and an example of that to explain that is like you know if i go on tour and i play a show to 6 000 people and everybody's going nuts then like you feel very famous right when you get off stage you feel like top of the world you feel like holy crap and then like you know maybe two weeks later you're like just at home and you know it's just a quiet day and maybe it's friday night and all your friends are busy and you know you're just like bored and alone and you're like like what the heck you know then you feel like so it's like that has happened to me you know so you have days when and then on those days i don't feel famous i just feel like so it's a very like it's it's a confusing thing i mean it you know definitely throws you off uh how it's affected my like thought process is really hard to say man again i i don't think i'm like self and aware enough to answer that question i'm sure


and aware enough to answer that question i'm sure i have changed you know i it's it's everybody changes anyway every year so it's unlikely that in the past five years from where i was to where i am today i have not changed how i've changed is really hard to say okay coming to the third point of the question or the second point i don't remember which one it was second point what has the coronavirus lockdown done for you as a creative professional what's it changed in you or as a human being the creative professional part just as a person what's a change one it's been a almost like a forced holiday actually and i think in a good way in the sense that it's actually centered me a lot you know i've put in a lot of like consistent like uh practices that i used to follow in the early part of my career which is just like being healthy and eating healthy and sleeping well a big factor of that is also because i started you know uh like last year i you know


started you know uh like last year i you know started dating who i'm dating right now my girlfriend and like that has also helped a lot in like all of this and we've both helped stabilize kind of each other but also because of the lockdown because it's kind of forced me to like slow down and just stop you know traveling like a crazy person and like just being constantly overwhelmed by things that are happening and and i am like that i respond to stimuli so like if 20 things are happening around me work wise i want to do all of them and i want to make sure all of them happen on time and all of them happen really well so stuff just stopped happening you know for the first two months especially it was all dead like you know nobody was working and there was no expectation so that kind of like forced me to slow down which is good and in a way and i just hope it doesn't continue like this because then i'll just never do with my


like this because then i'll just never do with my life but you know hopefully like it's one of those things that's like kind of just gotten me ready for the next phase of my life i feel like you know when things get busy again i i'll be physically mentally and emotionally in a better space to be able to deal with those challenges so yeah i hope uh you know i feel like i mean and the optimistic side of me wants to believe that like that's what the lockdown has done for me yeah um dude honestly i was having this weird kind of feeling for the last two weeks i discussed it with my co-founder as well now while i was a young entrepreneur like a younger entrepreneur like i was like between 22 and 25 i'd kind of look at people who had these theories on nihilism and existential crisis moments and and just say that yo i just feel that maybe you don't have a solid goal you're working towards and that was like my kind of escape


working towards and that was like my kind of escape that okay i want to build these companies and i want to build these youtube channels or whatever uh as i'm growing up and as that you know great money is increasing fame is increasing numbers are increasing okay at the same time i'm giving more and more of myself to my work more and more of my emotions to the art we're creating as time is passing by and recently in the lockdown while it's been amazing for me i've discovered a lot of things about myself picked up new skills meditated a lot more i do have these questions about why am i doing this job you know what what am i working towards what's the meaning of all this like why do people consciously take up entrepreneurship of being a youtuber if it's this intense when you know if i go to a beach and i meet a guy who sells coconuts there and he seems like the happiest guy in the world if everything that we work


guy in the world if everything that we work for is centered around the concept of happiness why as an entrepreneur youtuber do you have to go so hard in the paint and my answer to that has just been the start of this podcast where we spoke about you yourself being a channel for art and even entrepreneurship is art in a lot of ways dude you have to think of business strategies you have to create things i just feel that okay if god or the universe has selected me as that guy i have to just serve my purpose as a channel for growth of other people growth of like this art to happen which is my question to you dude what's your answer to that question why does pratikuat exist in this world what are you working on i don't know man again this is like you know it's a golden question i mean you know i have uh and i've had this like doubt in my head like all the time like every now and then it's just you know it's


every now and then it's just you know it's definitely happened to me in the lockdown after a while because i feel like the past year and a half was so busy that things just went in a blur and then when i slowed down i was like you know and you have so much time to think that your brain goes to all kinds of places and then you're like you know do i want to keep doing this like i mean the other day i was talking to my girlfriend and i was like man let's seriously just like go to you know and she's a doctor so she can like you know you know work anywhere in the sense she can go and like she'll find a job in a hospital anywhere uh so i'm like you know let's just move to the hills and like get a place and like grow some vegetables and just just let's say let's do that for two years and i see i seriously considered it that one day i was like let me just like you know


day i was like let me just like you know chill out for a little bit that's like the i mean it's a question of that people have asked for like millions of years right like why do we exist why do we do what we do i don't i don't know if it's the uh and and actually the way i like to think of it is that you know uh to me almost like the goal of my life is not happiness a lot of people feel like uh you know feel like that and they for a lot of people the ultimate goal is like to be a happy person and i don't think it's that simple because from what i've always seen i feel like happiness is a really fleeting feeling sometimes it's like really good for a day and you know you feel it in moments it's it's not that simple i don't know what motivates us but like it's kind of like a gut thing you know and i go with it because it's kind of like a gut thing it


because it's kind of like a gut thing it just feels like this is the direction i need to go in and that's where like i don't have an answer and you know one possible answer is what you said that like we're all just like meant to be a vessel and like we're meant to be do certain things because you know we are meant to do that and we are meant to help people or whatever it's all supposed to happen and you know that i'm i'm not quite i don't know i mean i don't that makes me feel a bit odd because i feel like i'm kind of powerless and this is just kind of happening and i don't like that because i also like to feel responsible for my actions i feel like you know everything that has happened for me and around me is because also i really pushed towards it and like i worked hard for it so there's a part of me that you know you know wants to believe that but there's also a


know wants to believe that but there's also a part of me which feels like you know so many of those things would have never happened i mean just purely by my hard hard work there was definitely like i'm definitely had like luck or whatever you want to call it on this a lot of things happen by chance a lot of things happened because they just kind of happened and it's whack and i have no explanation for it so it's i don't know you know it's i i don't know how to answer [Music] this question in that sense if that makes sense no i i completely hear you man and which is also why uh i've started thinking so much more about both romantic and family relationships because i feel that that also fills that void a little bit we are like maybe maybe my purpose is to be there for this particular soul or these particular souls that that could be a part of the purpose but when i i study this question from a spiritual perspective and


i study this question from a spiritual perspective and take a deep dive into these heavy spiritual books the answers i get there are slightly different where they talk about having your career and life purpose and then also spiritual purpose and usually when your job is creative and again that could even be business where you are creating something for the world uh you you do achieve your spiritual purpose partly through your job so do it for example just cold mess again like i'm giving you my own example i was going through like a really really tough situation in my love life and uh that song while it hurt me a lot it did leave me slightly more healed you know sometimes like just to kind of make sense with pain you'll try hurting yourself more just to feel it completely and then you'll be like cool cold mess has been that for a lot of people and maybe that was your purpose dude like this art that came out through you kind of is helping a lot of people out there so uh what's


a lot of people out there so uh what's your last like kind of life learning do it from all this because you're a super deep guy so what's what's like your last bit of you know i don't i don't want to call it advice but what's your last vibe you want to leave the world with i don't know what i mean you know uh it's just like i mean i mean all the questions you've asked me that like i'm just giving you like answers of you know like personal answers you know i'm just being like how i think about those things and it's just uh yeah i don't think of myself as like a deep person or anything uh it's just uh it's weird right like i mean things just happen and then you just kind of like go with it i guess a lot of it is just that i i don't know how else to say it sounds really like silly but it it you i feel like i just go with things actually to say beyond a certain


go with things actually to say beyond a certain point like however much planning there is and you know i react to things mostly in the sense like okay today this has happened let's do this yeah but also i feel you have a strong sense of discipline planning uh you know professionalism perfectionism if you want to call it that so i think that's your modesty speaking up dude you don't you don't acknowledge yourself for that which also brings me to my absolute final question how can a young kid become the next pratik kuhard like how do you become the next prathiko hardwood other than the professionalism and perfectionism factor you should do what you want when everybody has a different path you know everybody has a different like way of getting where they do and and that's the key actually i think i think it's like you have to really you should probe within as much as you can and get to know yourself really well so that you can make the right decisions for yourself and


you can make the right decisions for yourself and it's a and you know getting other people's advice and following examples is a great thing i've done that myself i've read like people's biographies who i've respected and what they've done but i i've never like uh aped anything in the sense like i've never just like done something and applied it to my life just because it worked for somebody else but i've applied it if i feel like it works for me so it's like you know like you read stories of 10 people and you feel like you know that's one habit that's great that's another habit that's great that's another one and out of those like 10 habits you read about you only apply two to the yourself maybe because that's what's applicable for you in your context in your life and what your your needs and your desires and your strengths and your weaknesses and it's really important to be self-aware i think because only when you're self-aware can you make the right decision for yourself


self-aware can you make the right decision for yourself and uh you need to just be a bit gutsy because the other problem is that even if you are self-aware a lot of people are too driven by what other people say and what other people push them to do and the kind of world we live in like we will always have people around us who will push us in directions whether it's like friends or family or like your teachers or society or what you read or propaganda whatever the heck you know so it's it's like at some level again you take all of that as feedback and information but it's really important to like look deep within and be absolutely sure that you're doing what you want to do and not what like somebody else wants you to do 100 uh do you have any last tips on how one can become more self aware i think it's like a practice you get do uh in the sense it's a it's a process you get better at it the more you do of it you


better at it the more you do of it you you know to become more self-aware you first of all have to i i guess you know acknowledge the fact that you might not be self-aware because a lot of times people don't change because they don't think they need to so you know i'm still all the time questioning myself even till today that like you know what i'm doing and how i'm doing it is it you know coming from the right place or not and am i getting influenced by the right people am i in the right surroundings you're always questioning and it's laborious a lot of people don't do it because it's hard i mean you don't want to like get up every day with a doubt in your head because it's like it sucks you know you want to just feel like good about things and everything is great but the moment you ask those hard questions it causes some turmoil within but it's important to like let that turmoil happen and only then can you actually like


turmoil happen and only then can you actually like reach the you know kind of like the crux of the problem or actually so i think self-awareness is just kind of like comes from self-awareness i guess it's a bit of a weird you know what i'm saying like it has to be built you build stamina for self-awareness i i mean this just popped in my head after you answered the question i feel that you do become self-aware through questioning other people about the that's going on in your head dude for example this podcast was a version of how i became more self-aware by asking you my existentialism questions and and so did i actually yeah so i just guess that you know questioning and asking like the questions you're embarrassed to ask or the questions you think are stupid enough but other people are thinking about those things as well for sure and and the other harder part is obviously observing your own mind through things like vipassana and irritation and all that all that definitely


and irritation and all that all that definitely helps dude because you're basically closing your eyes and senses and all those senses are turning inwards and like staring at your own thoughts a lot of people don't meditate because they're like yo i see too much negativity in my meditation are you all that's the negativity that you're confronting and that's leaving you so it's important yeah i guess that's my answer but mr prathik kuhar thank you brother this was a lot of fun dude i didn't expect to go down these roads i was gonna ask a lot more about music but i'm glad we did this yeah for sure it was really fun guys i'm gonna be linking all of pratik's handles channels everything down below make sure you check out a lot of his music heal yourselves and enjoy the love that is expressing itself through this man pratik thank you for being here bro


the joy Bravo that's right DJ Bravo is a guest on the runway show today super fun human being balanced with a lot of discipline that's what it's taken for him to become a legend of the modern game of cricket if you're a cricket fan you're definitely gonna enjoy this episode because I've made DJ Brauer do a lot of fun things through the course of the episode but even if you're not a cricket fan you'll get an insight into what it's like being an international level not even athlete an international level legend you'll also get some insight into the chill Caribbean mindset in a world full of mental health issues DJ Bravo's mentality stands out he says that he's never faced any kind of pressure any kind of mental health issues despite representing his own country at a very high level for a long period of time he's someone you can learn from a lot as a human being and very crucially he's also carrying his athlete mentality into the rest of his life he's


athlete mentality into the rest of his life he's near the end of his career and at this stage he's venturing out into the world of entrepreneurship into the world of music into the world of investments this and a lot more is coming your way on the runway show special episode with DJ Bravo [Music] what's good everybody welcome to the runway show I've been a lifelong Mumbai Indians fan so in season one two three my hero was drain brow you're still my hero brother you're all of India's hero I want to ask you the first question how often when you come to India do you get asked who's your favorite Indian actress I get it a lot but my favorite is always Deepika one answer Deepika what else do you get asked often when you're in India because we kind of consider you India now if I can speak Hindi no no okay just a few words and you know if I love India obviously I do love India so typical basic FL of Indian food and all


India so typical basic FL of Indian food and all these questions yeah nice you know when you go to a new country the first thing you usually learn is the cuss words right like the galleys yeah I wanna teach me I watch and I observe when I see on TV I act so clear what does he say and then they explained to me that oh wow okay okay dad fine on set like when I shoot in a champion video yeah everything take over take over take over all bad should you know when you guys had beaten us in the semi-final of the t20 World Cup that was held in India yeah the whole country cheered for you after you beat India that's how much Indians love the West Indies I think it's like a second team you know it's yang West Indies team is every country's second provision after their national team and what what stood out for us that at that time in 2016 after beaten India and knocked the most of the semi-final in one Kili the entire one


of the semi-final in one Kili the entire one Kili stand up on chair and started clapping and that was crazy they know you you're not a team oh not only a team but the big team is nothing more than their own background and then the entire crowd to the Maryland started clapping and support anyone as I said true out moving on in the tournament we had the entire nation of India supporting us and supporting West Indies and not mean a lot to us because whenever we come to IPL you know we all represent different franchisees and but do we how we play the game the spirit to play the game and we are we entertain the fans I think I'm it separates us a bit from the other players you know not taking anything away from the other players corner brilliant performances but I guess the way ho we we live our life very free and don't care kind of way but at the same time we entertain people yeah so you know how I feel that when you're playing


so you know how I feel that when you're playing sport as a country you carry the vibe of your country into the sport so for example in India you know it's all about hustle hard work discipline so you see someone like v-rod Kohli come so what is that for Caribbean cricket like what y'all carry into the sport like what are the people carry into the sport so let us say we are very late Luck's kind of people so our life is beach party enjoy have fun so an entertain you know music festivals a lot of music shows take place in the Caribbean and yeah we have natural entertainers and we we honored it we some teams that develop on base on running between the wickets speed and agility and you know all these things we base on power yeah we have natural power we have speed and agility as well but we we like hitting sixes yeah the curl of sixes so as the reason why we dominate in a shorter format you know you said Caribbean people are


shorter format you know you said Caribbean people are relaxed but to be an international athlete I feel you need that little bit of edge you know to make it to your country so you play for Trinidad and Tobago versus Jamaica that's kind of your domestic competition yes but only few people get selected to play for the Windies yeah so my question to you is how do you balance that relaxed factor with something else what is that other thing you need to break out it's all in the video choice cause at the energy Day if you want something bad in life you know you have to sacrifice make sacrifice you know you have to set yourself and go after you have to be determined you have to want it and you know there's other people who will love those opportunities as well so it's who wanted Boylan - who want anymore yeah and yeah you just have to perform so one thing I've been very curious about growing up is that you know when you have that relaxed mentality as


you know when you have that relaxed mentality as someone from the Caribbean do you also have low moments like where you have self-doubt as an athlete do you have you know just a lot of tension in your mind about okay will I be dropped will you know I be able to perform like does that side also kick in for West Indies cricketer or not that happens to everyone yeah you always worry whether you do will be selected whether it be dropped but are you good enough whether you're not good enough personally for me I don't think of what he's thinking do you ever think about these things like before now forever it's always been relaxed right against OFI I'm always relaxed because I am always I'm a strong believer and what is the be will always be yeah so if I'm to be selected I will be selected if I'm to be chopped I would be job know if I'm going to perform I will perform like I live my life like that I have certain I trained


live my life like that I have certain I trained properly I be honest with myself and I prepare myself well so whenever I go there to perform I am full confidence and my ability that I'm going to perform yeah if I don't prepare well then I start second-guessing myself that's happened before no because I always prepare well but when you say you're honest with yourself like what do you mean like what do you do so if I have a tournament coming up I'll make sure I prepare for the tournament I train and I train specifically for the tournament depending on who I am coming up against I do research I visualize I do all of these things if I know how whichever team I come into play against I go to the game throughout the night before Wow days before leading up to the game and go through it in your mind like if in my mind and in practice I will try to bowl like if I'm coming up against you obviously in practice I'm not bowling against you I'll


in practice I'm not bowling against you I'll be bowling to one of my teammates I will visualize it's you button God so why Balto was like with a plan like I'm coming up against you the next day so for example about his Mumbai Indians after both the had a couple odd yeah and I'm born - MS Internet's I will set a feel if I'm born into heartache or polite God but try to execute it - MS you know so I prepare myself so when I turn up in the game I feel comfortable in my preparation and my ability and I trust my my would that you know I can deliver yeah sometimes they don't deliver but that's ok and I just accept that and move on so what happens in extremely high pressure situations where you beat my team you know you score those 4050 quick runs in the last IPL what happens in extremely high pressure situations where there's pressure on you single-handedly to make a team one because you back pretty deep you mole


a team one because you back pretty deep you mole late in the inning so you're always in high pressure situation here so what happens there in your mind just you live for those moments and III strive on competing against the best you know that when the best come out of me and especially in high seat I must situation pressure when a game is on the line IRA I like the responsibility of having the ball in my hand or the butt in my hand and those crunch moments because I buck myself all the time and I believe I can get a job done if the responsibility is with me if it isn't someone else and then I don't have full control but if it's in my hands and I have full control over what I can do and but like I said it or does the opportunity or the ball in my hand and the last of what doesn't guarantee a win right but I feel safer and I play the team's are wrong the world a lot of captains feel safer


wrong the world a lot of captains feel safer knowing that they have meet the ball a lot so bow in the back end of the innings and is this a self belief I have in myself that I can do incredible things yeah I think that self belief trickles down which is also senior member of all your teams so it trickles down to the whole squad like just when Jenna is playing we can see the little Bravo flare and like do in mind question to you now is your coming out with a song called chammiya and you know your music career is taking off in this country as well in India as well so what have you learned from cricket that you're applying to all these things you're doing outside of cricket um is this expanding my brand the DJ Bravo brand so yes I'm a professional cricketer and I could never take anything away from cricket cricket give me everything that I have achieve and my fan following is because I've crooked the love like I receive over here


I've crooked the love like I receive over here in India is because of what I have done in cricket so I accept that and appreciated it's just about the DJ Bravo brand so I have my clothing line I have now getting into music there's so much things I wanted to have my charities and all these stuff so music is a big part of my life and mini man yeah I guess you do some researcher so yeah bitty man is my favorite music artist and someone I idolize a lot and because of him I get into music my very first song was at him you know doing so you said that beanie man's been an idol of yours I know that Bryan law has been another huge Idol and growing up you said that you wanted to become the next Brian Lara yeah but you became the first Dwayne Bravo yeah do you ever think of that that you know wait now kids are looking at me and saying I want to be the next weigh-in Bravo I just live my life


the next weigh-in Bravo I just live my life very easy happy to try to you know we all here for a short period of time and at the moment I live you should have you should impact the world in a way in a positive way so I do it at cricket I'm trying to branch off in music so I just want to make people some people who can live their dream they must try to live their dream to me you know even a dancer do music like you must be inspired by seeing me like the way how I go about doing stuff what would you go and tell that nine-year-old ten-year-old doing now like you know when you go back what's the advice you'd give teenagers actually I think I live a very good straight on his life so like like I don't drink alcohol I don't gamble I don't smoke so there's nothing I could go back and tell Ateneo a little bit about mentality and your own version of you I what I had back then is what I had no


what I had back then is what I had no I'm still I'm still the same nothing changes like no maybe no I can't say anything because how I think back then is the same I think no my my dedication my commitment my attitude is the same nothing changes the only thing changes now I I become more popular and have financially in a better position but that's the only thing but mentality is the same mentality is the same my drive is the same my passion is the same my hunger everything is the same um so you mentioned that you don't drink or smoke and you know that's the stereotype with fricative the cricketers love to party yeah and also with people from the Caribbean you know a lot of internationally people have the stereotype about oh there's a lot of weed or whatever in the Caribbean so my question he was like what kept you away from partying like was it the cricket no no I party i party a lot I think I thought it just as much as every other


think I thought it just as much as every other person but I just know what I want for myself like so I don't want to indulge in alcohol I don't want it indulge in drugs I don't want inhale you ever tried alcohol no never okay so growing up obviously your parents will tell unity which a certain age before you start drinking alcohol when I was 16 some countries is 18 summer 16 some different for us any carbon it's 18 and over all right and at 10 I made my zonal team on a 15 team at age 10 so between 10 to 15 I was focused on cricket right then I made a national team at 14 years old and I took my first flight away from Trinidad I went to Jamaica and from there on I got to understand like how important that is to be committed because you have opportunity to represent your country so when you drink oh you some of the teammates were same age cold the night before and they come train and the next day they


before and they come train and the next day they hung over the country and probably the the puking all over the place so it's to me it just don't make sense so I ask myself why I put my body to this if it is I can go out have so much fun and still wake up the next day come training and be good and do what I have to do and perform without alcohol in my system yeah so from there and then I made it a duty that I should never touch alcohol like there is no point in drinking alcohol when it is the next day you feel hungover you feel tired then what it was a point but I do party and I do have fun said I don't want to put a thing I don't I I got I have fun I have you know times where it is a KO notice that's not important you know other things is more important but definitely alcohol drugs and gambling no yeah so you're a senior take it oh and you've seen a lot


senior take it oh and you've seen a lot of cricketers become successful you've seen a bunch feel as well so I think by now you're in that position to tell ok this person might succeed this person might fail what is that formula for you in your head like how are you able to tell that I don't think this person will make it and I do think this possible make it I guess if ever I let have to be a talent from God that if you can spot someone and know for sure that they have talent and can make it without seeing them have to do go to what I have to do here in year out without the talent part I'm asking in terms of mentality and in terms of you know the habits and all that what do you spot in a person that makes you think that ok this person will be successful or not you will have the spot that talent first in order to go true that like you can just watch someone and say okay this one I'm gonna make it


and say okay this one I'm gonna make it if you don't have the talent then you can make it you first have to see the talent and then no they will make it and then then you start watch the attitude and what your trades whether they clearly committed or whether some people have natural talent but they don't have the discipline yes people have the discipline and they don't have the talent and you've also played with Tony you've played with such an you played with all these gods of Indian cricket here and you've played with a lot of domestic cricketers as well from India what is the difference you see in like say Oh Tony Oh such an avid versus the domestic Indian cricketers in terms of mentality because it's very difficult to break out in this country especially it's too competitive of the domestic so um well these great players and them they have the unique way of doing things you know such in Dhoni they're very special and what I see is that they know what they


and what I see is that they know what they want in life and they are very particular anyway how they prepare themselves so everything is about preparation you know they prepare well and they're very relaxed and come in the videos as well so they don't be flustered by a lot of things and they do not let a lot of things outside of cricket mmm inter upon but of them butter them now my next question to you is about your body you are an all-round oh and you know they say that cricket you get enjoyed a lot if you take a lot of care of your fitness you're still like a really fit guy so on a personal level what do you do for your fitness like I'd I know you wouldn't be in the weight room you'll be on the cricket field so could you take us through actually the weight room situation like what do you guys do cos don't do a lot of weight heavy weights be more do specific exercise that activated and muscles so fast bowlers will


exercise that activated and muscles so fast bowlers will be different the batsman and vice versa so it's all dependent for me as I along I need to have both aspect clicking for me but I do a lot of work where you know that can help my hamstrings don't know about my growing and all these things because of being a after ball so many offers yeah and also I do a lot of Sprint's to keep my hamstrings and all these muscles active and stuff God and on a diet level what do you do eat anything no specific diet but do you do desserts like do a white sugar or do I love ice cream every night I eat ice cream ice cream sometimes I like bread pudding chocolate cakes I love sweets is anything you specifically like about Indian food any Indian dish that you've tried I like that I can eat that I like the biryani similar to Caribbean food like this like very I like chicken biryani crazy and like after a game like after you know say a


like after a game like after you know say a long day like a t20 match is there anything specifically you do with your routine go like cool down your body or you know is there something put into ice baths no I don't drink no shake or anything like that you don't do any supplements no okay let's do ice bath maybe stretch I don't take tablets I don't take no supplements I don't do no eat no protein bar anything like that if I'm my body's feeling good then that's it this ether sleep you know what I get from you right now is that you kind of in a businessman mode right now in life little bit like I think you're getting in there my question is that um what do cricketers especially Caribbean cricketers do with the money like after you know IPL is done and the courier's not do you plan out your money is that also part of the business thought process I know what I do with my money I don't know what guys do with their money everyone


don't know what guys do with their money everyone decide what they do with their own money again there they there's their money for me like I said I do investments I invest in real estate in fact I've been in the Caribbean and in the u.s. okay also my the moment while we speaking now production studio is being built back home in my country for me so that should be launched in enchant the first or second weekend Jan I'm going to be launching a full production studio where it is again I will have artists coming and recording and doing music in my studio and I will try to does where know I'll have the opportunity and the powers to bridge the gap between India and Trinidad and Tobago to have because now I have my own studio I don't have to rely someone else I know so yeah then I have the III bring a machine as their code known for overhead apartment I get a machine that no sanitary napkin okay the Batman movie yeah yeah so I got that movie for


Batman movie yeah yeah so I got that movie for me and I took it to Trinidad and to provide to make sanitary napkins for teenage girls who can't afford it so I'm going to be providing those napkins for ferger's in my village in my hometown you know no target schools you gonna target hospitals you're gonna target prisons and shelter at homes that you know that's just a simple way of giving for those who can't afford do you ever think of what angels from now is gonna be your what 15 20 or some now is gonna be with all your business decisions right now do you ever picture yourself do you visualize yeah about that time yeah I visualized in 10 years from now I'll be about 46 against that time you know my foundation will be bigger my my Empire will be bigger so - I will I will like that that I happen building relationships with me is important and and keeping in touch with people and see how best they can work again together


people and see how best they can work again together and and and do different things to just make the world a better place yeah so you're not married yet right no do you ever think of marriage and do you think that you need just you know that wife or something I'm gonna marlatt 47 I have two beautiful kids though you know do a nice yeah Dwayne Bravo jr. and my little son tweed Wow so I have two kids but at the moment marriage no okay did you ever feel any lack of that like in your cricketing career like you know okay a lot of India very romantic so we want like one girl you know to cry to know that so I always have but who's your emotional support in your life do you go back to your parents your coach you don't you never needed that I have girls man plenty girlfriends so if I am feeling down and lonely I call one of my girlfriends okay and they spend time with me and but I have my children also just do


me and but I have my children also just do in railway will feel down and lonely yeah looking now sometime I know man I have no girlfriend yes I'll be lonely but sometimes but at the energy I'm always have something to do so when I am doing I go on YouTube by research stuff and then when I feel sleepy I go and sleep and get up I'm at time I get up it's time to work again got it so what's a day in your life like now offseason when you're not playing a tournament what do you do from morning tonight my life I'm home and Trinidad and I don't have anything to do my day is pretty much chill like I will sleep until like 11 10 11 then I'll go and pick up my daughter at school at 2:30 see my son and then buy time you know 6 7 I go to the gym and then 9 o'clock in the night 10 o'clock 11 I relaxed and then 1 o'clock I go to the club haha and you come


I go to the club haha and you come back home when 4 o'clock get up 10 o'clock so been ok I'm good I'm gonna take this on a bit of a serious tangent again you know how Glenn Maxwell recently took a break from the game because of his mental health issues yeah people are talking more more mental health issues now but do you think that they've always been then people are just more open to it right now like have you seen this happening throughout your career I'm not saying for you I'm saying even for people around you it's happen often in Australia and SOTA and England and these countries but I never really come across it in a Western is all dirty maybe yeah the pressure of being able to represent a country like Australia maybe India's or England and the media pressure that you guys create and cry on the burden that players have to take from from from media and it's hard it's tough and now Kennedy we are all humans and a lot of people think that


are all humans and a lot of people think that because you are article sportsman you are not you ma know you're not suppose I have a life outside of what you do of outside of cricket all set of soccer yeah and they put so much pressure on you as an individual so if you don't perform to the best of your ability it's like chaos and some players can deal with it and you know the amount of time you you as a professional cricketer you spend ten and a half months away from home away from your family yeah you know away from if you have kids away from a kid so I mean from your girlfriend's dad that is pressure in itself then if you don't perform well you have all these media attention and media pressure so you have pressure all different angles so it has sad it's a sad momentum dance it's lonely sometimes you know you know most teams only allow your partner to travel for a few weeks yeah Anto so it's hard it's not being a professional athlete but


it's hard it's not being a professional athlete but it's you know you know we're from the people you love what you're doing the things that you love yeah but it's hard to get a balance but I know Maxwell and definitely he will bounce back easy he's a class player and he's a very nice guy so it was sad but like I said these things been happening a lot and it's good that he come forward and talk about it my question my next question to you is about India what have you learned from this country because you kind of indeed know if you take back a lot of stuff with you for life so what have you learned from this country people are really dedicated to what they do to their job you know yeah yeah they work hard they really work hard whether it's you know a graphic designer whereas an athlete or people just really committed to their work and they they are very passionate about a country and I wish people in my country was passionate about a country and you know


my country was passionate about a country and you know the the the country India means so much to the people over here I'm not saying like the people and trying to be a go don't appreciate our country but for us as I said our culture is so laid back we take anything for God you know so like our country we have the most holidays in the world so if it is you break a record the next day's a holiday no work you know so we just enjoy life and party our life is about that but that is real I just wish I just wish we could just be a little more passionate I'm more supportive of each other God you know that you think that'll help the country grow yeah because at the end idea I'm if you didn't do a research on Chiron tobago you but not no veteran tobago is you have to do our research they see like I wanna step a finger people know of Jamaica they know what Jamaica is they don't have to Google where


what Jamaica is they don't have to Google where Jamaica Trinidad and Tobago is two hours from Jamaica but a lot of people don't know veteran Tobago is yeah so like I said that Americans are very passionate about their culture yeah and about their country yeah we on the other hand not on that level as yes it's chill nothing what is this but um you know you said that a Trinidadian can low and say something like commitment or that passion from India what do you think India can learn from the world like you've traveled the world so what is one thing that we can do better how can we improve I will love to live from you guys I don't think there is anything the world outside will can improve what I said even a big world want to come to India everyone wants to come to India no you know even musicians back home and my country talk about it also my god you have this market I won't take me India I want to go to India and all


me India I want to go to India and all these things so India is a you know this the the country of dreams you know so they take a lot of selfies though when I am whenever I'm going to the mall it's crazy and you walk around in this country no selfie every day one day one day a photo a photo a photo we're doing my last my last like two questions for you one is that like is there any aspect of spirituality in your life that you know you lean on as an emotional support like you believe in God yes I believe in God definitely I'm a Christian yeah and I do believe in God a lot it comes in a plane ticket like when you up on the field do you think of it they think of God on the field yes but again how I live my life you know I know days I God and I live my life clean and honest and I pray for health and I prefer others I prefer success and for guidance the most important thing when in


success and for guidance the most important thing when in a sport there will be individuals who envy our success so you have the prefer guidance and protection you also have the peripheral you know but I don't live my life in fear I don't envy anyone Oh jealous of anyone and I'm not I'm not intimidated by anyone so that is actual a specter just me as a human being like live in my life like that so you know but I know the things that happen for me in life I know there's a God because of and that's why I said what is a miracle that make us a champion song for example that's God's will because champion song was recorded in 2015 after I won my first Cpl trophy in 2015 I recorded champion song because in 2015 was when I was dropped from West Indies team and I was supposed to go to the World Cup in 2015 but I was dropped out of the team and at that time was my lowest moment and


team and at that time was my lowest moment and then I went and play CPL and I went so at that time I get back on said oh im a champion regardless of what people try to bring me down or bring down my name or question my commitment I'm still able to rise so I recorded the song champion and then I never release it until 2016 which was one year later I really said one year later and then we went down win the World Cup and I really said the day before we play our first game of the World Cup and then we went on to win the World Cup you know become champions and then the song went viral so how can you record a song calling the song champion right keep it release it one year later when I woke up and I become the international so that God would yeah there's not my doing that's God's plan you know everything is and I always tell people nothing happened before its time and what is the B will always be yeah so for


what is the B will always be yeah so for example this interview we are doing now had was the took place at this day at this time yeah that's Kenny destiny yeah I didn't plan this you didn't plan this it happened yeah do you ever look at your cricketing ability and think that damn this is god-given ability not everyone can do what I do here you think of it yeah do you have gratitude in your heart like all the time because I think oh that's what the relaxation comes out from also yeah because there are more things I achieve so for example I'm in India I'm not an Indian yeah but the crazy love and support I get in India it's crazy yeah you know like I think I am one of the few international cricketers that come here that get crazy love Connor was too old so and and that's because of what I have done in a cricket field you know and I represent Mumbai India and I represent Chennai Super Kings too are the biggest franchise


Chennai Super Kings too are the biggest franchise in IPL history and also not just be a part of a team but also have much winning performance that people can remember and cherish for the rest of their lives so like you know these things mean a lot the funds and these things mean a lot to me so yeah I guess I'm happy yeah you know because you believe in God and you feel that inspiration is a big part of your career my question to you is what would you what are the three things you'd like to tell a kid today all over the world give me Indian it can be in Trinidad three things you've learned from life believe in yourself believe in God what you want in life go after it don't take no for an answer just go after your dream and your passion follow your heart thank you brother thank you this is fun I hope you had fun in the conversation so guys I'll be linking the show me a song down below make sure you check it out and


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the goal with the runway show is never to just cater to cricket fans or bollywood fans the goal is to bring windows and break down their minds their mindsets what it took for them to achieve success and bring it out to you guys so that you can apply it in your own life and become that best version of yourself if you are to become a best version of yourself what you've got to have is killer instinct imagine getting access to one of the greatest cricketing minds that the world has ever seen one of the greatest most aggressive fast bowlers of all time and let's also talk to him about his most vulnerable side the death of the person he loved the most in the world he's spoken about the entire spectrum of experiences that he's had in his life but also keep in mind that he's a fun-loving chilled out Ozzy we've also brought out that side Glen macrosse1 when we show today and I promise you if you're a cricket fan you


I promise you if you're a cricket fan you wouldn't have seen a Glen McGraw interview like this if you're not a cricket fan you're gonna learn a lot about life from this particular conversation Glen McGraw on the run vivre show mr. Glen McGraw welcome to the runway show thanks forever I want to begin this conversation by telling you about the 2003 world curve which is when I started watching cricket how often does an Indian dude come up to you and say that hey man you ruined my childhood yeah no way every trip I come over here I bring it up inside when you got such an air it's just yeah ruin things I've never forgive me for it but I'll tell you what Indians respected and feared that Ozzy beam like no other team that we've ever seen so I'm gonna tell you the perspective of an Indian guy growing up okay so every time we had to face Australia we were really afraid okay but we also kind of believed


really afraid okay but we also kind of believed in our batting lineup yeah we thought that okay you know we've got a certain we gotta save our Ganguly and then when they actually start batting we'd be like okay we'll face ah brightly will face a Gillespie but when you used to come and Bowl everyone was scared everyone's like okay you know and now now it's a nice Glenn Berger costume so my question to you yeah is that killer mentality that killer instinct that scared in kids where'd that come from and was that always present in your mind yeah I think it was always present I had certain self belief and suni as soon as you walk on that cricket field it's just it's like you become a nearly a different person some people call it white line fever you know I've been retired now for 13 years and I haven't missed playing at all okay so that feeling you get out there when you're bowling toppy and mark capacity crowd you know the


bowling toppy and mark capacity crowd you know the atmosphere everyone's cheering and yelling and you're about to run in a bowl yeah you can't replicate that in any other part of life so that was something was very special and and something I really enjoyed and I guess being out there fast bowler you got to be aggressive you don't to make it too easy for the bats for night I didn't really like better than that much I didn't want them scoring any runs so I think it's just something that natural persona of being a fastball it just came out and there we are I don't percent so I'm sure used to bring it out on the field when you were actually bowling but you've got to have that killer mentality even as a teenager to breakout you know when you've got actually beat a lot of other guys to make it your state came to make it to your national team so at what age like how early in your life did you figure that okay this is what's required


life did you figure that okay this is what's required I always enjoyed playing sport I grew up in a small country town on a farm about ten kilometres out of town but always loved sports started playing tennis when I was younger played basketball bit of golf but cricket was my passion but you know I didn't play a huge amount when I was younger Vila they kept on over and a 16 team thought I couldn't Bowl and even up until the age of 19 I just played cricket on a Saturday afternoon for fun I played a little bit of Representative cricket from 17 upwards but just for my local town and local area and then I play the game where I got invited to Sydney and I thought I'm night you know 18 going on 19 I'm ready for a change why not plenty of people in my small town told me I was wasting my time because I was only just good enough for narrow mind let alone Sydney you're never gonna make it in Sydney but


you're never gonna make it in Sydney but I always had that self belief move down within four years I was playing for Australia things when it happened it happened pretty quickly but I didn't play much junior cricket or underage cricket at all so let me get this straight a lot of people told one of the greatest fast bowlers of all the time that he wasn't capable of playing for the national team that that's what happened yeah yeah there was plenty of people that felt that way but it didn't worry me I always what did you tell yourself I was I was always happy with who I was and being in my own skin I had no issues there so yeah it didn't worry what other people thought I enjoyed playing cricket I played because I loved it I was ready for a change moved to Sydney I thought I'll give everything I've got and then things started to happen I ended up going down to the Cricket Academy which was based in Adelaide and all


Academy which was based in Adelaide and all of a sudden that taught you or taught me what I needed to do to be a professional cricketer live eat breathe sleep cricket 24/7 and when I came back from there I knew exactly what I wanted to achieve I knew exactly how to go about it and I had no doubt that I wouldn't achieve it so I think having that clarity clarity having that direction and purpose and then the right people around me and then the rest is history so you know I'm gonna tell you the stereotype that let the name Glen McGraw has in the cricket world and among cricket fans but first I wanna ask you what do you think people associate with your career uh a metronome quite a bit to me my goal was to ball across a perfect game where every ball went exactly where I wanted it to that's the stereotype yeah that your line unless it was like no other person in inland I'm sure liliane in your


person in inland I'm sure liliane in your career you must have figured that okay I may not be the fastest but this is my strength like you identified yourself so was it just practice like you constantly tried working on your line inland that made you that good like one of the greatest of all time or was there an other factor that was an x-factor when I first made the team you know you listen to a lot of people there's plenty of advice out there and the main bit of advice I was getting once I made the Australian team was you had to Bowl consistent outswinger to be successful at test level I wanted to be successful at test level so I started swinging the ball while big Artie's in a Test match against England at the Gabba finished with figures of none for a hundred and twenty and didn't play the next three games and to me that was a big learning experience and it taught me okay why'd I get picked in the first place I'm tall I've got


picked in the first place I'm tall I've got good control I get extra bounce a bit of seed movement okay go back to that and soon as I went back to that everything started happening so I think one of my strengths was and I always say a mistakes not a mistake unless you keep making it over and over again and if you never make mistake you never learn anything so you had to put yourself out there have a go make mistakes learn from that so you can put in practice next time and I think that I did that really well yeah that's not just cricket advice this life advice to anyone who feel when you feel you've got to move forward you've got to understand what was you to feel and then just keep moving forward no exactly right and I never had the fear of losing it was never I backed myself totally I backed my team and I was prepared to lose to win majority the games so you know I think the people that hold back is because of


I think the people that hold back is because of the fear if you can get rid of that fear and just focus on what you want to achieve it's amazing what you can achieve yeah you know when a young guy when a young skinny guy goes into a gym and he sees these really buffed up guys near him he gets intimidated now the phase were you entered the Australian team there was people like Steve or Ricky Ponting you know all these legends how does that 11th guy stand out how did you stand out amongst all those legends oh when I started Ricky's what's he about four or five years younger than me but it was it was like he said Steve or Mark Taylor David Boone Allen border Craig McDermott Ian Healy Warren he was in the team so those I grew up watching a B and and Bernie and Craig McDermott here so to be there was was amazing but I think I had a certain confidence about me in myself and I


a certain confidence about me in myself and I think that helped in good stead and I was just loving it just says believe in fun yeah exactly the you know the four things I try to pass on to young cricketers and young people one is self belief you've always got a believe you good enough the next one is you've got to be prepared to work hard the harder your work you know the luckier you get and I was prepared to do whatever I could and then the third thing is always look to improve never be satisfied so it's always looking to bowl what a class the perfect game always looking to improve my bowling and then the fourth thing have fun if you have a real love and real passion for what you do then you're well on your way so keep it simple believe in yourself work hard never satisfied and enjoy every minute you're gonna be successful in whatever you choose to do here do you think that back then when you were playing were there mental health issues


then when you were playing were there mental health issues in the world of cricket which kind of went unnoticed like we had a market stress kothak or we had we have Glenn Maxwell now who came out and spoke about it but did it happen back then there probably was and you know those players just went by the wayside and you know it is you know there are players out there that obviously need help and you know identify it pretty quickly these days provide the help but mental strength is one of those things you need to be an international sports person or person if you have performance anxiety that's every sports persons has to deal with that if they're going to reach the top those things you need to have mental strength to get to the top so it's a balance between okay what's mental health problem and what's just part and parcel with the being mentally strong in that in that field so that's a balance which I think we need to work out but you know it's good to see that things are in


you know it's good to see that things are in place now for people that need that there helps air in when I was growing up was just you know harden up and move on you know suck it up and and get on with things so don't win don't complain the people that did they didn't play for Australia you know I completely felt that like from you I believe in the same thing but as a social media influence I can't give out that advice paraffin because people I know you know you don't understand us like as if there's a lot of people dealing with their own issues and others and and it's not a lot of people I think it's everybody yeah you know I've had to deal with a lot of issues you know just with with him myself you know when my wife passed away being a father but you know being a husband there's a lot of issues that you have to deal with on a daily basis and to be number one in the world and whatever you choose


be number one in the world and whatever you choose to do you have to win that battle every day to stay there so that's yeah it's part of life sometimes - yeah I remember the fears I think it was right after the 2003 World Cup where you actually took a break from cricket to be with your wife yeah then do you remember do you think about that phase a lot oh yeah you know there was you know having the McGraw Foundation is something that I look at it's a positive back then in 2003 we just came back from the World Cup we we'd had a win we'd gone through the tournament undefeated which was nice considering I made the prediction before the tournament that we wouldn't lose a game and the journeys thought I was I was mad so we're on a bit of a high and then come home and then my wife discovered that she had secondaries and and it sort of turned things upside down again but it was amazing because we we then had a breast care nurse that


we we then had a breast care nurse that we didn't have when she was first diagnosed and the difference that made in our lives but especially Jane's was incredible and now that has given the McGraw Foundation so much direction to see what we're achieving and the amount of people that's helping because at that moment yeah you know I think back to the dark times in my life going through that and when Jane passed away the positives in a roundabout way that sort of that have come out of that that have helped so many other people so yeah doesn't matter what happens in life the Sun comes up the next day you got to pick yourself up and carry on and you know it's the people in your life that allow you to do that so in that respect I feel have been a very lucky person yeah hundred percent um you know one of the images of Australians all over the world is that you're not a very family culture driven country just like India you're very serious about the concept


country just like India you're very serious about the concept of family so keeping that in mind have two questions for you the most what's your advice to a husband whose wife is dealing with something like cancer or something as serious as that that's everyone's different it is tough I think for me it was it's something you have no control over and being a guy being a man you'd like to be able to control things and have an answer and and be able to fix things be the Alpha and that is something you know I couldn't do and in that situation all you can do is provide support and cancer is not something that just affects the individual it affects the whole family and you come together as a strong unit to to deal with it and to get through it hopefully so yeah just just do what you can provide that supporting role because it's it's not much fun yeah but did you have any learnings from that phase because what I read about you is you're the kind of person who looks at


you is you're the kind of person who looks at every moment of their life and you're like okay what can this you know add to my mind in terms of mentality only well I'd like to think God I do that but I think I just deal with with what is you know I I'm not one that lives in the past I try to not really to live for the future I look to the future and hopefully prepare but it's about now and okay what do I need to do now what sort of plan did we have to come up with to deal with what we're dealing with and once I get that in my mind once we have that then you can focus your energy on that when you when you're in no man's land and respects to you know with my wife going through cancer when you're waiting for results you've been four scans you're in no-man's land you can't make a plan because you don't know what you're dealing with that to me is the worst that's the worst place


to me is the worst that's the worst place to be so but once you know what you're dealing with make a plan move on and focus on that put all your energy into that and I guess that goes for a lot of things in life though doesn't you know would you say that was the most difficult phase of your life yeah pretty much so well without a doubt you know I was when I was playing cricket I could go and just focus my energy and I knew exactly what I had to do and had total belief and total faith in in that but and it didn't matter how hard things got on the field I was there because I wanted to be there yeah what happened off the field you had no control over didn't matter what I did really it was you couldn't change things so you just yeah try to play that supporting role and do whatever you could so yeah and then when Jane passed away you know I had two young children to focus on and I think that kept me you


to focus on and I think that kept me you know fairly focus on what I needed to do and and kept me together and you know like I said the other people I had in my life had a big impact so yeah but I think everyone's got their own battles and challenges to face and that was my my next question is in for Glenn McGrath the cricket oh it's for Glenn McGrath oh man so what did you do to pick yourself up on a personal level I understand that you had a good support system but what went on in your head I pick yourself up well firstly having two children my son James was eight my daughter Holly was six so I they just lost their mum so I had to be there for them so that gave me something to focus on and then I guess I just thought if I'm unhappy if I'm not dealing with things if things are going really badly I know one person who would be really disappointed with me and that would have been James


really disappointed with me and that would have been James so I think there was that in the back of my mind my kids to focus on great support network and then you know first thing I did was I just went back to the country got out of the city took my two children back to where my brother was living which was in the outback of Australia I owned a farm there was 160 kilometres from the nearest town of 3,000 people it was 32 thousand acre property so I was a lot but get out there and just got away from things totally and I think that helped too but having the kids here gave me something to focus on beautiful so you focused on all the positives I feel and one big positive for you is the Australian countryside yeah you know I that's where I was born and bred I never felt like I belonged in the city I need to get back to the bush just to recharge my batteries even if it's only for four or five days I go back a


only for four or five days I go back a camera fresh recharged I'm happy to come back into into the city and but I don't get out as much as I'd like to and so I guess my escapes I like to dive free dive get out in the water go out there for three hours diving and what-have-you it's it's totally different world yeah and the other one is doing my helicopter license so get up in the air again it's a totally different world so you know there's a couple of things I enjoy doing yeah so you're still after things you're still up to you know the process of improvement even after you've retired but do you think a deed that fall from cricket like you were always working on how do i improve as a pillow I probably could have done a lot better in life since I retired I've ever tied down for 13 years yeah you've got a you know we go to the gym we train our bodies but how often do we train our


train our bodies but how often do we train our minds and you know I think that's our memories and our minds are the most important things and it's what we have is people so I enjoy going to the gym just try to keep physically you know fit and strong but as much mental training just to keep Matta to Din the right space and and off we go so so yeah that's it's always a constant battle yeah you an aggressive fast bowler so you know where does all that aggression go now after you retired like new channels I'd like to think I did but yeah I'm not sure I sure it's it's you know when I applied I knew exactly what I had had to do you exactly how to achieve it and had no doubts as I said so I could channel all my energy there when you retire you go from a totally structured life into no structure and that to me was the the toughest part like I had good people a manager Warren you know first


I had good people a manager Warren you know first met him in 1995 so it was good to have someone there to help control that as well and and come up with a bit of a plan so yeah I'm not sure where that aggression goes hopefully it doesn't come out too often but yeah you know it's it's something you just kind of focus on each day I think you know aggression or something people associate it positive aggression is something people associated with the Aussie team so I asked Wayne Bravo this on the podcast I asked him what do you carry from your country that shows up on the field and he said that chill out attitude that West Indies fella have the same question for you what new carry has an Australian on to the cricket field and what do all a state is guys like for in digital emotion and you don't hustle hardware and things like that Fuzzy's yeah I think well the aussie way is to get out there and play hard tough cricket but fair and


there and play hard tough cricket but fair and that's the way we've always been and I think we respect I think other teams who come back hard and and don't take a backward step and give everything they've got and I think that's a play hard tough out in the middle as soon as you walk off the field everyone's mates yeah and that's why it should be and you know you think watching a Test match playing India or England or whoever you and you think that's tough what do you see a group of Australian mates playing each other in sport then you see some sledging then you see some aggression and really tough but yeah that's that's what a well it's about then you go and have a beer so it's uh yeah that's what it is so see I'm visiting Australia tomorrow what'll I take away from the country what do you think it adds to my mind I think Australia is an amazing place it's a it's a big country not too many people it's got incredible cities


country not too many people it's got incredible cities all the cities have a different feel I live in Sydney you know that the harbour Sydney Harbour is one of the best harbours in the world the beaches are incredible from Bondi to Manly to Cronulla where I live I think that's the best beach but to me getting out the countryside you know it's got everything from rainforest to desert you know the Great Barrier Reef to all aroo at the middle kakadu the west coast of Western Australia is some amazing country up there and yeah I think it's just that getting back to nature and just just relaxing and being part of it all to me is the most special thing we've got some unique animals to say the least and I grew up with kangaroos and yeah in there hundreds and or in there thousands on sometimes on some of our properties so but that's just the way it is it's a unique experience snakes spiders all these things which I don't even blink at


all these things which I don't even blink at whereas you come into the city see people yeah I think it's the worst thing in the world if they see a red back spider or a huntsman or you know you know brown snake or black snake so it's just part of growing up in the bush yeah do you have any crazy buy life stories from growing up no not too much I think just you know I I have no issues with spiders and we have a spider called a huntsman okay and they can grow the size of your hand okay and they can be quite quick they look quite scary so yeah my wife and kids panic every time once in the house and I just walk over and pick him up in my hands let him walk up my arm or what happened just take him out and put him in the bushes and yeah so no need death experiences with with snakes or spiders or with yeah growing up on the farm you learn to drive at a young age motorbikes


you learn to drive at a young age motorbikes what have you you know I think it hardens you up for what's coming in life yeah when it comes to your country and your career what are you grateful about you know the words Australia what's it giving you for your career are just the thing I love the most is that I grew up on a farm in the country that sense of freedom which I don't feel in the city yeah learning to drive by the age of seven and driving the car to the bus stop and leaving it in the neighbor's property with the keys above the sunshine that's probably what gave you the self belief for all you know yeah and I think working you know you come home from school and you're down working on the tractor doing a chest instills a really good work ethic in you from a young age yeah and I just I go back to the country I feel free there's so much to do in the city I yeah I feel I don't feel that I don't


yeah I feel I don't feel that I don't loss of freedom and always thinking what am I going to do but yeah so I think that sense of freedom when you're at outside is is something that I enjoy beautiful there's something else I want us to talk to you about like is this one my pre-planned questions it's about work-life balance with family I feel that something you consciously think about a lot like for you to be at the peak of your Koreans to take a break for you but generally in life like watching opinion work-life balance because they say we in the age of hustle where the culture of hard work and hustle is promoted on social media I promote it as well yeah but what you'll work life balance advice um you've gotta have something to focus on but you also need to you know have a escape as well even you know I think I'd see some sportsmen who was so focused on playing their sport that they don't have enough any other life and when things


don't have enough any other life and when things are going well it's great when things getting tough you've got no release I once heard of guys but speaking he talked about the third space and what he meant by that was that space between work and home yeah not bringing your work home not bringing life to it you know you come home he'd take a certain amount of time from work and just be by himself to get get a clear mind and then he's home with the family so that's one thing for me it's about having that balance you know fair enough you there's things we all have to do the work you have to earn money to pay the bills put food on the table and what have you kids through school so there's things that you have to do and some of hopefully what you want to do and then you need to have a release and getting back to the country you know getting out the water getting up in the air just having something that's totally different yeah I think these are


something that's totally different yeah I think these are the most outdoorsy people in the world it's very outdoors very sports orientated the weather's really good as I said and so that lends itself to being outdoors on the weekend with the family going on picnics going to the beach playing sport and you know I think that's that's a special thing about that being in Australia and anyone who comes and visits Australia they soon realize that it's very outdoorsy and and just see yeah what's available and and yeah it's pretty amazing so I think that's something that people understand even without visiting Australia that it's all about the outdoors and that's why I feel the whole world was super you know sad about what happened with the bush fires like what is the general emotion related to the bush fires right now - you know what are people thinking yeah well it was a tough time without a doubt you know that they were devastating the forest there was so many around the place but yeah Australia


there was so many around the place but yeah Australia is such a massive country and so it was confined to pretty much the east coast a little bit Kangaroo Island off off Adelaide and a few other isolated spots so as as tough as it was you watch the news you think the whole country was on fire but it wasn't like that but for the areas that were affected it was it was full-on I'd never witnessed anything like it but the thing when something like that happens you know just the way the community comes together makes me very proud to be an Australian did you see it in person I didn't say the fires themselves but you know the smoke came over and hung over Sydney Wow a lot and that was very rare but that was because we had fires south west and north of Sydney so whichever way the winds came from except from the east it brought the smoke into the city and that was the first time that had ever happened and just the extent was


that had ever happened and just the extent was was was incredible but just the way you know the support that's come from that the way that the communities come together the amount of money that's been raised shows just how generous Australians are and how they come together to support each other in needham we saw the you know that the the bushfire cricket match raised in the eight million dollars unfortunately I was out of the country otherwise I would have definitely played in that plus other people raising money it's been incredible and and now people can rebuild their lives that were in those affected areas and the regeneration of nature is quite amazing we've had good rain since then which has put out the fires and now start regenerating so but there was a lot of areas in Australia that weren't affected and yeah business as usual we want people to come out there and and yeah tourism did suffer there was a lot of people that weren't coming out so yeah I'm here to say come to Australia


out so yeah I'm here to say come to Australia now and it's some amazing places and the experiences you'll have will last you a lifetime and obviously we've got the passion Australia and India for cricket yeah with the two Bob cups going on at the moment there's you know there's a lot of reasons to come to Australia so crickets one Gorman bashing wood in Australia the other huge common passion is food I think we obsessed with MasterChef Australian and I know that you guys I have like two or three hour long episodes we show no neither one our yeah but from what I understand you've got like the best coffee culture the best food culture in Australia possibly in the world well it is quite amazing and you know the fresh local produce you know seafoods a fruit and veggie to me to whatever you desire and because we're such a multicultural country the influence from people in India from Italy from Greece from all over the world have brought that cusine to Australia so you can get


brought that cusine to Australia so you can get whatever you want the freshest foods you can think of and you know it's there in every city and that's that's something that's I think it's quite amazing and one thing of traveling has taught me is yeah just to get out and experience what the world has to offer yeah we can stay in our own country and think it's the best and not travel but yeah to get out and experience other cultures the way other people live other environments is what life's all about and to me life is about experiences and their experiences at last that lasts a lifetime speaking about experiences do you feel at one of your life's most eye-opening experiences was the IPL when you played here with the Virender Sehwag and Gotham come here in delhi daredevils Oh Mohammad Asif for that matter but you played with all these guys what did that do to you yeah so it's always you know I saw the Australian way of playing and then I looked


the Australian way of playing and then I looked at other teams and thought they you know they have different ways of of playing and always wondered how they were and the IPL was something that I really enjoyed and all of a sudden you're playing alongside guys you'd only ever played against and realized it's not too much difference between us or the way they prepare the way they play their mindset what they're thinking they've got a real love and passion for cricket which we have as well so yeah whether you're from Australia whether you're from India England South Africa West Indies Pakistan and wherever you're from there's not too much different we had a same common goal and same common passion yeah and that was for this amazing game of ours cricket what was it like facing that Indian debt line up the batting lineup with say ugh and such an and Ganguly and Lakshmana and Bravo what was it like facing them as a bowl oh yeah I enjoyed it you know I love


oh yeah I enjoyed it you know I love balling to the guys hook class the best that's where you get to see how good you are you know balling the sechín balling to Brian Lara balling to VVS who did well against his role the wall that was the ultimate challenge and if you could do well against those guys if you can get them to change your game if you can hold them at bay or if you could get them out then you're doing it doing okay and that's yeah it's me that's why I applied the game to come up against those challenges and see how good you are I'm gonna ask you a controversial question yeah so there's this urban legend in India that Steve Ward made this whole file when he detailed each guy's weaknesses I made a file on such in a file on Ganguly said that you know but such an you just got a sledge hammer bit with Ganga is that true no we would do our homework on each particular batsman


would do our homework on each particular batsman okay what's his strengths what their weaknesses where have we had success in the past things like that where other teams had success and I think with technology these days even when I played every Batson you how the bowlers were going to bowl to them right yeah the bowlers knew what the batsmen are looking to do so there was no secrets in that respect but yeah I'm not sure Stephen had a you know file or a dossier that is just an elven legend but yeah and Sachin yeah I remember one game where such an actually slides me oh wow and it was on fire that day I thought I saw a ball a ball to him just short of a length he went to pull it went straight up in the air and I thought oh he's out he's gonna you know keep he's gonna catch it and there was quite a strong breeze and it's kept drifting away further away from him and I thought our third man is gonna come


him and I thought our third man is gonna come in and catch it so and I watched and then third man started going back to the except way and the ball just fell over the fence and went for six and I couldn't believe it then all of a sudden a key such and having a go at me and then next ball leave I think he came in for four he's having yeah so it was I've read read parts of his book where he puts it in there and yes so that was quite interesting he got a quick-fire 40-odd set the game up for India and the MA won that game quite convincingly so yeah it wasn't always one-way traffic yeah bit of chats always good bit of fun yeah I think that's romantic that's what mr. Cooley has picked up from you guys I think he holds his own pretty well what do you think of it I schoolie know I like him I like his attitude I like the way he goes about it he's aggressive but he backs it


goes about it he's aggressive but he backs it up it's a class player as long as when things don't go well you can't sort of then turn around and blame everyone else and no I think he's pretty good I like that I like his attitude on the field he's probably a little bit more aggressive than most other Indian players that we've seen in the past and as a captain he leads from the front and yeah that's wise one of the best players in the world so if you if you're going to do that you've got to have the class to back it up and and vert Hauser does he remind you over to keep bonding agony a little bit you know Rick was quite uh had a bit of fire in his belly and a bit of a hothead sometimes does so and that would never take a backward step now so Rick was pretty driven and pretty focused and pretty aggressive and knew what he wanted and yeah so a few similarities say speaking about Indian Australian parallels I'm


similarities say speaking about Indian Australian parallels I'm gonna ask you a really tough question so if you were building a team and you could only pick one wicketkeeper would have big Tony or Bing and I'll see unfortunately for MS I'll have to go for Gilly you know we've had a great partnership over the years and you know there's to have him coming in at number seven he was just a destructive batsman like you know you don't Harbhajan things as a word get go straight that you know you get all of them out and Gilchrist comes to battery over seven yeah it's a luxury no other save had but ms is yeah today he's one of the best captains Indies had just he's so cool and calm and collected nothing seems to face him and yeah he's he's one of the greats in the game but I'll have to stick with Gilly speaking about legendary Indian cricketers like do you feel that there's some kind of an x-factor in them that sets them apart


of an x-factor in them that sets them apart because this is a very competitive country in terms of the size of a population so you've got to be special to even make it to the Indian team and then you've got to be really special to become a legend so with those guys that you've observed like they are such anhedonia Kohli what's gone right yeah you've got to have that self belief you've got to be something special firstly to get noticed in what is it 1.3 1.4 billion people you've got to have that x-factor but if you do have it then you're taken to the next level even in cricketers around the world Indian cricketers what they can achieve what they what they can have is to the next level compared to everyone else so if you could be like a God you know you mentioned you know such an MS threat those guys are nearly like gods aren't they yeah under certain so if they perform well amazing if things go badly yeah they can there is


if things go badly yeah they can there is a reverse side of it to a degree so what do you think that x-factor is is it like goth mentality like you is it discipline what is it I've they've got to be very self-focused you know you've got it know what you need to do know what how you're going to achieve it and be very very strong mentally and those three guys have got incredible mental strength and that's why they went on to kept in their country that's why they're you know the best players in the world so yeah we spoke about mental fitness earlier on in this podcast but what is your mental fitness advice to the world from one of the most aggressive fast bowlers of all time how do you work on building that mental strength I think it's it's just about the process and when I played I broke it down into three things one was preparation to me the most important thing was to prepare as well as I could so when I walked on the field


as I could so when I walked on the field I prepared in every way I could so I didn't have to worry about everything anything I could focus on exactly on what I wanted to achieve it and then it's about execution nothing else and just back yourself totally and that's what I try to do I hated walking off the field thinking I got in a situation I thought this was the best thing to do and I didn't have the guts to back it up and do it that's my was my biggest fear so I just backed myself all the time and then at the end it's about okay going back through analyzing what worked what didn't work okay and then putting in a practice food preparation and and for the game next time so it was that process I think allowed me to focus on what I needed to do and then just combine that with self belief and just being prepared to work as hard as I could there is no shortcuts people these days they want everything and they want it


people these days they want everything and they want it now yeah and it doesn't work like that if you're prepared to put in the time put in the effort improve and learn as much as you can then you can achieve whatever you want so but you've got to have that self belief you've got to have that toughness where and you and always took responsibility total responsibility if we lost the game and I took 10 wickets I would think what more could I have done to help my team so I think you need to take that responsibility and then get out there and put it into practice so work hard to put yourself in a position to succeed yeah when you're gonna succeed believe in yourself and then also keep improving yeah and play and and live life without fear fear is the one thing that holds us back and I see a lot of cricketers a lot of sports people not succeed because they're more worried about failing God whereas the team I played in and when I played I


the team I played in and when I played I wasn't worried about losing it wasn't even a consideration and if I lost that's fine I was I would backed myself to win and you're going to win more often than not but if you are worried about losing and you fear losing your fear backing yourself then you're not going to win very often either 100% if you scan you and do cardio what's the make that one moment which is a highlight it's tough to narrow down one moment I think there's been so many when you take that first wicket in your first test match it's pretty special then you go through your career and I'd set myself a goal at minimum goal of 500 Test wickets so to be able to achieve that to get a test match 50 for someone who couldn't bat I thought was pretty amazing it's a special memory and there's so many individual goals along and achievements along the way which is special but to meet the team ones are more special the thing


to meet the team ones are more special the thing I loved about cricket was it's a team sport you're not out there by yourself sometimes you feel you are but you've got ten of your teammates here that you can rely on and you know they're relying on you as well and I think that's the thing I love the most we've played four World Cups we made four World Cup finals unfortunately we lost the first one we won the next three one in the West Indies 95 for the first time in a long long time one in India 2004 was the special tour as well so team achievements to me outweighed individual ones guarding but you know they say adversity reveals the character of a man so I want to take you back to that phase like right after your wife had passed away when you came back and you were bullying your first ball back in cricket what was going on in your mind ah so I'd retired by the time Jane passed away but going through when she was


time Jane passed away but going through when she was diagnosed and then coming back and playing afterwards it was something that I guess we we looked at as a positive if I was playing cricket then life was going along and Jane was going well if I was Australians he was playing and I was at home and not injured then when things were going quite badly at home so I think me playing cricket was a positive and that's what we try to focus on so there was that and then when Jane passed away I was adamant I was never gonna meet anyone else and then I realised I didn't want to spend the rest of my life by myself I don't want my children grow up to grow up without a mother figure in their life and I'd met this this amazing person and so I invited her out her name was Sarah invited her out she didn't hesitate I was I met her in Cape Town during the second Indian Premier League it was amazing that because of what happened


League it was amazing that because of what happened here in this hotel and the terror attacks and the government elections Ron they couldn't guarantee the players safety so it got moved to to South Africa and while there I met I met my wife Sarah we've now been married nearly ten years and you know to bring I guess happiness and love but hope back into my family is something very special so again it comes back to the people in my life in that respect so I feel very lucky what are your three greatest learnings of life from everything from video yeah keep it simple don't complicate things always do the basics and do the basics really well happy days and that's what I try to do just get out there and enjoy life I had a favorite saying when I played and I still you know try to live my life by that now you know it was one of Mark Twain's quotes he said 20 years from now you'll have more regrets from the things you didn't do then from the things


from the things you didn't do then from the things you did and to me that's how I try to live my life to get out there back myself enjoy every minute and live life to the fullest and so that's there the few things that I think hold me in good stead so from just keeping it simple getting out there experiencing life and ham and having good people in my life if you've got that then you're doing pretty well beautiful mr. Glenn McGrath want to end this podcast with just a super quick story so I sincerely believe that every human is born with a purpose and the purpose of a sports person's career is to spread inspiration because you're not gonna inspire everyone to become a cricketer but you'll teach people about mentality you'll teach people about killer instinct so I grew up watching you and seeing that killer and staying from you from Sourav Ganguly from Cooley all of y'all have added to my own killer instinct and I use it every day so right


killer instinct and I use it every day so right now I've almost like broken my foot I have an odd guard next thing you know I saw the Bandit your hand is right there but it's that same killer instinct I grew up with you know I took that from you guys and young kids all over India all over street playing that message that you send them into their own lives well I'm now doing working at the MRF pace foundation working with young Indian bowlers and trying to pass on the other little things that help me to hopefully make them better cricketers better people and you know I've seen some amazing young bowlers come through there and yeah India Singh in good stead for up-and-coming fast bowlers coming through but it's it's more than just being a good sportsman it's about being a good person to him well you scared the [ __ ] out of us when we were kids but I tried my best we adored you like we had too much respect for the whole Australian team but few


too much respect for the whole Australian team but few people in specific and you were one of those people so thank you so this is very beautiful and I hope that this podcast actually spreads your mentality a little more oh there we go okay thank you jeez man


they say that the creative adult is the child that survived now imagine taking pure creativity and making thousands and thousands of crores from it this is the story of legendary director writer and producer Madhu Vinod Chopra he's produced movies like three idiots like pk like the Munna Bhai series actually he's not produced on one now I Series he's co-written it he's put some of his creativity into all these movies that's the magic of this man so in today's episode I tried to break down his mind once again a 67 year old legend of the Indian film industry a huge business legend a huge legend of the creative field and now he's returning to the process of film direction he's creating one of those pieces that's extremely close to his heart his own mom had experienced the Kashmiri Pandit Exodus in the 90s and this was her last request to him before she passed away she requested that he create a film that tells the story about the Kashmiri pundits so through


the story about the Kashmiri pundits so through Chikara he's kind of sharing one of those stories that's the closest to his heart I highly recommend you watch this podcast to just understand the emotion with which this man works the emotion he puts into his work and of course all the business lessons all the life lessons from one of the greatest creative minds that India has ever seen Badu Vinod Chopra on the Rani show [Music] so we're sitting in a very very epic place when it comes to the world of Indian films sitting in the office of one mr. video Vinod Chopra so honestly I've seen very few media interactions of you like I don't like it so huge or another it's like you're doing this for us but my first question to you sir is about your childhood you grew up in Srinagar yeah so I want to know how this whole film Akira bit you there you're 67 now so we have 50 to 52 so in the 50s what was the film


to 52 so in the 50s what was the film Ikeda that bit you and made you one of Bollywood's biggest producers eventually in life see it's a very interesting story and for young people it might be interesting how you change something that's negative into a positive thing okay I was very young I was in Kashmir my elder brother Raman and SAR got my half elder brother at that time was making a phone call Arzu okay and I was in school my father was not so well-to-do so I was in a school called DAV school and he bought hockey nikkor and blue shirt that's very excited and I took my friends I'll show you the shooting of my brother and I went and it was little awkward because I wasn't really dressed well I figured that actually I wasn't welcome on the set and I was very young and I said one day I'll make films and show you okay so actually speaking the reason I became a filmmaker was very very negative it started with a


filmmaker was very very negative it started with a very very negative thought that I will show you what I can do yes but then I changed that into something that I really wanted to do and you know how most of us young people I saw you're the little thing you showed me up there yes sir and it said if somebody tells you you're fat go and fix it you know by working out if somebody tells you you're dumb just become smart enough to make that guy say so so how you change and and it a negative thing that happens to you into something that's fantastic that's what I did so why I'm telling you this very personal thing is for your young kids who are watching this to really try and understand that you can become what you want to become on your terms and this office that when we just looked around said looks like a meditation chamber is an office that proves that yes whatever we have done whether it's Leggero mana by whether it's PK