happened yeah uh and I put all my friends in a whole other category you know nothing has happened to me when I saw my friends for the first time I mean they might be very good looking just sometimes you just don't feel that attraction and while they're talking about all these things related to good relationships and love somewhere that person has to make you feel like a little teenager with butterflies in your stomach at the first go College Zaza Zoo right like butterflies in your stomach like that Rush of like oxytocin in your system like who that girl like what just happened like on the the violence going back to Shahrukh Khan entering and the violins going off it's exactly like that yeah pre-bdsm moments yes interesting yeah ah and again while I think it's important for everyone to know relationship Theory relationship psychology don't let go of your childish innocence in that process of Love also definitely like uh one of the things is emotional innocence and vulnerability and


the things is emotional innocence and vulnerability and if you can be that authentic self to somebody that's a huge plus it's a huge gift it's a huge gift all right for one final micro section of this podcast uh we gotta address the signals there's lots of singles watching this there's a single sitting right in front of you so what a single life the good life what's the advice especially on Valentine's Day when you're feeling fomo when you're feeling lack you're alone what's your advice call call your single friends go out cut a cake be like just sort of you know there's a reason you are where you are okay it does it's not in a uh in a sad way but I think like again now the 20s take being single very seriously the 30 is actually like celebrated the 40s also the earlier 40s sometimes even celebrated that it's okay it's fine I'm very happy being single again Solitude versus loneliness okay you really want to cope you're really not


okay you really want to cope you're really not doing okay maybe some people have broken up around Valentine's Day which is like really really hard because then your brain comes and you think about what would have happened what could you have done Etc I would say that if it's really really hard definitely talk to somebody you know don't do this on your own you have an option to not do this on your own okay get out go out with your friends enjoy yourself if you can if your version of Happy at that time is to stay at home chill Netflix eat a tub of ice cream do what makes you happy on Valentine's Day because it's about love and love is not just with somebody else it's with yourself as well so start with yourself start from there do you have any suggestions in terms of attracting a relationship into your life spiritual psychological Neuroscience I don't know whatever you want well if you are single and you will feel like you're struggling with relationships look at a different formula


you're struggling with relationships look at a different formula if you think that you're constantly applying the same formula and that it's not working maybe there is something else they that you need to look at okay thanks good podcast thank you this was fun I was just showcasing my sense of humor all the single ladies out there no I'm kidding I showcase my sense if you want every single podcast not just in this I know for that I've seen that and uh yeah I have a good Valentine's Day thank you like no matter who it is just start with self-love really start with self-love and this is not some like Instagram real or anything but really start with yourself start with yourself and sort of put it out there put it out there [Music] thank you for being on the show thank you ranveer thanks for a slight doctor engines on this one next two episodes are going to be about serial killers and about a lot of other Ducks though this is just the beginning we found the


though this is just the beginning we found the TRS All-Stars you can tell thank you Namaste so much thank you guys see you later that was the episode for today helped me a lot I'm sure it helped many of you not going to say too much about Hawaii ma'am All I'm gonna say is that she's going to be back on the show the next time we're going to talk about darker topics I feel we've just begun to explore the world of psychology on the show I don't know if this is a domain that the listeners enjoy I love speaking about psychology the one request I have of you guys is if you've not seen our first episode make sure you go check that one out and the second request is share the psychology episode with as many people as is possible the more we spread the knowledge about psychology the more gentle the world will get according to me in the long term and I feel like this is one of those fields of the future that's now become a


those fields of the future that's now become a field of present we're living in the age of mental health issues we're living in the age of all the world leaders highlighting EQ or emotional quotients and psychology is the answer to many of these questions that people are thinking about nowadays learn more about it dive deeper into the subject there's a lot more unpacked tell me what you thought of these two episodes down below and make sure you follow us on Spotify every episode's available on Spotify 48 hours before it's available anywhere else in the world a meditation and yoga app level super mind is now live make sure you go check it out make sure you go download it you'll earn yourself a one week free trial and until next time from ranveeran theme we will see you later lots of love [Music] thank you [Music]


everything felt silent and I had a gut feeling you know she's gone she's not there anymore but we had to you know gather all the devices and all and uh we went to all the rooms to figure out if we have left anything now remember that doll I threw to that one particular corner it was captured live on camera when I entered the dog was back in its original position none of us went back to that room because they're always around me because of how [ __ ] scared they were both leaving kilometers apart are facing the same thing what everyone's electrical appliances are fluctuating at the same time how can that be a coincidence okay fluctuating voltage fluctuation you know fluctuating okay there could be some reason fluctuating the same time how is it possible that is when they both connected and by now they have no idea things are happening it is only after the day later Puja texts Savio you know what what happened at my place like uh what the


what happened at my place like uh what the [ __ ] something has happened to my place either the get to know but we make sure that nothing is following us this is the first out of a two-part special with sarabjit mohanti who's considered to be one of the leaders when it comes to paranormal investigation as a subject the occult as a subject and ghosts as a subject in India talking to him was a revelation for me because of course this is a subject that fascinates me it's always fascinated me since I was a child chances are if you're watching this episode if you're consuming it it's a subject that's fascinated you as well this particular episode was slightly more scientifically inclined because I was trying to understand exactly how paranormal investigators operate again as with many TRS episodes of late this one was a heavy two-part special we always highlight the power of meditation prayer and spiritualism when we're talking about such topics even in this episode we


talking about such topics even in this episode we spoke a lot about meditation and how it becomes a shield when it comes to the Paranormal I'll let you slip into it and let you enjoy it all I'll say is that also check out our meditation app level supermind we've built it over the last two years with the intention of getting many people to begin meditating to get many people to further their meditation Journeys the first week is completely free of cost if you download it on the links given down below for more episodes of TRS make sure you follow us on Spotify every episode's available on Spotify 48 hours before it's available anywhere else in the world this is sarabjit mohanti with a mind-bending two-part special on the runway show foreign [Music] thank you so much for inviting here so looking forward to it uh so is the audience honestly I know exactly what we're going to get out of this episode yes there's just a very strange Vibe forming even right now


just a very strange Vibe forming even right now uh how are you bro firstly I'm good you're just manifesting things right now so yeah that's where I am what does that mean so um I'll be very uh honest um there there were certain uh things in my bucket list that I've been manifesting over the years uh being invited here was one of them so I manifested it right now so yeah that's what I'm doing vice versa uh I've seen your name on the calendar for a while okay and I've been staring at this thing that yep that's finally that's the episode yeah Paranormal Investigator how do you even begin explaining that to someone it's very difficult though considering um the kind of uh how do I say the the perception we have to a subject like Paranormal so whenever we talk about oh I'm a Paranormal Investigator the first thing they say is oh the ghost was Busters know that we have seen I'm like no no there's not no similarity between that but


no no there's not no similarity between that but for just for the sake of a common guy trying to understand what we do just okay yeah that that's what it is you know but if I go on to actually explain what a Paranormal Investigator is it's a it's a whole different profession um that uh that that uh is very new to India uh very famous outside but very new to India and uh you have to actually want to explain we investigate the claims of paranormal you know if there is a place that is said to be haunted a place that uh has things that uh a normal scientific logical explanation is not able to do that that's where we step in and you know if there's an explanation we try to figure it out and basically yeah that's what we are investigators and that's what separates us from Ghost Hunters so there's a different term so people do get confused that uh paranormal investigators and Ghost Hunters are same they're not by the name Ghost Hunters


are same they're not by the name Ghost Hunters they're trying to hunt something down so hunt can also be uh you know we can use it as a synonym that they're just trying to gain experience by going to haunted locations we are not doing that we're trying to gain experience like they just want to see an apparition they just want to see something move they are they're sorry they're there for the thrill you know that's it there's nothing there is there is no intention to figure out why is this happening okay so you go to the root of the problem yes that's why we investigate so when we whenever we get a case uh sir my house is haunted the first thing we'll do is start debunking it you are experiencing things maybe you your house is on an high EMF hotspot electromagnetic field Hot Spot your house is on high uh geomagnetic Hot Spot your house has got some you know carbon dioxide carbon monoxide leakage because all those things can hallucinate you your house


because all those things can hallucinate you your house could be very close to an electrical Transformer EMF can just mess with the human mind you could be going through what we call as EMF pollution and you can hallucinate all of those things which you are thinking as paranormal and there could be nothing paranormal at all but only after debunking all those things there is a certain category where our theories are hypothesis also fails is what we call as paranormal you know that's the argument that a lot of Skeptics have that it's all the EMF disturbance yeah that that's how science explains it yeah I think your job begins with science ends exactly exactly and it's very important see uh we I'll be lying if I say that I do not believe what I have been taught uh as a kid in in science so I'm a I'm a I'm an engineer at the end of the day yeah Bachelor is in technology so I've studied those things I know those things and whenever we


those things I know those things and whenever we are investigating even as a team or as individual we know that there are certain things that can actually happen and also you know you won't believe when I say that not just it's not just the EMF but also the human mind the human mind is capable of doing things no one has even a clue about it and all of those things can look like Paranormal but if you find the right way you can actually figure out if it is Paranormal or not but uh even the human mind is also limited to certain things there are certain things a human mind cannot do there are certain things that the EMF won't be able to do and that starts something like you're asking something to you know like you are let's say you're commanding you know move that object and the object is moving right in front of your eyes not just with you but let's say there are 30 people with you who are actually experiencing it you cannot call that fake you cannot


experiencing it you cannot call that fake you cannot call that EMF did it you cannot call that your hallucinating it you know not 30 people will be hallucinating at the same time so that's where our job starts okay okay so people are not hallucinating now there's everything we have debunked now what is causing all those things why is this environmental change that we are noticing right now why there's a drop of temperature why are you going through a headache even though you're completely fine uh why there's certain things that our body sensing our devices are sensing but we are not able to explain it so that's all paranormal is you know everybody loves hearing horror stories yeah and everyone loves talking about aliens yeah but sometimes for a lot of people when the inner child dies they start thinking that these things don't exist correct very true very true as a kid we all are very fascinated with those stories but the moment we're into this the job and everything even though they've you know


this the job and everything even though they've you know during the lockdown period uh there was a surge in the cases that we were receiving usually it used to be let's say twice in a month but when the lockdown happened and everyone was you know in the houses and everything that twice went on to 10 15 suddenly and we all were like puddle is happening why there's a surge in the covet then people somewhere like you know uh uh probably because of the number of deaths that are happening because of the kovid and everything the untimely deaths which can lead to certain hauntings of course we can come to that later um probably that's the reason but then I also noticed that it is not just in India it's happening worldwide so we have a network of paranormal investigators all over the world and we keep on discussing things there are fortunes and everything and everyone is reporting the same thing that there is an increase in cases and as we are sitting in


an increase in cases and as we are sitting in in an office uh and we with my team and I'm like you know what the hell is happening why are we getting a sudden such there's something you know like so as considering where we come from and the kinds of things we have seen uh uh the possibility of a portal opening up because of some uh sudden deaths can can be like you know it is it's not impossible you know considering what we have been through that's what I'm trying to mean like I'm not looking forward but in case you know we are always open to certain things which have never happened because if we are not open then what are we learning what will we create if we are not open to certain things there's so many things involved right now that we're enjoying because some scientists some doctors some Engineers open that this is possible an absence of evidence is not an Evidence exactly and if let's say 70 80 years ago or let's say 100


say 70 80 years ago or let's say 100 and 100 years ago someone said that iPhones are not possible how can something so so phone can be so sophisticated can do something like that and something like that that's not possible we will never have the cell phones or something like that so we're always open to those things but when these cases uh they went up we realized that you know what happened what had happened that all of these people who are reporting cases of course most of them were debunked because they had some scientific explanations but majority of them were not debunked and were concluded to be paranormal why because the activities they were facing now they used to face back then as well but because there was so much into that day-to-day job and cooking and everything that they ignored that something like that is also happening they are sitting right here there is a weird sound in the kitchen everyone's like ignore something would be happening but now when they're you know in those four


but now when they're you know in those four walls and they cannot move out and they hear the sound they are going to figure out what made that sound and they are saying there is no you know insect or no mouse or anything but just some random noise that had never happened to them now they are freaking out now they are freaking out okay this is something weird and that's how the cases went up because now even the minute or you know the things people were like this has never happened and we're like this has been happening with you for quite long time because from the psychics that we have in our team for example my partner Puja she's such a great psychic along with other people that we have in the team that they can just figure out the history of the place uh in terms of paranormal just by looking at the photographs and when we were calling for because even we were not able to move out of the house and we were asking for photographs just to help out


and we were asking for photographs just to help out the client as much as we could do uh when and when they were sharing the photos Puja and everyone's like dude this Spirit has been haunting your house for the last 30 years like even before you shifted here the spirit is here you noticed it right now so like you rightly said you know that as we grow up something dies that Curiosity dies and we start of kind of ignoring it is what actually makes me feel bad as well because you know like when you're killing one curiosity you're also killing other Curiosities simultaneously it is not just the Curiosity of finding ghosts or the Paranormal but everything else you know of course considering you you know leaving a degree and doing something that is totally unconventional there's a kick to it and that's why you're doing it same for us you know I could have done some job like my father wanted me to but I was like this is where my kick is of helping people helping


is where my kick is of helping people helping the souls so yeah very rightly what you said okay uh so many more questions yeah please um let's begin in a slightly heavier place what I will say before that is a beautiful quote I read once was everyone believes in God they just call it different names very true and a lot of times the Skeptics don't even believe in God yeah it's very common you'll see yes that they don't believe in a sense of a higher power you know but for them God is science correct moreover goddess science-based evidence I feel science is a tool in the human soil but it shouldn't dictate the human story you should keep increasing it you'd keep furthering us but not kill off your openness yeah and honestly at the core of this thought is the fact that you should let your experiences dictate and don't discount other people's experiences very true uh I want to ask you about the scariest experience you've had in your whole career there's so


experience you've had in your whole career there's so many actually um so as a part of our job you know we attend a lot of calls as requested by people and uh I I feel very blessed that um the job I'm doing with my team we get a chance to help a lot of people a lot of people who have been um how do I say uh have been to a lot of different methods and ways but have failed miserably or have been looted somewhere or the other if that's the right word and they have now come to us with all the hopes that sir my movie have seen your videos we read about you in the newspaper or something and we really want you to figure out what is happening so on such case we got an OD sub of nature so this uh was the case uh coming from and from a you know an old lady who must be in her 60s or 70s and she was only accompanied by her grandchildren no son no daughter-in-law no one and she


grandchildren no son no daughter-in-law no one and she was you know panicking very badly why because she's like um sir uh it started with sir it later turned into beta but uh she was like so um there's few things that are happening so they were living in the ground floor then there was uh an upper floor an upper floor has been lying abandoned for the last 30 years by the time we were investigating this case and she's like no there's few things happening up there and few things happening around the house as well the reason I'm calling you is because one of my grandchildren he was seeing one of her videos he got influenced by it and he went up to the abandoned floor trying to copy what you are doing so he took a camera not a camera he took some iPad or something and he was recording it and while you're recording he started hearing some kind of uh like a child's giggle or something like that and he got scared of course he knew that


and he got scared of course he knew that things are happening and he was trying to come back but when he was trying to come back he felt like something is following him and when he stopped and turned back to see what is following him he saw this dark Mass some eight nine feet uh tall just looking at him like like like you know caving him up and uh the next moment he see he feels like it is pushing him the grandchildren and he falls he falls down the stairs he breaks his head ahead as an injures himself and breaks the iPad and another family is panicked because one of them has been injured as of now the only experiences they had was and all those things were happening but nothing like this this is what we received on the call you know this is like the first step the second step is to go and do the interview or a preliminary investigation as we call it and interview is very important because that's what we get what are we trying to


because that's what we get what are we trying to investigate um so when we met the lady you know she's very fragile and everything and she had grandchildren all from the age of let's say 10 years old to some 20 in their 20s you know early 20s and there were at least five or six of them and uh when we entered the house this particular Vibe like we were talking about the vibe thing and considering for how many years we have been doing this uh the moment we enter a place we know the Vibes we know there's something wrong in this place or that place and that's how that's how we start off and we entered and there's this field but considering where I come from my background is science so even though I'm feeling thousands of things out there I cannot put them on the surface because that will manipulate my team's readings and their readings that I have on the devices so I have to be very straight and kind of discard every other thoughts and emotions


and kind of discard every other thoughts and emotions I'm going through irrespective I sat down and we were talking and the lady starts story that things are happening and meanwhile before I go to the story I noticed that there are four photographs on the wall with garlands on them and I just happened to ask who are they and she says uh two of them are my son the rest of them are their wife's daughter-in-law and I'm like also all four of them passed away um she's like yes and then she goes on to add that I think it is a spirit that is haunting the house that killed them and I'm like why do you say that you know so she said that all four of them died of uh um died of a death that is quite unexplainable they have no idea how they died as in they're all fine and suddenly all four of them felt sick and died that's it but what was the sickness they couldn't figure out they were getting treated about


they couldn't figure out they were getting treated about it and this this is I'm talking 2016. you know it's not like kovid or something like that it's quite old considering a bit 2023 hasn't they died in 2016 probably no no they died in the year 2015 or 14. we got to investigate in 2016 but the activities have been happening way before that um and uh I'm like yeah okay so by then I was with a TV crew and the TV crew are like you know their poor souls they have no idea what we're dealing with so they got like what the hell is this I'll figure out what she's trying to say you don't worry about it and I ask you know what are the things that are happening and she says that you know every uh night almost every night we see that there is this lady who is wearing a red saree um his work so if I go on to explain how the house was it was in The Colony uh and the


house was it was in The Colony uh and the house uh uh is right in front of the main road that leads to other houses of the colony so what she says is that she sees a lady not just her the neighbors see even the person who is living three buildings down also sees A lady wearing a white saree uh sorry red saree you know walking on the road entering their building going to the Terrace and jumping off everyone would see that and there was he she went on to explain that there was a time when they went on to check if there's actually a body or something but they found nothing and this thing keeps on happening you know keeps on happening someone would come the same lady she would enter the house everyone would see her entering the house even the grandchildren would see an apparition entering the house going to the Terrace and jumping off I'm like okay what else is happening then she goes on to explain so things are about to get more


on to explain so things are about to get more Weirdo And you know as the conversation continues she then goes on to say that there are times when she uh the window of a house would get hit by stones and Pebbles and like not 10 15 at a time and everyone to thought would think that you know some some guy is throwing some doing some Mischief or criminal activity whatever and they would go on to check no guy but that's not the weird part the weird part is there not be a single Stone but they would see the stone hitting the window the window is cracked right now but not a string single Stone out there second incident third incidence they say that when they go up they feel this heaviness which they cannot explain even though the house has been lying abandoned of course there are some things to consider if a house has been lying abandoned and there are dust and everything of course the atmospheric pressure is very high because there's no flow of energy happening but the


because there's no flow of energy happening but the lady is like you know que beta I have been alive for the last 70 years I have seen things but I've not experienced The Vibes that are happening up there then she goes on to say that the family that used to stay and uh who left and after that it has been lying abandoned they were having lunch and uh one fine day they just saw not just experience saw that one of the plates was snatched by some unseen Force they saw it flying that very night they packed up the next day they left the house and they never returned the lady was still in touch with them but they never returned and then the lady was like also uh beta I'm very concerned about my grandchildren uh you can see there you know they are very small and young they have a life ahead of course I can die I do not have a problem in that I have already lost my son my daughter-in-law I don't want to lose these kids


my daughter-in-law I don't want to lose these kids so you have to do something and as paranormal investigators our priorities are old people and cases which involve kids or infants or something like that because these spiritual sensitive they're sensitive and then it's like you know it's like how do I say they do not have any other way to go around they have already figured out you know that's in the ghosts don't have no no the client like the old lady here she has no other options she's very worried if we do not help her there is no one to help her in a way okay you know so that's why we have to prioritize them that why do you think the spirit didn't harm the grand mom and but harmed her children uh probably because yeah that's this is my view because the lady always meant retained this thing after they left the people were living out there is no one is going to go up there it is this just just one this grandkid who was very curious


just just one this grandkid who was very curious he didn't say to anything to her and he just went and started recording and that is when things happened okay until then they were just experiencing things from very third person point of view nothing happening with them they're just like chilled out and like he gets happening you know do you think the uh two sons who died and their wives would have gone up there at some point or something I never asked them but now that you're asking it could be a chance but there is also a chance that the lady the old lady with due respect is is so uh done and frustrated with the activities happening is now blaming their death uh to the spirits because see like I said from the very beginning my job is to debunk things and considering you do not know their health histories their mental histories or any kind of History we do have no idea and also we do not have any right to conclude that it is spirits that


any right to conclude that it is spirits that is doing it you know so whenever went on to investigate or ask more about it to her considering it's still an open wound and we really didn't want to you know do more digging and hurt her more so we're like let's do one let's focus on the present right now your grandkids are the priority are your concerned that's what we're going to deal with now I'm with my crew like I said and I went up Puja was not with me she was in Bombay and uh we went up and as a part of our investigation no matter wherever we are going the first thing is a psychic reading after the prelim and that's the part of the initial investigation that we do the preliminary that we do the part is to check out the house uh as in figure out if there is any broken wall there's broken ceiling broken floor or something like that so that when we enter at night uh or when there is no enough light


at night uh or when there is no enough light we should be aware that that place has a crack we shouldn't be moving with all the weights and everything so what I do is I go up with my crew and the crew is taking all the b-rolls and shots for the episode that they're trying to create and I click a photograph and I send it to Puja and I'm like Puja I need readings right now because there are a lot of things that are happening and you know how it happens and this is the most fascinating part the psychics are not shared any information about the place they have no idea about the case I'm going to deal with they have no idea what the place is what is the case how many people involved what kind of building it is it's an apartment Mansion Bungalow whatever no idea they just shared a photograph you receive the photograph now give a reading because if I share the information like I said the human mind is so um I mean I can go


human mind is so um I mean I can go on to say a lot of things about the human mind it can actually manipulate the psychic readings as well you know who knows that the psyching is psychic is just playing around the words we are giving them so none of the information I shared and Puja takes 5-10 minutes and she gives a call back and the first thing is serba I think you should be um you should be ready for what's coming in let's take it like a warning I'm like why you know and if he goes on to say that she is feeling very choky and uh she feels like there was a lady who was there who was uh kind of abused um physically abused actually and uh she was uh the the she according to according to Puja there is a rope around her neck and she's being dragged using that rope and she is being dragged out of the house and is being dumped under a tree there should be a tree sarbajit and


a tree there should be a tree sarbajit and I'm like the client didn't mention of any tree she's like I'm very sure there's a tree that is where everything is happening you have to be you have to check that out and you have to be ready for what's coming in because this Spirit she's very agitated she's very angry she's very frustrated with what has happened to her and the amount of time she has spent stuck here you have to be ready so the first thing we have to do is because psyche is saying there has to be something you know there is another experience if you are final share after this to confirm how the psychics and we all work so I go down to the client and I'm like is there a tree nearby and the lady goes on to say uh you know better I'm like you didn't mention that my psychic is mentioning that she's like no no there is a tree there is a tree where we saw the lady come out that is


where we saw the lady come out that is the tree where it all begins and we go out of the house there's a huge tree just standing out there and I send a photograph to Puja again asking is it the tree it's like yes this is where she is buried and uh all of those bad things that she went through happened in that flow that you were there so please be ready to what's coming in and you know people do uh call me psychopath for it because when I hear something like that from my psychic that you have to be ready for what's coming in I become like a small kid because I'm all excited I'm like let's see what's happening now because see at the end of the day we are researchers and investigators who are trying to gather evidence of the Paranormal and if a situation like this is coming up where the spirit is actually trying to show itself just to and as a return we are capturing things not just from a Content point of view


capturing things not just from a Content point of view but just for the sake of research imagine what all we can do also because I know that nothing can harm me considering what I do before going for an investigation which is meditation so I uh you know so if you notice I don't know if you notice we have no tabij or anything like that you know that we wear with all due respect to tabies and everything of course we do not have because one thing that we have is the belief in our self and the faith in the positivity that whatever is out there call it God Masters or whatever we are calling them goddess goddesses ascended masters they are all protecting us that's the belief we go through and that belief is very strong very strong that's how we deal with any negativity you know you know when I was starting this podcast I felt yeah some kind of female higher energy yeah yeah that's why I asked you if my parents too worship durgama that I didn't followers and


too worship durgama that I didn't followers and worshipers and uh yeah there's a long history to that it was almost as if she wished me luck okay so see this is the connect that we have is the is also the belief that I have to these Masters you know and uh that's why when we go to a location I know that I'm in control here and that's why I have survived for the last 10 years and I know I'm going to survive Forest of the year so she's in control here yes and she is controlling the negativity and the positivity and she knows that nothing negative should come to these people you know so I'm all excited Puja is like you know you have to be ready and everything I'm like yeah let's do it let's do it so uh you know we were all set and the crew had gotten to some other cases uh so we're like let's not wait for night night also there's a very common common misconception that uh why do paranormal


common common misconception that uh why do paranormal investigators always go out to investigate at night you know you'll see all those memes and all floating and there is no such reason out there the only reason we go out at night is because the environment is very peaceful the less people less Vehicles less crowd less horns and Papa and everything that's why we go in otherwise we have investigated places at even 6 a.m in the morning just to check out two to debunk this thing that why only at night so it was around 6 PM 7 p.m and uh in in orisa or uh in the eastern part the sunsets very fast as compared to here in Mumbai so by 6 6 30 it's already dark and we were like you know take even the night visions cameras are on the devices are on I'm all set let's go in and get this done so what we do is something that is called as paranormal lockdown it's a very serious and dangerous thing but um I'm sure no one


and dangerous thing but um I'm sure no one in India does that apart from me and my team and where what we do is we kind of basically lock ourselves in in the house and the lock and the key is the lock is there the keys with some crew member is sitting outside they're not with us so we are all stuck whatever is happening happening we have to deal with so that's what we do we also did the same with this case we asked one of the crew guys please do lock us and go and sit in the car and let us do our shop and uh we already have the psychic readings we already have everything ready and uh to go on to explain how the room is so that you can also understand because uh there would be certain things that I'll be explaining so the moment you enter from the main door there is a hallway to your extreme right is the washroom on your extreme uh rights right top corner will be the kitchen beside the kitchen


top corner will be the kitchen beside the kitchen will be one of the bedrooms and again beside the room will be another bedroom so two bedrooms one Hall kitchen and bathroom that was a structure and we enter and it's all abandoned of course we saw and everything and uh when we enter so of course there's no light there's no electricity by default so we were like okay we would be using the night vision cameras and the Torches that we have and while we're entering we just marked that there is a stone on one of the slabs that is out there there's a huge Stone must be around a ton or something like that they're just kept there probably because it has fallen from somewhere so the people the people are living down there because they also have to take care of the the Upper Floor properties they have called someone to pick that up or something like that we assumed it and we were like okay it's out there and it's safely kept you know nothing like that two we are


kept you know nothing like that two we are just walking and uh we reach the first bedroom and I just turn we say this teddy bear lying and I call that the animal of India you know and we'll see why the animal of India we enter and I find this door lying around and I'm with my device a device that measures EMF electromagnetic field and we are trying to figure out if there is any base reading so generally the EMF has five lights the one of the devices that we use and generally the first light is always on because that's really giving us a base reading but there are certain places certain houses certain properties where the base reading goes on to two or three now how do we know it's not paranormal but uh something very scientific is the lights will not fluctuate they'll be like that because the flow of electricity is same no it's not changing so three lights are two lights the base heading would be there but in this case we already only had one light so


in this case we already only had one light so we're like okay there is no manipulation of any kind of electricity happening and we move on move on move on and uh I'm like you know let's start this communication so what we do is basically we try to establish a communication with whatever the entity is whoever the entity is because that's like the first stage of understanding them talking I have to ask them who are you why are you here how long have you have you been um did you die of this did you die of that uh are you male female whatever the questions are so I just did you all dig up the body at this point no no this is Puja said that this case happened at least 80 60 60 to 80 years back and from back then only things have been happening so of course we never tried of course no one is going to believe us apart from the client that has called us yeah okay um for all the obvious reasons we have uh in the country


the obvious reasons we have uh in the country but uh we went on and we start up with a very basic question is there anyone with us who would like to communicate with us because uh we have been getting complaints that you are disturbing the piece of those who are living uh in the under the ground floor and that you have also heard one of their grandchildren is that true first 5-10 minutes usually nothing happens you know it's like and that's why it's a way it's a job that requires utmost patience you have to sit for like four or five hours just to get one reply or two reply that's how it works why do you think that is because the entities uh for example you know just before we started the podcast you needed some energy so you had something right same way for the spirits as well they need energy to manifest they cannot be just like at a point and do something like that uh also there is a lot of research to it we have figured out that uh the


research to it we have figured out that uh the EMF hotspots or the uh how do I say the EMF especially in southern Asia or uh especially this belt is very low as compared to that in the Europe and in the USA that's why the activities that happen in USA or Europe is very very severe and aggressive as compared to those which happen in India because they get a lot of energy and EMF is that energy so you mean ghosts feed off of spirits or demons feed off EMF yeah EMF is one of those things there's more there's more they also can feed off the EMF that we are radiating we have an aura Aura is nothing but our magnetic field the body's magnetic field so that's why we go to certain places and we start feeling drained suddenly because some energy it can be a human being as well what we call as energy vampires can we are sucking out all the energies out of you so you'll see that that person is very active but


so you'll see that that person is very active but you are like dude connection you know that is one of those sources another sources are batteries that we use in cameras that's why when we go on to investigation there will be five batteries which are supposed to run let's say each battery runs for 40 minutes for example let's say you know 200 minutes they will go they will drain out in 60 minutes all of them so they're taking the energy to manifest and if they do not get that energy they manifest in ways that is not complete uh so let's say you know I this is a bit off topic but let's say spirit is trying to manifest but it is not getting enough energy so what happens is only uh the head has manifested or only the hand has manifested so what we did um in India is that we took that concept and we added blood to it and uh we showed them in purifies that you know the entities which are moving without head without hands is basically entities which


are moving without head without hands is basically entities which are not able to manifest themselves of course it's very horrifying when we see with blood and everything considering what we did back then but this is actually the real reason is that the entity is not able to manifest itself completely this it needs energy to manifest you're saying you can actually see something then without a head yeah you do you can actually but again in India it's super difficult considering we know geographical it's impossible that's why you we use certain energies uh certain devices to give them EMF to help the spirits you know take it and manifest sometimes we also offer our phones you know during the phone's battery and manifest but isn't it dangerous to give them energy of course it is of course it is but let's say uh when when it comes to a case like this where the OLED is looking for answer looking for a closure we have to put ourselves to that risk because we need answers you know and that's why it's


we need answers you know and that's why it's important and that's why the job is what it is and maybe through that communication with the spirit you're also calming it down and giving it closure in order to leave yes that's that's the final part of the investigation because at the end of the day we are trying to help The Souls of both the worlds yeah the living and the dead of course because even though the entity right now the case I'm talking about is very frustrated and agitated but there's a reason behind it she's not agitated because she just wants to she has gone through something that gives her the right to be frustrated out there and of course she has been through such a terrible terrible act she has been killed so brutally no one deserves that and she's just trying to make others feed what she went through that's what Spirits do so when you are at a place and you suddenly start feeling emotional like crying and all it could be just an


like crying and all it could be just an entity trying to make you feel that you know I'm very sad so it's just reflecting and you are just absorbing it and you are doing it you know and a very common example I keep on giving so you know that's that's what I do mainly is I try to give real life examples to make people understand that it also happens to you just that you are not terming it as paranormal you know when we are with our best friends and all and the best friend is very happy we are automatically happy even though we do not have a reason as such personal reason the only reason is my best friend is happy but if the best friend is sad or depressed you'll see automatically your energy is also going down your mood goes off so we can just conclude that whatever energy they are radiating we are also absorbing it we are also getting affected by that energy same goes for the spirits so when we are trying to communicate with them


so when we are trying to communicate with them that at the end of the day we are also trying to counsel them trying to ease them you know we understand what you're going through and we are the only people who can understand there will be no one else because the rest of them will be only getting scared this is also one of our methods of bringing them or making them comfortable to talk to us so even the spirits are also scared of human beings you know so you have to make them friendly you know you don't have to worry so the way I investigate is very they see if I say I go on to talk in ways which I'll do with you or with one of my friends or something like that you know if if I may um friendly manner because understand they have they are stuck there for seven to eight years they have to understand you are friendly and you're not some guy who's again trying to hurt them so for here also we did the same thing it was


for here also we did the same thing it was very calm and everything but you know as because we have been doing this for so many years now our senses are always in the in they're always active you know so we notice small things very minor things and there we are always noticing it can be that there is like you are playing with your fingers or that or something like that but uh so I noticed that one of my crew guys he I just hope they're all fine outside so one of my crew guys uh um he was uh coughing you know and initially I thought probably because there's a lot of dust out there and he's you know sensitive that's why he's some people get infected very fast to dust and all that's what he's doing and it kept on ignoring ignoring ignoring ignoring ignoring and I'm trying to establish a communication there's no reply there's no reply and then I am coming to a point where the teddy bear was there and um I sit down and I'm


bear was there and um I sit down and I'm like is this yours not asking the crew I'm asking talking the space directly that looks very funny that I'm just talking to a wall but that's how it goes so I'm like is this yours and the moment I asked this question for the last 15 minutes nothing was happening and suddenly we get a reply on the device the more you ask is this yours there's a reply I'm like oh this is yours so this is there's a beep on the device no there are lights actually there are multiple devices we use as of now we are using a device that will just show lights okay so I have to keep it like this so that I can see from a peripheral that okay it blinked you know it just blinks and uh so that happened and I'm like oh so this is yours and again it blinks and by now I am at the point where I'm like you know I have to do something to establish the communication because


I have to do something to establish the communication because it's not going anywhere it's just it's been 45 minutes now the last 15 minutes only I'm getting these two responses I have to do something and I said you know that if uh if you do not come to talk to me or communicate with me I'm going to take this doll back home with me you know this is mine from now on by this time my crew guy is on the ground coughing and saying that I'm feeling chokey here exactly what Pooja shared I never shared the psychic reading with them because I know they'll get scared the psychic reading only I knew and I was going to use it for my investigation he's like you know I'm feeling very chokier so now when it comes to the crew of course like I said those are poor guys they have no idea what we are dealing with they have to just record shoot audio clearly and they're done with the job so when he got affected so badly I


the job so when he got affected so badly I am like no this is going somewhere that there's no intention to so I have to kind of Step Up not only from from the point of how I'm trying to communicate but also from the energy point if you like you give this energy boost to yourself to make yourself look bigger and more powerful that's what I did I'm like you have no freaking right to affect my crew member like you did right now you want to do something with you want to affect someone trying to harm someone do it with me so I'm holding that door and it's through the door just to disrespect the spirit which is totally not recommended but I had to do something to move his attention towards me because I got the idea that I'm all protected I'm all meditative and everything but these people do not meditate they do not have that thing to protect themselves so it's targeting them and I'm like you want to do something do it with me and on


want to do something do it with me and on camera I'm throwing the doll to a particular corner and I'm like it's a very it may look like a like my ego is hurt but all I'm trying to do is just provoke it so what we call is uh we are trying to trigger it that's a term what is the relationship of the spirit with the doll it's just attached or probably it was its doll or so how it happens is for example is why I also mentioned about the animal of India or Annabelle for that matter or other objects that are very popularly said to be haunted is because there are certain kind of energies attached to them now that object may not necessarily be theirs but they're just affected by it they're just they just have this affection towards the object and if they like it they will stay around it you do what anything with them and it's like you know for example your mobile phone your cell phone it's yours right so if someone random comes in and


yours right so if someone random comes in and plays with it you'll be not happy about it you'll be like this is mine what if you send it to another country will the spirit follow the object yes it will it will there is there is no Dimension there is no time there is no space in the spiritual world that's what we have got to know because uh there have been times where we have investigated two different places in two different longitude latitudes of the country and the spirits uh let's say let's say we investigated this house in bhubaneshwar then we are going to Rajasthan to investigate one place that Spirit even before we have entered knows who we are and right now we know that they have this community Spirit Community where they also talk about things so right now we are talking about them they know that we are talking about them yeah Goosebumps and just a little [ __ ] in my pants no no I'm kidding go on so we left it all as it is and we entered


we left it all as it is and we entered another room and we are discussing what should we do more because by now what is happening is there are sounds happening on the Terrace and it completely feels like someone is running you know thumpings and all those things and happening and we know it's happening but for some reason we are apprehensive of should we go and check or do we just know that it is a spirit doing because by now I have already triggered it but I'm like no this is we have to cross check here how can we just let it to the spirit directly so I asked one of my crew guys go and check no if there is some some children some kid going and running there could be someone randomly who knows and the crew guy uh guy goes up and he is standing in front of the Terrace and he says that um sir I am seeing the Terrace I'm hearing the sound but there's no one in front of me analog you


there's no one in front of me analog you can go down now it's confirmed with the spirit so I just I say to the spirit what are you doing up come down now we'll have a chat and we'll talk about you I know what you have been through Puja told me about you let's have a talk let's have a conversation that's how we can understand each other and maybe I can help you out let's do this again nothing is happening so I asked the those things are happening the constant thumping and all so we asked the camera guy just go and see you know if you can take some shots and all by the time I understand what is my next step now this guy is standing right in front of the kitchen like I mentioned as you enter and he's taking some shot now that guy is uh he's right now 39 so back then he must be around what mid 30s or early 30s and um he's taking some shots within five minutes he starts shouting mummy


some shots within five minutes he starts shouting mummy mummy now when uh 30 35 years old guy starts shouting Mommy I mean you know there's something wrong so we go on and I'll not lie I've been to a lot of cases I've investigated a lot of cases seen things which people haven't seen and for the first time I saw something and I kind of freaked out like for two seconds I'm like what the hell is this I saw that guy's leg is bent in and he's like being pulled like someone is pulling him and he's trying very hard trying to hold the frame of the door not trying to be pulled in and is like sarbaji there's someone pulling me I'm like faltu and I'm saying I'm seeing that but my first action is that's falthu you are overreacting or something stuck uh some wire some invisible wire some pipe is there because a kitchen there could be anything that's wrong so others remember pull him out and it's like there was someone


remember pull him out and it's like there was someone pulling me inside I'm like that's impossible don't try to scare everyone else right here we're trying to get a good episode trying to help out the family let's focus on that my instant reaction is I'll never believe instantly until unless I investigate on it and I'm like there's some wire and all so I go on to see there is not a single wire single pipeline or anything like that that could you know let his leg Bend like that and make us feel or make us see like something is pulling that leg very particular leg and when I saw there is nothing and I'm like you know if the spirit is manifesting so intensely there should be something on your leg because I saw it bent other crew members saw it went you know it was bent let's lift your pants and lift his pants there are five complete fingerprints on his leg like it is burnt five dark fingerprints on his leg and by the time the crew is messed


his leg and by the time the crew is messed up uh you know apart from me because I'm very excited because what just happened but I can also understand where they come from and they were like you know I think we should quit the show and we should leave I'm like are you guys crazy we're trying to help a person you know I don't care so much about the show then what I care about the client I have to help out the client so we all are staying no one is going anywhere as all of these things are happening there's again a loud third now remember that there is not a single light source apart from the Torches that we have which are also not very powerful because they can fall on the lens and create something which can be called paranormal so we do not use there's a loud loud loud noise of something falling and it felt like it felt somewhere very close and I'm like what is this noise and I was like yeah what is that noise what


and I was like yeah what is that noise what is that noise and they tried to figure out remember that big block of rock that was kept it's now on the floor there's no way someone could touch it or push it because we all are engaged in this thing and there are only four people me the one camera guy two camera guy one sound guy that's it no one else and we are locked in now there's something that was trying to make its presence felt so so bad that it is now affecting the crew I'm like no this is going somewhere else that I do not want let's do one thing let's go to that one room and sit and just observe what is happening because by now the entire room feels like a tornado there are things happening everywhere cupboards are opening on their own their sounds happening up there whereas through the doll apart from that room every other room is happening something or the other and everyone is freaked out because something very danger just


everyone is freaked out because something very danger just happened to one of the crew guys I'm like let's do one thing let's shut off all the lights all the cameras let's just keep one night vision camera away from us all the devices let's shut them down and respectfully let's try to interact with the spirit because see I may be all triggering and all you know whatever I'm trying to be my crew cannot go through that and I have to understand that otherwise what kind of leader I am in that team so I'm like we will not trigger more but we'll sit down and we'll try to bring in the spirit to talk to us we have to contact and as we're talking we start the communication with just one device that is close to the night vision camera we are not holding them anymore and I start asking the question are you here because you have been stuck here for the last 50 60 years as shared by my sidekick are you the same lady yes I got a reply so


you the same lady yes I got a reply so basically I have I can give them command that if it is yes you can give me two likes if it is no you can give me three or four and I can also interchange just to make sure that it is not coming from some electrical source so I'm getting responses and I ask that you know I I know whatever happened to you is very bad but you also have to understand that these people who are staying on the ground floor they have no hands in whatever you want to you understand that it said yes but still you want to stay here it said no but if no then are you stuck here she says yes do you want to leave yes now bye all these things are happening if I want to explain how we were sitting I'm sitting right in front of the door behind me is one of the camera guys the sound guy and behind him is another camera guy sitting next to a cupboard uh and as we are


next to a cupboard uh and as we are communicating there's a noise coming from the cupboard you know and I'm like where's this noise again coming from and uh we open there is nothing inside the cupboard then we close it and again we continue with the communication communication is going on and by now the night vision thing has captured this guy who is sitting next to the cupboard which is now you know partially open because of what we did he is reacting to something like this sorry and uh I have no idea what is happening because I'm constantly in the mood of communication everything and the communication has been established I know that the entity is now ready to leave it's ready to understand that it has to leave the physical world to go to the spiritual world and it has to be done some way or the other in other various ways of helping them out I'll just say what is that but before I go on to that the man who reacted seeing something we have no idea because we


who reacted seeing something we have no idea because we are sitting all summer and uh when we and I know I'm being a bit haphazard right now because you need that context to understand is when we go to the editing table and we uh the editors are seeing and uh they are like you know what are you reacting to that guy and he's like no I felt like someone came out of the cupboard something some operation and we were like what [ __ ] we felt nothing we saw nothing everything was happening right in front of us then when we are going frame by frame quite literally frame by frame we see this white color you know disembodied thing coming out of the cupboard and in three frames it's invisible and that is what this man sees we have no idea you know do you still have the footage it's with the TV crew guys but they did play it on live uh World episode ad and people did saw and there's nowhere to debunk it nobody debunk it because many


to debunk it nobody debunk it because many would say that it is a reflection coming from outside but we have to understand that what the camera we are using is a night vision camera in night vision cameras the the sensors are not similar to that of the normal dslrs or normal video cameras because there's one particular light the night vision camera is using and that is called the infrared uh LEDs to see things which are visible in dark no reflection nothing like that and of course you know I will notice if there's a reflection there is nothing like that now cut back to the communication part you know and I I was in the expectation that considering the things that were happening and everything I'd have to be very very uh you know uh powerful and Vigilant and uh persuasive to make that Spirit go but you know the only thing that worked to help the spirit I just made her realize that she's dead I just asked her do you know you are dead you do not belong to this


know you are dead you do not belong to this place now generally this question will trigger a variety of response sometimes the spirit will be very happy you're like okay I'm dead I'm free I can move on now sometimes people like how can you say that I'm dead it's like you know if you call a living person you're dead the reaction will get because they do not know they are dead when uh I just I just happen to ask this question and as a crew guys just be ready because this is the final Dent that you might face something when I said that you know the you know do you know you're dead and that you don't belong to this place suddenly everything felt you know silent dead silent no response on the devices the thumping all stopped everything felt silent there's nothing apart from the breathing noise is coming from my crew everything felt silent and I had a gut feeling you know she's gone she's not there anymore but we had to you know gather all the devices and all


had to you know gather all the devices and all and uh we went to all the rooms to figure out if we have left anything now remember that doll lights due to that one particular corner it was captured live on camera when I entered the dollar was back in its original position none of us went back to that room because they're always around me because of how [ __ ] scared they were the dollar was back to its original position and uh the doll was the reason everything began for me in my communication and that is where it ended because we didn't touch it we didn't uh carried with us because back then we were not collecting things now we do but uh yeah and then few weeks later we uh we kind of you know called back to the client to figure if things are still happening and you know if more things are needed or not and uh she was very happy that there's no noises no ladies being seen and a new tenant is ready to move in which the place which has been


ready to move in which the place which has been lying abandoned for 30 years someone is trying to move in now what happened to the doll I have no idea I asked the old lady you know do you know who's the doll it if it is one of your grandkids uh she's like no none of my grandkids they're all boys they don't play with teddy bears they she also happened to call the previous tenants and they were like no we had no small kid uh so we do not know who's the doll is but I have even no idea where the doll went but considering uh we uh kind of helped us Spirit or the lady uh I don't think the doll was possessed anymore so it's like any other non-living thing and also to add more to the fact that you know an EMF is being radiated from a doll that has no batteries no wire just that cotton thingy synthetic cotton was weird even for me I'm like how is this possible there's nothing


me I'm like how is this possible there's nothing physics physics is explaining right now uh with this doll but why did you feel like this was the scariest case because of just all this physical interaction that also happened uh a scariest case is because For the first time in my life I saw an inanimate animate object being possessed in a way there is an attachment to it and also that Spirits could of course we have done our research and we know to what extent Spirits can go but to see it happen right in front of you is a different experience you know like the chat we had when you were standing out in that haunted location and you are like the bridge between the living and the dead you're experiencing two Dimensions two frequency Simoni and when I saw that it was more than scariest it was I think it is very exciting moment you know exciting in a way that it becomes very spooky and all if I'm making any sense one opportunity I found while talking to


any sense one opportunity I found while talking to you is that you have so many tangents you go on which is an outcome of a lot of experience dude yeah like this is something you think about a lot also we have to you know uh ranveer why because at the end of the day if I just go on to say to that old lady you know what um there's nothing haunting your house it's all fine I'm putting a life in danger also if there is nothing and I still go on and say that you do not have to worry it's all fine I'm again putting her life in danger because she will go on to find other ways that may harm her in some other ways so I I uh from uh and also my team we are very very careful in using the word the word haunted you know because considering the effect it has on people in India it can actually damage a person somewhere or the other why if I just happen to say right now you know that's a


happen to say right now you know that's a hypothetical situation that run with this place is haunted so either you'll ask me or you'll ask some of your friends to figure it out you know and because I've already planted that thought in you you'll do everything to make sure it is not haunted and even though you know it's not haunted but that's how the human mind is you're going to spend lacks and lags on things to put things get things done and at the end of the day there is nothing do you feel you carry these energies with you after cases no we don't uh because we kind of make sure and that's where our meditation our practice comes in and our experiences also comes in by that time we do carry those emotions with us because sometimes some places we have been through the uh the case is very emotional because of what the spirit went through for example this one the poor soul who died so brutally and everything those emotions we do carry those memories but


everything those emotions we do carry those memories but never a spirit because or an entity or their energy because of the meditation practice that we have and that's why it's very important for what we do but have you felt it coming home with you and then the meditation washes It Off not yet but what has happened is even before we have been to a place those Spirits like I said they already know that we are talking about them some places even before we have been there to investigate those pets do come to our place really yeah and it has happened multiple times so we have four cats Korea and I we have four cats one of them Coco he's super sensitive to spirits and he will know if there's a spirit around animals animals are anyway very sensitive and there was one time they were about to investigate this one property and the property had all the things and everything the psychics had all the readings ready and they were about to go to investigate that place two weeks later two


to go to investigate that place two weeks later two psychics were facing the same thing Savio my guy Puja both living kilometers apart are facing the same thing what everyone's electrical appliances are fluctuating at the same time how can that be a coincidence okay fluctuating voltage fluctuation you know uh fluctuating okay there could be some reason rotating the same time how is it possible that is when they both connected and by now they have no idea things are happening it is only after the day later Puja texts Savio you know what what happened at my place has like uh seriously what the [ __ ] something has happened to my place this is a get to know but we make sure that nothing is following us because if there's a case there would be someone here right now with us but we make sure do you want to talk about the kind of meditation you do do you pray directly do you uh so yeah sure um I've never talked about it actually but uh


um I've never talked about it actually but uh what we do is more like uh breathing meditations um that's the most basic one that I do um and then beyond that what I do is kind of I don't know if you know and then as of now there's so many modules of meditation so what we have designed uh like me personally is what I call that white light meditation and Golden Light meditation considering we know how powerful those spectrum of lights are a white golden Violet this is visualization based yes meditation visualize that your body is filling in white light golden light or any other colored light yeah as if a glass is being filled up with water predict you take the lighten through the top of it yeah from the crown to the Earth star chakra um that's the eight chakra that we have Nietzsche and uh we kind of cleanse ourselves too because as human beings we also have our ups and downs and if we are down no matter what is the cause it could be


down no matter what is the cause it could be any cause a family thing or something like that we cannot investigate a place we cannot go and investigate a place if energy we are down so we make sure that we are not so I don't drink I don't smoke Pooja doesn't drink doesn't smoke because we are very sure that anything that is bringing down your Consciousness is making you vulnerable to get affected by not just human beings but also spirits so we make sure no drinking smoking or whoever does it in our team we make sure two days before investigation you are not drawing drinking you're not smoking keep your body clean yes clean and just meditate that's what you do wow and you've seen this happen where someone who's a drinker oh yeah yeah yeah it happened in matheran one of our guys he is not with us right now he has some personal you know work to carry out right now thank God then he's getting married okay so uh we went to Matra to


getting married okay so uh we went to Matra to investigate this church uh have you been to matheran right yeah uh have you felt anything different when you enter matheran very long ago but I definitely felt a sense of isolation that this place is isolated not just because it's that far up and you could take those horses and go yeah but there's just some deeper layer of isolation yes like maybe it's spiritually isolated or something dude I don't know what it is it's very true because the moment we went for the first time to Matra and we entered and we're like we we came somewhere something this is something else The Vibes are also different I think when you go now whenever you go I think you feel it more strongly yeah I was a kid that time yeah but I know what you mean and it's also someone was beautiful Forest Pathways yes anywhere in India that's all I remember that yeah beautiful Forest but deep level of isolation I felt like I was just with my friends


isolation I felt like I was just with my friends correct and very cut away from family very cut away from society it's very different very very um the wife's a very different AI from matheran I think they it's uh one of our favorite places but uh just to give you a brief of what happened to one of our excrew guys he was with us and we're investigating this church and uh Puja and savior found something in one of the spot and they were digging quite literally because they felt there's something underground that they have to figure out and I'm like what are you going to get it's like it's been so many years so I'm being that skeptic skeptic you know I'm like and I'm a guy who will be skeptic in the beginning but uh when I start seeing things start proving things I'll so I'm always open like that but in the first action I'm like what will you get there there's no point because it's been so many years that church has


point because it's been so many years that church has been like abandoned like for 400 years now and the boys are like no there is there was a murder that was committed here and something like that and the uh one of our guys he was recording and when they were digging he I I could like I said I'm noticing everything that is happening right now I noticed that uh this guy is doing something like you know he's like very very discomfort uh and I'm asking Shiva you're all fine because of course you know when you go to mother to see those rickshaws or horse and not everyone has that experience to sit on those things so it can act uh on your body show on your body and I'm like are you fine he's like yeah I'm fine I'm like okay and then uh so as I'm asking they are stopping the digging Wala part and they are listening to him what he's saying and I'm like yeah you guys please continue then they again started digging and again


please continue then they again started digging and again I'm saying he's reacting to something and I'm like are you sure I find he's like I I think I'm I'm tired that's what it is like he was moving he's moving he's moving his shoulders and all like his back is aching or something like that so the third time they went on to dig he is like shouting now in pain and he's like Serbia I I cannot handle this pain it's aching right now I'm like what that happened you're all fine like two minutes back he knows something is happening right now so that is when you know like I said people do call me my team calls me psychopath because of my methods because I always take that next step to get the answers I kind of figured out that it's something to do with the digging so I asked Puja and Savio continue taking the start digging he starts reacting again more I'm like stop and he's fine under dig again and he's again reacting so


fine under dig again and he's again reacting so I'm like you know there is something that is doing something to you and is like you know I'm feeling this burning sensation here so he was wearing this hoodie which has no chain you have to like completely remove the hoodie to figure out so somewhere or the other we had to lift and we saw this scratch mark on his back that is what he was reacting to and uh he has been holding the camera all this while there's no way he can put his hand and do that so that happened and I'm like you know what it happened to you because I've been triggering these both are digging and we know the place the history and the psychic reading right affected you and it happened did you smoke now like how did you know I'm like dude the spirit told me right now with your body's reaction and like yeah I did because I was feeling very tired and all so I had to do that to get that boost


so I had to do that to get that boost of energy like you saw it and the same guy got affected when we went to Roha Fort and catch same thing he had he he got affected the weakest Aura gets affected it does it always does and I'm glad he's working on that now but uh he got pulled by a spirit in rohafort and Kutch and uh after five minutes I happened to be with him and ask uh were you smoking right before coming for an investigation told me so we have seen that happening yes what's the worst harm you've seen a spirit do on a human I have seen my personal experience yours or you know if you've seen it in someone else you know crewing uh okay so uh the damages can vary from um vary from point of views in a way as in uh there can be physical damages or there could be damages in terms of relationship or financial things really yeah because see you have to understand at the end of the day their


have to understand at the end of the day their energies were editing some kind of Aura right some kind of that explains my last breakup so uh you have mother there has to be of course it's not always the same but right now I I just hope anyone who's listening shouldn't be blaming the spirits for their financial downfall or something like that for the breakup I still blame her I told you you shouldn't have done that I'm kidding so yeah so you know what what you just bought in actually those things do happen we have seen that we have seen uh people getting destroyed because of that very thing uh no one would like to see their financial Kingdom all going to dust and everything that is one way another way what we have seen is these physical harms that they do but one thing I like to eat make it very very clear There Is No Death involved it can be you know people not many will be taking this with a very open mind and the reason I say this


a very open mind and the reason I say this is because the only reason that kills when it comes to Paranormal Activity is not the spirit it is a fear that kills us and it's the case for everywhere is the fear that triggers that response and we take certain steps that kills us I'll give one small example where we're investigating this case somewhere in Kolkata I think and I'll just keep it keep it very brief why because there's nothing much to it we got a call from one of our family friends if something is happening and uh we got the psychics and uh photos we got from them and we were like you know if you psychics please give us a reading and let us know what we can do the psychics gave a reading that um so why the family friend called because from the fourth floor of their building not an apartment they had they own the entire property um a man fell fell down and he cracked his skull and he died right on the road and that's


and he died right on the road and that's why they're worried that his Spirit might be hunting or something like that and we got the photos and everything so the psychics they saw that there is a spirit which was just trying to come close to the man the man was drunk and he got scared of the spirit approaching him and he started taking steps back he toppled and he fell and he died using when you're drunk or stoned you can actually see spirits you know it's it's a funny question because how do we conclude that what they are seeing is not an effect of what they have put in their system okay there's no way to conclude that I'm from a part of Bombay called vadala where we have a bunch of Gardens and one of those Gardens is called Booth Garden okay and the Lord the urban legend was that only when you smoke weed and if you go there you can see the ghost I know but then that's what it is you know we uh


but then that's what it is you know we uh and uh like I said there is no way to conclude okay tomorrow you might wake up and you must be thinking like the guy who was high or something like that did I really say something there's no way to conclude so that's why and somewhere or the other it can also trigger a response that where they're seeing because they're exposing themselves to those energies there's no protective shield the your own Aura is gone for that particular period and now if you're in this spiritual world can see you is where also leads a lot of cases where attachment happens because Spirit gets attached to a person two person yeah it comes from a point where you are low on vibration or energy it can be when you are depressed in your life or when you are uh down because of alcohol or something my journey began when I was almost depressed in my when I was 15 16 because of my fear of the unknown and paranormal so when they're


of the unknown and paranormal so when they're saying that uh when you're depressed you take a step back from the society that's when the spiritual World sees you now the spiritual World spiritual word not the meditation World Spirits a world sees you and that's why we have a lot of people uh um like my partner Puja my partner Savio they all have had other episodes with phases of life where they have been hit really really low and that's where they have come up with becoming researchers and all because when you go down that path despite see you and they're like okay he's a guy who is not in contact with others maybe he'll be in touch with us that's why it also leads what is it like from their perspective when they're looking at human beings if someone's aura is weak in the human world because of substance abuse or because of not being in the correct state of mind we become a low energy Aura that's when you become more visible to them that's


that's when you become more visible to them that's what you're saying yes and then parallely if you meditate a lot if you pray a lot if you have very strong belief Faith then to you become visible to them yes so in in both cases there are two different uh ways they are seeing you when you are meditating and you are doing all kinds of uh things to Empire Empower your soul basically you are in control of that situation when they are there so when they will haunt you they know who they're messing up with so they'll not take that extra step to harm you because they know this guy is all shielded and protected by things we cannot see but when it's the other side they will try and deliberately contact and make things to happen so that the person agencies okay [ __ ] there's something so there are two ways to see that for example considering I know that you meditate and everything if you happen to go to a haunted place the spirit will think


to go to a haunted place the spirit will think twice before harming you you might sense that it is trying to do something but it will not do anything harmful but if some other guy who is not meditating could be in low state of whatever XYZ reason he could still be experiencing things but in a very aggressive way and things and in a way uh uh just a control capacity you know in that way okay like the power will be in the hands of the spirit yes ultimately that is there but that's what we teach when we take this workshop and everything that you have to be in a place where you're where you are in control and not just in your life but also in the spiritual world for that matter because if you're not in control that is where the fear comes in and of course certain fear is required that's your body's response to protect yourself from certain danger but let not the fear control you same when it goes to substance abuse or substance abuse is


goes to substance abuse or substance abuse is a very far-fetched thing yeah substance usage yeah not just substance but I'm coming to a point of smoking and drinking particularly these two things let not those two things control you you know drink if you want to suppose there's a party and once in a month you are there with a friend's drink it's fine but don't let be an alcoholic don't be a chain smoker or something like that where something is controlling you so you know there's a saying that nothing can possess you if you're self-possessed um so if you are already self-possessed like the people who meditate there already was so much energy you are already self-possessed dude what else can possess us but for someone who has that Gap within themselves which they are filling up by using substances or alcohol there's already a gap the spirits know that the demons know that and they'll try to fill in that game so many more questions this was just an introduction to


so many more questions this was just an introduction to paranormal investigation on the show you're probably almost experienced guest in this domain thank you and after every single paranormal episode we are done your name would always come up okay that just wait till he comes on the show okay that was uh what was said to us I'm glad that having this conversation uh rather than going deeper on this one I'm going to head into the next one sure uh just if this particular episode was too heavy for some listeners and I feel like it may happen it may have been yeah so thank you brother uh looking forward to talking to you again sure thing if you enjoyed this episode trust me this is where we just scratched the surface in any podcast conversation the nectar of the podcast comes out after the one hour mark If a guest is willing to talk to me for two hours two and a half hours if they have that much to say and sarbjit mohanti has that much to say even after the


mohanti has that much to say even after the second episode trust me he has at least five episodes in him that's the level of experience that he's gained over the course of his journey he's got that many stories that many anecdotes he was one of the most enjoyable conversationalists that we've had on the show lately because he's someone who's genuinely put himself in dangerous situations in occult-oriented situations he's going to be back on the show on both English and the Hindi podcast watch out for our second episode and as we highlighted in this particular episode as well begin your positivization journey begin your meditation Journey now download level super mind it will help enhance all aspects of your life that's my promise to you if you engage in daily meditation you'll notice your mind and your reality drastically changing every single day for more episodes like this make sure you follow TRS on Spotify every episode's available on Spotify 48 hours before it's available anywhere else in the world


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if they did not pay the taxes if they failed listen to this carefully if they fail to pay the taxes the months of darts were free to take away their women and children and sell in the slave trade it was very rampant so shivra wanted to show that I have arrived okay a Hindu king has arrived what does he do he plants a coronation was like now when this coronation ceremony happened it must have hit aurangzeb really really hard really really hard so it is that time he started demolition of the temples you know in full swing and he also thought of reinstating Gizzy attacks which was canceled by Akbar Meera bhaskaran gave us one of the Blockbuster trilogies of TRS in recent times this episode is a sequel to that trilogy we talk more about The Life and Times of chatrapati shivaji Maharaj and this one we've also highlighted The Life and Times of aurangzeb in this one the fourth one is another insightful look into one of the


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I did not know the power of podcast then okay no no we're glad uh as I told you outside I think you're doing a huge job for Indian history uh it's this kind of history that we're not taught in history textbooks you know the gruesome stuff the Gory stuff the inspirational stuff why we not taught about these things because uh generally uh in the textbook histories written in a very dry manner you know this happened this happened this happened so no reasons why that happened and what the people thought why did did what they did yeah that's the problem I think people have a nice Viewpoint of what the world was like what the Indian empire was like at that point yes and by Indian empire I mean the Mughal Empire primarily at that point yes and parallely shivra is escaped from Agra and from what I have understood about history this pissed off aurangzeb a lot yeah that he had escaped so aurangzeb is a very key part of this


so aurangzeb is a very key part of this episode because as you said in our first episode in order to understand shivrai better you've got to understand so I'll let you take the story forward from whichever point you think is best so after the Escape I wouldn't say send thousands of um Horsemen in all the direction to capture any person or any group traveling with a small nine-year-old boy okay but as all of us know history a little shambu Raja was left behind at mathura because shivrai knew that aurangzeb will be surely looking at father and son due many were captured many were sent to Agra many were flogged and no anybody no religion no it it was not uh only a Hindu father and son they were Muslims Christians everybody was captured and sent to Agra for verification whether they are the same as they escaped but where was uh he was left back in mathura okay was left in mathura he was just nine years old and he was protected he was


just nine years old and he was protected he was he was left with um with the relatives of moroji pingle okay in mathura okay and they were very protective for Shamu raje so you know uh shivrai was leaving behind a piece I wouldn't even say piece of his heart his entire heart he was leaving behind him at mathura but he had to travel fast you know so from mathura if you see the distance between mathura to Pune Stones Throw if you as the crow flights it is more than thousand kilometers thousand two hundred thousand three hundred kilometers but those days there were no highways you had to climb the mountains uh you have to cross the rivers and you needed papers to cross the rivers no Ferry man will take you unless you have those papers they're like passports issued by the Mughal government nobody can cross the border so it must have taken a long time it must have been a tiring Journey so shivra must have thought that it is impossible


so shivra must have thought that it is impossible to travel this fast uh without getting noticed along with the nine-year-old shambaraji so he was left at mathura so when shambura when shivray reached Rajkot he declared that Shamu Raja is dead we have to do all his kriya karma why because then aurangzeb will not search for shambhurat so that's how it was happening but what are the repercussions of this Escape now shivrai has escaped his safe in rygard nobody can touch him later on shambhu Raja escaped also reached raigad that itself is an enthralling story now you know Ram Singh who was Mirza raje Jai Singh's son who looked after shivaji at Agra this Ram Singh after The Escape of shivaji was sent to Assam to fight it's like a kind of a punishment what's happening in Assam Assam they were Rebels and then they were um you know a home Empire a home Empire yeah and they were they were like those


home Empire yeah and they were they were like those they were tribes also which I said no they were cannibalistic cry tribes and there were cruel tribes they could hack you to death they were like jungle people so it was always a punishment if you are sent on these Frontiers by your badshah and this was a punishment to Ram Singh because shivrai had escaped just want to give a small piece of information here the military personnel we've had on the show always said that the Northeast was the most difficult place to go and fight and they're saying that about the 90s and 2000s yeah I can't imagine what it was 200 300 years ago it was a watery marshy land all over my point of highlighting all these different aspects is that we have the Mughal Empire in the middle in and around Delhi and that whole Northern belt yeah and then under that we've got the maratha Empire on the west we've got the six on the East we've got the Northeast so


six on the East we've got the Northeast so yeah I feel like aurangzeb wasn't just kind of getting attacked by shivra there was a lot of people's eyes when lots of people wanted to kill him yeah so take bahadur Singh actually fought for the mughals in the beginning along with ram Singh In Assam but he was of a thought he was a very strong person he thought equality and justice are the most important more than anybody's religion equality and justice are the most important things for humans okay so when he came back from Assam uh in the early 1670 early 70s a lot now this history is repeating a lot of pandits from Kashmir came and met him and they said is it impossible for us to live in Kashmir because the the people our people are torturing us they are killing us and they are forcing us to convert when he heard this when he heard this he changed his mind and he went against aurangzeb and Revolt happened that Revolt


against aurangzeb and Revolt happened that Revolt aurangzeb really cracked down on that Revolt take bahadur Singh was captured in in 1675 or 1674 or 75 or April I think he was brought to Chandni Chowk and there were his seven or eight of his uh loyal people in front of him they uh orange have ordered to kill them and one they say was thrown into a boiling oil in front of take bahadur so that he changes his mind they asked him to convert he refused and then he was hacked to death limb by Limp and this was this is known Guru Gobind Singh his son escaped this and then he was so fired by his father's sacrifice that he started Khalsa that every one person in a sick family will be devoted to Army are a military person that's where I think the six actually became a warrior class they became a warrior class see how one act of this butterfly effect of aurangzeb's fanaticism and begot


effect of aurangzeb's fanaticism and begot he was a bigot and his fanaticism this is the result of that they say that he was the last powerful Mughal Emperor because he didn't have any powerful or capable successes so do you think that because he was being attacked from all directions he didn't get time to groom his successes is that's why is that why there was a downfall not groom his successor he suspected his children of Hosting him he ill-treated his children see there are four five children one nababai there was a Hindu queen that she had two sons one was Muhammad Sultan and second was muadzam then there was dilraspanu his Queen consort he she was a Persian okay she had two sons one was Akbar not the not the Akbar Emperor Akbar and as them Azam and Akbar and then he had he had married a concubine of darashiku and he had one son from her known as kambaksh now this Muhammad Sultan in the


as kambaksh now this Muhammad Sultan in the war of succession Muhammad sultan aurangzebs old or eldest son helped his uncle Shah shuja in Bengal that is why Muhammad Sultan was caught by aurangzeb imprisoned at gwalior Fort and there at the age of 36 he died of depression why wasn't he killed maybe it was his son he didn't pick because kashmiri pandit's daughter of kashmiri King's Daughter Hindu King's Daughter she created a ruckus so you know those days you can't take photo a click and you send on WhatsApp look look look your son is alive those days what they used to do I would send a a line drawing illustrator he will go to the prison uh make um Muhammad Sultan as a model and He will draw Muhammad Sultan and bring that picture back to his mother wow yeah it was like that those days there's no WhatsApp no no thing no camera so though that type so nababai was very particular that


that type so nababai was very particular that aurangzeb does not kill um he her son did the queen really have say against the Mughal emperor hold wife will have a husband some some really fought but I will tell you a very interesting uh story about Akbar dilras banu's Second Son Azam and Akbar they are three daughters also they were older so much you must have heard they were poets and we were very talented girls so this Akbar and shambu raje they are born in 1657. they both lost their mother uh early in life like Akbar lost his mother when dilrasbanu died when he was just two three months old and shambu raje lost his mother Sai Bai Sai Rani sahib when he was two years old they both uh left their father for some reason which we will come to that in 1679 Akbar left aurangzeb because he did not like the bigotry of our exit and at the same time shambu Raja left and went to the