waves/go in the water while I'm relaxing. Ideally on the west, south, or southeast shore of Lake Michigan. I figured I'd get a head start on planning for next summer, so if it needs a reservation, I'd have time. Anybody know of a site that fits the bill?", "c_root_id_A": "iurs8bz", "c_root_id_B": "iupmqox", "created_at_utc_A": 1667403340, "created_at_utc_B": 1667355826, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I know a great place on the north shore with campsites that are just over the dunes from the lake! It's the Lake Michigan Campground in Hiawatha NF. You can hear trucks driving by on 2 all night, though. Not sure if some sites are more protected from that side than others or not. It is also a great proximity to a lot of the attractions near the bridge.", "human_ref_B": "Rock island state park", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 47514.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "kqko3c", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Advice needed on how to convince my fianc\u00e9 we should go camping more often. I (F28) have always loved camping since I was kid and continued to go camping (tent camping, specifically) into my teens and twenties. I\u2019d camp at festivals or at camp grounds or parks. My fianc\u00e9 (M27) has never camped a day in his life. He\u2019s the type that\u2019d rather have a cozy bed where he can control the temperature setting. But we both love to travel, explore nature, see new places and meet new friends. Does anyone have advice for me to try to get him more interested in camping? Or suggestions on how I could make the camping experience more comfortable for him?", "c_root_id_A": "gi4go51", "c_root_id_B": "gi4ij3u", "created_at_utc_A": 1609804426, "created_at_utc_B": 1609805381, "score_A": 5, "score_B": 8, "human_ref_A": "Ask for a camping trip for your birthday. Research campgrounds with super clean bath houses.", "human_ref_B": "So, I had a s/o that wasn\u2019t much into camping and I\u2019ll share what worked for me to get her to actually WANT to go. I asked her to come with me and keep an open mind one time and said if she didn\u2019t like it I wouldn\u2019t bug her anymore. I planned the whole weekend out throughly. Where we would stay, where we would hike, what music we would listen to, what we would eat, etc. I catered to her wants. I made sure the weather was going to be nice and I made sure the tent was going to be as comfortable as a tent could be. I got up early and made coffee for her to have in bed, made breakfast, and played her favorite music. We then went on an awesome hike and explored around. After, since we were on a pond we swam and had some drinks and I made steak for dinner. Let me say, this requires a lot more planning than I, as a fly by night type of guy, would usually do but she raved about the weekend. I kind of lucked out by having a great spot and great weather. But this one great experience made her so much more open to going. And she appreciates that trip even more now that she sees how much work it was to get things just right for her. She\u2019s even come to enjoy the times things don\u2019t go right and you end camping in the rain for 2 days straight. She just needed a nudge in the right direction. I hope some of this info is helpful to you! Good luck!", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 955.0, "score_ratio": 1.6, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "aye19z", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.88, "history": "Tips/Advice on bringing my dog camping I haven\u2019t camped since I got my dog a couple years ago and I\u2019d like to take him sometime soon. He\u2019s a staffordshire terrier, about 2 years old. Any advice on bringing your dog camping? What to bring, what I would potentially forget/neglect, anything helps! Thanks!", "c_root_id_A": "ei0fi3d", "c_root_id_B": "ei0dnt0", "created_at_utc_A": 1551983560, "created_at_utc_B": 1551982342, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "-Don\u2019t hesitate to get booties BEFORE the trip and let doggo get used to them depending on terrain you\u2019ll be in (IE, deserts or areas with lots of old volcanic activity). -A harness is usually best in case you have to haul puppers up out of a spot. Even better, getting a pack harness and make puppers carry their own extra water and food, first-aid, booties, etc for hikes. -I\u2019ve found a 6\u2019 - 8\u2019 leash with a short-leash handle on it works great if/ when ya\u2019ll get in small spot or just need to hold the dog close at hand -Putting a simple climbing carabiner on your belt and attaching the leash loop to that is a great way for more hands free hiking. Make sure belt is suitable for that level of strain. Learn from my mistake. >__< -Know animal first aid. At the least, research a bit on the internet so as when things come up, you\u2019re not staring at your injured doggo wondering what to do. -As stated, EXTRA food, water, towels, climate appropriate bedding, and even climate appropriate clothing (rain guards? Winter jackets? Goggles? Sun protection?) Whatever apparel you decide to get, make sure to get it as far ahead of your trip and get the pooch used to wearing it before and not during. Ill fitting apparel/ harness or an animal that\u2019s never worn booties until minutes before first hike will ruin a trip very quickly. I had a Labrador I would take hiking, camping, backpacking, and even light off-roading (wound up bolting a plastic crate carrier to cargo area of the Jeep and padding lower half). I\u2019ve had to haul her up small cliff sides, bandage cactus wounds and feet, run around the desert, \u201cchase\u201d jackrabbits, climb rocks, sleep outside, stings and bites (nothing poisonous, thank the F\u2019n gods). It\u2019s an amazing and wonderful experience for all and wouldn\u2019t trade any of the extra work for a anything! GOOD LUCK AND BE SAFE!!!", "human_ref_B": "Ear plugs. My dog kept me up all night barking at squirrels the first time (and so far only time) we went camping. It was a nuisance", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 1218.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "t0tdl6", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.77, "history": "Will I be miserable if I go camping in March without a winter sleeping bag? Okay so I last minute decided to go camping, and I\u2019m planning on car camping. The issue is that I only have a sleeping bag rated to 50 degrees. If I were to sleep on an insulated pad with my sleeping bag and a bunch of blankets in my car, would I be okay in 40ish degree weather?", "c_root_id_A": "hyc168z", "c_root_id_B": "hyc11c7", "created_at_utc_A": 1645759093, "created_at_utc_B": 1645759027, "score_A": 15, "score_B": 3, "human_ref_A": "Bunch of blankets with a 50 degree bag in 40.. you'll be just fine. Just don't forget the bunch of blankets. Enjoy the experience!", "human_ref_B": "You would be more comfortable in a tent over inside a car. True a comforter and a fleece for over top your bag and the insulated power for underneath", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 66.0, "score_ratio": 5.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "t0tdl6", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.77, "history": "Will I be miserable if I go camping in March without a winter sleeping bag? Okay so I last minute decided to go camping, and I\u2019m planning on car camping. The issue is that I only have a sleeping bag rated to 50 degrees. If I were to sleep on an insulated pad with my sleeping bag and a bunch of blankets in my car, would I be okay in 40ish degree weather?", "c_root_id_A": "hyc0qoc", "c_root_id_B": "hyc168z", "created_at_utc_A": 1645758889, "created_at_utc_B": 1645759093, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 15, "human_ref_A": "Nope", "human_ref_B": "Bunch of blankets with a 50 degree bag in 40.. you'll be just fine. Just don't forget the bunch of blankets. Enjoy the experience!", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 204.0, "score_ratio": 15.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "t0tdl6", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.77, "history": "Will I be miserable if I go camping in March without a winter sleeping bag? Okay so I last minute decided to go camping, and I\u2019m planning on car camping. The issue is that I only have a sleeping bag rated to 50 degrees. If I were to sleep on an insulated pad with my sleeping bag and a bunch of blankets in my car, would I be okay in 40ish degree weather?", "c_root_id_A": "hyc168z", "c_root_id_B": "hyc0qyq", "created_at_utc_A": 1645759093, "created_at_utc_B": 1645758893, "score_A": 15, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Bunch of blankets with a 50 degree bag in 40.. you'll be just fine. Just don't forget the bunch of blankets. Enjoy the experience!", "human_ref_B": "I would bring a blanket from home on top of your bag, and/or wear layers to bed. You\u2019ll be fine.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 200.0, "score_ratio": 15.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "t0tdl6", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.77, "history": "Will I be miserable if I go camping in March without a winter sleeping bag? Okay so I last minute decided to go camping, and I\u2019m planning on car camping. The issue is that I only have a sleeping bag rated to 50 degrees. If I were to sleep on an insulated pad with my sleeping bag and a bunch of blankets in my car, would I be okay in 40ish degree weather?", "c_root_id_A": "hyc11c7", "c_root_id_B": "hyc43gr", "created_at_utc_A": 1645759027, "created_at_utc_B": 1645760448, "score_A": 3, "score_B": 9, "human_ref_A": "You would be more comfortable in a tent over inside a car. True a comforter and a fleece for over top your bag and the insulated power for underneath", "human_ref_B": "Remember, the temperature rating is for survival not for comfort. For comfort you should always go twenty degrees less than the temperature ie: for camping in 40 degrees Fahrenheit, you would want a 20 degree rated sleeping bag. That being said, you should be fine with an insulated pad and a bunch of blankets but keep in mind cars do get very cold at night, you might want to buy some heat packs just in case. They\u2019re like a dollar a piece at most camping stores.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 1421.0, "score_ratio": 3.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "t0tdl6", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.77, "history": "Will I be miserable if I go camping in March without a winter sleeping bag? Okay so I last minute decided to go camping, and I\u2019m planning on car camping. The issue is that I only have a sleeping bag rated to 50 degrees. If I were to sleep on an insulated pad with my sleeping bag and a bunch of blankets in my car, would I be okay in 40ish degree weather?", "c_root_id_A": "hyc29d2", "c_root_id_B": "hyc43gr", "created_at_utc_A": 1645759593, "created_at_utc_B": 1645760448, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 9, "human_ref_A": "I did this the other day and ONLY my feet were cold but it was just enough to make me escape to my car at 3am. I\u2019d say no but it\u2019s up to you. Also depends on the quality of blankets.", "human_ref_B": "Remember, the temperature rating is for survival not for comfort. For comfort you should always go twenty degrees less than the temperature ie: for camping in 40 degrees Fahrenheit, you would want a 20 degree rated sleeping bag. That being said, you should be fine with an insulated pad and a bunch of blankets but keep in mind cars do get very cold at night, you might want to buy some heat packs just in case. They\u2019re like a dollar a piece at most camping stores.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 855.0, "score_ratio": 4.5, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "t0tdl6", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.77, "history": "Will I be miserable if I go camping in March without a winter sleeping bag? Okay so I last minute decided to go camping, and I\u2019m planning on car camping. The issue is that I only have a sleeping bag rated to 50 degrees. If I were to sleep on an insulated pad with my sleeping bag and a bunch of blankets in my car, would I be okay in 40ish degree weather?", "c_root_id_A": "hyc3k0k", "c_root_id_B": "hyc43gr", "created_at_utc_A": 1645760193, "created_at_utc_B": 1645760448, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 9, "human_ref_A": "If you're a car camping with a bunch of blankets, a 50\u00b0 bag should work in those circumstances. Make sure that you remember the bunch of blankets though.", "human_ref_B": "Remember, the temperature rating is for survival not for comfort. For comfort you should always go twenty degrees less than the temperature ie: for camping in 40 degrees Fahrenheit, you would want a 20 degree rated sleeping bag. That being said, you should be fine with an insulated pad and a bunch of blankets but keep in mind cars do get very cold at night, you might want to buy some heat packs just in case. They\u2019re like a dollar a piece at most camping stores.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 255.0, "score_ratio": 4.5, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "t0tdl6", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.77, "history": "Will I be miserable if I go camping in March without a winter sleeping bag? Okay so I last minute decided to go camping, and I\u2019m planning on car camping. The issue is that I only have a sleeping bag rated to 50 degrees. If I were to sleep on an insulated pad with my sleeping bag and a bunch of blankets in my car, would I be okay in 40ish degree weather?", "c_root_id_A": "hyc0qoc", "c_root_id_B": "hyc43gr", "created_at_utc_A": 1645758889, "created_at_utc_B": 1645760448, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 9, "human_ref_A": "Nope", "human_ref_B": "Remember, the temperature rating is for survival not for comfort. For comfort you should always go twenty degrees less than the temperature ie: for camping in 40 degrees Fahrenheit, you would want a 20 degree rated sleeping bag. That being said, you should be fine with an insulated pad and a bunch of blankets but keep in mind cars do get very cold at night, you might want to buy some heat packs just in case. They\u2019re like a dollar a piece at most camping stores.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 1559.0, "score_ratio": 9.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "t0tdl6", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.77, "history": "Will I be miserable if I go camping in March without a winter sleeping bag? Okay so I last minute decided to go camping, and I\u2019m planning on car camping. The issue is that I only have a sleeping bag rated to 50 degrees. If I were to sleep on an insulated pad with my sleeping bag and a bunch of blankets in my car, would I be okay in 40ish degree weather?", "c_root_id_A": "hyc0qyq", "c_root_id_B": "hyc43gr", "created_at_utc_A": 1645758893, "created_at_utc_B": 1645760448, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 9, "human_ref_A": "I would bring a blanket from home on top of your bag, and/or wear layers to bed. You\u2019ll be fine.", "human_ref_B": "Remember, the temperature rating is for survival not for comfort. For comfort you should always go twenty degrees less than the temperature ie: for camping in 40 degrees Fahrenheit, you would want a 20 degree rated sleeping bag. That being said, you should be fine with an insulated pad and a bunch of blankets but keep in mind cars do get very cold at night, you might want to buy some heat packs just in case. They\u2019re like a dollar a piece at most camping stores.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 1555.0, "score_ratio": 9.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "t0tdl6", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.77, "history": "Will I be miserable if I go camping in March without a winter sleeping bag? Okay so I last minute decided to go camping, and I\u2019m planning on car camping. The issue is that I only have a sleeping bag rated to 50 degrees. If I were to sleep on an insulated pad with my sleeping bag and a bunch of blankets in my car, would I be okay in 40ish degree weather?", "c_root_id_A": "hyc0qoc", "c_root_id_B": "hyc11c7", "created_at_utc_A": 1645758889, "created_at_utc_B": 1645759027, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 3, "human_ref_A": "Nope", "human_ref_B": "You would be more comfortable in a tent over inside a car. True a comforter and a fleece for over top your bag and the insulated power for underneath", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 138.0, "score_ratio": 3.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "t0tdl6", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.77, "history": "Will I be miserable if I go camping in March without a winter sleeping bag? Okay so I last minute decided to go camping, and I\u2019m planning on car camping. The issue is that I only have a sleeping bag rated to 50 degrees. If I were to sleep on an insulated pad with my sleeping bag and a bunch of blankets in my car, would I be okay in 40ish degree weather?", "c_root_id_A": "hyc0qyq", "c_root_id_B": "hyc11c7", "created_at_utc_A": 1645758893, "created_at_utc_B": 1645759027, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 3, "human_ref_A": "I would bring a blanket from home on top of your bag, and/or wear layers to bed. You\u2019ll be fine.", "human_ref_B": "You would be more comfortable in a tent over inside a car. True a comforter and a fleece for over top your bag and the insulated power for underneath", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 134.0, "score_ratio": 3.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "t0tdl6", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.77, "history": "Will I be miserable if I go camping in March without a winter sleeping bag? Okay so I last minute decided to go camping, and I\u2019m planning on car camping. The issue is that I only have a sleeping bag rated to 50 degrees. If I were to sleep on an insulated pad with my sleeping bag and a bunch of blankets in my car, would I be okay in 40ish degree weather?", "c_root_id_A": "hyc29d2", "c_root_id_B": "hyc0qoc", "created_at_utc_A": 1645759593, "created_at_utc_B": 1645758889, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I did this the other day and ONLY my feet were cold but it was just enough to make me escape to my car at 3am. I\u2019d say no but it\u2019s up to you. Also depends on the quality of blankets.", "human_ref_B": "Nope", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 704.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "t0tdl6", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.77, "history": "Will I be miserable if I go camping in March without a winter sleeping bag? Okay so I last minute decided to go camping, and I\u2019m planning on car camping. The issue is that I only have a sleeping bag rated to 50 degrees. If I were to sleep on an insulated pad with my sleeping bag and a bunch of blankets in my car, would I be okay in 40ish degree weather?", "c_root_id_A": "hyc0qyq", "c_root_id_B": "hyc29d2", "created_at_utc_A": 1645758893, "created_at_utc_B": 1645759593, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "I would bring a blanket from home on top of your bag, and/or wear layers to bed. You\u2019ll be fine.", "human_ref_B": "I did this the other day and ONLY my feet were cold but it was just enough to make me escape to my car at 3am. I\u2019d say no but it\u2019s up to you. Also depends on the quality of blankets.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 700.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "t0tdl6", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.77, "history": "Will I be miserable if I go camping in March without a winter sleeping bag? Okay so I last minute decided to go camping, and I\u2019m planning on car camping. The issue is that I only have a sleeping bag rated to 50 degrees. If I were to sleep on an insulated pad with my sleeping bag and a bunch of blankets in my car, would I be okay in 40ish degree weather?", "c_root_id_A": "hyc0qoc", "c_root_id_B": "hyc3k0k", "created_at_utc_A": 1645758889, "created_at_utc_B": 1645760193, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "Nope", "human_ref_B": "If you're a car camping with a bunch of blankets, a 50\u00b0 bag should work in those circumstances. Make sure that you remember the bunch of blankets though.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 1304.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "t0tdl6", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.77, "history": "Will I be miserable if I go camping in March without a winter sleeping bag? Okay so I last minute decided to go camping, and I\u2019m planning on car camping. The issue is that I only have a sleeping bag rated to 50 degrees. If I were to sleep on an insulated pad with my sleeping bag and a bunch of blankets in my car, would I be okay in 40ish degree weather?", "c_root_id_A": "hyc3k0k", "c_root_id_B": "hyc0qyq", "created_at_utc_A": 1645760193, "created_at_utc_B": 1645758893, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "If you're a car camping with a bunch of blankets, a 50\u00b0 bag should work in those circumstances. Make sure that you remember the bunch of blankets though.", "human_ref_B": "I would bring a blanket from home on top of your bag, and/or wear layers to bed. You\u2019ll be fine.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 1300.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "t0tdl6", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.77, "history": "Will I be miserable if I go camping in March without a winter sleeping bag? Okay so I last minute decided to go camping, and I\u2019m planning on car camping. The issue is that I only have a sleeping bag rated to 50 degrees. If I were to sleep on an insulated pad with my sleeping bag and a bunch of blankets in my car, would I be okay in 40ish degree weather?", "c_root_id_A": "hyceeiu", "c_root_id_B": "hyd4dlf", "created_at_utc_A": 1645765690, "created_at_utc_B": 1645784187, "score_A": 0, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "It depends on how damp the air is. If the air is damp your going to feel colder than what the actually temp is. Blankets will not do. The material they are made of does not repel moisture,they absorb it. I've been camping for 20 plus years and I won't even go camping in May without a winter sleeping bag", "human_ref_B": "You can try it at home, before going camping.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 18497.0, "score_ratio": 1000.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "t0tdl6", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.77, "history": "Will I be miserable if I go camping in March without a winter sleeping bag? Okay so I last minute decided to go camping, and I\u2019m planning on car camping. The issue is that I only have a sleeping bag rated to 50 degrees. If I were to sleep on an insulated pad with my sleeping bag and a bunch of blankets in my car, would I be okay in 40ish degree weather?", "c_root_id_A": "hyd4dlf", "c_root_id_B": "hycixtk", "created_at_utc_A": 1645784187, "created_at_utc_B": 1645768317, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 0, "human_ref_A": "You can try it at home, before going camping.", "human_ref_B": "Sounds fun", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 15870.0, "score_ratio": 1000.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "t0tdl6", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.77, "history": "Will I be miserable if I go camping in March without a winter sleeping bag? Okay so I last minute decided to go camping, and I\u2019m planning on car camping. The issue is that I only have a sleeping bag rated to 50 degrees. If I were to sleep on an insulated pad with my sleeping bag and a bunch of blankets in my car, would I be okay in 40ish degree weather?", "c_root_id_A": "hyceeiu", "c_root_id_B": "hyespcj", "created_at_utc_A": 1645765690, "created_at_utc_B": 1645813138, "score_A": 0, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "It depends on how damp the air is. If the air is damp your going to feel colder than what the actually temp is. Blankets will not do. The material they are made of does not repel moisture,they absorb it. I've been camping for 20 plus years and I won't even go camping in May without a winter sleeping bag", "human_ref_B": "Any nest will do. Lots of blankets, and another warm body are good help.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 47448.0, "score_ratio": 1000.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "t0tdl6", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.77, "history": "Will I be miserable if I go camping in March without a winter sleeping bag? Okay so I last minute decided to go camping, and I\u2019m planning on car camping. The issue is that I only have a sleeping bag rated to 50 degrees. If I were to sleep on an insulated pad with my sleeping bag and a bunch of blankets in my car, would I be okay in 40ish degree weather?", "c_root_id_A": "hyceeiu", "c_root_id_B": "hyfk07k", "created_at_utc_A": 1645765690, "created_at_utc_B": 1645823721, "score_A": 0, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "It depends on how damp the air is. If the air is damp your going to feel colder than what the actually temp is. Blankets will not do. The material they are made of does not repel moisture,they absorb it. I've been camping for 20 plus years and I won't even go camping in May without a winter sleeping bag", "human_ref_B": "What you might not have with a plain sleeping bag, is this winterized feature around the opening in the sleeping bag. In addition to there typically being padding around the shoulder/neck on the inside, the opening can typically be closed with an elastic string. I don't think sleeping bags for summer time has this feature. That means, without a way to tighten the opening around your head, cold air will likely fill your sleeping bag, and any stored heat will vent out, which is bad.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 58031.0, "score_ratio": 1000.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "t0tdl6", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.77, "history": "Will I be miserable if I go camping in March without a winter sleeping bag? Okay so I last minute decided to go camping, and I\u2019m planning on car camping. The issue is that I only have a sleeping bag rated to 50 degrees. If I were to sleep on an insulated pad with my sleeping bag and a bunch of blankets in my car, would I be okay in 40ish degree weather?", "c_root_id_A": "hyceeiu", "c_root_id_B": "hyg9xv6", "created_at_utc_A": 1645765690, "created_at_utc_B": 1645834501, "score_A": 0, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "It depends on how damp the air is. If the air is damp your going to feel colder than what the actually temp is. Blankets will not do. The material they are made of does not repel moisture,they absorb it. I've been camping for 20 plus years and I won't even go camping in May without a winter sleeping bag", "human_ref_B": "You can also either buy a bag liner or wrap up in a regular cotton sheet", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 68811.0, "score_ratio": 1000.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "t0tdl6", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.77, "history": "Will I be miserable if I go camping in March without a winter sleeping bag? Okay so I last minute decided to go camping, and I\u2019m planning on car camping. The issue is that I only have a sleeping bag rated to 50 degrees. If I were to sleep on an insulated pad with my sleeping bag and a bunch of blankets in my car, would I be okay in 40ish degree weather?", "c_root_id_A": "hyipytr", "c_root_id_B": "hyceeiu", "created_at_utc_A": 1645887370, "created_at_utc_B": 1645765690, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 0, "human_ref_A": "I add a small down travel throw inside my bag when I want to pump up warmth just a bit.", "human_ref_B": "It depends on how damp the air is. If the air is damp your going to feel colder than what the actually temp is. Blankets will not do. The material they are made of does not repel moisture,they absorb it. I've been camping for 20 plus years and I won't even go camping in May without a winter sleeping bag", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 121680.0, "score_ratio": 1000.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "t0tdl6", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.77, "history": "Will I be miserable if I go camping in March without a winter sleeping bag? Okay so I last minute decided to go camping, and I\u2019m planning on car camping. The issue is that I only have a sleeping bag rated to 50 degrees. If I were to sleep on an insulated pad with my sleeping bag and a bunch of blankets in my car, would I be okay in 40ish degree weather?", "c_root_id_A": "hycixtk", "c_root_id_B": "hyespcj", "created_at_utc_A": 1645768317, "created_at_utc_B": 1645813138, "score_A": 0, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Sounds fun", "human_ref_B": "Any nest will do. Lots of blankets, and another warm body are good help.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 44821.0, "score_ratio": 1000.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "t0tdl6", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.77, "history": "Will I be miserable if I go camping in March without a winter sleeping bag? Okay so I last minute decided to go camping, and I\u2019m planning on car camping. The issue is that I only have a sleeping bag rated to 50 degrees. If I were to sleep on an insulated pad with my sleeping bag and a bunch of blankets in my car, would I be okay in 40ish degree weather?", "c_root_id_A": "hycixtk", "c_root_id_B": "hyfk07k", "created_at_utc_A": 1645768317, "created_at_utc_B": 1645823721, "score_A": 0, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Sounds fun", "human_ref_B": "What you might not have with a plain sleeping bag, is this winterized feature around the opening in the sleeping bag. In addition to there typically being padding around the shoulder/neck on the inside, the opening can typically be closed with an elastic string. I don't think sleeping bags for summer time has this feature. That means, without a way to tighten the opening around your head, cold air will likely fill your sleeping bag, and any stored heat will vent out, which is bad.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 55404.0, "score_ratio": 1000.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "t0tdl6", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.77, "history": "Will I be miserable if I go camping in March without a winter sleeping bag? Okay so I last minute decided to go camping, and I\u2019m planning on car camping. The issue is that I only have a sleeping bag rated to 50 degrees. If I were to sleep on an insulated pad with my sleeping bag and a bunch of blankets in my car, would I be okay in 40ish degree weather?", "c_root_id_A": "hyg9xv6", "c_root_id_B": "hycixtk", "created_at_utc_A": 1645834501, "created_at_utc_B": 1645768317, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 0, "human_ref_A": "You can also either buy a bag liner or wrap up in a regular cotton sheet", "human_ref_B": "Sounds fun", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 66184.0, "score_ratio": 1000.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "t0tdl6", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.77, "history": "Will I be miserable if I go camping in March without a winter sleeping bag? Okay so I last minute decided to go camping, and I\u2019m planning on car camping. The issue is that I only have a sleeping bag rated to 50 degrees. If I were to sleep on an insulated pad with my sleeping bag and a bunch of blankets in my car, would I be okay in 40ish degree weather?", "c_root_id_A": "hyipytr", "c_root_id_B": "hycixtk", "created_at_utc_A": 1645887370, "created_at_utc_B": 1645768317, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 0, "human_ref_A": "I add a small down travel throw inside my bag when I want to pump up warmth just a bit.", "human_ref_B": "Sounds fun", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 119053.0, "score_ratio": 1000.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "ofbd2a", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Does it make sense to be scared of BLACK BEARS when camping on the Appalachian Trail in NC? If I\u2019m keeping all scented things away from my tent when I sleep, and I use a bear bell, should I ever be worried abt bears? Last time I went camping here a few days ago I could hear bears calling all around me all night so since then I\u2019ve been a bit more concerned abt this. Thanks for the advice yall.", "c_root_id_A": "h4bi7e3", "c_root_id_B": "h4bjkfk", "created_at_utc_A": 1625631118, "created_at_utc_B": 1625632008, "score_A": 5, "score_B": 9, "human_ref_A": "I\u2019ve seen little evidence bear bells do much. Some report the bells actually attract bears. I carry bear spray when in bear country.", "human_ref_B": "IMO, it doesn't make sense to be scared of Black Bears at all. They're basically big forest dogs. Or, in the case of snooping around campsites at night, big raccoons. Their temperament is generally unaggressive and they're more likely to run away from humans than attack them (with some exceptions, such as females protecting cubs). I know words are little consolation when you're actually in the woods near actual bears but I worry more about mice chewing through my pack than bears chewing through my face.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 890.0, "score_ratio": 1.8, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "ofbd2a", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Does it make sense to be scared of BLACK BEARS when camping on the Appalachian Trail in NC? If I\u2019m keeping all scented things away from my tent when I sleep, and I use a bear bell, should I ever be worried abt bears? Last time I went camping here a few days ago I could hear bears calling all around me all night so since then I\u2019ve been a bit more concerned abt this. Thanks for the advice yall.", "c_root_id_A": "h4bjkfk", "c_root_id_B": "h4bidcn", "created_at_utc_A": 1625632008, "created_at_utc_B": 1625631225, "score_A": 9, "score_B": 3, "human_ref_A": "IMO, it doesn't make sense to be scared of Black Bears at all. They're basically big forest dogs. Or, in the case of snooping around campsites at night, big raccoons. Their temperament is generally unaggressive and they're more likely to run away from humans than attack them (with some exceptions, such as females protecting cubs). I know words are little consolation when you're actually in the woods near actual bears but I worry more about mice chewing through my pack than bears chewing through my face.", "human_ref_B": "If you are properly storing your food and scented things away from your tent, I wouldn\u2019t be worried. You can also get beer spray, that would give you some peace of mind. On a side note: I would scrap the bear bell. In most places I\u2019ve hiked, it is thought to have the opposite effect of what you want.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 783.0, "score_ratio": 3.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "ofbd2a", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Does it make sense to be scared of BLACK BEARS when camping on the Appalachian Trail in NC? If I\u2019m keeping all scented things away from my tent when I sleep, and I use a bear bell, should I ever be worried abt bears? Last time I went camping here a few days ago I could hear bears calling all around me all night so since then I\u2019ve been a bit more concerned abt this. Thanks for the advice yall.", "c_root_id_A": "h4bjkfk", "c_root_id_B": "h4bj36b", "created_at_utc_A": 1625632008, "created_at_utc_B": 1625631691, "score_A": 9, "score_B": 3, "human_ref_A": "IMO, it doesn't make sense to be scared of Black Bears at all. They're basically big forest dogs. Or, in the case of snooping around campsites at night, big raccoons. Their temperament is generally unaggressive and they're more likely to run away from humans than attack them (with some exceptions, such as females protecting cubs). I know words are little consolation when you're actually in the woods near actual bears but I worry more about mice chewing through my pack than bears chewing through my face.", "human_ref_B": "Always bear spray and you're better off talking. Bear bells are a unique sound the bears might not associate with anything and just be curious to find. Talking the bears will associate with people and hopefully avoid. Either way always some good pepper spray. Just in case.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 317.0, "score_ratio": 3.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "ofbd2a", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Does it make sense to be scared of BLACK BEARS when camping on the Appalachian Trail in NC? If I\u2019m keeping all scented things away from my tent when I sleep, and I use a bear bell, should I ever be worried abt bears? Last time I went camping here a few days ago I could hear bears calling all around me all night so since then I\u2019ve been a bit more concerned abt this. Thanks for the advice yall.", "c_root_id_A": "h4bidcn", "c_root_id_B": "h4c1f4z", "created_at_utc_A": 1625631225, "created_at_utc_B": 1625646808, "score_A": 3, "score_B": 4, "human_ref_A": "If you are properly storing your food and scented things away from your tent, I wouldn\u2019t be worried. You can also get beer spray, that would give you some peace of mind. On a side note: I would scrap the bear bell. In most places I\u2019ve hiked, it is thought to have the opposite effect of what you want.", "human_ref_B": "All the black bears I've encountered here in Oregon, and I've encountered many, ran away as soon as they noticed me. I saw a black bear in Colorado that didn't care about me being around at all, it just ignored all us humans (in cars). It was in a national park and clearly used to humans. It's cubs ran up a tree and then immediately came down and ran off to catch up with mom, who just walked slowly through the field and up into the brush on the hill. It was also by far the biggest bear I've ever seen and much lighter colored than the black bears I've seen in Oregon. It probably would have been a little scary if I'd been hiking and ran into that bear but all the ones I encountered in Oregon while hiking were not scary at all.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 15583.0, "score_ratio": 1.3333333333, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "ofbd2a", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Does it make sense to be scared of BLACK BEARS when camping on the Appalachian Trail in NC? If I\u2019m keeping all scented things away from my tent when I sleep, and I use a bear bell, should I ever be worried abt bears? Last time I went camping here a few days ago I could hear bears calling all around me all night so since then I\u2019ve been a bit more concerned abt this. Thanks for the advice yall.", "c_root_id_A": "h4bj36b", "c_root_id_B": "h4c1f4z", "created_at_utc_A": 1625631691, "created_at_utc_B": 1625646808, "score_A": 3, "score_B": 4, "human_ref_A": "Always bear spray and you're better off talking. Bear bells are a unique sound the bears might not associate with anything and just be curious to find. Talking the bears will associate with people and hopefully avoid. Either way always some good pepper spray. Just in case.", "human_ref_B": "All the black bears I've encountered here in Oregon, and I've encountered many, ran away as soon as they noticed me. I saw a black bear in Colorado that didn't care about me being around at all, it just ignored all us humans (in cars). It was in a national park and clearly used to humans. It's cubs ran up a tree and then immediately came down and ran off to catch up with mom, who just walked slowly through the field and up into the brush on the hill. It was also by far the biggest bear I've ever seen and much lighter colored than the black bears I've seen in Oregon. It probably would have been a little scary if I'd been hiking and ran into that bear but all the ones I encountered in Oregon while hiking were not scary at all.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 15117.0, "score_ratio": 1.3333333333, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "ofbd2a", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Does it make sense to be scared of BLACK BEARS when camping on the Appalachian Trail in NC? If I\u2019m keeping all scented things away from my tent when I sleep, and I use a bear bell, should I ever be worried abt bears? Last time I went camping here a few days ago I could hear bears calling all around me all night so since then I\u2019ve been a bit more concerned abt this. Thanks for the advice yall.", "c_root_id_A": "h4c1f4z", "c_root_id_B": "h4bn15s", "created_at_utc_A": 1625646808, "created_at_utc_B": 1625634407, "score_A": 4, "score_B": 3, "human_ref_A": "All the black bears I've encountered here in Oregon, and I've encountered many, ran away as soon as they noticed me. I saw a black bear in Colorado that didn't care about me being around at all, it just ignored all us humans (in cars). It was in a national park and clearly used to humans. It's cubs ran up a tree and then immediately came down and ran off to catch up with mom, who just walked slowly through the field and up into the brush on the hill. It was also by far the biggest bear I've ever seen and much lighter colored than the black bears I've seen in Oregon. It probably would have been a little scary if I'd been hiking and ran into that bear but all the ones I encountered in Oregon while hiking were not scary at all.", "human_ref_B": "I don\u2019t worry about black bear. I take the necessary precaution and properly store all food then I sleep well. I\u2019ve had a pesky bear stalk our camp, run away with my husbands boots and try to get into the tent. Finally, I ran at the bear screaming like a crazy person and throwing rocks near him. It finally scared him away and he didn\u2019t come back. They are somewhat lazy just looking for an easy meal.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 12401.0, "score_ratio": 1.3333333333, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "ofbd2a", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Does it make sense to be scared of BLACK BEARS when camping on the Appalachian Trail in NC? If I\u2019m keeping all scented things away from my tent when I sleep, and I use a bear bell, should I ever be worried abt bears? Last time I went camping here a few days ago I could hear bears calling all around me all night so since then I\u2019ve been a bit more concerned abt this. Thanks for the advice yall.", "c_root_id_A": "h4bkrsa", "c_root_id_B": "h4c1f4z", "created_at_utc_A": 1625632823, "created_at_utc_B": 1625646808, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 4, "human_ref_A": "There was a mountain biker? Who just just killed in Colorado this past Saturday. Always respect a bear and be ready to defend yourself.", "human_ref_B": "All the black bears I've encountered here in Oregon, and I've encountered many, ran away as soon as they noticed me. I saw a black bear in Colorado that didn't care about me being around at all, it just ignored all us humans (in cars). It was in a national park and clearly used to humans. It's cubs ran up a tree and then immediately came down and ran off to catch up with mom, who just walked slowly through the field and up into the brush on the hill. It was also by far the biggest bear I've ever seen and much lighter colored than the black bears I've seen in Oregon. It probably would have been a little scary if I'd been hiking and ran into that bear but all the ones I encountered in Oregon while hiking were not scary at all.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 13985.0, "score_ratio": 4.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "ofbd2a", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 1.0, "history": "Does it make sense to be scared of BLACK BEARS when camping on the Appalachian Trail in NC? If I\u2019m keeping all scented things away from my tent when I sleep, and I use a bear bell, should I ever be worried abt bears? Last time I went camping here a few days ago I could hear bears calling all around me all night so since then I\u2019ve been a bit more concerned abt this. Thanks for the advice yall.", "c_root_id_A": "h4bn15s", "c_root_id_B": "h4bkrsa", "created_at_utc_A": 1625634407, "created_at_utc_B": 1625632823, "score_A": 3, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "I don\u2019t worry about black bear. I take the necessary precaution and properly store all food then I sleep well. I\u2019ve had a pesky bear stalk our camp, run away with my husbands boots and try to get into the tent. Finally, I ran at the bear screaming like a crazy person and throwing rocks near him. It finally scared him away and he didn\u2019t come back. They are somewhat lazy just looking for an easy meal.", "human_ref_B": "There was a mountain biker? Who just just killed in Colorado this past Saturday. Always respect a bear and be ready to defend yourself.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 1584.0, "score_ratio": 3.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "mhm6f9", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.94, "history": "How did you find people to go camping with? This is me basically admitting to having no friends with the same interests. :|", "c_root_id_A": "gszo51a", "c_root_id_B": "gszokoq", "created_at_utc_A": 1617246761, "created_at_utc_B": 1617247019, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 13, "human_ref_A": "Craigslist", "human_ref_B": "Nothing wrong with camping alone.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 258.0, "score_ratio": 6.5, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "mhm6f9", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.94, "history": "How did you find people to go camping with? This is me basically admitting to having no friends with the same interests. :|", "c_root_id_A": "gszotup", "c_root_id_B": "gszsp39", "created_at_utc_A": 1617247171, "created_at_utc_B": 1617249527, "score_A": 5, "score_B": 6, "human_ref_A": "Go camping alone, meet people there! But be safe. Many cities also have meetup groups and outdoor clubs you could join. Or find a hiking club, many hikers are also campers.", "human_ref_B": "I hike and camp alone a lot. It's a really unique experience and it's one I really love. I adore the peace and quiet and the introspection of camping by myself. Oftentimes, if I am backpacking/camping with someone, I'm taking them on their first trip to experience what it is like. I talk about how amazing my trips and adventures are and when showing them the pictures, people often express interest about wanting to try it themselves. While a trip plan is always important to do, when camping alone it is absolutely critical to leave an accurate trip plan with a trusted person who will call the proper authorities if you don't check in by the agreed upon time.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 2356.0, "score_ratio": 1.2, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "mhm6f9", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.94, "history": "How did you find people to go camping with? This is me basically admitting to having no friends with the same interests. :|", "c_root_id_A": "gszsp39", "c_root_id_B": "gszr9t3", "created_at_utc_A": 1617249527, "created_at_utc_B": 1617248631, "score_A": 6, "score_B": 3, "human_ref_A": "I hike and camp alone a lot. It's a really unique experience and it's one I really love. I adore the peace and quiet and the introspection of camping by myself. Oftentimes, if I am backpacking/camping with someone, I'm taking them on their first trip to experience what it is like. I talk about how amazing my trips and adventures are and when showing them the pictures, people often express interest about wanting to try it themselves. While a trip plan is always important to do, when camping alone it is absolutely critical to leave an accurate trip plan with a trusted person who will call the proper authorities if you don't check in by the agreed upon time.", "human_ref_B": "I\u2019ve just always tried to get my regular friends into it. Cool work folks has also been a solid source for me. The other thing I\u2019ve done is worked at outdoor stores. Several local bike shops and a couple of larger retail outdoor places. Just talk about it and ask folks. Lots of people are getting into it and need more experienced people to teach them. A lot of people did when they were kids or in scouts but haven\u2019t since being a grown up and don\u2019t know how to ask other people to join. Just put it out there ya know. I get plenty of solos in as well as group or family trips and it gets better every year.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 896.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "mhm6f9", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.94, "history": "How did you find people to go camping with? This is me basically admitting to having no friends with the same interests. :|", "c_root_id_A": "gszsp39", "c_root_id_B": "gszo51a", "created_at_utc_A": 1617249527, "created_at_utc_B": 1617246761, "score_A": 6, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "I hike and camp alone a lot. It's a really unique experience and it's one I really love. I adore the peace and quiet and the introspection of camping by myself. Oftentimes, if I am backpacking/camping with someone, I'm taking them on their first trip to experience what it is like. I talk about how amazing my trips and adventures are and when showing them the pictures, people often express interest about wanting to try it themselves. While a trip plan is always important to do, when camping alone it is absolutely critical to leave an accurate trip plan with a trusted person who will call the proper authorities if you don't check in by the agreed upon time.", "human_ref_B": "Craigslist", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 2766.0, "score_ratio": 3.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "mhm6f9", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.94, "history": "How did you find people to go camping with? This is me basically admitting to having no friends with the same interests. :|", "c_root_id_A": "gszsp39", "c_root_id_B": "gszsjgq", "created_at_utc_A": 1617249527, "created_at_utc_B": 1617249426, "score_A": 6, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "I hike and camp alone a lot. It's a really unique experience and it's one I really love. I adore the peace and quiet and the introspection of camping by myself. Oftentimes, if I am backpacking/camping with someone, I'm taking them on their first trip to experience what it is like. I talk about how amazing my trips and adventures are and when showing them the pictures, people often express interest about wanting to try it themselves. While a trip plan is always important to do, when camping alone it is absolutely critical to leave an accurate trip plan with a trusted person who will call the proper authorities if you don't check in by the agreed upon time.", "human_ref_B": "Go camping alone :)", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 101.0, "score_ratio": 3.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "mhm6f9", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.94, "history": "How did you find people to go camping with? This is me basically admitting to having no friends with the same interests. :|", "c_root_id_A": "gszxmj8", "c_root_id_B": "gszotup", "created_at_utc_A": 1617252879, "created_at_utc_B": 1617247171, "score_A": 6, "score_B": 5, "human_ref_A": "it\u2019s okay i don\u2019t have friends either. i\u2019ve learned to camp alone", "human_ref_B": "Go camping alone, meet people there! But be safe. Many cities also have meetup groups and outdoor clubs you could join. Or find a hiking club, many hikers are also campers.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 5708.0, "score_ratio": 1.2, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "mhm6f9", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.94, "history": "How did you find people to go camping with? This is me basically admitting to having no friends with the same interests. :|", "c_root_id_A": "gszo51a", "c_root_id_B": "gszotup", "created_at_utc_A": 1617246761, "created_at_utc_B": 1617247171, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 5, "human_ref_A": "Craigslist", "human_ref_B": "Go camping alone, meet people there! But be safe. Many cities also have meetup groups and outdoor clubs you could join. Or find a hiking club, many hikers are also campers.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 410.0, "score_ratio": 2.5, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "mhm6f9", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.94, "history": "How did you find people to go camping with? This is me basically admitting to having no friends with the same interests. :|", "c_root_id_A": "gszr9t3", "c_root_id_B": "gszxmj8", "created_at_utc_A": 1617248631, "created_at_utc_B": 1617252879, "score_A": 3, "score_B": 6, "human_ref_A": "I\u2019ve just always tried to get my regular friends into it. Cool work folks has also been a solid source for me. The other thing I\u2019ve done is worked at outdoor stores. Several local bike shops and a couple of larger retail outdoor places. Just talk about it and ask folks. Lots of people are getting into it and need more experienced people to teach them. A lot of people did when they were kids or in scouts but haven\u2019t since being a grown up and don\u2019t know how to ask other people to join. Just put it out there ya know. I get plenty of solos in as well as group or family trips and it gets better every year.", "human_ref_B": "it\u2019s okay i don\u2019t have friends either. i\u2019ve learned to camp alone", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 4248.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "mhm6f9", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.94, "history": "How did you find people to go camping with? This is me basically admitting to having no friends with the same interests. :|", "c_root_id_A": "gszo51a", "c_root_id_B": "gszxmj8", "created_at_utc_A": 1617246761, "created_at_utc_B": 1617252879, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 6, "human_ref_A": "Craigslist", "human_ref_B": "it\u2019s okay i don\u2019t have friends either. i\u2019ve learned to camp alone", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 6118.0, "score_ratio": 3.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "mhm6f9", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.94, "history": "How did you find people to go camping with? This is me basically admitting to having no friends with the same interests. :|", "c_root_id_A": "gszsjgq", "c_root_id_B": "gszxmj8", "created_at_utc_A": 1617249426, "created_at_utc_B": 1617252879, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 6, "human_ref_A": "Go camping alone :)", "human_ref_B": "it\u2019s okay i don\u2019t have friends either. i\u2019ve learned to camp alone", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 3453.0, "score_ratio": 3.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "mhm6f9", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.94, "history": "How did you find people to go camping with? This is me basically admitting to having no friends with the same interests. :|", "c_root_id_A": "gszo51a", "c_root_id_B": "gszr9t3", "created_at_utc_A": 1617246761, "created_at_utc_B": 1617248631, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 3, "human_ref_A": "Craigslist", "human_ref_B": "I\u2019ve just always tried to get my regular friends into it. Cool work folks has also been a solid source for me. The other thing I\u2019ve done is worked at outdoor stores. Several local bike shops and a couple of larger retail outdoor places. Just talk about it and ask folks. Lots of people are getting into it and need more experienced people to teach them. A lot of people did when they were kids or in scouts but haven\u2019t since being a grown up and don\u2019t know how to ask other people to join. Just put it out there ya know. I get plenty of solos in as well as group or family trips and it gets better every year.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 1870.0, "score_ratio": 1.5, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "mhm6f9", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.94, "history": "How did you find people to go camping with? This is me basically admitting to having no friends with the same interests. :|", "c_root_id_A": "gt13t78", "c_root_id_B": "gt14jep", "created_at_utc_A": 1617284832, "created_at_utc_B": 1617285211, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "If you happen to be Norwegian (far reach in this sub, I know), DM me", "human_ref_B": "I actually prefer to be along so it's not a problem for me haha", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 379.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "mhm6f9", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.94, "history": "How did you find people to go camping with? This is me basically admitting to having no friends with the same interests. :|", "c_root_id_A": "gt13t78", "c_root_id_B": "gt4niea", "created_at_utc_A": 1617284832, "created_at_utc_B": 1617360424, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "If you happen to be Norwegian (far reach in this sub, I know), DM me", "human_ref_B": "I camp alone a lot and share the dates with friends/family in case they want to join. I used to bend over backwards to plan group trips, only getting out a couple times a year as a result. Now I camp most summer weekends and the loneliness really isn't *that* crushing.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 75592.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "mhm6f9", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.94, "history": "How did you find people to go camping with? This is me basically admitting to having no friends with the same interests. :|", "c_root_id_A": "gt1eozm", "c_root_id_B": "gt4niea", "created_at_utc_A": 1617290085, "created_at_utc_B": 1617360424, "score_A": 1, "score_B": 2, "human_ref_A": "I'm solo camping or my fiance visits for a few nights when she's off work. I got my folks into camping a few years back as they were tired of RV'ing. We have couple friends that are *interested* but the problem becomes I don't have the gear to accommodate two more adults and possibly kids. Would be great to camp with other seasoned campers but then I'm in the same predicament. Funny, when I'm at a park I always feel like I'm the only solo camper, and maybe am, which kinda makes me somewhat self-conscious until I drink a cold brew or two XD", "human_ref_B": "I camp alone a lot and share the dates with friends/family in case they want to join. I used to bend over backwards to plan group trips, only getting out a couple times a year as a result. Now I camp most summer weekends and the loneliness really isn't *that* crushing.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 70339.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "tzl6nc", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.78, "history": "All of your camping life hacks! I love camping and have been going with the same group of friends for years now and love seeing or hearing different tricks and tips.. I thought it would be fun for everyone to share some of their camping pro tips, wether it\u2019s a life hack to stay warm, cooking, or easy set ups or pack up tips\u2026 Two things I like to do to stay warm when camping. 1) Shovel some hot coals from your campfire into a pile and place your chair above it. This can warm up your ass as you sit. (Obviously test it out and make sure the pile of coals isn\u2019t too big to catch your chair on fire or burn your cheeks). 2) This one I\u2019ve only tried once but it worked out very well but must be used with caution. I took a decent sized rock maybe a bit smaller than a football and placed it in the fire for about an hour. Before bed I fished the rock out of the fire with a shovel and carefully wrapped it in an old beach towel I had in my truck. I put the rock in the tent with with the towel opened up a bit to let the rock act as a heater and slept somewhat close by to it (not close enough to accidentally roll over and get burned by it).", "c_root_id_A": "i3zwzce", "c_root_id_B": "i40i2ag", "created_at_utc_A": 1649479504, "created_at_utc_B": 1649494824, "score_A": 5, "score_B": 7, "human_ref_A": "A tent pole or arrow are great for blowing into the coals of a fire to let it going better. Especially if the wood isn\u2019t very dry like you get at campsites.", "human_ref_B": "Learn from every trip. I know it sounds vague, but leave every trip thinking of ways you could do something better or just differently.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 15320.0, "score_ratio": 1.4, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "tzl6nc", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.78, "history": "All of your camping life hacks! I love camping and have been going with the same group of friends for years now and love seeing or hearing different tricks and tips.. I thought it would be fun for everyone to share some of their camping pro tips, wether it\u2019s a life hack to stay warm, cooking, or easy set ups or pack up tips\u2026 Two things I like to do to stay warm when camping. 1) Shovel some hot coals from your campfire into a pile and place your chair above it. This can warm up your ass as you sit. (Obviously test it out and make sure the pile of coals isn\u2019t too big to catch your chair on fire or burn your cheeks). 2) This one I\u2019ve only tried once but it worked out very well but must be used with caution. I took a decent sized rock maybe a bit smaller than a football and placed it in the fire for about an hour. Before bed I fished the rock out of the fire with a shovel and carefully wrapped it in an old beach towel I had in my truck. I put the rock in the tent with with the towel opened up a bit to let the rock act as a heater and slept somewhat close by to it (not close enough to accidentally roll over and get burned by it).", "c_root_id_A": "i3zuacp", "c_root_id_B": "i40i2ag", "created_at_utc_A": 1649477888, "created_at_utc_B": 1649494824, "score_A": 4, "score_B": 7, "human_ref_A": "If you ever need warmth camping put some warm water into a nalgene and place in your sleeping bag. Can save your night. I\u2019ve found a tarp is always a good idea. Dutch ovens are fun too. We like to bring a bellow if possible, we bought a betterthanbellows on Etsy and it\u2019s wonderful.", "human_ref_B": "Learn from every trip. I know it sounds vague, but leave every trip thinking of ways you could do something better or just differently.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 16936.0, "score_ratio": 1.75, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "tzl6nc", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.78, "history": "All of your camping life hacks! I love camping and have been going with the same group of friends for years now and love seeing or hearing different tricks and tips.. I thought it would be fun for everyone to share some of their camping pro tips, wether it\u2019s a life hack to stay warm, cooking, or easy set ups or pack up tips\u2026 Two things I like to do to stay warm when camping. 1) Shovel some hot coals from your campfire into a pile and place your chair above it. This can warm up your ass as you sit. (Obviously test it out and make sure the pile of coals isn\u2019t too big to catch your chair on fire or burn your cheeks). 2) This one I\u2019ve only tried once but it worked out very well but must be used with caution. I took a decent sized rock maybe a bit smaller than a football and placed it in the fire for about an hour. Before bed I fished the rock out of the fire with a shovel and carefully wrapped it in an old beach towel I had in my truck. I put the rock in the tent with with the towel opened up a bit to let the rock act as a heater and slept somewhat close by to it (not close enough to accidentally roll over and get burned by it).", "c_root_id_A": "i3zxw8p", "c_root_id_B": "i3zv22o", "created_at_utc_A": 1649480070, "created_at_utc_B": 1649478337, "score_A": 8, "score_B": 7, "human_ref_A": "Bake muffins in the fire using orange peels as a baking tin.", "human_ref_B": "A tampon and some Vaseline is the best firestarter. Pair that with a pocket bellows and you\u2019re golden. Put a pot of water next to your fire pit, and by bedtime you have some nice warm wash water with zero effort. A honcho poncho, or the naturehike knockoff, is the bomb", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 1733.0, "score_ratio": 1.1428571429, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "tzl6nc", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.78, "history": "All of your camping life hacks! I love camping and have been going with the same group of friends for years now and love seeing or hearing different tricks and tips.. I thought it would be fun for everyone to share some of their camping pro tips, wether it\u2019s a life hack to stay warm, cooking, or easy set ups or pack up tips\u2026 Two things I like to do to stay warm when camping. 1) Shovel some hot coals from your campfire into a pile and place your chair above it. This can warm up your ass as you sit. (Obviously test it out and make sure the pile of coals isn\u2019t too big to catch your chair on fire or burn your cheeks). 2) This one I\u2019ve only tried once but it worked out very well but must be used with caution. I took a decent sized rock maybe a bit smaller than a football and placed it in the fire for about an hour. Before bed I fished the rock out of the fire with a shovel and carefully wrapped it in an old beach towel I had in my truck. I put the rock in the tent with with the towel opened up a bit to let the rock act as a heater and slept somewhat close by to it (not close enough to accidentally roll over and get burned by it).", "c_root_id_A": "i3zxw8p", "c_root_id_B": "i3zwzce", "created_at_utc_A": 1649480070, "created_at_utc_B": 1649479504, "score_A": 8, "score_B": 5, "human_ref_A": "Bake muffins in the fire using orange peels as a baking tin.", "human_ref_B": "A tent pole or arrow are great for blowing into the coals of a fire to let it going better. Especially if the wood isn\u2019t very dry like you get at campsites.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 566.0, "score_ratio": 1.6, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "tzl6nc", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.78, "history": "All of your camping life hacks! I love camping and have been going with the same group of friends for years now and love seeing or hearing different tricks and tips.. I thought it would be fun for everyone to share some of their camping pro tips, wether it\u2019s a life hack to stay warm, cooking, or easy set ups or pack up tips\u2026 Two things I like to do to stay warm when camping. 1) Shovel some hot coals from your campfire into a pile and place your chair above it. This can warm up your ass as you sit. (Obviously test it out and make sure the pile of coals isn\u2019t too big to catch your chair on fire or burn your cheeks). 2) This one I\u2019ve only tried once but it worked out very well but must be used with caution. I took a decent sized rock maybe a bit smaller than a football and placed it in the fire for about an hour. Before bed I fished the rock out of the fire with a shovel and carefully wrapped it in an old beach towel I had in my truck. I put the rock in the tent with with the towel opened up a bit to let the rock act as a heater and slept somewhat close by to it (not close enough to accidentally roll over and get burned by it).", "c_root_id_A": "i3zuacp", "c_root_id_B": "i3zxw8p", "created_at_utc_A": 1649477888, "created_at_utc_B": 1649480070, "score_A": 4, "score_B": 8, "human_ref_A": "If you ever need warmth camping put some warm water into a nalgene and place in your sleeping bag. Can save your night. I\u2019ve found a tarp is always a good idea. Dutch ovens are fun too. We like to bring a bellow if possible, we bought a betterthanbellows on Etsy and it\u2019s wonderful.", "human_ref_B": "Bake muffins in the fire using orange peels as a baking tin.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 2182.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "tzl6nc", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.78, "history": "All of your camping life hacks! I love camping and have been going with the same group of friends for years now and love seeing or hearing different tricks and tips.. I thought it would be fun for everyone to share some of their camping pro tips, wether it\u2019s a life hack to stay warm, cooking, or easy set ups or pack up tips\u2026 Two things I like to do to stay warm when camping. 1) Shovel some hot coals from your campfire into a pile and place your chair above it. This can warm up your ass as you sit. (Obviously test it out and make sure the pile of coals isn\u2019t too big to catch your chair on fire or burn your cheeks). 2) This one I\u2019ve only tried once but it worked out very well but must be used with caution. I took a decent sized rock maybe a bit smaller than a football and placed it in the fire for about an hour. Before bed I fished the rock out of the fire with a shovel and carefully wrapped it in an old beach towel I had in my truck. I put the rock in the tent with with the towel opened up a bit to let the rock act as a heater and slept somewhat close by to it (not close enough to accidentally roll over and get burned by it).", "c_root_id_A": "i3zuacp", "c_root_id_B": "i3zv22o", "created_at_utc_A": 1649477888, "created_at_utc_B": 1649478337, "score_A": 4, "score_B": 7, "human_ref_A": "If you ever need warmth camping put some warm water into a nalgene and place in your sleeping bag. Can save your night. I\u2019ve found a tarp is always a good idea. Dutch ovens are fun too. We like to bring a bellow if possible, we bought a betterthanbellows on Etsy and it\u2019s wonderful.", "human_ref_B": "A tampon and some Vaseline is the best firestarter. Pair that with a pocket bellows and you\u2019re golden. Put a pot of water next to your fire pit, and by bedtime you have some nice warm wash water with zero effort. A honcho poncho, or the naturehike knockoff, is the bomb", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 449.0, "score_ratio": 1.75, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "tzl6nc", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.78, "history": "All of your camping life hacks! I love camping and have been going with the same group of friends for years now and love seeing or hearing different tricks and tips.. I thought it would be fun for everyone to share some of their camping pro tips, wether it\u2019s a life hack to stay warm, cooking, or easy set ups or pack up tips\u2026 Two things I like to do to stay warm when camping. 1) Shovel some hot coals from your campfire into a pile and place your chair above it. This can warm up your ass as you sit. (Obviously test it out and make sure the pile of coals isn\u2019t too big to catch your chair on fire or burn your cheeks). 2) This one I\u2019ve only tried once but it worked out very well but must be used with caution. I took a decent sized rock maybe a bit smaller than a football and placed it in the fire for about an hour. Before bed I fished the rock out of the fire with a shovel and carefully wrapped it in an old beach towel I had in my truck. I put the rock in the tent with with the towel opened up a bit to let the rock act as a heater and slept somewhat close by to it (not close enough to accidentally roll over and get burned by it).", "c_root_id_A": "i3zuacp", "c_root_id_B": "i3zwzce", "created_at_utc_A": 1649477888, "created_at_utc_B": 1649479504, "score_A": 4, "score_B": 5, "human_ref_A": "If you ever need warmth camping put some warm water into a nalgene and place in your sleeping bag. Can save your night. I\u2019ve found a tarp is always a good idea. Dutch ovens are fun too. We like to bring a bellow if possible, we bought a betterthanbellows on Etsy and it\u2019s wonderful.", "human_ref_B": "A tent pole or arrow are great for blowing into the coals of a fire to let it going better. Especially if the wood isn\u2019t very dry like you get at campsites.", "labels": 0, "seconds_difference": 1616.0, "score_ratio": 1.25, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "tzl6nc", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.78, "history": "All of your camping life hacks! I love camping and have been going with the same group of friends for years now and love seeing or hearing different tricks and tips.. I thought it would be fun for everyone to share some of their camping pro tips, wether it\u2019s a life hack to stay warm, cooking, or easy set ups or pack up tips\u2026 Two things I like to do to stay warm when camping. 1) Shovel some hot coals from your campfire into a pile and place your chair above it. This can warm up your ass as you sit. (Obviously test it out and make sure the pile of coals isn\u2019t too big to catch your chair on fire or burn your cheeks). 2) This one I\u2019ve only tried once but it worked out very well but must be used with caution. I took a decent sized rock maybe a bit smaller than a football and placed it in the fire for about an hour. Before bed I fished the rock out of the fire with a shovel and carefully wrapped it in an old beach towel I had in my truck. I put the rock in the tent with with the towel opened up a bit to let the rock act as a heater and slept somewhat close by to it (not close enough to accidentally roll over and get burned by it).", "c_root_id_A": "i473qgu", "c_root_id_B": "i3zuacp", "created_at_utc_A": 1649616776, "created_at_utc_B": 1649477888, "score_A": 5, "score_B": 4, "human_ref_A": "You shouldn't have to stand there cooking and cleaning all day for each meal. Simplify things. Pre-cook and freeze meals or meal ingredients. This works great for things like spaghetti sauce and pasta, chili, stew, and more. Browned ground meat. Prepare, pre-chop, slice, marinate as much as you can before going. Ziplock (double bag) in meal kits. I do this for veggies (except potatoes), fruit (except bananas), pre-cut and freeze chunks of meat for kababs/stew/stir fry. Lettuce for sandwiches/burgers can be washed, separated and put in a zip lock with a paper towel. You can even pre-make sandwich packets by stacking a sandwich worth of lunchmeat, cheese and separate with wax paper then put in a zip lock. Bring ingredients that will go with several meals. Lettuce and tomatoes for burgers work well for tacos and sandwiches too. Consider your bread choice. Pre-cooked bacon. I get it from Costco for a group, the grocery for just the two of us. It warms up super fast without the large amount of grease. Crack eggs and put them in a screw top bottle you label with egg quantities on the side 2/4/6 etc. Granted, you can't have fried eggs, but it's an easy way to bring eggs without the shells breaking or taking up much room in the cooler. Use a plastic storage bin for your breads, rolls, buns. It keeps them from getting crushed. Two coolers. One for beverages, one for food. Pre-chill coolers with cooled and frozen foods and beverages. Use frozen water bottles to keep food dry. Mix block and cube ice. make an insert of Reflectix for the cooler adding a top piece. It will increase the length of your ice retention. Keep cooler off the ground, in the shade or covered with an emergency blanket or other insulating blanket. Baby wipes. I use them to have a quick clean up of my body, hand cleaning, tables, you can even use them to clean up kitchen items. Don't use Clorox wipes exclusively for this or your body. Even using on your hands and you'll have dry, painful skin after a few days out camping. I do bring anti-bacterial hand wipes for sanitizing what's needed. Collapsible dish pan/buckets. Saves room, easy to transport. TP...need I say more? I highly advise against using rocks unless you're in a dry area and are very cautious. I've seen them explode. If you do, consider inserting in an oven mitt. Packaged hand/foot/body warmers are a good idea to keep in the camp box as are a couple emergency blankets. A piece of Reflectix behind and under you when sitting by the fire will reflect heat back to you and keep you nice and toasty. Always have a tarp, rope, duct tape.", "human_ref_B": "If you ever need warmth camping put some warm water into a nalgene and place in your sleeping bag. Can save your night. I\u2019ve found a tarp is always a good idea. Dutch ovens are fun too. We like to bring a bellow if possible, we bought a betterthanbellows on Etsy and it\u2019s wonderful.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 138888.0, "score_ratio": 1.25, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "tzl6nc", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.78, "history": "All of your camping life hacks! I love camping and have been going with the same group of friends for years now and love seeing or hearing different tricks and tips.. I thought it would be fun for everyone to share some of their camping pro tips, wether it\u2019s a life hack to stay warm, cooking, or easy set ups or pack up tips\u2026 Two things I like to do to stay warm when camping. 1) Shovel some hot coals from your campfire into a pile and place your chair above it. This can warm up your ass as you sit. (Obviously test it out and make sure the pile of coals isn\u2019t too big to catch your chair on fire or burn your cheeks). 2) This one I\u2019ve only tried once but it worked out very well but must be used with caution. I took a decent sized rock maybe a bit smaller than a football and placed it in the fire for about an hour. Before bed I fished the rock out of the fire with a shovel and carefully wrapped it in an old beach towel I had in my truck. I put the rock in the tent with with the towel opened up a bit to let the rock act as a heater and slept somewhat close by to it (not close enough to accidentally roll over and get burned by it).", "c_root_id_A": "i473qgu", "c_root_id_B": "i42vxcq", "created_at_utc_A": 1649616776, "created_at_utc_B": 1649537022, "score_A": 5, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "You shouldn't have to stand there cooking and cleaning all day for each meal. Simplify things. Pre-cook and freeze meals or meal ingredients. This works great for things like spaghetti sauce and pasta, chili, stew, and more. Browned ground meat. Prepare, pre-chop, slice, marinate as much as you can before going. Ziplock (double bag) in meal kits. I do this for veggies (except potatoes), fruit (except bananas), pre-cut and freeze chunks of meat for kababs/stew/stir fry. Lettuce for sandwiches/burgers can be washed, separated and put in a zip lock with a paper towel. You can even pre-make sandwich packets by stacking a sandwich worth of lunchmeat, cheese and separate with wax paper then put in a zip lock. Bring ingredients that will go with several meals. Lettuce and tomatoes for burgers work well for tacos and sandwiches too. Consider your bread choice. Pre-cooked bacon. I get it from Costco for a group, the grocery for just the two of us. It warms up super fast without the large amount of grease. Crack eggs and put them in a screw top bottle you label with egg quantities on the side 2/4/6 etc. Granted, you can't have fried eggs, but it's an easy way to bring eggs without the shells breaking or taking up much room in the cooler. Use a plastic storage bin for your breads, rolls, buns. It keeps them from getting crushed. Two coolers. One for beverages, one for food. Pre-chill coolers with cooled and frozen foods and beverages. Use frozen water bottles to keep food dry. Mix block and cube ice. make an insert of Reflectix for the cooler adding a top piece. It will increase the length of your ice retention. Keep cooler off the ground, in the shade or covered with an emergency blanket or other insulating blanket. Baby wipes. I use them to have a quick clean up of my body, hand cleaning, tables, you can even use them to clean up kitchen items. Don't use Clorox wipes exclusively for this or your body. Even using on your hands and you'll have dry, painful skin after a few days out camping. I do bring anti-bacterial hand wipes for sanitizing what's needed. Collapsible dish pan/buckets. Saves room, easy to transport. TP...need I say more? I highly advise against using rocks unless you're in a dry area and are very cautious. I've seen them explode. If you do, consider inserting in an oven mitt. Packaged hand/foot/body warmers are a good idea to keep in the camp box as are a couple emergency blankets. A piece of Reflectix behind and under you when sitting by the fire will reflect heat back to you and keep you nice and toasty. Always have a tarp, rope, duct tape.", "human_ref_B": "Doritos and frito corn chips are actually able to ignite and hold a flame for a long period of time and makes for a great firestarter so don't throw stale chips away because the oil they're cooked in is why they hold a flame. If you plan to stealth camp and absolutely need a fire but don't want the noticeable smoke make a Dakota fire hole that way you can cook and enjoy a good campfire and after you put it out you can just fill the holes back in and put the grass back on top it'll be like nobody was ever even there at all.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 79754.0, "score_ratio": 5.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""} {"post_id": "tzl6nc", "domain": "camping_validation", "upvote_ratio": 0.78, "history": "All of your camping life hacks! I love camping and have been going with the same group of friends for years now and love seeing or hearing different tricks and tips.. I thought it would be fun for everyone to share some of their camping pro tips, wether it\u2019s a life hack to stay warm, cooking, or easy set ups or pack up tips\u2026 Two things I like to do to stay warm when camping. 1) Shovel some hot coals from your campfire into a pile and place your chair above it. This can warm up your ass as you sit. (Obviously test it out and make sure the pile of coals isn\u2019t too big to catch your chair on fire or burn your cheeks). 2) This one I\u2019ve only tried once but it worked out very well but must be used with caution. I took a decent sized rock maybe a bit smaller than a football and placed it in the fire for about an hour. Before bed I fished the rock out of the fire with a shovel and carefully wrapped it in an old beach towel I had in my truck. I put the rock in the tent with with the towel opened up a bit to let the rock act as a heater and slept somewhat close by to it (not close enough to accidentally roll over and get burned by it).", "c_root_id_A": "i47p30h", "c_root_id_B": "i42vxcq", "created_at_utc_A": 1649625720, "created_at_utc_B": 1649537022, "score_A": 2, "score_B": 1, "human_ref_A": "Put next days socks, underwear, and T-shirt/ base layer in sleeping bag when you go to bed. It\u2019s nice to put on warm clothes.", "human_ref_B": "Doritos and frito corn chips are actually able to ignite and hold a flame for a long period of time and makes for a great firestarter so don't throw stale chips away because the oil they're cooked in is why they hold a flame. If you plan to stealth camp and absolutely need a fire but don't want the noticeable smoke make a Dakota fire hole that way you can cook and enjoy a good campfire and after you put it out you can just fill the holes back in and put the grass back on top it'll be like nobody was ever even there at all.", "labels": 1, "seconds_difference": 88698.0, "score_ratio": 2.0, "metadata_A": "", "metadata_B": ""}