now you'll think about it for one hour and then a year from now you'll think about it for one minute and that's the goal the goal is not to never feel stress the goal is to feel it for less and less time because the point is that most of us allow stress and pressure to consume us and so the less you let it consume you is the goal but the problem is that when you have the goal that i should wake up and feel perfect every day that goal puts its own pressure and stress into your life so i wake up man i i'm with you like as as you said as a younger brother which i appreciate you saying that means a lot to me but as as an older brother like i would say dude i feel stressed i feel pressure i still have bad mood swings sometimes but that's part of it and and that reminds you how far you have to go and it keeps you humble and it keeps you grounded and also it helps you empathize with people


and also it helps you empathize with people more because if you never felt that way and then someone tells me if a young person comes up to me and says jay i feel stressed and i'm like oh come on just get over it like there is no such thing as stress that's not true and so i find that when i feel stressed or fearful or anxious i explore it a little deeper so that next time someone says that to me i can actually feel empathy and compassion for them because i know how it feels and so actually i i actually feel like going through pain is the best thing for a content creator because that's how you truly empathize with people if you don't go through pain then you can never relate to anyone i've got to ask you another tough question now where do you see jay shetty at age 80 so hopefully i'm still somewhat healthy and alive that's that's the first thing i would like to see myself as healthy and alive and i would hope


see myself as healthy and alive and i would hope that i've truly been able to serve and support the leaders of the next generation so i truly believe that i'm not the smartest person in the world and i'm not going to invent everything that's needed in the world but if i can be someone who is behind those people and support them and encourage them and guide them and and keep refining their intention with them then that would be my greatest offering that if if we can discover the talent of this world and encourage those people to become leaders to really build a a just world a collaborative world a world where humans recognize their similarities more than their differences but celebrate their differences to me to me if we can find those leaders and invest in them and nourish them and and support them and serve them then we'll see some amazing change in the world so at age 80 i hope that that's what i get to do and i hope that i'm surrounded by lots of


and i hope that i'm surrounded by lots of people who want to change the world and in a positive way and that i can be of some use to them that's gorgeous and you're already on that path i'm sure you've already affected a lot of lives um i was reading this book yesterday it's called 21 lessons from the 21st century it's by you well noah yeah and he's he's got a chapter in there about god and he's spoken about how the term god is kind of got a negative connotation in the modern day often because people associate the term god with really radical religious groups that you know will use the term god as to put their own intense uh ideals out there so uh firstly what's your uh sense of god like what's your definition of it and uh secondly like how do you think the world is gonna change its own definition of god going forward that's a great question so yuval noah harari came on my podcast actually so i spoke to him uh and


podcast actually so i spoke to him uh and he's phenomenal he's actually a really incredibly deep person as well he meditates strongly about i think he goes away into hiding for about 60 days a year to just meditate so he's phenomenal and we've had we've had some really nice conversations offline as well uh so yeah big fan of his book and big fan of him um but yeah i think your question is really good and i think what he's saying is really important to me god is at the very essence of it god is the recognition that there is a source and a power and an energy that is divine and there's something beyond us something beyond us something inside of us and something that connects everything in the universe and so at the very essence of that god god is uh has has that recognition of the understanding of something beyond us something within us and something around us and to me whether you then for specific people giving god a name giving those are beautiful things


giving god a name giving those are beautiful things i truly believe that uh god is a supreme personality um and and is someone that you can have a relationship with and so i think that to me whether you have a relationship with the universe whether you focus on having a relationship with your inner self or you're focused on having a relationship with a a supreme personality or a divine source it's all about a relationship it's not about fear it's not about anxiety it's not about pressure it's not about being scared of god it's not about it's about building a relationship with something that is beyond us and i think that the reason why the definition of god will change as as the world goes on is i think people got really affected by the rules and the ritualistic practices that made people lose the essence of what this really was uh and i think for all of us in our generation you know i i think we all want to be more spiritual and conscious uh but we want to do


more spiritual and conscious uh but we want to do it from a deep place not just a following rules space uh and and i also think that it will change because we have to find a we all need a path if you look at some of the most successful athletes musicians most accomplished people in the world they all have a deep faith or spiritual practice so you'll see that meditation prayer all of these practices are deep parts of some of the most happy and successful people in the world and so for me the more personal it becomes the more um the more individual it becomes it will become a really really beautiful thing in people's lives yeah that's the big hope honestly like i remember on a very personal level i had an ayahuasca experience which completely changed my definition of god when i was 22. i was very lucky to have that experience really early in life uh shifted a lot of things for me and as my career has kind of gone forward i've honestly seen miracles happen around me


forward i've honestly seen miracles happen around me that are only believable when it happens to you and you're in my shoes and you've seen my journey but even today i have like some fantastic kids who we recruit for our companies and all who maybe initially don't have a sense of god and slowly they develop it and kind of becomes a huge anchor for them through their own journeys so that's my big hope man like i i hope that content creators are kind of able to uh put that idea out there not in a forceful way but in exactly the way you did it so from this question i got what i wanted but uh man i gotta move on to the next uh big question which is meditation firstly what kind of meditation do you practice today and what's the end goal of meditation this is a very common question on the indian internet like what happens at the end of it yeah okay so i practice three types of meditation breath work visualization and then mantra uh


of meditation breath work visualization and then mantra uh because i think all of them have different uses in my life so breath work i practice when i feel stress pressure any sort of anxiety breath work is the best way to have an immediate response so for example let's say i'm going on stage in front of thousands of people and i'm feeling a little nervous then i will just breathe in for a count of four and i'll breathe out for more than four and i'll feel absolutely set and i'll feel ready to go out and i've done that time and time again whenever i'm in that situation visualization is is really powerful uh it can be used for a few things so one of the first things i use visualization for is if and i've worked with clients with it as well so let's say someone is upset about the last thing they said to someone who passed away or was not in their life anymore and they can't say what they wanted to say visualization is an incredible


say what they wanted to say visualization is an incredible way to revisit the past and and change how you behaved in that situation it doesn't change your life but it changes the experience of that memory so that's one way of using visualization the second way of using visualization is if you think that something's difficult if you visualize yourself doing it over and over again it starts to become easier so i often say to people visualize yourself waking up early visualize yourself working out in the morning don't visualize yourself with a six-pack or a or biceps that's a waste of time but visualize yourself doing the work and when you visualize yourself doing the work you'll start to make it happen in your life because everything that you've created existed here first and the third way that i use visualization is often i will visualize if i'm doing something today like coming on this podcast then what i do sometimes at the beginning of the day is i look at my schedule and i visualize what will


i look at my schedule and i visualize what will be my intention when i come to each thing that i'm doing and so that i'm already prepared so that when i come to you my intention is already set and i'm ready from that standpoint so that's visualization and the mantra i mean there are so many beautiful mantras in in the vedic literatures and in the gita and and i always recommend to people that to find your own mantra to find your affirmation that becomes your anchor is is truly really beautiful and for me one of my favorite ones that i've been sharing a lot recently from a mantra point of view is the sarva suki no pavantu mantra which is so beautiful because i think the world needs a lot of peace and love and and then my favorite affirmation for myself is i'm exactly where i need to be uh and the reason why i repeat that to myself is because i think we always think we're a head or behind we always think like we're late


head or behind we always think like we're late we're rushing and so i always repeat to myself i'm exactly where i need to be this is where i'm meant to be right now i'm meant to be with you right now this is this is where i am and when you remind yourself that then you're very present now the end of meditation is an interesting question and and the way i would liken that is imagine saying well what is the end of eating food right what is the end of eating food when will it be a point where you never need to eat again because you've eaten enough food and the truth is there is no end to eating food you eat food every day because it fills you up and it nourishes you and it takes care of your body similarly you meditate every day because it gives you more clarity of mind more connection with your soul and more stillness and so in one sense there is no end to meditation like there is no end to anything good


to meditation like there is no end to anything good in life and i i think we we sometimes mistake meditation or or anything in our life as having an end but the best things in life we eat every day we sleep every day uh you know you have to shower every day like these are habits for daily life and if you say what is the goal of meditation the goal of meditation is to connect to god and your truest self without any other unmotivated or uninterrupted agenda and so the problem right now is that and i give this example in the book this is a beautiful beautiful from from a prayer and it talks about how when you first come across a mirror if you go to a mirror in your loft or in the basement you'll see that it has lots of dust on it and sometimes when we're looking at ourselves right now we don't know who we are because the mirror is dusty and when you start to clean the mirror that's what meditation is meditation is cleaning the


that's what meditation is meditation is cleaning the mirror when you start cleaning the mirror the first thing that happens is the dust comes in your face so when you first start meditating you might even be like oh god this is so difficult and i can't see anything and i don't understand anything but after cleaning you can see yourself clearly so that is the goal of meditation and meditation is that process of inner cleansing and healing so you can truly see yourself that's a gorgeous answer um if someone wants to get deeper into meditation in general other than you know just creating a habit and uh focusing on your breath what's your advice for that person how do they jump into those advanced meditations yeah my my biggest advice would be and i know that it's difficult right now so i appreciate that but it's really important to go on a one-day retreat or a one-week retreat and just go deep because we live in this world right now where it's like do


live in this world right now where it's like do this for five minutes a day do this for three minutes a day and even sometimes i recommend people to do things for short amounts to make it easy for them but but the truth is let's say you like a guy or a girl like you're thinking about dating them and let's say someone said to you just spend five minutes with her every day just spend five minutes with him every day how long will it take you to figure out whether you love her and whether you want to marry her or whatever it is it will take you your whole life because what are you going to learn in five minutes so similarly meditation the more immersive you get the more deep you get in a in a consistent period of time so i always say to people instead of trying to do meditation once a week for the whole year do it for one week in a full year like in a full go and when you do that you'll feel the benefits like you did in your


you'll feel the benefits like you did in your own experiences you'll feel the benefits and then you'll keep it going for five minutes a day so the biggest mistake we make is we say i'll do it once a month i'll do it once a year do it for seven days and you will feel the benefit if you exercise like i know that you're into fitness if if you want to get fit if you exercise for a week you'll see and feel the benefits and then you'll keep it going but if you say i'll go to the gym once a week once a month you'll never feel the benefits you'll never see the experience and so you'll never get committed to the activity that's gorgeous uh you mentioned marriage and love and relationships i've got to get into that domain with you uh there's a lot of again brotherly questions i want to ask you yeah marriage questions i've got to ask you pre-marriage questions do you believe that men and women have different thought processes or different ways


men and women have different thought processes or different ways of perceiving the world i i believe that there are definitely masculine and feminine energy and you may find both in both men and women so it's not necessarily that all men think the same and all women think the same but i believe there are more masculine energies and thoughts and more feminine energies and thoughts and we all have a mix of all of them but i do think that we think about things differently yeah for sure i think psychology is far more uh individual than we try and think it is yeah i think and meditation kind of balances you out uh in terms of if you have too much of a masculine thought process it will give you that feminine perspective and vice versa and that's been an experience i've had uh i think i just developed things like empathy compassion endurance um you know love uh emotional expression all these very feminine aspects of thought later after i started meditating meditation and before


thought later after i started meditating meditation and before that uh i had like much more masculine kind of thoughts which are also great bravery determination um you know just strength going for it like taking risks but you'll only be able to live a balanced life when you balance out those two energies inside you yeah that's what i feel do you kind of agree with that i i agree with uh trying to find both of them inside of us for sure like i think they have such powerful uses at different times and actually when you notice them inside yourself you start to appreciate other people more you know i think we all we all grew up in this mindset this negative mindset of like stop being a girl people would say things like that like stop stop being so soft and there's a mistake there because when you say that you are now not noticing the value of that quality and so when you notice both in yourself you start to celebrate that outwardly as well the question about marriage is as a


as well the question about marriage is as a man what do you have to do for your wife like what do you have to change about yourself and i know it's a very broad question so i'm asking you everything from uh you know like do you have to give up on some of your own space i'm sure you have to give it time you have to give it energy but what are those things that you only realize as a guy after you're married so the first thing i'd say is and and i talk about this often that there are four important decisions you make in life and so anyone who's listening or watching right now when you're making any of these decisions don't rush them don't do them out of pressure and don't do them quickly like really think about them so the first one is how you feel about yourself that is one of the biggest decisions you make is how you feel about your own self the second most important decision you make is what you do for money the third most


make is what you do for money the third most important decision you make is who you give your love to and who gives you love so this question that we're talking about and the fourth one is how you serve the world these are not decisions that should be made out of any other reason apart from personal contemplation so the first thing i'd say is when you like someone that's the time to really think about it so let's go right to the beginning of it right it's like don't wait till marriage to figure out what you're going to have to change because maybe then you'll have to change something you don't want to change so when i met my wife uh radi uh raleigh devloop sherry if anyone follows her on instagram then you you know i follow on instagram i love her content she's amazing she's the best and so when me and her met so we met uh we actually met before i became a monk when we weren't dating i just knew her and then we've been


dating i just knew her and then we've been together now for seven years and married for four years so we've spent a bit of time together in our life and when we first met and we were attracted to each other and we liked each other i was really honest with her about who i was and what was important to me in life and this is the first step if you don't know who you are and what's really important to you in life then you'll never know who's right for you and no one can ever know if they're right for you either and so i was really honest i said to you i said my purpose even though at that time i wasn't a content creator i said my purpose is to serve people i want to teach i want to share i i want to focus on developing this part of my life and this is my number one priority in life and she said to me that her number one priority was her family her parents her sister her she loves her mom and dad


her sister her she loves her mom and dad and her grandmother and she was like that's her her heart in life and i said i promise you that i will always help you get closer to them and you promise me that you'll always help me get closer to this and so it was a really honest conversation now that doesn't mean that it's been easy but it means that we had a direction from the beginning so now if i had a priority with my with my purpose that was coming up and i couldn't go to her family event she respected that and supported me and if i had a big event and then and she couldn't come with me because she had family stuff then i respected her and loved her because the goal of the relationship was get her closer to her goal and she helps me get closer to my goal not that we trade our goals and just work on each other and so actually what you're giving up on is your ego and your sense of control that's really what a


ego and your sense of control that's really what a relationship is because the ego says well she's my wife she should come with me to this event and see me on stage and me giving these lectures and blah blah blah but that's not true the truth is if i love her i should be helping her get closer to what she matters to her and and same with her she would support me so really what you're giving up is that sense of proprietorship that sense of ego and control because love means understanding the person's goal in love so to me that's what really has been the the guiding force of our marriage and that may change also so i check in with rather and should check in with me like my goal is pretty much stayed the same but if hers changes or evolves i have to change and evolve with that if i love her that's the point and then obviously there are day-to-day things like space and all of that kind of stuff but again if you have a very clear


of stuff but again if you have a very clear guiding light if you have a very clear direction all of these things kind of just work themselves out and those are the things again you have to discuss like i i always said to radhi that i'm a terrible cook you don't even want me to try and cook like i'm just terrible like that's not my strength it's not my skill and and that was just me being honest with her that doesn't mean i wouldn't if she wanted me to but because that's her passion she that's her that's her purpose and her passion so she's happy to to do that and so i think it's really important in a relationship beginning or middle or wherever you are to just be honest about who you are and what you want and that person to be honest about who they are and what they want and remember you're just trying to help them get closer to their goal it's not about use compromising because what ends up happening in relationships is


because what ends up happening in relationships is both the man and the woman or the man and the man or the woman and the woman everyone compromises and when you compromise then you always feel in your heart like oh because of them i gave up what was important to me and that doesn't build a loving relationship yeah 100 uh correct me if i'm wrong and this is something that someone once told me i'm still coming to terms with it and i don't know if it's an actual thing but is it true that um your growth rate needs to match as a partnership because i mean dude honestly the blessing and the curse of a content creation career is that behind the scenes you've got to keep studying you've got to keep growing you've got to keep adding things to your own mind so it puts you in this very weird position of you have created your own championship belt and to earn it every day you have to live up to it now that puts a lot of load on your relationship


now that puts a lot of load on your relationship and your partner in terms of okay keep up with me so what do you think of this whole growth rate theory yeah yeah so i've i've found or i've noticed and i was i was thinking about this a couple of years ago that i've seen three types of relationship so one is where you are the parent to your partner so it's almost like you're like their dad or their mom so they need hand-holding they need support they need you to guide them and show them the way and you have to decide is that something you want in life the second type of relationship i've seen is where you are the child so actually you need the parenting you need someone to guide you right so that's another type of relationship and the third type of relationship i've seen is where your partner's where you're both equally balancing out the parental and the child aspect and you both support each other the point is which one do you want i i want the third one so


do you want i i want the third one so that's that's thankfully what i have is that radhi carries me and i carry her and we support each other and we balance each other out but some people want to be the parent the nurturer the supporter the provider and some people want to be the child and we have to ask ourselves which one of these is sustainable for us and the truth is that being a child is not a sustainable relationship because eventually someone will get tired and bored of you and will feel overwhelmed and just exhausted taking care of you and also you may find that you get exhausted taking care of someone else so i i believe that trying to find a partnership where you both carry and both serve and support gives for more sustainability and that also requires more work like me and raleigh haven't figured it all out we've had to have so many tough conversations over the last few years and communicate about expectations and we also have to realize that people are


and we also have to realize that people are growing in different ways at different times so when i met radhi i was more spiritual and today i would say that radhi has far superseded me in so much of my own spirituality and and she teaches me and so the point is that you have to recognize as long as that person is growing their growth may not look like your growth their growth may not be the same so for example your growth and my growth maybe look like studying books but their growth may be doing charity work and so everyone's growth looks different so you can't judge someone's growth based on how you're growing and so it's important that you're both growing but you may look very different when you're growing got it you mentioned spirituality very simple question what is spirituality for a human being what is the spiritual journey what does it mean to be spiritual the the monk definition that was taught to me is that spiritual means where the spirit is behind the ritual so where


where the spirit is behind the ritual so where this where the ritual is done with understanding intention and depth that it is done with a deeper sense of understanding the ritual is just the the puja the arty that's the ritual but when it is done in a spiritual way with the spirit of love of compassion of devotion that is what spirituality is so spirituality is infusing these very powerful uh acts and these very powerful um these very powerful activities of devotion but actually doing them with devotion that is spirituality gorgeous um i gotta ask you about veganism because radhi's of one of the famous vegans of instagram um and honestly it's something uh i've i've turned vegetarian since the last two and a half years i felt like getting deeper into spirituality my body just rejected meat and i'm punjabi so i've grown up eating more meat than you can imagine but just one day i was looking at the chicken breast and i said to myself no you know this


and i said to myself no you know this is not gonna happen gradually gave up all kinds of meat over like the next year and i've reached the stage where i don't have eggs i do have a little bit of milk and i don't know milk is something that i will give up in the long term but vegetarianism is something that gave me a lot of gifts and it's something i only understood after i actually took it up with full force so i got to ask you about your journey in this vegan vegetarian transformation yeah so i grew up eating meat as well radhi grew up vegetarian she's been vegetarian our whole life in vegan for nearly maybe about 10 years now maybe something like that but i've i grew up eating meat so i've i've eaten everything and i became vegetarian at about 15 years old out of choice so for me it was very simple i would uh my school journey on the way back from school i would walk past the


the way back from school i would walk past the butchers every day and so i would see the animals hanging in the window and when i saw that that was the first time i registered i was like oh that chicken that's hanging there that's the chicken that i'm eating in my chicken sandwich from mcdonald's and i remember the first time i came to india mcdonald's had just opened in bandra and so i i got i'd gone to mcdonald's and you know i was like nine years old at that time or whatever but it was such a direct link for me and so i was like okay well i don't want to do that anymore so i became vegetarian at 15. and then i became vegan when i married raleigh because it was easier to do it with someone who was educated in how to do it in a healthy way and so what i've i'm not a i don't consider myself to be a proponent or a ambassador i consider myself to be someone who's


a ambassador i consider myself to be someone who's trying to practice it themselves and for me my my recommendation to everyone like you like you did for yourself is to do what is right for you at the right time when you really reflect on it and to do it in a way that's healthy and sustainable so that you feel the physical benefits as well as the moral benefits of it because there's you know some people become vegan or vegetarian for health and some do it for morality and for me it's benefited both for me it's benefited from me on both levels but i really just allow people to come to it their own time because i i grew up eating meat as well so i don't i don't judge anyone or i don't feel anything negative towards anyone uh who eats me i think it's a personal choice and you have to get there in your own time yeah 100 that's something i agree with and that's also i mean me speaking as a former meat eater


i mean me speaking as a former meat eater if someone told me to give up meat i'd probably get pissed off back then yeah exactly yeah so as a newly turned vegetarian i never throw my ideas on anyone but what i do like doing is i like sharing honest experiences where i felt like i did have a change in my thought process or the way i'm i perceive the world and of course my health as well i definitely lost some amount of muscle but in retrospect it's a decision i would never change if i if i ever go back um that's beautiful it yeah what's it done for you like physically mentally spiritually what's what's that effect been like for you yeah so so fizz starting physically i actually found that giving up dairy products stopped me from getting ill as often so like the flu or mucus or bad throats and sore throats and aches and i used to get a lot of um i used to find myself feeling a lot of mucus and


to find myself feeling a lot of mucus and just feeling quite i would get unwell more regularly since you know thankfully by since i've gone vegan i've thankfully not not not experienced too much physical um ill health so that's been great uh on a mental level i definitely feel lighter you know i feel lighter and clearer i feel like i have more clarity and more um i feel like i have more uh stillness and less less kind of aggression in my life i've never been a very aggressive person anyway but i definitely am a lot more even more calmer and and spiritually it's just given me a love for really appreciating animals you know i mean yeah it's it's it's so beautiful to see equally these incredible creatures creatures and creations and to appreciate them and to appreciate the life in them and to appreciate that source of energy in them that you know that lion or that um that chicken or that you know cow or whatever it is has life it


you know cow or whatever it is has life it feels pain it feels love it feels motherly love if you've never if you've never seen a cow caring for its calf or if you've never seen a uh kangaroo caring for its baby you know it's like there's a beautiful joy to watch that and when you when you deeply look at that you you start really appreciating uh that there is that beautiful living force just that we have inside of us it's inside of them as well that's a gorgeous answer um jay because we're running out of time i've got to ask you a bunch of social media businessy questions uh but let's begin it with you know when you meet people like kobe bryant when you meet all these amazing human beings that you've already had on your show um firstly how does it change you and secondly how have you seen the world's perception of you changing i i think the way it changes me is that i genuinely think that sometimes we often look


that i genuinely think that sometimes we often look at anyone who is successful or who has achieved something in life we sometimes sometimes i remember at least in london i don't know what it's like in india but i remember sometimes our friends and everyone would be like oh yeah but who cares anyway and like you know maybe they didn't do it properly or they got lucky or you know that oh they just they just got the right introduction and you you kind of try and pass it off like there was there was no depth there uh and sometimes we do that about musicians or whatever it may be and from everyone that i've met i've seen people who have really sacrificed who've really worked to really discipline themselves who've meditated daily who've invested in their self-growth people have really done the work and and so the way it impacts me is that it it gives me more affirmation and gives me more confirmation that the work you and i are doing is deeply important and is deeply


i are doing is deeply important and is deeply needed because all these people who have achieved impact in the world they've all done it themselves so for me it's just a very grounding and humbling feeling that we're so lucky that we got introduced to these themes and subjects at an early age because these are the things that have kept these people grounded in themselves and you know i i haven't given much thought of how it uh affects how people see me because you know for me i've been living such a follow my heart intuition life my whole life and i've been really grateful that a lot of these people have been on the show as well they're not just people on the show they've become friends like dear friends and and so for me it's it's uh it's it's never been about the the pr or the the the kind of angle it's it's been the fact that i've wanted to learn from these people and so i hope that it's i hope that it's helped people


hope that it's i hope that it's helped people understand that i'm a student a student of of life and of all these people and that that would be the best thing that people could take away from it to show that you know even though people may think that i'm sharing and i'm just always learning like that's that's the goal and so so i really hope that that's what people see is my intention yeah i think that's what you're spreading out there you're spreading that student learner mentality joy uh and finally i've got to ask you about the social media game uh what's your intuition about the future of the world of content what's gonna happen in the next 10 to 20 years what are you planning for yourself how do you think someone can grow and secondly just you know what have been your hacks for growing this fast on social media yeah absolutely so the first thing i'd say about where social media is going i i think the biggest thing we all know is that there's going


biggest thing we all know is that there's going to be new platforms and there's going to be new uh yeah new platforms new apps we've all seen the rise of tick tock and now we're seeing this awkward moment where they're trying to figure out whether it's going to stay or not and then we've seen the rise of reels on instagram and you know you've got just platforms and platforms so the first thing you have to realize is if you want to be a content creator don't be choosy and picky about the platform that helps you grow so when i was starting out youtube was the hot platform and facebook was considered the not hot platform but for me my work grew on facebook which then grew my youtube and grew my instagram and so i wasn't picky about oh i want to be cool on and big on youtube i was just like wherever you feel the love be there you know so you may start feeling some love on tiktok go all in on tick tock you


on tiktok go all in on tick tock you may feel the love on twitter go all in on twitter don't don't think in your mind that oh this is not the cool platform i want to be on this platform and so i knew a lot of people at the time who were thinking oh no no i want to be big on youtube forget facebook it's a waste of time and you know for me facebook was a platform that changed my life and so it's really important in the beginning to find a platform that works for you and your content and go all in on that platform and then you'll see the outpouring of that platform onto all of your platforms so we saw that when my facebook platform grew exponentially the instagram grew youtube grew twitter everything grew because of that one powerful growth and so often we spread ourselves too thin and we start making content that doesn't work on any platform because we're trying to deal with oil platforms and my advice is in the beginning when you can


my advice is in the beginning when you can do very less just try and make content that wins on one platform and just go all in so what some of the strategies to share with you the first strategy was we always tested lots of different styles of content so you never know what's going to work and even now i'm always testing and experimenting styles so recently i started this new format which is putting me into movies so it was me giving advice to spider-man me giving advice to jennifer aniston me giving advice and it was just all in this movie format and i did that because i wanted to do more comedy and i wanted to do something more light-hearted and people aren't used to seeing me do that and we made three videos as a test we just made three videos and we put them out and they did really really well and people love them so we're gonna do more of them and so the first thing is you have to be constantly experimenting sometimes i'll experiment and no one


be constantly experimenting sometimes i'll experiment and no one will like it and so then i have to ask myself that did do i still want to do that does it fulfill a part of me and if it makes me feel happy then i'll keep doing it but if it's not making me happy and no one likes it then why am i doing it anymore so that's that's the experimenting mentality the second is and i can't stress this enough is get to know your audience and your community if you have a hundred followers and you don't talk to them and you don't message them and you don't read the comments then you will never know what people are really looking for and what they're appreciating and so for me i'm on the instrument i mean when i was dming you like we dm'd it was it was us talking it's not like we're saying oh some team member can do that i'm commenting i'm replying i'm reading people's comments i think that that's a really important part of


comments i think that that's a really important part of getting to know your audience and then knowing topics and understanding what they're looking for the third one that's been really really important to me is uh collaborations and support and i think too many people are trying to compete and and i really believe that it's far more collaboration and collaboration happens on an equal level so when i was growing there were a lot of us growing at the same time so it was gold cast me uh princier uh who else was there at the time those those were probably like the three people that were growing and we all supported each other we all helped each other so we became friends and and to me it's like we all started around me and gold castle especially started around the same time around four years ago three four years ago and we just supported each other and then you saw like you know goalcast is really well known now and but i i saw them at like 10 000 followers 20 000 followers


saw them at like 10 000 followers 20 000 followers like and they've seen me at that too but we always realized that our strength was in working together and so when you're starting out look for people that are on your level and say hey let's support each other rather than competing with each other and so we would share each other's videos we would share each other's posts and then we all grew at the same time so that was really important and and then the biggest one is just you have to get addicted to data you have to look at the data you can't just keep creating and not looking at watch time you have to look at are people watching the whole video or are they stopping at this point why there's a company in america uh some one of my team members used to work for this company and he was telling me about it and they had something called the board test boring test so what they would do in their company is they would watch the new video as a team and


they would watch the new video as a team and whenever someone got bored they had to put their hand up and so then they would look at like why why are we getting bored at this point what can we change and so you have to get addicted to data and look at okay if i grew x amount of my audience last week what did we do right what did we do wrong how do we repeat it and so you have to get focused on the data and all of this should never become one of two things content creators make two mistakes we either become selfish or we become sellouts and what that means is sellout means you just make whatever content your audience likes and you're not known not growing anymore and selfish is where you just make content that you want to watch but no one wants to watch it and so that's not there's no point in that either and so the real content creator is someone who looks at insights but then follows their own intuition someone who looks


but then follows their own intuition someone who looks at data but then tries to be dynamic that balance is what creates the content creator of the future that's a beautiful answer i want to end the podcast by asking you your three quickest pieces of advice from the bhagavad-gita because i know you've mentioned it a lot in your book so uh what do you have to share about the bhagavad-gita yeah so one of my i'm gonna share three verses so one of the first verses that i absolutely love is um uh better to follow your own path uh imperfectly than to follow someone else's past perfectly and i think this verse is the embodiment of the disease of comparison we see in the world today that we start chasing something because we see someone and we think okay i want that too you know if i was honest with you bro like i love football like soccer football is my my like life i love it like if i could have been cristiano ronaldo i would have loved to


been cristiano ronaldo i would have loved to have played football but i noticed very early on that i didn't have the work ethic or the talent to play at a professional level and so being honest with myself has allowed me to create this life that i have today but if i keep trying to lie and trying to do that you just get lost so that's the first piece of advice from the gita the second piece of advice which is the famous quote from the gita is your mind can be your best friend or your worst enemy i think learning to befriend your mind is the most important skill in life because whether you want to develop habits whether you want to become successful or happy or joyful if you don't know how to befriend the mind you'll struggle and so in the book i have a whole chapter dedicated to befriending the mind and the third and final verse that i would say our message is that ultimately it's all about service it's all about devotional service and when we


service it's all about devotional service and when we find a way to serve whether we're an accountant or a lawyer or a business person or an engineer or what me and you do if we can find a way to serve and improve people's lives then we'll be truly happy and successful see if you just have things you may be successful but not happy and if you're just happy inside then you may be happy but you won't be successful but when you do something you love and you serve people through it you can be both happy and successful and that's the goal the goal is to be both you don't have to you don't have to choose and so those would be the three messages from the gita you're an embodiment of that thought jay shetty thank you brother i really appreciate you being on the show think like a monk out now the link is in the description box jai's handles in the description box thank you brother i really really really appreciate this and it's it's a huge


really appreciate this and it's it's a huge uh honor and a huge pleasure talking to you after seeing so much of your content reading so much of your content over the years man bro i'm grateful to you for doing what you do for reaching out for being in touch for allowing me to share with your audience i know that you know people absolutely love you and do what you love what you do and so i'm really grateful and honored to be with you as well because you're having such an amazing impact and i want to thank you for being patient with me in the beginning while i was setting everything up today and uh you were so kind and gentle and and and supportive and you know it just shows who you are off camera too and i appreciate you for that man thank you brother i'm learning a lot from you every day every day following thank you so much thank you man thank you so much for sure


the theme of the monkey chat podcast is intelligent conversations only i see oh in today's episode we're talking about indian history but not the boring indian history you read about in your textbooks interesting value adding indian history that would actually make you a very interesting person if you go out for social situations and you bring up these topics we featured dr radhakrishnan pillar in today's episode he's a big mentor to me he's also one of the smartest human beings i've ever met in my life he's one of the most well-read indians you'll ever come across trust me in this episode it's only unadulterated information not like your boring history textbooks but in a fun monkey chat episode two podcasts let's go crazy stories from indian history if you wanna learn history in a much more fun way we've got the person for you dr alexa so you're a mentor to me but more than that you're a very interesting kind of i would like to call your brother figure in my life and


like to call your brother figure in my life and whenever we meet we talk about some very crazy stories of indian history that we're not taught in textbooks sure so whenever kids our age especially learn about history they learn you know about the more recent history like the medieval times or the independence movement but india's got like more than a ten thousand year old history and there's actually a lot of history we're not taught in school including things that are very dark things that are related to the occult things that you know are seem larger than life uh so so that's what this podcast is going to be about in fact i'm so happy that you're touching upon some finer points because you know as you know runway every time we meet it generally starts with the youtube channel and everything that you're doing but slowly it gets into the next other worldly topics and most important the spiritual aspects which we always discovered i'm sure you're going to catch up on that touch upon that and ask


to catch up on that touch upon that and ask and dig some real stuff from me also yeah so we're going to go very deep on this let's actually jump straight in one very interesting topic i want to start off this podcast with is this conspiracy theory about the aryans the so-called aryans now one thing i strongly believe is that history is written by winners of war yes as in if someone has won a war they will always write the history textbooks according to what favors them sure or to make the losing side feel a little bad yes you know to kind of make the losing size morale spoil down yeah and that's something i strongly believe about um i think the 18th century when europeans actually defeated a lot of indians in war so a lot of our history got erased yes that's what i strongly believe and it's just surfacing out right now one of the things we were taught is that um there was a race called the dravidians who you know were in the indus


the dravidians who you know were in the indus valley civilization and then there was a race that came in from central europe central asia mainly europe a white skinned race called aryans and that's why they say oh punjabis are fair and then the rest of india is not right because uh so actually would you like to add anything about this like what is your understanding of this topic sure and what is the truth so let us look at it this way uh to start with the word aryan so when you speak about the word aryan it has been used in the world history not only in india in germany also they use this word aryan and they say what is an aryan it's a noble race that's how the whole thing starts but if you look at sanskrit i've been very fortunate to actually study sanskrit the word aryan comes from word arya which means a noble person so when you say the aryan it's not just a race it's also quality of a person so if you


race it's also quality of a person so if you look at mahabharata the book which is much more beyond you know uh for thousands of years maybe five thousand years the word aryan comes very common over there so when somebody is addressing saying that sir madam gentleman in our generation we are saying oh arya so this aryan word first of all as a word is very common in indian culture now coming back if you look at the world history there were movements of power politics okay where you know what we call in india castism across the world you find the word racism the race theory across the globe so you to say for the britain world or the western world race became a very important point if you look at world wars also it's about race the aryan theory and if you look at hitler the german culture so prominently this whole theory of aryan invasion is something that somebody best came from there and i just told him though someone wrote in our history


just told him though someone wrote in our history books but there is only one sided to it so i think the western world talks about the historical fact that we came to civilize you so you know the britishers came and you know they were a backward kind of a uh stone age stone age and they came and maybe made us more human beings but that's not true so but uh you know then the backup that westerners have for this rn theory is that if you actually see genetic profiles of north indians and then if you compare them to people in central asia like uzbekistan or you know central europe like ukraine there are some matches dna matches now what i read from my historical studies reading autobiography for yogi you know books like that actual indian spiritual books they say that indian culture was so advanced compared to the rest of the world uh say 15 20 000 years back that people actually left india and went and settled to ukraine abandoned settled in ukraine went and took


abandoned settled in ukraine went and took our culture to central europe that's how you see the match of d yes true and this is something that all our indian spiritual books strongly believe in sure so so what is your take on this aryan theory finally was there actually a tribe that came to india conquered the dravidians drove them out of the indus valley civilization did that actually happen yeah so i think you spoke about it very rightly that if you look at india geographically there's a big division in the center the vindiction mountains the maharashtra and below and the maharashtra and above it was not very easy to conquer maharashtra and below because of the mountainous regions you know and south was comparatively protected it's not that we did not have inventions in the south but if you look at the north you know once they cross the punjab and there's a lot of this foreign people who directly came in but after maharashtra and we had a lot of resistance


after maharashtra and we had a lot of resistance thanks to the maratha culture all those things and deep south they kept the culture very intact the temples the monument they were still very protected so the one theory that goes as you rightly pointed out the dravidians and the aryans so if you divide into into half then the people above are audience for them very white in color and they have a different way of body structure features the caucasian features and deep within south it's all about you know being dark skinned it's not true i think if you look at the south indian brahmins they also are having caucasian features if you look at maharashtrians many of them have blue colored eyes yeah so where does this whole thing come up so i'd say you know don't look at the past look at saying that there's always been mix and matches in fact i have seen people in north being very dark yeah yeah yeah and it doesn't mean that you know they're not not indians so i


that you know they're not not indians so i think what is interesting is to look at the differences but maturity says that as you look at the differences you start seeing commonalities yeah yeah i actually want to bring you to the next core topic which is wars in india and we had this beautiful conversation about wars something that's not spoken enough about wars in our medieval times by chanakya himself there was some dark magic and occult used in the war yes so so you actually read up a lot about occult and for those of you who don't know the meaning of occult occult is basically like i think the hindi word for it would be something like like you know am i correct yeah or dark things you know ghosts demons things like that which is all that's included in our culture so what is this element of chanakya using occult to defeat his enemies can you just like break it down absolutely so let me tell you occult and what you call black magic and things like


occult and what you call black magic and things like that other worldly practices is used across the globe in africa and all that absolutely and if you look at even harry potter's on many of these modern things you have the concept of witches and you know there's a lady who will do some magic so please understand this that waters occurred from an indian perspective see that you rightly put it there is a darker side to it which is not generally spoken about kala jadhu and all those things now what happens is that if you look at things that are known and things that are unknown and typically what happens is that when you are not able to find success in the known methods you try to look at unknown methods and that's where you know slowly from faith in god you start even worshiping the devils so there are you know people who pray to bhooth prayed and you know get things in it still happens and there are a lot of systems uh which promotes


and there are a lot of systems uh which promotes kaladyado i am very careful about this whole thing because once you get into that it's a mental trap so let me also give the other side before i tell you about china can the wars and then as there is black magic there is also white magic not many people have heard about what is white magic right so what is black magic the darker side of it but white magic is actually healing you through the right methods so invite the other worldly people so the people who invite uh the demons and the devils are they all called but the people who invoke the devatas they're also using it so at this very superficial level uh you know if you look at two people fighting yeah uh or two kingdoms fighting it's generally known as the military war okay where we have people who are having the army with soldiers elephants better weapons but as things become bigger it becomes subtler okay so he said okay he's got the cigarette so


so he said okay he's got the cigarette so can i use samadhana veda so what happens at one particular point of time china also realized that you know we need to use other worldly practices i'm not here to recommend that but the reality is that it is practiced even today to some extent so but what was the practice like exactly okay so if you read the artist this is actually mentioned in detail so what they will do is that like if you look at the the positive part of it so today we do yagna hawan you know so we called the priest and then we put certain uh ahuti's in it and you know and then we invoke the god and saying that oh god you know give me this particular thing you're bringing positive energy into obligations if you look at the other side of it you actually invoke the darker gurus the darker details and the ahuti's would be sacrificed the animal animal sacrifice and then you get all the so everything is mentioned


and then you get all the so everything is mentioned in detail and you look at it a little bit negatively i said okay this veda practice is not practiced by chanakya but even the people before it so if you look at there were many gurus some gurus actually uh promoted it in a big way like we have brhaspati and shukraj arya so one is the devata of the gods and others of the demons so they will use all this occur practically mentions and said okay let us try this and not try this so what is interesting it goes into even finding out certain parts of maybe an animal secrets of like the enemy absolutely so the practice it they use it there's witchcraft involved and things like that so what happens you know in those days everything is fair in love and war so they'd use many techniques including the occult but so what was the result of the occurred on the enemy like they used to fall ill they used to get demoralized like others so there


they used to get demoralized like others so there are three levels of occult one is at the physical level the second is at the mental level and the third is the intellectual or spiritual level i would say at the physical level you know a person actually what we call in today's generation probably um what is that bio chemicals ah got it so chemical or chemicals or warfare exactly so you know you just pollute a complete river yeah and then everybody drinks it and everybody dies so that's the very physical aspect of it at the mental level what happens the whole people lose their mental balance the whole society goes crazy at the intellectual level you confuse them so you know what is that you send this wrong message and people start believing it so what's interesting is that finally in the game of war you try various techniques and and the world history not only in india it's all about you know getting uh to the winning side come what me so in the western philosophy greek philosophy


me so in the western philosophy greek philosophy philosophy specifically you have the target horse have you heard about the toddler yeah yeah so you send a whole horse as a gift and finally the people come out of it and kill the enemy trojan horse as they call it and so what is all this trying to use the negative practices to win over the enemy okay so basically and like and a little bit little bit i'm sure there's deeper stuff there's also like mental and spiritual trauma let me also tell you uh you know you have to be very very physically mentally and intellectually strong to understand this because if you use this this can actually rebound on you like karma like it can hit you back exactly so if you misuse it you can be the one get affected let me tell you i know of a person and really know of a particular person who used to do all these things and it was like very shocking for me and they said you know i never ever promoted what


and they said you know i never ever promoted what happened because my father actually got impacted by that his father went crazy so a person who knew the science and studied it a lot of witchcraft and all those things you sort of said no i stopped it because i realized when i was trying to use it to somebody it actually came to my family so be very careful it can rebound and what you want to destroy somebody else can actually destroy you be very careful so i think actually this is a very deep topic and we'll touch upon this in another whole podcast right now let's move on to the next great indian conspiracy so so as you know i'm a huge fan and a huge uh follower of yss which is the yoga and satsang society which is run by which is originally founded by mr yoganan paramanji who's also my yoga guru his book autobiography of yogi has influenced me a lot it's influenced virat kohli a lot it's


it's influenced virat kohli a lot it's influenced steve jobs a lot uh and really i feel like that book has all the answers you could ever have in life yes if you're not read the book make sure you do because it's a life-changing book yeah it's a book that has influenced millions of people directly yeah i'm sure if you're only millions of leaders absolutely yeah and so that's a must read if i'm not read it sorry yeah but it's also very heavy book to read it's not everyone's cup of tea you have to really spend time on that you'll probably sit to the dictionary on the side and like read it it's very difficult but it actually got india to a different level in the western world philosophically yeah it's deep but it's sure to impact you and uh so one of the key uh stories mentioned in that book okay before i talk about the story let's talk about one of the key angles of the book is that there's too many parallels between


the book is that there's too many parallels between ancient yogic yes yes and the bible yes there is too many parallels like they've actually almost in every chapter they extract a verse from the bible and then compared to something which is a teaching from yoga uh let's not get into the details of the philosophies but let's talk about one of the stories which was that if you actually study the history of jesus christ so i think he was born around israel like he was born jerusalem and that was his general area israel palestine so there's a track record of him to the point where he's a teenager and then directly we jump to the point where he's uh 30 years and above and there's one whole period in the middle where no one knows where he went what he did and there's no track record of that now according to ancient indian books according to yogic sciences they talk about jesus christ and they say that he actually spent a lot of time in india learning


he actually spent a lot of time in india learning something called kriya yoga which is also the main kind of teaching of the biases the main teaching of the autobiography of yogi so to give the viewers some kind of a introduction to kriya yoga this is a whole podcast topic by itself but it's basically a very advanced form of yoga now when normally people think of yoga they think of all those asanas and you know bending your body in different ways but yoga has a lot to do with your mind also you can bend your mind in different ways you can you know work with your soul in different ways and create yoga involves your mind and your soul a lot as much as it does your body the result of this is that you get a lot of spiritual progress like by doing your kriya yoga you advance a lot spiritually yes uh which leads to actually on a biological level brain development it adds a lot of uh capacity to your brain you know when


lot of uh capacity to your brain you know when they say oh your human mind only uses seven to eight percent of its total capacity an activity like yoga unlocks the remaining 92 percent the remaining 90 of it uh and that's what they say jesus christ did for 12 years he went to the himalayas he got trained by the local kriya yogis and then took that knowledge out west and if you actually go and see the origins of any kind of religion in the world it always somehow begins with something related to yoga i'm not saying related to hinduism or india just related to yoga as a concept manipulating the human body manipulating the human mind to achieve your maximum potential now kriya yoga was lost both in india and by the west over time because people stopped practicing it but it's arising again people are getting more aware about it in the times we live in so so my question to you is have you heard the story of jesus and uh what do you have to


story of jesus and uh what do you have to say about like this whole so-called conspiracy theory yes of course i heard about this and you know a lot of people have written about it there are fictional novels about it and historical references also about it and as you rightly pointed out if you read autobiography of yogi you do get references of it now i'm not a scholar on the subject but i wouldn't be uh against this particular theory saying that you know jesus never came to india i'll tell you logically for me it looks that anybody who has served the world directly indirectly is a spiritual person and whichever part of the world you are in and india has been the the center of spirituality for the whole world for human history so whether he physically came or no this could be debatable but the fact is that i'm sure whichever whoever a great master lived he or she has got influenced by india and let me come very specific the himalayas see


and let me come very specific the himalayas see what has happened about this particular great country is that you know it's almost like a spiritual center now let's say i have this particular hall and i've got to charge a mobile i'm going to use the mobile but there'll be some particular point in where i have to go charge it so india has always been the spiritual charging part of all spiritual gurus yeah so directly indirectly i know that this theory could be true because he must have come here and i read somewhere i don't remember whether what the reference is that he actually went to a particular place in kashmir and there is a particular place where a name is equal to jesus and there are some books written on it coming back what is the essence of it the essence whether he came or no is one part of it but is jesus respected as a great saint yes and you know if you look at his theories they're very much uh close to what we indians


they're very much uh close to what we indians believed in the theory of non-violence so if you look at the parallels uh i mean he was a great saint who believed you know whatever be die will be done i mean that's exactly what we believe in india in our country is saying that you do your best and leave the rest so what happens is that you might do everything but at the end of it finally it's about giving up to something higher yeah the other thing i definitely believe in is that you know the impact that jesus created is among very few people in this world would have done swami vivekananda speaks about jesus and the impact that he had globally so i think it is whether you follow a religion or they are some of the greatest masters of the world and if you study their life and you come and say yes these are basically some of the common yogic practices let me give you one instance to draw a commonality uh the bible may be


to draw a commonality uh the bible may be the followers of jesus who documented the bible and all they say about you know everything began with the sound now for us it's om right om is the creation of the whole world so if you look at there are parallels and again om comes from with a lot of theories that we have in yoga the pranayama a lot of these particular concepts so no doubt about it that it could be a real fact that jesus must have come to india absolutely very accept it or know the reference or no but why not you know and what are we saying it's actually a great spiritual practice called the kriya yoga the last point is that what is kriya yoga i think you mentioned about it please practice it but it needs to be trained uh like you need to be trained through a guru never do it alone you know if you do yoga on your own that's okay but you know when you get to finer aspects of yoga


know when you get to finer aspects of yoga if you don't have a guru you can break your back in the same way kriya yoga is not a physical level it's highly intellectual mental you know you can go bonkers yeah so practice whichever form even if you want to learn cricket you require a coach right so if you have to practice kriya yoga make sure that you are having the right guru who will teach you in that particular path because sometimes you get misguided if you want to achieve the highest form of yoga be it kriya yoga or anything make sure you have a guru are you a creative i am a practitioner of meditation for my practice form is basically the vedantic method which we call the pancha koshas and again it's parallel to kriya yoga so you may choose various parts so my path is vedantic but that doesn't mean i'm different from yoga finally at the end of it it's all about the mind and merging with the universe


all about the mind and merging with the universe 100 uh also i think a lot of people are wondering you know where can we actually find a guru the practical solution in 2019 is that at least from what i have heard uh isha foundation which is run by satguru they conduct fantastic programs and obviously you can reach out to your nearest yss that is what i recommend on a personal level but you really need to as we call it vibe with that whole uh community if you find sense in what they're saying if you understand the science that they talk about and you feel higher the talking sense that's when you go for it when you 100 sure that okay this is where i want to be and one tip ranvir you know this that you know instead of waiting for a guru have the deep urge for wanting a guru yeah and the guru will appear he will he has to in fact i always believe that if the student is ready the teacher would come so if the yogi inside you


the teacher would come so if the yogi inside you is ready the yoga teacher will come yeah and so this is like a little bit corny but for me that situation has happened with you as in a lot of answers i was looking for in life came through your words so thank you again thank you for being on episode 2 of monkey chat i hope you had fun i didn't have my co-host virat shade with me today but we're going to do a lot more of these historical conversations so guys uh radhasar and me will always be open to talking about whatever history you want to talk about uh let us know in the comment section what you enjoyed about this podcast what could you like to change we are developing it for you so that you get maximum knowledge let us know follow us across all our platforms i'm going to link all of our others handles down below and very importantly if you want to get a more of an insight into rather so's mind i highly recommend you check


into rather so's mind i highly recommend you check out the ranveer show episode that we did with radha on the youtube channel beer biceps so any last parting message to the viewers of course of course of course my journey is about indianizing indian wisdom so the indian wisdom is looked at from the western standpoint so we have a western version of indian wisdom that we are actually learning let's have an indian way of looking at indian wisdom so what we are actually trying to do are probably my life's mission is to say that now there is indian business a wisdom which everybody knows there's indian management indian leadership this place but you know it's important to look at it from a pure standpoint from our context it's like a mother looking at a child and an outsider looking at the child nothing wrong and it's beautiful but when a mother looks it's not the complete evolution of the child so what i'm saying the purest form the indians have a responsibility to study


purest form the indians have a responsibility to study our ancient culture our indian history and probably our whole civilization from a new perspective last thing which i want to tell is that the good news the very good news is that it is still documented and available in the libraries you know friends we think that it is all gone it is not gone only things that we are not aware that it exists go to any library and you'll find thousands of manuscripts in ancient indian literature still available study it and you will give your own perspective and version of the indian wisdom for the world yeah anyway thank you radha so again it was an honor having you on the show and until next time guys we are coming out with another killer episode


the dark times are the times that define us it's not the successes right when things are going great when everything's working that's like okay great congratulations but it's those dark times it's the things that happen to us that aren't ideal that we've got to figure out that's what builds our strength that's what builds our character and toughness the best thing that was happening if there is something else in a higher power that is sort of directing and helping and and sort of guiding you on this journey that is life he-she whatever the you your perception of you know higher power is definitely had a plan a plan in place and and gave me what I needed not what I wanted failure sucks regardless of when it happens how it happens it sucks but it's going to happen oh my god we got a beer biceps alpha AM collab coming your way you know what is going on everybody thank you so much for having me this is so exciting to the done Biggio I


this is so exciting to the done Biggio I have been a fan of yours ever since I mean all of a sudden it seemed like I started seeing all these little little comments on my videos about oh you need to go check out beer biceps and I'm like your biceps I'm like what the heck is that and so I went and I looked and the information and the videos that you're putting out like literally blew my mind because I'm like man this guy gets it he just gets it and and it's been really fascinating and amazing for me personally to watch your growth in this journey personally and professionally and so to be on your podcast is a true honor to be talking to your people is is also amazing so thank you so much for having me on thank you my brother welcome to that and V show but I have to begin this podcast by telling you a story I don't know actually you may not be able to see it behind me but there's a


able to see it behind me but there's a board there's my study desk right behind me and I started out this journey in 2015 August and I think you were at about 700 K subs back then and within a week of starting out bo biceps a friend of mine sent me your channel that was the first time I saw al for him and I've been watched a lot and I think very soon after that you hit 1 million I remember your growth from jeido mill was like very very fast and in that one that 1 million video was super emotional but you also mentioned that you took seven years to hit that mark and it was you know true hustle so it inspired me but the other thing I did was I kind of used your blueprint as a reference so I actually wrote seven years on a piece of paper and until I hit 1 million there was a seven years that that paper with the seven years written on it was on my study table and behind it it was I'd written alpha M


and behind it it was I'd written alpha M but she's over but she did it before seven years it was much fat that's that's the advantage of being in India you know like having like so many people but man I cannot explain to you it's not just me there's a lot of brown dudes out there who have met you have no idea how many people your voice is reaching out to so how does that feel man you know it's overwhelming to be honest and that was something that you know YouTube in this whole platform and realizing that you have the ability to affect so many people it was it was almost scary for me when I realized it and and I've said this before but I'll say to you to see your audience as well you know YouTube has made me be a better person and really the reason is because I don't want to let anybody down and you know it's very very upsetting to me when I see these people that I admire and you know maybe they're celebrities or


I admire and you know maybe they're celebrities or people you know in in politics or whatever it may be that you know you have this this image of them and all of a sudden they do something that totally like shatters your perspective of who they are and it really lets you down and so YouTube has made me realize that with this incredible voice this incredible platform I've got a responsibility and I've got a responsibility not to not to let people down and so that for me required me to sort of walk the walk and so YouTube as as as a result you know indirectly caused me to be and and beneficial you know it's a benefit but it has caused me to be a better person and so it's overwhelming though I mean realizing that you know what this is this is the opportunity I have the fact that people actually listen to me and want to hear what I have to say it was very it was it was life-changing for me and it feels amazing but it's also


for me and it feels amazing but it's also a little bit scary because I just don't want to screw things up you know well I I'm telling you your army of fans believes in you completely man like I have this big mentor in my life who has always told me that Ranveer you've gotta aim to create a thousand other and leaves and as long as you do that you'll have achieved your goal and I just want to tell you man like anything I'm doing to be a biceps you have been a part of like the inspiration behind that so on a personal level you helped give me a lot of confidence both as a youtuber and just as a brother and okay for example like one quick example is that we both like on the shorter side we around the same height and I remember watching a video of you talking about how short guys should dress and you know carry themselves yeah man hearing you say that just kind of it was like this explosion of


that just kind of it was like this explosion of confidence for all the short guys over the world that's the one thing that that um you know I hear from a lot of guys who were on the shorter side and it always upset me to hear them talk about their height like it was some handicap or it was some you know some personality fall or something I mean being short is just a characteristic you know and just because you're short that shouldn't be an excuse and don't let it be an excuse in order to not go after your dreams or date the girl or date the guy or or accomplish and be successful and make a lot of money like being short has nothing to do with it it's just a characteristic of you your personality or your person and and we're all beautiful and different in different ways you know everybody has insecurities and and I personally don't believe being short should be one of them and and I've never let it interfere with my ability to go


never let it interfere with my ability to go after my dreams and my goals and be successful and I just I hope that that through my sort of my experience am I being able to sort of talk about that and letting people know hey look I'm a short guy I'm confident you know don't worry about it it's awesome being short is amazing hopefully it helps you know other short dudes out there around the world and so apparently you got a little boost of confidence and I love love it love it love it 100% for those of you wondering we're both about five six five seven six man it's a very important show that's about like 170 centimeters for you European listeners and the other thing I really want to ask Aaron is that now here's the thing after watching your channel I definitely learned how to dress better how to take better care of my grooming routine all that but the other big kind of ability I gained is the ability of confidence to just go and talk to people and


of confidence to just go and talk to people and I believe that both when it comes to the women and when it comes to business that's that one ability that just makes you you know it puts you in another league so man I want to ask you earlier when you were way younger I know you're your alpha I'm now you're like the symbol of international confidence but back in the day yeah back back in the day did you ever let your height you know talk against you did you ever have a voice in your head that kind of chipped away at your confidence levels my height no but other things yes like what you know it was a you know I grew up with with an abusive or actually to of use of stepfathers and and so from a very young age I was very aware that I I needed well I I don't know that I needed to but one of the defense mechanisms was that I sort of shut down and it interfered with my ability to sort of stand up for myself and


my ability to sort of stand up for myself and so literally from the age of like 12 years old until I actually went and sought help for myself through through counseling and talking to somebody at the age of 24 I didn't have the ability to or the confidence to stand up for myself confrontation scared the heck out of me and you know it was and it wasn't until I was 24 that I sort of embraced you know making sure that I had the tools in order to get over this because I realized that it was interfering with my ability and my life and so that was a that was a big issue another confidence thing that I've dealt with personally is feeling inferior intellectually and one of the reasons for that is because I am not somebody who who sits down and reads a lot of books and in in this world that we operate in and that we live a lot of value is placed on people for you know the amount of knowledge that they acquire and the


know the amount of knowledge that they acquire and the amount of books that they actually read and and I never really enjoyed reading because I went to this special school that taught you how to spell based on phonics and it was you you would spell how the words would sound as opposed to how they really were really were you know spelled and this was something that you know for most kids they're they have an easy ability to switch over and kinder in first grade I did not and so reading and spelling had always been something that I had struggled with grammar and punctuation I'm just not good at and so that's another one of my big insecurities was the fact that I don't read very much I can read and I read and consume a lot of content but in terms of you know when people would always ask me oh what's your favorite book and and I would actually lie for a long time until I sort of got comfortable in the fact that you know what some people like to read some people


you know what some people like to read some people don't and it's okay and I sort of you know embrace that and and so yeah so we we all have insecurities I think that's you know you do I do we all do everybody listening has insecurities and the funny thing about insecurities is that there is invisible often times right and so most people you know when you tell them hey I'm insecure about this or I'm insecure about that or I don't like the size of my nose or my ears stick out they look at you and they go what because they don't perceive this as a problem or a fault but it's it's funny but we are our own worst critics and so when we look in the mirrors we see the five pounds of extra body fat we see the little bit of manboobs that we might be rocking but to the outside world were perfect and and you know so so yeah insecurity it's definitely something that I've struggled with mine have been obviously different


I've struggled with mine have been obviously different than a lot of yours or people listening but I think we all have them yeah yeah 100% mine and I think I'm still dealing with it today it's this fear of not making it as big as I want to make it in life man like I in I really really want to become the jack near the loan of India and I think I'm I'm on track with it but it's just one of those things that I'm trying to make peace with as I grew up unfortunately though what you're falling into the trap that I think a lot of us do and one of the downsides to social media is that you know that we compare ourselves to everybody else right you are so far ahead of me of when I was your age like of so many people like you have taken it to the next level and your drive and motivation is such an inspiration not only for me but I'm sure everybody who watches you and consumes your content and


everybody who watches you and consumes your content and meets you you know you're you're inspiring and the fact that you had the ability and have the ability to change so many lives you know there's there's your success more more than most people ever would dream to accomplish in a lifetime already and so don't don't be too hard on yourself but I understand that Drive because you never want to settle and I'm the same same way and it is it's scary to think about not achieving your destiny or what you feel you're capable of that means a lot man that's why your alpha M but if I had to ask you the origin story of this superhero image that you've built out what would it be man what like where did your origins happen in the gym it all started at 12 years old when my mom gave me a Fitness membership to a gym and would drop me off after school that's where it all started because even though I had not the greatest home life I found


though I had not the greatest home life I found Savior I found my confidence I found my voice I found I found weightlifting and I found a home and and it was it was it was the gym that gave me my confidence and my courage honestly to continue to move forward and press forward you know fast forward then you know for me my life has been sort of different iterations one of the beautiful things about about my journey is that you know when I started YouTube back it was like 11 years ago or something of that nature 11 or 12 years ago you know I was a little bit older than most people that start YouTube you know I was you know in my 30s I already had businesses that have failed I've had some successes but the majority of my businesses up until that point were failures and so when I came the YouTube I've already lived a life I've already had you know highs and lows and suffered you know tremendous loss and been completely basically at my darkest


loss and been completely basically at my darkest days and my lowest point and so everything has sort of been on the upswing since then and so when you've been as low as I have been in regards to business and professionally and emotionally you know it and and you start to see a little bit of success and you start to see that people actually value your opinion for me now what success looks like is just being able to do what I love everyday and to affect people and help them and I feel like if I'm able to do that you know that's that's ultimately what what I was put on this earth to do and so I'm gonna try and do that until until my time to go to the big wardrobe in the sky beautiful do you feel that that dark phase was important in order to create you today like do you look back and say hey man that's why I got built I would absolutely I think that's the dark times are the times that define us it's not the successes right


times that define us it's not the successes right when things are going great when everything's working that's like okay great congratulations but it's those dark times it's the things that happen to us that aren't ideal that we've got to figure out that's what builds our strength that's what builds our character and toughness and for me growing up poor you know going through bankruptcy having businesses fail you know losing my best friend like all of these things were were critical to my development as a person and critical to to me as an individual basically building my toughness my strength and and ultimately getting comfortable in my own skin and so I absolutely think that growing up poor is an advantage for those people that don't look at their situation as the defining characteristic of who they are but just use that as a tool and as motivation to pick themselves up and make something of themselves the dark times I think that they're critical for development beautiful I didn't what what are you up to


development beautiful I didn't what what are you up to right now in life like other than the YouTube channel what do you do so so right now I'm I'm gonna I'm at a good point but it's it's um I'm at a sort of an inflection point for me personally I I have the YouTube channel which was has allowed me to open and run a few different businesses I have a advertising agency called men financial media where we represent a bunch of different men's lifestyle influencers and and negotiate brand deals I started that with my best friend from high school Terry and then I started a hair product business back in 2013 called Pete and Pedro and then about four years ago I started a men's skincare line called T's Handley more recently than that last year I launched and developed a custom sunglass company called enemy and and right now I'm in the process of starting another business where I'm a main like investor and it's actually going to be a brick and mortar shop that


actually going to be a brick and mortar shop that that is going to be pretty sweet and I'll tell you a little bit more about that later I'm not really ready to divulge exactly what goes but so stuff going on and just trying to stay healthy and happy are you are you financially in a position where you can't stop you tubing if you want and just rely on these other businesses yes okay but why do you choose not to I love it I still have video editing like I like I get up in the morning thinking about my video I get excited to film my video and and I still get that that excitement I get that nervous energy right before posting I love reading the comments it's what I was born to do and so I would do it it I did it for six years without making any money I'd continue to do it you know if I I continue to do it even though I don't necessarily need the income in order to sustain myself or my or my family


order to sustain myself or my or my family how do you come up with so much content like your your the blueprint for a hard-working youtuber how do you come up with so you know it's it's you know it's it's getting ideas it's thinking outside of the box but the other beautiful thing when you've been doing it a long time like we have you know things change and so the G the video that I did six or seven years ago about denim and jeans the information is different and so it is about you know as we as as individuals and and creatures develop our perspectives develop and so putting out new content based on old subjects also is something that I feel is is critical and so there's there's always something to talk about in my opinion now sometimes it's easier than others but but just you know just thinking about it and and and I love the creative process and figuring out different angles to you know promote and advertise products and that honestly I got to be honest one


and that honestly I got to be honest one of the reasons why I'm able to continue to put out as much content is because I have a lot of advertising that I do on these on these on these videos and so when you've got a brand that has a product and they say okay this is the product it forces me to be creative and think of different ways to integrate it into the topic that I'm talking about so advertising has actually been one of the reasons why I've been able to continue to generate as much creativity and content as I do I know I know you're someone who's super humble as a guy oh that's probably because of your upbringing and you know whatever you went through in your past so I know for a fact that you're not the kind of person who takes the success for granted and my question to you as man or the YouTuber life can be intense I've spoken to a lot of youtubers from all over the world lot of people dealing with mental


all over the world lot of people dealing with mental health issues you know confidence issues everyone thinks that you know what probably tomorrow all this might collapse and then I don't know what I'm gonna do so when was the last time you had a phase like that every day I think that every day I deal with these issues now it's and and and it's it's it's a constant battle it's again and it's it's it's a battle with yourself it's a battle with your brain just to stay level and you know to not freak out when views are bad you know we're we're currently dealing with you know the day that we're recording this we're still dealing with this this this international crisis you know with the quarantine and everything and and and it's affected a lot of a lot of things it's affected you know my YouTube views it's affected my my businesses in terms of sales you know and so so yeah I had a I had a I actually had an anxiety attack about two weeks ago


I actually had an anxiety attack about two weeks ago when I was driving just thinking about sort of the magnitude and the fact that I've worked so hard to do what I've done in the build what I've built and and the thought of not having control scares me I'm a control freak to some degree and I think you probably are as well and and and so you know so so feeling out of control and feeling like I don't have control or my hands around this situation just just really frightened me and I I had a moment and I got through it I I breathed deeply I meditated a little bit and and sort of thought okay there's nothing I can do to change this but what I can do is focus on myself and work and be disciplined and that for me helps me get through the hard times getting back to work 100% question do you was gonna be how did you pull yourself out of it but you answered it pretty much I once had one of these anxiety attacks


pretty much I once had one of these anxiety attacks recently about a month ago I was with another mentor of mine and he told I told him that you know what I want this to be my MVP season I've had one bad you so I was trying to I was trying to set up my own media company for the last two years and I felt like this last one year was my last year but I wanted to be hands-on with it yeah and now I wanted to I want to start focusing on my YouTube game again from the CEO onwards and I told him that you know I'm gonna be the MVP this year I'm good this is gonna be my oh and he told me that it's great to have hopes and ambitions like that but no MVP decides that this season's gonna be my MVP season and MVP only preps himself to play well in one game so you take one day at a time you take one game at a time and I think at the end of the


a time and I think at the end of the day you gotta trust yourself with the fact that you brought it from point A to point Z so you'll definitely be able to take it further and I also just want to add here that man aren't like if you get out in a mall in Delhi or Mumbai or Bangalore you will be mobbed that's your level of Fame in this country I get back place I need to come and see you you always you always welcome in India by God sometime when we start the travel again I I do want to actually come because I do see all the comments on my videos from from gentleman in in your neck of the woods and and I need to come and say hey I mean it really is is amazing the support and the love that I've received and so I definitely know that I need to come over 100% when you were starting or did you think that you'd be talking to this part of the world as well like did you have that


of the world as well like did you have that vision I didn't know when I started if I'm being completely honest I didn't know that anybody would listen or watch this was back in 2008 when I started my channel and so I had no concept of of what really YouTube was this is before anybody was making any money it was just a place to upload a video I didn't understand what a subscriber was and and really what what hooked me on this platform was on that first video I got a comment from a gentleman said hey I'm a big guy I don't know what to wear can you help me out so the second video next day I'm filming a video about what to wear if you're a heavyset guy and it was at that moment that I that I was hooked but I had no idea really what YouTube was all about when I started so no I never envisioned this ha ha ha it's been 12 years since you're doing this so where do you think you do was gonna


this so where do you think you do was gonna be in 2032 and what do you think you'll be doing 12 years from now you know 5-year plans have never worked out for me so I don't make them I don't know I've never I don't allow myself to really think far in advance i man I don't have any idea it's changed so much in the past ten years in the past five it YouTube has changed in the past two years drastically and so I'm not sure I think I definitely will still be making videos I don't know to what frequency I don't know what the content will revolve around but um but I'm confident that in 10 years God willing I will I will still be healthy enough to do this and still have a passion to help people and and so I think I'll still be making youtube videos of what the platform looks like I have no idea do you believe in God I do and like what's the origin story of that like is it sin is it a


story of that like is it sin is it a childhood thing because I didn't believe in God in my childhood and it's something that kind of came into my life a little later no it's um you know it's funny because I you know what what spirituality means to me is different than what it means to probably a lot of people in terms of an organized religion i I do not practice one specific religion my my family is Italian Catholic and so you know growing up everybody in my family was very very Catholic and so you know going to Mass go in a you know church and everything was very important my mother on the other hand she was more of like a hippie of free spirit and she did not want me to basically be locked into the ideologies of an organized religion she wanted me to sort of discover things on my own and my father is actually a Buddhist and so from the age of like 12 he started practicing Buddhism and so I have seen and then then I