should know me that well that okay why am I feeling this and I think also when both the sides help each other grow hmm like it's not like he I'm gonna benefit from you and you're gonna benefit from me no it should just be a very natural process where you're just every single day making each other a better person and collectively becoming better people mm-hmm and I feel if you're not becoming a better person like if being with a person in a relationship does not make you a better person or makes you a worse person that's a toxic relationship have you had any in your life romantic relationships no not really actually I've actually um I've been very intolerant to so I had like boyfriends in the past Joe and Kathy it started Keough don't talk to this boy don't that because of the mommy issues I don't know probably but like one dad in my life Joe Coffey I don't need another daddy thank you but in terms of relationships and your career when you know


in terms of relationships and your career when you know one of the partners carios flying so much do you think it's possible for the other partners Cory also to fly at that same pace and them to bounce off each other very rare that both like everyone goes through a phase of up and down in your life and if you're lucky you and your partner will have a similar cycle but if you're unlucky or not unlucky I mean it's it's it's life it happens oh it might not be in a similar cycle and that's when I said that that's when that respect Commons comes into being that if my car yours flying off my partner's car yours flying that person should not start disrespecting the other person or thinking lowly of the other person's house as long as sorry to cut you off but it's also very important key the person whose graph is RB going on or like having a downwards look that person should be strong enough to accept appreciate support and encourage the person who's


accept appreciate support and encourage the person who's on a height of the graph should be secure yes okay you know you're 27 ha and I'm sure you need it we will say when you're 19 20 huh so how is your opinion on relationships change now compared to them then you try to we we are dating okay at 22 cello not 99 at 22 you know when all the starts when post-college life starts this is 27 28 mm-hmm what is the difference in relationships okay I might not be the best person to answer this because my boyfriend I've been together for six years so we've kind of okay I mean I was 21 22 you know they say that if you know someone for seven years they can so one more year to go nice if I ask you like what's the best-case scenario for 50 year old but causing what would you say oh-ho best okay hmm traveling still has a lot of money and most of the money has gone into this big property just City believe but Ducks are


this big property just City believe but Ducks are black chill career and I should also be able to chill there and I should have a room where like there lots of puppies who are growing up because unco is a Baha'i Carolyn and a puppies are so you can go inside that puppy room and you can choose that's my I think that's my next life is you think your money for those puppies yeah absolutely absolutely I think you so I'm Oh quite um like I save I Rolly Rolly Rolly value saving when you can say if not at the cost of being conduce rainy but like shocked the Buddha carny but I want to talked about the soul okay I'm meeting a lot of people like around our age I mean you're younger than you were and I see too many people not saving the money not taking care of their money do you see this happening yeah why is that happening shortsightedness or I don't know just not being wise enough I've heard people


know just not being wise enough I've heard people are not being prepared for it I think it's kind of wrong parenting wrong friend so girls but it's also you know I hear people saying things like oh I am from so-and-so community we don't save anyway so like haha like that's in my genetics oh that is that's that's a mindset that's limiting rather limiting mindset who gave you this mindset of saving my dad what did he say he believes in investments hmm so he told me from a very young age like it's been our dinner table conversation since we were like in fourth fifth standard coach beaker no always say 50% of your income couch BOJ always say 50% of your income and in the remaining 50% virtual our Joby card shaker Oh an ash guru hmm like don't don't ever compromise on fun yeah but at the same time don't submerge the see you now and always know that all these are the value for off money as much money comes but know


value for off money as much money comes but know the value of 100 rupee mm-hmm and another thing that I learned again and this is actually from my boyfriend from my part know that money has different values for different people and it's not something learn like we all know this but we never only felt it so I've stopped bargaining with vegetable vendors or you know job of Diwali me lanterns carita Osceola taxi vallis dune buggy in because thankfully the value of a hundred rupee note for you and me will be different than that taxi Bala holds value is that hundred rupee note yeah so yeah you should just like be mindful of the value of money also yeah so even now I'm sure you follow that 50 percent rule somewhere I save more than 50 percent okay like can you give a number I don't oh wow I live with my parents okay mmm so like do you understand like your personal finances like do you yeah I'm great deep into it absolutely so can you just


great deep into it absolutely so can you just give and I'm asking you this question so you can put the information out to young 26 27 year old yeah just so that they have guidance because what if they're from families that don't guide them right so what is a good strategy like how do you divide your money so if you hadn't mentioned that families who don't get them is take your parents advice when it comes to money because maybe in other things you might be or you might think you're smarter than them oh you know because every generation just knows so many more things because of exposure but things like money I think you should trust your parents and their better judgment as opposed to because if especially if at a young age you've been lucky enough to make some money for yourself up 21 Yorkie aged me are never gonna be able to value that money or know what to do with that money so if your family is actually guiding you definitely Popeye I'm a me Joe because I'm


definitely Popeye I'm a me Joe because I'm BOTS so no you might not like it then he you can't buy a car that you like or you can't buy that designer bag that you like but you're gonna need that money and you're gonna thank your dad or mom later which is my case personally but if your family does not like get into this or whatever you know I think it's always good to professionally or find someone who can advise you on how to invest your money and I think a short-term and long-term or safe and high-risk investments are a very very smart or if you kind of give an idea of how you divide your own money like can you give out your investment strategy like I'll tell you what I do straight-up save around 60% I personally use very little money but the Bo Bice's organization all the money is coming in I invest who will be a biceps organization so 60% is always say 40% is running the show yeah and I also count if if I'm


the show yeah and I also count if if I'm buying like say a t-shirt or something it's kind of my costume for what I wear online yeah I put a big chunk of it in a portfolio management company same okay like that because that's easy and we are creative people yeah so you don't actively want to be in no problem if you do but it's just easier to put all your money with a good trusted portfolio management so this is that if your job allows you do it yourself but otherwise exactly as you said yeah so I put a big chunk of the money in the portfolio management service soup and and the rule with portfolio management service is that one there's too many of them so don't just invest money easily do a lot of research behind that one if it's a trusted one your family has worked with or something then it's an even better case and kind of keep a tab on what they are doing with your money also don't just leave it and like forget just just have an idea of


it and like forget just just have an idea of what's happening you don't need to get deep into it and then I divide some of like the rest of it in the usual fixed deposits and mutual funds and I have a chunk of it which I keep on the side and I give to some of my friends who are just starting up their own versions of portfolio management services so they are also Manning some but it's a very small percent something that I can like easily afford to lose that's my high risk high but how about you like what do you do but slick something very similar never put all your eggs in one basket never put all your eggs in one basket can I say one more thing I'm sorry I forgot to mention this because of business a huge amount of money since the day I started learning has always gone back in my businesses always like oh they sent I office you see everything is bootstrap like we've we've not taken any loan from anyone we've all taken one rupee from


loan from anyone we've all taken one rupee from our parents it's always any money that's coming in the first mentality is how much money do we need to throw back into the business to make things grow and also going forward I have some huge business plans over the next two years which I've told you about which I can't talk about and they are very capital-intensive they require a lot of money so almost any money that we are making off Bo Bice's I know my first hunch is that wait it's got to go back in in saying that like this YouTube world and all is very nice it's very rewarding you get to travel a lot you get you know great experiences all right so I have nothing to come later is nothing lacking in my life but that's because I'm very careful with how the money is divided no coming back to you it's this like very honestly it's so what you do is a very safe and a wise way of using your money and obviously apart from investing in


using your money and obviously apart from investing in other people's or portfolio manager or like the smaller ones that very little percentage that you do apart from that it's almost the same and as I was saying never put your eggs in one basket and yeah that's that's kind of what I do like there's nothing new or anything yeah but you didn't study finance right no no I didn't study finance all marry Papa Kasich got it so you learned from your dad your dad guy did you still learn I'm still learning god he's still teaching me like I'm still in fact he encourages me to sit with him at least once a month and he takes me through what is invested where and why this is invested here and why it was not invested there at this particular time and all of that so he takes me through and another thing I wanted to mention when you brought up saying that keep a tab on your long-term investments don't just forget them so I had an experience with that


just forget them so I had an experience with that okay um again obviously I'm not gonna take any names but it was one of those long-term investment things and I realized that I mean obviously in these long term investments or valued appreciates and then goes up on our regular basis but what Dupree she took it there was no upward curve it was not going up only and when you asked for the statements and everything there were false statements that were being printed and given to me hmm and like and it was this thing there was a certain amount of money going every year into that you know that scheme that policy and had I not seen it I don't know what would have been the thing at the end of its maturity yeah yeah yeah so and very honestly I didn't see it my dad saw it but that's why I'm saying I'm still learning I I I'm definitely learning but now that that happened I'm mindful of it god and that's again I seen this because it completely


and that's again I seen this because it completely ties in with what you said that dark a bull madjoe keep tabs Torah calm here but yeah you've worked so hard for that yeah 100% Oh what are the financial earnings have you had just like this let me like encapsulate everything yes divide your eggs don't keep them in one basket just ask you about it from the you don't need shy of a song you don't need to study in personal finance or something yeah start yeah start somewhere no matter how little you are right absolutely and save as much as you can so you as much as you can and keep a tab on all your investments right like you just need to look at what's happening yeah let me think if I think of any I think like this is it I think beyond this if I try to say something I'll be bullshitting so but like you know say you want to invest in a mutual fund or fixed deposit how do you go about that process I personally asked


do you go about that process I personally asked my Gujarati friends why am i co-founder sitting downstairs it's just that because that's your safe and very very safe so I take that advice from the people who played the most safe Gujaratis maharaj's asked there so but ask a friend for advice put your money there so my dad okay cool so he keeps so now that he's retired he definitely like he obviously has his own company now but he also keeps track of the financial markets and what's happening what new things are coming what new policies are there what new schemes are there this is that so he's the one I asked yeah have you ever thought of investing in startups going forward I actually wanted to I had oh but like it wasn't convincing enough Tony kiya many but yours open to start absolutely absolutely but I just need to be very convinced that's the CI I really want to be an investor yeah yeah same like again have not got like


investor yeah yeah same like again have not got like the right kind of offer yet like as another product hasn't appeared to me so much ha we're just putting the message out there yeah guys in this country are ready to invest in startups there are good ideas my way of investing in a start-up is we have around 40 people working in both organizations so any kind of startup idea that any of the kids have we've always made clear that just bring it up and we'll build it together so in a way you're kind of investing your time money if required right they are very open to investing money but definitely will investor time absolutely also the world of YouTube the world of influencers the world of everything we teachers you a lot of life lessons business absolutely which is because we meet so many people and like so many different kinds of people from different places and everything so I think it just like it keeps your brain active trial-and-error see you know hundred percent i represent so i have this tradition


hundred percent i represent so i have this tradition or whenever we have a web actor coming on the podcast which has been only as are still now okay but you're the second persons your continuing education we always talk about romance and attraction as a big part of the podcast right the only because i think actors have to think about romance and all way more than the average person yeah you know because see now you're needing someone yeah but on screen if you do man's and others you have to reactivate that mode yeah and kind of you have to fake it you don't actually love this person yeah but you have to show that you love that so actors actively think a lot more about love romance attraction things like that so i know you've been a music service but say tomorrow you were to become single at this stage of your life what would you look for in a potential guy is in a potential boyfriend someone who's woke like in what we like spiritual someone who's beyond like you know like


like spiritual someone who's beyond like you know like someone who's capable of having a conversation like you and i just had so like someone who's like VOC i can't think of any but like someone was just at the same space in life that i am who i can have those conversations with and who helps me feel like i am off work now okay like you can switch off into that person yeah like i don't have to put an effort to like keep that Oh another very important thing is so important that your partner should be social okay like I'm very social I am very social so for me I need my partner also to be social like I don't want to go to a party and have to be a be said my partner Kiva Bhaskar people are talking to him is my social you mean good like social skills yes it's not like sorry rephrase that someone was social skills need not necessarily be like a influenza hahaha but yeah someone who has good social skills a good sense of humor


who has good social skills a good sense of humor oh yeah and just generally I know doesn't tell me who's like a Sobotka who is this guy bothering nobody even even I've had like an experience like that way possessive relationship at one point and oh yeah yeah baby like what nature you yeah it's um it becomes really toxic if you don't get out of it so how long did he get out of it I've only dated long term so getting it date updated that particular person to like three and a half yours but after it got toxic how long did you stay in it I'm asking because even I'm knocks like one month into it three and a half years like so bad question Thanks Thanks no I don't regret it it taught me a lot taught me a lot about why don't want in life but come on this is also because I'm guilty of being through a relationship that was an ideal that it's a bathmat kerubim or let's let's call him Pingu


kerubim or let's let's call him Pingu Pingu yeah Thank You ping California was the pink notes so what what a big bonus for you like could you describe pink ooh a little bit more in detail like what what is a deal breaker deal breaker oh this only are like just being very insecure and like me having to babysit you are not respecting someone like I think respect is so important if someone does not respect me I cannot respect that person back or even I have the remotest feeling of affection for that person you know I'm gonna read out one very deep learning I heard yesterday from one of my mentors and it's actually it's not easy to understand I was reading it like three four times it's a very simple statement okay let me read it all because it's very apt for this podcast also absolute so this is from Manish Pandey who is like basically we've done a podcast with him he's one of the most lurid guys I've come across in my life okay I


guys I've come across in my life okay I found okay so resume this is from Manish Pandey on Twitter adjoined to Manish beautiful statement without trust communication breaks here's why in any human interaction the required amount of communication is inversely proportional to the level of trust which means if there's very little trust you require talking a lot more attention mode listen call me at that party okay but if there's a lot of trust huh then you require less communication you require less listen I need to see you very often right and in order for trust to be there a person needs to love themselves a lot focus jitna come they love themselves what the come they'll trust you absolutely which is what we've been talking about throughout this podcast that it's all what's inside you that you project yeah hundred and that's so beautiful yeah yeah that's so beautiful I think it's also those little unsaid things in a relationship that make it so special like that's what differentiates that but your partner from your closest


what differentiates that but your partner from your closest friends in one of the breakups I had I was feeling bad about it and a friend of mine came up to me and he said that too you know remember that when you break up it's difficult to get over the person not because it was most good-looking or very smart but because of the little things like you know the way the person laughed the way that wasn't reacted the way there wasn't like scratch their head I was like you but life is long and there's a lot of people out there and you know I think there is I do believe in the concept of soulmates like I think that there are soulmates in the world and also kind of yoga school I go to the whole chapter about soulmates and such a good feel good chapter yeah the whole so the the yoga school I go to school biases and there is no so drawn to it is because they talk about how meditation in yoga should be used to forward your career


in yoga should be used to forward your career as well because only when you have material wealth like money like success then you can actually go out and help other people and you have enough comfort to give a lot of your energy to the spiritual growth as well but coming back to romance some most of other than like so you spoke about really deep things about what you look for in a guy is it true that most girls don't really look at the looks of a person and look for what's deeper because I'll tell you honestly most guys are very looks oriented guys are very visual it's just how men men's brains are hard-wired I know there'll be some people commenting in the but this is your observation and it's your opinion 99% of guys I'm very like visual as in they need at least a certain level of you don't take away a box yeah what takes their box okay but that's not true for girls like us I've seen especially in young girls look for depth look for the


especially in young girls look for depth look for the mind look for conversation would you agree this is actually the answer to what you asked me some time back you asked me what's the difference what a difference would be between a 21 year when you're between the relationship and you 21 years in many or 28 years I think it's this because when you're that young and when you straight out of college it might be more for the looks but as you mature and as you see what actually matters in life that does that takes a backseat that's not a priority anymore so I think it just comes from a place of maturity and as they say boys never grow up so haha and I think I think somewhere it's it's a little wrong but I feel all guys kind of it's a little bit they look from a meaner relationship like just a little bit it's especially a lot of young guys yeah not all but like a lot of boys like being mothered yeah yeah yeah I think haha do any mommy


yeah yeah yeah I think haha do any mommy issues in this mini mommy is it all happen at like tiga markup yeah at chair but Marcia and she is look because you're such a positive person and because you also have a stable relationship now what's your like romantic advice for the world like what's one thing you think you've done correct romantically no I think it's very honestly it's again just being true to myself and being true to how I felt about this person not saying I've done that always always in life everyone learns from trial and errors so when pinku happened I was with pinku for a good two years when I didn't want to be with in cool but I just didn't have the balls to go and tell pinku that listen row mm OH so I think just being true to yourself yeah and I think I've been true to myself and not put up with and yeah that's what I think has and being respectful again like I can't say enough how important respect is


like I can't say enough how important respect is so I think yeah I've been respectful in a relation oh and honest oh hell yeah screw everything else honest that's your ground rule for us yeah yeah and I think that's what I've done right in my relationship in every possible level way I could and I think in every possible way possible only like whatever mistake you made communication also like you've communicated honestly yeah yeah yeah absolutely mmm absolutely why do people cheat I think see again this is again very debatable but man was not meant to be monogamous do you believe that I believe that like you think my men and women are supposed to be polyamorous or poly was it called AI polyamory polyandrous polyamorous so hmm what do you what do you think of that I think that's imposed by society hasn't oh this thing of being monogamous of having one partner of having a mate for life is what wolves do but that they do that biologically I don't know if


that they do that biologically I don't know if humans like did that or didn't do that but in my opinion it is something that was made like a hard and fast rule only through society and so although you know social checks and the norms and the values and the idol idea systems and all of that but yeah I don't think we were supposed to be like humans were supposed to be free and like you know create stuff because they had that mental capability of creating stuff but I think sada free Oh JA they are like too much freedom is sometimes detrimental so I think that's why society imposed having you know partners yeah yeah but you made us Oh Jenna yeah but but why do people cheat is because of this yeah like it's probably in your DNA and lack of spine to be honest you are not like strong enough to believe in oh you know your relationship or to control yourself I think it's just you know it's the worst when and I've seen a lot of


the worst when and I've seen a lot of cheating happening around me it's the worst when one person's really strong and believes a lot in it and then one weak person like breaks but yeah the worst lying about it hiding it I think even hiding is a lie only for me yeah yeah so let's let's reference someone called pinky bingo my line open Oh pinky yours yeah okay tell me about pinky I think we just spoke about pinky right no how about like what about pinky now we just spoke about pinky yeah that's happened but you know what even like the worst possible breakups always make you stronger and if it doesn't kill you it makes you strong it only makes you stronger yeah so but nothing thank you for being on the link all of my cassings handles down below we subscribe to the YouTube channel and make sure you follow on Instagram it's our best most hard-working most positive feeds but there's only four things I like about podcasting so we spoke about


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hey what good you guys have always promised you intelligent conversations only Rennell Abraham is a Bollywood insider he hosts his own chat show he's also one of the most highly networked people have met in the media industry in general so the dope that he's gonna dish on this podcast is gonna be super spicy super real and super deep it's gonna be a deep intelligent conversation about the dark side of Bollywood but also about the bright side of Bollywood what it takes to become big in the Bollywood industry so if you're even remotely interested in the Bollywood industry trust me you're gonna enjoy every bit of this podcast I know it's one hour long but podcasts or one of those things we are not really supposed to watch the podcast you're supposed to listen to it so just before sleeping I know keep your phone on the side of the bed listen to it deeply you're gonna have fun throughout this conversation you're gonna learn a lot and if you're even remotely


learn a lot and if you're even remotely connected to the media industry you're interested in the media industry this one's gonna add a lot of value to your life and even if it doesn't add value it's just gonna entertain you a lot fun gossipy session with rental Abraham theme of this podcast is intelligent conversations only and the theme of this episode is bollywood gossip with mom man I love how you've put intelligent conversations and Bollywood together you are a visionary yes this do what people don't put these two N two together I'll tell you why Rennell Abraham yeah one p you actually younger than me you're like 25 you've been in Bombay for like two three years it'll be four years okay four years in September and you've risen to a place in your career where people like dream of being or can you've done that info yours I feel that that is because of the big brain that you hide from the world yeah but you I've told you this before I feel


but you I've told you this before I feel like you're the kind of person who shows one version of themselves to Bollywood and the world yeah you are a little crazy I'll tell you you like you're creepy that's accurate right yeah and then this will yoga yeah that's my yoga that's my yoga knocking I can see through people and there's one version of you that you keep to yourself where you're calculating where understanding how to get forward in your career yeah but you're not a bad person you're not using that to like you know you're not using it to hurt someone you're just using it to progress your own career which is fine yeah in this process of progress saying talking to people Hevy networking you're like one of the most crazily networked people that I know in my life ha you built like a massive Bollywood network you have a lot of guff as you call it on volume a lot of gossip I do without names there is a lot of gap here


do without names there is a lot of gap here in saying that with the gossip we've also got a lot of learnings which I always share with me you give me a lot of insights on how the Bollywood business works how the Bollywood industry works how the vibes are the drug culture the party and the sleeping around so I caught what is this you have like no chill great into the drug culture the party and the sleeping around well done yes the viewers are you for as well so Reynold my first question to you is that is this drug culture partying and sleeping around a real thing in Bali or does it happen see I mean you know how see when I came into the industry right obviously like I didn't come into I think I'm a part of the industry now because of like the people that I'm associated with otherwise for the job that I do I should ideally no not be a part of Bollywood as much and I should be a part of the media fraternity or whatever


should be a part of the media fraternity or whatever but I think when I came to Bombay there are always these notions of like like how he's saying like there's drugs everywhere and there's everywhere it's like it sounds like a massive orgy that's happening it's it's not that but it's cool though I mean it's it's not just because it's Bollywood I think it happens everywhere right I feel like in Bollywood see I've said this to a lot of people I feel like you would understand I'm sure because I think it's entity in minutes creative I think people are lot more liberal and a lot more chill when it comes to trying out things accepting yeah now when comes to trying out things it could mean like it could be alcohol or drugs or like even sleeping around when you I mean you could say this in a very derogatory way but then you could also mean that you just like just having sex with someone yeah like and people are very chilled with like everything


yeah like and people are very chilled with like everything and I think that comes with the space of being creative in meddling with art and all of that stuff gotta go so I think it's a very chill space god everyone's very like accepting is a good word got it yeah but is there also cheating on spouses and all that yeah okay that's not you guys yeah see I'll tell you now I really feel like I mean there's a lot of it and I mean I know people like neighbors who have done this from the industry and I have I might be even guilty of like encouraging it or like making a few happen but like I'm very chilly though like see this again no judgments yeah like I feel like so there are people who are married and yet have open relationships ministry there are people who are cheating on their spouses with another person but like I remember having a conversation with this woman who was an actor and also like a supermodel she's she's won a lot of pageants and


she's she's won a lot of pageants and stuff like that she told me she's married to this guy who doesn't live in in live in Bombay and he lives in Delhi as a businessman whatever I'm giving away too much but she told me that like emotional infidelity is the problem like physically if you are like it because because if you know in biology we learn food sex in water or other three basic needs and now if I'm telling you that you can only drink from one but water bottle but when you're thirsty you have to go back all the way home and then drink it it's your basic need know so if it's just about can I swear yeah yeah go for it if it's just about hang it out then might as well but if you're going by the same person for your emotional needs yeah because I feel like a lot of people a lot of couples in the industry have that so they very proper distinction so they're sleeping around but emotionally they're coming back


they're sleeping around but emotionally they're coming back yeah yeah okay yeah even like the top actors in the industry yeah okay that's happening yeah damn Wow and I think it's very progressive though okay like I do not cool it's accepted interest yeah I mean otherwise that marriage wouldn't I mean few thing is it's not like it's a marriage on compromise like we would like to imagine that oh my god like they might be having big problems and like you know they're just together for the sake of it there are people are that also some of the biggest but like but there are also people who are very chill some from the young generation who got married and raychel about it do you know any of these people personally yeah are they emotionally in a good place yeah okay yeah they are in a great place that piece yeah yeah and I think that comes from a very good space of mind like yoga and meditation well let's get to the next offer but what are your thoughts on this no


next offer but what are your thoughts on this no what are you okay with like in a relationship would you be okay with the physical physical treatment fidelity no because like that's that's how I've been brought up those are my ethics but I don't judge anyone because I'll tell you I'll tell you even with me like personally in a relationship I'm very loyal yeah but if I ever date somebody who is okay with being open I'd probably be not so okay with it in the beginning but maybe I'd come around you know because I I feel like as human beings we're always learning and evolving yeah we might get there one day yeah no no I I I get Bombay I've grown up in this city so I understand the mentalities that go on in the city and each to his own yeah for me at the end of the day I feel like if you have a strong set of ethics that you've been brought up with that you believe in and you're following that and you're happy


believe in and you're following that and you're happy following that if you yourself at peace then that's what matters just for me it's like I've been brought up in a very old-school way like an old-school guy loved in an old-school way if I love someone I love them with like everything I have everything I do is for that was here you were telling me I've been brought up for 17 years of my life in Kerala we're gonna get to that okay but can I tell you something about this drug culture because something Abby just happened now with the whole current post the video and I felt really bad video you talking about current post a current had a party at his house there was Becky and Shahid and Varun and like a lot of people and the USA there was Deepika and Shakuni Batra and Ranbir and Pigman beer was there I think I don't know III on booze away I was there all these people and there was these common it was a video and


and there was these common it was a video and they were probably drinking or like I know what they were doing what they want to do they're adults and B I mean we I mean I understand the loss of the country but it's a chill media off like people having fun and they were like slammed for like then eyes looking red didn't like they were like being stoned drugs karai and all of that stuff and some Emily slammed them on Twitter saying like these are drug related Bollywood and all of that stuff I get very concerned when like when you just slamming industry but because this is the perception right it's just like a massive orgy on MDMA or something like that but it's not and like I'm okay with like if people are doing a couple of things do relax because they have like 20 hour shifts sometimes and it's like we'll be accomplished yeah people who've like worked their ass off to where they are today yeah I also I want to add one more thing to


I also I want to add one more thing to what you're saying oh definitely people have this negative so from the perspective of someone in the media industry do to reach the top of wall you'd forget the top even reach the top 30 people in volume you need to be a hustler in life you need to be in a positive way an opportunist yeah you need to be a great Network great communication skills you can't settle at just one hit movie yeah so you're perpetually a workaholic you know for life yeah all these guys are incredibly hard-working and it's not just the actors the top directors yeah producers yeah the very fast thing goes okay and that's why not everyone makes it in Bollywood yeah you can be good-looking you can be a great dancer you can have a sexy body yeah but then you need that x-factor which some people consider a dark extra that beasties everybody has what a good body and good looks but that X Factor's what sets you yeah that too yeah obviously


Factor's what sets you yeah that too yeah obviously I mean that that X Factor is just like a mix of a lot of things I feel and like these days I mean a lot of things are coming to please I mean casting is a big thing has become like a lot more channeled and systematic and all of that but then even if you do that one movie where you've been casted it's not like people are sitting there wanting to cast you again and again unless you so good and that's been such a big launch and even for like so you should know that a launch happens as a launch when a launch is happening they have like three movies planned it's not like one movie because it's very important that you have this one movie and in the next you're in like six seven months you should have your next movie but he's announced because otherwise people forget you so it's very important to be like out there and be tenuously working yeah yeah the spotting help you get Carson just


yeah yeah the spotting help you get Carson just parting help you grow your network in Bollywood you are I mean it it helps you be seen right okay because you are see it's it's all about mission I really want to believe that this is an industry based on merits and all other it's not okay it's an industry that that likes working with people they know they like and they like yeah so party is this P see I'm not seeing then you go party or whatever I'm just saying chill also it could be chill situation of not seeing go get drunk and sleep with someone it's just about being visible and you feel like you've made struck up a conversation with that like I imagine you are an actor and I'm a costume director we made at a party we have a cornice me we hit it off and I I feel like I like your vibe and tomorrow I'm casting for something I'll be like I like it's like I want to work with him because I might have been


want to work with him because I might have been working for a month might as well like the guy yeah so that's the whole thing it's not I mean again like people I think Oh party me Jackie you know bath guru Mukhi bath go home with it's not that I mean there are people who does that also I have no problem whatever part you want to take mistake but it's about I mean it's good to be seen yeah my next question do you Rena is just give me three really controversial spicy stories you are like one Janani you like give me three stories with with or without taking names that's up to you okay can you not okay narrow it down for me know like give me like a context to this give me like okay let's let's go do one one one and then give me like context for something like you can be something on the show something at a party is I mean a lot oh yeah could you give me like one okay give me like the wildest story you


like one okay give me like the wildest story you can recall like if I say the wives oh it was a story that pops up in your head that's the first one Wireless you see I can't see again like it's not a see now I this is not really vile for me because see I'm very chilled with casual sex right I mean so obviously like private parties are a scene and large parties yeah they can be house party or even a club for that matter which could be just taken for that party for that night soup you there are people like very close friends of mine who would like move from one person to the other in the same night and which is very sure that I make it sex with one person to the other yeah I mean you can't have sex in the club like you could like make out and move to the other person which is chill and I know about of people who are like married and in like strong like five years six your lace in ships who like comes to


years six your lace in ships who like comes to parties and like a very chilly mm-hm and like I don't know see each to its own right I mean maybe like you're okay with that or like they're not but they still want to do it is there a lot of coke generally more you would cook in uh yeah yeah but like again see it's not like everyone's doing it there are people who do it there are people who don't but like I mean of course no one's like randomly throwing it on the sea this is the idea right like the enter someone's house and there's one on the like the the living-room seat and then one in the dining room and in the bedroom that's on the scene I've seen that also I've seen I've seen parties where I like but I every room someone's noting that has happened yeah but like more like that was more like Bollywood politics like yeah something like that Oh like like the politicians and Bollywood people yeah something like that damn oh


and Bollywood people yeah something like that damn oh so the MLA who you tweeted okay so that's one story that there's like what oh actually at this party this the the one where there was a lot of coke involved there was this one woman now it's this is actually ridiculous for her to see this she is she lives in the u.s. she has come down for this party and she has met a friend of mine Amira the store who's an actor who made junior from school by oh god really yeah but go on shout out to Amy yeah Amy so amy was there and we were at both at this room and this woman is snorting this woman who lives in the US and we will give whatever then like so we don't do it so I was like we were just in the room so chilling whatever so now she uh she didn't know who Amy was so she was like uh what do you do and there was another male actor in the same room okay so there's me Amira and


the same room okay so there's me Amira and this other male actor who's doing really well right now on the web and all of that stuff and she goes to him he's like what do you do you look so pretty you're lovely looking what do you do and she's like I'm an actor she was said oh don't tell me and I was like so she was like but why so easy he's also an actor and just this woman is like but that's different for him and and she was like you could do so much better why would you why would you be actor and I'm like you're an educated woman who lives in the u.s. you can't I mean illiteracy is not a complaint here yeah it blew my mind you know I'm like this is a modern setup contemporary like whatever and you just like and being a woman you like yeah how can you be an actor I'm guessing this is like us old school actor do you not not an actor okay like like a businesswoman Oh probably like


an actor okay like like a businesswoman Oh probably like independent and self made you know crazy are they like physical fights in ball fist fights between guys Oh at least almost at the brink of becoming physical castle see I'll tell you something the there's none in the young generation because everyone's very safe what do you mean safe in the sense see obviously like with social media and phones and cameras and stuff with that no one's doing anything public no one's fighting yeah no one's fighting no one's having a problem because you never know what he'll go out but I'll tell you like I see a lot of my friends are people who are becoming actors are people who are part of very woody call a renowned households in the industry there are fights there that I mean because there are also kids I mean what can you imagine they're like 18 to 22 year old kids I mean there there's one who's like was a very big actor son and they're so there is a club called tryst that


they're so there is a club called tryst that we go to very often yeah and he got enough fistfight or someone on the centre table which is on top you know that that one table which is like in the middle yes and I was like what the hell are you doing like one person takes out a phone this is like yeah so obviously a lot of these fights don't happen because the older one slightly older ones still in the younger group they are very aware of like what they're doing they would never even like drink too much in a place like this you know unless the house party or whatever then - but like it's very like it's very muted it's there there aren't many fights since ever that we plan Miriam yeah but you said the older actors generation has actual fights that to be all heard now that what was that some Sanjay that fight and all we have heard I have no idea I forgot who he somebody slapped oak in his house party likes on my back - yeah


in his house party likes on my back - yeah oh there was a big like proper okay yeah but this I think is a little famous though like I forgot who we flap but somebody is beat up okay and like my third story that I wanna ask you is is there anyone who's going through a lot of emotional trauma just because of the world but hides it like a lot like major mental health issues but like he's hiding it yeah I mean see I mean she would talk about this iself and I'm see I'm really proud of this one person I'm glad you asked me this I mean I would take this opportunity to congratulate Nora I think she's in fabulous and she went through one of the darkest times that anybody could go through in this industry her I think the beginning and the relationship that she was in was not good at all she's spoken about before she spoken on the show but like but I think the way she just like changed it she went through a lot


she just like changed it she went through a lot of it in her career and in her personal life but I think she's like a woman of strength and she motivates me majorly I'm all for people who are not from this place and like has no backing no kind of support and come to this place and like make it on their own I mean that's one reason I really look up to you bro thank you yeah thank you am I going yeah but like see I mean I was gonna say that I kind of did a bit of that but like see I'm not even close to what she has achieved but I mean she really motivates me like before coming here the reason why she's my mind is because I watched an interview she gave and I messed her saying you have no idea how much you've grown and become mature and like you have like you know the things that you say now is because you've gone through those emotional trauma and mental trauma like you went through and like


and mental trauma like you went through and like somewhere like she's also glad that she went through because that probably made her the person that she is today but it's fantastic she's crazy extremely talented extremely hard-working I mean 24 hours is like less for her to work you know so yeah I mean grow as much as I love this conversation I still need a third hard core story so I remember I shot this episode with Richard I and Mallika do I'm richer and mallika people that I know for a while before in a very friendly way we've been in the same group party multiple times so this was like an order no no promotions associated just a very candid chat and like while I really loved Kangana as an actor I'm not a fan of the way she conducts herself in terms of the comments that she makes and like the way she business people in the industry and like just say it's nasty things about other content reason or other I'm not and especially her sister who is just


I'm not and especially her sister who is just just like like I don't know what she's it's just like if Twitter is a dark place she is the black hole that that rangoli channel Twitter needs to be banned the kind of that she sees or that platform is just crazy you can't see things like that about people so I want because return Mallika very openly I mean vocal people I wanted to get an opinion on this because I felt like if you're a strong actor a strong woman in the scene doesn't mean you have to like step on other people in the industry you can be a great actor have opinions on a lot of things but that doesn't mean you to stand on like other people is industry to prove that I am strong or whatever so I asked them I was like because you are open and all of that you are strong women industry do what do you think of her now my like I said something very Steve finishes she was like but you know you can't ignore past Malala


like but you know you can't ignore past Malala and we just said something very very chill she said like if I had a problem with somebody I wouldn't have a war of words on a public platform I'd rather do it one-on-one I think two weeks later is when we are airing this and of course as PR around the episode there's people who watch the show now I think Malika spoke about her father's a father was accused on me too and I we spoke about that and so she got back to me saying over the two weeks she told me that Rendell if the PR puts it out there will be a big like a lynch mob situation again they'll troll me on Twitter and I don't want it can you take it out from the PR and he said you guys send so as I absolutely so taking one piece of thing out was not a big thing but I did I do that all the time now which I never got back to me her manager was on said PR was


back to me her manager was on said PR was on set we had no problem now obviously she has spoken about Kangana this was in the episode nobody saw this becoming a thing it blew up it blew up rangoli was tweeting against her she was doing I think she probably got scared because she was doing a movie with Kangana called Bunga and miss Ranaut is very famous for cutting out people out of their movies in the edits because she's usually closely associated with the editing of the movie and news days she's directing also so you never know so she I woke up to work this happen in the night because rangoli usually twe sometime sweets in the night and I was sleeping I woke up to a missed call from rich job and I called her back and then she was like so I said I just woke up what's up and then she was like - do you know what happened so I was like no and she was like over and holiest we tell Bella


she was like over and holiest we tell Bella and then she said something on the lines of you've used my friendship to do this and I was like so I was very polite in the whole conversation went on for about anything 2025 minutes she spoke about how I'm I will use my friendship with others in the industry together we had to get controversial things on my show and to get headlines and that's ruining them and I asked Politis I could be I was all of that in that call where I very politely told her that babe you have the equation with me when you could just message me and tell me to take this out your PR was on set who said nothing your manager was on set would said nothing your whole team was there they you never got but we showed this two weeks ago and then she said something on the lines she took Amy's name because she knew we were best friends and she said I'm gonna tell Amy that you're gonna use her friendship to your


Amy that you're gonna use her friendship to your advantage and like make something controversial out of it and that like this is the first call I was doing in the morning I was my bed you know I almost teared up and then I called Amy and I spoke wherever and then this woman started sending me links of like articles online so I called up and this went on like through the day this is like like she was like oh this has come this is come what do you mean what do you mean and I'm explaining everything to her and then in the end I called up a manager and I said listen this is too much your talent like is attacking me so then Jimenez were saying no no she might be like doing it in the spur of a moment she'll call you an apology I said no I don't want any apology just let this go like I just want I'd want no communication with this person so she because for me I was like because sometimes you know they wanna say


I was like because sometimes you know they wanna say things they want to be opinionated opinionated whatever but then sometimes and goes loose then they get very nervous so realm tell me one thing bro does this success in the acting world and Bollywood get to people's heads yeah so I mean yeah like I I don't wanna take this name because I mean that'll become too controversial but I know of an actor who's become fairly big right now who's doing some of the biggest movies working with really good actor directors and actors and all of that I remember meeting this person and I he I he was on the rise yeah and like he had like movie that never worked like 2/3 of them and there's one movie which like blew up okay not the best movie in terms of content lightly sexist or something sorry was the Moody be sexist yeah very okay and then he had like a bunch of movies before that yeah one movie took off okay go on so yeah so and then this person just


go on so yeah so and then this person just change dude and like I have like I know of stories where anyway that's fine like very like so I was actually going for I mean like stupid silly cheap things and he's done at parties and like very like oh yeah very stupid things mm-hm and then like he was known for that you know and suddenly like he has become like this arrogant thing like who who would like look through people at places said like I mean it's I mean it's not about me I mean I don't care I'm not but I know if like from actors that he's working with now and who said like we have no idea what has what has happened to him you know these are actors who but she have a lot more than he has and while I understand that the Bollywood hero is the important thing in a movie but they he's working with some of the actors who've been in the industry for a while now you know and it's done much better work


while now you know and it's done much better work than he has but yeah it changes people but they're also people who are very cool yeah yeah I mean I bring caution yeah I think the key thing fenders I think I would put my money on Mickey Cottle to become I want to say the next a quick one but I think he can be the first Vicky ghoshal yeah yeah I think it's crazy but I also feel like see when I meet like a Shahrukh I feel like I mean see he does it he's Shahrukh Khan he doesn't have to make you feel comfortable he doesn't have to give you his time even if he's giving you like 35 minutes for your show he doesn't have to give you his best he can just sit there and not talk for 35 minutes and I would still be happy I'd be like Shahrukh sat here for 75 I'm happy but he humble grounded gives you his best every time would I have never seen him in a bad mood


would I have never seen him in a bad mood if it in front of the camera or like you know if he walks into you he just makes that I mean here I have to come into my crew and ask them if they had no I mean why would he care right so I feel like when you completely secure yeah there is no like arrogance and like being or like this you know like this one attitude where like where you know that success has gone to your head it I think it's a middle space where you've just suddenly grown and you have no idea what to do with it that happens a lot and then there are people who are like some of these um there is one from a very entitled family in Bollywood which a couple of them are doing fine but like one is their who is so entitled and he is he hits up like people on DM like including bloggers models he's the son yeah he's the son the models like bloggers but I've also three kids amazing he's


bloggers but I've also three kids amazing he's the son and he's the one who's like doing this I don't know how many kids are there but like he's the son there are multiple people but he said because a couple of others I'm sorry yeah I mean couple of others in like it's a form of saying no I like whatever way of seeing then we're this podcast is not called a ending Reynolds career okay then it'll blow your careers already save because one of the most intelligent people on social media yeah you keep seeing they know but like sometimes I see these things I feel like I'm not good yeah but this guy he is like heats up these people and he wants to sleep with all of them and actors also who are like in their nasal stages in the industry or whatever and he really feels like because he is from there they must sleep with him got it and I've heard this from multiple people and he feels like calm and he gets like upset if they


like calm and he gets like upset if they don't see for the meal where how can they not sleep with me mmm re have you seen yourself people would have sanded it's not like money's not the only thing yeah coming back to the positives of Bollywood Shahrukh Khan man yeah you said how he's humble you said how you know he carries himself with positivity everywhere yeah on a personal of Duty someone win so ask me a lot yeah there's certain people who I study in my life one of them's were art Kohli another one's someone like Siddhartha Roy Kapoor someone estaría Shah Rukh Khan so - yeah and try imbibing pieces of the personality dude the way that guy carries himself into rooms way he carries himself on screen yeah oh man like I completely get what you're saying in terms of his magnetic yeah and also you understand why life has allowed him to grow to that pedestal yeah like if he flops in every other movie after


yeah like if he flops in every other movie after this people will still remember him as the super hit hero yeah that's what he's been able does yeah and you can't even say that about like people who actually who are doing well continuously now like 10 years yeah you know but you'd say that about Shahrukh Khan when an entire generation looks back at like 2000 to 2015 they'd be like okay those are Shahrukh SEOs and no one else's yes but what is what is like the most interesting thing for you wearing um Shahrukh when comes far oh yeah so a style but you said that you and by black qualities from different people right so what did you take from Shahrukh okay I'll answer your first question what's the most interesting thing is that he's been a low-key struggler not too many people know about it yeah yeah he's made it big late in life relatively later okay and in terms of what I take from him what I is glass hmm as in there is something called


I is glass hmm as in there is something called new money and something called old money in the world yeah new money is why you suddenly become rich overnight and you don't know what to do which is yeah what you're saying about that young actor who's had one hit film and what happens to a lot of people old money is when your family's had money for two three generation and you're brought up in wealth you're brought up amongst wealthy yeah you don't show off you don't you go out hunting for things you're very comfortable and secure in who we were Shahrukh Khan doesn't have old money he's big he's new money but he's kept his head old Mia that's what I take yeah yeah and speaking of Bollywood know this is not something I know for sure but there is this whole controversy theory that apparently success went to Govinda's head okay and going there's also someone who the whole generation has looked to my entire generation has looked up and but can I


entire generation has looked up and but can I tell you one thing right before we get into this yeah because you mentioned I mean we did talk about like I did talk about like a few people in the industry like we've done stupid things and tough things but I'll tell you when you talk about these people who I said like do these things or whatever for me they don't even make the industry for me like for me while there are like negative things it's also an industry off like Shahrukh right I mean these are people who make the industry for me I'm like this Deepika who's doing monumental work but like whose chain though like the way this industry functions right he's you're the first one to be on a poster of a huge budget movie like but Mahmoud so I mean this is what makes industry for me like but then like these other like little children do people like were making stupid decisions I mean they give the industrial bad name yeah I mean I mean unfortunately we just like the


yeah I mean I mean unfortunately we just like the negative part of it gets highlighted a lot more yeah but that doesn't I mean for me these are not even like big parts of the industry these are just like I don't know Rodin's need to be killed yeah but coming I was fine haha but coming back Govinda Govinda what do you know about go in there like do you have any dope on go in the I heard this very like interesting thing recently that apparently he said in some interview that he was offered avatar oh right do you hear that yeah and James Cameron consulted with him about so movie and apparently he said no to the project because he didn't wanna put color on his body he didn't want body paint here this is just the stupidest thing that you could and I feel like if you are if you're a star of that capacity that like you're saying that you've looked up to him now he was not a part of my childhood because I grew up in


part of my childhood because I grew up in Kerala and like I mean the first time I was introduced to Bollywood was like DDLJ and Kabhi Khushi Kabhi Gham that I watched in college and stuff downloaded from torrents given her pen drives and all of that stuff but Govinda was not like a part of my childhood but like I know the kind of crease that is and how Byron looks up to Govinda and he's I mean tries to imbibe qualities of him in his performance sometimes and all that stuff and I get that but I think if you are at that stature I think you need to conduct yourself in a very respectful way you can't do a movie like Friday that he did oh my god I went for the screening of that movie it was just like I have no IDE I left in the interval hmm and I said like I had to go down to get something and I just left because this I mean you can't be like in that stature you can't be this


be like in that stature you can't be this like sleazy I mean you can be playing whatever character in a movie like that where you're playing a sleazy character trying to hook up with like an underage looking girl I mean it's just a stupid decision to make and I wonder why people make these decisions you know you know man ystos own no go and uh I don't I don't get what happened you know for growing up and seeing him you know do you really love go in that right I mean you don't roll it more no no man like I I like I completely get what you're saying also I'm not very involved in the whole body I'm not in the movies and oh yeah at this stage of my life growing up watched a lot of movies yeah and I just don't understand it scream I would love to you know have a conversation with him one day and ask him you what's up like you know what's up in life I want to ask him what


what's up in life I want to ask him what happened yeah I wanna ask him more time yeah I know I know what you figure okay but let's tell me something you know said you were not into Bollywood didn't like the movies that much but do you like someone in Bollywood do I like as in like do I look up to someone no like do you find someone cute I mean I should ask you this question because I mean that's my vibe do I should ask you yeah go for it I've said this on your show you have always won if you this is true yeah I've told her this yeah thank you for that did you like tiger in something yeah I am probably collaborating with her own something no no but this so again she's okay basically and we were giving some dope guys he's having with Ananya I'll give you some context when you're from the same school which is me and Anya Oh a school has a certain culture and when you meet another person from a


certain culture and when you meet another person from a school which is the Dramani international yeah you have a deep way but that wasn't immediately yeah so I've always had this thing that we learned up collaborating in saying that I do find very cute and I find a very intelligent and I think she's one of those people who's using a fame for something good so really like on anyone a real look up to her oh you spoke about her BSR activity yes yeah I saw this correct so positive she's a cool girl yeah I really like her yeah I met her I think so what am i hold on bro I've got to ask before speaking Madonna because I know she's gonna be the answer to my next question Oh name two guys and two girls in Bollywood that you'd put your money on in the long-term you'd be like okay these people have big potential I know an inner pond is one of them so let's kind of just put her out of the question and she's also


just put her out of the question and she's also someone I would pick because I know how I know her I mean I love you Anya yeah so but other than an Enya which to other girls would in that bracket which two other guys would be put in and you would want people who are already in the industry who've made the debut okay so can I can i name one person who's just coming in November sure so there's this girl what Alya for any serve Allah who is pooja baby's daughter hmm incredible talent I'm like wow I mean she's one of my closest friends I mean also I'm in a really good space in my life right now because a lot of my friends are becoming actors but I like like being launched now the CR next year all of that stuff so I've seen the stuff Alya does and she's incredible so I would definitely and she's coming a movie called Havana journeyman which safe it's a father-daughter movie we're not plugging this movie but like


movie we're not plugging this movie but like wherever but I think she's spent us a big lefto saif ali khan is big laughter cephalic on yeah you becoming a little penny t2 prime this episode yes a safe is the guy range Swamy total self in school engine because I have I have a bit of a self look like a little Hampton tightly yeah and that's also the guy I'm like the Saif Ali Khan character and that guy you are that guy hey guys you know you know it's legit they're like whatever and and the cutest Ruby Rogers telling me that you were like the person who and you told me this that you are the person who would throw parties and have fun and you now you become this yogi yes yeah I really want to break it though it's one of my missions breaking my yogi naziha thank you party with like alcohol drugs in casual sex cool also there all these things that you think happens with parties I'll so


that you think happens with parties I'll so they'll light up the party with my yoga listen I just want to tell you right before this barrage told me to spike your food with that's what well you know your manager has the best interest in right right now you can spike my mind with your four picks oh he's like come back to the ecology major so I'll give you like two - right I think Vicki definitely and ayushman okay Vicki and Ashwin I think are they've already been selected as Oh like the debuts yeah people who you know like who's an ex Ranveer Singh they I mean from the debuts there is no more Mazon yeah cool yeah this I forgot means an only son see now again I'm I'm so see I really love me I although I hated the movie I thought it was a really bad movie to be made I told I've told the salmon is a close of friends so told her that but I thought I mean an is a


her that but I thought I mean an is a good good actor but not do you know that my son was also my junior and so was I really so sorry I've not been in touch with that all I didn't like know how well it's good yeah Mizar and me actually had like a few tips and click cute boy boy Oh tips and first movie I sent him like a best of luck man so we even we have that Bai swipe the chill guy yeah very cool beautiful yeah talented I will be very confident very confident even from time using school yet lot of personality I remember I think Friday the movie leaves Saturday I met him at a party and he said so I said I'll go for the movie tomorrow day after so he said go watch it I've killed it is it cool cool like watch it come down so I mean I don't like the movie but I thought he was kidding like quite good but like again I think from the debuts to Syria I think it's very


from the debuts to Syria I think it's very like patchy yeah I'm quite excited for a few debut are coming up no from the other from the girls I'm really excited about Anna for sure and Sarah OH Clea for easy I yeah I think she's damn good um and like I wanna ask you specifically about her amazing he came here what has me who are a fan okay I'll give you an amazing story my family friends and they say god no actually oh really like as in like a parents knew each other a grand parents knew each okay the age difference between me and Emma so I said I think he never chilled we should swim together at this place called the autos club and we were kids yeah and I remember this dude coming with like crazy hairstyles on later on and like like two years back my boundary we remember that dude that was enemies oh so I'll give you a cute story and again this is a true story so my family has a bad history with first


story so my family has a bad history with first names and yeah like my first name on my birth certificate was gonna be a G table like a t-table a Livadia no no where this right that mean this is where it gets interesting yeah so my mom was a clearly cosmopolitan lady and she was a yo my kids not gonna be called agita and she's like you know what Chhotu son his name's and we're so why don't we name this kid after lecture to son and that run we do not be runway Singh Bhavnani and this one we don't know to be be myself baby that is damn cool yeah so but you should like fall on your mother's feet every ha ha ha can you imagine being called agita and going to school and college and I think a lot of the girls who have ended up dating I've said that you know I kind of half day to do for your name so as it not because R&B singer and me is just a hot name but it is


and me is just a hot name but it is a cool name it really means oh what does it mean man I forgot brave on the battlefield Wow whatever the battlefield me oh yeah and that's something I I kind of have put as a deep thought in my head yeah it's like running on the battlefield you like be brief yeah if you do what you wouldn't do usually in laughs okay run wheezing why has his carrillo taken off what has he done correct other than you know the obvious things that people know like oh he selected the right movies yeah has he has there been a right place right time thing for him is your hard-working guy see I mean of course um now within me is from the from see again he's not a personal friend they're mutual friends there of course but from what I've heard I mean he I don't think admits this or like whatever from the stories that I've heard there there was like her an involvement of money in like launching himself and all of that


money in like launching himself and all of that stuff and now this is like a bird I think nepotistic situation where like you sort of are like involved in the industry through money as a factor and then sort of that's like that's like a thousand or the we were launched yeah yeah correct correct so what's what's made him the new shop yeah so of course like there is like money playing a part in like launching yourself but in in these case I have no problem when there's so much tile at trial but I just feel like it's this crazy energy and like no inhibition and like a very like metrosexual comfort like much is small right like yeah yeah he's like a man like a guy's guy but he's also very like modern and contemporary and like like like what do you call it it's he's not like approachable he is and like he's just like he is a boys boy but he's also like this the sweetheart right he's also duh I mean he he's not like


he's also duh I mean he he's not like he's not Salman Khan who you would be scared of he's like he's like a guy who guys can look up to and like like but he's about to be a Priya yes also very approachable yeah and he does all these crazy things and like it's hard to ignore hmm like it's just I mean I mean I'm ya shot is very good with strategies and like you are just putting this out and like I mean if you're dancing on linking Road then like where will I ignore you yeah other two powerhouses of Bollywood currently like Dharma Productions and Yash Raj in terms of I obviously they're the powers in terms of film production yeah but do they control the pawns on the chessboard no no sound like that no not at all I think it's it's I mean see now when you say yes Raj and I'm a production so you are talking about two big organizations right I think it's people I think it's it's


right I think it's people I think it's it's select few people in these current or another - yeah and which is which is very cool I have no problem with that because I think in so many years that they have been in the industry they have earned the right to and they have that power and kudos to them yeah yeah I mean this is like I'd never be this is not I mean not that I want to do any of these things but like it's insane you know I mean for someone who have that kind of power for like you know if like I'm sure if Karan picks up is called picks up a call on somebody and says I want you to do this I'm sure people will do it and I'm sure that's the same case with like a little Chopra who yes charge and of course it's true that they have some of the biggest talent in the country I mean and the basement businessman as well yeah yeah Dharma managers I mean unless you put out a colonic but


I mean unless you put out a colonic but but a Dharma has like a Dharma has Varun and alia and Vicky I mean that's a great decision right a Dharma which only had like the commercially viable like the masih stars now also acquired Vicky and their talent it's Vicky is in-house Dharma talent now who's managed by matrix who usually manages their master ins so there's Vicky there's other days Akshay is Varun alia there is I think Tara Tara is Dharma so stuff like that and yes Raj is Anushka penny-tee ayushman are June all of these people are so but like not down versus row do you get that's not a bit of Lia I don't know go yeah yeah so I mean so there are big important people in both these places but I don't think I don't think it's too big agents these organizations is controlling everything you know I think it's people but they're also again there are also other things like Denise Fijian who's who has Maddock


things like Denise Fijian who's who has Maddock he's making some really cool movies that's also like but I mean it's probably Saudis biggest Dharma because that math comes with that kind of lineage India chars come as the airshow prime that lineage and all that stuff like Lannister and Starks and then yeah yeah Oh G ot reference I get ha ha but yeah ok cool so that was Bollywood I also want to ask you because you're kind of on the Digital side as well you will need digital people even if you tick tock stars you know I've been old heavily for this dog decision I have made but but you basically know the digital space as well yeah web Rose you're like I want to know how our digital people different from Bollywood people like say AB eunuch beer biceps menu for this interview does when you first chilled with us yeah what house and say my project Abu and yeah how is the vibe different from like chillin with like a Bollywood person and you're a


chillin with like a Bollywood person and you're a psychology major bring it down to like the TV show see I mean see I'm not a very like I do each to his own like each person has the one bad yeah I mean see I I can draw differences spin down to it but I'll tell you like for me I'm not an advocate of like you know when people say like because they are from Bollywood they will act a certain way and like because stardom in or other there are people who do that there are people who don't you know I'm sure in like digital space also there might be people who come with like an airy vibe to them and like you know be like oh we all like to think over ever I mean but thankfully I have met four of you guys that I've interacted with b-b-boom and our project and you and Nick I've just heard like the best time we've had fun and I really like the fact that I mean now I don't know if once like


that I mean now I don't know if once like this big boom and like like if you will change and like the way like you want Trajan all of that but like of course with Bollywood like it's a thing to walk around with 15 people right there is no need for that there are people who walk around with bodyguards who no one is clicking a picture with like there is no need but like it's become a thing you need one manager you need one PR you need your makeup style their assistant Lu the difference between digital in Bollywood in Bollywood I think people chase on Rogers in digital even entre entre just gets created yeah yes that's one difference yeah but it's cool but like I like the vibe off digital because I feel like it's a growing space and it might change yeah like once it becomes like I still feel like we're on the growing like the graph but like once it like hits that level now I don't know if will change things or whatever but I really like the


will change things or whatever but I really like the vibe now because I feel like it's a very approachable very chilled out very fun real yeah yeah now my next question to you is kind of not related to Bollywood but it's is this conversation we've had once yeah it's about two people I look up to for the professional prowess KL Robin hardik Pandya yeah after the whole car and George Kontos like I mean of course what I said wasn't appropriate but in saying that um can you like elaborate a little bit how these brothers in like real life because in terms of cricket fan like from a cricket fan K are always in some books considered to the next round Robert paddock Wanderers couple they have successful these guys have huge potential and then we have ticket and every single Indian cricket fan back scale roll hardik Pandya on the pitch like we want them to do well we want to see them by coming in legends of Indian cricket what are these brothers like in real


Indian cricket what are these brothers like in real life because they're close friends of yours yeah yes okay and I met even I mean the first time we've met that only was one controversy because I met sue me k LED and the other one oh yeah who's one of my closest friends because she went to college with me she was my senior there she wouldn't admit it and she's also gorgeous she is beautiful he's single by the way oh yeah but she doesn't do her yoga and so it's not my wife use me don't talk about my best friend but anyway that's fine huh she works out cool one fourth of the game one go on water this person is I thought I was he's a SIA that I am well done there's been my digital self okay cool so needy me krishna krishna wasn't there there was rahul kale and a couple of other friends so we all went to this place in Bandra for coffee that's when I met him for the first


for coffee that's when I met him for the first time and then he when we went out now obviously cricket Bollywood is like in this country it's like the biggest two polls and they got everyone got popped and then the next day they were like okay now this is a relationship because I think after we rotten Anushka I couldn't find anybody so they were like this next but there was nothing we have no conversation there was no like nothing that was going on between their friends from Bangalore mix but like Adak again i met through rahul at one of the parties and but they are very chill people in in real life and I see I mean the only place I disagree with you a little bit because you said it was slightly inappropriate for them to say that but I don't think it was inappropriate at all I'll tell you why because see because I have had personal conversations with harvick I feel like like he talks like this right and I think his brothers we all talk like that


and I think his brothers we all talk like that like there are things that we would see now my the only problem for me is you should be a little careful about where you are seeing this I don't think it was inappropriate you just talked about like how many girls that you've slept with or it whatever like or that you go to a party or that you slept with this one this one this one I mean that I mean you're not seeing that only guys can see this now a girl also on that show like many girls talk about all these things so that doesn't make it exist that doesn't make that doesn't mean that they're demeaning those women they're not saying anything bad about those women are you saying that maybe he slept with these people or like you know whatever there are times when you're having casual sex or whatever which is very cool I mean how can you like that's a big deal you can't like make suddenly like you can't make over there degrading women or


like you can't make over there degrading women or like I mean of course you have to be very careful about what you say in a public platform which is a very big talk show because then obviously people have that space to digest I mean dissect it and people in this country ever in the world have a lot of time and especially with cricket being the gentleman's game and all of that you have to be extra careful so that's the only thing but I really thought they were really : : hot soup well he said no word in it but still got into trouble but like but yeah I think I thought was really chill yeah yeah I mean he talks like this and I'm glad that he was his real self but like just yeah just like to give you the midterm yeah to give you the cricket fans perspective yeah because I think way coming here to different yeah to give you the cricket trance perspective bro and this is also something I've feel as a fitness and lifestyle influencer hmm


feel as a fitness and lifestyle influencer hmm your thoughts actions would you say have a huge impact on young kids right okay so that's where the cricket fan came in and got offended because in our country cricketers are gods so anything or cricketer says it becomes a part of a kid's mindset so they might have said it in our casual fun way must seem a okay like as we say yeah and understand their perspective as Bruce but what they kind of look past is that do dislike 11 12 year old kid who's just coming to terms with his own sexuality any settings in some corner of the country in like a village it's probably listening to that guy's words and saying okay so these guys are chill about you know I'm talking about sex and women so casually even I'll become that casual and then it becomes a case of Chinese whispers of thoughts but I'll tell you something on you yeah now the other thing is we be in the entertainment industry where like


thing is we be in the entertainment industry where like people are actors or directors or like writers whatever and in cricket or sports whatever now when i if i'm signing a movie contract or if i'm signing the indian cricket team contact what do I sign I sign that I will put in all my hard work for to do bin yeah right to win in the sport am i signing a contract to be the role model for the country I'm not right I mean I am in the Indian cricket team because I can play cook it yeah am I like I mean are we put you're lying and putting up yeah this thing is also a curse of being at that pedestal yeah yeah because he I think and I think that people need to understand proxy now it's about censoring content to maybe people who wouldn't understand it and wouldn't in take it properly maybe a nine-year-old child might not get it then maybe restrict the content yeah love that because I feel like you can't make somebody already present


I feel like you can't make somebody already present perfect okay you can't be I mean we all have flaws you know for sure we all talk a certain way but because I am in this industry because I'm a cricketer I'm an actor yeah I have to be perfect mmm I can't be sorry personal treasure yeah it's my I mean it's my personal life I'm talking about it and suddenly like oh you can't talk about it because you're not being a role model but wherever it does I where do I sign up for this in in saying all this the outcome has been that as a cricket fan again you have seen kale and were you affected by it personally no yeah because like I'm I think I have my own my yeah what's it called my my own men - how to process information that's coming at you right yeah that's that's his opinion on things I have my own opinion on things it may not be the case for a 16 year old young cricketer who's like be


a 16 year old young cricketer who's like be trying to become an all-rounder Karthik pointers are wrong yeah and then trying to do everything her thickness hmm in saying that that's why we see where art and honey as like the nation's biggest brands because they've good boys as well and in terms of being a cricket fan both kale and hard they have really stepped up yeah after that they both got really serious about the games you see even more determination and hard dick sighs when he's born he's become a way better bowler yeah I am so happy with the tones that couriers have taken yeah god bless those blows Oh everyone makes mistakes oh I remember I sent her when this whole thing went down and they were being penalized for what they did and all that kale is a very close friend and I know him better than hath ik yeah so I remember I sent him a message saying I know this is a step back but after this if you come back like a


back but after this if you come back like a lion there'll be nothing better what was their mentality when this was going on I mean obviously they took it in the side of the things in all of that they were I mean of course it's not oh it's they were not being a few matches and all of that stuff right or not something that happened got suspended for a while correct but the Warriors in the hearts yeah so I said I mean you know like when you get it's also cool thing right like you get sort of like pull down a little bit and then when you come back like a lion then that's just like really yeah so I said this is what you should be doing so I said well sweet mess and you was like thank you you know yeah so I think yeah I think they did that and I think now they're doing really well I yeah they are and you know if it continues this way I wouldn't be surprised if they become the next captain vice-captain after


if they become the next captain vice-captain after the current generations of like coolly good rohit sharma shaker Dhawan are done I think these two other leaders of the team can I get some guff from you go on because you are like you're see I am very like I'm a little disassociated with cricket go but like I just watch it sometimes so Rahul and what happened between me rotten what is that Rohit Sharma I follow cricket very intensely and I feel it was a lot of media hype growing up man Bharat for two cricket fans if you see them on the pitch they might have been some you know small TIFF which happens amongst any professionals like me a micro front of raju a love more than my own family via Tiff's okay but so it was that yeah when you're playing sported that kind of a level your teammates I of family you see that when you watch cricket as a as a cricket fan you're seeing an entire 5000 matches


cricket fan you're seeing an entire 5000 matches he an entire Test match you see a rose and we're not talk to each other you say oh they play along with each other they've had arguments on the pitch as well like roses one v-rod run out many times but you see the love between them like brothers so it was a lot of media help even if you read the media articles you realise that it's written from a very if I talk yeah yeah fight okay fine so yeah it's that way yeah every single article was written like that and we unfollowed them on Instagram and stuff like that it might have it might be a small TIFF it's blown up way out of proportion the next day that was this dressing room video that came out of Ravindra Jadeja who's another cricketer okay and Rohit Sharma playing a game about Oh guess the creators or Jadeja imitates Kohli and watch our message oh this is my boy were art and we're art laughs in the corner and


were art and we're art laughs in the corner and it's really this next day oh okay fine yeah they all right it's a lot of media hype dude oh that's the curse of being an actor or cricket or that little you know nuggets of negativity in your life amplified correct in the public and that's a power social media that you've got your boy Bo Bice else backing you and you've got the voice of like the youth back yeah yeah so anyway man that was like the interview today hey this is fob yeah al agreed quantity yeah bro one last like super quick question I have and this is what more personal question dude you have like a crazy Network in like Bollywood and like cricket and you know you've reached out like the biggest of the biggest people now I want to ask you because you're a really smart guy you're street smarts are like crazy okay how much of you use your psychology major degree to get ahead in life like how much you use your


get ahead in life like how much you use your communication skills see I think it's more communication skills than reading people lower level not really I'll be very honest I mean see I did three other psychology in Christ at Bangalore and for my parents I was like the happiest thing because they were like you know some kind of doctor he will become the Malu parents they want that's what they wanted but I think I was always good with people you know I and you know sometimes sometimes people ask me is it just like so difficult because you have to be at a party you it's like you're always working you know and you have to talk to everybody and for me that's not the case I'm like this anyway I'm always talking to people I have no inhibition in going up to a person and starting a conversation I'm never like I will wait for this person to come talk to me know why I'm I would I'm the other people's person I've always been a people's person I talk to everybody


always been a people's person I talk to everybody unless I don't want to thank if I don't want to like if I don't like that's a different thing but like I'm very chill with people so you think being a people's person pays off the most in your career yeah in my career at least no in any career bro especially the industry but okay I've worked in like hardcore engineering industries and even that's all yeah of course because teamwork in like you know yeah like working in a group working with people or that's always very important for me it was very important that I mean I never studied journalism I never wanted to be a journalist I'm not qualified to be one I didn't want to be called one because I think sometimes it comes with a bit of a negative connotation because then you sound like this person who's always looking for a story not my vibe I host a talk show which is a very friendly vibe so whatever you call it a poor version of coffee with Carell but


it a poor version of coffee with Carell but you say that I mean not if you got its own vibe like if for people who actually go into the details of it yeah but we can even watch the show they know what like yeah but I get that a lot on YouTube on the comment but that's fine that's fine you talk you're talking to similarly sounding dudes hosting a talk show I'm sure this is the only comparison people can draw but that's fine but but like for me I wanted that friendly vibe and so because thankfully I'm a people's person and I'm good with communication and the language I'm ok with so I'm always I'm always been very good with people and people and like most the friends I've made in the industry in the first place I made them through the show like a lot of the actors who came on the show and they were like oh you're chill guys let's hang you know it was always that yeah we got along like that we met for the first time


got along like that we met for the first time on the show and like today we're doing this because we got long yeah and I think it's always been that but like now a lot of other friends arrive like that now they're becoming active so not so very good space to me because now like I've seen all of it you know I've seen them struggle I've seen them like get their first movie I've dropped them to the airport when they're leaving so now that that special but like yeah you tell me one of the most low key influential guys in the space I want to believe that I have a lot of influence but like I don't know man like it's I think yeah maybe a little bit ha ha ha I'm good with people like you know I feel like I can give good good advices yeah you come from a genuine place also yes yes I mean that's your thank you thank you for this beautiful episode thank you I had fun will you get up yes but we're also


had fun will you get up yes but we're also gonna be doing a lot more because there's a lot more treasure in your head that you are not exposed to the world so yeah you find out I'll be licking all of Reynolds handles down below make sure you follow him will be like in the episode we did oh yeah show and be unique yeah with a bit my boy Nick and my other boy winner so guys see you hope you had fun


booth ghosts something we've not spoken about on the podcast yet and this is a story from my own life something i went through something i haven't spoken about on the internet here goes all my life right from the time i was a kid i'd always look at human presence around me and i'd ask myself is this really all that there is was there some deeper layer that we can't see horror movies entered my life when i was a kid and that answered the question maybe there was something that we couldn't see this is a story about my own house about my own building the house i grew up in had a hospital on the ground floor it was a family-owned hospital of mine and on the third floor was where i lived i was always afraid of the dark even in my own house in the corridor i always felt like someone staring at me if i were alone in any room which was dark i always felt like there was some kind of energy with me staring at me i think all of us


with me staring at me i think all of us go through a phase like that but i feel like i went through a longer phase than the rest of us i couldn't sleep alone till i was about 19 20 years old now back when i was 11 there was this one time i was sleeping next to my mom my dad wasn't at home during that time and this was also a time in my life where i was getting a lot of something called sleep paralysis for anyone who's had sleep paralysis they know that this is one of the scariest things that can happen to you sleep paralysis is a scientific phenomenon where basically you half wake up while you're sleeping so in layman's terms when you're sleeping your brain signals to your muscular system not to move at all it's a way for the body to protect itself basically means your body becomes paralyzed because of your mind so that if something's happening in your dreams you don't move your body in reaction to that dream it's


move your body in reaction to that dream it's your body's protection mechanism but what happens sometimes with people who deal with sleep paralysis is that they'll open their eyes and they won't be able to move their body they won't be able to scream if they want they won't be able to make a sound the only thing that they're conscious of is their own vision and in a very bad case of sleep paralysis sometimes your nightmares also become a part of that experience because your brain becomes confused between the world of dreams slash nightmares and the world of reality so while i did have a lot of sleep paralysis experiences this one is the story of the scariest sleep paralysis experience my sleep paralysis would often include me waking up in my own room i'd open my eyes and i'd see a shadowy figure in my room because i was in that sleep paralysis mode i wouldn't be able to scream or react so the best defense mechanism was just closing my eyes and hoping that sleep