been like an idol for me uh you know when my career began so just speaking to use a huge deal being in my house a huge deal i will make you sign this copy though sure so this book i took almost two years this was an effort during my uh touring days with indian team i mean i just kept writing in the side note as a side note then once i finished my tenure i sat down for six months the editing took longer i'm telling you writing a book is very easy but proof reading oh my god i understood what is proof reading after that no i'm seeing it and it's you know they say a book is a reflection of the author's energy i can see how systematic you are and that's the sense i got from this podcast as well long term if you want to achieve anything in life it is going to be an outcome of systems absolutely and i feel that whether you're talking about virat kohli the indian cricket team uh this whole fitness wave we're


indian cricket team uh this whole fitness wave we're seeing all over the world of cricket it's your systems that have been very much responsible for at least an aspect of that wave so so thank you from the cricket fan and all of us i have madness and have a method too amazing bye sushankarsa thank you means a lot that was the episode for today again biology health fitness these are subjects that we haven't really covered on this podcast when i began the podcast health lifestyle was supposed to be central themes for me unfortunately we've only covered it on some episodes with luke coutinho that's about to change i hope you all enjoyed this particular episode with basushankar if you're a cricketer who's played in the ranji trophy in the ipl and if you're watching this i hope this episode helped you we have done a series on sports conditioning on this channel do go check it out we'll link it down below also why don't you make an appearance on the nvidia show


don't you make an appearance on the nvidia show we need to bring in more personalities from the world of sports we have a hindi podcast as well go check that out for now make sure you follow us on spotify trs is a spotify exclusive which means that every episode is available on spotify 48 hours before it's available anywhere else in the world the rs is only beginning its journey and i hope you're gaining value from every single episode namaste we'll see you soon [Music]


we bring you another bollywood special this one's with vani kapoor she's got one of the most underrated journeys in the film industry in an era where we throw around words like nepotism or favoritism when it comes to the film industry here's a story of a person who came up the hard way through hard work through dedication and through kind of making her own pathway in life i'm yet to meet an indian who's not wanted to act at some point in their life so if you're an aspiring actor i hope that this particular podcast gives you inspiration vani kapoor ranbir kapoor and sanjay that's new movie shamshera is releasing on the 22nd of july 2022. go watch it in theaters but as for now if you're a podcast listener make sure you follow us on spotify every episode's available on spotify 48 hours before it's available anywhere else in the world here's to a fantastic authentic open genuine conversation with vani kapoor on trs here we go [Music] in the


kapoor on trs here we go [Music] in the house tonight saturday evening we're doing the vani show vani kapoor it's the runway show it will always be i'm just too happy to be here like it doesn't feel like we are doing anything we're just chilling in your house and it's beautiful i must say yeah i this is why i urge people to always do the podcast at home yeah uh because this room brings out but yeah how do you feel in this room though it's uh it's a very cozy interesting room i love in fact your entire house i was loving the space and the way you've used that space i saw a gratitude a day book lying on your shelf a little bit of spying happen here and there but i'm loving the collection of books that you have here i'm loving the like you have a laughing bhuta here you have uh such amazing collection of things and artifacts and stuff it's interesting have you got to where you wish to be not yet


you got to where you wish to be not yet there's more to go there's more there are many more aspirations and dreams and yeah like what like just get better no each day like i i don't i haven't reached a place of contentment yet have you do you feel content hundred percent genuinely yeah recently yeah in the last one yeah yes i am so happy dude like i'm really happy that you know i want to feel that like i want to feel genuinely like okay this my personal and my professional life and everything just feels okay this is set and i'm set and i'm home and i've pretty much but i've i don't feel that yet i don't you know i don't know how i feel about feeling that yeah and i do you know luke continuous he's a holistic lifestyle coach he's been on the show a lot uh he's an iconic kind of sort of life coach for all of india and he was on the show yesterday and i told him the same thing


show yesterday and i told him the same thing that i'm feeling so content i'm feeling weird about it that's so amazing i'm so envious because i want to feel that feeling i want to have that feeling of just some content there are days i feel like that but it it comes in sports you know it doesn't stay consistent so i i feel uh maybe you have to practice it you know after you've gained fame in your life what's the craziest experience you've had because i've had like a lot of entouraging experiences lately and i'm just like what has happened like what sites for people who haven't uh ever watched it it's about a show where one person becomes he becomes an actor he takes his friends away yeah uh acting was never on the card sweet but fame always was like i wanted fame in some capacity and i ended up in a career which actually gave me the fame yeah and now i get to take my friends with me wow so when we travel


take my friends with me wow so when we travel when we have experiences we're shooting vlogs it's very it's kind of a version of my life that i manifested from the time i started watching as a teenager but for you what's been that experience where you're just like wow is this really my life um it could be anything meeting someone doing something yeah just traveling no like traveling so much i remember for basically we went to paris we stayed in beautiful apartments for almost three months and you know we had everybody had their individual apartments and and on a very like uh uh posh street and you know with the best life and we were being pampered me and when we were being absolutely spoiled there going to this um stunning restaurants and places like very like um the best of the best places and um just just a life living like not as tourist but as uh locals in paris that only happened because we were part of a certain project you know um our film uh trailer


certain project you know um our film uh trailer launch was on the top of eiffel tower you know so we were right there at the top you know doing it with people don't really go there uh we shot um a sequence on top of the opera house and again people are never allowed to do nobody has shot there before we did um that's surreal you know because you're like oh my god these things i never realized could come into reality you know and they could become and they're big for me because i'm like i'm still that girl normal you know um from a middle class family in delhi and who's who's just witnessing things which are beyond the realm of what she could have dreamt of and yes things like this for war i remember we went to lake como and we were staying again in some seven star property thanks to my co-actors because of them we get to like stay in such posh places and uh yeah just like just just um i remember once me and ritik there


just just um i remember once me and ritik there we went for some pizza place like we went i i treated him no did he treat me for pizza i later treated him does he eat pizza that one day when he texted me saying okay i am in a mood to have a cheat day let's do pizza i'm like okay and i found that pizza place and we went to this um really bad pizza place because i wanted to yell at i wanted to like strangle my friend who recommended recommended that place because it was so bad um but he was so sweet we ended up ordering three pizzas of different kinds and all three were really bad and they sucked and and he still sweetly ate those bad pizzas and i so did i because i was just i didn't know where to look and what's it like eating pizzas with ritik roshan he's so sweet he's so kind and he's just uh he's somebody like i i feel is like i feel i'm a lot like him okay as


like i feel i'm a lot like him okay as a person also and the way i am on set i do feel like i find some common uh grounds of of course he is who he is i'm not trying to compare that but just the way he he processes things and he comes on set the nervousness of the the the you know the the slight unsurety that he kind of brings with him and that's great that's amazing because you know he's always on top of his toes and he's always like okay is this the best i could do like could it push it further strangely i also feel that you know and even as people i i feel like out of everybody who i've worked with i have as a on as a human being as a person individual i do connect more to him what have you i feel like i'm very similar to how he is what have you learned from him as a professional he's he's all in it you know he there is no there is not a


you know he there is no there is not a there's no scope of let me be point one percent be laid back about it he doesn't take anything casually he's very dead serious about everything for him it's about the best shot or death i don't know why this question is popping in mind but i'm just gonna ask you the question again this is because of your observation capabilities why is ranveer singh the way he is and why is he found like that kind of success like you've worked him so you must have you know it's like when you play football with another footballer and you're on the same serve yeah and you get to know them inside out yeah as an artist you've worked with that artist what's made him special because he's kind of got that um place that the khan's occupied in the previous generation now and i put randy kapoor right next to him but specifically ranveer singh what's special about that person he's very hard working very focused um yes you know there are people who


very focused um yes you know there are people who who work extremely hard in in like in phases you know sometimes you give up because it gets that going gets even tougher and people sometimes give up he doesn't give up i think he's very very he's like a horse with blinders knowing exactly where he wants to be and i also feel like he's somebody who believes in manifestation his determination has led him to achieve whatever that he has put his eye on and energy levels energy levels also i mean he's maintaining and you know the fact that he always wanted to stand out i think you know and he stands out he stands out in the crowd because he knew exactly what works in his favor i think he's a very aware actor he's very aware as to what works and what doesn't work for him can i say something about you yeah because i've worked with you on one project we've done yes i really respect you for your professionalism thank you and uh i respect your entire industry for


thank you and uh i respect your entire industry for the discipline it has uh but specifically you and i met enough people from industry to know where people's professionalism stand and you're right up there thank you i also feel that uh it's a big reason that you've seen the success that you've seen because while you're observing the world vani kapoor people are observing you as well and i'm observing that and you know professionalism is one of those things that will just carry you through in any industry but in your industry it is not a norm there is some lack of professionalism in some pockets i never see that with you even today you were like ready on set before i was and i'm hosting you but it says something about you and your team is a manifestation of what you stand for thank you so much that is thoughtful and sweet and of such a sweet observation but do you not know this yourself like yeah i'd like to believe you know very early on i learned that uh before time


know very early on i learned that uh before time is on time and on time is late and late is not acceptable because you need to respect other people's time it's not don't take it for granted no someday you know you hold a position today maybe that you could take it for granted but there could be a point in life when you can't when you're not in the same position then what don't spoil yourself and don't don't disrespect yeah anyone i have something else to say about you as well you're a very layered person i am like and then there's definitely a part of you that's deeply hidden like you're not and i sense that even on the podcast the thing is the podcast you know when if you talk to ranvi like we were giving interviews he's like she's miss clutter and she's missed this and you know butter fingers and all of that so that's also an aspect to my personality i'm just being very poised right now but guys that's also


being very poised right now but guys that's also a side to my personality i can be very although like my thoughts can really be all over the place and i zone out i'm a space cadet what do you think your flaw is one ah there's so many i'm flawed i am so flawed let's let's talk about it and let's undo those truths but i like my flaws you know i've i've become comfortable with my flaws because they're not harming anyone they're not they're my flaws are not that dramatic where it's kind of creating a problem in anyone else's life and i accept it you know and i like my flaws i think it's good to have flaws okay cool uh you're flawless that's what i don't think so why why do you not think so man okay mate you know what the perspective let me let me give you like for lack of a better word of reality check a little bit okay when someone like vani kapoor walks into a


okay when someone like vani kapoor walks into a room the whole room stops stares observes that's how the world looks who's rude i wanna be in that room i'm speaking from the shoe tweeter oh yeah okay and also also now like i mean dude you've reached where you've reached because of being a certain way and uh a part of that along with the professionalism is also perfectionism and i think that's where you're finding your flaws i think that's very useful because i'm striving for perfection is why i'm so aware of okay but this is not perfect yet and that is not uh but along the way i've adapted speaking about failures um so i'm sure you've experienced something early on in your career either you had a struggle you had a failure then you bounced back i'm sure you've also seen lots of people who faded away in bollywood uh they started at the same time as you but then kind of dropped off i feel like we all we all hit


dropped off i feel like we all we all hit setbacks no like we all we all witness it in our lives and um i for me i don't think there's any other way you you just gotta like bounce back and and uh you know just don't you can't give up give it giving up is not an option i mean you gotta just bounce back and prove it until you conquer whatever you've set out to why do people stop getting films in bollywood could be anything yeah could be any xyz reasons could be um a lack of interest from probably their end where they're not trying hard enough maybe they're not um or they're not getting the right opportunities again opportunities is a big key and not everybody there could be a million people more far more talented than the ones who are existing in the industry but perhaps they never got the opportunity what do you do to attract those opportunities involved like what have you done right before you even got your debut film what i did right


you even got your debut film what i did right was i waited for the right film to come along i've been very patient and it's not just about my first film i think it's about my entire career uh so far i have been very extremely patient to be able to not miss out on being part of the films that i have been you know um i genuinely have worked hard auditioned for except barring a war in asham shredder i've audition for every other film that i've been part of and um and yeah you just you know you for me i knew exactly what i wanted or at least exactly what i didn't want and i waited it out until someone like a wire if they they saw that potential in me and they backed me so yeah you you you know when you say yrf yeah i understand it because i'm in the media industry most people don't understand the role yrf plays yeah in bollywood today like as a talent management firm of sorts as a what


a talent management firm of sorts as a what weren't they the first ones to come up with the whole talent age in-house talent agency i believe so and then other production houses now also have why don't you explain it from your perspective in terms of what does a yrf do for you as an acting professional i'll tell you so simple girl coming from delhi i was a model you know my my pictures also amongst many other must be ten of the girls in on the list got selected shortlisted by sharno sharma who's the casting director for yeshua's films and i i was in bombay for some jewelry brand shoot as a model and back then i was with elite modeling agency so she happened to approach the agency me along with couple of other girls from the agency she she asked for a meeting we went to her house uh and we were all sitting you know on a you know she had a lovely sofa and you know chairs put up and everything and we were all


know chairs put up and everything and we were all there in the room and one by one and she kept asking an interview like you just gauging you know glimpse of one's personality uh with conversations um and i i remember she asking me something very uh some sort of a general knowledge question she had asked me back then something had happened in new zealand or some something had happened and uh to my fortune i knew what it was what was happening i was up to date and i happened to speak to her and she's like okay you're smart and then she's like okay can you dance and i'm like i don't have professional training but i can try and then she put up some couple of songs from um and abner banadi jody and dhoom and a couple of other songs and and i kept dancing dancing for approximately an hour plus and i'm like listen i have a flight back i can't dance anymore i have to go i clearly i didn't understand


i have to go i clearly i didn't understand what's happening because i'm just dancing and giving a impromptu audition and then it's not like i had a scene or anything i had to enact out of scene so she's like okay okay good enough for the day and everything okay bye i'm sitting in my flight i get a call and she's like listen can you stay back i would like to audition you further and i'm like yeah so i never really took it seriously seriously because i'm like it's their stretch friends they'll go to stars did you get out of the flight no you stayed i didn't get off the flight i was in my flight and and i remember i had a i think it was a wednesday or something tuesday or wednesday and on on friday the same week i had a cosmopolitan shoot it was my first ever big shoot with a magazine and i'm like no shano i can't stay back and um firstly it's not like you know it's just


um firstly it's not like you know it's just it's a new city for me and we i don't don't really know each other that well and i don't know what i'm going to do and there's no scene that you have it's not like you know it's a quick days audition you do and you leave back so she's like okay go do your shoot come back and then we can audition you further i still didn't believe her i'm like are you sure is this serious is this going i'm not going to play some character artist role or anything i'm looking out to be you know at the lead otherwise i don't want to do it and she's like what's wrong with you firstly just calm down and we'll send you a flight ticket just come then she spoke to my parents my parents were they've always been highly over overtly protective about us throughout our childhood so they're like okay it's it's just films you know it's reputed and um they seem ethically and morally


reputed and um they seem ethically and morally sound and it's shana sharma she's kind of comforted my family because you know it's a woman casting director and everything's in place and my elite agency was very thorough professionals so i'm gonna go okay the base is fine they sent me a ticket uh she kind of arranged where i could stay in bombay she helped me get a place stayed for a month auditioned a lot manisha sharma liked my auditions and then that's how i got should they see hmm yeah so i don't know any luck maybe maybe or maybe i manifested it maybe while you know as a little child when i used to look at ashaj films and dharma films and i do remember wanting to be an actor and dancing like those heroines and looking like them and enacting those scenes i think maybe somewhere it really hit a feeling and kind of sparked you know my my i think the jet to the my onway journey to the industry what's more important for


onway journey to the industry what's more important for you at this stage a romantic relationship or your career i think there is absolutely these two things are dissected very um systematically in my life there's a personal life and there's a professional life and i'm not trying to kind of come make one compete with the other that's what you're protecting by the way yeah so i think i don't want to compete with like oh that your personal life is so i feel uh i'm actually yeah you ask me anything about professional life i'll say it so are you dating anybody right now just so you know okay how do you feel about that i'm happy in my company but i wouldn't mind at this point in life to have somebody who um i can connect with yeah what do you look for in like someone i know we're going down a personal route but you don't want to talk about it no i mean i'm okay to just i mean i'm not naming anybody so uh but what do you look


naming anybody so uh but what do you look for in a partner loyalty is as cliched and mundane as it may sound it's not very common these days old school yeah that's good i'm old school so loyalty and commitment are two things which are taken very much for granted i think it the concept seems a little old to a lot of people who i meet like people my age and you know just people around me i don't know if it's the city effect or it's the industry that i'm in or if it's everybody um but i do i like yeah so i feel like i've my parents brought me up in for a different era and i'm living in a different respect this is why it's important to talk about aspects of your personality yeah you you've also earned a lot of respect on the internet for just saying that because infidelity and fidelity are very important concepts for millennials and gen z's because people have very polarized opinions on it some people truly believe in


opinions on it some people truly believe in polyamory and that's fine if that's what works on that so we're going to neuroscientists and psychologists about this and they said that if you truly internally believe in polyamory like multiple partners it actually won't have an effect on your hormones or anything okay in saying that the culture that we live in which is india we are about traditions loyalty i think it gives me a sense of sense of stability in my life because i feel like i have something to call my own and i have something that i can fall back at and that's the sense of home and comfort that you get no that's what you feel for your parents no you can be like i want five multiple parents one set is good you know and they're yours and they're your people and you know no matter what happens you can always fall back at them you know they'll always have your backs they'll always be there for you no matter how how much a world can go


you no matter how how much a world can go against you you'll have somebody who's yours everyone's got that one person where they feel like it was the one that got away or the most intense relationship or you know the the love of you yeah sometimes you feel you're the heartbreaker sometimes someone else is crushing your heart into pieces yeah why would someone crush your heart money i wonder why no but why do you think they're cuckoo in the head i mean no but seriously like any anyone sometimes some people do it for their selfish reasons because they feel okay i've moved on from this chapter of my life and now this feels convenient it's it's sometimes about convenience also you know people have become a lot um how do i say they're very um not cold-hearted but what's the word for them being okay this today works for me and that doesn't practical they're very practical sometimes yeah for them they're thinking okay this is at my life at this phase of my life this is not


life at this phase of my life this is not convenient so let me not carry forward this and this seems more convenient so they played by their convenience yeah i respect you opening up so much about your personal life though i know and i can sense that it's not a comfortable area and i'm like have i spoken too much because see i'm feeling comfortable you're making me so comfortable that i'm yapping a lot people you're not yapping you're just speaking your heart out that's what this room does by the way and this house but uh people need to hear perspectives on loyalty and fidelity in a world that's constantly talking about how seductive the other side of relationships are yeah um i don't know and i see this while i don't even judge them i don't judge to each its own uh but i like when there's no hypocrisy you know like they when they're when they are who they are and there's no two ways about it you know and when you come into something with clarity


you know and when you come into something with clarity okay this is what works for me and this is what i'm looking for so you know okay are we bonding over the same things are we on very two different mental wavelengths emotional wavelengths are different so i like that bit at least i respect someone who's who is real and to your face that's your second point loyalty and uh just be who you are yeah just be real just be real whoever you are however you are just be who you are from day one like there shouldn't be a a joke and be like all this while i thought you're this and then boom there's a different discovery it's very important to meet the right person at the right time when you don't meet somebody at the right time that at the right time is so important which i've learned i love ranbir kapoor he's like a man crush like oh my god my god i just have man crush on him girls guys everybody aunties these little babies


him girls guys everybody aunties these little babies everybody have they all have a man crush on him he's too radiant as a guy like uh when you're playing a sport with someone even if you're against them yeah people's real energy really comes on the field a real character really comes out of the field very determined but in his heart a very gentle person there's a there's a child alive inside i feel that about you as well as a big like child little 12 year old girl very much alive inside you but is that correct uh there is this kind of innocence and all him which you see in his performances etc uh he you know if he retires tomorrow he's made that deep an artistic mark in the world of films that people will remember him for generations to come i agree with you what's he like he's uh real i think honest he's honest he's real there's no facade with him he is who he is um and he's humble about everything he doesn't take anything


and he's humble about everything he doesn't take anything for granted and he's extremely polite i like his temperament like i admire his temperament what is temporary not once will the guy lose his school on anyone be it his team be it anybody from the you know you know sometimes people get married oh this one came into my eye line and they lose the cool because they're like i'm trying to focus hell and you know i'm i'm not saying that that person's wrong or whatever that that's the temperament and whatever this guy is just so cool just he's innately cool i think and he's cool about things he's cool cool headed he's very cool-headed um and not too many people are like that no not too many people uh there are a lot of people who might there could be a lot of um how do i say externally there could be a lot of modesty and humbleness and sweetness um but when he's you know i feel like he's truly humble he's and he's


feel like he's truly humble he's and he's modest and he's not egoistic there's no ego there's no he doesn't come with the with all that you know um [Music] the the tantrum yeah and the hang-ups of being a big star and i know who i am and i know what my audience is and you know i am the senior one or i'm this and i'm that there's no hang-ups per se he's he's relaxed he's easy you know you know what he's like as a footballer he's great heard great i've heard he's great he's deceptively strong wow like he's a very lean guy he wouldn't expect him to be that strong but he's really strong fast and he's a very aggressive footballer but the aggression switches off if you go and have a conversation with him yeah so uh i was the left back he was the right winger so i had to like defend him yeah i went up to him and i told him that bro i love and hate


i told him that bro i love and hate that i have to defend against you hate it because you're really good love it because i get to know you yeah and he just gave me a hug in the middle of the match and i'm so yeah incredible guy but there is this silent warrior energy inside him there's a silent samurai energy inside him for sure i also feel a part of him is solely to him like you know he keeps it to himself he doesn't reveal all all of him to the world that's what i sense i don't know maybe the best artists need to do that maybe a little bit you need to conserve and preserve for yourself and not let the entire mystery be taken away yeah yeah yeah vani kapoor yes see this is this is what's in your heart and now i'm going to tell you a little more that i got no okay there's too much love and emotion in your heart which you said you said you're an emotional this is the first time


said you're an emotional this is the first time i feel like i've gotten to know you like properly yeah even though we've had long conversations one of the very few people who can say that in the industry who i've also had interactions with mm-hmm just saying okay i i am so what inspires you then to keep going like along with the love what else is there in the heart love for anything inspires me love inspires me i think love for my work love for films love for the kind of things i want to do and achieve you know those those things is what i live for like your own the life you see for yourself yeah the life i see for myself professionally people in my life you know they inspire me to do better be better i just want to highlight one anecdote yeah for every podcast we research a lot yeah before like there's a lot i know about you that have you know used for the questions yeah one of the people who gave me the perspective on you


the people who gave me the perspective on you said that that they respect you a lot because you've risen beyond what people expected of you and who's that no no it's someone from my team okay uh but um it's so true like uh there's a lot of professionals out there i don't know how closely you follow football but people keep comparing messi and ronaldo yeah and there are messies in this world were just gifted and then there's some ronaldo's afterwards yeah there you rithtik roshan all of you all working he takes gifted and he works doubly hard so i think he's just uh bonanza yeah but that's that is the purpose of professionalism especially in any part of the media industry yeah uh it's why you should be taking your work that seriously as an artist you've been given a gift it could be the way you look the way you act the way you speak the way you write but when you're in that professional environment you have to give your 500 to it absolutely


environment you have to give your 500 to it absolutely i i don't know any other way maybe maybe someday i'll be so confident which is also scary to think because i like my shakiness i feel it keeps me grounded it keeps me more charged and active and you know i i always have curiosity to be like okay how other you know are there other ways to better it i feel like the day i become too comfortable that's the end of me discovering anything new um that's scary no i mean dude you're doing you're doing fine you're doing incredible i'm learning as we grow we only hear this i'm thinking as a colleague in the industry like we only hear great things about you there's a lot to admire about you that the world will gradually discover as you keep accomplishing things in your life and career fingers crossed you're incredible and i can say so much to you about you but this was a lot of fun actually yeah what do you find funny i could do


actually yeah what do you find funny i could do this like sitting in my night suit also and just be like you know like with my feet folded up and be like yeah that's that's why i want people to come home and speak to me this yeah this house will add an energy comfort energy comfort space for sure no but the professional and the emotional 12 year old inside i'm glad that they both enjoyed this experience someday i shall show you the sloppy side of myself what okay what uh what have you observed about uh me that's the final question do you i think that you also sus people very correctly you also gauge uh what they are comfortable and how they you know what they want to open about and what they don't you also understand you have a good understanding of people uh you know you try your best to like make things as positive and as real and as you know um even when you're talking to me right now you made it so comfortable for me to


right now you made it so comfortable for me to open up you know someone who's a bit protective and guarded of her life i feel like that beauty that art not everybody has you know so what you're doing right now if somebody else was doing in your place perhaps might not have had the same conversation you know perhaps this conversation would have been an entirely different it would have gone in a completely different way so you bring out the things that people are keeping to themselves you're very good with you know making someone feel at home the brutal truth is we also reject a lot of potential guests moment we heard your name yes who's going to be on the show because i feel you have a lot to say i'm grateful yes to be completely honest i have a lot to say about yeah um there's a lot more for you to open up about on the internet yeah oh i i s well i don't know if i can say i suck at social media but i do i think my


suck at social media but i do i think my digital team is uh not the happiest with me no no you're you're great but generally i feel like you've come up the hard way you've come up the right way yeah you're not a product of privilege and uh people know that about you there's gonna be stories and perspectives from you that people will get know over time and that's what i'm also looking forward to i'm looking forward to another podcast of us somewhere very very soon yeah it was very nice talking to you and often after conversations i gauge my own energy levels has it dropped is it higher if it's higher it means i'll do the podcast again so thank you thank you so much only respect and all the best wishes and vibes to you thank you thank you thank you this was great that was the episode for today what i appreciate about mumbai conversations just like this is that you get to meet hard-working artists people who have the inner child alive that's the


artists people who have the inner child alive that's the definition of an artist for me along with that hard working element while all of us are artists in our own ways not every artist thinks from a commercial perspective not every artist is ready to put in the hours is ready to work with discipline and that's what i respect about people like vani kapoor plus speaking with this power woman and for more fantastic inspirational conversations like this make sure you follow trs on spotify every episode is available on spotify 48 hours before it's available anywhere else in the world this was vk on trs make sure you subscribe to our clips channel as well but the highlights of every episode are uploaded at the same time that the podcast is uploaded make sure you subscribe to that channel we will be back with drs very very soon [Music] you


in the Western World there is something called a music healing so let's say you're unwell so if you actually listen to certain music for so many hours a day you'll be surprised that a limit goes away that's where Bhajan comes in so you need to have emotions and you should have intelligence also so bhajans invoke that politic that's why you have this different musical instruments different ragas and they invoke those particular bhav in you be careful next time you will see some lemon being there or maybe some you know vegetable with some colors around it and all Don't Go Near it you mean like a plastic bag yes really yeah don't even go behind it you never know what they have invoked and put it on the road you see this a lot in Indian cities oh especially tired to cities really like you just see some food lying down on those you know closed plastic bag I've always assumed that someone's left it for beggars to eat no no no you never know so something which


eat no no no you never know so something which is unknown because what power they have put into that you don't know so over the course of three years of running the show we've spoken a sign scientists we've spoken to astronauts actors Sports people entrepreneurs people from all walks of life but the data tells us that the hottest most requested podcasts are related to dark Concepts like black magic like ghosts like the occult in general this is another conversation just like that but with a slight spiritual bent we broke down the four Vedas this is a fantastic introductory podcast to the subject of Indian scriptures this is Dr Radha Krishna and pillai who returns on TRS once again make sure you follow TRS on Spotify every episode's available on Spotify 48 hours before it's available anywhere else in the world Dr rkp returns as an All-Star on TRS once again [Music] Dr Radha Krishnan pillai welcome back to TRS it's always an honor sharing this platform with TRS of course with you


honor sharing this platform with TRS of course with you ranveer and what lovely conversations we had in the past and thanks to the audience for giving us so many likes of course shares and of course meeting us and giving us so much positive feedback looking forward for this show also yeah I think uh yourself these three people have their own current followings when it comes to this show the switch up recently is that now we are making the show for international audiences as well it's gone beyond India India's always been a knowledge Capital so uh I think the world knows about the bhagavad-gita the Mahabharata the ramayan what people don't know about is the text that came before these texts the texts that have mystical elements and the texts that have um talk about ghosts and talk about some and talk about psychedelics and talk about all these occult practices occult practices we're talking about The Vedas and this one so I don't even know where to begin the story so you help me out


where to begin the story so you help me out Where Do We Begin I will begin with the story okay so first of all Vedas are called as a purusha so let me explain that to you a purusha means not written by men not written by men or human beings means human beings without the help of human beings Vedas have been created so it was created by like an alien race I would say you know let's look it the other way let's say you have a camera okay somebody created it and if that particular person wants to make a manual how to use it properly so it is the whole universe is created by God so it is said that God only created The Vedas but of course he used one human being and he was appointed to write down The Vedas so the knowledge is in the universe that person downloaded it and the name of that person is Veda vyas whose birthday we celebrate as Guru purnima so we recently had Guru purnima and you'd be


we recently had Guru purnima and you'd be surprised is not the writer of Vedas or creator of Vedas he is the one who actually compiled it and wrote it in human language okay so if you look at the internet today it's all there you can't feel the internet but you can use the internet so The Vedas are actually knowledge of the universe so uh what I have understood is that the bhagavad-gita is a compilation of the four Vedas is that accurate No No actually bhagavad-gita is a part of Mahabharata but it contains the essence of the upanishads related it's not related at all so I would say they're all interconnected but bhagavad-gita is a part of Mahabharata so let me go back and say there are actually Four Vedas it's classified the whole knowledge the first one is called rigved somewhere and of course we have the atharva where all the occult practices a lot of rituals are mentioned they're all different methods of reaching


are mentioned they're all different methods of reaching the same God different methods methods so you can just study one very well and still get you know but let's not forget to have the guidance of a guru while we are studying why because reading a book doesn't give you knowledge discussion with a master gives you the knowledge why would you like to begin this explanation of The Vedas like which one would you like to start with regret the first one okay so during those days they used to invoke natural elements in fact Rick Veda starts with invoking Agni that is fire God okay invoking means inviting I think both can be the common word invoking inviting is the same for example in India even today the first God that is worshiped is actually fire god you mean when you're doing a Puja like when you're praying yeah like a housewarming weddings what do you keep Agni sakshi what does sakshi mean as a witness okay so when we are you know doing any ceremony it is fire god that


you know doing any ceremony it is fire god that is invoked in rig Veda the first God that is invoked is actually fire god but of course there are elements you can see that in western movies the five elements and all so water is there fire is there why you is there so in fact if you look at the Indian Navy if you look at the logo it talks about Shannon varunaha Varna means C or water God so in the rig Veda we invoke the natural powers of natural elements how would you kind of explain the rigved from a macro perspective what what is in that overall book like if I had to explain autobiography of Yogi I'd say that it's a good introduction to the world of yoga and spirituality what's the rigved so rigved is the introduction to the powers of the natural element which you can invoke in your life and inside your own body as well yes of course because let's say I require a particular temperature if it goes down or if it goes higher then


it goes down or if it goes higher then I am not well you mean your body has a natural temperature I think it's 37.5 degrees Celsius but uh if there's too much heat in your body say you're eating too much spicy food you're eating a lot of meat you're eating processed food heat increases yes the regret possibly has yogic techniques or food knowledge food information about foods that cools down your body yes parallel if your body is too cold it has information about how to heat up your body but what else Beyond just fire and temperature so there are many natural elements so they are all invoking the different nature elements so that's very good okay what's that deeper in the book like when you say invoking other is there a list of mantras yes okay maybe for the Western audiences can you explain what a mantra is yeah so Mantra is something that you discover to invoke the natural elements for example if you've seen any Puja there is a particular panditji who will invoke that Lord okay


particular panditji who will invoke that Lord okay here's how I understand mantras um I should look down upon bhajans the word Bhajan is basically you can think of it the Catholic Peril the Christian parallel is him you know like religious songs I said question what the logic behind that is As I Grew Older and I discovered bhajans and kirtans I've realized that they all made in very particular Tunes yes and if you sing along or if you even hum along with it it kind of changes your breathing pattern slightly your breath always has an effect on your heartbeat and your heartbeat always has an effect on your perception of reality because it affects your mind yes therefore bhajans affect how calm you feel usually they usually calm you down oh interestingly we have heard about astral travel and also planchets so what happens in the western culture suppose you have to invoke a dead soul you can actually invoke them and get them in a physical form like Ouija boards exactly


them in a physical form like Ouija boards exactly so let me give you an example in the Mahabharata how are the five Panda was born so their mother kunti actually could invoke the devathas so if you look at it there was no biological way of you know producing these children so how did they happen so all these five pandavas were actually the children of gods so kunti had the power of invoking the mantras and these particular Gods so if you look at for example Bheem beam is supposed to be vayu Putra coming back to rigveda the son of wind I mean and he is the brother of Hanuman who is also son of wind so she invokes and then hanumanji is not born but in this particular case we have been beam Bond so this five pandavas were actually born to kunti by invoking through these mantras where it is said that there are different eras like today we are living in a digital era during the Mahabharata vedicara it


a digital era during the Mahabharata vedicara it was a full era of mantras I'll give an example you know if you look at the Mahabharata War you must have seen some television serials they never had missiles it's like what we make today they could take a blade of grass and they would invoke a mantra and that particular blade of grass actually became a missile a brahmastra so brahmastra is not the discovery of a missile or the invention of it missile in a particular laboratory like modern day Warfare it is actually invoking the mantras and giving the power to that little bed of glass which can actually act as an arrow let's talk about brahmastra a little bit because now that's the Hot Topic so brahmastra is a movie being created by Ayan Mukherjee it has Ranbir Kapoor in alia but it aims to kind of I won't call it give India its own superhero genre but it's giving India its own cultural genre because they are inspired from


its own cultural genre because they are inspired from ancient Indian culture which contains a lot of elements related to superheroes and superpowers and mystical elements just like this uh in the Mahabharata there is a particular weapon called the brahmaster which I believe Arjun who's the main hero basically of the Mahabharata in some ways what do you say while there's a bunch of Heroes he's supposed to be the most fearsome Warrior and the the best at Warfare and he comes out at the top in the end he gets the brahmastra as a gift from shivji from Shiva after meditating over it after performing some kind of penance but shivji I believe only gives him a limited number one or two of them or something like that if I correct me if I'm wrong so um and he tells Arjun to only use it when it's truly required has also got a brahmastra of his own now eventually in the war Arjun has to face his own Guru because of circumstance during


to face his own Guru because of circumstance during the course of the 18-day war the guru dhonacharya is killed but he gives his brahmastra to his son ashwathama once the work is done Arjun and the pandavas are victorious still alive after the war and as a form of Revenge he decides to use the brahmastra on the last uh heir to the pandavas so ashwathama is responsible for killing all the children of the pandavas all the grandchildren but there's one particular uh wife of abhimanyu who was the son of Arjun who's still alive after ashwathama's attack and she's pregnant at the time and he takes the brahmas and targets it at her belly and I think he fires it as well uh he's able to kill the wife the child and Krishna who's the uh avtara Vishnu at that point curses him and undoes his act he basically brings the child and the mother back to life I think it's just a child


mother back to life I think it's just a child back life I don't remember the exact details but uh he curses ashwathama saying the kind of pain you've created you're going to have to face this pain for eternity and he kind of gives him an injury on his forehead and also turns him Immortal he says that immortality along with this pain will be your curse for what you've done he brings the child back to life and that child who uh face the brunt of the brahmastra eventually becomes the heir to the pandavas and he continues the Legacy I don't remember so I will continue the story yeah sure the name of the child is what does that mean pariksha okay examining so I'll tell you this is absolutely right brahmaster is the most powerful weapon it can destroy anything and everything okay so as you rightly pointed out it's like a nuclear weapon in today's generation look at what happened to Hiroshima and Nagasaki you know all over the world people


and Nagasaki you know all over the world people are saying don't use the nuclear weapon it's a very very radicals that you should use it so ashwathama used it but Krishna was so angry that he said wait so he protects the child and when the child comes out he's looking out who was my protector that's why pariksha Karne Wala as they say he was examining he was actually looking out for Krishna so that's how the name parikshit comes in okay so uh this is me switching off as the podcaster and just becoming a student of Radha uh you dealt with a very important life event less than six months ago I don't want to say anything why don't you just share it with the audience yourself so I'll tell you I had a small issue just you know six months back it so happened that you know I started throwing a vomiting and then it was not stopping there was nothing in my stomach so my wife and my friends and everybody


stomach so my wife and my friends and everybody took me to hospital fortunately the doctor is also student of mine so they diagnosed it and saying that you know because the BP being shot up it affected my brain there's a small bleeding and I was hospitalized for 10 days and then of course I came out thanks to the doctors the whole team and the whole family of course my wife sureka helped me record but I realized one very important thing you know I recovered so fast because of two things one is the spiritual thing my father told me you know remember this is a positive thing imagine if I had got this maybe when I was 80. you know it could have been fatal but you'll be surprised I lost a lot of weight I came back into that positive state of mind and believe me it is only because the spiritual practice that my health is recovered meeting your father is also its own experience taking away nothing from the experience that you had like meeting your father is just mystical


you had like meeting your father is just mystical almost like he's got this very different energy about him always got peace and happiness joy on his face he meditates eight hours a day eight to ten hours ten hours a day uh how did he take this whole Health situation happening same thing like me when he was around 45 years old he went through a health element and he was hospitalized I still remember I was a child hardly in fourth or fifth standard and that time he discovered that you know he need to go into the spiritual path so today is 88 years old and he climbed the Himalayas were you in pain when this was happening no not at all there was no physical pain but you were in hospital but you know because had a spiritual bent of mine my doctor asked me first how do you visualize yourself I said I am visualizing myself as more stronger and fitter after this I think that's how you should be remember one thing whenever you are sick it is


remember one thing whenever you are sick it is not the body or the doctor alone it's the state of mind that you and if you visualize yourself to be perfectly fine you will become in fact I just want to say that you know when I was not well so believe me that is only one part of the whole Hanuman Chalisa we know of so many people I know of an experiment being done by a Rishi Rishi means I find friend of mine who's a scientist is a Sanskrit scholar so you know I told him there is one person who is not well he said give me his background she was always in the stage of death he went back to The Vedas he found out a particular Mantra and he chanted it over seven days and the person recovered back to health so mantras can be generic and mantras can be specific in fact you know if you look at the rituals that we follow in our particular culture it is actually getting that positive vibe so let me give


is actually getting that positive vibe so let me give an example if you look at uh The vastu Shanti that we do so when you do a housewarming sermon in our country what is the vastu is a space so the panditji will come he will invoke Ganesh ji you'll do those Mantra chanting and they say wow because you know whenever you have to freshen up you go and take a bath what about the space you actually do this Mantra chanting another example of you know making anything pure and divine is through certain rituals like for example in weddings we have this Vedic weddings where you know there is a mantra being chanted and all so please understand mantras are very scientific but we need to get a good scientist who can explain this to us or at least someone who's educated yes about these rituals you know I think rituals generally with people my age definitely with people younger than me have a very bad name because people associate rituals with um godmen


bad name because people associate rituals with um godmen like you know God how God men have a bad name in our country uh people associate rituals with old school thinking no I'll tell you what the problem is I've identified the reality so you know in my parents generation understood rituals as shraddha just have faith in godmen all that panditji but your generation is a highly educated generation you want logic and if the panditji is not able to experience logically you don't have faith in it so initially it worked with faith but today it is working with logic first and then Faith later so that was the rigved where we went on these tangents about mantras which is the Veda that you want to talk about next so second is now the Sam away is very interesting it talks about music just music so music and different formats so if you want to be in the artist side this is the Veda for you in fact all our compositions are in Poetic formats so if you look at all


are in Poetic formats so if you look at all the upanishads if you look at the Rama and Mahabharata they're all poems so you'll be surprised so Sam away is something about music what is music what what is music for you like now everyone knows what music is it's these Tunes words put together and you say it in a certain frequency and that becomes music but what about ancient human beings Indian classical music they're connected to Nature and the easiest form to understand is ragas okay so there's a warning rather there is an evening Raga there is an afternoon again probably the logic behind this is that the ragas are made in a particular tune which controls your breath if you take part in it which controls your heartbeat which controls your mind so it's again for meditative purposes a friend of mine armaan Malik he's a very big playback singer in Bollywood he was talking to me once about how his riyaz practice just training his throat to be able


riyaz practice just training his throat to be able to become a better singer and Ria is also one of those meditative practices that can help you evolve spiritually and make you a better musician it works exactly like meditation can you believe this you pointed out something nice the practice of a musician and the practice of a spiritual Seeker has got a common word called sadhana really so when you say you are practicing music actual Guru will tell you sadhana so that music is not just practicing or making your throat better it's actually reaching you towards God it's a discipline it's a discipline uh that's basically what riyaz is then yes Ria's better word in Sanskrit is sadhana okay so um basically what I figured is your throat is also like a muscle yes in the same way that you do your hata yoga which is your asanas which kind of makes your body flexible stronger sadhna these things are able to work your throat and you're able to


are able to work your throat and you're able to have more like this makes you perfect okay parallely I'd like to say that music is What feelings sound like yes that's one of the ways that music as a concept is described like today if in alien race visited Earth and didn't have a concert of Music in their own culture this is probably how we'd explain music to them like you know we feel certain things that we're not able to express two words and that comes out as music through these instruments in the Western World there is something called a music healing you must have heard about it so let's see you're unwell so if you actually listen to certain music for so many hours a day you'll be surprised that a limit goes away in fact I read a very interesting research paper if you have a health element listen to a particular music for 10 minutes every day for one month and before after you check the disease you'll be surprised it goes away why is the sound wave entirely


it goes away why is the sound wave entirely about music what is in it so because music is such an internal part of our civilization human race that without music we cannot survive so let me give an example sure so let's say you're watching a movie one of the very important elements of a movie is background music because it makes you feel a certain way the emotions are invoked like let's say we are making this video with lot of background music you will feel connected to it if it's very blunt and plain you will say okay you lose interest that's why actually background music is very important part of film making film editing or any form of creativity any creativity so think about you know without music you cannot survive on this particular planet and let me tell you even though you're logical Western research has proven it we need to be emotionally intelligent that's where Bhajan comes in so you need to have emotions and you should have intelligence also so bhajans invoke that politic that's why you


so bhajans invoke that politic that's why you have this different musical instruments different ragas and they invoke those particular bhav in you yeah um you know I hear you sir and I understand it and I've absorbed it I still don't understand how an entire Veda can be just about music maybe it's because of my limited musical understanding and I know that it's an unlimited subject yes so I would say my knowledge is also limited but think about our issues they hold wrote a whole Veda on only music you know does the same way also contain some sort of bhajans I'm assuming so bhajans is a format that we use today in our generation okay but understanding the musical notes what we call saregama padanisa and they're different formats it's it's the Indian version so westerners have a beautiful idea of you know getting into details so there are different notes different scales so the same thing has been done in our way but the difference is for us music was a connection to God


difference is for us music was a connection to God not just a performance so if music can't reach you God then what kind of music is it what's the point point the point and Bharat Muni another great Rishi who actually wrote the natya sastra talks about Sama Veda in detail so maybe we can get a music Expo to speak on samaveda okay let's talk about the next Veda for now a lot of rituals that we talk about it's there in Azure way okay so you know we have a great culture in India and one of the philosophies is called me momsa philosophy maybe we can have a separate discussion on the nine Indian philosophies okay vedanta is just one of them what is vedanta the word okay so Luffy look at it if you split the word Veda and Anta the essence of The Vedas is called vedanta which is primarily written in the upanishads like the summary of The Vedas summary of the essence of The Vedas what does that


of the essence of The Vedas what does that mean so let me put it this way like four Vedas we're talking about they are subclassified into another four way subcategories like each has its own four subcategory they are called the uh you know the samhitas are in the cars brahmanas and upanishads so upanishad is a discussion between the guru and this issue and there are 18 Main upanishads and now new upanishads have been discovered and there are more than 108 upanishads it's sort of maybe sequels to The Vedas to understand The Vedas better so it's like this you know let me put it in an example let's say you go to a doctor who has studied all the Medical Science now you're not interested in studying the whole uh knowledge of the medical science which the doctor Must Have Spent four years to understand you want an immediate solution and you say yeah my stomach is aching there is some problem now you give me the essence of your knowledge so


now you give me the essence of your knowledge so what he the doctor or she will do is prescribe you some pills or medicine so that's an Essence that doesn't mean he only can do that he has done research on so many years so if spirituality in India the philosophy of India can be summarized in essence that is vedanta okay so the essence of The Vedas is vedanta which is contained in the upanishads wow okay this is like a subject that just keeps getting unpacked uh but keeping in mind the awkward theme of the show we've got to get to the fourth weather yeah the fourth is the highlight of this episode so uh I don't even know where you where you begin explaining what awkward even means otherworldly ghosts demons there's so many occult elements in our culture that I don't know at the beginning it probably begins in the other way yes it does uh I know it's a subject that fascinates you as well have you gotten to reading the other


you as well have you gotten to reading the other movies yourselves yes how did they start it so let me put the other way in chanakya was a person who studied and he wrote it was only three with us so one of the readings so one of the scholars said uh regulate somewhere where actually the original beta the fourth got added you know a lot of people don't believe in it that is a personal choice but in our country even today the awkward practices happen okay they are dark they are you know under current but they do happen where do they happen so they happen in lot of families and I have seen a lot of politicians using it really of course and let me tell you next time when you have elections going around you'll be surprised these politicians used lot of the soccer practices because they're in the power game yeah let's let's just talk about tantrisism yeah is it correct to say that racism is an awkward practice yes there are elements of


is an awkward practice yes there are elements of occult in Tantra what is Tantra what is the word so there are Mantra yantra and Tantra mantras what we spoke about which are the words to invoke blessings or frequencies what's a yantra yantra is an instrument like a weapon or yeah even uh let's say you know we have some instrument that we use so that is yantra like for example mobile phone you say yantra you can invoke goddess Lakshmi through that what is Lakshmi means wealth Well yeah if you want to be powerful especially with money money is wealth power what do you say the equivalent in the modern day are these like crystals and Tantra is the process right speaking about crystals I've never understood the exact logic but I will say this that the first time I ever saw a crystal shop in Goa it was a tiny horrible looking show but I was just so drawn to it I didn't know why this is crystals hold some sort of positive vibe and


is crystals hold some sort of positive vibe and they're supposed to have different purposes we've kept some here some in my room and I do feel it changes the energy of it does it does your space um but that's a yantra and this is one for I'm sure like a um yes it is uh what does a rudraksha do like why does it mean if you look at pyramids being kept in many places they attract energies okay like you mean Egypt and the Mayan pyramids not only that I think any triangular structure you must have seen lot of houses in India having pyramids being kept I mean even many temples yes yes yes maybe there are some if you look at the kalash the top of the temple they're in a particular format made of certain metals so next time you go to a temple a good ancient architectural Temple you'll be surprised you'll have a kalash on the top again the reason science doesn't agree with all this is because it hasn't been enough


with all this is because it hasn't been enough scientific resources done about this I'm sure if you go and measure the electromagnetism there you might find some differences I mean we've just not seen enough research yet because we're not looking at it scientifically till our parents generation when we went to a temple it was matter of Faith but today it's a matter of logic to look at all the temple architecture logically scientifically and measure it it's actually Energy Management okay okay uh are you familiar with rudrakshas yes what is the purpose as you know is a seed of a tree and you know it is generally connected with Lord Shiva so we call him a rudra uttar and you know shuji and their bhaktas use rudraksha a lot and it has been proven scientifically also that people who do chanting on rudraksha Mala actually get those energies in fact there are cases where they wear the rudrakshmara also get those energies uh you mean like you get the blessings of


uh you mean like you get the blessings of Shiva mantra's blessings just by wearing a rudra from meditating upon it able to attract it better yes and don't make it a style Icon lot of people like to wear it and show it off that's not the point yes you can also show it off you can wear it it's like you know saying that let's say you keep an ice on your body it does have an effect on your body and the mind also cooling effect in the same way all these yantras actually have an effect on your body also yeah like in Islam there's Tavis is concept it's probably the same thing it's it's a form of a yantra yes what I do want to ask you is black magic like things like kalajado where uh I mean you know you always hear of these stories even in cities where someone's given someone else like a pendant to wear or something to wear like a bracelet to wear and then stuff starts going wrong for that person like I actually had


starts going wrong for that person like I actually had a cousin who had an experience with someone had given him a bracelet to wear and he started getting horrible injuries and eventually someone from his uh mom's side of the family told him that why are you wearing that they were able to spot something in that bracelet and uh kind of made him take it off and did like a bit of a some some kind of a Puja on him he claims that his life got much better after that but uh that would be like a yantra used for something negative negative yes but you know when you do so-called on someone is there some sort of a gain for you as the practitioner of but that's a selfish gain so you're trying to destroy somebody else for your benefit and a lot of people still do that especially those people who are jealous don't want the other person to succeed in fact what I like about you especially your generation is very collaborative if you like to work with another YouTuber you


if you like to work with another YouTuber you don't feel insecure say that okay let me work with this guy let me help him or her and she may indirectly or directly help you also so I would say go beyond competition you know in uh a few Generations ago there was a theory called survival of the fittest so if you succeed I am at loss so how do I make you go down so one of this is awkward practices but luckily for Our Generation it is teamwork if you succeed I am happy and you are success may lead to my success so I think this is a very negative way that's why it's called tamasik Vidya not a very great thing but you are right I also know of cases sometimes when you go on the road be careful next time you will see some lemon being there or maybe some you know vegetable with some colors around it and all Don't Go Near it you mean like a plastic bag yes really yeah don't even go behind it


bag yes really yeah don't even go behind it you never know what they have invoked and put it on the road you see this a lot in Indian cities oh especially tired to cities really like you just see some food lying down on there you know closed plastic bag I've always assumed that someone's left it for beggars to eat no no no you never know so something which is unknown because what power they have put into that you don't know what is what is the way to protect yourself against black magic is it just a spiritual path and meditation very beautiful question and I'll tell you a simple answer your spiritual Guru can save you from black magic so suppose you get that feeling that you know somebody is trying this on you you should have a guru or at least go and chant some positive mantra I know of an example where a person actually it was in a western culture okay this particular person in their particular country was using black magic and immediately he did not know what to do


magic and immediately he did not know what to do and you know in the western culture they use cross as a positive example so you over the cross and started chanting you know the the name of the hymns of Jesus believe me he came out so the way to attack negativity is not used more negativity but stay positive and if you have a guru you know there are a lot of signs you start getting nightmares so nightmares if you get what you do and if it is continuously getting repeated I know of a key as a child you used to get up at one o'clock in the night continuously and used to scream and this child maybe one day two day it was looking like a nightmare and the mother and the father got really worried and the child was hardly four years old so she could not express what the problem was that so they went to doctors and they went to psychologists and as there is a beautiful saying when allopathy doesn't work when Homeopathy doesn't work then


allopathy doesn't work when Homeopathy doesn't work then tirupati works so they went to this family priest in India every particular family will have a priest it is called Kura Guru not cool Guru Kula Guru and the kuluguru solid sensing is somebody is using some black magic against this child and those are real case so what is the solution so they say no let us do this particular Puja so they did a counter thing not against that person to make that negativity come back and believe me after that Puja was completed that whole nightmare started going away and she could sleep peacefully do dreams and nightmares hold any significance in our culture 100 in our Indian culture it is very clear that what you dream is actually part of your being okay let me break that down so there's a concept called which means that anyone's body or anyone's sense of self is made up of three parts yes the physical body uh which is the um the astral body which is sort of your ghost yeah that


astral body which is sort of your ghost yeah that is the sukhma sharir and the current Sharif which is your causal body or your soul it's just yes okay and this whole concert is called Sharif yeah so now continue sir so it's related to the astral body that's what you're trying to say yes yes okay so your body is not only this body today we have our readings also so they're colors of Aura in fact now in the Western World they have started discovering instruments to measure with aura okay so if you are a satwik person more on the spiritual side you know there is an element we can measure it's more white in color if you are a darker side you can make out so Lord I have met sages Mahatma by looking at your body they can tell you that you are not a nice person or a nice person like for example you know certain people when you meet you don't connect to them because they're saying The Vibes don't match what do you mean by


The Vibes don't match what do you mean by wipes the thought process doesn't match somewhere you feel you know repels you or sometimes you feel attracted and that's why it's very important to know that you know this area are all interrelated so coming back to your dreams it's actually what you believe yourself and what you think about in the daytime when you are awake it is a reflection of what you see in the night time okay so that's why the counter to it is positive affirmations the law of attraction so if you change the affirmations you know even our culture we call it mantras okay so if you use it all these negative thoughts will go away and you become a positive person sort of like the gym for your soul yes absolutely mental gym you know let's end with one uh kind of question I've had for a while recently which is the spine and its role in our culture its role in spiritualism people don't understand how important a roll your spine and your


understand how important a roll your spine and your back plays in your own spiritual growth parallely let's briefly speak about Kundalini as well so uh would I don't know would you like to begin so that is my current topic of research Kundalini Kundalini and spine let's let's kind of give the listener some perspective if someone doesn't know anything about what we're talking about the spine in Indian culture is called as meru danda okay means the center danda means your spine which is like a danda or a bone you'll be surprised if you are they say if your spine is fit you are healthy that's why the biggest and the most perfect exercise according to Indian culture or yoga is Surya namaskar and there are people whom I know and probably you must have heard who do 108 Surya namaskars per day what is the most human the whole body get exercised but most about the spine so today research has been done about spine being you know being the most


been done about spine being you know being the most important part of your body and also the gut it's not just the brain all these are interconnected coming back to Kundalini there are seven chakras it starts from below and it goes up till here but it's all through the spinal root so they're very subtle you can't see them but the westerners have already started doing research on that yeah I think it coincides with important uh organs and glands in your body for example your throat chakra is at the same place as your thyroid glands uh your third eye chakras at the same place as your penial gland yes uh your heart chakras are the same trees as your heart solar plexus is at the same place as your stomach yes at the same place as your uh intestine your gut yeah and your sex chakra your lowest chakras are the same place as your sex organ yes uh so that's the kind of uh uh Western analogy in fact since you bought out my


Western analogy in fact since you bought out my health issue you know actually I was advised by a spiritual Guru that my uh solar plexus has to be you know invocated so I used to do pranayama every day and the day I threw up actually all my toxins came out and the chakra got clear so it's detoxification so sometimes sickness is good um yeah that's why when you know you fall ill when there's a change of seasons yes a lot of people look down upon that thought they say it's unsigned how can you say that the change of season actually makes you fall in either way it says that it does it's basically your body getting detoxified detoxified releasing your toxins through your sneezing absolutely absolutely so the elements goes away and it purifies you and Kundalini shastra is part of yoga shastra Kundalini sastras I'm assuming a mystical element yes yoga yes yes Kundalini is supposed to be a pool of energy that's hidden inside


to be a pool of energy that's hidden inside every human every human being uh and they say that at the moment of moksh at the moment you achieve Nirvana your Kundalini Rises through your spine and joins with your third eye chakra and that's kind of the next human form like when we think that we have reached our final state of evolution there is one more stage but I want to tell you a story about this I know of a highly evolved management Guru okay and he was in Gujarat very great motivational speaker he was and one day he was dead so when the wife went to him immediately in the morning he was lying dead she called the doctor so the doctor analyzed everything he's no more but the analysis given from a western standpoint was that you know he had a brain hemorrhage but the wife did not accept it saying that now I know the reason of his death so the wife was telling me actually one Yogi had told him when he was alive that


Yogi had told him when he was alive that you will get Moksha and you will die in a spiritual state of mind so from a western perspective the whole blood came in you know he had this brain hemorrhage and that's why he died but from a spiritual angle that's the Kundalini that awoke and he left through this particular part and let me tell you friends if you look at all small babies have you touched there this part of it a very soft if you have a baby less than one year in your family just hold the baby and touch this part you'll be surprised this particular skull over here has got a pathway to enter and exit so if you can exit your Prana through this particular path your Kundalini has awakened and you'll be 100 get more in Hindu culture every God brings their own blessings for example if you pray to hanumanji you're supposed to get gain strength gain humility gain mental strength and stability uh if you pray to Shiva


strength and stability uh if you pray to Shiva uh you gain power you gain a sense of Detachment uh when you pray to Mata or the mother God in Hinduism one Whatever understood is you're supposed to pray to her for extremely lofty material gains if you want to gain power if you want to have that next big jump in your life but two if you're going to pray to her you need to understand that it's energy that cannot be handled by everyone this is what I have understood and you have to work your way up you can't just directly pray to you probably pray to other gods first and then earn your right to pray to her uh some people naturally sense sort of uh and attraction to praying to Mata so I'll explain that to you yeah in the bhagavad-gita chapter 17 talks about this Mata energy not exactly Mata but the kind of a prayers you do okay so they say the satwik people the pure Souls pray to Gods so everything is about


pure Souls pray to Gods so everything is about let's say hanumanji ramji and all those things but the people in between who are rajasek who want Power will pray to demigods not gods they are not fully Gods but they're not fully human beings also but they have certain powers there's nothing wrong in being sick it depends on no it depends on your nature and the last is called tamasik they'll pray to ghost they'll pray to dead bodies so the people who are actually wanting the lowest Powers that's where their sexuality part of it they practice all these in smashan in lot of you know negative places where if you are a pure person you go you cannot connect but if you want to evolve it's better to start by praying to the gods because that is the satic one but there are people in the society who pray to demigods why do you think this prayer to Mata fits in is it is it so it again depends on which math are you in working okay


again depends on which math are you in working okay so you know there are so many people within Devi is also there are formats like you know Tantra is a part of Devi Puja also so certain Davies can give you that what is the element of your own parents in Hindu culture that's what I love about India that it celebrates Parenthood so much which is why we don't live very clear in fact we're talking about Vedas in fact opening shirts you should study the upanishad is a very interesting upanishad for Young Generation students in that he says after you pass out graduation ceremony you should pray to four people throughout your life foreign but if somebody comes and rings the bell you don't like it why have you come but he may be coming in a Gods format or a god may be coming in his format so sometimes unplanned guests can be an opportunity for Success so the importance in our Indian culture is that parents mother is your first Guru father is your second


parents mother is your first Guru father is your second Guru teacher in the school college or gurukul is a third Guru and anybody and everybody who comes is your Guru forever Mahabharata says this you know the downfall of the mighty so there is a question being asked why do the Mighty Fall because they have not respected elders and if you respect Elders a common man can also become a billionaire or a successful person rkp so another fantastic episode more to go yeah uh don't have much to say to you I said the same thing to Luke coutinho there's nothing I could say to you that I've not already said so thank you for being on the show again what I ask the listeners and the viewers to do is drop your comments what other topics would you like us to break down arcade pieces and All-Star on TRS and he's going to be back any last message for the viewers so study your own scriptures okay this is a lot to unpack Lords you're only looking


is a lot to unpack Lords you're only looking at the tip of the iceberg deep within all that we are covering is nothing but our own great Indian culture and I would go to the extent of telling you know it's a global culture yeah across the globe wherever you are listening to this particular show try to study the wisdom of the ages and you will be a different person with a purpose thank you once again so that was the episode for today one of the practices that we've begun on this podcast is that we cut it into clips and we upload it on our highlights Channel and TRS Clips as a channel has even more content sometimes than the actual podcast because the podcast we tailor make for the podcast audience so if you want even more knowledge you've got to go check out the RS Clips as for this conversation there's nothing about Dr rkp that I haven't already said I want you guys to tell me in the comment section DM me tell me what other topics you'd like


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the best part of an ak is a guy in class 3 can be taught how to disassemble it and reassemble it in 5 minutes it's a simple very very simple weapon and because of its simplicity or the working principle it is very very easy to handle it there's no danger of wild animals like crocodiles if it's crocodile infested you'll have prior warnings preferably it will not like to but if it's hungry if it sees you alone it might i enjoy every single conversation with military veterans but i look forward to my para sf conversations the para sf are the special forces of the indian army the commandos who supposedly the most efficient unit within the indian military only sent for very specific very difficult missions the beauty of para sf veterans is that when they leave the military they go down very varied trajectories and often these trajectories are very adventurous this particular podcast is possibly my favorite one of 2022. i mean it and if you listen to the entire podcast


it and if you listen to the entire podcast you'll understand why this is major avenue on the runway show talking about life as a para sf soldier life as a para asf veteran all his experiences the weapons the skills the perspectives that he gained over his military career extremely enriching conversation there's very few conversations that i get this excited about uploading on youtube and this is one of them i hope you enjoy it more conversations like this make sure you follow us on spotify very spotify exclusive which means that every episode's available on spotify 48 hours before it's available anywhere else in the world i'd also nudge you to check out trs clips our highlights channel for this particular podcast we have to cut the podcast slightly we can't put the full length podcast on this channel but the clips are always unfiltered so you'll get even more content on the clips channel please go check it out this is major avinash sani with the episode of the year for me [Music] major


the episode of the year for me [Music] major amino acid welcome to the ranvi show thank you for letting me come here and i am actually privileged to you know have a chance to come and talk to you and here we are let's see uh sir so honestly i always look forward to these sf conversations i look forward to all military conversations but when i talk to sf people i'm trying to say this in like a very polite way but you guys are crazy so i enjoy it a lot that's what i'll say it's all relative though something which is crazy for normal people maybe it's normal for us every single special forces veteran that i meet is a book like you can open them up and there are not just military experiences there's just uh again i'm not saying i'm saying this in a very respectful way but there's a very warped different perspective on life it's good now yeah it's it's the most beautiful person like as a podcaster sf conversations are the


person like as a podcaster sf conversations are the ones i want the most i'm looking forward to marcos as well uh because i've heard that they're in a similar mold yes um have you met anyone oh i've had fantastic uh affiliation with marcos because i was a combat diver one once again so you gotta give or the audience context on what marcos are see marco stands for marine commandos okay they were raised with a specific aim to conduct special operations in water and on the beach if required they will have to go into the hinterland and do the operations as well so the way we train and you know make ourselves expert in insertions on land they train in water correct me if i'm wrong so but after your nda you get to choose army navy air force no it is when you join the nda okay you have an option to choose okay whether you would like to go for air force because there are limited seats the number of seats for the army guys are more air force


seats for the army guys are more air force come and it is the the least in the case of navy and uh everyone who goes through navy has an option to become a marco yes okay if you want if you if you if you want to volunteer for it and if you can pass the test or the standard yes and it's similar to sf like the standards yes they're equally difficult but the only thing is they are water heavy gotcha you have to do you know drowning tests and your hands and legs are tired you have to do 50 meter swim and underwater so many meters swim and you know you have to do water trading floating in water with weight and all which we also did some bit of it in our diving course combat diving course so their focus is water insertion water operations do you notice personality differences in the guys who go for navy or air force versus the guys who go for army like i mean it's a very rookie question but no


i mean it's a very rookie question but no no it's not it's not the question is not rookie see the army guys can choose bachelor of arts in india bachelor of science and bachelor of science computers special the air force and the naval guys have to be bsc or bsc com they cannot opt ba because their curriculum is such when they're reading about ships and aircrafts you'll have to know the signs okay roll your pitch palana principle you know bernoulli's principle this principle that principle you will have to know all these things which we knew till 12th but then amin does not require so much of technical expertise not all of them but in navy and air force you will have to i would like to know one about early learnings in your career as a special forces uh soldier but if you could describe the operation like one of your early operations nothing like it the first operation took in a part you know which cannot be brought into the you know mainstream so i


be brought into the you know mainstream so i will not be able to discuss but apart from that to be very honest i've never had a full kind of contact you know when we had the information we went looking for somebody i had fleeting moments the fire came from somewhere you replied back it went on for 15-20 minutes nobody was hurt neither on our side nor not on their side because i said um i've said in other platforms that in a jungle scenario it will take you around 10 minutes to orient you know who is firing whether it is your friendly fire or somebody because the most preferred weapon there is aka kalashnikov the sound is the same when you hear what's the difference uh between the aks yeah so they're all licensed aks only so each country has small little modifications but the basic working principle and the magazines are all the same the metallurgy is different and the accuracy is a bit different in the weapons the public assumption because of maybe counter-strike honestly is


public assumption because of maybe counter-strike honestly is that it's one of the best weapons out it is okay it is are they better guns than that again it's you know relative there are a few parameters on which you rate a gun or a rifle the important ones could be accuracy recoil reliability ease of handling so but if you see when was it made the weapon aka kalashnikov it was in 1947. i wouldn't say it was made in 47 i i would say it came in it was acknowledged or recognized in 47 so ak-47 you know after automatic kalashnikov the man who made him made it and 47. the best part of an ak is a guy in class 3 can be taught how to disassemble it and reassemble it in 5 minutes it's a simple very very simple weapon and because of its simplicity or the working principle it is very very easy to handle it in field condition if something goes wrong you can know what's gone wrong and it doesn't generally does not go wrong


wrong and it doesn't generally does not go wrong because the metallurgy is also very very superior the russian metallurgy and the working principle is so simple that you don't have stoppages you don't have complications wherein the weapon is not firing or the firing pin is broken or there's gas fouling in the weapon or this double feet that does not happen like anything that goes wrong with other weapons often doesn't go wrong with this so too many parts when they are put together one small little glitch somewhere will put the complete system to rest that does not happen with ak have you been in hand to hand combat situations i generally avoid hand to hand because i am scared of myself because when i get angry i used to get angry and when i would throw a punch on the elmira still elmer i would see a dent not a big dent but i would see a dent and i wouldn't and i would feel nothing on my knuckles because of the conditioning that i


on my knuckles because of the conditioning that i had so i'm being very honest i'm actually scared if there's a scuffle or an altercation and if it graduates to a fight i'm scared if i punch somebody he might lose his life so i don't want to get into an ugly situation i generally avoid that the last time i fought was in nda but then in operations has been no no no no if you are getting into a situation wherein you are hand to hand that means you are you failed okay because of high efficiency and special forces and when you have a weapon system that can throw a projectile from this place to somebody who's hiding or sitting in that place why would you like to go and get in get into hand to hand combat what is respected in the world of sf indian s7 what is not respected like what is looked down upon versus what is looked up to looked up to is again being decisive being honest being somebody who can


being decisive being honest being somebody who can become a part of the team i've always been saying this if you cannot lead a team become a good team member contribute to the team everything is about the team six guys and i and i can assure you i can take on 30 guys not that i'll kill those 30 guys i can stay survive in a firefight but then these six guys should be you know one good cohesive team our skills should complement the team in each other our proficiency of weapons that we would be carrying that time should complement the team and it is all about teamwork i do know that sf has a very strong element of brotherhood and love for the team uh what what goes on in your head are you in all action mode are you in all decision mode i've been very fortunate none of my boys have been hit were hit when we were operating the boys who were hit were from a different organization but under the umbrella of the indian army so


but under the umbrella of the indian army so what do you understand about that level of pain that's a gruesome injury where your guts have like fallen out but pain is very much there but you know there are so many things happening the pain is there your body has gone into shock so much of adrenaline has come out you know oozed out inside your body so that takes away some amount of pain the medics have injected you morphines that takes care of some amount of pain what i have understood speaking to the veterans i mean not not the veterans the people who were in cargill and all because my as a mine was a new raising i had jesus and ncos from all the units they they said me that there were people who were hit in the evening during cargill and they survived in the morning not in the you know chest or head but they had injuries and they would say it was more of the spirit somebody was like okay i've been hit


the spirit somebody was like okay i've been hit it's okay i've been given my painkillers i've been given the iv to take care of the blood pressure and there are people who are in and around me i've got the emotional support and i'm not dying he survives um have you had any experiences again not in combat in combat outside of combat but you yourself have been very close to death or any kind of accident or something like that i'm a very safe kind of driver i believe vehicles are meant to try to transport us from place to place b so no accidents i'm a very particular kind of guy in the firing range uh i abide by the rules essential rules so never in the firing range diving i've been in brahmaputra i've been in different lakes channels death no my set is never malfunctioned i have jumped out of the aircraft so many times again god has been very kind no emergencies what about those dives that you spoke about like first of all


those dives that you spoke about like first of all why is it required to dive in a river is it training no one was rescue diving in brahmaputra the boat capsized and i mean it's called rescue diving but then you can't rescue somebody after eight hours no if people have gone into the water they're gone they've lost their lives so it was more of a uh i'll say management of the situation when you could at least console the relatives that we're trying to actually find the bodies though the bodies are never found they're found 40 kilometers downstream i just hold on just to get this clarity there are people who try committing suicide by jumping into reverse what is the logic of actually diving in a river like how do you prevent because that's a very dangerous uh environment because i'm a diver no i i've been trained to dive into the water wearing you said how does someone pass away in a river like i'm because the force of the river is incredible i'm


because the force of the river is incredible i'm assuming that it makes you hit a rock okay that's what causes actual no no see if you ask me and if you throw me into the water even if i don't swim i can just stay afloat and i would be found 40 50 60 kilometers downstream and i won't die because i can breathe while i'm afloat the only way you die in in a river kind of situation is when you drown and how do you drown because you you don't know how to swim or you don't know how to float you keep yourself you know floating on the water by trading water trading it's a very simple skill which i learned showing early in life this just learning how to float it's just about moving your hands and legs and having the right amount of air in the water in the chest okay even if i don't move my hands and legs i'll still float so deep breathing you your lungs have a residual capacity of what six liters six