like because you can't download the tor browser off of internet explorer no you can absolutely down you can of course and it's illegal to download the tor browser yeah and that's what so it might be a new regulation that i'm not familiar with so i've uh you know that's one thing that i did not hear that you cannot download the tor browser and by the way you don't just download the top browser for wrong reasons it's actually a great tool to go ahead and hide your identity why do you want google to know every time what you're searching why do you want you know facebook to know every time where you're logging from so it's actually a good tool for making sure you're anonymous and people are not tracking you so it's not like tor is only bad users as i told you in the beginning technology for me of any kind is an amplifier if you want good you can amplify good what you're doing if you want bad unfortunately a lot of people amplify bad and that becomes


a lot of people amplify bad and that becomes a problem ranveer you want to talk anything else about the dark web that's interesting for the audience to know well remember the hacker is a service example that i give yeah that actually happens on the dark web you have a lot of these forums you have dark web has its own wikipedia dark web has its own it's like a parallel world to be a part of these forums it's very interesting no matter what amount of money you pay if you want to be a part of a dark web forum you know what's a process you can't pay any money to get in the only way you can get into the dark web forum is if you can get and the different types of forum with different roles but some popular ones is what i'm talking about you have to get at least x number of people existing in the forum to vouch for you that you're an authentic hacker there are barters so i've seen people talk about hey you know what i have access


people talk about hey you know what i have access to these 25 servers of this big e-commerce companies do you want to trade that for 25 servers of a big bank wow so so if you think about that and and it's all trust based so it's like people build their identities over time they will use a pseudo name right you know yellow nikki flying 23 so many of these funny names that the aliases that people will come out with and over time they build a reputation they build a credibility in the dark web forums or what and how you know people have and there are dedicated forums on hey you want to hack into a particular country you want to hack into a particular type of industry you want to hack into instagram you know there are full-fledged discussions which would go on there whose only job is to go ahead and you know try to collaborate for hacking with each episode of this podcast i do have to deep dive into other people's heads and worlds and from what i can tell about


heads and worlds and from what i can tell about your world is that you're in the middle of a lot of volcanic eruptions everywhere you know the world of cyber security it seems like this this going down all the time and as one of the ethical people in this world your job is to constantly like protect the weaker people you're sort of like think of it like a spiderman who's going and just like rescuing a lot and then you know i like batman sure like you know you're helping gotham city where is going down all the time and then even after you've done some good you go away helping someone else and some bad happens in the first place that you helped anyway so cyber security seems like this continuous process of building armor man am i right in saying this that it's it seems like a super chaotic world dude you're absolutely right and this is where being in cyber security is so exciting also you can never go ahead and extinguish all the


you can never go ahead and extinguish all the fire it just won't happen and that's where you pick and choose the most important ones the biggest ones which are out there and then try to make sure that that falls in place that becomes tamed so twitter version i'm sure that the next time we have you on the show there's going to be even deeper questions um first question is from let's tweet to you all wisdom which commercial android phone is secure apart from the iphone how strong is the samsung knox security i think they just mean that what's a secure phone out there short answer none okay that's where you need to start with every phone has its own vulnerabilities that keeps coming out all the time you want to use it with awareness historically the number of vulnerabilities that have been reported in ios are much lower than android but you want to keep this in mind the users of ios are also much slower than android and a lot of secret stuff for zero days for ios doesn't come out


secret stuff for zero days for ios doesn't come out in the public and therefore it's not like ios is far more secure than android what has to be secured is your way of using the phone so your awareness becomes far more important than what the latest ios or android phone is crazy what about the second question how strong is samsung knox security samsung knox is actually pretty good you know what is it samsung knox is basically a container within your samsung phone where you can store your credit cards when you can store various kinds of notes etc this is not branded guys this is just a conversation yeah this is just yeah samsung's not paying you money i wish they were though same thing are you listening but here's the point it is actually pretty good why because it's almost like this you have a big house and then you have one room which is very very very clean and everything's encrypted and everything has two-factor authentication etc etc so that's what samsung knox is all about i highly recommend that


samsung knox is all about i highly recommend that it's definitely a better way of storing data and information a lot of scared people listening into this podcast so don't be surprised if sam i'm not doing fear mongering trust me yeah i've just spoken all the time that's my job dude i'm the one who spreads feel get the clicks spread didn't say that on the record okay asks which country is the hacking superpower usa china russia or india out of all of them i would say there's a tough competition between russia and china given what we've known it would i would say russia would take the crown but keep this in mind because it's so easy to spoof ip addresses if i'm hacking sitting out of egypt i can go to russia's servers and then hack into india and india will think russia is hacking me and therefore it's so difficult to really point out where the hack actually originated from so there can never be a particular answer in fact in


there can never be a particular answer in fact in my view the best hacker or the best hacking country is the one that you would have never heard about in terms of talent in terms of their name ever surfacing that they even do happen oh okay okay okay but it's like it's like sherlock holmes lines right the best place to hide something is in plain sight um but in terms of being a cyber security professional where you see most of the talent arise from when you talk about talent definitely from an education perspective i would say the u.s and india would be far more when you talk about professionals which are outside the government but when you talk about government employed hackers china would arguably be one of the largest on the planet as a cyber army and there are smaller countries like israel is a great example where their prime minister openly says the way you have the army the navy and the air force they have a fourth division which is only cyber and they do


fourth division which is only cyber and they do offensive cyber and he's very public about it there's nothing to hide there so that's just you know where uh where the countries are looking at saurav dhangi asks a very simple unrelated question but i think it's an important question because you're living in silicon valley pretty much right now and you know in the middle of the tech world do you believe that getting paid for an hour would be the upcoming work culture all over the world getting paid per hour probably as a freelancer i actually think that the world will move towards an outcome based payments and not based on time get us the results yes oh interesting question adiraj nayak asks if a person is not from an engineering or tech background but is seriously interested in cyber risks ethical hacking etc can such a person make a successful career out of these domains and if yes then what are the skills needed for the same short answer absolutely a yes today because of the online education that you have you


today because of the online education that you have you don't need to have background in the past but do you not need to deep dive into it now to get into cyber security no that doesn't work so you can start now go to coursera go to udemy go to khan academy or all of these courses where you can actually learn how to program start with fundamentals you have to learn how to code you have to learn how internet works how databases work how compilers works start from there and then you keep building on top of it in cyber security one of the certifications that i make the entire team of mine take is something called oscp offensive security certified professional you know what what the fun part about that certification how the exam happens there are no questions they give you five ip addresses you have to hack it and give them the result of a file which is stored in that server somewhere it's as hands-on as you can get just five ips and you do whatever you want it's called


five ips and you do whatever you want it's called oscp it's run by an american body called offensive security and it's a pretty popular course in the hacking community and it's uh pretty hands-on so but that you will only be able to do when you really understand the fundamentals of how cyber works because hacking in security is only step two and it's really not different from the first principles of computer science so learn how to code and then go deeper if you don't know how to code you can always start there's no there's no problems at all it generally takes like three months to become a decent level coder in six months where you can champion it and you have to do 18 hours a day i mean if you love doing it why not just do it you're the first person to put a timeline on this statement we've had a lot of people on the show say that like oh learn coding the first guy who said oh it'll take you three months to six months yeah but you have


you three months to six months yeah but you have to give yourself in really that's the whole point because i see a lot of people treat that as a hobby i'll do it one hour a week it's not gonna work out it's like going to the gym right you have to be consistent and you have to invest does coding change the way your mind works yes it does because if you think about coding it is how the mind works if you think about it what is intelligence you are looking at me and your mind is telling you if this face is in front of you call him saket that's a code in your mind so when you talk about a code it is exactly how a mind works because what do you code you say if a equals b then print c that's coding it's really that simple it's if and else so that's that's my view about you know you actually get more closer to your own self when you actually understand how the world of course that's where artificial intelligence also comes


world of course that's where artificial intelligence also comes in again for a different day for you about it yeah yeah the next time you're in bombay yeah okay ayush bajaj with some questions for you will we see data privacy departments in all organizations in the future yes not only departments but you'll actually have data privacy officers the new data protection act which is right now in the parliament which is expected to be passed in the next six months is something that that mandates all publicly listed companies to have a dedicated data protection officer appointed in every organization so absolutely what are the new potential risks to someone whose behavior can be tracked through data i think that was this entire episode pretty much watch the episode okay um do you think that frauds have decreased now because everything has an identity and he's linked it to the aadhaar card situation slightly yeah slightly and this is brutal honesty i'll slightly diverge and then come back we work with payment processors around the world if i take the last


payment processors around the world if i take the last five years data the number of credit card frauds which have happened in the united states versus india the ratio is one is to 25 india is one and the united states is 25. india was one of the first countries to go ahead and implement mandatory two-factor authentication which even today is not mandated in united states and western america or western europe the reason i'm giving you that example is that we are off the charts when it comes to frauds when i say of course there's a lot of fraud which happens but the amount of fraud and the number of rods are much lower and the number of transactions which used to be much lower five years back are now catching up because thanks to upi we're actually doing more digital transactions than even the united states today just just to give an everyday example when i was traveling in the states about two three years back when we were paying for our meal through one of their food apps you


for our meal through one of their food apps you didn't have to go through the whole enter your cvv enter your otp it was just a touch of a button and it gets paid and that's actually dangerous exactly because if i just have your card which i can easily siphon i don't need to put my hand in your pocket i can actually have these readers because you have this nfc and your card and your mobile phones enabled with that so i can actually get an nfc reader and i can clone your card without you knowing about it it's a reasonably easy thing to do and that's the reason you have these cases these days which are actually electrocuted from the point of you know it creates this vacuum chamber where somebody's trying to copy your card they're not able to copy so there are such cases which exists these days but coming back to what you were saying it's so easy to replicate your card and once you replicate people can just do fraud and you can't do like there's


just do fraud and you can't do like there's hardly anything that you can do about it so it's a pretty bad situation it's a worse situation than what it is in india because india everything is two-factor authentication which is pretty phenomenal and now with upi i would say we are at least five years ahead of what was there uh you know for for western europe and north america even today what is there right now crazy mr saket bruce wayne modi that's pretty sweet i'm a fan of that guy a big anime fan ranveer so yes the first time i met you i remember it was in this garden outside the outside of shady hall in banaras and you just said what's up you started a conversation what i read about it was that this dude seems like he knows a lot of stuff that i don't know and for some reason he seems like he knows a lot of stuff about everyone here you shall never know about it that's the energy you gave dude today


about it that's the energy you gave dude today i understand why so a pat on the back for my intuition and a pat on the back for my team for getting you to do this podcast you've been very kind but there's a reason why i wore yellow because i knew you were wearing black now to spook you out just just saying no dude so many more episodes to create with you yeah you'll have fun it's really an honor to be here i think you're doing such a phenomenal job i wish there were more runways out there because i think the nation needs to get content of the kind that you're producing so it's a brilliant job there and it's such an honor to be with you oh man and i think the whole world needs more people like you who are doing that batman kind of in the gotham city of the cyber space like all of us holy you live in a volcanic world that's what i'll tell you and uh waiting to see and


what i'll tell you and uh waiting to see and hear more about all the volcanoes that you've encountered until the next time so thank you mr saket modi oh sounds like i'm in trouble that's what my parents would call mr sake or my investors would call me but anyways thank you so much for being with me here and uh you know calling me here it's such a pleasure and honor to be with you appreciate it thank you so that was the episode with saketh towards the end if you've heard it till this point you know that it became kind of scary we're living in some scary times and as we spoke over the course of the podcast the cyber world is like gotham and people like saket modi are a part of the justice league or the avengers of this city of gotham of this world full of dangers saket modi is going to be back on the ranvi show i'd love to know from you guys what you all are thinking about


know from you guys what you all are thinking about the new flavor in the content that we're putting out lately our new youtube channel where we upload all the highlights of the podcast you will see that we've kind of shifted away from just self-improvement into information into current affairs into extremely relevant topics just like this i want feedback from you guys so please let me know what you think remember to subscribe to trs clips put the bell icon there as well and also remember to follow us on spotify every episode's available on spotify 48 hours before it's available anywhere else in the world even before it's available on trs clips but either way guys thank you for supporting the randby show this is a new beginning for us and i hope that you guys keep supporting us along the way namaste thank you [Music] i you


harsh varma he's the first indian in centuries who's been accepted to become a shaolin warrior monk at the actual shaolin temple in china we've already covered his story on the hindi podcast that's why in this particular episode we're gonna be covering a story in brief and i urge you to check out those two episodes before you check out this one but say if you have checked out that episode or if you're someone who enjoys free-flowing conversation about martial arts about inspiration about the mystical side of meditation and of course oriental culture this is one of the most enjoyable free-flowing conversations that we've created on the runway show this is a conversation i enjoyed the most i was enjoying this particular conversation so much that there's actually a part in this episode where i started laughing just out of enjoyment i don't know what that feeling was i wasn't laughing at harsh at all i wasn't laughing at any thing that i was finding funny i


at any thing that i was finding funny i was just genuinely so happy to have this conversation and i hope that you gain the same happiness and inspiration from this conversation in the same way that i did remember to follow the run visual spotify with spotify exclusive now which means that every episode is available on spotify 48 hours before it's available anywhere else in the world this is one of the most legendary people that we've had on the show sharing his unadulterated vibe of being a shaolin warrior monk [Music] warrior monk welcome back to the ranvi show brother thank you so much thank you for having me here and we just finished a very intense hindi chat for a hindi podcast where you gave us the download of your whole journey so you were training to be a footballer when you were a teenager you were going to go professional you had a knee surgery the doctors while operating you discovered a neat tumor that kind of put you off the track when it came to


of put you off the track when it came to professional football you're sitting in bombay a mentor to your friend to you says you know for your recovery why don't you look into the world of shaolin the world of martial arts and you land up at the shaolin temple yes so how do you feel now after you become a warrior monk and not everyone gets to be a warrior monk in the first place why don't you explain to the viewers who are seeing you for the first time who've probably not seen the hindi episode firstly thank you for having me young and thank you for everyone who's going to be taking out time to watch this my journey so far uh has been completely um a disciplined journey what got me to shaolin temple like i like we discussed was earning um deformity in my and because of my bone got me to china thinking of the traditional chinese medicine then you know me reaching out to them they told me that ukin can come journey has


they told me that ukin can come journey has definitely been i wouldn't use the term overwhelming it was nothing overwhelming it was completely um i went with a perspective of learning something new you know we say um learn to unlearn so i went with an empty cup and i filled it drop by drop and then how old are you i was 22 and a half yeah wow and you're around 29 today um yeah wow so from 2014 to about 2018 you were in the shaolin temple you were getting trained by the monks you were learning uh the different aspects of shaolin i think that's a great place to begin this particular conversation because um i feel what you've done in four years is sort of an alternative post-grad degree for life like in the hindi conversation we spoke so much about warrior mentality and warrior mentality is not about fighting mario mentality is about being and living and thinking in a certain way correct so uh what was that introduction like for you how did you get into


that introduction like for you how did you get into that process of learning uh i come from a very disciplined background since i've been an athlete since a young age so football has been my whole and soul my life my first love playing football soccer played the national level playing international level then not being able to do physical training really like got to me which led me to do a lot of research about what can i do for my rehab that's where the traditional chinese medicine came in the picture then shaolin temple you know my r d narrowed down to china what i personally feel when i reached there like i said i i went with the aspect of just completely healing i never went with the aspect to um that i want to be a monk i never had that mindset when i started healing i started realizing that this place has more than what it can offer to me apart from just healing and that's where i chose to commit to commit to it in a depthful way my first


to commit to it in a depthful way my first stance was if i want to live here long term i need to learn the language because nobody speaks english out there so i speak fluent mandarin i became a translator after my in the 10th or 11th month i started translating for a lot of foreign students who come in um then one and a half year got over um my savings got over in fact i was saving money for tomorrowland and i used it and i really wanted to go to tomorrowland because everybody's like you know been hyping about it talking about it so i was in that that zone then uh but i'm glad that you know my uh investment happened in myself for my healing uh for nurturing um you know my studies you know we invest in we invest in our education so for me this was investing in my healing investing in my studies of you know the children lifestyle and culture and i thought that this is the best place where i can really


that this is the best place where i can really completely surrender myself that one and a half how much do i have to you know uh invest into it i think people often fail to understand from an athlete's point of view how decapitating injury feels like like i remember i used to do competitive power lifting had a tennis elbow injury i almost felt emasculated you know like you feel sort of castrated in a way i can't imagine as a footballer your knee is like bombed correctly where that will put you in terms of mindset you're sitting at home you you do kind of feel a loss of almost manhood like you know in the moment like that it was very traumatic uh the surgery post surgery was very traumatic and uh it took my confidence like completely to the zero level and i had no hopes of like my leg become i knew my leg would become better someday or the other but it wasn't happening in the moment and i was not feeling


happening in the moment and i was not feeling it and you need to feel it that you're putting in energy time and effort and you know like in in healing something or in doing some works for to get progress because repetition means progress that was not happening so that's when i started i went to china shaolin temple that's when i realized that you know they were healing me i was like this place has something more to offer me just you know physical training and hanging healing i need to do more i need to surrender myself in such a way that it can adopt me it can hug me in a way that it will absorb me and make it make me its own um and that's what i did for one and a half year i had no plans of staying more than one and a half year my parents you know visited me for a brief time in the initial phase of my life my mom was like always you know very very upset that oh why are you doing this


very very upset that oh why are you doing this yourself you know we have like a you know you can live a decent lifestyle you can go and study your mba um but all those things never really mattered to me at that point of time because i was just so focused in the now in the moment and that's what zen buddhist philosophy teaches you it's not a religion it's a lifestyle that you focused on that one thing that you do and that's what zen is it's a very simple term there's no need to write elaborated books i'm i'm being very honest i'm myself writing a book but i'm writing a book how spirituality is involved in martial arts martial arts is a very greater sense it's not just the who ha and the kick and punch no it's much more than that it's greater than that it's discipline it's a culture it's a lifestyle it's a choice that you make to commit in a way that you are serious about this yes as a


way that you are serious about this yes as a hobby you can take it but you need to be disciplined and you need to be disciplined to do anything in life when you have a discipline you have your team your team is disciplined follows you know certain protocols certain structure the same way i think with martial arts that's what comes you know discipline is the most utmost thing yeah i think a lot of people uh are not aware that the shaolin temples origins actually lie in india so yeah why don't you kind of brief the audience very quickly about the history and origins of the shaolin temple and did you know all these things when you had gone to the shaolin temple i actually didn't know anything about shaolin temple when i went except i watched 36 chamber of shaolin and shaolin with the shaolin 2011 movie that came with jackie chan i had watched that too also why don't you brief people on the relationship that both bruce lee and jackie chan have with


that both bruce lee and jackie chan have with the shaolin temple oh definitely uh first i'll come with the history of so it comes from india it comes from south of india an indian eminent monk named bodhi dharma traveled from south of india to china to give this culture the shaolin culture which is zen with this philosophy the kung fu and the traditional medicine which all comes from the indian holistic practice and living called ayurveda the indian ancient martial art called kareli payatu and the zen buddhism buddha is from india so buddhism was definitely out here and bodhidharma's master maha kasipa was the 20th direct disciple in the lineage of gotham buddha so he was in his disciple hood so i understand where bodhidharma got nurtured and what master gave his master gave him the message and why he went there and over there in china right now my among brothers all the people in the buddhist community the chinese buddhist


people in the buddhist community the chinese buddhist community shaolin community they worship and they pray to bodhi dharma he is the father of shaolin culture they pray to buddha gotham buddha siddhartha gautam we call him sakimuni you know we say so a lot of respect is given to these two masters who started this and they are indians and it's it's sad to see that in india it's faded and that's where i come in the picture you know shaolin temple has a branch in every country india is with me on the cultural aspect we have one school already in in delhi we spoke about but on a whole and soul front where i'm carrying the zen with this philosophy the traditional medicine the kung fu the zen archery everything that shaolin corefully offers is being offered in my school because it's a direct affiliation and a different director school of the shaolin temple called shaolin temple warrior among academy brothers so one thing i found very fascinating


brothers so one thing i found very fascinating about your studies from the first chat that we did was the different aspects that you all put through say the different subjects in that four-year course that you went through yes so can you take us through the subjects and maybe even the breakdown of those subjects because that's just it was eye-opening for me you know most amateurs and most people who don't know much about the shaolin temple will assume that it's probably just the place you learn martial arts at and uh you know maybe you learn a little bit of lifestyle but there's so much more there's medicine there's healing there is lifestyle obviously and then there's martial arts correct um our routine was pretty strict before i became a warrior monk um our routine was anyways strict as a foreign student anybody can go there's a foreign student there's a certain fee that you pay and you get to pay monthly i know you can get a package many people go people can afford people cannot afford but uh


go people can afford people cannot afford but uh for foreign students definitely that wasn't as strict as how warrior monks have to be because they are they have to abide in adhere to the principles and the and the wows and the oaths that they take right because it's most serious because that's so that's their home that's their base that's where they function from that's you know where they work from for foreign students it's a temporary um like a camp like okay two months ago one month camp three months six months one year you know commitment study like for me it's like i did my mba for i was there for four years and eight months precisely so for me the takeaway uh out of the structural lifestyle that we had the routine lifestyle that we had the discipline lifestyle uh we had zen with this philosophy classes which was in mandarin first let me just tell you that everything that i studied was in mandarin i speak fluent mandarin after one and a half year i


fluent mandarin after one and a half year i got adopted as a warrior among i was um my savings got over the one which i was going to put in tomorrowland which i put in my training and my healing in the temple and um i got adopted by them they saw me as an asset that you know i can help the temple for translation i can travel for shows my kung fu was a little better and i was always training more you know they used to say that i'm training more than the monks my senior monk brothers and i was like always always an honor for me to feel that you know like i'm training like them i'm training at least close to them that many hours but obviously they are on a very higher level but i still strive because i had no martial art background as such athletic background yes always good stamina good speed agility great but you know the the foundation of martial arts if your foundation is not strong in any art you know you don't


is not strong in any art you know you don't you don't you can't progress ahead what is the foundation of martial arts um firstly everything starts with your breath we spoke about this previously as well so your breath needs to be right so in my first meditation class um i got hit by my master because i was not breathing right and that was the biggest lesson that happened to me that you need to learn how to breathe right because kung fu the mush the shaolin culture just involves the breathing aspect of it whether it's hard kung fu whether it's soft kung fu there at 72 times 36 heart 36 soft so 36 heart has hard kind of breathing you know like how you have to hold how you have to attack and heart soft one has very slow soft movements and then suddenly there's an explosivity that comes out so everything is a cultivation and nurturing of your breath so how much are you practicing by combining your body your movements with your breath is


combining your body your movements with your breath is what kung fu is and that's how you actually break you know bricks yes that's how much that's that's called hard qigong that we break things whether it's it's actually a stone not a brick so we break stones we break metal flat rods on our head we break like sticks on our back and our legs and everything so yeah there's a lot of things that happen here and you're saying that all these things that people see on the outside actually basically they boil down to your breathing they boil down your breathing patterns exactly because your pran you know your breath uh your chi is right behind where your navel is just right under that is where the storage of your cheese in chinese we call it dantian is it related to chakras uh it's that's a different study but they are uh very parallel okay they're very parallel but it's a different study this is completely breath work through cultivation of breath we can uh cure


work through cultivation of breath we can uh cure and heal and unblock a lot of our chakras yeah i think this is what a lot of people fail to understand that uh your breath is actually your body's link to your soul and your soul contains nice way to put it yeah your soul contains unlimited power and when you're able to harness the power of breath breathing techniques not only does it give you power like in your case where you'll use chi to actually become stronger or do stronger acts in the world but it also makes you mentally stronger it also makes you stronger for life but you really need to experience pranayama and breath work in the long term to see changes within you that's right see how calm you become see how centered you come see where your focus uh levels go to okay but uh was that was that your early uh kind of learning that okay i'm learning how to control my breath now and i'm seeing my knee heal i'm seeing


and i'm seeing my knee heal i'm seeing changes in my mind correct so um definitely initially in the in the beginning i didn't know how to do healing so the master in the first meditation class told us that just learn how to breathe normally as possible and focus on your on your on your part where you need to heal and supply fresh oxygen to it and that's the first process of healing what is the can you teach a basic breathing technique here um yeah sure definitely so what we do is uh we sit in our lotus position a half lotus full lotus your left palm on top of your right palm it's called um it's called the zazen posture where your left thumb is touching your right thumb you put it right under your navel that's where you're done is so when you're breathing you're expanding you're breathing and you're expanding your stomach and when you're exhaling you're contracting you're pulling in your stomach that's the way you


pulling in your stomach that's the way you normally breathe your tongue should be rolled up on your top palate your teeth upper jaw like the whole jaw to be together and inhale exhale is from your nose the most basic way of breathing is just to inhale from your nose and exhale the relaxation the first step is relaxation to being aware of your breath work this is the first step then there are different types of breathing there's fast-paced breathing there is soft base breathing there's breath work with body movements that's completely a holistic training we call qigong activity where there is different kinds there's a soft one that is the cotton fist which is there which is that the soft foot soft fist which is there so there are different techniques which are there but the first one you should just know of being aware of your breath how relaxed it can be and those different types of breathing or do they give you different benefits is it for a definitely


give you different benefits is it for a definitely definitely those different types of variance techniques are started by bodhidharma uh it comes from two practices in chinese we call it the yi jinjing and she's waging e changing is the muscle tendon classic change method and the shea switching is the bone marrow cleansing method wow yes so there are different these two have immense amount of effects on your on your body um eliminating diseases increasing the lung capacity supplying fresh oxygen to your body improving visceral functions of your body so there are a lot of things that we do even in uh china when there's school broke down uh all our shaolin masters all our shifus and our senior brothers and brothers they were teaching qigong to a lot of doctors and patients online so even like you know i helped a lot of people whoever were interested in learning qigong online so have you made videos about this or like i still haven't because i've just started my school and


still haven't because i've just started my school and i'm still trying to you know push things out there and i would love for people to experience it while coming there rather than just digitally accepting i know a lot of people cannot access you know have access to come to the school but i'm planning to make uh like um well we like like a podcast series or feel like video series where you know like a lot of breadth work is there like a master class series basically wow yeah i'm planning to shoot that people need to rediscover ancient wisdom that's how i look at it like i just also want to brief the listeners of the english episode that you spoke about your journey with your knee in the old episode how you tried different kinds of physiotherapy you tried different kinds of uh recovery based uh techniques and finally it was all this it was the breath work and the martial arts had actually healed your knee completely correct so um you know i want to ask you i


so um you know i want to ask you i mean have you seen batman begins yeah did you ever have those kind of moments while you were training uh where you realized okay now i'm becoming some kind of a machine because that's effectively what you have become with all your knowledge of martial arts your knowledge of your own mind your knowledge of philosophy you're not the boy you were when you went and there must have been that one moment where you actually killed off the boy inside you and became a man do you remember any one moment like that or was it overtime uh i definitely remember the film batman um i never related myself to any of those um you know scenes that i've seen or anything but one thing i thoroughly remember or watching a lot of bruce lee films and kung fu films that i've seen before you know just for fun never thought of it look i want to do this is going to be so cool uh i've definitely looked up to bruce lee who


i've definitely looked up to bruce lee who hasn't jackie chan jetly and i aspire to be like the the indian you know action person actor figure whatever i don't know whatever is you know out there for me you know have it i have my school or whatever action person you know just needs to be uh of you know of a country of you know globally wherever i am going to be mainly in india only i did get here flashes of the time when 36 chamber of shaolin process was going on and also when jackie chan had done a couple of films you know with his master drunken master he's done you know how he was not serious and then how he got serious how he had things available in his you know comfort zone and then you know how things are suddenly out of his comfort zone and then the only option and the only way is to just strive and just work hard you know i didn't i could relate to certain things uh but yeah discipline came very easy


certain things uh but yeah discipline came very easy to me i think the only toughest part that happened to me was the language uh but i knew that if this is something that i want in the long term i need to do it so there was no procrastinating there was no worreness there was no frustration at all i just went with the flow and you know just like buddha says that uh don't dwell in the past don't think about the future be in the present and i literally just did that i was completely in the present moment and i just worked the uh day by day step by step i worked hard and i just focused on the things that i really wanted to do you know i was challenged by that i will not get a split and then i got a split you know i got my splits done and everything so things you know like just happen in a way where um that that place the temple is filled with so much of knowledge and wisdom everywhere through books


so much of knowledge and wisdom everywhere through books no just in general in presence so much of presence like i said you know knowing mandarin is like a big asset big bonus you know for you otherwise translators don't do that agree that of a great job uh but living there you know got made me learn the local dialect which is out there uh made me understand certain terms which are not there in the books you know they're not it's not there in the theaters or the dictionary so certain things were self the language was self-taught but certain other things regarding the lifestyle aspect when i completely surrendered myself when they accepted me that's where i learned the maximum as well um you know they say information is present all around us and it's there for you to catch wisdom is there for you to catch which is why you know we had a theoretical physicist on the show recently who studies like the stars who studies black holes and he said that in theoretical physics it's a


and he said that in theoretical physics it's a lot about creativity and a lot of your ideas for the possible theorems that you want to prove actually come in your dreams or it happens to you when you're in a very relaxed place maybe you're having a shower and you'll realize something that's another example of you putting your consciousness on one subject and then the universe saying okay you want to put your consciousness here here take this piece of information so maybe that's what you felt as well in the time i completely did i i so agree with you yeah that exactly happened i put my consciousness consciousness and i think the fruit of it was just uh progress the fruit of it was um you know you get paid for what you work for you know not not monetary wise but wisdom wisdom wise and knowledge is knowing but wisdom is applying so i got the knowledge and i applied it so that's where i i progressed you know so there wasn't one particular day that


you know so there wasn't one particular day that you changed there wasn't one incident but you took one day at a time and over time you just became a new person by incremental upward steps day by day purely day by day there was there was nothing um the transition was definitely noticed by me my my family whenever they you know when i when they visited me once when i went back to renew my visa um and then i think the main thing as a shaolin monk what i really got to learn you know as an as a foreigner as a non-chinese person listening was a great thing to know but to adapt to adapt to people adapt to situations adapt to um not having any kind of inhibitions against any culture or being open to learning these things and i think that's where i like i said i surrendered to the culture i became one of them they accepted me because i chose to study the language i chose to study everything that's there in the temple in that language


everything that's there in the temple in that language and that's what they found i think you know admirable or commendable and that's where they adopted me and made me a worry among so and there's a short documentary that's made i shared with you the link so i indian in the shaolin temple so they saw you practicing they saw you healing they saw you being enthusiastic about the subjects and they said okay you should become a warrior monk that's true now it's not everyone's cup of tea to become a warrior monk but what was a day in your life like like did you have to wake up early what was the training like what happened so we on um on a normal day and summer we were training about 10 to 12 hours a day in winters we didn't train more than six to eight hours a day uh i think sorry this is physical training everything everything together the routine training okay the physical training included um so we used to wake up at four we


um so we used to wake up at four we were in bed by 9 30. uh we had a prayers in the morning then after prayers used to run the mountain after running the mountain then you know we had a breakfast and after breakfast cleaning the mess after cleaning the the food place you know the place that we eat our dining hall uh after that you know we used to come back to the dorm get ready for the first round of training the second round of training was first round is the mountain mountain range mountain you still climbed up a mountain and we used to run the mountain yeah yeah there's a huge peak where bodhi dharma meditated for nine years because he was not accepted by the temple first there were already monks living there in fact the temple was built for the first indian monk called buddha for him to translate buddhist scriptures that's why the king in that time of the dynasty he made the temple for this indian scholar called buddha


the temple for this indian scholar called buddha bhadra that's where the shaolin temple was built then after that came buddhism from south of india and when he reached the temple he was not accepted by you know the monks the chinese monks and even the indian master and then he passed away when he went behind the mountain and he meditated for nine years that's called the dharma dharma mountain the dharma cave he meditated in a cave so we used to run that mountain have you have you gone to the cave as well yeah yeah we've gone to the cave there's a small small idol of bodhidharma on a stone where you know we pray to him offer him our incense stick and our blessings and prayers what's the energy you feel in that cave it's it's it's not describable it's it's just there are no words to describe that place it's something which you just have to feel it you have to experience it when you go there and


you have to experience it when you go there and the hindi chat you spoke about feeling a strong sense of warrior energy but what you also said is people think that warrior is all about attacking but in fact warrior is actually slightly being detached and having the power inside you but staying calm while sitting next to that power that's true warrior mentality i think everybody has a warrior side in them everybody has buddha inside of them it's just about cultivation um it's like you know you put your mind to something and then you know your body will follow so it's that kind of mentality you just have to have like a laser like focus like i spoke about master bruce lee's double a theory you know alert an act of being a little active about things just what you want in life your goals whether it's the most smallest thing that you need to complete or chore or an errand that you need to run or complete in a day or the week or the month you know you


day or the week or the month you know you as an entrepreneur has you know you have goals you have targets you know you you delegate you do it yourself as well so the same way warrior mentality comes to people who know what they want who are so focused and so aligned um in how they are going to get it they're not going to dwelve on the process because they already know the result that yeah they are going to get it no matter what but they work hard for that process in that process and that's where they they that's how successful people are it's a very it's a very basic thing i don't know why there is so much of rocket science to this man but it's a very basic thing i mean as a monk probably i got this wisdom knowledge i'm sure people not living in the temple might have also got this knowledge it's not necessary you have to be a monk to know all these things for me like i was enlightened to become a monk warrior monk and


to become a monk warrior monk and um i personally feel like you know your your senses matter the most your five senses and that's where your cleanses uh your senses get cleansed and you become more alert and active about your environment your surroundings um and your breath work everything is just so correlated you know and then um yeah i was in the temple for like four years and eight months so i think whatever you described right now the warrior mentality is what you feel in the cave because you broke down that energy different aspects of it but you can you go the rest of your day also after you all came back down yeah so we had our we had after breakfast we we were cleaning the our dining hall we came back to our dormitories we got ready for a training after training for three hours the first the second hour no training is for three hours uh 11 30 11 45 is done is lunch time so what is what is the training we do our basic like


is what is the training we do our basic like running cardio that we do uh run around the temple run near the mountain and then do a lot of flexibility power flex liberty splits yoga yeah everything comes you know like ayurveda yoga everything just comes from that teachings what bodhi dharma has studied and it's just different terms right now so yeah power flexibility came basic kicks came fist forms are there weapon forms are there animal style is there uh breath work and slow and qigong is the hard and soft qigong is there so these are the basic things that is taught in training gymnastics and acrobatics are that that happens in the second session after lunch that we do a lot of like hard conditioning strengthening flexibility not flexibility sorry uh con flexibility is usually done in the mornings because that's the best time to do your own flexibility conditioning strengthening uh weapon training and animal style and um yeah these things are usually done in the afternoon and every warrior


are usually done in the afternoon and every warrior monk has to master one fist bomb one weapon form and one animal style and according to do based on your personality you get those like they give it to you the master gives it what was yours mine is eagle eagle claw eagle fist this is the eagle fist uh my fist form was there there are many kinds of fists from the more than like about 50 to 60 fest forms in traditional shaolin kung fu wushu is a national sport of china so we did all the basics of wushu as well all the advanced things of wushu as well you know as level got better my my weapon was my first main weapon was the broadsword we we all start with the basic weapon which is a stick you know once you learn the stick your wrist opens up uh i do right now i do 18 to 20 different weapons weapons is my forte what are the different weapons uh there are spear there is a stick there is a double


are spear there is a stick there is a double sword double broad sword single hand long sword single hand single hand straight sword there is a tiger hook uh there is a maze there is a hammer there are there are so many man i have carried back like about 50 to 60 kgs worth of weapons back for my school how was that how did you how were you able to carry it back i had a letter from the temple that i'm a warrior monk and these are performance based and for training based wow um you know one more cool thing that you highlighted in the last conversation was that all your meals there were pure vegetarian yes which is crazy to think uh i also would like to know what you all had for protein specifically there because uh you know when we're talking about these health based conversations it's a lot about protein and i remember you know when i left non-veg in life that was my fear that where am i going to get my protein because i was at like 180


to get my protein because i was at like 180 grams 200 grams of protein every day eating chicken eating meat and just i i once you switch into vegetarianism that's a fear for everyone man but i'd love to know what warrior monks have for protein oh we're purely vegetarian no eggs kind of stuff as well um where we got our proteins from was from from tofu mainly tofu is like you know one of the most stable things they say that you know tofu has a high level of estrogen uh which is true but i think uh what matters the most in your diet is the air that you breathe in the water that you drink so how um like bombay is so polluted beijing is so polluted water isn't that clean um so your health you will need a lot of extra supplements like to add up to your diet in shaolin we never needed any add-on supplements to add up to our diet because the air that we were breathing the water we drinking and the basic


were breathing the water we drinking and the basic things that is that the vegetable is a sweet potato potato uh a lot of greens that are there a lot of mushrooms that are there like a lot of different different things are there noodle soups and salads are the most stable thing rice sorry right white rice noodles and soup these are the most stable things that we drink there's bao bao is very famous um you know like chow mein chow mein is like fried rice fried noodles uh that's that's again very famous so we had all these things which were there in just the whole um lifestyle became in such a way um it just covered up whatever body needed and how much we were exerting throughout the day so there was no calculative intake that was happening it was all just very naturally merged with the air that you're breathing with the water with the training with the fruits and milk and just veggies everything was just there how does your body change visually why i


just there how does your body change visually why i feel i felt a lot lighter after i turned from non-veg to vegetarian i felt a lot lighter i felt a lot of cleansing happening i felt my my senses became more sharper and more alert um i also personally started feeling my digestive system started improving a lot like to a very very high extent um but like visually like when you looked at yourself in a mirror are they mirrors i'm sure there are that's a very good question no one's ever asked me that we don't have mirrors in our washroom wow because we all are bald and uh to not be conscious to look at yourself and just to know that everybody is just one part of one community do you think everyone thinks the same once they become a shaolin monk like all of y'all had the same personality yeah definitely which is this what we see in front of us today yes definitely now i mean after four four almost five years in


now i mean after four four almost five years in china and shaolin i moved to los angeles then my hair grew back i was over there with you know my my stunt team hollywood stunt team members with you know they were part of the jackie chan stunt team marshall club stunt team so you know i trained a lot of cinematic martial arts with them i worked on you know small small things basically they taught me a lot that's required how you control in front of the camera kind of stuff like real stuff that you do uh how to not literally impact it and that was a very nice experience you know like the whole jackie chan world kind of fight and action and training martial arts was just very new to me and now yeah you know bro um and through podcasting i end up meeting a lot of different people and obviously i sense the energy i sense their mind i sense their mentality uh but when i first meet them you know before the podcast how we met in that other room


before the podcast how we met in that other room yeah um what struck out at me were your eyes like your eyes have a lot of peace in them they have fire for sure which is your warrior energy but they have a lot of peace and love in them which i've seen in gauranga das actually i spoke to you about the gaurangana's podcast he's his elder brother um and i've seen the same level of peace only in him like so that's a huge compliment thank you so this is your monkhood kind of speaking up through your eyes but i'm sure you get a lot of girl attention now because of uh just the you know the outward nature of your inner being bro i know you understood what i mean by that it does change the way you look on the outside yeah so uh have you noticed that not just girls but generally people look at you in a different light like you do have this aura about you um obviously when somebody's just crossing by they're not going


when somebody's just crossing by they're not going to feel that because probably they are moving to do something else but when like if i meet new people like you know how we we met i'm sure i can absorb you guys energy you guys absorb my energy um if i'm going to a shop to place an order for something for xyz um then you know we're just having a normal conversation like what do you do or where are you from like you know this is the very basic things that are asked to us in india you know by indian families and indian just parents in in our friends houses and our families you know whatever is there so yeah they do tell me different things that there is so much of you know peace but like i said you know everybody's life they have um different ups and downs it's not like my life is the most the best sorted life you know i have my my own of my journey that i'm taking care of you know their ups and downs and um


care of you know their ups and downs and um there will be blue and gray but i won't let the last stay you know i won't let the grace stay so you know it's okay i mean it's just part of life uh speaking about your america trip especially there's a big uh mixed martial arts culture there as you know ufc all that so now as a shaolin monk when you studied different kinds of martial arts at such a high level from the shaolin temple plus you're doing your breathing plus you're going about staying calm staying with that warrior mentality feel free to answer this question in whatever way you wish to answer but if someone puts you in a ufc cage do you think you'll be able to fend for yourself easily as humble as i can be and speak i don't really look up to mma in a way because i don't think they follow any discipline they have taken bits and pieces bits and pieces from everything and they've made it into a money-making


from everything and they've made it into a money-making business which is great no offense no nothing against them but i can't resonate i can't relate to that and i can't be a part of that but yes if you ask me if i need to be in the cage with someone and to fight them uh my defense is definitely my attack because this is the first thing every martial artist is taught uh but it will be a good one i'm sure okay that's all i can say no got it yeah it's not the way you look that matters it's you know it's it's all about your inner power like you look at master bruce lee look at look at you know master jackie chan look at master jet li don yan yes they do really crazy stuff in camera but what before they came on the camera they were doing real stuff so that's where when i you know learned i learned the real stuff and then you know when i went to america that's where i learned the stuff how to


america that's where i learned the stuff how to control in front of the camera to make it look more visually appealing more cinematically uh beautiful yeah um but okay now say hypothetically you're in a scenario where you're in some gully somewhere and 10 guys come at you how will your mind switch at that point as a shaolin monk um it's like my senses will definitely get much sharper and wanting to know are they going to attack me or what they are what their intentions are like you know firstly i would like to know that did i do something wrong to anyone which i really doubt i would not because you know i want to do goodbye people right by people always and just spread my you know my teachings through my school and through my life that's going to capture me on you know in front of the in front of the lens um it would be it would be pretty badass that's all i can say and um when i when i perform uh when you hear


um when i when i perform uh when you hear the sound of the breath uh when you literally like you know explode when you're doing explosive movements that's when your your chi your breath is doing the work and it's coming out of your body and that's where the explosivity comes so when you're doing like a fist form you know my eagle fist i'm doing uh techniques are very important uh technique is practiced through repetition of you know of movements one movement is done like probably ten thousand twenty thousand times but um you can't always be calculative because you can't calculate a person's height with weight right you can't do that so it's very situational my master always told me we always be application oriented so whatever we learn in our shaolin kung fu it's all application oriented so we know how to apply these things in real life so um i don't i'm not a violent person no no i'm one of the most peaceful people i've come across and i'm not a


people i've come across and i'm not a violent person i like to stay you know you know away from this but uh there comes a time to save someone or myself i will hands down to it no matter what have you ever been in a situation like that oh that's for not yet i've been in a friendly fight which was um like a combat just for fun it was a nice one so right before we recorded this episode you were talking to me about naruto and how you still watch it how you are naruto so i have not watched much of naruto to be honest i know what it's about because my cousins my team they're all very big naruto people too has been like a big influence in my life i mean i got to know bernardo after i became a martial artist i didn't know about it before i knew about dragon ball z but it never really like you know put that fire in me it was just like oh it's fun oh look at that you know that


oh it's fun oh look at that you know that that fireball and this and that kamehameha yeah kaminami and so sorry firewall is more of of naruto more familiar with the naruto terms naruto is is crazy i still watch one episode a day wow and uh and naruto sakura and sasuke and hitachi these all guys have like really inspired me and honestly when i'm training like since the last four years i've been watching naruto i listen to naruto motivational music that's my go-to like music to listen to tracks to listen to when i'm training um you told me that there were parallels in your monk training journey a warrior monk training journey with the anime with naruto so what were the parallels what are the similarities in that show versus what you actually do that's a very interesting one and difficult one because i initially felt not accepted at the temple because i was considered just a normal foreign student which is great i think everybody is a foreign student


which is great i think everybody is a foreign student they come in on non-chinese people i never wanted my master to take that approach on me and be lenient in the in the real sense that i'm going to be speaking now i literally had to convince one of my friends from costa rica to help me write a letter to him and to not take me lightly in a way that you know i'm being lenient with me and i would like for him to be treating me in a way that you know all his younger brothers shaolin brothers monk brothers are treated and the training to be more aggressive and intense and you know hard and to push me to my limits where you know um i'm literally like not even zero i'm minus so like you know coming from minus two whatever level two three i'm at right now in life uh i would you know i had to write him a letter in chinese and mandarin i wrote a letter with my friend from costa rica he helped me


with my friend from costa rica he helped me write it and i had to tell him that you know please don't behind me please train me you know so i think um what really got to me the relation that i'm trying to make is naruto's master jiraya sama so jiraya sama initially was definitely going to train naruto and um there were times where you know like he wanted more he wanted more you know he's like no teach me more you know teach me more so i think that's where i connected with naruto that he's always so like behind his master i personally feel you need to be hungry for things in life if you really want to do something you have to be hungry that that that thirst and that hunger needs to be that to acquire something so the same way i had that hunger and thirst for my master not to be lenient and teach me in a more serious and rather than just like oh he's a foreign student he's going to learn for a


a foreign student he's going to learn for a couple of months and then go on i didn't want that approach so that's where i really relate to naruto and his vision of you know he wanting to be like the best ninja uh to be you know the hokage and you know all of that was like was just commendable you know for him to achieve his dreams through hard work through just determination to this discipline and that's where i completely relate to naruto you know his lifestyle and you know many other characters also have inspired me like rock lee there's a character called rockley rockley was injured you know his life was given up um you know he could not be able to do it and he's the only person who does like taijitsu uh where he does not have any genji super kenjitsu or genjitsu power or anything at all ninjutsu so he like worked hard and he believed in himself his master believe you know through just hard work just completely work hard


you know through just hard work just completely work hard work hard work hard and keep your mind straight laser like focus and there's no thinking of what the result is going to be good or bad but it will be good because your intentions are good it will definitely be good because your hard work is going to be paying you back but just be at it and don't let anything deviate you divert you from your focus and your goal in life nothing has the right to do that to you you know no no i love you just a lot of naruto episodes running in my head right now bro one thing i didn't tell you after the hindi conversation was i went i went to my boys and uh they were asking you i was fumbling so much in that episode i just said i don't know do i just love this guy too much like just whoever you are you're a blessing to this room like i'm i'm blessed to be here i'm humbled that you're talking to us and uh


humbled that you're talking to us and uh like i'm happy to be here like you know lately i don't know what's happened we were in goa as a break i came back felt recharged was working i don't know what's happened this week man it's thursday today since monday i've just felt like i've lost my hunger for more and i've always seen this with this particular podcast that whatever i personally need in life it comes to some of one of our guests comes so yeah i've seen a couple of your podcasts and all the guests who've come like so far i've seen are like amazing they've been very inspirational yes who are you bro like you know this we started this podcast for conversations like this people who had experiences who've seen something new and speaking about experiences one thing i would like really love for you to explain is uh in the last episode you briefly touched upon using your energy your own uh energy the power that's already within you the power


uh energy the power that's already within you the power of your soul to actually turn into physical strength to turn into explosivity i'm sure that that's one application of it maybe another application is increasing your focus through your own g maybe another application is your own mental explosive power but specifically from the perspective of physical power can you describe that moment where you used your inner power to actually break something or turn your hand into a piece of metal however you want to describe it so yes i will tell you two stories uh the first story is the most traditional knowledge of shaolin kung fu that not many even chinese speak about it it's called the six harmonies of shaolin achievement method six harmonies are the three harmonies inside and three harmonies outside so in chinese we call it the um this is called the sixth harmony shaolin achievement method in chinese we call it the leoha yochang golden achievement method yeah shaolin method um so it's called means three harmonies inside three harmonies outside uh


means three harmonies inside three harmonies outside uh why san hor sure outside harmonies are show you do your fist and your feet your foot in one line for jo you she your elbow and your knee in one line jin you qua your shoulder and your hip in one line so these three have to be parallel and aligned always whenever you're doing any movement whether it's fist form weapon animal style always once you have this clarity in your stances then the cultivation of your inner harmonies and her sure inside three harmonies are she she knew his heart and mind mind and breath the thought the connection of your heart mind mind breath is the explosive power that comes out is called the it's called the power that comes out it's called is power so the collective energy of these six harmonies is what comes out uh in an explosive form in a form where you have completely applied these six things and you know brought them in the harmonical way of uniting and being together and


harmonical way of uniting and being together and that's where the product of shaolin you know you get better with with practice with time in layman's terms maybe your attacks get stronger i would not say attacks but because we are not always having a sparring partner when we are doing office form we are more like even we do performances we do practice for ourselves where our imagination so i have this one code that i always you know really you know followed imagination of the right application imagination of the application is the right cultivation so imagination of the application is the right cultivation even when you don't have an opponent is the way you're going to practice your master will come to you imagining right or not so application you do it with a partner and without a partner as well when he or she is not there but that feeling of the spirit that comes out and my shifu always said peace and heart anger on face anger and face anger on face but peace and heart i think even that anger and face


peace and heart i think even that anger and face is sort of a warrior thing yeah it's more of like a mindset like a go-getter mentality a warrior mindset but always peace out not harming others i think this is something you learn uh probably after going through yoga after going through detailed martial arts that your body works like a certain kind of electric circuit and if it's aligned in a certain way both on the outside and on the inside it creates a flow of power yeah that's why they say that certain yoga postures if you maintain them for a very long time yeah things change within your body both from a physical perspective like a biological perspective things change certain hormones are balanced out certain um nervous uh certain parts of your nervous system are slightly more worked and you feel these in the long term uh you also feel certain emotions in certain yoga postures like bhadrasana the butterfly posture yeah it's supposed to release a lot of emotions like


it's supposed to release a lot of emotions like i remember this one time i was very stressed i started doing a yoga so i didn't go to bhadrasana and started kind of weeping during bhadra uh later on i saw some videos i think from sadhguru where he spoke about how certain postures just release certain emotions in your body so very true powers in your body and again only when you've done martial arts like that you realize the power of technique and what is technique it's alignment of body body and breath yeah and your mind mind definitely we speak more of the body and breath mind is something which you know you have committed to mind is completely um you know the three c's of life that we talk about the choices chances and changes you know so how you directly train your mind and your body will follow so but when your body is following you also need to make sure your breath is working along with your body otherwise uh there can be a little bit


your body otherwise uh there can be a little bit of imbalance in your in your posture in your movement so you have to make sure that the breathing is right so that's why a good master will first teach you how to breathe right and then we'll teach you the movements after that and then it'll combine both of them have you tried doing any kind of yoga after you came back um i to be honest i had one of my yoga brothers uh junaid junaid he's a sufi yoga practitioner so he um practice a younger yoga so he taught me a couple of you know movements in yoga practice and that's the only time i practice but i'm never thoroughly committed to the practice yet but i am i'm hoping that um i want to learn more i want to explore more because this is so close knitted to you know the shaolin culture it's like the roots of it and i'm looking forward to explore this in in a very detailed way yeah you


this in in a very detailed way yeah you know since you're also a footballer oh yeah we gotta talk about zlatan ibrahimovic dude did you know his documentary just came out yeah yeah he'll watch it i haven't seen it but uh i've been an admirer of him since he was at juventus you know like yeah del piero and but never expected him to go down the path that he went on of being a top scorer of laligar at age 40 correct and you there are certain things you understand after watching football for many years one of which is i've discovered the power that flexibility holds i feel like yes zlatan is a huge guy great technique but if you see a lot of his game it's how he's and he's made his body kind of endure over the years through things like flexibility through things like training professionalism but when you as a martial artist and a former footballer when you see zlatan ibrahimovic what do you pick up about his body why


what do you pick up about his body why is he sustained and also if you could give amateur listeners like people don't know much about football a little bit of a brief about who zlatan is he's a swedish national football team player captain and uh there is a street that's actually named after him in sweden in stockholm um and uh zlatan um what i personally see zlatan you said you know he was a new way uh he was in ac milan uh he was at basa and then he came to psg and now he's at la galaxy if i'm not wrong no but ellie garcia and he came back to ac milan he's back to ac milanos i didn't i didn't follow him that much recently since you know the school was happening but zlatan is one he reminds me of bruce lee he's the football bruce lee of football that's what i personally feel um i feel cristiano ronaldo copies zlatan completely in a way like that's my personal


completely in a way like that's my personal opinion just as a person uh because there was a video that came out of joga bonito long back long long back where uh you know like it's just both of them having like a jugalbandi like a kind of a thing going on you know like he's doing the same thing and he's doing the same thing and you know zlatan was like way way ahead of ronaldo that time i don't know what's the age difference i think zlatan is older than yeah yeah so zlatan is a person who i feel um i feel he's one of the most calmest persons and the most calmest people are the ferocious warriors and your ferociousness comes through your movements and if you see his moments his finishes his attack system that's what makes him the best and that's what master bruce always spoke about about the most successful fighter in the room is going to be the calmest one so you learn how to be a common and i think zlatan


how to be a common and i think zlatan is one of them what do you make of that statement the most successful fighter is the calmest one learning to respond rather than to react learning to sit back and observe uh learning to [Music] study the environment of the situation rather than just you know seeing it from like from from the outside because i feel anger sometimes erases the environment and it just puts you single-mindedly on the object of the anger but when you remove the anger you're able to see things from a wide open wider perspective very true i agree with you i second that completely i also personally feel that uh anger is a beautiful emotion i feel uh many people don't embrace anger in the right way and for example virat kohli people say he's very arrogant but his arrogant counsel comes out in his performance that's what i've seen i'm not a huge cricket fan i'm an indian but you know i'm not a huge cricket fan i love football and that's my loyalty


cricket fan i love football and that's my loyalty always but whatever i've seen the semi-finals and the and the final matches that i've seen uh you know his ferociousness is seen you know he is he's the one who's who's arrogance he wants to show it in his performance uh we had this we have this or we had this footballer right now he's playing i don't know balotelli balotelli the italian guy and you know even he had a very similar thing and he's like he's a lot of attitude a lot of arrogance but he performed so well in the euros he did so well in the world cup he did so well there were times you know when he was playing for ac milan before that i think he was playing for chelsea city sorry man city sorry my bad man city was playing so he was doing so well but it was his arrogance that was pushing and boosting his performance so anger is a beautiful emotion if channeled right in the right manner yeah um


if channeled right in the right manner yeah um you know again it's it's something that uh i have not thought a lot about maybe because i have had anger issues growing up so it's something that i've always tried to let go of and probably it had turned into arrogance early on in my career and i was trying to fuel it through just getting myself so tired with work that the arrogance and the anger just fades away uh but keeping in mind that whole fading away process um we spoke a lot about meditation offline when we were in that room yeah you know throughout the day brother so what was the worry among meditation like like what did you do other than the breath work i'm assuming it began with breath work but there were certain other kinds of meditations there are several kinds of meditation that is while gazing meditation that is standing like a post like a tree meditation where you're standing and meditating but before we get into the details of this um i


before we get into the details of this um i would like to just highlight that meditation comes through stillness and through movement so when you're for example for a dancer a person who's dancing he or she is you know in his in his or her meditative zone where they completely so dwell in their practice so for them that is the meditative side people who work out people who go for business you know entrepreneurship business handle offices a nine-to-five job they have that half an hour one hour time to the day like oh that's my meditation time because i want to work out i want to sweat you know i really want to sweat a lot so that's what makes them that's the time for them to meditate so even in shaolin we had certain types of meditation so my master always said that it doesn't matter if you're not closing your eyes the point is to be aware of your breath and your body being aligned and that's the meditation through movement but different kinds of meditation wall


meditation through movement but different kinds of meditation wall gazing is that's what bodhi dharma the father of shaolin culture started was um keeping facing towards the wall keeping your eyes open continuously staring at one spot keeping a breath completely relaxed and trying to reflect that energy that's falling from your eyes to the wall and coming back to you so you're basically self-healing through your own energy reflecting back to you that's what his uh meditation is and in fact in the cave which is behind the mountain or you know the temple dharma mountain there is a the cave which is a dharma cave they say that you know he meditated so hard that his reflection of his eye literally just got em embossed on the wall literally it's actually a story and it could be true i'm sure i won't be surprised because he meditated for nine nine years i don't want you to expand on what i'm going to ask you and just give me a yes or no question you know


just give me a yes or no question you know answer are there certain things that you learned at the monastery at the shaolin temple that you are not allowed to speak about in the public yes okay okay cool we'll move on to the next one um so i've been reading a lot about neuroscience lately and um neuroscience if you really want to learn it it begins with learning about the applications of the nervous system okay so there's multiple applications this movement you know if i want to move my arm i said the word movement the message went to my brain my brain sent a message to my arm saying okay now now lift it up certain muscles work in a certain way and those muscles are fired up by your nervous system that's one application you can list out a lot of applications like that off your noses release of hormones um you know feelings thoughts but something i found very fascinating is the simplest application of the nervous system okay so just put your feet out


nervous system okay so just put your feet out on the floor okay you're wearing socks right now but your foot is able to feel the texture of the socks and then it's also able to feel the texture of the flow okay now bro just look at me and look at my palm now all your attention went to my palm so part of your nose system earlier was just focusing on your feet but your feet have always been on the floor throughout this podcast but you've been in the conversation so your nervous system's most basic application is that one it knows that okay my feet are on the floor but two you can re-fire those same nervous patterns to really notice that your feet are on the floor if i tell you okay focus completely on the sole of your feet you've taken all of your focus and fired it down to your foot and this is a very basic way to explain the concept of mindfulness which you explain yeah which is that you just focus on a point


yeah which is that you just focus on a point on the wall you focus on your breath and you keep re-firing your nervous system to focus on one thing correct that's basically what all forms of meditations boil down to there are supplemental benefits like mantras give you certain energies um not thinking about resonance of sound yeah yeah definitely but it's basically this that you're taking all of your focus your nervous system energy your chi your basically and putting it down one path correct now if that path is within your mind a mantra noticing your breath which also actually happens in your mind not your breath you keep pulling your focus away from your family problems your friends your life your ego yourself and keep putting it into that one path over time if you do this daily it does increase your focus and then you can use that focus as a weapon to do other things in your daily life right so that's a big like benefit of meditation for me and that's where you really


of meditation for me and that's where you really understand the power of neuroscience you learn it uh you learn the theory of neuroscience and you realize oh okay there's also these parallels with the world of spiritualism correct so um because you guys have to meditate every day plus from what i hear of you and all your experiences at the shaolin temple i feel like every single activity you did you're dead with a sense of mindfulness while i'm training i'm just in this in this yeah so your whole life there was meditation true because you were firing up your nervous system like that if i'm playing with a sword i'm playing as a wrong word if i'm using a sword from wielding a sword i'm just with that sword it's just me and that's right if i'm meditating i'm just in the meditation what did that do for you when you were going to bed when you were waking up in the morning what did it give you as a human being because you were doing something


you as a human being because you were doing something that the human body is built to do but that most human beings don't do in modern urban setups and cities you don't see people doing this people watch tv and eat at the same time people talk on the phone and do something else people are with their friends but they're also in their phones so because our nervous system is fired in all these places at different times our nervous systems aren't strong enough but from everything we've spoken about on the hindi episode on the english episode i feel like your nervous system is extremely powerful and that's what gives you your abilities to take on people in possible mma fights possibly on the road to people come and attack you possibly stay stable you know while i'm talking to i can feel it how much just in this conversation you are no else like i can see you scanning me as well and i'm doing the same but like um what did it do for you as a person because people need to hear


for you as a person because people need to hear this this is the outcome of experience well i'm not going to break it down in a way where it's scientific i'm just going to break it down in a way that it's more experience based that you know i experience on a daily basis when we speak of mindfulness when we speak of attaining zen zen is a very simple practice of doing one thing at a time and being focused in the moment and focusing on that one thing and enjoying every bit of what you're doing that's what zen is that's what being mindful is when you're doing certain things uh what i gained after i did these things in every routine that i everything that i had in my routine persistence gets you there consistency keeps you there my progress started being observed by me progress in the terms of the way i started looking at the outside world the way i started looking at myself the way i started seeing difference in my physical energy my mental and my spiritual energy um definitely


energy my mental and my spiritual energy um definitely you know detachment was happening detachment from or detachment from the outside world definitely materialism um yeah but i was i've never been i've never been in a you know in a place in life where you know where i've been very attached to materialistic things um you know i'm very happy and grateful that you know my parents have given me whatever they could and they could afford uh but i personally feel attachment in a way where um sorry detachment in a way where there is um no baggage in your subconscious because you are out there on a mission because this is the only one and one and one in the lifetime opportunity for you to be here and to do it so for example i got the one time opportunity in my life to become a warrior monk to be adopted as a volume monk i want to make the most use of it i'm not being selfish i'm just making time for myself i'm not hurting anyone and i


for myself i'm not hurting anyone and i just want to i have targets you know missions and i want to do that and i want to acquire certain things i want to study i want to gain all the possible knowledge and i want to just just want to be there and be focused and be mindful when i'm doing that so detachment through attachment i love my family but you know there was certain distance that you know happened uh i was in touch with them every week i used to talk to them uh but there was no um you know too much of involvement you know we we are indians we are very family people emotional people we are cultured in a way where you know festivals are there then you know occasions are there so all those things are very i was very detached from and um i think once i got detached when you're you're completely detached from things i mean you know what your mission is that's where you literally start seeing your progress otherwise you know your energy


literally start seeing your progress otherwise you know your energy gets you know just divided in in like frequencies it's ten percent there twenty percent there fifty percent the sixty you know just gets too scattered uh which is not going to determine your progress at all yeah you know they say this in the world of yoga as well that if you want to gauge your spiritual progress you gauge your behavior and situations has your behavior situations improved because no matter how spiritually evolved you get as a person you will have situations in your life where you feel like lashing out at some family member at some close friend maybe at some point in business it happens i'm online yeah but definitely happens yeah if you're ahead of where you were a year ago that means you've spiritually progressed a bit definitely i i personally feel um i've learned to let go of situations and i've learned to be be detached to by not being involved in anybody else's life too much because i


involved in anybody else's life too much because i wouldn't wouldn't want that either so i try to be more empathetic towards people in a way where how he or she is feeling or i try to think so would i like it if he or she behave like this with me so why should i do the same so it's more of a constant reminder to yourself um of of you know doing good consciously doing good consciously thinking good because everything starts with your intention even in a bhagavad-gita it said you know intention is what matters the most and don't run behind the fruit of the result of your intention you know focus on the intention and the action that's going to be taking you to your fruits yeah yes exactly but brother okay you know this is a slightly straight-up question to you yes and i'm sure there are people in our audience thinking about this uh what is the deal with masturbation and sex when you're training to become a monk warrior like what is


training to become a monk warrior like what is the opinion on it what are the urges like because everyone's human right so what is that whole process like um i'll be very honest uh i practiced celibacy i was celibate for five and a half years uh almost six years i was celibate uh you know monk life and even after monk life uh you know i was you know i wasn't as i was not in a relationship or anything but coming meeting people um meeting students meeting friends you know everything was there meeting new people so they were your your human human human sperm male sperm is such a thing it's the most strongest element of your body if you learn to have control over those desires that means you're reaching on a very higher conscious level uh you are not suppressing them there is a very big misunderstanding amongst people oh you're suppressing your emotions you're suppressing your urges your desires but it's not suppression it's about focusing on things giving importance on


it's about focusing on things giving importance on to things which are going to benefit you in that environment and atmosphere me wanting to masturbate me wanting to have urges to have sex it's not going to give me any any progress in what i'm doing in shaolin temple so that's where the community is built in a way that they are given knowledge of uh you know the male sperm has uh you know it's the highest element uh you know in the in the science as well it's proven in yoga also it's proven so they focus on not talking much about it and not focusing on these activities and you're so engrossed in doing a routine on daily basis for months and years and years that that part completely dies and obviously because once you share that with someone uh once you're you know your union union happens with your partner uh yeah it's an exchange of energy it's a system exchange that's happening uh which is very spiritual which is very great but once you're


very spiritual which is very great but once you're ready for it but as a monk you know there are certain protocols guidelines oaths vows that we take and we want to maintain that because we are on a very higher conscious level than just people regularly you know who are who are living a life which is you know in the city nine to five job or whatever they are doing so um masturbation and and sex is a very no very common thing in fact i get asked what did you do not feel like having sex they did not want to masturbate and i'm like no like i i was not focusing on those things because my focus goes energy flows so my focus and energy were flowing in a way where i really had mission and my targets and i really wanted to just work hard and be in the moment and enjoy what i was doing and it never came out and i definitely did have issues after you know coming back to the city and i'm like you know i don't think about it


i'm like you know i don't think about it i don't think about it i don't have it in me you know i just don't have it in me so you know it was just like that but you know because you're so conscious of working your chi as a warrior monk yeah do you sense the chi that your semen also brings like are you conscious of that oh yes i do okay you know actually we've taken tangents away from your daily life in the temple we've reached i think lunchtime or post lunch yeah so we reached post lunch where we had another three hours of training that was from about 2 30 to 5 30 after that we had break breakfast something after that we have dinner after dinner we had meditation so it was either after training we had meditation and then dinner and then night training after dinner night training yeah we had night tuning seven to nine which is what just self training still physical yeah physical training just do self training meditation was there afternoon used to


do self training meditation was there afternoon used to be after just immediately after lunch when we had like a one and a half two hour break so one hour or 45 minutes we used to have philosophy in medicine classes um after the afternoon training and between uh the meditation if sometimes meditation is not there so every alternative is we used to go for medicine because the pharmacy shaolin medicine is considered the most you know where my knee got healed is the most highly place of healing it's considered you know in asia in the world actually but many asians know about it since this school about it so charlotte medicine pharmacies they shut by six o'clock so just before dinner time that time so six o'clock 6 6 15 is dinner so 5 45 6 is dinner so just before that you know 45 minutes we used to have like a um when tourists are about to go when there are less tourists you know uh we are coming and seeing uh practical studies that are going on we're learning


uh practical studies that are going on we're learning the pressure points so the the the nodes we call node in chinese we call it the nodes that are there you know on your body the pressures basically we speak about that and now which is part of the muscle is going to be released uh if you press somewhere you know how it's going to be affecting the other side you know study all these pressures i studied mainly acupressure you know medicine is something which is very great uh but yeah these are the things so it was very routine and structure and then after dinner we had one and a half two hours of self training where you practice your own stuff uh whether it's your weapons whether your fist forms your your animal style or or anything else that you want to do and and then sleep by nine thirty are there ever any arguments between monks i had an argument once when we went to guangzhou for archery training so i'm a professional archer as well out of so zen archery


professional archer as well out of so zen archery is another culture that's indeed introduced in shaolin culture so in 2017 out of 120 warrior monks eight warrior monks were sent to guangzhou for intense four month training ten hours a day so i was one of the eight uh the only non-chinese since i was the north chinese on the team so uh we train in archery we got the culture back uh you know we are trying to participate in competitions and one of my among brother you know during the training that was happening he felt a little uh offended that you know i was i was i was being bad just a day back and then today i'm like the best so he was like what have you done are you cheating on your points and you know he was trying to like you know play along with me which turned into like i'm like dude like you know why why why are you you know saying this like there's no harm like there's no point in you saying


no harm like there's no point in you saying this like you know it's it's it's like silly and i didn't understand that he was joking because at that time when you're so serious and focused you're calculating your points and everything you don't perceive things in a very joking way or take things in a very sporting way in that moment you know i'm sure his intentions were very clean but that led to like a very minor argument uh which didn't fire up in any way but yeah it was something which i really remember because it was very that's the first time i felt like competition with one of my brothers as well so yeah the teachers you had your shifus yeah what are their stories like why have they dedicated their whole life to this process like what has happened in their past so um many of these monks they come from villages from background where you know um village background and everything uh where their situation is not that great and you know financially or however it is many