think there are certain terms which it should be kind of cautious of you can always read like venture D's and you'll get to know everything about you know all these terms but I think at the same time you should also respect what others are looking for they should always think about creating a business from a win-win perspective investors are there to make money as well and you basically have to make money for them and having an investor on board is actually a big responsibility because they are believing in you right they're giving you that massive chunk of exactly oh yeah and I mean like it's it's more of a partnership right you they are a part of your or a small family which you are trying to build and and you have to kind of like you know treat them like your own family now once they come on board and believe me it's like once investors are in it investors are not in it just just like you know that giving you money now you do the thing investors also feel


you money now you do the thing investors also feel that they are part of the same journey as well right what Italy is the good investor it the the they become a part of the journey and they're also very emotionally connected like ever since I took money from matrix right which is our investors I never took overrides because I feel that I'm a part of the same family now so I take Ola rights because Vic is a Ola is part of the matrix family right I just feel more associated whenever I use raiser play I'm feel more proud because they're part of the same family right so it's like every company which is there in in their portfolio you just feel a part of that ecosystem yeah and and I feel that it's it's more like that and I think it's it's healthy in that way and it's it's also healthy to respect kind of everyone's interests so you need to make sure that you know everybody is winning in every scenario and yeah it's like a small ways so


every scenario and yeah it's like a small ways so better leave it with everyone just not feeling screwed release yeah exactly that's what mr. AJ stand small AJ bro thank you so much again for coming on the monkey chat hope you had fun for sure yeah so again it is gonna be a recurring Poulsen or recording guest on monkey chat I'm gonna link all his handles down below make sure you follow him any last one-liner for the public take care of your health got it cool so we'll end this podcast which is all about startups probably next time we'll just do one on e I will just do one maybe on VR we'll just do one of these C's and all these topics we will see you later for now cuz we're gonna go and get some gifts for us it's still actually we goin Raksha Bandhan shopping today oh yeah


what's good you guys welcome to another beautiful podcast episode this time featuring shitty dick was kind of known as the face of BuzzFeed India today she's not working with Musti in India she's on the brink of launching her own big social media brand called Sheila Dikshit of course she's one the most intelligent most practical human beings you'll ever meet in your life the whole conversation actually is kind of a clash between my super optimistic outlook on life and her super practical outlook on life we talk and we debate about a lot of topics from body positivity to fat shaming to physical health to mental health and one thing you guys may not know about me is that I also run a mental coaching service it's actually a side business that I'm running along with beer biceps where I help people in their careers I help people level up in life so the whole conversation kind of became a mental coaching session for shifty and through the course of the coaching session she taught me a lot


of the coaching session she taught me a lot of things as well so this is actually one of the most intellectual conversations we've done on this podcast and without further ado I'm going to let you all enjoy the show make sure I'll give this a deep lesson there's a lot to learn about physical health mental health body positivity life positivity and the correct lifestyles things that the modern-day Indian young person needs to learn about desperately enjoy grow through this podcast welcome to another podcast with mr. Ranvir a Livadia hosting mr. sh t dick shade the queen of Indian social media I have not heard that voice before sounds like a radio show I started just yeah I'm totally getting into this whole podcasting zone I feel like a podcaster from inside I'm sure girls love it so some boys too yeah yeah that's right so we're gonna get deep into your mind in this podcast oh we're gonna get deep into the mind of someone who's moved from Kanpur huh okay to eat the


moved from Kanpur huh okay to eat the whole carrillo to like a new level but we're also gonna get deep into the realms of mental health and the realms of possibly spirituality because that's the conversation we just had before the podcast and all obviously we're gonna do it in the fun Shrishti that should be yeah it'll just be like self-deprecating jokes and some sad facts about my life but also jokes moves so nobody enjoy keeping it real I feel like you want the smart human beings I have met in the social media world that's meet more people you-you-you know you're smart and you keep like trying to like underplayed with me I am smart but oh I try to not give myself too much credit because then I would be like too full of myself and that's a dangerous place to be in can I give you credit for something yeah go ahead so when you left BuzzFeed India I felt like the heart and soul of BuzzFeed India like oh stop it you're right little


BuzzFeed India like oh stop it you're right little bit you are right maybe I don't know like I feel like a lot of what BuzzFeed India became on YouTube happened because I was yeah big part of it so I wouldn't say I took away the heart and soul but like yeah it was a loss to the company I would like to believe yeah and it was it was time also like it was time for me to go and explore new things yeah why did you leave again to bring your career to like a new level hmm oh that's what you think you know I had worked at BuzzFeed for three years and I began as a Bollywood and entertainment writer so my first job there was to write posts about celebrities in Bollywood and then very organically as BuzzFeed as a company pivoted to making videos for the Internet I thought that because I had a knack for acting back in college and I loved to perform back in school so I just floated this idea with my higher-ups and I


just floated this idea with my higher-ups and I said I would like to act and maybe like write my own videos and also let's see how that goes and then just Larry organically casually not promising any like big numbers or anything we just started doing that and it took off like it just even I was shocked by the response we got yeah and you've built a personal brand alone and yeah I like then there was Instagram and there was Facebook how many followers do you have on Instagram on Instagram currently 173 gay I guess yeah like I also when I started a lot of other people around me also started and currently they are at like 500k 600km million but I don't feel very upset about that because I have understood my pace of creating and being like I would much rather have peace of mind than like big numbers what your mental health status like right now oh we were talking about this before I think it's like very divided it's many like my mental health is in many places I feel very calm and


health is in many places I feel very calm and certain about certain aspects of my life and very shaky and uneasy about certain other aspects what do you shaky about oh just the future man like I know you like about the world around you and me like we are like the earth is crumbling like dying yeah and like also not just the environment like there's terrorism and there's like crime and people are dying willy-nilly like sometimes I wake up in the morning and I think that this could be my last day so what have I done in this world have you always thought like that since you were a kid not since I was when I was a kid I used to think that I was the center of the universe and everything is revolving around me and I will kill it in my life and I will become why do you think you lost that along the way because I became a real human being in the reboil who was out of the cocoon and then realized that wait a minute


the cocoon and then realized that wait a minute sweetie you are not the center of the universe actually a lot of other things are going down and bad things are going down so like you never know anything for sure so like I think you want the smartest people I've met in my life it's good to keep that kind of you know like that wonder and love for yourself because I really envy I genuinely envy people like you but why do you think you lost that for real like did was it people around you I don't know it was just like from like crushing self-awareness and mix to it self-loathing I feel how do you get that self-awareness I'm telling you just by getting out of Kanpur coming to a big city like Delhi and then from Delhi coming to move because when you are growing up in a small town you are maybe the best at everything and then you mistake yourself to be the best at everything everywhere in the whole world God then you go into the world


the whole world God then you go into the world and you find out that everybody is just as good as you are maybe better and some people are like untouchable then you realize your true votes in the world and you start questioning yet like yourself forth and who you and what do you want and what is your purpose all the depo questions which I started thinking about some time around when I was in college where I was surrounded by brilliant genius people and peaches and just everyone everyone was I felt better than me for some reason even though everybody else around me was kind of telling me that no you are also awesome yeah so for me like it took very long to realize that for like someone else to be the best at something doesn't mean that I am bad at something like when I'm sure out of all those people you're the most famous one now no I guess not maybe not successful but like like number wise if you want to see like visibility wise if you want to say that yeah my


visibility wise if you want to say that yeah my face is known by more people like in that group not everybody had the same aspirations and career path as I did like some people are teaching and some people are like they have jobs at corporates and all yeah so like because of my job I think I have become this I didn't really like do much for it but if you didn't do it then who did it I don't know man there's some like gap between what I have actually done and what I think I deserve in life like it's a weird strange feeling of I don't deserve things that have happened to me like I was listening to this song somewhere and oh there was one line which says there's so much love it feels like a lie which is like a lot of times there is some disconnect between me and this person was online and I feel like I am NOT this person and it's like a scam that I am running where I'm lying to a bunch of people


running where I'm lying to a bunch of people and being like all cool and role model II know well actually I don't have an idea what so everything so ok can I give you my perspective on the season so there's three things all right yeah that like come to my head firstly I feel that your mentality and the thoughts that a human being has generally are primarily dependent on two aspects one is like the way your parents are spoken to you throughout your childhood you know growing up okay so I feel like my mom almost always positive with me and told me that do not to super sorry like it was always at that take you sat in my head yeah always and that's the mentality of God that you were like yes I am so yeah I think that's just how child thinks what are your parents say that becomes your reality yeah I would to that there is a counter-argument that even my parents treated me like pretty much exactly that brings me to my second point yeah which is


that brings me to my second point yeah which is why you in Kanpur with your parents that was your mentality of like yeah but your second important aspect of life which affects your mentality is the people around you yeah in your adolescent you're making your teenagers and your young adult yeah yeah so between the ages of like say 1625 the people who you made and the people who you hang out with the most effect or mentality heavily yeah and I'll give you a perspective and this could be slightly controversial but I'll tell you it's an honest social media perspective you know so varis myself my co-founder one monkey my entire team of like 40 motivated kids monkey I feel like we select people based on their positivity levels okay we only select positive people in this office okay and everyone feels like generally a lot of the people at BuzzFeed have like a negative outlook on life mm-hm and they put it out a lot on social media okay and even someone like you dude you're like


okay and even someone like you dude you're like the face of BuzzFeed huh but I feel like if you had connect people around you telling you you're both huh and sometimes you need a mirror in front of you to tell you sometimes you need validation from yeah I feel like I feel like this then your young twin like your early 20s huh you've not got people telling you that ratio the and I I want to tell you that from the outside when we're looking at your brand when I see Shashi that shit's content pieces on Instagram or your stories my immediate thought is do this girl is so smart it's such fresh human okay you're so watchable which is like very difficult only people who watch will grow on social media that's true so you're really your actual worth is like up here yeah but you constantly think that you're like I died one person so I have a question about this whole positive and negative outlook what is the deal with like why are people so obsessed with positivity I


like why are people so obsessed with positivity I don't get it dude because I feel like that's kind of the purpose of life man like you've got to make the best of what's given to you and that's the kind of focus I have always had in my career yeah that obviously you're gonna be beaten down my life dude everyone's these lows in life yeah and half my job is like oh I'm a motivational speaker yeah I'm a motivational content creator I study like really successful people yeah the one common trait I see in all of them is that they have this constant kind of urge for positivity where I'm negative things happen to them they just take that hit and they move forward they don't focus on the negatives then I feel like the differences not positivity and negativity it is optimism and pessimism what's the difference between because like with positivity there is some kind of understanding that you are always happy yeah and negativity is like you're always mad about everything which is not the


like you're always mad about everything which is not the case yeah what I would aspire to be personally in life is to be more of an optimist because I currently feel a little cynical about the world and like everything and I feel that that's because you've worked at BuzzFeed no that's the perception of BuzzFeed from the outside Indian generally in social media because because you're now I mean BuzzFeed is always like crying about some problem or the other and not only problem and y'all but buzzy doesn't talk about the solutions they just talk about the problems like give me one example for example the hole okay dude I have grown up as an obese kid huh okay and I have been fat shame more than you can imagine oh yeah and I understand I actually really appreciate bus we put for putting out that fat shaming related content yeah yeah but at the end of it dude what's the solution is the solution just that listen it's okay to be fat which is fine okay which i think is


be fat which is fine okay which i think is it's fine to be overweight okay but in saying that there has to be a solution to that whole problem in the solutions do do something about it because it's fine to love your body the way it is but also know that ten years from now if you keep your body the way it is right now it's gonna start deteriorating rapidly mm-hmm I agree with you RAM of a solution oriented action-oriented person I agree with okay like most of my audience yeah yeah so if there's a problem yeah tackle it don't just talk about the problem analyze it glorify the problem but then sometimes talking about the problem normalizes it and helps people who are going through the same problem like specifically with body positivity in fact she I mean wasn't her purpose a lot of times it's not just that people are not doing anything about it sometimes people are doing a lot about it but still failing because of various reasons we may not know yeah so our


various reasons we may not know yeah so our narrative or BuzzFeed big narrative or conversation is that it is okay to fail it is okay to be the person you are for sure because you are not one island unto yourself you are a product of everything that's happening for sure I I feel it's okay to fail and it's okay to be where you are yeah but it's also important to constantly strive for going forward in life huh I feel like our big motto will be to tell people to love like try to love yourself love that would mean like I have to be comfortable with the body I am in right now I can't keep like maybe that works for you as an individual but I am saying for some other people constantly chasing some goal may not work and it just may be unproductive you know optimism is the outcome of a busy mind and that's something I strongly believe and I believe that a lot of the problems I see around me like I go to colleges


I see around me like I go to colleges all over the country usually the kind of slightly pessimistic kids are the ones who aren't busy hmm so am i my motto in life is just keep your mind busy and you don't Holly the mark Shaitaan exactly you don't you don't have to I mean it's good to accept yourself the way you are to love yourself do we go when I was like oh B's and I should look at myself naked in the mirror okay nice I bend down and always see like a roll of fat on the side okay and I just kind of feel like okay that's a little bad because there were these girls in school who would see me once you're just I mean a lot of fun of my man boobs and like my stomach and fun yeah yeah I was in a co-ed school my god okay I was in like a super preppy school so it's like very acidic yeah but I used to feel bad but my immediate thought was hold on


to feel bad but my immediate thought was hold on what can I do about this huh and I feel that what can I do about this concept is what has gotten humanity this far in life we're trying to colonize Mars today it's because you know we're on other thing missing okay what can I do about is how can I go forward and that's one one more reason first I used this was just my mentality in life but we're adding me of lightness mentality to our business as well yeah and we select people who have that mentality in their minds and we feel our business has grown because of the people we selected where everyone is just constantly trying to get to one level hi Oh everyone doesn't have to run and work like crazy hard like Viraj and me yeah but they have to keep the mind busy they have to be problem-solving all the time and not not problem solving all the time huh but just do your duty well okay you know do you have to constantly do things you


you know do you have to constantly do things you can't like sit and just analyze if there is a problem and there's a ton of problems in business and in life yeah the mentality should be like wait what can I do about this rather than okay that's a problem and I'm feeling okay about the problem now maybe I'll give you a counter of how I feel sometimes about things in life is I would get like I would look at a problem and I would think about the problem which means that I would sit with that problem and analyze it not always will I arrive at a conclusion where I know that there is a solution to that problem and I have to do like this one particular thing to solve it but just understanding that okay that there is this problem we are gonna work on it there is no rush to like for just get done with it and move on to for sure the next problem so my question is and coming back to the BuzzFeed video yeah then why not attach like at the end


video yeah then why not attach like at the end of the video and saying it's okay to be like body-positive it should have been like the body of the video it's like the hang of the vid ha the end of the video I feel always should have been a solution huh you're taking a problem and you're stopping it only up till but when we don't know doesn't know the solution so - like I'm double air quoting this right now yeah everybody knows that the solution to quote-unquote being fat is to quote unquote lose weight which is so reductionist and so simplistic they're like it's it's a complex problem like yeah there's a lot of other factors involved like mental health privilege like what is the background of this person what kind of life do they have what kind of people are surrounding them what are they going through on a daily basis it can be very different from you and a person to like another poster person so I feel like the solution is always there you like you always


like the solution is always there you like you always know what to do the hard part the struggle is to actually do those but you know for a teenager watching that video huh okay when you end the conversation at listen it's okay yeah that sits in their head as like the final call to action when the actual I would disagree with that I feel like I feel like all to action becomes that you need to love yourself the way you are instead of chasing some ideal that someone else in the water set for you and I'm not I'm not saying you should lose weight for the visual spectra yeah I am saying that you should just be in shape because that means you're respecting your own body I'm saying go do whatever you want and makes you happy that is the band goal and if you do so if there's someone who just agrees that okay dude you know what I love my body the way it is I'm not gonna do anything about it huh in 15 years from now when problems


about it huh in 15 years from now when problems start creeping up huh okay that's when they'll realize and then they'll regret it like 15 years of their life and I'm saying this because at the age of 16 I had a gallbladder go I had a gallbladder removal because I realized also my gallbladder cause all my life I was told I'd listen it's okay to be the way you are okay and then I got like this operation which is the most painful thing I've ever gone through and I got a wake-up call like very early okay okay okay I just feel like our generation hasn't got wake up calls early ha but if you don't take care of your body and I'm not saying you do you get like a six-pack taking care of your body and your mind is the one we get for all the time for someone who's not taking care of their body huh okay it is important not to push them you know diet but it is important to tell them that listen


diet but it is important to tell them that listen love your body yeah the body positive yeah at the same time keeping in your head that one year from now you want to be in a different position that you are right now in order to take care of the version of yourself 10 years from now hmm that's important because when diabetes creeps up when arthritis creeps up hospital bills are going to increase then your mental health is really gonna go for a toss yeah then your family life is affected yeah you your self-image is affected yeah your ability is affected so I feel that mental health is very important and I'm a mental health influences well I talked about this I talked about being positive you know all that stuff but we're in this scenario I feel like you are talking about a person who just eats their feelings and like there are no other medical issues to this hypothetical person like what if this person is trying very hard to lose weight but can't like what does that person do okay now this


can't like what does that person do okay now this is me talking as the trainer like when I use them people I genuinely feel it is not difficult for people who lose weight huh but it is difficult to get yourself to take those steps huh okay if you literally don't touch desserts huh okay if you literally don't eat any processed food and you just do these two things huh if you wanted to get one level higher just keep your body active for 20 minutes everyday just walk around your house take take a look around building okay you'll see your body changing we're not training turn my back when I was a physical trainer yeah that's all we did we didn't focus on diets we focused on a bit of exercise right so we car and just cut off your desert cut of your process being mindful of what you're putting in your body basically when you're eating don't eat like while watching TV don't just eat like you know and like a restaurant and talk to the people D


and like a restaurant and talk to the people D completely in your food okay be aware of what you do and just avoid desserts and a word process food as much as you can don't even cut it out yeah eat it like once a week that's all you have to focus on and you will see your weight rapidly dropping yeah so my argument as a personal trainer is that I've trained maybe like 50 60 people in my life almost all of them were for weight loss and we just did these two changes and you see actual quantitative results you see 5 6 kgs dropped like in two months so weight loss per se is actually that easy and I feel it's like complicated by the world people have this image of weight loss that's really difficult weight loss isn't difficult it's difficult to get yourself to not buy that packet of chips or that packet of noodles you not have that you know soft drink do not drink alcohol those are the difficult things okay but this knowledge needs to be put out


things okay but this knowledge needs to be put out there okay but then let me pose another scenario to you what if this is a person who according to you is overweight but is fairly healthy very happy with the way they are dress however they want date however they want eat whatever they want and are fairly healthy but to you they are overweight then like do you think that this person needs to change themselves each to his own but I'll tell you what I've gone through the pain of that gallbladder removal huh and if you don't take every body in the long term you're gonna want one of those times is by the way is taking very a lot of care of their body okay they love their body okay I'll tell you what like when you visually see someone huh you can almost tell who's gonna have like long-term health problems and who isn't you're not gonna have any long-term eye problems Wow dude you're not high of cancer like likes fire obviously if you if you like


like likes fire obviously if you if you like don't take everybody completely then yes but if someone is obese per se you can almost predict like what's gonna happen in the long term okay I have something to say which I mean but a lot of people who I've been through like a lot of body shaming in life and end up like losing weight come back with like some kind of fat phobia which is like like this is the most painful hardest part of your life that you don't want to go back to yeah and you're almost like I will put a bully scared about like you're like this is bad and I want to tell everyone in the world that this is bad like nobody do this nobody do this which is not the same space everyone is a Taurus coming from yeah so I feel like in that aspect the larger conversation then still needs to be about you need to be okay with who you are first yeah then work on yourself yeah for sure you need to understand who you


yeah for sure you need to understand who you are baseline bottom what are you as a person yeah what are your likes and dislikes what do you care about yeah and then from there go on to okay how do people look at me because even this idea of overweight and like okay then mine is a body stand by my argument is nothing what looks I feel that if you're the skinniest human being in the world if you're the fattest even being the world you should love yourself because yeah okay but at the same time my argument is not about the visuals what what's happening inside your body got it okay so and if we understand that there might be people like this but I've trained a lot of people in fact I've made a whole career out of like training people online technically okay like through Bo Bice epsilon and 99% of the people who are able to lose weight will always come and say thanks bro you know you've you've genuinely like happy and I've been there I've been there myself


happy and I've been there I've been there myself where I have wanted parts to lose weight when I met the correct kind of trainers and I when I met the correct people who educate me when they got me to my health and fitness goals it is one of the most beautiful feelings in the world is one of most relieving feelings in the world for 99% of the people who walk that journey so understand that there might be one percent of people who like be like dude you know they develop a fear of like weight loss but I also feel for that 1% they are surrounded by the wrong people okay because a lot of your own mentality is decided by the people around you okay okay and if the people around your constantly saying and you don't do good on you you know you took care of your body good like you're happy right now healthier right now good on you those thoughts are in your head but if the water and that person is also telling you that you weren't good


person is also telling you that you weren't good enough before no I got that you had to lose weight it comes not it's not good enough it's not about you being good enough before it's about well anytime a person is telling you this trust me and we they don't give a about what you are on the inside or what's going on in your body they are about what you look on the outside milik now you look better now you fit some standard that was given to us by someone else and now you are great okay now we can get on board with this new great looking person yeah and it is clearly telling you a terrible truth which is that I didn't like you before because I mean that's the way to perceive it that may not be the case for like every human being that's the way you're perceiving it I'm telling you as someone again who trains people who's been surrounded by the world of fitness if a fit person sees another person who's latched on fitness wagon


person sees another person who's latched on fitness wagon you're genuinely happy when you see a slightly overweight person zooming in a gym Oh an actual person who's motivated about the fitness lifestyle will be very appreciative of that person you'll have to be an absolute dick to go into any a Moute a gym make you it you know so you are saying that people walking out at the gym so this just like struck up a new thought in my head which is like all the activewear brands in the world for like maybe just some exceptions may be there but like mostly are centered around thin people already who are already beautiful and thin working out at the gym so in that scenario the person who is quote-unquote overweight or photon code not like like it's whatever beautiful-looking or whatever will feel very like a shame to go to the gym which is like according to you the me was not not all of them it depends completely on the person some people will look at that and say that's


person some people will look at that and say that's why I want to be which is how I've grown up which is I think what Rodgers has grown up with like the camera person he was base can he had like pinched aiming problems okay and I remember booth was used to watch like boss a bodybuilding back in the mean or say even just general sports and you know that's the body I want so it depends completely on the person some people are just again they have an aspirational mentality and some people have a victim mentality and those aspirational versus victim mentalities are decided by the people you choose to surround yourself with or your life experience or your Oreo oil to be a bear yeah yeah or like some other things also like there has to have like the has to you're a product of everything that happens when who you around you and your own choices so I think the key here yeah is to cut off the negative people from your life agreed that I and then well but then I


life agreed that I and then well but then I feel like you you're yours and mine understanding of what negativity is a little my my understand your negativity is again someone who's not solution oriented one that's like the core of it and to again someone who who's is like cynical who finds problems in parts you know if there's like a potential path that will lead you to some kind of growth hmm even if it's a risky path and then there's one dude or dudette you know like name this is not it's not worth the effort that those are people I want to cut up and up consciously cut off those people in my life huh like given sshole saying that you sense the energy of a person before they speak to you yeah do you agree with that little bit but like I'm also wrong about it like that's that's done will be able to go prejudice or like I'm judging someone just based on what they look like me know not what they look like like the


like me know not what they look like like the moment they start having a bit of a conversation to you the way huh like they talk to you okay like for example when you mean what is my energy you want me to tell you no I'll tell you your energy okay your Energy's really intelligent analytical huh okay that's like two things and P you can see people's energies through the social media stories so even on Instagram you can't really tell how much about a person through that posts yeah and tell a lot about the person through their stories and I'll tell you and this is the career coach in me speaking I feel like right now HD addiction at this stage of your career huh one I feel you have the potential to become one of India's like biggest brands in the long term okay I see you as like an Ellen DeGeneres kind of person for India 20 years from now but you need to go back to your camper mentality okay feeling like yeah because because trust me I just feel like


like yeah because because trust me I just feel like you've not had enough people in your life tell you that and maybe I have not had therapy also which is actually the fact don't you think the therapy also does the same thing where they're like they giving you a mirror yeah like your mind yeah but at the same time giving you solutions yeah and most I feel like a lot of therapies you arriving at those solutions yourself instead of someone else giving you that's the me like just like do this yeah it's like because a lot of times when you are prescribed so this is a question I have for you a lot of times you prescribe things to someone but like the same thing doesn't work for everybody no because to each their own legs one method works for you it may not work for everyone so then as a coach not not fitness but like a mental health coach or or or someone like that how do you find the confidence to guide people okay this is also a leadership concept yeah when


people okay this is also a leadership concept yeah when you're leading any kind of team okay like give me a sports team a give me business the core of leadership is to understand each person like deeply you're not gonna lead by just putting out a general kind of solution I have to do that as a youtuber because if my general solution is helping 90% of the population then that's what should be put out its majority wins but if I'm doing like a one-on-one session first I'll try understanding should be they should like inside out okay and I'll understand what your insecurities are what ambitions you have for yourself what your past is hmm okay and then I'll tell oh make an answer for you and even if the answers the same thing as I would like give someone else with a completely different mentality I'll explain it to you in your words hmm so and leadership also boys not those same principles like LeBron James is this big Idol opens a big basketball star he has a


Idol opens a big basketball star he has a saying he says that dude you can shout at one brother and that gal get motivated if you shout another brother he won't wanna play basketball with you forever yeah and I've seen that like in leadership yeah yeah the same thing applies in coaching yeah same thing a vice and fitness coaching as well like yeah remember with ton my I had to be his like brother whether it was like hype man plus against are like you're not gonna be able to do this I'll do it yeah so yeah exactly so with this like this exact thought off I could be yelling the same thing at two sets of people one set can take away something completely different yeah from this other set that is taken away like okay this person is yelling at me and they clearly do the best for me and get the fourth out of you I don't want to see their face yeah and that is not in your hands you can do is like just see as


your hands you can do is like just see as I wash asleep with many trigger warnings like I just feel as a coach you have to put out the most likely correct answer okay if you're talking to a crowd if I'm broke then there are so many perspectives in the world how do you know but you have to put out something that'll definitely help most number of people as if it's going up 80 to 90 percent of people I'll put it out and the 10% who it hasn't helped can come up to me later or can do further research or they can go to someone else who fits their answer that's my job as a youtuber and as a motivational speaker when I'm speaking to a crowd but let's bring this super micro and talk about you should be like okay what's your last survived I survived what stops you from thinking that you will become like the Ellen DeGeneres of India first of all that is not my aspiration to become be anywhere there's already


my aspiration to become be anywhere there's already and I feel like I can be your safety pictures of whereabouts I feel which I am working on yeah it's just I I'm taking my time and like I'm in no rush to be anywhere right now but you are super ambitious person I am I am ambitious I would say that like I procrastinate a little bit I wouldn't even say procrastination I'll say that I get bogged down by a problem like if there is a huge massive undertaking and I know that I have to do this I have to cross this big hurdle to get to point B which is where I want to be I'll get really like overwhelmed by it and like oftentimes like give up on why will you get over because it's just a lot and like then I then maybe it is some have you here have you had some bad experience in life like has stuff not worked out no man I don't know like stuff is generally like life has been good so


like stuff is generally like life has been good so toughest generally worked out in those moments why can't you rewind back to your mom who believed like that I don't I really don't know like sometimes I can't believe my life and I can't believe where I have gotten because when I was a kid I used to think that I'll become mothers with and like be this like gorgeous Bollywood actor who is dancing and like looking beautiful then I grew older and then body image issues came and then I had like a terrible eating disorder in college then I lost a whole bunch of weight and I put on a whole bunch of weight and like just my mind and body were like in like a storm of thoughts the way I look at it from the outside I think it was this whole phase of the eating disorders and the body issues like I mean I still have body image issues I don't know if I'll ever be able to fully solve them was it was it some guy


to fully solve them was it was it some guy who like insulted you or something like no it was it was it was social it was media I was like movies it was Shraddha Kapoor would have drinking green tea in that ad and like looking at her stomach in the mirror and like sucking it in like it was like microaggressions like just looking at many hot women or like guys going up to hot women and like not even looking at you as a perspective someone you know I didn't want to date I was not I was ready I feel like I'm very conventionally whatever like I'm sure that there are men who will like me and men who will dislike but I know that I'm not super model and I don't even aspire to be like that's fine are you comfortable like in yourself right now no I want to like if I could I would like so cool things on my body and be like I want this to like like just give me like an exact like I want


like just give me like an exact like I want my stomach to be thin or I want my face to be small or I want mine was to be like Chapo's which is all yeah Eurocentric beauty standards that I have now understood that like I saw in movies and in ads and in magazines and I I ate it up like I totally bought into it I was like I have to look like this person who is just hot all the time you know buddy is that all yeah I mean see nobody can be perfect okay I mean unless you do like a lot of plastic but yeah but nobody can be perfect okay yeah we actually see this image in the gym a lot with like hard codes it moves you know the guys are like with what I used to be at one point just guzzling and like criticize each other's biceps like the other girl also viewed by some bah whatever get their eye so you know I see these same images in like the bodybuilding and jibbing world


same images in like the bodybuilding and jibbing world as well ah but in saying that I'll tell you this is just my experience the two kind of greatest changes in my life one was the not just because of how it made my body look hmm but every time you Jim every time you exert a body you put in like 45 minutes of work we meet twice a week hmm and at the end of it your entire mental state changes like you'll enter the gym with one kind of mental state like you'll have questions in your head and you'll have confusion your head and doubts and negative like just tangents going on in your head hmm and immediately as soon as like your gyming session is over oh okay I feel much better now hmm that's some clarity yeah there's science behind this there's like a lot of dopamine that's really yeah okay there is all the feel-good hormone so-called feel-good hormones of the body yeah it's a bunch they set it on this


yeah it's a bunch they set it on this oxytocin this dopamine but when dopamine can basically be released when you're doing drugs when you do anything you enjoy even with sex oh yeah oxytocin is released when you're cuddling that is called like the love hormone oxytocin answer at one but basically when you're jimang these hormones are released for two reasons okay well when you're exerting your body you see what is eggs ocean of a body I'm taking like this glass and picking it up so I'm using my muscle to pick it up so my muscle gets slightly damaged so body realizes 20 damage we're okay and it just throws in those hormones to make your mental space feel better so it will definitely help your muscle but at the same time it'll help your mental space also okay and I work at like a very high pace and work right now and this thousands of business problems that creep into my head every single day but I have to have that


head every single day but I have to have that one hour of jimang huh just to be able to mentally like release myself it's like blowing off steam so the first train was the gym huh the second big change I brought into my life was playing a sport again huh because you don't get to know where time passes by you okay when you're playing a game of football you be playing collect to us and you also involved the game so involved with your Bros with your teammates yeah and I mean the same applies so something like dance okay I've had like a dancing phase as well anything physical yeah you throw yourself entirely and I just focused on that activity Oh Lord and I've had a lot of mental health issues growing up you can't imagine like I've gone through like major depression you say had yeah so you are like you feel like your soul yes now I am again you know why because there's literally no toxin that goes inside my body like I've given


toxin that goes inside my body like I've given up alcohol I've given up pot I've given up there's no smoking ever in my life like there's no meat in my life there is like a very kind of balance slightly boring satiric diet huh and all this is back right three important aspects physical exercise like a lot of work hung up my mind is very busy and the third is that I meditate for two hours daily hmm and then meditation session is like you're taking an ice bucket full of water and pouring it onto like your heart brain so every morning when I wake up and you know I laugh oh god dude like I've got like all these things to do today I have to sort out these problems and I'll meditate my mind will get cool and then the solution to all those problems will be like right in front of me and then I go into office so at work obviously there's a your daily work tensions all of that you know and people coming up to you


of that you know and people coming up to you and also if you're running businesses your responsibilities of salaries your responsibility of people's leadership individual problems tomorrow's I just saw Blake one of them could be having a problem and as a leader I want to take a little bit of that on myself so I take away some of the tension from them okay so and then I get home I do my Netflix for a bit yeah but then my head is full of these micro problems of other people my own problems yeah and with the micro problems it gets all heated up yeah and again I like pour the cold water on myself okay I meditate for like an hour okay and I do like intense meditations yeah now the core of why meditation helps you with your mental health is two reasons one you become super self aware in the silence so when you're silent more like an hour hmm all your thoughts kind of just bubble up in front of you they'll they like rise within you and you're not


they'll they like rise within you and you're not supposed to talk so even if there's a negative thought you don't see anything yeah so you're just able to observe it really well and because there's so much silence and comments I do the solution also always pops in your head hmm that's one aspect of the second aspect of it is something called grounding which is the core aspect of like all mental health issues in the world which is that okay now any kind of mental health issue basically boils down to an aspect of overthinking okay okay like so it can be like any negative thing it can be like a breakup it can be say body image issues it can be career novus haha all of it is because you're going on these tangents of what-ifs hmm like my body major issues about what will people think of me hmm what did my family think of me when I find a spouse hmm my career may not go well how will I pay for all this Lee yeah it's all overthinking but


for all this Lee yeah it's all overthinking but if you're able to ground yourself you stay in one moment mm-hmm and there are actual meditations to be able to ground yourself so you familiar with chakras yeah I know about the chakras and them having to be aligned so chakras it's a long conversation which we won't ever know but basically should know there are seven chakras allowing your cerebrospinal axis when yoga the most important part of your body is your brain I'm just fine together okay and the organs along your brain and your spine which is your brain notice your cerebrum you made you'll oblong at all along with your pineal and your thyroid obviously your heart your stomach your intestine and then your sex organs mm-hmm now coming to mental health the most important chakra related to overthinking mental health is your lowest chakra okay which is in your sex organs oh so there are particular meditation so kind of calm down that Louis chakra okay and I've


of calm down that Louis chakra okay and I've this is something that you'll only believe after you actually experience it yourself I can't talk about it on the internet because in your way are not supposed to put our information like this this conversation will have after the born but in saying that what is grounding it's basically just your ability to stay in one place huh and as a kid you're usually very grounded if someone gives you a toy you know you're just a fascinating TV shows going on you're just in that fascinating issue and as you grow up problems start creeping in yeah why because the world kind of takes over your innocence which is what happened to you from Kanpur to Delhi where people make you aware of how bad people in this world think you're probably a really good human being at Kanpur you probably your eyes you grew at oh yeah so you grew up as a very innocent person incopy you've never judged too many people yourself hmm and then


never judged too many people yourself hmm and then we probably went to Delhi and you saw a lot more judgment there in general you went to big city and saw there okay people are capable of judging so am I also victim of all this German okay that's one aspect of it but then second Lee and more importantly and this is something I've only realized through my own experience the one biggest factor and keeping you ungrounded in life is these toxins that have become super normalized now due to Western culture which is that no I'm Bo biceps we even have and I partying how do you say but I think giving our alcohol and this is not something for everyone okay not every ass capable of giving up and you're not you shouldn't huh I gave it up for my yoga for my meditation to take those things more deeper ah but when you properly give up alcohol you kind of feel like there's a leash that's like removed from you and then you can't ever


like removed from you and then you can't ever go back to it like you can't even smell it like you don't even feel comfortable spelling and I've been a huge drink of myself like I've enjoyed my old man have enjoyed my viewers but I cannot drink I've been to like huge parties with like the biggest people now and they offer me drinks and I just say sorry bro I'm a yoga that mm-hmm and I'm so happy because of that okay that's one aspect of it secondly obviously I've spoken a lot about meat on other podcast yeah that was the other I or vegetarian yeah okay oh really yeah okay cool so you are stabilized aren't any bad habits in your life just just thinking and overthinking and like that okay well like not like like eating oh yeah like I eat a lot junk so that's that's where the toxins are entering from yeah so when you remove the junk or busy is gonna help your physical body but you have no idea how


help your physical body but you have no idea how much it hurts your mental body as well like if you move the actual clean home-cooked fresh food lots of vegetables at the end of the day I have just eaten chips dipped in cheese okay what if I you disgusting is so good I agree with you I agree with you burn more in your eye no no no I agree with it but okay and now I'm gonna give you two options hmm a life full of chips and cheese every night with a lot of mental health issues or chips and cheese once a week with like no I get what you say which is why you also see a lot of older people just automatically the body switch to like I didn't even am i huh because they become aware of this fact over their lifetime and again I have become a Buddha I like super yeah how old are you son I the way I live my life is too extreme yeah okay it's not yeah every young person's cup of


okay it's not yeah every young person's cup of tea which is fine I get and I don't force it on people but I also believe I'm the happiest dude you'll ever meet in your life that is aspirational actually I see you and I have almost never seen you not smiling yeah and to myself I've thought what's the deal with like how right can everything in his life that leave this happy all the time like whenever I've seen you yeah but that's also because I've had my share of party of course I do that's that's that aspect of life but okay I'll tell you what take it as a challenge for yourself huh good thirty days with no processed food and see the way open brain changes but then I have another conundrum below everything in this currently what whatever is available easily available not so easily available has some amount of processed whatever in it like not everything can be organic that you put in your body so then what do you do and this is someone whose middle class


do you do and this is someone whose middle class doesn't have access to nee chose basket and yeah but I'm seeing process I don't mean organic vegetables huh I just mean things that you cooking it huh as in you can put process salt you can put like you know you can buy your local that's fine whatever I'm just saying you avoid the packaged stuff stuff that comes out of a factory huh like your chips Oh your excess amounts of cheese desserts that's another huge one like desserts my god again I've had a huge sweet tooth in my life that was the earliest change I made after my gallbladder removal yeah like I had this phase in my life I was literally eating as a gold like this local meat I shop unless I have like four gulab jamuns do you know what malpuas that's yesterday last night for me actually yeah and but then what is there to life if there is no dessert this is my question okay I'll say I'll give you my answer


question okay I'll say I'll give you my answer there's a lot of love generally because when your mental health is great you just want to be a giver and you want to spread your positivity okay there is sport which is one of the most mentally engaging and spiritually engaging things if you get into it in the long I've seen the appeal yes and a sport also includes dance or any activity that you any of any physical physically moving there is work dude work is one of the most fulfilling things today she she that should you're learning way more than you expected yourself to and yeah okay so for that yeah there is at least now if you are paying your maid okay who comes home to clean and I'm sure you're paying like maybe one two other people indirectly you also in charge for their live livelihood and I feel in your mid-20s if you're earning well if I'm earning decently enough if you're able to contribute to your family yeah that is a huge advantage because


to your family yeah that is a huge advantage because one you in your cell phone every young kid doubts in savings and tell me this is the best most awesome feeling I have an SI p like i did exactly now a mutual fund is like its y-yeah and coming to like business yes yeah dude when I see like kids like walking into this office and I realize that damn they start to adjust and me you know just recording videos and now there's like 40 people oh yeah 40 families okay yeah office like it's a blowout like its massive so that's that so that feeling of responsibility is the biggest rush of life it's bigger it's a bigger rush than alcohol marijuana smoking non-veg anything so every morning maybe I wake up with a little tan jianci at Makaha karoonga I sort of the tension my meditation and I into this office in a very positive mind space when I get to Mentor young motivated capable kids I get to grow this business


motivated capable kids I get to grow this business further I get to increase the amount of employment I'm creating in the world but that's again my very personal perspective on things that's nice that's my perspective is we are all going to die right like you are gonna die I'm gonna die this guy's everyone is gonna die it's inescapable it shocks me that we don't talk about it all the time for sure but by you I think about it a lot and to the point where I sometimes feel like what is the point of anything which is classic nihilism merely sick feeling of the world doesn't matter so for me that becomes a little paralyzing in my like real like in the real world I need money to survive and you go out I need to have a social life I need to like make money and whatever but this crippling feeling of I'm gonna die but you're also going to live for so many years before you dies yeah out create a huge impact in those


you dies yeah out create a huge impact in those years I feel like we're all specks of dust in the big old universe right like how does it give what we like do you think people over like Chanakya or Swami Vivekanand I'm sure but like imagine like in the next twenty thousand years the earth is dead then yeah what Madame I feel like I mean what's the purpose of human life other than doing your duty which is making the world a better place so while you're you make best of it like spread happiness spread positivity spread money yeah that is thought yeah anybody was making enough money give it to other people I don't just hold it like the biggest rush of making money yeah is giving it away so this is beautiful code which says that the reason you're born is to find out what you're born for and the purpose you're born is to be able to give away that thing you were born for Wow who's that that I don't remember but it's a code that a


I don't remember but it's a code that a lot of entrepreneurs use and I feel it strongly as an entrepreneur like giving giving away giving back yeah um if I have to get up early for like a meeting like set c7m an hour later eyes okay get up at 11:00 okay what 7 a.m. is a huge deal for me and I hate it like it's not a real thing I hate the idea of getting up yeah but I put the faces of the 40 kids in my organization front of me and I'm like no I'll get up for them hmm that's the purpose of my life mm-hmm okay and that's what helps me wake up every day and stay positive every day if I bring a negative mentality into these four walls huh it's gonna spread to each person everyone will be negative yeah but if the leader brings a positive mentality it spreads yeah are you in this I agree with that I agree with like one fish will poison the pond in a situation like that


will poison the pond in a situation like that happens like your psyche is gonna affect the other next person we were talking to so yeah like being positive obviously has I don't know like it's just I really am kind of in awe of you also and slightly jealous of you also Rises like you just I'm jealous of you you just know that you have to wake up every day and be this person and I just know that I have to wake up every didn't be this for okay I tell you some who is like sad can I tell you something what I've made the correct people in my life I have met someone called Manish Pandey was a big mentor to me I meant Viraj shade rogers / - you were amazing co-founders and they're the people who fill these thoughts in my head I feel like all of us have come from the same base I was also that kid with body image issues with self too much self doubt and I just happened to find the correct


and I just happened to find the correct people in life and I showed them my self-doubt and they told me that hold on wait you need a mirror hmm they showed me my mirror which helped me and this is what I'm trying to do through my career coaching through talking to you yeah but I want to remind you that shifty like you're building one of the biggest brands and I'm I'm jealous of you yeah cuz again I see your stories on like Instagram I see the post you do I see how casual you write and just make people love you like you've been so casual about your brand but I just wrongly also believe you've not met the right people in your life strongly like I feel like it's therapy like I feel like therapy will help me and I do not know what it is that is stopping me from going for it like I've known this for the longest part like for the longest time in my life that I need to talk to someone about the


life that I need to talk to someone about the way I feel what are all the things I feel what what is like the most negative thing in your head right now like what is the thing that causes the most pain what what do you get nervous about when you're sleeping at night oh that I'm gonna die and significantly and it wouldn't matter and like nobody you would like miss me or remembering 173 K people disagree yeah but like do they care that much like even with that number and me I think about a lot and I'm like do these people actually give a about what I am going through or what I am feeling or my happiness okay I don't like I would like to believe that they are but I know for neither than when I when I log on to your stories I'm curious about what's officially up to today huh that shows some amount of care yes not just like I'm not even watching you for introduced are are the human beings like me as well I


are are the human beings like me as well I I want to remind you one more thing you told me the first time I met you you told me that in Kanpur you're a celebrity yeah like you're oh yeah times 11 after are you from Moscow it's me look like I've made it I've killed it so do you still feel you're insignificant after that in Kanpur dunno in Kanpur I can run for politics and like become me or something but then I know I don't I don't I don't know what I mean when I say that I am afraid of dying in sick in significantly that's probably because I don't still know what my purpose in life is like I still don't know what am I meant to do here like I feel very lost about soccer and I up and go there what what stopping you what's stopping you from keeping yourself busy I keep myself busy a lot of my being busy is like writing or reading or watching like I


busy is like writing or reading or watching like I watch a lot of I mean yeah I mean okay the way I look at it is like I feel like what are you doing in the present again you've got into 173 K on your own bal buta okay so no I wouldn't say that by myself like that there was a team and then for show multiple other people who was there for who thought of those first viral videos with you mean multiple other people again in the room like I'm sure that this is the thing now with movies and like anything that you see you see the face you don't see the director the cinematographer the sound guy the art director like there are a hundred people who are working behind the thing for a thing to become a thing like nobody can do anything by themselves but those we know the movie cells based on the actor actress and BuzzFeed so busy pictures like if you type BuzzFeed 50 they should keep watch a video HD man you need someone to inject the


a video HD man you need someone to inject the positivity in your head no I know this I feel like it'll be a therapist and it should be soon yeah dude I again like I think I don't know why but like maybe from this conversation you may have assumed that like there aren't people around me who tell me that I am awesome there are I get hella validation constantly a lot but I don't know that again there's this imposter syndrome or this feeling of I'm lying or I am scamming which I was talking about earlier which is like I no no no you are mistaken I have lied to you you've been scammed and I'm not this person who deserves all this have you ever tried talking your parents I mean what like I have I have a little bit but they also like they are very they are not very conservative that'll just be very reductionist to say they come from a very different I like school thought and yeah and like my world has changed so like


and yeah and like my world has changed so like I have grown up but they are still like kind of there so a lot of things that wouldn't even strike me as things that are important they would like really deeply think about like bro you were on TNA chaos which are American iPod here but they are thinking about a lot tell you something about brain fish detection people are drawn to your brand because they see genuinity they see a little bit of goodness a little bit of innocence and you and don't you feel like those are core traits which you got from your childhood and like they're for your parents yeah so don't you feel that like I mean if they could give you those core aspects of who shitty like is yeah they'll be able to guide you in this phase also possibly even better than the therapist I I don't know I just know one thing that I'm constantly lying and I constantly don't want to lie like it's a we're dying on social media like lying in my


we're dying on social media like lying in my life even if it is to people like if someone asks me how are you doing today my instant response will be I'm fine all will be I don't know I don't like it's never like a straight actual answer of whatever I would be going through and I also want to be this real authentic person who is genuine and like you see yourself in whole like it's I feel like sometimes it's a sham but I also want that sham to actually be the person I am so this person was on so so like if I meet someone for instance a fall or a fan I want to see myself as they see me but I I don't know how to like that's a handicap know I kind of know what you mean because I had this face very early on and be a wiser where I just I felt like yourself through as a faker but I think then once Rogers and me start working together and I think that whole money thing fixed it for


and I think that whole money thing fixed it for me yeah where I was like wait this Hustle is like creating someone else's livelihood just I think being a giver helped me personally in that and I feel right now because you're starting your own brand you know you're starting like shitty pictures other thing when you get your first co-founder or your first people working with you when you start building your team I think a lot of your issues will be solved so okay possibly about action because and this is just from my experience is what helped me now I wanna ask you one crucial question you give me advice I want I want to know what you're thinking and you tell me what I'm doing wrong in like my life and my brand I think you are killing it like this I seriously don't I feel like I don't know I don't have any advice but I would say that the I can sense a certain militancy in your way of life because you've worked very hard to become the


life because you've worked very hard to become the person you are and I get that and I respect that but I would maybe want you to be a little more yeah like just losing calm down like it's I get it I totally get who you are why you are I I respect it I am all for it yeah but like you will get so tired so much like I do this have to do that like it's just like just chill yeah man so you know my mom tells me the same thing yeah in some way I know that that's true that I'm going I'm going too hard at life yeah like with us like some regimented like coach sa ND a type catch-all driver but I legit wanna become like one of the biggest success stories of all time of India okay huge variation yeah I was just fair if you want something unachievable you have to do unthinkable and I think more than that again I have this strong sense of responsibility and leadership you so I feel that if I can


and leadership you so I feel that if I can be that best possible team member like how virat kohli is for India if I can model myself and become like the best batsmen of all time in some way I'll be able to create another Rohit Sharma another Harvick partner and then we'll be able to win the World Cup so you wanna be king and kingmaker just wrongly that's I think that's like a modern leader dude like a knight i legit when if I am dying and if I'm have not become like one of the greatest success stories of India I won't feel like a fulfilled my potential in life and I know attorney that I'm capable of man let me you have you will you already like you have this whole office I know I know but where did you start like just like can um can you believe where you are I'm just saying take two minutes every day to just look around and be like this is where I am I take two hours every


this is where I am I take two hours every day to do that in my meditations but I'm not saying that my life is perfect dude like okay I'll tell you the downside of ah now tell me for a real human being what an Android who has the perfect body okay there was a girl who I liked very much and I thought also longer a problem eventually and I had to break up and I mean we had to break up because even she's super ambitious okay and I just feel that both of us you know kind of picked up arrows over each other even though it was the most genuine symbiotic enriching relationship that's the downside of this world and also I think I'd have been brought up in a nuclear family like just for five members so I don't have an extended family life like I'm close to my cousins and my mama mama you know but it's only like the tight you know group of family one close to its the main family the Bema like mob Yaka


its the main family the Bema like mob Yaka Yaka cousins mahaki cousin think those are the people I'm close to but there's no extended family life there's no love of my life and I actually there's this one thought I've had of never actually dating and getting married because the life of chosen for myself is too difficult to put someone else through maybe if I find someone crazy enough will be like you know this is fine or like just like it so have you seen this so no stand-up special by Daniel's loss on Netflix I would recommend you watch it called jigsaw which is basically that I've all of us are puzzle pieces and we just need to like find the right piece who fits in just the way like we would like and it will also be a constant struggle like um hello single right now I shouldn't be giving advice to anyone but like don't don't be a monk like don't think that you would never want to i mean i'm be with anyone like i'm


to i mean i'm be with anyone like i'm sure you want companion for sure for sure i'm like a lover boy at heart okay like i'm super romantic I'm the guy who like who like throws rocks at Levi oh my god again like my love for my 40 babies and offices more than my love for just one human and that's one aspect of it and like the third down side so we went over like family we went over relationships my only friends are my team and the people I need to work like say you was a Buena cosplay project and Nichol god of Tunisia IDR my fam so when I meet you guys when I know I can open up to your lies like a content creator and I can be myself because I also kind of don't really have friends outside of business anymore I also feel like being myself in front of everyone is also a waste like I would only want to be myself in front of like a limited number of people like can I afford


like a limited number of people like can I afford my Hollywood yeah like I do I don't want to like I hate small talk like I just cannot do it yeah I don't care about like what our hobbies and interests I don't like and then that really like holds me back from being a person in the world where like I could I have a crazy social life and like a ton of friends but I just don't because I don't care that much how far do you want to take your career my career I feel like it's limitless right like I can't fully foresee where would you like to be as a 60 year old like in a big house like a big house yes haha pool and I would have learned how to swim by then jacuzzi many many animals like some sanctuary kind of scenario where there are crazy cat lady limit yourself to cats cats dogs giraffes like sky's the limit and just I want to be like a self-sufficient self-reliant producer maybe who makes their own


self-sufficient self-reliant producer maybe who makes their own and is known for like being that strong independent woman yeah I think your own path to that yeah like one day I really respect you for is like obviously the curio you've built but just this fact that your disposal chose to come to mommy from outside mommy setup your life you have the lone dude that like the moment I found out that about you and I knew you from before you became bigger on BuzzFeed that my told me this about HD and this is a story and I was like fascinated back then hmm I mean I just have to crazy amount of respect view and then then I started following you on social media properly no no then I was like aha I know I love how you're so low-key like your success and your jewel you just like put it all this because then if I start thinking about it then can me like Bill Gates or do you like it's fine it's Julia so she she like the ending


fine it's Julia so she she like the ending note for this whole podcast is few things what I hope you enjoyed the deep corners like that cool cool ALS challenge so I hope you enjoyed it secondly you if there's like one thing I want you to take away from this podcast is again and I have to do this or a lot of people on the podcast for some reason yeah but please please just know that you're on to huge things and everyone who follows you in social media adores you thank you I would I would suggest like the 173 k out of the 173 K over you so I would like for that to be true yes just just keep going produce that cash chill positive content and and good luck with everything I don't need to tell you I was gonna say to you are really sweet and like I don't need many men who are like this like tine and like sweet and like generous like there is some generosity of spirit I see in you and like that's really nice and


I see in you and like that's really nice and you should em like cherish that forever also like don't be a don't become some Sun like fall in love have lots of sex but like you will be you will find a companion who will like that jigsaw puzzle that that'll happen for you you I can see that for you know I hope so yeah like I hope like the cried possible yeah like because like you are so positive about everything else every other aspect in your life how can this one thing be where you're like no yeah I mean it's just that like I know you're hood I know that there is a certain kind of space you are in right now okay I'll tell you I was hood and I'm genuinely fine now hmm I'm just like I've taken on so much work on myself in order to get over the break-up that I think that this and this this quantity of work is paying off like there's growth everywhere this is a new company being built so I just


this is a new company being built so I just but then run be one day you go back to your mansion and sit on your two lakh rupees couch like they'll meditate for like five hours no no but like think after the meditation the night is still there yeah I don't like showering okay I'll tell you I'll tell you what I'll give you the perspective of a long-term meditator and this is something you only realize after like three four years of your meditation okay and some may realize very recently now the human mind and the human spirit is like an empty glass and through throughout your life you're trying to fill that up some people choose to fill that up with material things he may go branch say a Jew theta a couple hae da Rita you some people try to fill it up with intoxicants like I wanna be stoned all the time bro I want to be drunk all the time bro I wanna eat junk food all the time okay some people try filling it


food all the time okay some people try filling it up with another person hmm where it's like nope you complete me I want you to make up for I'm spending on you and you are the sole reason of my happiness and sadness that's creepy and the world of yoga says that if you actually live your life with that much discipline and you follow certain yogic rules and you meditate with determination you do yoga really just leave a determination again yoga's not religious its spiritual process it's discipline yeah it is it's a lot of this yeah like it doesn't that these changes don't happen without this gear you're able to actually fill up that glass and this is something I've only felt now after like four years of meditation after like determined meditation charts all give up Abbi no but already higher hmm now I actually feel complete just by myself hmm and only when your glass is full can you pour wine in other people's eyes oh yeah man and it's taken me four years to


oh yeah man and it's taken me four years to reach this point and a lot of discipline and it's not everyone's cup of tea and that's why I'm saying that there is a chance that even though I'm in my heart I want to date like this beautiful girl who are like tample and like all that because I'm the lover boy inside I also have a part of me which is that I want to adjust Blake except sigh the guys recording is to be driving Lamborghinis by the time they're 40 my god you guys okay like I have these visions for them huh and I would be much happier giving my boys and the pea in my office you know like gifts and just shouting gifts on that one person may I suggest us my week to this vision beautiful vision it's great everybody has Lamborghinis guys hopefully I have one too in this but maybe whoever your companion would be or if you eventually fall for someone hope for that person to have their glass full so


hope for that person to have their glass full so that just these two glasses can clink and Chios can I tell you something like their own people and also great together can I also tell you something slightly shallow I think one so very deep on the spiritual path you look for spirituality in your partner as well and there are people out there like yeah so of course you'll find your tribe you find your community or people who like a like-minded I think olio I was looking for say you know a mind in a relationship for a certain kind of personality now the core aspect for me in what I look for the potential go like in date is bro please be on the same spiritual path because otherwise you're gonna get all this like discipline anyway dating is like such an exhausting concept but yeah I get that yes I just hope you find someone I hope is on the same page I hope so too I I do pray for that that's one of those things that I ask for so I know and


those things that I ask for so I know and then there are times right is gonna walk into my life like yeah I really hope you enjoyed it I did so you're gonna be back on the podcast like a like the top I'm gonna links which these handles down below makes you go follow everywhere and I'm lesson guys from the podcast which was probably gonna rename soon


i think an ngo called one shakti had taken it up with the government that uh there were a few industries in uh navi mumbai that were not following pollution norms and the water over there had turned turquoise blue so that's something closer to home so so over uh so across the entire world across all different countries and legislations there is a marked uh disrespect for water for water the life it holds and the help that water [Music] provides another special episode of the ranvi show we've got nyathi from abhiyan new fame hello hello hello so today we're talking about secrets of the ocean niyati is one of my friends who is possibly one of the most valuable people i know she's the fuel behind abhi and you yeah so to speak i'm the person who does all the reading and gets abhi involved in you know all the different topics so yeah i have to talk about the ocean dude so topic that's fascinated me a lot i've had a few deep


fascinated me a lot i've had a few deep sea diving experiences which just opened up my head in terms of the on the first dive i ever did i saw a whale like right in front of me like at the beginning of the dive you realize how small you are because of that like this whole room was probably one-fourth or one-fifth of the volume of that whale yeah and when you see that in front of you as a human being you really understand how small you are yeah other than that you look down you see the colors of the fish the corals so it just changes your perspective so that's why i initially got that interested in the ocean and i also got interested in this one more fact i read which was that only five percent of the world's oceans are discovered and 90 95 are not yeah so uh one of the main reasons for that is and uh you know quite a lot of it if you watch uh this episode called high seas uh on our planet where


this episode called high seas uh on our planet where uh david yeah it's on netflix where david attenborough talks a lot about uh the high seas so the high seas are those vast expanses of seas which are not under any country's economic controls so if you look uh between asia and uh both the americas you have a vast area of the pacific which is uninhabited which is open and there's no country that is sending fishing trawlers out there or anything so that's that's the open ocean so uh and you have a brief space of the atlantic also those two oceans where you have a lot of space uh and you have the indian ocean like beyond africa further but there is no landmass so those are like the high seas open oceans where animals roam free and david attenborough calls it the wild and lawless nature where no country's laws can sort of reach you so it's kind of crazy so uh a lot uh you know the the sea floor is a


lot uh you know the the sea floor is a lot deeper than what uh we think it is and sunlight only only reaches up to the first i think about thousand uh meters so one kilometer so beyond that uh sunlight doesn't trickle because uh water is a barrier to it so then it doesn't reach to the absolute bottom so as you keep going further and further below its pitch darkness you know you have a twilight zone and then it's pitch darkness and that is the part that we have not been able to explore as much right it's kind of crazy if only five percent of the world's oceans are discovered that means only five percent of the total species also possibly are discovered like there's so many species of animals left to discover for all you know there might be sea monsters at the bottom of the ocean well i have to tell you this uh even though you may not have sea monsters you definitely have plastic down there because uh what one of the teams did is see


because uh what one of the teams did is see uh as you keep going further and further down the ocean the pressure keeps increasing similarly as you keep going up the up mountains the air becomes scarce and it becomes very difficult to breathe similarly as you go uh deeper and deeper into the ocean atmospheric pressure becomes so high that it starts to crush you because there's a column of water above yeah yeah it starts to crush you and you're going further and further closer to the earth as well right so then the gravity is also pushing so then uh because that crushes you you need specific vehicles that can take you down you can't deep dive that much if you deep dive that much you'll probably be crushed so uh finding the right vehicles finding funding for those is quite difficult so in one of the expeditions that had gone down there they had actually taken samples of a few or crustaceans prawn like creatures and taken them back to dissect them and


creatures and taken them back to dissect them and to analyze them and in one of those prawn like creatures they had found plastic also so then it is like we not only have a plastic problem on land we have it at the deepest depths of our seas as well so plastic has gone where no man has in terms of those creatures at the bottom are they have you read about those creatures specifically like are there dangers are there not much but but it it's a very different world out there because you don't have any light coming so the dynamics are completely different like over here because you have sunlight everything is in abundance if you go to a forest the life is very abundant over there so you'll have sunlight so you'll have a lot of plants and as a result you'll have plant eaters and then to counter the plant eaters you'll have the carnivores as well so it's like an entire ecosystem but down there it's completely different it's completely different because you


it's completely different it's completely different because you don't have light over there so then each creature has adapted to it so you have something called bioluminescence so um if you uh saw like a firefly yeah kind of if you saw finding nemo uh finding nemo where they go to the uh depths and then you know there's one point where tori is just talking and they have this angler fish that comes it has a light on it yeah it has a light on its head and like really maniacal teeth so you have creatures like that that are down there yeah which depend on uh self-generated light to catch prey wow yeah you also have corals down there so it's a completely different world completely different world so here's one interesting thing i had read about so this is this creature called the sperm whale which is one of the biggest they say that killer whales orcas are dangerous but sperm males are probably second in that category and if you study any sperm male's body they have


if you study any sperm male's body they have these battle scars on them like they have like cuts and like bruises and just like you know the skin is a little bit scarred up yeah yeah and they say that sperm whales battle with giant squids so the squids that we uh eat like you know like that you catch as fishermen they are like those small tiny ones yeah then there's larger squids called giant squids and then there's a even larger squid which hasn't been spotted by humans in the recent past right but it's called the colossal squid and it was right right i think that's also one of the deep sea creatures that's there like there's supposed to be a huge colossal squid yeah i don't remember the measurements but it's supposed to be really really huge so basically in the medieval times when there was more ships and all that sailed all around like the high seas and all that a lot of sailors had reported seeing colossal squids and some people


had reported seeing colossal squids and some people reported seeing colossal squid and sperm whale battles which is a crazy thought because i mean i don't think people understand how large whales are yeah then you actually see yourself yeah yeah imagine an underground underwater battle of like crazy it's crazy yeah uh have you have you heard of this whole thing about how um even bombay um so they say like how mumbai is built on reclaimed land right and earlier how we used to be like a bunch of islands right right and the weather as well as you know the energy when you go to a new place a certain energy of the place was very similar to goa right right and yeah it had a lot of marine life in fact oh i think when beer vices was starting i used to go on zhu beach to publicize about beer biceps and i met this one 75 year old uncle who had grown up in the same house which was on zhu beach so he had seen jhubi


on zhu beach so he had seen jhubi change over time and i asked him that what what's the big difference and he's also someone who's very well traveled so i asked him what was the difference between then and now and he said that um earlier it the water was so clear that you could enter jew beach go waste deep and actually see fish under you things like stingrays would come up like very close to human beings you could even see like dolphins on the beach and all that which again started happening after the lockdown started when dolphins came yeah yeah came near bombay but it just makes you think that [ __ ] like human beings have really uh yeah you know messed up messed up uh yeah well i i think there's just a lot of uh see you have two three different components to how we've messed up the system so uh one component is the sort of uh stuff we put into our waters like in bombay uh they don't have a sewage treatment


bombay uh they don't have a sewage treatment plant as such uh so uh there's actually a group called marine life of mumbai that takes you on uh walks around mumbai's shores to try and discover uh see i mean my life that is there on those rocks or just as you enter the sea and there's a lot of creatures that are just native to mumbai i've heard yeah yeah yeah that is still being discovered again those guys are absolutely wonderful and uh i mean if the lockdown wasn't there you guys could i would have recommended going on a walk with those guys but now we'll just wait for the lockdown to get done so uh over there as well those guys tell me that there are so many different creatures on mumbai's seashore the coastline and stuff like that and and at one of those walks uh one of the volunteers told me that off the coast of worley i guess around 5 or 10 kilometers deep into the arabian sea that's where the


deep into the arabian sea that's where the pipe with all our switch comes and it just empties over there and apparently this is just like one black spot in the sea you know that is how dark and murky the whole thing is so it's it's everything that goes from our households from maybe industries or whatever so all of it just goes straight into the water so whatever pollutants we put into the water that kind of disrupts the entire cycle because um let me tell you this one thing um water bodies naturally have a capability of healing themselves and repairing themselves so even if you have a lot of up to an acceptable level of pollutants or bacteria or something like that the water can cleanse itself if you have more fresh water that comes in the water can clean itself but beyond a point if you keep polluting it the reverse river or any water body's ability to regenerate stops that's what's happened to the yamuna today the yamuna has so much of


yamuna today the yamuna has so much of pollutants raw switch and stuff that goes into it that the river doesn't have any ability to regenerate itself or to be capable of supporting any life so it's just water but it's not water with life and i feel like that's what we have ended up doing in this past century or so you know we've not been very mindful of the fact that you know there is an entire ecosystem that depends on water so that has happened so that is in terms of whatever discharge and the second thing where oceans and any water body has suffered is fishing so if you look at it you have a regular uh small scale individual level fishing which if you go to our coasts you may have quarries and stuff who'll take their boats and go and then they'll fish and they'll come on the other hand in developed countries you also have commercial fishing so you'll have these big trawlers that will go out with nets that will just catch


that will go out with nets that will just catch all the fish in the sea and then they'll refrigerate it can it and then sell it so a lot of damage to the ecosystems and oceans is done by these trawlers by commercial fishing who will fish indiscriminately like the entire logic of nature is that if you take something then you leave something back so that you let it regenerate but with commercial fishing those same principles haven't been followed as a result so many uh species of fish have been uh you know overfished so then their populations in the sea are not you know able to regenerate them as as as fast as we're fishing them so these are these these are the two problems that our oceans are facing and that is why probably that 75 year old uh uncle said was really clean and now it's not it's not because we're throwing a whole lot of goop in it and whatever life is there we're not respecting it yeah you know you said something interesting that whatever


it yeah you know you said something interesting that whatever life is there we're not respecting it when you think about the actual life in the ocean if you actually read about the kind of creatures out there which are discovered by man let's take orcas for example it's like killer whales like free willy yeah it's a creature that's fascinated me since my childhood because of freelance and i kept reading about it these creatures are so intelligent that or there are populations of them all over the world yeah and each of those populations so say an indian ocean orca in its behavior will be very different from an orca somewhere near sweden and norway right because uh they've just developed their own cultural heritage which they actually pass on to their children so they have their own technique of hunting which they actually teach their kids for example near i think the south pole the orcas there they primarily eat the seals right and to kill the seals they have a particular technique where they will isolate


they have a particular technique where they will isolate a seal on a patch of ice and then and two orcas three orcas will attack it in a group and bully it to kill it and all and these are hunting techniques that are passed on to their kids yeah so there are videos of like orcas training their kids and like doing certain things and it's it's crazy to think of that kind of intelligence in you know a wild uh animal yeah and also how they say that okay dolphins are actually even supposed to be smarter than dogs yeah so the same intelligence you see in dogs the dolphins are even more like our dolphins are very intelligent and uh in fact um you know humpback whales each brood each group of humpback whales have their own particular song so suppose a group of humpback whales is swimming say and they meet another uh they actually observe this that a group of humpback whales i'm sorry i don't know the english you know word for what


i don't know the english you know word for what it's called so like a group of humpback whales uh swam towards australia and then they met another group of humpback whales and the first group and of course because they're singing all the time they're uh you know calling out all the time they make a lot of clicks and a lot of different sounds uh by the way a humpback oil sound is actually very beautiful so uh it's very long and very uh beautiful so then uh they met this second group over there they interacted with them and then they decided i like the second group song much more than mine so then they adopted that second group song also so then they have cultural exchanges also where you know this is my song but i like your song so then think i will use your song only you know so it's so wonderful that there's this sort of sharing going on between them yeah and this is one dynamic whales but even when you think of something like turtles where


but even when you think of something like turtles where they live for like 150 years and 200 years i think i've read that about salt water crocodiles also if i'm not mistaken um so i think saltwater crocodiles lived for really long like 100 120 years if i'm not missing i'm not sure if it's saltwater or some other kind of species but there's this really cool story at once seen on either jorgen experience so i read it somewhere where basically there was a group of uh japanese soldiers somewhere in vietnam and they were getting ready to ambush the uh their enemy so to ambush the enemy they were hiding inside a lake and before they could actually ambush the enemy the crocodiles inside the lake started attacking all the japanese soldiers and killed off the entire battalion and the scarier thing is that uh those same crocodiles which probably killed those soldiers in world war i was still alive today because because like you know that's how long they've lived yeah because they're


that's how long they've lived yeah because they're crazy and when you think of turtles like these turtles have been there probably from the 1800s you know when the british was coming to india things like that yeah so there is a severe lack of knowledge and a lack of respect for ocean life amongst uh people that's what i strongly yeah yeah so uh if you feel that uh throughout our uh you know you you only start to get respect for people you see people or animals you see like you automatically respect dogs because you're exposed to dogs as a domesticated animal you're exposed to kittens and then you know if you have uh videos of someone beating them or torturing them so those sort of things affect you on a personal level and you can see it or similarly for any other domesticated animal or farm animals you can see their plight in front of you but we can't see the plight of fish who are being overfished you know or sharks that are being


being overfished you know or sharks that are being killed which are uh you know absolutely critical to maintain the balance of an ecosystem so those sharks are being cured but then people are not noticing that the entire ecosystem is collapsing people can't hear coral reefs when uh you know those commercial fishing nets will drag across the corals and kill coral sever forty thousand fifty thousand year old corals they will probably never grow back you know forty thousand fifty thousand years i'm sorry i gotta keep bringing it back to this monster zone because they're deep because they're the deep sea ones right so then they're the ones you can't see so then the people over the edges couldn't see them couldn't reach them but now we can now we can with uh whatever uh means of transport that we have the ships and the commercial trawlers and the big nets do you see it changing um well unless there's an international conscience about it i don't see it changing like what what used


it i don't see it changing like what what used to happen was uh initially uh whales uh blue whales were amongst the few whales they were being hunted to extinction at one point of time i think there were like three lakh whales and then they were dangerously close to extinction and they were hunted internationally because they used um some part of the whale in uh perfumes yeah i think it's a stomach or something some some part of the whale i'm not there's a bag [Music] something something which is used in in uh perfumes and stuff like that yeah musk yeah it's it's the thing they use it for soap yeah a lot of different stuff and then um what started to happen was that they started to actually show footage of this happening you know they they showed footage of uh people killing those whales or then uh blood spewing across the ocean and then them lifting those whales and then seeing that they're just lying there and that sort of sparked the