television screen that's running you couldn't do anything but not at 3am i'm kidding at 3am my mom is sleeping in the living room okay okay fine fair so so it was not as comfortable as kids do have the smartphones where you have unlimited internet connection so we had 400 mb of data for a whole month okay and i had to use it wisely and uh i was this person where when i look at my work and when i look at my screen uh uh i'll i'll be doing my work in an orgasmic way by the way in the sense in the sense even if my mom shouts vishnu have your dinner i wouldn't hear anything so you you have these uh teenagers playing playstation games where they wouldn't hear a word or a thing that happens outside my my dad would be watching something in the television my sister would be reading something out loud that's how she's used to learning and my mom would be cooking some food in the street some action will be happening


food in the street some action will be happening vehicles honking i'll not hear anything i'll be like completely noise cancelled image cancelled only focus on the screen so i built that kind of attentiveness and when you're super attentive and immersed you naturally enjoy something when we were having a conversation we're like we had i you had dogs and that would make you super lively and now plans are a replacement for you right so being super immersed in the present moment in what you do at that point in time and being always in the present means you're always blissful if i am talking to you i am in this present moment and not thinking about the past or the future or what audience who are listening to this podcast will be thinking or what my mom and dad will be thinking when i answer this then it will be a screwed being inside maybe i could provide all of these answers but within i'm nervous within i'm angry with it i'm anxious and i'm always computing and comparing so


anxious and i'm always computing and comparing so generally i don't right and uh why is it that dogs are you know people love dogs so much you are in the present moment when dogs are around [Music] and you're free from the past and the future if you're free from the past and the future where there is worry where there is fear i was super immersed at the work so i enjoyed it quite a bit and uh no access to opportunity to get distracted another royalty you know going around having secret spots having a large enough house where i had my own bedroom so i would sleep in the floor along with my mom in the same living room and we had two bedrooms where in one my grandparents were hanging around and in another my mom and dad or my sister would be so i would sleep in the living room working until 1 2 a.m and then just fall asleep there girls never crossed a head of course they cross my head but then they just come here and go


my head but then they just come here and go like this hot girl came back to us but as a teenager it used to be oh hot girl i love you i don't think of you at least for me it was like that like i remember i used to have a crush on rachel from friends you know you've seen friends yeah the series yeah so american series was my first like woman i think that i felt something for if you know what i mean yeah and uh if you know what i mean what you mean god dude then there's some episodes where she looked so hot basically that i remember just like almost like just being lost in that thought like i was thinking about her so much i was lying on my bed and just like screaming because i hadn't discovered certain joys of life back then i didn't know what to do with that like when i was 12 years old and there you are mr vishnu thinking of how to multiply revenues at the same time and then it happened to


at the same time and then it happened to be at a point where i couldn't afford to get distracted so when i when i was at the us us is the place i was truly independent no mom no dad no relatives no restriction good smartphone western life which is why i have to ask you about las vegas we stopped it right in vegas exactly what happened in vegas we saw everything that people see in las vegas okay but i had that self-restraint not to get distracted and deviated because i had already built up on something and my aspirations were too deeply ingrained in me that uh my ambitions my aim and what i had to and wanted to accomplish always came at first and you were sixteen eighteen oh i mean i still do this two young man like and then uh the guy who happened to meet me also was very kind and he understood me and and then we started going to starbucks to have conversations and uh always we would think okay


to have conversations and uh always we would think okay let's get a sheet of paper or our laptop to go have the conversation maybe we would forget it we'd get that i vividly remember the conversations i've had with fatih he was the founder of the company we'd go to starbucks we'd get the brown tissue paper and then ask a pen from the guy who's serving in the counter and then start writing and we'll get 15 tissue papers write all the ideas and uh we've done that probably 20 or 30 times back and forth which led to many projects that we have executed and then i moved to the us i spent two years we uh moved from columbus ohio to san francisco i convinced him that we have to be in the bay area to be fancy and then we moved to the bay area we both really loved it wait what happened to your digital marketing firm in india yeah we hired the team most of the people started working for his company and he paid you


people started working for his company and he paid you money as the founder yes he paid me money as he actually uh we made an arrangement where i would have some percentage of his company and uh i would be paid a salary on top of that to lead things and i had milestone based rewards so i've always been this person where uh i have never enjoyed getting paid just like that in the sense that if somebody would call me and say they'll pay me a couple of million dollars i'd be like why why are you paying me a couple of millions of dollars i want to work for it i want to earn it man at the time this guy made total sense when he said like he made all of these things and i said like i want this much money you have to uh show this much impact you have to make 10 million dollars to earn two million dollars for yourself okay yeah and then i was like okay i i will stand upside down and make it happen so that


stand upside down and make it happen so that i'm a millionaire and being a millionaire was a big thing being an 18 year old right i think the the the lesson here to make the conversation a little more serious is that when you give a horse a pole to run towards a horse runs faster absolutely and always when you expect something without working for it even if it happens it will not stay for long you have read about the stories of people who won lottery almost 96 of the people who win lottery actually in some countries 99 percent of them will lose it in like six months to one year and will be poorer than they ever were both physically mentally the reason is they are not used to handling that much money and it happened to them without the journey and effort yeah you know that the whole thing about if you rise up really fast in life it's likely that you can fall down absolutely we see it with athletes we see it with actors we see it even with social media


it with actors we see it even with social media creators now if you're a very fast race there are chances that you can have a very fast fall as well absolutely and uh for me value creation was the central theme back then i was born and brought up uh with this ideology that i should add the maximum value to everyone i work with professionally and if i keep adding the maximum value anything else does not matter whether i speak good english whether i can make great spreadsheets whether uh i am super good at organization or team building or strategy whatever like if i work with you if i make you 10 million dollars i know if i come to you and ask two million dollars you are gonna have to give it to me correct yeah if you are a sensible person you will definitely make the choice of giving it back to me because you would then make a plan to make hundred million dollars with me so that's what i saw in this uh entrepreneur that i went and worked with what was


uh entrepreneur that i went and worked with what was his name okay he was a muslim born and brought up in austria moved to the u.s i worked with multiple clients before that but he was the first one i worked really closely with in fact a couple of weeks back i was at his house in the us uh back from the u.s only a week ago last week i was at this house actually so you know i want to highlight something that i have kind of just figured at age 28 gonna turn 29 in a week so this is my last 28 year old learning which is a very important business and career lesson if you want to rise really fast in your career basically in conversations especially where you are expected to add value from the other parties you really try gauging the problem statement give an opinion on what you think the result should be with actionables also exactly in terms of define the problem then in your words next define what you think should be the solution and it doesn't stop there


think should be the solution and it doesn't stop there the solution actually ends when you have given actionables to either the person or yourself and you want to get one level deeper execute on those actionables yourself correct taking ownership and the responsibility yeah see i have been this guy and i think if people become this guy where they take responsibility without being asked for they naturally rise to the top that's what you see with the accomplished people even with the stalwarts like sundar pichai or satya nadallah people took responsibility without being asked for and then naturally rise to the top it's the fastest way to get professionals in life it's the fastest way to rise as an entrepreneur absolutely and center your activity and work around value creation and split down that ultimate value on how we will create that value into actionable steps and how it makes a difference in the lives of people that you serve and instead of wanting to become a millionaire billionaire and a hun deck accord if i


billionaire and a hun deck accord if i do work on my competency and constantly uh keep delivering results results results and results to every stakeholder whether it's a customer or a client or a partner or an employee or a shareholder or an investor or an influencer that i work with naturally i will rise to the top so if i keep delivering value to every stakeholder and constantly center my activity around delivering value eventually in due course of time anyone would race to the top i've already breached the million dollar mark at my age of 20 in terms of how much money i've made which was a lot right one million dollars for a 20 year old kid my whole family wealth was not that much right so and in the u.s being in san francisco was always like uh everybody are huge and everybody are super smart you have to run run run and run like there's always someone smarter and someone richer than you in every room and it was like 95 percent of the case when


and it was like 95 percent of the case when i was in coimbatore at least i was like in the top five percent right among those who i spoke to so you have this sense of okay i'm good i'm scoring here if you go there you're not scoring anywhere you're like probably the last five percent or the last 10 percent has an entrepreneur living in silicon valley with a million dollars no respect right so you push yourself too hard and i broke down then itself because i started working when i was 11 12 and then 13 is when i started making the money and uh it was already like 2021 uh having a million dollars in the bank account not being able to go to sleep got me to the striking realization i need to fix it then that was also the time when uh our company got acquired by endurance international when i got in for this yeah company uh got acquired by endurance international i was in the leadership team was instrumental in positioning the business for acquisition


team was instrumental in positioning the business for acquisition i had worked with the whole leadership team and speaking to potential buyers i was the head of marketing and strategy in the business executed like tens of hundreds of projects managed a large team and delivered significant value in uh improving their profitability so uh once we sold it i had the money in the bank account but i was not in control uh random thoughts fear high levels of stress lack of health right i had to fix it and uh after two months of reading swami vivekananda and connecting back to yoga and reaching out to my gurus and understanding the power of breath work meditation i went on a trip to bali hold on brother why did you mention swami vivekananda swami vivekananda for me was always somebody i looked up to from the quotes that i read like array is awake and stop not uh until you make it happen right so uh uh he has gone to the us made his mark started ashrams


has gone to the us made his mark started ashrams institutions uh worldwide i'm getting goosebumps yeah within a short period of time that he lived that also before 120 years and the level of intellect and the intelligence that was showcased in his speeches the thought and what he manifested in those days without any resources was phenomenal and magnificent sort of a nawal ravi khan figure of that time in a more spiritual way yeah in definitely see until then my thought process about spirituality i was an atheist okay and then i became agnostic i was like see you cannot disprove the existence of god more war and buffet style right and then when i read vivekananda i was like oh man being spiritual does not mean doing nothing being spiritual means doing every single thing possible right best of your capabilities yes to the best of your capabilities non-stop you take any number of people then i started reading about chinmayananda sachidananda dan and the saraswati and the any number of gurus who went from


and the any number of gurus who went from here to the west and maharishi mahesh in the new age you could take srishi ravishankar and sadhguru any number of people who have made their mark have worked non-stop in the u.s they are heavily recognized and in the 60s 70s 80s they would go to jails even now they continue to do so in running their programs of yoga for the inmates and governments cities and these prisons have seen 60 to 90 reduction in crime after they would go through this program can you believe that and every state has granted him citizenship all kinds of honorary awards this and that and what not which is why in the u.s all of these gurus are greatly respected now right i read a lot of them then i went on a trip to bali for self-exploration and i wanted to take a couple of weeks of break from everything i was doing and look within understand what was going wrong and that's when i also quit eating


was going wrong and that's when i also quit eating meat i physically observed in one of the meditation sessions of the day when i had chicken and fish that my body and my stomach was taking more time to process it and it was adding up to the lethargy and the lack of awareness and focus that i always wanted to remain in and that state of ease and pleasantness that i wanted to manifest and uh i was able to manifest the peace and pleasantness much more easier when i had vegetables and fruits instead of meat satwik food satwik food and that's when i decided uh let's quit eating meat and i i'm a firm person when i make a choice so i made the choice that day since then it was in 2015 i also wrote a big quora article summing up my thoughts on what occurred to me and why i have changed that way uh it still is there read by more than 50 000 people 100 000 people or whatnot i do not know so then i


people or whatnot i do not know so then i quit eating meat i uh told myself money is not everything and that realization had already stuck is this the swami vegan in the effect yes also to a large extent money need not be the driving factor of the action that i perform i keep moving forward and onward and do my best and accept what happens so like one one second rule let's dial back a little bit i'll tell you why because everything you're saying comes from spiritual places like so many of the books are spiritual and they say the same things that you're saying right now very few books that i have read speak about swami vivekananda and detail which is why i'm constantly nudging you to talk about that because i want to learn like absolutely you know me and now i suppose we work together as well so i think we know each other to a certain degree at least of course what do you think i can gain from reading about and the works of


i can gain from reading about and the works of swami see if you read the letters of swami vivekananda you will understand the tone the context and the theme of the conversation he's trying to have with his disciples and people who followed him right so he always wanted to create a world and be the solution to the problems that were existing whether it was illiteracy whether it was uh you know cleanliness or whether it was spiritual education and advancement of people which is why he has established uh you know so many institutions i think the the ramakrishna vidalia which runs across the country with ramakrishna mission friends hundreds of colleges universities where almost uh all of my family members the previous generation got educated right so he saw illiteracy as a major thing that is dooming the indian population and keeping them under this large blanket where they are covered by taboos and all this imaginary beliefs and poverty and whatnot so he went on called the new india to become torchbearers and


called the new india to become torchbearers and solve for it and solving for any problem requires at most dedication and at the same time relentless action keep acting keep motivating draw hundreds and thousands of people in your mission to solve and being untouched by all of that was the one thing that inspired me even when uh they were about to keep his own name for one of the institutes he said no keep my guruji's name ramakrishna mission i am not the reason for all that i do and nor i do want to have any money in my own bank account so i don't want to handle and be own any of the finances so if you take it from a deeper reality and realization uh none of us are going to take anything when we leave the earth so even if i have a billion dollars in my bank account it is only valid until i am alive and even if you have the biggest legacy as a tech entrepreneur correct so all the knowledge this beauty fame name


correct so all the knowledge this beauty fame name wealth legacy and all that you create is only valid until you are here so whether money is in my bank account or somebody else's bank account if i am able to perform my duties and do my work in an untouched way and keep moving forward i could make the maximum impact everybody are interested in the part on how i became a millionaire and nobody is interested in the part on what went what went through in the seven eight nine years in the journey of becoming a millionaire right everybody are like okay can i also drop out of college would i become a millionaire would you guide me what do you have to say to people like that who want to drop out that's such a key question in this podcast see if anybody wants to drop out for the joy and their imagination of how life will be after they drop out i would clearly advise them not to and i dropped out of school when i already was at level three or level


school when i already was at level three or level four in my journey right i already had a team of 20 people i was making few thousand dollars a month in the first entrepreneurial venture that i have set up so i don't think anybody needs to drop out people start spending the time they spend in unnecessary activities that instantly gratifies them into pursuing a passion or anything of economic value and they prove get to a certain level then they can think of dropping out right and dropping out is not fancy if i dropped out and failed nobody would even talk to me right i've dropped out come somewhere somewhat ahead like from level three you've come to level six still there are maybe thousand levels that i have to walk forward i am trying to quantify this to make a sense among the people who are comprehending okay if they drop out of their schools or colleges that they're going to life will be so great they can be a successful entrepreneur it's not the dropping out


be a successful entrepreneur it's not the dropping out that makes any difference it's the time energy and continuous relentless progress and value creation that they do over a very long period of time two three four five years that takes them to where they are um that have a certain trajectory with where life is going men uh we actually had hired a dropout i think a couple of years ago very promising at the start the way he had submitted his resume was he actually built out an instagram page about the podcast and fantastic graphics fantastic work fantastic dedication which you would see through the edits subtitled and all that time there's no tool for subtitling so you type it out yourself just heavy amounts of work we got in touch with him interned with us for a while performed well while interning um i called him and he said yeah i'll come and i told him that listen man even if you're dropping out you have to work immensely here he actually left his house against the will of his family


actually left his house against the will of his family came to bombay spent time uh lived in the office worked well for two months and then the performance slumped like badly slumped he gave feedback you're very gentle for very very long for six months maybe you're gentle come on dude work come on let's get better arm around the shoulder treatment i know you've left your house i know you've dropped out let's kind of do something with your career prove it to me i'll give you bigger opportunities if you keep proving yourself i don't know when something happened in bombay to this dude and he's a good guy i think he had good intent he was capable and that's what kind of pissed me off that if he wasn't capable and he wasn't able to perform i would have given a but he was a capable intelligent kid just stopped caring because he assumed that now that i've dropped out i've taken a risk i've proven myself i proved myself with


risk i've proven myself i proved myself with my internship and the work assignment that i'd done back then just stopped working hard and that's what people especially kids of today fail to understand about dropping out once you've dropped out every day is going to be mentally exactly how you feel in the middle of your exams when you're already burnt out from studying and you have two three more exams to give in front exactly and you're not prepared every day is going to be like that correct that's the cost of not completing a college degree and not exactly having the vision absolutely cost of dropping out means you have to anyways be successful otherwise you're doomed yeah so and see in this country the day and age we live in today i would agree education is the sole reason that it has lifted millions and millions of people out of poverty and middle class to a affordable way of life okay so my respect to all the institutions and those people who define frameworks that has educated the


and those people who define frameworks that has educated the country right so one everybody need not drop out everybody can go through their formal education and start a business when they are ready and uh whether they are a dropout or not a dropout the sense of accomplishment in their head is equivalent to i already know everything i know my exactly if you have this thing that i already know everything it's like a bottle filled with water can you feel anything more on top of it the process of feeling like an empty bottle a big ball of nothing will keep you moving ahead and forward and you will continuously learn and you will evolve and you will work on your journey but the moment you think you've made it you're gone i'll tell you what advantage teenagers of today have over us because they have access to information and access to podcasts like this throughout my college life i was told that i won't be able to make it in the big bad world and you know i'll have to go for a higher


and you know i'll have to go for a higher education and nothing against higher education but uh the good thing i did was that i took actions i executed just like yourself uh the best thing that i did in my entire career was getting mentored and asking the right questions to older experienced people which is a big reason we started the podcast so that younger people in the position that you and me were in now have access to absolute pathways correct uh this podcast is too important for young indians at least because they currently living in the same society that we lived in but with access to podcasts like this of course so maybe as the ending node i'd like for you to just talk to young professionals and teenagers who are kind of lost right now but are inspired at the end of this episode see for all the young professionals teenagers and people who would want to make the mark and do something just get started and be consistent with efforts and continue to progress forward by the day learning something or either


to progress forward by the day learning something or either you win or learn and you keep moving forward continue to perform your action as an offering and see the results as grace one day you will make it happen and even if you don't make it happen at the end of the day you would have given your best for which you will feel happy and joyful about it you know um man with this episode i know i'm ending it abruptly but i'm a strong believer in the fact that let your work speak and let the results speak absolutely whatever we are working on together that we're launching um let the product speak have got the world let the product speak and let the ventures and the work that i do speak 100 and uh now that i'm working on building this house of brands at supercluster so audience can check out the products and the work that i do and give the feedback really look forward to learning from you and everyone who are listening to this podcast and improve myself by the


listening to this podcast and improve myself by the day and do the best that i can yeah thank you drop your comments guys we're also going to be linking vishnu's handles down below we're going to be linking links to the actual products so go check it out uh entrepreneurs are always open to feedback especially from you folks so i want to know what you thought of this podcast as well this partnership but this energy that you guys felt during this podcast i promise you that anything that vishnu myself do together it'll have a form of this energy in it of course thank you so much it's my privilege to be on this podcast thank you for hosting me look forward to doing more things together and building for the greater good of the society and the community keep inspiring every young indian and be the torch bearer and the playmaker for many more entrepreneurs like me and you are in a way a big play maker for the people who are listening to these podcasts as well i


people who are listening to these podcasts as well i i hope so brother uh for you man like just it's i don't even wanna call it a privilege but it's an honor to have you on the same team thank you crazy thank you bro so that was the episode with vishnu prasad in the age of gen z the probably the most intelligent generation till today you often don't hear of stories where the power focus has been at the forefront i think that gen z is the most high potential generation that this planet has seen but there needs to be reference points of stories like this millennial stories that contain the power focus as the central theme that's what i gained from vishnu prasad story he enjoys business he does it with his full force and that's why he's a successful entrepreneur today extremely proud that by service is also tying up with vishnu's company to bring you something very special that you guys will see very soon please keep following vishnu's handles our handles on social media


keep following vishnu's handles our handles on social media lots of huge updates coming your way as well that was the episode for today i often get told to bring more founders on the show and that's what we're going to do from now on that entrepreneurship wave has hit india finally and lots more business stories lots more inspiration coming your way on the runway show very soon [Music] you


it's almost like i'm blushing with you stop stop and recently now after i fix my sleep schedule i've started having these crazy vivid dreams i've been on a trek i've met the prime minister of pakistan this morning they had a full-on conversation with someone i was telling joey tribiani from friends that we can make content for old people like there's a lot of your internal comments in 2045 and i can do a backflip and then i cut to someone else all right not gonna give you too much of an intro i'm just going to say the trs which is now one of the world's biggest podcasts was inspired by this person's podcast some of you might have heard of it it's called khan masti jose and suresh menon created khan masti about a decade ago he's one of the funniest human beings in the indian media space he's got his own cult fan following uh the child in me the fan in me was extremely excited for this particular episode and i


was extremely excited for this particular episode and i hope that you enjoy this comedic podcast with jose kovaco on the ranvi show [Music] hey don't need to clap and all it's okay i mean it's all right it's okay it's not that big a deal kyogre dude good meeting you we we've had this conversation 24 years ago sinki uh let's do let's do a recording together and i said yeah yeah i'll just uh [ __ ] really you know it's been forever you want to know fun fact yeah oh when i been scared no yeah see this is drs it automatically goes on inspirational tangents and i'm trying to move away from it man like so you called me i'm trying to move away from inspiration i'm trying to bring humor and i also feel comedians have a very intense sense of uh satire and intense sense of self commentary oh crap let's see how this goes then uh the fun fact is uh seven years ago uh i began my youtube


is uh seven years ago uh i began my youtube channel and i used to put up cooking videos and fitness videos to teach people how to make paneer and omelette and all right okay and uh i would tweet my paneer videos at random twitter celebrities and i tweeted maybe hundreds of everything and only two responded and retweeted me are you serious i didn't read it you read read it oh thank god what luck this would have been a messed up moment oh [ __ ] i retweeted it what's wrong with me my omelette recipe dude thank you i vaguely remember this i should have spent more time with you i had way more followers today you should time travel really when did this happen 2015 but uh your fan following is a very very hardcore i'm a part of that [Music] seven eight years now i can't even remember the last time we did that podcast like the pandemic sort of destroyed everything because we would do that do it like this sit in place this is the first time i'm


this sit in place this is the first time i'm getting out of my house by the way for ranveer because of that omelette recipe i was like that guy from the 1990s who sent me the omelette thing um there's just so many data points you have i've heard a lot of kannamasti khanmati probably is my favorite podcast ever like more than jorgen experience more than our podcast more than anything this would explain all your videos on semen retention now i know what's wrong with you that we because you listened to khan master we destroyed your mind i'm sorry [Laughter] can be nice people also yeah like us guys please take this in the right way dude i followed a lot of you i followed you from mtv what's up and oh [ __ ] where i had like a small animal hanging on my chin like that i didn't realize how weird it looked and no one told me also i spent years thinking that school and all and but there was like a big


school and all and but there was like a big like a rat here you know like someone killed a rat stuck it over there and they said sora and then there were people who would say you know sir maybe up now what the [ __ ] is wrong with the people why would you do that to yourself and when i look at those old videos i'm like [ __ ] i look like that where were all the stylists bro you kind of have looked the same throughout like like you said i still look like that damn it i've tried not to usually media professionals jizz when i say things like that you still look the same as you no no no no it's like looking at your old content yeah like shitty cabinet should i delete it it's got a lot of views uh i don't know uh what about the life angle in terms of uh do you think about like your future [ __ ] like that because we've been doing a lot of bollywood podcast lately and do those guys especially


bollywood podcast lately and do those guys especially i think the women we've spoken to on the show are much more stupid but the guys are all taking a lot of stress dude they're all really stressed women in general are more sorted i guess so yeah that makes sense that actually makes sense you can have like some statistics out have we had 10 guests out of the 10 guests nine cried nine were men no we've had a lot of guys cry on the show in retrospect now i think about it i think guys in general take a lot more stress no no no that i don't think that's right guys uh have it like kind of bent up picked up yeah i think maybe women watching this those idiots how they're discussing us see [Laughter] producers they're also like she's tweeting someone right now they're discussing our emotions they don't know anything i think everybody goes to some form of it it's like the other thing of um you can't be at your peak uh


thing of um you can't be at your peak uh for your whole life and that's something that has take you got to come to terms with and in my case though i'd i've never wanted to be at my peak anyway so it's kind of like helped in some sense because i'm sort of like coasting along and just like if i have a thought i'll make a video out of it and they did well they did value this then oh no i'm sort of like chilling so i think it's good to come to terms with the fact that you can't be at the top all the time so there will come and everybody will go through this like um like i see people discussing they'll discuss celebrities in this way where they'll say alright this person used to be they've aged they're living their lives it's normal how can someone who was at their peak 20 years ago still be at their peak today there are of course exceptions like amitabh bachchan will always be like top top top level you know


will always be like top top top level you know what i mean so so yeah that's something i want to think about a lot also but that's at a cost you know yeah but yeah you have to want it also yeah and even being at the top is there's definitely a cost you're giving away so much of yourself you have to sell your soul a little bit and that's always been like the opposite of what i want to do i don't even want to get out of the house forget betting my soul bro so yeah my god what deep again you are a good conversationalist at the starting of this podcast i i didn't expect this but well done sir i love that swami impression that you break into rude yes mr chidambaram will you have santa dosa it's almost like i'm blushing with you stop stop revealing so i just told you outside how uh trs was directly inspired from kanmusti the format etc etc uh why why did you start a podcast big mistake


why why did you start a podcast big mistake is that why it didn't do well initially and then you were like let me pivot to something more acceptable no i think people just expect serious content from me dude i'm bracketed by audiences honestly at this stage it's fine i and here's the actual question i have for you how do i get funny as like a creator as a creator are you supposed to only create what's inside because my humor is very dark offensive and maybe sometimes sexual and so i think it's going to get me into trouble with it so especially considering the contrast you go from inspirational stuff to then suddenly crack a sex joke people are like what the [ __ ] is happening yeah so i think there's only up to go and your podcast is doing fantastically well bro i'm i'm just oh we were leading up to this it's doing fantastically well right it's good uh i i want i'm curious about the future i'm curious about the future [Music]


the future i'm curious about the future [Music] i'm curious about the future but you can adapt i mean if it does i'd really doubt you'll be in a spot where it's not doing well because you have amazing guests you have great conversation and and i go through i mean i've gone through all the comments people are loving it so i mean do you still watch porn yeah of course why do you watch nicely done but oh you mean real porn i thought you meant like [Laughter] why do i watch porn oh god why do people watch porn i don't know i'm gonna have to check with my wife if this is okay but uh i don't know why i ever started watching porn in the first place mama i'm really sorry watching this oh god damn my mom watches all my youtube videos really yeah even she's got a phone she goes through everything so this friend of mine watches porn [Music] as a culture also we're not used to talking about this openly but um


not used to talking about this openly but um joys of youtube i think we all started watching porn when we were younger i remember somebody had a book somewhere like oh what is that a horse oh no that's not a horse okay and uh then it's just something you end up doing more and more but not as much as i used to i guess i'm also in this unique space in my life now where i've reached like i said i've reached that midpoint in my life some things are just more important now than other things and pawn took a backseat sometime back i started spending more time in video games nice and consuming content and movies and what video games do you play i play freaking anything i can get my hands on man mostly so before it was the first person shooters and stuff like that but then um then once you become a dad you need to be able to pause the game so we've gone from pawn to first person to the pausing game but uh you need to be


to the pausing game but uh you need to be able to pause the game so i started playing um what's it called turn based turn-based strategy oh okay okay then like clash of clans no no not clash of clans clashing is more like a real-time strategy but yeah i've played clash of clans also i'm not ashamed to admit it i'm more ashamed to say that i've played clash of clans that's funny yes i watch porn but clash of clans clash of clans spend a lot of time in clash of clans man strangely i'm not a judgey video game person like oh you played these games everyone can play whatever game they feel like i guess but um then i got into virtual reality a couple of years ago like oculus oh [ __ ] which is called meta now but i had a valve index first then got the quest to what is that dude the virtual reality headset okay if you're still in the pawn yeah the word valve index just like caught


the pawn yeah the word valve index just like caught me off guard bro you're in the video okay yeah take your time do they it'll come to you you're in the video you're not liking in the video you're there bro um the one of the weirdest travel experiences i had in my life was when we went to japan uh one one of our teammates is like a big japan fan you know one of those two who says uh he insisted that we follow his travel uh list and he took us to some cool places man but on the last day he took us to a big bazaar in japan like the big bazaar japan version okay for vegetables though or for like porn i'll tell you from the outside it looks like a big bazaar you it's like a seven story building but it looks like a very normal innocent building okay and it's got everything that you could possibly need in your own life like food electronics have acts anything you need okay dude in one of the floors that


need okay dude in one of the floors that has video games actually coincidentally has one entire section which is a wall full of just a lot of variety of sex toys oh my god and section for women sex toys for men all sorts of sex toys and lube and like all sorts of stuff do you know what a fleshlight is yeah of course how can you say that you watch one of them not know i was just going to say that men don't need sex toys i mean the investment is much less like how much money have you spent on sex toys not much actually some of those that's crazy some i mean some places are far ahead in that zone apparently japan's having this problem where they're not being able to get their guys married to the japanese women uh and and the guys instead are into sex toys and into uh digital girlfriends yeah that's a bit much now you know what i mean i mean that's the narrative see that's what people people take examples like


narrative see that's what people people take examples like this and say they go on that people don't consume porn to the point where they're like they can't function at all [Music] but you know what i think as funny as this [ __ ] is there's a deeper conversation to be had here also okay i'm sorry to take you back into your podcast safe space but i feel like there's a deeper conversation because a lot of people say man pawn corrupting people yourself definitely does i mean if you lose your mind over it and that's all you're obsessing about all the time and you can't have a normal relationship with a man or a woman because of that you're doing something wrong you know what i mean there's a big hole in your phone they're doing something wrong there's a hole in your soul they're doing something wrong so um i don't know where you draw the line also because such an extreme thing now i think what what's worth is what there are some of these documentaries worth


worth is what there are some of these documentaries worth watching on how porn is made okay and how people are exploited or were exploited i don't know if they still are i'm sure they still are because they're very murky business also at the end of the day right so and a lot of it is very unreal dude you're kind of an evergreen brand man yeah thank you yeah i hope so let's see how it goes like there's a lot of your internal come that's turned into 90 in 2045. dude i'm damn attracted to you like not something that happens to me often but i'll take it i'll take anything i'm desperate now like even you know i listen to you on conversation comic timing oh it's too nice like thank you normally i'm like this is there anything to eat what's for dinner that's me on a normal day this is like hello hello hi hi how's it going mr lyrics like like i would want or want friends like you in life okay i'm just being really


friends like you in life okay i'm just being really useful not useful to me at all thank you thank you that's that's a good thing right i guess and i think all the conversative viewers feel like that yeah people are yeah i think that that does happen so when people feel like that about you then they're also far more over familiar in the comments right you know they're like yeah you can do better than this please like bro you i don't even know you why are you talking to me like that have you ever had a ghost experience oh my god i have but as a kid though go go and tell us so when i was a kid i thought i saw like this dark silhouette come out from behind the curtains in my bedroom come out grab hold of my neck and start squeezing slowly could have been a family member also i don't know no probably not and i was like mom my mom just happened go back to sleep and this thing was still sort of like


to sleep and this thing was still sort of like choking me and uh i think i said a prayer or something i can't even remember and then i saw like back away and it left and it remembers a kid thinking man that looks like batman so how old are you i don't know i can't remember i think i was in the eighth or ninth standard so not that young also but not that old also and i also feel like as a kid you're not completely fully formed up there so it could have been it could have been a dream [Music] and recently now after i fix my sleep schedule i've started having these crazy vivid dreams bro i wake up exhausted i've been on a trek i've met the prime minister of pakistan i have spent a whole night looking for my car and i remember proper details of everything this morning they had a full-on conversation with someone i was telling joey tribiani from friends that we can make content for old people [Laughter] so as you


make content for old people [Laughter] so as you can see this there was a discussion about being old and content wrong that sort of like jumped in and now i remember every single detail of my dreams i'm going mad i'm going literally bonkers this is happening as of now yeah so when i go to sleep i'm gonna i'm gonna dream i'm gonna dream that i was in a podcast and uh and there was this snake there and the and the post was not listening to me after the whole message he was telling me about come and i'm like snake snake there he's like no no but the snake has come man i'm going bonkers literally this is happening to me right now why did you get married why good question um i feel like i got married because i found the person who i thought i think [ __ ] [ __ ] sorry darling uh no no she knows don't kill me i found the person who i could see myself with till the end why what do you


myself with till the end why what do you mean why why why could you see yourself with her till the end because of myself i was like yeah i get it who wants to get married no no why because because she's amazing she has my back i trust her completely and she's my best friend and conversation yeah big uh best friend comes in that zone so if you can't have a conversation with somebody it's does she also enjoy a toilet humor like you no my wife doesn't want to listen to any of this [ __ ] a lot of my content is that she's like uh just go do it on the internet but uh i do feel like opposites attract though [Music] how crazy i mean i'm sure people who are in the same spectrum also enjoy each other's life it must be quite a kind of boring how did you guys meet dude wow so we met at mtv she was a director producer ignored me for a couple of months and then we just went out


a couple of months and then we just went out on a date or whatever and we just clicked and that was that so you dated for a while before marriage yeah we did it for about a year i mean dating what does that mean in this country sir yell dance the american concept of dating and abroad you'll end up seeing more than one person at the same time here you get asked if you try to do something like that i also don't recommend you see more than one person at the same time because then you're you're splitting yourself between people you can't get to know someone really unless you give it your all you're giving only 50 of yourself to one person then you're like eight minute pause so what about you you know what i mean i don't think that makes sense maybe it works for some people maybe it works um but i feel like if you're gonna get into anything with someone give it your all even if it gets screwed even if it if it goes down the toilet


even if it if it goes down the toilet whatever at least you will have given it your all and then you know have you had a bad heartbreak in your life yesterday oh dude yeah i was i mean see fortunately i can talk about these things because nobody knows who those people are otherwise it would be totally wrong for me to discuss this in public because then you bring that person really weird position is your ex famous no okay i mean relatively i don't know oh okay she started many films marketing um no hopefully not no one knows no one would know at least hopefully because i was never public with my relationships or anything like that and i've checked on google also you won't find any results i was engaged to someone before this happened that engagement uh we called it off and then i met my to be wife who i am now married to the child why did you call it off so should happen that something happened in the relationship i i don't want to like say anything about


relationship i i don't want to like say anything about how she was over here but we were not basically when neither of us was ready it was a really tough call but like our families and i'll admit and i honestly think it was one of the best things i could have done or we could have done for each other because otherwise then you're you're committing to something that you're not fully sure about and that's the last thing you should do with anybody never get to never get into a marriage thinking [Music] that's the worst [ __ ] you can do what what happens to your life in the month immediately after marriage like what do you realize then the first month is great actually because you're like wow everything's so great yeah let's stretch that timeline you're coming down from that high you know it's happening nicely i think it's in your second month second third month we're like this is how you live you keep your towel here [ __ ] put all the lights off so


here [ __ ] put all the lights off so you start you'll start seeing where your space ends and theirs begins what does the kid feel like in your hand for the first time oh my god i was [ __ ] scared i was just holding her like that and they had just taken her out my wife had a c-section they took her out and they handed the baby to me and said you have to take her to that whatever they put on a scale or something and then they put the baby through some uv lights and stuff to deal with the jaundice and [ __ ] like that and i'm like why me bro i mean are you serious i'm holding her and they and she they weigh nothing they weigh literally nothing like your phone feels heavier it's crazy i mean i took when i was just looking this and in my case i had no connection with the child at all i remember taking her i was just in shock that the human being was in my i was just worried that man


being was in my i was just worried that man i'm gonna drop her so i really very carefully took her put over there i remember she had this look on her face like she looked like an old lady she was like that it was very funny and um then we got home and stuff a couple of weeks later and i remember thinking i have no i felt like and people said you know once your child comes your life is changed forever and i was like corny i just i felt nothing and one night i was sitting by myself and i and i was like man what if she doesn't want to be friends with me i don't know why i had that thought but i said what if she doesn't want to be friends with me and i was just holding her and then she just grabbed hold of me and man in that moment i think i fell in love in that moment and then i was like i will protect this child with everything i have. [Laughter] it was so bonkers man so


have. [Laughter] it was so bonkers man so crazy and i remember thinking man in all these movies and all these discussions people have they say that your life will change the moment you hold your child but for me it was like a week later i remember telling my wife i said what if she doesn't want to be friends with what the hell are you talking about get tissues from that side the wife is going through all the pain i'm like you don't want to be friends with them very stark change of topic from what was he like back in the day like did you know that this is trajectory um is a gem bro my god and um so where what what can i tell you about aishwaan so dude is so hard working he's meticulous and he's determined i mean complete contrast to me but when we first started i remember uh vijaying days and we'd all be in the same green room yeah with this that no this is not what 2009 it's more than more than 10 years ago


2009 it's more than more than 10 years ago when he said man i'm gonna [ __ ] do bollywood i'm gonna become an actor and i'm gonna do it and i remember we were having a conversation and it had already been a couple of years of him giving it his all every [ __ ] day going for those those auditions really like working his ass off and i remember saying i said dude it's all and we were having this like heartfelt conversation we'd all be really all great friends talking to each other and stuff and um and i said man are you super sure about this because it's been a while you're really killing it he was like i will do it and then he did it [Music] which proves that if you want to do stuff like that you have to really want it you can't just be like they cling it and i think it doesn't really work for it it also proves that mumbai gives you the opportunity yeah yeah willing to work for it yeah


opportunity yeah yeah willing to work for it yeah and aisha didn't have any like god fathers as such or anything he did everything by himself the hard way then what mad respect him for that man that's really something did you get to work with raghu yeah yeah the first time i met raghu so rhodes was at its peak and i think they had called me in first time i went to mtv they called me in my first interview okay i thought i was going in there to go for a to be a vj and all the person interviewing me thought that i was there for a sales job and 20 minutes into it i was like i think there's some miscommunication here they're asking me what sales and numbers and all and i was like okay i answered all the questions because i had a bit of background in radio and also i did but then i was like okay anyway second time then the vj sort of like interview happened here but i met raghu and raghu met me and that this


met raghu and raghu met me and that this explains why i had the rat on my chin but raghu looked at me and said [Music] yeah i think that that's understood it's implied you don't have to say it you have a weak chin so i was like i haven't even said hello so he's like you have a chin that's all he said to me and i don't even know whether he was already or not because raghu was like that he sometimes he'd just be screwing a very chill guy um he said you have a weak chin and he left and he left on that two month roadies this thing you know and you know i'm left with just this thought i ended up growing a big ass goatee like that you oh what's up youngest [ __ ] crazy that's drunkers why did raghu leave mtv and like you know why did it kind of i don't know man i think i think a lot of stuff just runs its course man you can't be doing the


just runs its course man you can't be doing the same thing all the time of course exceptions to the rule like i did radio for 10 years um rahu did roadies for so many years sometimes things just run run their course and i feel like uh people also on different places in their lives he must have felt like he wanted to do something else maybe the channel wanted something i don't know for sure what happened but then they parted ways but then he came back after that there was one year where he left they did another version everyone's like so then they brought raghu back then he i think he did a couple more seasons and then he was like okay bus [Music] he took that show to another level yeah i think roadies for a lot of urban kids at least it's very synonymous with him do they have to run around with bodyguards and stuff because people thought he was like that like really and if i'm going to hit him yeah yeah people would threaten him and stuff so they had to


people would threaten him and stuff so they had to run around with bodyguards and sometimes rajiv would get the because but crazy there was some mansion we tried to do a bit of those radio call-ins and on youtube only yeah yeah people started calling in like really sad and [ __ ] and i was like listen i can't we're not qualified to help you i can help you if you say that your girlfriend saved your numbers number three on the phone but i can't help you if you're genuinely going through a problem you need to speak to a family member or get real help and that's not very entertaining on youtube right it's really like heavy [ __ ] so then we can that also i was like i uh we'll link all your handles i think everybody who's consumed it till this point is on your instagram page etc etc finally some followers but i'm also going to link some of my favorite kanmusti episodes don't don't guys unfollow ranveer he's about to ruin your life


unfollow ranveer he's about to ruin your life just uh thank you man thank you i'm feeling jokes i'm smelling things that's me i'm very sorry about that but this is long overdue we should have met like really long ago right man crazy it's all good homie and and are the guests allowed to give their reviews yeah yeah please very good thank you guys no i remember this starting we were just joking on and then we was like bro i'm not saying anything right now i'm a decent conversationalist and i was like okay and he is oh my god bro thank you i hope i've not ended up saying more than i should have i can't even remember now i can tell you you got me in a bit of a trance and i'm like [ __ ] no no you said some safe stuff did not yeah but now it's time for the offline conversations which i'm looking forward to even more oh yeah of course thanks for having me man mad [ __ ] man mr jay


having me man mad [ __ ] man mr jay thank you thank you brother great fun lots of love that was the episode with jose i enjoyed just being near him trust me there was uh a podcast on even when the cameras weren't rolling after the camera stopped rolling we actually went into much deeper darker conversations things that can't make it to the internet and that's honestly the sad reality of our times we talk about free speech a lot um the internet has reached the stage where you can't really express yourself openly on the internet you are going to offend someone somewhere you are going to get cancelled somewhere lots of folks not just jose or myself lots of folks we've had on the show hesitate to talk openly on this podcast because it's just not the culture of the indian internet anymore it is a sad reality i hope that it changes if it does truly change lots more comedic content coming your way lots more comedy podcasts coming your way i hope that you


comedy podcasts coming your way i hope that you enjoyed this slightly hotkey episode of the ranvi show tell me how we can improve trs as i've always said we're just getting started lots more comedians coming your way on this show do give us your comedic guest recommendations for trs as well drop them in the comments section thank you for listening [Music] so [Music]


many women would do good at shooting than many men would so you give a woman a weapon and she's somehow able to get shooting a lot more easy injuries are a part of anything that you do yeah in my forces you know 25 years of training the forces i have had several injuries i've had a back injury i've had a head injury a bit so i fell on my head i was concussed during the process of training the process imagine a life where you've broken close to every single bone in your body imagine a life where you've dedicated your entire professional career to the indian military imagine a life where you faced the peak of physical pain and still mastered martial arts that's the story of dr c marow professionally she's known to have trained special forces commandos for over 20 years but when you get to know her on a personal level you get to realize a very different human perspective someone who's lived a very alternate life to the ones that you cure off or to


life to the ones that you cure off or to the ones you get to meet in a regular urban center very fascinating mind very fascinating perspectives on pain on martial arts but most importantly it's been a very fascinating life that see maharao has lived we're going to talk about that live on this episode of the runway show this one's a must watch for every single girl out there especially but of course every single guy as well vrs is a spotify exclusive for more fantastic life stories like this make sure you follow us on spotify every episode is available on spotify 48 hours before it's available anywhere else in the world so for now i'll let you slip into this fantastic episode with dr seema rao [Music] dr simara welcome to the ranvi show such an honor having you on the show thank you nice to be here as well you are a legend when it comes to the indian armed forces you've trained countless armed forces personnel how did this journey begin for you like and not


how did this journey begin for you like and not not professionally speaking but even before that you're the daughter of a freedom fighter was that the inception of this idea of serving your country yes i think it is a patriotism that runs in my veins that was responsible in a way my journey started 25 years back you know they say that intense desire creates its own talents and opportunities and as a child i think i always wanted to do something for my country this was also because of the stories i heard about the freedom struggle from my father the right opportunity came across me i happened to be at the right place at the right time and one thing led to the other and 25 years of my life i've spent going to hostile locations training commandos of many forces and it's been very satisfying and it's been very uh honorable work for me oh uh we're honestly honored to have you on the show for this exact reason uh primarily due to your experiences i feel


reason uh primarily due to your experiences i feel like the things you've seen in 25 years there's very few human beings who would have that range of experiences that kind of a spectrum so how do you look back at like these 25 years at this stage of your life uh you know how would you describe it in terms of when you're looking back at your own life yeah uh do you look at it with a sense of accomplishment uh do you look at it with a sense of learning like what's in your mind when you scan back well um the fact that i trained the commanders of the indian forces uh there was obviously uh you know never any underestimation because i was dealing with the you know commandos who are highly trained with the highest levels of endurance uh you know highest skills so it was always uh you know every course that i uh you know went for it was also a course of which humbled me in a sense because i was dealing with commandos um but yeah i had to


dealing with commandos um but yeah i had to show them what i had the kind of skills that i had shared my skills with them and train them so it was always so very humbling at the same time a very satisfying experience for me why humbling humbling because i'm dealing with commandos they're the best that there are in the forces i mean they are doing so much of work when it comes to you know safeguarding the country so they highly trained so obviously it will there will be a certain degree of humility and no underestimation uh well i did have certain skills and uh you know contributions uh credentials etc so i could contribute uh in a certain way so that's how it went so so we also have like teenagers pre-teens who listen to the show who may not have a complete understanding of how the indian armed forces operates so for them could you just quickly explain what a commando is a commando is a soldier who is highly trained okay who has very high


who is highly trained okay who has very high levels of endurance who is able to do almost 30 40 kilometer you know marches long marches uh he may have to be para dropped into enemy territory uh do what he has to do that is uh the goal would be an op it could be anything and uh he would have to execute the action he has to and then he would have to come back you know to friendly lines and sometimes coming back would be is very difficult almost impossible so that's the kind of for you know person we're looking at so a commando in a way is is a very specialized uh soldier who has a lot of capabilities and who's going to do a very difficult task and who has to return back but uh sometimes he may not return back so he's ready to give up his life got it um in terms of the skills you were speaking about imparting to them through training i have a couple of questions for you yeah uh one what were the skills that you


you yeah uh one what were the skills that you specifically transferred all right and two when you say commando training could you give a little bit of context on that in terms of the timeline of a soldier's life uh when does the commando training start i'll let me tell you what my subject is so my subject is close quarter battle and close quarter battle basically deals with what happens between uh the commando or the the soldier and the enemy when the distance is about 30 yards or extendable to 100 yards so close quarter battle is very different from long distance warfare close quarter battle over my subject would include you know armed and unarmed combat so armed combat would be uh you know when weapon to hand or hand to weapon okay so weapon to hand is when i have a weapon and you are empty handed it could be also a you know hand to weapon so a hand to weapon weapon to hand weapon to weapon where both have a weapon and there's unarmed combat where nobody has a weapon but they're


unarmed combat where nobody has a weapon but they're fighting you know just purely with their unarmed combat skills besides that you also have shooting as a part of a close quarter battle and then you have cqb simulation exercises and you have team on team tactics so team on team tactics is where one team goes and actually faces another team so there are a lot of protocols involved with that how to move etc etc and finally it's about close quarter battle simulation exercises so where you simulate a certain situation and expect the the you know the team to perfect their skills how had you got the training for well um i had certain skills you know i um i had done certain survival courses i you know i'm a seven degree black belt in military martial arts uh i was a crack shot what was very good i was very good at shooting uh because i was a member of a local sports club and i found that my skills were good and besides that uh you know a lot of i've


besides that uh you know a lot of i've done some courses here and there and finally like i mentioned that uh there was a meeting with the very senior police official and this is how the journey started so uh there was a meeting with a senior police official who happened to see the skills that i had and he said why don't you come and actually give a demonstration to the force i went i gave a demonstration then he said why don't you come and train them and i went and trained them and then from there the journey started what is military martial arts is it like a combination of different martial arts uh it's a martial art that deals with the what a soldier should do okay so it's it's very pertaining to his the profession of being a soldier so where he could use a rifle butt to attack the enemy he could use his hard shoes so that's the the combat part you know but it's basically meant to be able to maim or kill the


meant to be able to maim or kill the enemy okay but what do you enjoy about your job specifically when we're talking about enjoyment i enjoy the challenge i enjoy the fact that it's very satisfying because going out there training commandos being in hostile locations ice-clad mountains you know scorching hot deserts um dense jungles so it depends the the terrain changes and with that the challenge is also the the environment it could be very cold so when you pick up a weapon your hands are freezing cold and you know the to to actually press the trigger of the weapon becomes very difficult but well that's that's all part of the game personally what i've learned over the seven years of my career is that i feel men and women bring different strengths to the table when they're part of the same yeah so as a woman like what kind of strengths do you bring in uh just general uh scenarios when it comes to training officers or when you see a female officer what strength do you


when you see a female officer what strength do you think she brings to the table no so let me answer that question differently uh when it comes to shooting skills i think women uh shoot a lot more easily there a lot of women are very good shots wow okay yes yes because i i don't know why but it's just that many women would do good at shooting than many men would so you give a woman a weapon and she's somehow able to get shooting a lot more easy why do you think that is have you ever i really don't know but that's what i've noticed yeah women can shoot many women can shoot quite well you know there's a lot of young girls watching this podcast in like you know they're they're kind of having the sense of admiration for you what's your message for women especially considering the kind of career you chose it's not something that you would assume girls would choose so i would say that women distinctly have a place in the forces they should pursue a


a place in the forces they should pursue a career in the forces could be any of the forces it could be the paramilitary it could be the military it could be the police as well because uh i think the percentage of women should rise in the forces secondly the message is that you know you need to decide your path so decide carefully what path you want to walk into and there will be obstacles people will sometimes think you are not capable of doing it but you need to believe in yourself you need to keep walking expect obstacles a life is not a path which just has roses you know there are also thorns there so expect the obstacles and move with conviction towards what you have to uh achieve so even in organizations what a man may not be able to achieve a woman will achieve with great ease so men need to understand that women have their attributes so let them do tasks because the the your organization is going to change when you allow a woman to use her attributes uh your


you allow a woman to use her attributes uh your father i feel he was the kind of foundation stone behind everything you did in your own life and the trajectory of your life uh it says that he was a freedom fighter on wikipedia yeah but uh would you like to shed some more light on that i he if i'm correct uh he fought the portuguese in goa yes so my father was a freedom fighter who was involved in the pa in the freedom struggle uh to liberate goa from the portuguese regime and he told me a lot of stories as a child about how he would actually go about doing those things so there was one story in which he was imprisoned in a jail with her and what he did was he escaped from the jail with a fellow inmate he swam across the mandavi river moved to safety and then continued with participating in the freedom struggle and then he would also tell me these stories where uh you know they would uh the the freedom


where uh you know they would uh the the freedom fighters would sometimes meet at uh late hours at three o'clock at night in some old shed in some remote village where they would not even light lamps would just be one small lamp and they would actually be discussing how to go about getting their freedom and uh so a lot of such stories he would tell me and then he was blacklisted and eventually my grandfather told him to go move to bombay and then when he came to bombay he studied and then you know became uh headed the department of philosophy in iit bombay so he did all then had a family etc but uh he had a huge impact on my mind because i think as a child when you hear all this you realize that uh in a way i was also excited listening to the stories but i think somewhere i thought that i too should try to do something contribute in my own way to the country in terms of martial arts are you still practicing very much okay


martial arts are you still practicing very much okay do you have any favored martial arts um i started with uh jeet kundu and jeet kune do is bruce lee's art yeah so it's not only an art it's also a philosophy a fact not really known by people because people see bruce lee as just somebody who kicks and punches and you know has that ki that he gives but it's also a philosophy and it's uh you know you know you heard of a mixed martial art so the father of mixed martial art is bruce lee he's considered the father of mma because he's the first one who brought together different ranges of fighting so it's like kicking his one range so he brought together kicking punching grappling throwing a person down hitting so he combined everything and he said that fighting has to be free so it's not that you stick to any one range the philosophical part of that is uh object can do is that it is simple there


uh object can do is that it is simple there are certain things like simplicity directness effectivity and non-conditional which means that these are the principles you can apply to your life as well simplicity is where you use less resource to do anything directness is where you take a shorter detour no long detours effectivities whatever you're doing has to be effective and non-traditional is you must always think out of the box so that's the philosophical aspect of fajit kundu which uh you know i happen to be a senior instructor in jeet kune do suppose somebody does a neck choke on you now you don't really have to try to get out of the neck joke you simply can poke his eyes you can slam your hand into his groin you can kick his knee you can stomp his foot so these are very simple things but very effective things which can get you out of a mess um so i'm a judo brown belt myself i i couldn't get my black belt but when


i i couldn't get my black belt but when i look back at judo starting training at the age of 10 it was the most impactful thing i did for my whole childhood right and it set certain uh mindsets which i carried into every aspect of my life including my career including the way i look at life including my own sense of personal discipline like what did you carry to be good at judo you need to be hyper aware yeah or especially in randori so if you become very much observant about other people's body language about especially the match how the where they're putting their own way yeah how they're attacking you need to be physically strong yourself absolutely to be able to do that you have to go through training so it just set discipline in my life and honestly i had too many anger issues growing up because of some own personal reasons and it just helped me channelize that anger probably throughout life it's one of my life's regrets that have not stuck to the process because i


that have not stuck to the process because i had some injuries and then i just kind of stopped judo life happened etc but at some point yeah but you know what injuries are a part of anything that you do yeah like uh in my forces of you know 25 years of training the forces i have had several injuries i've had a back injury i've had a head injury where i fell on my head i was concussed during the process of training the forces so i've been concussed and have i have had amnesia or i've had a lot of fractures what is amnesia amnesia is a part of your memory being erased what was your memory like when you go through it you feel terrible you feel like the delete button just pressed off all your memories you don't know who you are where you are what your name is where you live it's a terrible feeling because you're suddenly just uh it's like a brain fog where you just don't know what's happening you don't know who


don't know what's happening you don't know who you are i mean what can be worse than that are you comfortable sharing the story of how it happened yeah of course um i was at a forces location and uh my i a soldier came i was in an unarmed combat session and the session was about to end when a soldier came and uh you know he told me whispered that my dad was no more so there was still about five ten minutes for the session to end so when i heard that i was obviously uh you know hurt sad but obviously you can't show your emotions so i just held on and i continued and i was about to end the session when one of the trainees said ma'am i would like to wrestle this this i'm doing this style of wrestling can you correct me so i tried to i wrestled with him or you know you corrected him there was another guy who again came and said ma'am could you you know grapple with me and you


could you you know grapple with me and you know correct what my form etc so i did that as well and as i was about to end there was this thought chap who came in who said that ma'am you know why don't you grapple with me and i uh i think i uh sensed a little bit of challenge in his voice so i said okay and while i grappled with him uh you know i was almost done with the whole thing and i was almost going to lock him when he suddenly lifted my lifted me up and threw me down on the ground i guess this must have happened because i lost focus because i was at the part of my mind was thinking about my dad's death he lifted me up and threw me down on the ground and i landed on my head and i was knocked out so i was concussed when i opened my eyes i was in hospital and uh i was looking up at the ceiling uh with amnesia so no memory of anything my husband was by


so no memory of anything my husband was by my side so i could recognize him well i guess if you're married then you you don't forget who your husband is so so anyway so and that was the time i think i realized that okay now this is going to be a tough journey you know injuries uh obstacles are a part of life and one must try to not allow them to be in the way because everyone's life has obstacles of different kinds but you need to you know surpass them your wikipedia says that you've broken every bone in your body yeah meaning i have fractured a lot of uh yeah bones because after i've had like two shoulder surgeries again because of the judo and uh i think i'm over it now done a lot of recovery but it was painful and i felt it did change me a bit i can't imagine the kind of physical pain you've gone through they say women have a higher pain tolerance who am i to know but when you're holding that


who am i to know but when you're holding that much experience or pain does it do anything to your mind as well pain can break you or it can make you so it depends on how you look at pain if you look at pain as a stepping stone towards strength then it's fine it works for you um i want to ask you specifically about bruce lee i feel that that man didn't just give a lot to the world of martial arts he gave a lot to the world of human philosophy human thought processes uh he's actually become like an icon whose impact has gone beyond that one generation of 70s born or 80s born human beings like uh you have kids even today teenagers who know who he is who know what he stood for and all uh but technically you're a student of his philosophy what his philosophy and his art his art um what have you learned so so he is the first one who said that uh fighting is not popping the air in front of you okay


is not popping the air in front of you okay so traditional ads deal with popping the air in front of you whereas bruce lee said that you need to have an opponent in front of you and you need to go all out no holds bad so that's where it first started where they were they used to wear gloves and headgear and shoes and plane clothes that they would just go all out and fight so that's what fighting is and that's what now mma is where you see people going all out did you watch bruce lee movies as well of course what's your favorite one i think all of them and i watched them again and again to see everything that he was doing every minute kick punch everything what's a good starting point for someone who wants to get introduced to blue sleeve movies according to you they should there are a lot of his movies uh mainly game of death vista fury enter the dragon and the big boss yeah okay so these are his movies primarily and which uh yeah


so these are his movies primarily and which uh yeah anyone who is a martial art enthusiast will love the way he moves the way he fights the passion that he has the intensity that he has so that is what uh if someone wants to do combat then that's that's what he should do um do you read books as well i read when i get time i read them what do you read about no i do a lot of casual reading okay okay like kill stuff um the one of the most iconic podcasts we've ever created or like 300 episodes or so was with major jacob major very jacob have you had a chance of like working with him as well no i i don't think so okay um so i'll tell you what i was getting to uh so recently i got back from dubai uh where i had my first skydiving experience and it was fantastic i don't think i'll do it again it's just not for me uh i'm sure you've done countless uh i have


uh i'm sure you've done countless uh i have done my jumps yeah okay so i had trained the air force commandos they called the garage so a post that i wrote to the air chief then and i told him that i'd like to do my jumps so i went to the air force and did my jumps with them and i owned my wings so that was quite an experience and when you're up there in the sky looking down okay uh you wonder what it's going to be like to jump there you know to jump and then you're just landing into actually when you jump you expect to meet the ground immediately but you don't uh what kind of conversations do you and your husband have considering that he also does a similar job to you in the world my husband is uh honorary major deeper crowd he's the pioneer of close quarter battle and he's one of the six indians to have received the president-rank honor he received this uh honor about uh many years back with ms


this uh honor about uh many years back with ms dhoni the cricketer and abhinav india the shooter and so he's also we are we are similar we uh in a way our journey has been together uh so there have been times when we've leaned on each other taken support from each other improvised uh you know stuff together uh had out of the box ideas worked them together so we we make a very good in the forces a lot of times officers would call us the ideal body pair so if you know what that is yola the ideal body it's where i know that if he's there behind me he's gonna watch my back and the same means it's like a tremendous confidence that you have in your body and you have perfect harmony and synchronization in what you do so what are your conversations like with your husband um on several things if we have an argument over something it's not about who wins me or he it's about the idea that has to win so we have


about the idea that has to win so we have a very objective uh discussion i don't it's not an argument but it's like a debate so we decide okay these are your points and these are my my points and then which outweigh the other and that's how we reach the right decision so it's never about your idea my idea it's about the ideal idea then besides that um we uh yeah we we work together and we chill out together we have a good understanding i don't like to call him a husband i prefer to call him my partner in life because he has been supportive to me i like i have been supportive to him we always believe that one plus one should be eleven no fair how did you guys meet back in the day yeah so we met in college we were uh he was four years my senior and medical college and we got along well and he used to pursue martial art as a hobby and i was always interested in getting strong because in school back in


always interested in getting strong because in school back in school you know certain incidents where you bullied around pushed around that's something that i always wanted to change about myself so i met him and then decided to start martial art we decided to get married and start our life early and um so it went well then there was this one incident that completely changed everything you must have heard of that the the the road incident you want me to talk yeah if you're comfortable okay so actually that's like sending me down memory lane like years years back so we used to go to chopati to train in the morning to do our martial art training and then from there we would proceed with the day's routine so there was this one day where we went to do our training and it was in the morning around seven o'clock so there's a small patch of sand you know if you've seen chop party so we went down that and like a secluded place and then we were doing our training and there were these


then we were doing our training and there were these three rack pickers who were just walking past so suddenly one of them said some very vulgar demeaning things to me so we could hear them but we didn't want to stop our uh you know practice and you know the the focus so we continued those guys went off and we finished training it was around 8 39 in the morning it was a very exhaustive the sun was up and we are returning back when we saw these guys standing at a distance and they were you know passing remarks at women who were passing by so my husband said okay fine you see that that's your fight and i looked at him and i tried to protest but he just moved out from there but we had to move in that direction so i walked and i wanted it to be finished whatever that you know the confrontation so as i walked fast suddenly i was with my head down i was just about i think 17 18 years old and one of those


i think 17 18 years old and one of those guys came and stood in front of me and you know kind of dancing like this and uh bad gesturing so i moved to the left he came and stood in front of me i moved to the right he again came and stood in front of me and slowly i obviously couldn't move ahead so i looked up at his face and he had this lewd grin on his face and uh my heart was beating fast and i was really very scared but just seeing that face of his and the expression he had on his face i took my hand slapped him across his face hard so he reeled back with the slap and he came angrily and tried to headbutt me so as he tried to headbutt me i just lifted my knee high up and he got a hard shot on his head in the meanwhile there was one of his friends who opened up this knife and just came and slashed it across uh my reflexes were good so i


it across uh my reflexes were good so i just moved out so the t-shirt tore but not my skin i grabbed his hand and i threw him down and within by that time there were some people who gathered over there and then i just moved away from that place but i think that is the first time when i realized what it is to change from weakness to strength it was a very different kind of feeling that i sensed then which i carried throughout my life which was like that if you want you can change who you are you can conquer some of your fears and i also believe in this the saying that i had read long back was the me you see is the me will be so it's always what you picture yourself to be and of course if you move in that direction and you picture someone there yourself that's where you'll actually end up being people perceive you like you perceive yourself it's the same yeah it's it's an image it's like positive visualization so it's


it's an image it's like positive visualization so it's like if you keep positive visualization and and like see for example if an underconfident person who's extremely um unsure of himself in situations if he were to visualize himself and the situation where he's going he's talking to people whatever it is that he's under confident about if he goes visualizes that he's going there he's talking to people he's shaking hands with them he's speaking to them he's smiling he's looking into their eyes and talking with confidence now this kind of visualization will actually bring about a change in him so that's the music you will be so what you see yourself is usually and if you walk on that path then you eventually do reach that incredibly inspiring just like hearing uh your origin story if i may and you're reading about all your experiences uh i do feel i've only tapped into one tenth of your mind and experiences but that's perfectly fine uh not one-tenth uh 120th maybe do you


fine uh not one-tenth uh 120th maybe do you have any feedback for me ma'am i think uh you're doing a nice job and i wish you success in what you're doing and keep at it have very high goals the sky is the limit for all of us and keep going you can keep improvising you can give me the bad feedback as well there's no bad feedback okay there's no bad feedback okay does martial arts give you an ability to read uh people better through body language not martial arts but uh eventually as you learn more about the mind then i think you can understand people better you learn more about the mind through your profession or in life in life in your profession everything makes you wiser with time okay yeah it's it's up to you to get wiser as well okay dr seymour thank you learned a lot from this particular podcast and i hope that uh you enjoyed the experience absolutely i did thank you ma'am thanks that was a conversation for today anything related to the indian


was a conversation for today anything related to the indian military is always a welcome theme on our podcast but what i got from this particular episode was a lot more i met a fellow martial arts student because martial arts is one of those things where you do become a lifelong student and if you've begun martial arts early in life it changes who you become it changes how you perceive life it changes how you perceive your own mind that's how impactful a mind is and trust me this wasn't an easy podcast to do her head was very difficult to get into something that i find easy with my podcast guests at this point this one wasn't easy at all and these are the podcasts that i enjoy the most more fantastic podcasts coming your way so make sure you follow us on spotify every episode's available on spotify 48 hours before it's available anywhere else in the world what i want from you guys at this stage is do suggest further guests like this hut case stories hud


suggest further guests like this hut case stories hud care perspectives all of that is coming your way on the runway show [Music]


all right so one of the most requested themes when it comes to trs is spirituality now this is someone i met last year who heavily impacted my life i won't call him a mentor because i've not met him enough but the few meetings that i've had with dada shari have been very impactful some may think of him as a monk some may think of him as a mentor for me he's just a friend he's an mbbs grad who discovered aspects of spirituality very early on in life now what those aspects are his story the nature of the pineal gland the scientific nature of spirituality these are the topics we've touched upon in this episode of the ranvi show the one thing i can definitely say is that in your own spiritual journey and every single human being has a spiritual journey which begins at different timelines for different people but every single human being has a spiritual journey and once that journey begins you end up meeting people and you end up having these deep spiritual


meeting people and you end up having these deep spiritual conversations that only enhance your spiritual sensibilities for more episodes like this follow us on spotify or spotify exclusive which means that every episode is available on spotify 48 hours before it's available anywhere else in the world i hope you enjoy this very special episode with maitreya natasha [Music] i'm honestly a little confused about how to introduce you uh and i didn't prep too much for this particular episode other than just being very excited very at peace i think i had the most beautiful sleep of my life this morning it was just magical effect like in the sleep was purposeful for this while this will eventually become a spiritual conversation of sorts uh for me it's much more a mentoring conversation for myself and these kind of episodes where i'm talking to someone who's from the world of spiritualism i usually don't prepare for yes yes i just throw my real life questions in front and i hope to receive answers yes yes thank you thank


i hope to receive answers yes yes thank you thank you for being on the show today sir so i met you around a year ago yes and i was very very broken at that point in my life i don't know something had fundamentally broken inside me there was self-doubt of another degree sadness of another degree anger of another degree and uh i don't know how but manjari auntie who is a friend of my mom actually reached out and said that i bought your stuff and there is someone i wish for you to meet and she called me to um the ashram yes this is okay you know this is yeah it's a it's a beautiful place and uh she made me meet you and i just i that's what i did like i just i put my questions out in front of you and you almost gave me some sort of spiritual therapy yes he told me some very basic things which will get to anything over the course of this episode um i'd probably like to start off this conversation by asking you


probably like to start off this conversation by asking you about your story and even i would like to know who are you like in terms of a lot some people might look at you as some sort of a spiritual master some people look at you with some certain terms for me i feel you're a very solid mentor to a lot of people you're sort of a modern day coach yes so uh how would you talk about your own story yeah yeah see starting with this who are you [Music] so i see myself as a friend a true friend or a divine friend i mean even in college i used to be a person who should look down upon meditation and yoga where had someone would come and done a workshop of meditation in college and i i was like that kid who laughed at it exactly now i'm talking so much about meditation and spiritualism because i've seen what it's done for my mind exactly i've seen the science behind it as well you know just the process of meditation process of


well you know just the process of meditation process of faith does certain things to the structure of your brain exactly yeah it becomes your experience then you follow it just not because of a book or someone told you you enjoyed it you liked it now let me do it that's how it is and people are going to you know move towards the same direction spiritual direction not becoming baba maharaja or guru becoming you real you that's what the spirituality is about and according to me everyone is spiritually even if you don't believe in god that is also being spiritual that's all right what do you mean it's about you it was never ever about god as such you know either you discover yourself that self-discovery or you discover god and both are same there is no difference yourself is god and god is yourself that is the same thing you know gautam buddha lord buddha he start he was discovering his self he wasn't discovering god he wanted to know who am i truly because


god he wanted to know who am i truly because of suffering you spoke about actually going through an experience yourself you said that you know skeptics should experience things exactly do you mean meditation like what do you mean not necessary so see don't try to know attach this experience with any specific tool or technique okay that's again wrong approach towards it this world is open open your mind the moment you tie this experience of yours with meditation then there are various other ways that you might have these experiences and you're blocking it for no reason so when you open see meditation something working for you then go deep into it explore it but that's not the only thing so whoever experienced it no lord buddha it was not because of meditation it is not because of what practices he did not because of rituals or heavens or even bhakti whatever that you talk about it's not because of that it's like you know when i came to your studio you know so i was standing outside and


your studio you know so i was standing outside and and i'm knocking on the door all the time i'm just i keep knocking all the morning evening i want to come inside what's the possibility what should happen for me to get into your studio what should happen i have to open the door open the door people don't see that people think that just keep knocking the door keep knocking the door keep knocking the door but they forget there is someone beyond this door who is going to open it and he will open by his own will you can't compel him so that's what who is going to open the door divine god it's the same way for babaji and kriya yoga people see babaji through kriya yoga i see babaji and then through babaji i see kriya yoga there is a difference someone who created it he has to open the door so people don't focus on that that's where it gets confused so there is no hard and fast rule in you know in a spiritual


hard and fast rule in you know in a spiritual plane it is there for sannyasis they need to get up early in the morning they need to follow certain you know procedures it is required for them but someone in practical life they don't need to do it if i compare even your spiritual state with someone who's sitting there in himalayas sitting in the cave i'm not saying that he is higher and you are lower in spiritual's plane everyone is equal and same there is no one higher and lower i don't see that i see everyone has one spiritually also connected just your experience is different my experience is different but there is no way that you are lower or higher i am higher we are same all of us um so the first question is is guru and master the same thing when you're referring to master and the second question obviously we have to talk about mahafta babaji because he's a part of vices as well the book has so much written about babaji and generally i think