a whole lot that still is going to happen okay and depending on the times that we live in the technology that's at the forefront um do the top geopolitical powers change the agenda or the countries that they're targeting to either economically colonize slash go to war with is that a massive angle for going to war according to you yes typically you would want to achieve that without any messy war but if that doesn't work you can always engineer a war somewhere a conflict somewhere so there's always a geopolitical angle there's always a resource angle sometimes it's oil sometimes it's diamond sometimes it's gold sometimes uranium sometimes it's something else sometimes it's that your enemy is encroaching there and i want to mess up the place so that the enemy doesn't get control over the place like in syria yeah so syria was a very nice wonderful peaceful place assad was ruling it as a dictator well there are dictators everywhere why target this one specific dictator because he's not democratic there are so


specific dictator because he's not democratic there are so many other dictatorships that the us is perfectly happy with what about saudi arabia isn't that the biggest hereditary dictatorship one of the biggest ones on our planet they are fine with that but so assad is somehow bad and they tried to uh overthrow him but vladimir putin intervened and he and he was able to stabilize the country and lots of so-called rebel groups were fighting against assad including al-qaeda including isis aren't these extraordinarily evil organizations that the us was after at some point in time how come now now they are fighting against assad and putin and on the side of the u.s isn't that kind of strange that's the kind of game that's always been played what's happening in syria right now uh syria spiraled into conflict about 12 or so years ago 2009 10 11 around that period of time we started hearing the reports of a civil war in in syria and the objective was to


civil war in in syria and the objective was to topple assad the assad regime and to put something else in place and now it there was a period of deep instability fighting everywhere even damascus near damascus aleppo the half the country was in ruins there were buildings destroyed everywhere cities towns villages destroyed flattened the bombardments and they would never show a single picture of a dead body there just imagine how many people died there and that's what was happening then russia got involved because russia had has this strategic port that they are utilizing there it's called latakia port lakati or something like that it's on the eastern mediterranean coast of syria uh so yeah the russians have a geopolitical uh investment in this place and they wanted assad to stay in power because even the russians learned that game and they also played this game of installing dictators in various places right so uh so the americans failed in syria they failed in dislodging


americans failed in syria they failed in dislodging hafez al-assad and the russians have been able to prevail and assad is now reasonably secure in syria so that's something that's been played out over the past decade or so there's another messy terrible war happening in yemen nobody hears about yemen yemen is our neighborhood here in india you go west of india you reach yemen there are lots of these shia et cetera people in india who have ties with yemen family ties blood ties with the yemen it's a very small percentage of india's population the shia the yeah the a certain flavor of shia people that's that's how i would put it so yemen is part of our neighborhood if you look at the yemeni people they look like indians because there is an old whatever history there yeah so i also want to mention that uh because even you and me are from the english-speaking world our thinking language is english it's not even hindi this is how we


english it's not even hindi this is how we have been brought up as urban indians um the rest of the english-speaking world is also heavily influenced by western news media therefore we are probably as the english-speaking world this is all of africa all of america all of europe or most of europe has been fed with narratives driven by nato very likely am i right yes it's true that's why we don't hear of the russian side of things you don't hear the russian side and even the the german side or the french side is typically uh leaning in that direction because it's part of the eu it's part of nato so they're there they speak a certain language the most prominent voices are fox news bbc cnn these are the heavyweights and that's typically what you hear so that's all monochromatic uni unidirectional news yeah um let's talk about yemen what's up what's happening so yemen is a country that's been pummeled into into dust it's being done by


pummeled into into dust it's being done by the saudis but we know who the saudis are and who actually owns the saudis so uh there's a there's a whole story behind that that goes back 300 500 years but what's happening is that this conflict has been brewing since the 1980s 1990s and they are trying to destroy the the entire nation of yemen and there's a lot of resources to be explored in there it's always about resources it's a god forsaken badlands it's hills and desert and all that mountainous country and all that but there's a lot of resources there and that's what they're after so the civilians they they have they've been bleeding for like the past two three decades and probably even longer the british were involved before this the british have have been no saints either so there are all these conflicts happening and when it comes to this conflict nobody will report about it so nobody knows this is happening and the


so nobody knows this is happening and the worst kind of human rights abuses are happening there there's something called a double tack double tap strike what you do you have a funeral somebody died in in in warfare a prominent person dies so then the person has to be buried when a prominent person dies lots of dignitaries come to attend the funeral what you do is when there's a big crowd in indulgence burying the person you shoot a missile there from the air force from your drone big bang lots of uh maybe 200 people die then you wait for 20 minutes let the ambulances come and let other people come in to try and rescue those people then you do a second strike there okay let's call it more people that's called a double tap strike who who patented this technique it was the u.s that did that and that's what they did in yemen there's a there's a book by uh professor isabellumi in which he has written about this so there's


in which he has written about this so there's a whole lot of atrocities that have been swept under the carpet so it is disingenuous for the us to call itself the the guardian of democracy and peace and justice and human rights and liberalism and all that the the the track record is the exact opposite of that unfortunately this is no different from terrorism i i would not disagree with that um [Music] how do you remember george w bush's tenure it was about the iraq war the iraq war primarily okay that's what it was the destruction the total destruction of iraq more than a million civilians died in that that's not a small number 10 lakhs million innocent civilians would you say he has blood on his hands i would not disagree if somebody would say he has blood on his hands because at the end of the day the buck stops with the president does obama have blood on his hands more than bush more than bush more than bush let's


bush more than bush more than bush let's talk about obama if you talk about total tonnage the total amount of ammunition that was dropped on innocent civilians you'd add up the totals for george w bush out of the totals for obama obama comes up on top and he was given the nobel peace prize the moment he was elected president even before he had done a single thing and then he went on he proceeded to bomb the hell out of civilians he dropped more bombs than george w bush ever did so that is obama in a nutshell that's all he achieved he was a great talker very smooth orator big words but what else did he achieve i wonder let's break down the obama tenure a little bit more especially for gen z viewers because most people in general know historic figures or world leaders because of the brands that they have projected about themselves but pound for pound let's speak about obama so obama one of his major characteristics is


obama so obama one of his major characteristics is his ethnicity the first black male president of the us the second claim to fame is that he had a female uh secretary of state hillary clinton whom he defeated in the primaries when he was fighting to be the to be the candidate the democratic candidate for president for the for the presidential election in 2008 uh and he eventually was able to he ended up beating uh what's his name mccain john mccain in the final election right so his first frame to claim major claim to fame is his skin color the first ever black president the second thing he achieved was it was under his leadership that osama was taken out apparently apparently right thirdly he presided over the destruction of libya and the the ouster of muammar gaddafi the killing of muhammad radhafi apart from that i wonder he he he was one of the first presidents in known to have ordered the assassination of a u.s citizen on foreign territory


assassination of a u.s citizen on foreign territory in yemen and his teenage son as well later on so a u.s president who ordered the assassination of a u.s citizen on foreign territory and apart from that i wonder what else he achieved 2008 to 2016 very well spoken guy very sway very smooth great orator but i don't really know what other achievements he can boast of apart from these things um what was his impression in domestic circles in america i think people were really enthused about the fact that finally they had broken the glass ceiling that black men could never aspire to become president so he smashed through that he was the first president to actually use social media to his advantage and outmaneuver the opponent in a presidential election campaign via social media very young guy he was in his early 40s or so mid-40s when he became president so he had new ideas he leveraged all the latest tools social media which nobody else understood at the time


social media which nobody else understood at the time so these are the things that that is remembered for he's remembered for being a great speaker and uh that sort of thing a guy who was a president and used to smoke once in a while some of these little characteristics i am i personally myself don't cannot think of any other achievement of his apart from these things in my memory of my life he's probably the most loved american president all over the world as an even indians were rooting so much from i remember when he was uh the the day he was being announced as president what's it called it's called something right um what is it called whatever whatever they call it when the inauguration day yeah inauguration yeah so when he's being inaugurated uh indians are celebrating this is this is this is where we lose the plot often as indians barely know what was happening in our own country but kind of just go ahead with white hype wherever the white man celebrates


ahead with white hype wherever the white man celebrates we go and celebrate speaking about the white man and black men and women and minorities i want to speak about that aspect of american culture i don't even know where to begin this again it's a sensitive topic there's a whole lot to unpack here okay i'll begin it here right i've traveled the world and i've met people from all ethnicities i've met beautiful human beings from all over the world whenever i meet african americans and if i ask them about their country and and about the racism that even we face as brown people when we travel abroad there is a slight discomfort i sense from them and of course that's generational discomfort because of what black people were put through 200 years ago 300 years ago when slavery was a thing in america in that phase of america definitely members of that still exist they do the denzel washington movie remember the titans it's a great portrayal of what i believe 1960s america was where


of what i believe 1960s america was where racism was still very very prevalent i'm sure it's still prevalent ray we hear of our brown friends in america facing aspects of racism especially when they move away from the coasts when you go inside the country they say it's like another country there's one kind of country on the two coasts and then there's another kind of country in the middle i've also faced some racism in america so it's not that the racism is dead but what i'm getting to after all this is the plight of the average black person which i've learned from following american culture movie sports it is a very difficult game of life if you are a black person not born into some sort of financial privilege and white privilege is a thing but since generations the average white person has had a lot more money a lot more power a lot more say in society even voting rights uh you know since the longest time especially white men some people even say things like


time especially white men some people even say things like america is loki one of the most sexist countries i don't know true that is i'm not a woman i may not ever be able to understand that angle but i have observed this about the average african-american what some of my friends have told me is that for an african-american to rise up from a place of lesser financial privilege they have to be incredibly street smart incredibly hard working the beauty of america is that if you get them the results opportunity will be provided to you and a ladder to grow will be provided but here's the thing about privilege or a lack of privilege if you don't have privilege in your life if you're not born into privilege you're already at a huge disadvantage because what is privilege it's money being born into money that money pays for a good education a good college degree you're learning a lot of intangibles through that good education through that college degree you're learning sales skills you're learning


that college degree you're learning sales skills you're learning people skills what about someone who's as intelligent as you maybe your iq levels match but because they're not born into privilege they don't get access to those sales skills to those people skills even if they were as intelligent as you pound for pound if they're the exact same neural patterns as you so white privilege is a thing racism that black people face in america is a thing i'd like to know what you think and my actual question to you is gonna be a brutal question but it's been a while since america got independence it's been a while even since martin luther king jr rest in peace but why do black people still face that level of racism in america today they sure do there's something called racial profiling if you're a black person you're way more likely to be to be stopped by a cop if you're driving a car you're way more likely to be shot by a cop for no reason whatsoever the racial profiling is


cop for no reason whatsoever the racial profiling is very much a thing these days there is a lot of talk about this so it may have come down but the incidents still occur and that's why black lives matter black lives matter became a thing now if you want to understand the root cause of this let's go back to the u.s independence the war of independence george w george washington won it they ousted the british the red coats there was the declaration of independence and then you had the constitution of the u.s which was drafted which says that we whatever it says we the people we believe that all men are born equal blah blah blah and then this constitution was ratified by the citizens of the us which means the constitution was put to a vote do you accept this constitution or not and it was the the result was yes now who voted for this who was allowed to vote white men only white men and not only not just all white men land owners so a small fraction of the


white men land owners so a small fraction of the population was allowed to vote whether they want the constitution or they reject it women had no vote landless white men had no vote black people had no vote the true natives of america had no vote do you think this is a democratically instituted constitution this is an illegitimate constitution this is the very root cause of everything and in the declaration of independence they call the the they they portray the indians as savages they call them indians the savage brutal or whatever india i don't know what the i don't remember what the term is it's a very derogatory term that they have used for the natives of the americas in the declaration of independence so the very foundation the very root of the country is is steeped in exclusive vision exclusivism and racism and sexism that's the root of the country uh the the the whole nation was born out of that and possibly homophobia uh there was no mention of homosexuals at the time but i am


mention of homosexuals at the time but i am sure well it's a christian nation christianity brings with itself homophobia it's part of christianity whether you like it or not just read it read the books the holy texts so uh so the entire nation was built on the backs of the labor the slave labor of the black of the african-american men women and children it was also built on the genocide of the native americans that is the true truth of the nation the entire economy for the first couple of hundred years was built on the black on the back of slave labor it was built out of stolen land land that had been stolen from the true owners of the land right eventually you had industrialization and all but even then until the beginning of the 20th century black people men women children were sold along with animals livestock goats bulls cows that's how they were sold like like animals families would be broken up there used to be men who were used for breeding


there used to be men who were used for breeding women to produce lots of black children slaves and then those families would be broken up as soon as the child is a few years old sold somewhere else imagine how horrifically wrenching it will be for a small child to be uprooted from your mother and father and sold away somewhere as if you're a dog or a cat so that's the kind of societal background cultural background historical background this country has and and then there was the segregation even after slavery was abolished there was a whole civil war for that the north wanted slavery to be abolished the south still wanted slavery because they dependent on depended on the slave labor for their economy the north was more industrialized that they did not want it they went to war for that the south succeeded whole story there that's a different topic but eventually the north won slavery was abolished and yet they got no real rights the blacks were still segregated they were still second-class citizens until


were still segregated they were still second-class citizens until the 1960s john f kennedy abolished that and he gave people equal rights but even then there was a lot of racism for that for the longest time even now the blacks in some ways are still not quite as equal as everybody else i just want to put a disclaimer yo if there are black people watching this african-americans or from wherever in the world you are understand with talking about this from as empathetic standpoint as is possible uh trust me even indians face an insane amount of racism all over the world there's nothing compared to the kind of racism that african americans and their ancestors have faced but we do come from a place of empathy anyway let's go also now the problem is this the united states has a mixed population now everybody has some black ancestry all african-american people have some white ancestry the question is whom do you hate now if you want to hate the ones who


now if you want to hate the ones who oppressed you but you have some of that in you that's the crossroads the american society has come to there is no pure black person or pure white person in the u.s everybody is to some extent mixed even the purest white person with blue eyes and blonde hair may have four five seven percent black ancestry even the person with the darkest skin may have five or six percent white european ancestry so today it's a mixed population so the question is whom do you hate now i think it's a collective guilt for all of them now there used to be this racist rule in the u.s called the one drop rule if a person has even a single drop of black blood that person is considered to be black that is a ridiculous illogical rule today the fact is that it's a mixed society there is no pure white person pure black person everybody has some european blood some african-american blood maybe some native blood also the natives are the most


maybe some native blood also the natives are the most marginalized of the of the lot they are completely invisible they are even below they're they're the bottom of the social ladder so even today there are massive problems in the us there is terrible inequality just even if you talk about the wealth inequality it's massive but even if you look at the the racism and the social classes that exist there is so much angst there is so much uh there is so much anger about what's happened about the blacks are still facing all these problems and the natives are not even spoken about but certain classes are more privileged now there is this concept of white guilt that if you're white you need to be apologetic for that and now there's all kinds of other weirdness that's coming to american society with the rise of whatever the what they call vocalism or whatever so it's a society at a crossroads it's a society that is dangerous dangerously armed everybody has weapons there are more weapons


dangerously armed everybody has weapons there are more weapons automatic weapons guns than human beings in the u.s today it's it's a tinderbox it could go off anytime and there's shootings happening every day and i i don't know what the causes are but it's it's a very damaged society there's a lot of uh mental illness in the u.s there's there's a lot of bullying in the schools all kinds of problems so that's where we are in the u.s today i hope i wish them healing i wish them happiness all races all ethnicities black people white people especially the native people who are still marginalized so nobody wants to speak about there's a lot of introspection that you the americans have to do instead of coming and coming here and lecturing indians and other people about how we should live our lives they need to introspect and try to fix their society because that is one of the most deceased societies i've seen in the longest time i'm gonna speak


seen in the longest time i'm gonna speak about something i've not spoken about on the podcast yet which was veer das uh poem which he performed in the us and there was a big controversy around it i actually wish to host vedas on the show whenever i can i do look up to him as an artist as a stand-up comic as a writer but i'm not completely in agreement with what he did because he portrayed a dark aspect of india out there on a public forum in america i think it was called two india's uh where he spoke about one great aspect of it about the culture and spiritualism and they backed it up with like the uh islamophobia and all that the world knows india as today every single country in today's day and age is a mixed bag that's what's crucial we're not saying that india is better than america america is not as good as other countries and all that but the truth is that we live in an age where every


truth is that we live in an age where every single country is a mixed bag every single country has its own problems this particular we'll probably address would you would you like to say anything about those so i would like to say something that most people won't like many people won't like i call him a brown it's not a very flattering thing to say there are certain people who in order to curry favor in the west specialize in what some would say uh on their own people you know you go outside your country and you and you denigrate your own culture your own people and you try to try to amplify the overall uh impression that the the people in that country have about india so if you look at the the overall uh depiction of india in the in the western media in the us media whether it's the washington post whether the new york times they always try to denigrate india when india did this world record of 103 satellite launches in one rocket they they put up this cartoon of


in one rocket they they put up this cartoon of india trying to enter the the elite space club with a cow right so they always try to put this colonial backward image of india and that's how they would like to see india it's a very hindu phobic image of india india is a is a backward country with a primitive barbaric pagan culture where you have whatever phobia and women are are downtrodden and minorities are downtrodden these are all lies i disagree with this completely and veer das in order to become famous there went there and made all these statements on a public stage which i think is shameful he should be ashamed of himself i want to quote joe rogan as well joe rogan constantly talks about the media world in america being entirely governed by the left wing and for the record i feel i am personally centrist i'm not on either side that's just my political opinion from a overall even international perspective i feel why should they even


overall even international perspective i feel why should they even be two wings there's probably a little bit of good on both sides but joe rogan himself has said that most of uh the media world hollywood the television industry is very kind of um tends to left in america most of it other than i think fox news which is leaning towards right um and in hollywood circles in acting circles in these kind of circles basically the media world of america you have to say the politically correct things which in that particular circle is stuff that would please the left wing yes um and maybe this is an echo of that same maybe he just wants to succeed there i mean he's an outsider he wants to become one of the inner circle and to do that you have to please them whoever is in power you cannot do say things they won't lie otherwise you will get no visibility whatsoever and you'll be out to get in you have to play the game and you have to to act the


play the game and you have to to act the part and so he's willing to do that he's fine to do that he i i mean whatever for good or bad he's doing it he is uh he's succeeding he's getting invited for podcast i'm sure that he's a reasonably well sought after comedian i don't find any any of his comedy funny comedy is funny when you're not making fun of a certain class of people or a certain group of people when you're making fun of human nature that's when you're funny i understand what comedy is what humor is when you make fun of yourself that's funny when you make fun of human nature as a whole that's funny when you make fun of a certain political segment of society is not funny it's unfunny so i don't understand this political humor when you're just trying to appease one certain political class of people that is not funny whatsoever that's politics you're just pandering to politics when you do


you're just pandering to politics when you do that and that's what vedas is doing i don't think he's a talented comedian i think i i don't have a high regard for him uh otherwise my disagreement that's fine it's my personal opinion i would actually want to invite vedas on the show you should go ahead and do that yeah like yeah what do you have to say yeah i just i want to know what his perspective was honestly like no matter how much uh uh we know about this situation maybe he has his own side of the story i don't believe he hadn't entirely grown up in india so maybe the big picture he has of india as a culture is kind of um driven from the narrative he got growing up neither did i grow up in india fully i spent part of my formative years outside the country how how is that how is it like growing up outside india as an indian you know what when i was growing up arts of india


what when i was growing up arts of india in europe in switzerland i was to be honest ashamed of being indian india had a very very negative portrayal in europe india was regarded as a place of incredible poverty incredible backwardness backward culture primitive culture misogyny backward religion hinduism is dirty and it's all that sort of thing so i never spoke about being indian about my culture or anything i was kind of ashamed of being associated with india that's how i grew up for a few years it's only after i came back to india and i traveled to other places i got a more 360 degree world view there and then when i started studying and researching history and all of that that's when i started understanding what india really is and that's when i slowly began to realize all these portrayals are lies and distortions and they have a certain agenda behind them this is what i feel about most of the left wing in our country that they've not traveled


left wing in our country that they've not traveled in the interiors as much i haven't traveled the interiors of india i've traveled outside of india i have not explored india as anywhere as much as i would want to but i have explored india through writings through my scholarly activities through years and hundreds and thousands of years of study and researching history not just indian history but world history that kind of puts you in the perspective of the entire world and what happened there when you see the effect of colonialism with other countries in africa in south america in north america even the effect of colonialism itself in europe itself because the true culture of europe has been wiped out which nobody realizes so if once you start to see all of that then you realize what the patterns are and you will start to understand what the distortions are because the same assault that was done on europe's pre-christian culture happened later on in india the same tactics


happened later on in india the same tactics the same brutality the same attempt to portray the indian culture as primitive and barbaric it has to be replaced by something superior so once you study all that you get a better understanding of things so even though i spent some of my formative years abroad i now have a different idea of how things are based on actual data uh before we move on to talking about trump and biden which are final segments i do also want to ask you about the positives about usa because i'm sure there are american viewers somewhere kind of questioning if we're just here to out the country it's not the case we're doing a commentary we're trying to keep it as objective as possible uh keep in mind this is a scientist a historian we're speaking to uh i also recommend you go check out all the other geopolitics episodes to really understand where we're coming from when we're speaking about all these concepts we'll link it down below do you want


concepts we'll link it down below do you want to speak about some of the positives of america for me silicon valley is always going to be at the forefront uh in the world of startups in the world of technology would you like to highlight anything else i think the us has been a driver of innovation in the world uh many of the technological breakthroughs that we all enjoy today have come from there it used to have a culture of high achievement a culture of pushing yourself beyond the limits of aiming for the for the top of never settling for second best and the lifestyle is about freedom over there it's about freedom it's about individualism i am kind of a black sheep in indian society i am more of an individualistic person even though i have the greatest of respect for indian culture and society but i personally am kind of a person who loves freedom more individuality i like the wide open spaces that america has to offer you can take a car and go for


to offer you can take a car and go for an all-night drive without encountering too many people and you can if you have the money you can do whatever you want in the country as long as you don't break the law so there are lots of positive positives in the u.s the the people are overall a good people broad-minded happy people welcoming people i personally have not faced too much racism in the u.s sometimes i've felt that i was not quite welcome in some places like in the interior of the us but on the coasts it's a very different uh society it's a very different attitude so there are there are so many positives that the us used to have to offer it still has so many good people it still has so many brilliant people lots of indians go there to work and they excel and they rise to the top in the us if the u.s was that xenophobic that would not happen so there is an element of good also in that society they value value they value


good also in that society they value value they value a person who has talent the value hard work there's a lot to learn from that country and i certainly wish this country nothing but the best but um this is just a commentary about what we are seeing but i wish that country the best i really like the country i've been there multiple times i've lived there on occasion it's a great place the brutal truth is between you and china we'd always pick you that's the honest truth and which is why we have to speak about china edward snowden uh these angles where cyber warfare has become a thing i think we briefly touched upon obama it is time to touch upon trump how do you look at him actually winning the election against hillary how do you look at his legacy of four years i think it was an accident that nobody anticipated see trump is an outsider he's not a politician he's an entrepreneur he's a businessman he's a high achiever and he got into


businessman he's a high achiever and he got into the political race out of a hurt ego or something right and nobody expected that he would resonate his message would resonate with the people and he would actually end up winning the election nobody liked him in the among the political class his own party despised him when he there was this motion for impeachment his own party voted against him some members of his party and because of that he was impeached the impeachment succeeded now how do i see trump i see him as a failure why does him as a failure because none of the policies and the objectives he had he had listed at the beginning none of those he was able to achieve he could not build the wall he could not destroy china by the trade war various other things he wanted to do nothing nothing was achieved he was not able to achieve that because his party and the opposition both were against him they say that the u.s president is the most powerful man in the


u.s president is the most powerful man in the world this guy was in power he was the president what happened he was in office but he was never in power somebody else was running the show all the time that tells her the brutal truth about the us this guy was in office for four years he was able to achieve nothing it's not like he was incompetent he could not become that rich by being incompetent he certainly knows how to get things done and yet he was able to achieve nothing it's because of his status as an outsider who accidentally won the election and this is a mistake they will never allow to happen again it won't ever happen again do you believe in the conspiracy theory that russian and chinese hackers were behind his window they are what do you think the truth is see when trump wins it's russia but when biden wins there's no russia how does that happen be consistent at least in your claims if russia interfered in


at least in your claims if russia interfered in 2016 they would certainly have been able to interfere in 2020. if they have the technological know-how to do that in 2016 in four years their technological know-how will increase by a duration of four years and they would certainly be able to do the same thing in 2020 as well so how did biden win so now they say that the russians could not do anything in 2020. now the midterms are coming now again they're claiming russians will interfere decide once and for all what's happening are they interfering or are they not interfering or are they interfering only when you lose [Music] so i don't believe in this nonsense how do you perceive hillary clinton in this whole fiasco oh well if illuminati exists then she's part of them what makes you say that well see she she is immune to everything that that you throw at her no charges stick and she certainly finds her way into various positions


she certainly finds her way into various positions of power even when she is not in any formal position of powers she still seems to be very powerful she is very well connected her soul is a husband and there's something that transcends the the political divide in the u.s at the end of the day they're all in the same boat kind of thing deep state yeah deep state whatever you want to call it over time if you observe these events you see certain patterns that you can't really back up with data but you can see them you know keeping the deep state in mind how do you think it perceives hillary clinton obama trump now biden uh it perceives trump as a nuisance and it's got rid of him and he's lucky that he's still alive unless unlike 1966 if that was true kennedy how does it see other powerful politicians as tools bonds that's all and obama according obama is very much on the team if if it is the truth you know if


team if if it is the truth you know if the deep state is indeed an indie thing okay face of the team uh yeah for a while and now he's one of the backroom workers you know one of the more powerful people he knows how things work yeah he's been there for a while biden oh biden biden i don't know what to call him he's hardly conscious he falls off bicycles he doesn't know what he is saying he shakes hands with invisible people when he's saying something by the end by the time he's come to the end of the sentence he doesn't remember what he was saying at the beginning of the sentence he's barely coherent barely conscious so i i don't really take him very seriously so here's my question if the president of america is the leader of that country he's also very likely the face of the branding of that country when you think of america you will think of obama in 2008 you will think of trump in 2016 and you


you will think of trump in 2016 and you will think of joe biden now so how could the deep state want someone like joe biden to actually become the face of the country it's a very interesting question it's perplexing because i remember remember when i was a kid there was this summit between the us and the ussr in geneva i think i think it was 1986. ronald reagan from the us mikhail gorbachev from from the ussr and ronald reagan was the older guy so he would have appeared weaker but he dressed in such a way that he appeared more dynamic and more youthful than mikhail gorbachev and he made it a point to look better than gorbachev so the american state the american presidents has have always been very conscious that they should appear their best and they should put the best foot forward and it's all about representing representing the country and being the face of the country and enhancing the brand which is why it's very perplexing that they have they


is why it's very perplexing that they have they have somebody like mr biden as the president the only answer i would be able to give is that if the deep state is truly in charge of everything then possibly they don't they no longer care how the world sees them that's the only answer i would have to give nothing else they no longer care how people perceive them they're just gonna go ahead and do whatever they wish to do or maybe your female president is getting elected next maybe it's the the prelude to bringing in a free female president that white men are now passive we don't need them anymore see what happened the last time let's get in a female president now and maybe hopefully a black president black female president maybe maybe kamala harris maybe kamala wow just imagine that imagine lady kamala as the president that could very well happen in a couple of years 24 who knows how do you think joe biden's legacy is shaping up as


think joe biden's legacy is shaping up as of now i don't think he has much of a legacy to leave behind i think it's all about inflation the inflation has gone beyond it's gone out of control ever since he came to power essentially everything trump said would happen has happened so i think if it goes like this it's gonna he's gonna be he's gonna end up being remembered as somebody who's even weaker than jimmy carter jimmy carter is considered to be one of the weakest and you worst president of the past 100 years if it continues like this joe biden will be remembered as even worse than jimmy carter um one last question this is for american viewers purely and listeners the geopolitical map of the world right now china is rising we've mentioned repeatedly on this podcast how they're looking to surpass usa in around the year 2050 that's what they're targeting keeping all the data points in mind do you think that's likely


the data points in mind do you think that's likely going to happen and if it is not to happen how will it not happen what will the usa have to do from a geopolitical perspective i think the biggest enemy the biggest obstacle china could face is china itself what's happening right now is that its economy is beginning to stagnate it had more than a decade of 10 plus growth it simply exploded it went exponential for the longest time it began in the late 70s it took up picked up a little bit of steam in the 80s 90s onwards it just went like a freight train now what we are facing is that china is [Music] beginning to reach the stage of a middle income nation now they can no longer afford that incredibly cheap labor to build stuff so now the economy is kind of slowing down it's around five or six percent per year officially maybe it's way lower than that unofficially in the real sense and the other problem they are


in the real sense and the other problem they are facing is that their population is rapidly aging their one child policy is bringing home disastrous consequences now every chinese person is alone they don't have any siblings they don't have any uncles they don't have any aunts they have no nieces no nephews it's a strange society they're living in and everybody is getting older the whole nation the average age is rising in a couple of decades it's going to be a greying nation there'll be very few youth uh statistically as a percentage of the population that is problematic a country that has youthful population always has a great future india still has a youthful full population the chinese are facing this demographic disaster their economy is also slowing their entire premise of replacing the us is predicated on their economy still continuing to grow their military becoming more powerful and their continuation of putting out dynamic leaders who can take the country forward but if these problems continue to accumulate the


country forward but if these problems continue to accumulate the chinese growth engine may stutter and stop and grind to a halt it won't completely grind to a halt but it will no longer be able to take them where they want to be by the time so that may put the chinese leadership under a great deal of pressure once societal pressures rise then there is strife in the country and there may not be there's already issues with covered and all that the very harsh lockdowns they've imposed there has been open descent in society and that's coming out in social media which is very rare for china so there are problems there are cracks appearing they may still be able to control it right now but as time progresses there may be problems that creep up and accumulate and become too too large to bear so then the chinese may kind of panic they may decide that whatever we can grab now let's grab it and go to war try to grab taiwan grab some grab something else take over


grab taiwan grab some grab something else take over japan attack india they could do something stupid they'd do something stupid a whole lot of dominoes will fall and then we could have anything that could ensue so i think that the chinese could be stuttering right now they may not be quite on track to achieve what they wish to achieve they still have the big economy they still have the industries but will they be able to sustain it for the next 20 years that's a big question [Music] again lots more to unpack but i would actually direct viewers to the first podcast that we did in the series which is the world war 3 podcast uh i think we did it about three or four episodes ago we will be linking it down below all i want to say right now is especially for american viewers and listeners if you all have listened to the podcast till this point drop your suggestions about future topics we're here to break down geopolitics even further uh send your questions sir


geopolitics even further uh send your questions sir what is your twitter handle object chowder okay uh i might be a biceps guy tag us send your questions send your suggestion send your feedback we are trying to appeal to american audiences european audiences african audiences australian audiences and kind of speak about geopolitics from a perspective that traditional news media cannot speak from so do you have any signing of notes keeping that objective perspective in mind uh it's always beneficial to look at different angles and we are speaking maybe from a neutral perspective or maybe from an indian perspective but it's a different perspective if it's one that you typically will not see in the west or recently our foreign affairs minister external office minister dr jayshankar went and gave a series of interviews in the west none of that was covered even though he gives a very different perspective to how the world works especially he in europe he told the interlocutors over there that europe needs to grow up and


over there that europe needs to grow up and wake up and realize that europe's problems are not necessarily the whole world's problems when you don't think that the world's problems are not yours so there's a whole different perspective that comes out of india and india is now a genuine big player in geopolitics india now matters whether people like it or not so it is important for the world to also try and understand the indian perspective because we don't see it from those binaries that that exist in the west so that would be great for the whole world to understand things in a more rounded manner thank you this was a fantastic episode as usual looking forward to creating a lot more it's about 12 25 a.m we've been recording all day to bring you the best possible content any last signing of notes for the future thank you everybody for watching thank you thank you guys thank you so much all right that was the final part of our three-part special on world history and geopolitics of


our three-part special on world history and geopolitics of course there's countless more episodes to be created with abhijit chavral this entire series was made keeping in mind the international audiences so if you're a citizen of a country that's not india my request to you is to share this episode as much as possible my humble request to you is that i'm trying to grow internationally you know we're trying to take the podcast internationally and we do believe that indian perspectives indian minds indian experience has a lot to add when it comes to the world stage trs is just one of those mediums that will introduce you to the world of indian podcasts speaking about an indian podcast there's no one better than abhijit javada so i do recommend you go check out all our other episodes that we did with him i also recommend you follow us on spotify trs is a spotify exclusive every episode's available on spotify 48 hours before it's available anywhere else in the world i would like you all to


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even a corporate cricketer who has no future in cricket just to have the bragging rights on a sunday night he practices four to five hours a week cricket is a religion in this country and there will be more number of people playing the sport the footfalls playing the sport is going to increase exponentially in the years to come india will have four to five international teams if possible still that little bit of hyper thing is there that is dinesh karthik you can't take that out of him and he's an outcome out cricket nut he can talk and live and breathe cricket 24 hours by any chance if you go for shopping with them you can be rest assured that your pockets will be empty you will ensure that you buy truckloads of things for your own self and he can sell eyes to eskimos if you're an indian sports fan you'd know that the 2010s decade was the one where indian cricket evolved into appreciating and celebrating the role of fitness in the sport


and celebrating the role of fitness in the sport virat kohli himself attributes this change to today's podcast guest mr basushankar was the head of strength and conditioning for the indian cricket team when virat kohli went through his own evolution and because kohli was the captain this culture of fitness took over the entire indian cricket team and because indian cricket is at the forefront of culture in our country personally even beer biceps is a beneficiary of that cultural revolution that we saw in our country because i started off as just a fitness channel basu shankar has been a dream guest on my podcast for the longest time and he's finally here on the runway show today before i let you slip into the episode make sure you follow us on spotify trs is a spotify exclusive which means that every episode is available on spotify 48 hours before it's available anywhere else in the world lots of anecdotes from the world of cricket lots of sports science on this one so whether you're


lots of sports science on this one so whether you're a budding athlete whether you're a fitness freak or even if you just enjoy informative conversation centered around biology you're going to absolutely love vasu shankar on the ranveer show [Music] welcome to the ranvi show so much to ask you so much to unpack your one of my original guests that i had on my list when this podcast began thank you for being here so you've done really well for yourself from me what a place and it's an absolute pleasure to be here no thank you sir um you know i have a lot of questions related to fitness health sports conditioning and of course honestly i'm a huge cricket fan uh i'm a huge fan of the world of fitness science and that's what this podcast is for me i want to learn a lot more about two of my favorite subjects so i don't even know where to begin how do you let these two worlds kind of converge in your eyes i mean first of all


converge in your eyes i mean first of all uh i was an athlete myself it all started way back my mother was an athlete my mother was a sprinter so i think one led to another so when my athletic career just concluded i was looking for something more i wanted a bigger bite or something and i didn't want to be a regular run-of-the-mill coach i wanted to be something very different i wanted to explore into the world of exercise science and strength and conditioning and back in the 90s when i wanted to do this a lot of people thought i was off my head yeah this culture of weights and sports conditioning generally i think came in in the early 2010s i would say i mean it got really serious uh around the 2007-8 people were always into the gym and bodybuilding and all those things the thing of sports conditioning specific training that so-called functional training so many other things came probably after 2006-7 and it's still growing this is still a very growing industry and i would


this is still a very growing industry and i would say a lot of scope for this industry and the next 30 40 years is going to be very critical and it's going to still it's like a stock market you buy now you're going to get the returns 30 years later yeah yeah and you know the people can definitely jump into this industry now yeah the best thing is you actually see it in the mainstream as well uh you know especially in urban centers all over the world people are very into the scientific aspects of fitness um you know be it be measuring your own heartbeat be it measuring your own glucose levels i think fitness science has reached that point in mainstream where people want to kind of dive within their own bodies from a scientific perspective one end i think a lot of processed food and inorganic stuff another end you have seen extremes talking about only about organic food aura ring ultra human and all these objective measures there's a good fight going on i think the fitness aficionados are moving


going on i think the fitness aficionados are moving towards objective numbers and they want to measure everything they want to analyze everything they want to hire the best experts to get their bodies in great shape and they want to use science to the fullest and to the point where they feel that even i spoke to a director usually a film director he says he's a very very famous director in chennai he says if you want to become a very good film director you need to be supremely fit that's where the world is today and i think anybody who wants to take a fitness as a career if it is your passion jump into it and you will get rich dividends out of this yeah 100 so is it fair to say someone like coley now see his fitness is at the center of his career he probably knows enough about fitness to become a coach himself absolutely i i'm right in saying that absolutely okay he knows his body in and out i'm asking this from my own perspective because


out i'm asking this from my own perspective because when i went vegetarian i had to really adjust kind of my routine or my recovery period all that what happened when he went vegetarian as his coach did you have to like adjust a lot of obviously i mean i mean the human body does not know whether you're a vegetarian or non-vegetarian it only identifies as macronutrients and micronutrients we need to find the balance and you know very well that protein is subdivided into amino acids you make sure that you give the right food so that you cover all the amino acids you don't want incomplete proteins in your system and you need to have the good fats in your system and so we had to make adjustments and like fish to order he took to it and whenever he needs to make any adjustments and all we all have a conversation and he'll always have pertinent questions once he's convinced there's no looking back uh do you follow other sports yeah of course uh do you


you follow other sports yeah of course uh do you follow basketball by big time i'm a nut oh wow i'm a basketball nut okay and i was very upset this year that james and his team you're not qualified you're a lebron fan and then i had to go with boston's analytics because i've seen enough of stefan curry exactly jason staton okay i followed well i think you give him another couple of years and he's going to he'll win yeah he's already one i mean he will get a ring yeah 100 um that team also has some kind of solid foundation some solid difference and uh i'm a proper nba nut okay i lost both my knees for basketball i have acl tests in both my legs playing recreational basketball for almost 10 15 years to the point where uh when i got married my wife thought it was often at 3 30 back in the 90s any chicago bull smash i will go crazy oh okay biggest uh jordan fan and that time phil jackson and


uh jordan fan and that time phil jackson and this three beats wow it was another time wow okay again just so much to unpack here so uh we will get back to talking about health let's switch to cricket again now let's talk about one of the country's all-time greatest heroes ms dhoni i'm sure like you know you've had your experience working with him as well what's his kind of fitness regime like how is he sustained for so long i am sure he's someone who has a lot of natural muscle mass he's always been someone who's physically strong he amazed me i mean i saw i must i mean i i got into the team in 2015 of course i've seen him before too he's a hilly boy i think he's a pahadi they call him party yeah he's a strongly built guy i mean rishabh is the same okay a power niggy is the same i think this anu jaravat is the same as for ipl now i think these guys who come from the


ipl now i think these guys who come from the hilly regions are naturally very very very strong and to play the game of cricket i think they are already built like an ox and i think emma's played a lot of sport in his younger days i think soccer has been his favorite yeah i've seen him play soccer the way he kicks the ball he can pack a punch back to punch i mean when i got into the team i was already towards the end of us i mean probably in his home stretch it was more of taking care of his body if he plays a match of practice recovery was more important and he had his own ways to do things and i never troubled him on that here and there he'll ask me a few things and i will help him what was his own way of doing things i mean uh forum primarily it was a skill practice okay so he used to battle a lot and then he believed in a lot of recovery in between matches and when he goes to


recovery in between matches and when he goes to offseason i like anybody else i'll ask him do you want to follow up or something i mean he'll ask a few things oh what can i do for ql or what should i do for this and that to be very honest i will never take credit for anything he's done he knew exactly what he was doing and even the exercise regime which he probably followed was something which he has arrived over a period of time gotcha and he was self-taught it was a natural i think he was gifted with supreme strength and that carried him through he's 40 plus and still playing and i would say that he's really gifted that's all i could say i mean i will never ever take credit for something which have not done he had his own stuff and uh he knew exactly what he was doing and he was very well sorted with his own stuff you know you mentioned about how possibly pahadis are more well-built and i completely agree i have noticed


more well-built and i completely agree i have noticed this as well um when we're talking about a country like india which is so many different geographies so many different almost micro ethnicities put together do you sense sort of genetic differences in people from different parts of the country absolutely physically yeah let's talk about it from a cricket perspective so you can like give something from a cricket perspective like punjabis like [Music] kohli these guys are uh i mean i think they're basically warriors um i think during war times also they were in the forefront taking everything yeah and i think it comes naturally for them to be that feisty and being strong resilient robust i think all these things come naturally to them and they like fish to water when they start training body just gets chiseled man like mumbai i remember when he first came into the team he was not the fittest uh okay he was a very skilled bowler but then i set up a nice blueprint and he said this is


set up a nice blueprint and he said this is the direction we are going in here's another he will follow to the tea he's a professional some years later after some training one day put an instagram with a six-pack shikhar down is the same he loves his training regime chiseled strong guys and i definitely feel these guys are genetically blessed and they work very hard and i think i think somewhere i noticed that i mean i've been to punjab many times these guys from delhi punjab i think they all love to work out and look good they also like the cosmetic part 100 uh aesthetics are a part of being punjabi yeah i don't know whether it's got to do with the geography but they all come the same mold yeah yeah 100 um there's also a lot of teamwork uh like i think they're all team players at least maybe i'm just batting on behalf of all punjabi um would you say that there's a role of dairy as well uh maybe derry from


role of dairy as well uh maybe derry from any reason yeah i think we can have this podcast till the morning let's do it let's do it i mean i think several centuries back there was a lactose mutation stuff like that there are several papers and research written on those things and i think a lot of people are definitely lactose intolerant and a lot of people are lactose tolerant also but again the quality of milk again we can talk about it i think if we do that this whole podcast will be about lactose intolerance tolerance and glucose i mean gluten intolerance and intolerance and we can go on and on specifically about dairy i mean um punjab generally consumes a lot of dairy i spoke to this guy called um he's from rajasthan yeah what do you have he's got a proper eight pack proper eight pack and that's what you add morning paratha milk milk evening paratha milk night also the same and they have so much of


night also the same and they have so much of ghee and butter and everything whatever and this is exactly what he eats so it has worked brilliantly for him somebody said oh so should we change that i said nothing it does work brilliantly for you why change at all i only request all the young trainers physios nutritionists strength and conditioning goals do not try to mend something which is not broken okay he's got an eight pack no where in the hell you want to interfere yeah as it was you continue what are you doing we're doing something very right would you put paneer in the same category same if it's working for you somebody's i mean he eats a lot of money too instantly okay and i tried taking a dietary recall which is very converse to what i'm thinking but it has worked brilliantly for him and if you see him he's built like a truck and why in the hell will i change i said your mother is the best dietitian for you in the world


mother is the best dietitian for you in the world follow it how do you increase a fast ball of speed but like i remember bhuvaneshwar kumar had this surge in speed uh after for him what we i did was i introduced him to weightlifting it was just waiting just weightlifting and it was just the bar marble just a 20kg like a clean and jokingly only with the barbell to start with wow and more than wired it it worked magic on bones for kumara forum it suited so every a lot of trainers thought for everyone i was giving weightlifting no no it is like uh i have a product and i tried matching it with something it works so it is very i mean you need to take the right tool for the right boy god the right athlete that's the most important thing it worked like magic for bonus mark i think he increases speed by almost 10k 10 clicks yeah and then he always had the talent and then slowly from that verbally mode to basic weights we just


from that verbally mode to basic weights we just did so what basically i tried doing was i wanted to introduce him to power and speed strength i wanted him to move weights a little faster light weights with explosive that worked like magic i think brett leo said that we had bradley on the show he said that he used to just do lightweights high reps and explosive movements if you train slow you become slow if you train fast you become fast as simple as that but again this thumb rule doesn't work for everyone that's what as i grow older for the one thing i've understood is i don't have any confirmation bias [Music] like we say horses for courses let the horse come then i'll decide the course you know why are we seeing an imran malik now you know after so many years of cricket being in india why is there a bowler who's like so fast in the last four or five years there are a lot of young indian bowlers are going 140 plus now 140


young indian bowlers are going 140 plus now 140 plus in this ipl became 145 plus a lot of them are going 145 plus so omran malek probably is a quickest in that there was a time when indian bowlers were not bowling that quick so if somebody bowls 140 they were looking like express wow somebody's bowling 140 that 114 now the new bounty has become boomers bowl went for 50 already i think birthdays match in 2017 or 18. just that malik is doing it consistently so you just raise the bar a little and i have no idea about what he has done he's coming from kashmir and only thing i heard from dale stein was he was very excited seeing him somebody steaming in and bowling quick day in day out even in the nets i believe he steams him and uh my only i mean it's not a negative thought my only passive thought in my mind is oh my god he's rolling really quick hope he does not have a stress reaction in the near future


does not have a stress reaction in the near future i'm sure they take very good care of him and he's in safe hands and if you can nurture him this fellow is going to be a national treasure do you think i mean feel free not to answer this do you think there's ever been any form of steroid use in cricket ever i don't think so i've i've definitely not come across anything i don't think the cricket is still aware of that i think the max they've gone is creating oh okay okay let's talk about creating and cricket because creatine it's helped me so much in my weight training i mean two things are definitely i if you ask me this ten years back i was a czech practitioner i will talk on organic for sure now definitely two supplements you have to use this one is creatine one is v protein okay not plant protein again it depends on i mean uh the best way to find out which protein works for you put this super sapience on ultrahuman


for you put this super sapience on ultrahuman and consume whey protein and see how much your glycemic indecosa the one which doesn't go up and stays balanced is the one for you and post consuming it there should not be much of bloating some of them have bloating this is also pimple problems and also some of them are not okay with the way concentrate they're only okay with isolated isolate some of them okay only with hydrolyzed water so it depends on what suits you and some of them are okay only with vegan sort of protein yeah plant protein p protein again you need to shop and see what works for you from a cosmetic perspective this is what i have figured that a lot of people especially indian genetics for some reason in urban centers of course it's because of a bunch of reasons but whey protein enhances pimples and acne as well so a lot of young kids are kind of moving towards plant protein for the same reasons why see what's also seen like


the same reasons why see what's also seen like i've given vegan nutrition for a lot of people and they said doesn't suit me oh okay i'm getting allergies getting i mean one of our clients had reddening all over the body so then i had to shift them to normal whey protein so i've seen both sides both sides yeah you know i love that basu jungkook himself is talking about supplements on the show uh we're still living in a generation of um indian kids where they're struggling to convince their parents about supplements in general i strongly feel especially in india where we are primarily vegetarian throughout the week there is room for supplements in your diet if you can afford it and say if it's out of your budget at least have eggs you know at least have uh and if you're pure vegetarian figure out what vegetarian protein sources are but chase protein requirements very important um asians in general asians i mean i mean this will consume as much protein as the western


mean this will consume as much protein as the western counterparts and more so in the subcontinent what would you like to tell indian parents who are not allowing their kids to take supplements and your you've trained virat kohli himself you've trained ms dhoni these kind of people what would you like to say protein in every meal protein and good fats i would say when i say good fats the good old butter fruit if you can afford it consume it as much as possible every day also a butter fruit a day keeps the doctor away it's not that it's not actually apple what butter fruit butter fruit avocado oh okay okay okay avocado avocado is a dream fruit and on top of that eggs if you can't afford meat every day at least eggs worst case you can't afford this tofu okay that's relatively cheaper dal okay choose any food items which is good in fats and protein every meal because whether we like it or not from morning to evening all we do is consume


from morning to evening all we do is consume carbohydrates have you seen crickets following ketogenic diets and all this they do try a few diets one diet which does not has not worked i would say has not worked as intermittent fasting has not worked i don't think it works for athletes because they lose muscle mass when somebody loses muscle mass when i say lean body mass if they lose that i lose my okay if you lose if you lose muscle mass what happens your ability to produce force goes down drastically and that is the last thing you want as an athlete you need to produce force i mean intermittent fasting is i think it's for general clients yeah i mean you you can try it out on odd occasions i mean as an athlete your body composition is supposed to be in good stead if it is not then probably you can try it for a short while but if you're losing muscle mass stop hmm your job is to produce force on a field of sport yeah and you


produce force on a field of sport yeah and you can't afford to compromise on that hmm let's speak out creatine so um do cricketers in the modern indian team use creativity of course everyone's on creatine i think most of them are aware and most of them are consuming and the right doses and they're pretty cognizant about how to use it in fact they can give you how to they can give you a lecture on how to use it also so in when you're supplementing with creatine some people take on a phase of loading where they take 10 grams ish what i do i mean i initially introduced them 5 grams with breakfast the reason with breakfast is i mean i like to add creatine with food because the rate of bioavailability is much higher initially then second half i split the dosage one with breakfast and one just before training 30 minutes and if you do it for two months your cell volume goes up you give 10 grams for two months no no not for two grams first


for two months no no not for two grams first month is just five grams okay and uh the second month probably it's three and three or four and four grams okay or four grams and max is 8 grams sometimes 10 grams that is a max of use then i sort of deload there's also a whole phase of drinking a lot of water that you're supposed to take while loading i mean that's that goes without saying you need to hydrate yourself properly but it's even more on creatine when you're using creatine again what happened this hype started some years back i mean i don't want to get into any controversy with regards to nutritionist or physicians who talk about this but so you're the authority so let me just put that like if you look at the 1980s okay lynnford christie sally gunnell mark jackson they were the first experience of creating and they all won gold medals in the olympics they started the creatine revolution and ever since it is only taken off and everyone now uses


since it is only taken off and everyone now uses creatine and it is absolutely safe it has been time tested only request is please do check your serum creatinine levels blood your blood work check your serum creatine levels if you feel if you feel there's something altering with your serum greater levels consult a nephrologist that is my only disclaimer here otherwise it's absolutely safe to if you're apparently healthy adults can consume creatine and in my clinic i've noticed that women who come especially from vegetarian backgrounds they have very little creatine and they have a lot of aches and pains and i start giving them a dose of creatine their pain levels alleviate and that is a boon for me what about phases without creating so like how do you bring your athletes off it like and how long do you take them off i say one month on one month of one month okay i mean and that's the way to do it and there can be a couple of months without creating also if you're if


couple of months without creating also if you're if you're a non-vegetarian and you're a proper meat eater i'll i'll wean them off creative i'll only use it in phases is there a place for red meat in professional sport all the time okay it's it's beneficial i feel it's highly beneficial it's not only the red meat please eat the good part the fat part everything eat the meat in full i'll give you an example of eskimos okay and there's a good book called good calories bad calories by guarantees yeah yeah the eskimos they had only meat all their life they never had a case of heart attack the first eskimo came to the city uh he was introduced to burgers and pizzas and stuff like that that is first attack so he was absolutely fine with huge amount of red meat yeah uh have to talk a little bit about yoga is it making its way to international sport yoga is very very good okay it comes from the eastern side of the world so


it comes from the eastern side of the world so the westerners find it very very appealing we in general have noticed that indians are quite flexible we have the mobility thanks to indian toilet at least for the previous generation and sitting down and eating and all those things we were generally more mobile and flexible than the western counterparts for them flexibility and they're little rigid some of them at least so yoga was usually beneficial for them but again in the modern uh scientific world there are equally good methods which can actually uh match yoga also like benefit your flexibility yeah and like like you train with a proper coach you will definitely have several models of parenting where you improve your mobility and flexibility and sometimes they say yoga's great okay also if you don't invent new words for flexibility um gotcha it's great that's great but if you're hyper mobile already it's highly contraindicated you can get injured probably when coming even more there's something called let's say that you you try


there's something called let's say that you you try bending your little finger as it 90 degree give yourself a mark the other side yeah just extend your arm and see whether it's hyper extended slightly probably one mark the other side when you stand similarly in your knees if it is hyperextended and if you can touch your ground flat the ground and see whether you can touch the thumb to the rest you can no it's about so no marks so if this score is out of nine if the score is more than four you are actually contraindicated for stretching okay if it is below two then yoga will work brilliantly for you so basically your body still so look at the body as a cycle spoke if it is too tight you need to loosen it if it is too loose you need to tighten it people are hyper mobile they need to hit the gym more often yeah i think there's also a study recently which spoke about just keeping your back straight you know with a correct posture uh i


back straight you know with a correct posture uh i think even something like 15 minutes spent to the correct posture was shown to increase some certain amount of testosterone posture thing which i've gone i've i've been a victim of it for 10 years honestly speaking uh how much of this postural correction works i don't know i've tried it for 10 years and what i noticed is again let's not reinvent new words for strength training do proper strength training okay do your warm up properly do your recovery properly look at it more holistically okay get your nutrition in good stead sleep well okay this posture thing oh forward hit i mean i've worked so on so many clients oh you've got a function you need to retry it you're having a sort of a thoracic curvature oh like quasimodo you need to straighten up retract if you have the right program with the right mix the ingredient has to be in right stead if you can do that consistently again i always finish with good nutrition and good


again i always finish with good nutrition and good sleep cycle you will reach your goal eventually again i'm telling you you need to have the right dose of strength the rep range the number of sets the selection of exercises is it really helping you is it integrated or is it isolated if you're giving isolated why isolate it if you're giving integrated why integrate if you can ask a why for everything you put in a program and if it can sort of result in a good result with your clients that is everything speaking about recovery and these things so uh one more genuine cricket fan question why don't we see so many symboling all-rounders in india like now there's a hard vijay shankar um but you know why hasn't there been more like you you almost always see these team boring all-rounders in england south africa australia and new zealand there's a slight lack of them in india is that because of the kind of coaching these kids are getting at uh their


kind of coaching these kids are getting at uh their cricket coaching centers when they're growing up is it a fitness thing can it be changed through fitness i will stick to my lane with regards to fitness uh definitely demanding for an all-rounder no doubt about that but if you look at history from the 70s itself all rounders are always rare you can hear and there you get one back in the days there was four guys at one time like imran khan was there kapil there was richard hadley ian botham after that there's been a lull never had a genuine all-arounder i mean this is just a spectator talking about this and now you have hardik even ben stokes here and flintoff jacques i mean those type of people are rare they come once in 10 years 15 years i think it happens or it doesn't that's it i don't i don't think there's a rhyme or reason for it do you think it's in the psychology of the person like he


it's in the psychology of the person like he wants to do everything wants the ball he wants to back probably probably you're right he wants to be the shinosha of all the eyes have you worked with artik yeah very much what's he like as a person a great guy he's a great guy i mean i remember uh 2019 world cup it was posted ipl i think and you're sure obviously a lot of matches he said please get me through this world cup i need to be fit got him through and uh he's a great guy and easy to work with him if you convince him again he'll do whatever you want them to do and obviously the demand of an all-rounder is very different and understanding his body and he has not played much of junior cricket so suddenly he has been catapulted to international levels and the loads are much higher and he has to do day in day out i think he's getting used to it now and of course fast bowlers and all-rounders are all


and of course fast bowlers and all-rounders are all going to get enjoyed every now and then that's part and parcel of the game character-wise what do you think has helped him kind of reach the top extreme self belief extreme self belief champion captain material i mean i have not seen that part because i've not been in the team now for i mean time will tell of course with ipl he has done magic now this year with gujarat titans he must be doing something right um another player who a lot of cricket fans have their eyes on is rishabh panzo i remember seeing rishab in sri lanka he came to the nida staff i think even before the west indies i remember telling him that you know you are extraordinary gymnast please call a gymnastic coach and thank him for what you're doing now he was like flummoxed i said what he can do a kip off he can do a front flip you can do a backflip you must have seen it in television sir and


you must have seen it in television sir and he's got the explosive ability because of i think he's done a lot of gymnastics in his formative years and same thing i've told sriram now sridhara and sri lanka the coach for rcb and australian team his son he wanted to start training i said sriram put them in gymnastics and within a year i think this boy wanna sort of a small tournament in gymnastics he can do all those things and apparently he's playing very well now i think gymnastics also play a major role in development as an athlete and not all of them will get the opportunity to do that but if you can do that at a very young age nothing like it and probably that has helped a lot for rishabh yeah um i did a lot of judo when i was younger built up my legs helped a lot of my balance and there was a lot of gymnastics involved i'm assuming that it's the same thing that it's your


assuming that it's the same thing that it's your lower body strength that gets built and your balance and uh rishabh if you notice he's very acrobatic because of that you can jump you can flip you can do anything but in batting do you think that helps i'm not a conure of batting but i'm sure all these things help i mean i always believe in multi-direction approach to life itself i think a multi-directional approach to sport is definitely the need of the hour when you play five sports and then you pick up one sport you will def abd will yes classic example i am sure he could have represented south africa and tennis i've spoken to myself and uh recorded out of his mouth he has run sub 11 400 meters and very shyly he said yeah maybe he'll say that very shy to talk about himself he can play excellent golf play squash you name it excellent any sport i think in pretoria the place where he grew up there was an opportunity for him to


grew up there was an opportunity for him to play a lot of sport and what an athlete he's called 360 for some reason and i've seen it with my own eyes some of the knocks he's played more than the cricket part the way he executes the shots huh it's breathtaking what's the physical angle of that like why can't all players be that mr 360. i'll tell you i mean a few facts because i'm as i told you can run some 1100 meters not now probably in the same days i am sure you can run a 5k sub 20 minutes and if you ask him to do a vertical jump probably jump 75 centimeters and he can hit the ball out of the stadium and suddenly after you tell him go play a golf field play a handicap of five or six i don't know you can if you ask him to play table tennis you might have never held a racket straight away you'll come in at the forehand by playing oh i read this book called arranged by


by playing oh i read this book called arranged by david epstein no in one hand he talks about roger federer on the other hand he talks about tiger rule tiger roots is all about isolation specialization early roger federer is all about playing multi-sport museum he played a lot of sports and then he finally got into tennis and we have seen the results of both same thing with abt williams he's probably gone the roger federer away played multisport probably would have represented south africa and rugby or hockey or whatever whichever sport he wanted to play but then he chose cricket finally and then he's a phenomena he's not a cricketer it's a phenomenon i mean the economic way of looking at it is now the rich kids and the kids on the other end of spectrum probably have the uh opportunities to do this because the other end of the spectrum is in empty ground small town india rich kids have turfs it's all the kids in the middle middle class


it's all the kids in the middle middle class india will take a hit um probably right um speaking about middle class india gotta talk about a country on a team that's right next to us what's gone right for pakistan cricket according to you do you think they saw virat kohli got inspired to take up the whole fitness side of things and that's why the team has started performing so well lately they reached a world cup final yes for sure they did definitely well and many congratulations to them but then time will tell it is i mean they say one cuckoo doesn't make a summer so we need to wait and watch do you notice anything about barbara azam's fitness specifically he's batting brilliantly and i can only tell it from or from what i've seen in television is batting brilliantly i don't know how much of it is fitness i really don't know are you able to break down visually when you see someone's game are you able to always been betting very


game are you able to always been betting very well just that he's coming of age no are you able to break down someone's fitness i can only say that i visually i could see i could see virat kohli i saw that personally i could see that i saw bhuvaneshwar personally i could see that bhumbra personally i saw that that's what kale roll coming of it personally i've seen that yes it made a difference for some of them you may not be able to apparently see it but these uh examples which i told you i could visually i could see the difference okay i've seen it for dinesh karthik visually let's talk about danesh karthik so there's this whole he's kind of become a revolution on social media as well i think there's not a single cricket fan in the country who doesn't adore the national arctic so what's gone right for him how's he sustained so long i remember seeing him as one of my earliest memories in cricket like


as one of my earliest memories in cricket like i started watching cricket properly in 2001 2002 he was playing in the under 19 world cup he was a keeper that time and it's 2022 now yeah he's like i would say he's like the benjamin button as he grows older he's getting younger and younger getting fitter and fitter and he's like old wine is getting better and better yeah and i think he's in a very very happy space now he's recently blessed with twins and uh his wife deepika palikal i know her very welcome i know them from age 12 and he's in a happy space and surrounded by friends and i think he went through some rough patches in this personal side also and right now i think he's in the other side everything is green now and i think with regards to his performance on the field i think a lot of credit goes to abhishek nair i think he's done a lot of work with him and on top of that i think he's


with him and on top of that i think he's enjoying it now yeah he is he's in a bliss what we call it the zone he's in a zone now i think happiness has something to do with recovery and performance so i can't put my finger and say that will happen for everyone but i think it has worked for dinesh but the very fact that i never thought he's going to come back to the indian team honestly if you had asked me one year back i'd say come on satri i thought it was over but this man is like you can repeatedly pursue his dream and i think his ability to bounce back i mean there was a period where he lost out on the race because of dhoni and the dhoni i lost out a lot and to take that hit and come back work work work he came to indian team as an opener some years back then he lost that then again he came back as a sort of a batsman keeper back up something like that this


a batsman keeper back up something like that this time as a finisher the number of avatars is taken to come back in i mean we heard about jimmy amanda doing the number of comebacks back in the days i think dinesh kathy must have 30 to 40 times come back to the indian team yeah but now i think all his dreams and his want to say has come true finally he's vindicated he feels that he's got the tag of one of the greatest finishers in the game and knowing dinesh karthik very well he will be at peace with that yeah i mean if he had finished off his career without doing this part now he'd have been a very upset man and i think a lot of credit goes to him and his entourage and uh i would give a lot of credit to nayer also yeah because he believes in him and he has delivered for him so it's a team in football there's a saying called the streets we'll never forget so they named these really


streets we'll never forget so they named these really hipster footballers who were icons there's a guy called dimitri pae there's a guy called meechu you know these iconic footballers dinesh is a cricketer that the streets will never forget that's most of us training here in mumbai only mm-hmm i mean i know his typical day he's a mad punk he'll bat from morning nine to evening four o'clock and he's a person who believes in volume but this madness now has got a method and on the right i mean the right page of cricket i'm saying is 36 or something 37 whatever i think is matured as a person used to be hyper when he was young now he's a lot more calmer still that little bit of hyper thing is there that is kathy you can't take that out of him but i think is he understands the game as a whole now i mean playing the game with talent is one understanding the entire game falling in love that entire process i


entire game falling in love that entire process i think he has fallen in love with the process and he's an outcome out cricket nut he can talk and live and breathe cricket 24 hours tell him sometimes you talk only cricket 24 hours and apart from that he's a very interesting character he can talk about movies he can talk about trends and if by any chance if you go for shopping with them you can be rest assured that your pockets will be empty you will ensure that you buy truckloads of things for your own self and he can sell eyes to eskimos vinesh karthik needs to be on the podcast and i'll tell you why there's a lot to learn from him everyone's aware of what happened in his personal life some years ago and a lot of young men in the country need to hear a story like that from the horse's mouth i think he's in a uh to put to cut a long story short i think he's evolved as a person yeah and he's in a


evolved as a person yeah and he's in a very happy space and his understanding of the sport and his purpose of life i think he has converged all these things in a package and he's just enjoying staying all sports fans in india will agree when i say that dinesh karthik is one of the greatest sports stories this country has seen what's he gonna do after cricket according to you knowing him so well he'll be one of the best commentators in the world without a doubt okay and remember last year the interviews in england interviews in england and i think michael holding told him sort of is it of the commentary field and he came with 27 suitcases with 40 odd suits and stuff like that i mean i'm trying to remember michael holding had a i took a little dig at him with regard to all his dressing and fashion he'll become a fashion icon at the commentary and he comes with some interesting anecdotes and he's a good storyteller oh


interesting anecdotes and he's a good storyteller oh he can be a very good storyteller yeah i think uh personally again this is very outside perspective but when you look at someone like danish karthik you learn about mental toughness we had rhino on the podcast as well that's what i gained from so every podcast teaches me one thing in this podcast i learned the power of muscles but uh with with rhinos i'll tell you very interesting the bugger is so mentally strong but i'll tell you a flip side he's got a lot of uh [Music] i wouldn't say superstitions he would say deja vu's or routines or whatever um he's mentally very strong no doubt but by by by by a chance you say dinesh you're better by if you tell him you're batting grade you're going to score 100. probably you will stop saying hello to you if you go tell him you're batting you're going to get out early today he'll hug you he likes this


out early today he'll hug you he likes this sort of opposite way of approaching things and uh before he goes to bat you will pick one guy in the team and he'll talk to him if you see him through the series he'll be the same person he'll sit next to him talk to him and he'll call it routines and i'll make a lot of fun of you we'll take the mickey out of him all the time and that's the beauty of going on a tour taking the mickey out of him and he loves us storytelling and we have a great time you know i have a very dastardly theory um and a lot of cricket fans would actually agree to this that odi is gradually we're seeing less you know on an international level i mean there's data to back this and cricket is generally becoming test cricket and t20s maybe that's all right that's an evolution of a sport like even in basketball we saw the three-pointer revolution because of steph curry now the


the three-pointer revolution because of steph curry now the whole sport is different that opened up the sport therefore it made more weight room for slashers like janis and all that now even cricket has gone through a big evolution because of the ipl like we saw kind of roles changing up you know like everyone thought that spinners will become a real member but spinners became more important than ever leg spinners etc nowadays this whole angle of spinners should also know how to battle a little bit um but overall so where do you see the sport going in the long term uh both our fitness perspective and probably specifically for the indian cricket team um keeping the new crop in mind people like shubham angel prithwish or ishan kishan rishabanth or the bowlers you know um all these guys omran malek mohammad siraj definitely a cricket expert but uh having been with the team and having been associated with the sport for so long i think straight question to you is you prefer watching a t20 or


to you is you prefer watching a t20 or a test match t20 and if you ask this question to 120 year olds what will be the answer always 80 20. i think i'll stop you i think uh t20 cricket is going to definitely dominate the future i think discrete will be there definitely be there i think the future is t20 cricket yeah there is an audience for test cricket as well but then um ipl is exciting very very exciting and especially this year every match went to the where almost every match and there must be a reason people are signing up to watch every match and look at the interest the trp ratings and stuff like that it's just unbelievable and at the end of the day you have to cater to what the audience want you know if the audience want more of it who are we to say anything as a conditioning coach do you now have to care a lot more about endurance because there's that much more cricket to be played is that where the sport is


cricket to be played is that where the sport is going i think i would rather put it this way if it is i mean i have clearly understood the cricket now get them prepared for test cricket or t20 to a different sport according to me that is over five days so i need to take care of so many other things here it is explosive fast and furious that is like more like a 1500 meters 5000 meters there are portions where you do sprinting but this you need to endure five days slow twitch muscle fibers so the sport itself i mean uh this again i want to clear this cricket is an highly anaerobic sport it's a fast spot even if it's a test crate i'll tell you every event in a in a test match also cannot last more than nine to ten seconds that is three runs most of the time let's say that you're a bowler you run in for four seconds vola ball as a batsman you take two three seconds so any event in a


you take two three seconds so any event in a cricket field does not last more than 10 or 11 seconds that is if you run three runs most of the other events are within five to six seconds only so you repeat it over 90 hours or 50 hours or 20 hours and there is recovery period in between 30 seconds 25 seconds in between every ball but the actual event is within 5 to 10 seconds only so that is a lactic system that is your fast system so you definitely need to train your body to be fast and if you can do it repeatedly over 90 hours then it is called power endurance culture where is the indian cricket team going you like the yeah you want to dominate world sport the way this country is going i mean in fact sometimes they feel sorry for other sport every street has got tons and tons of creators actually even weekend cricketers blue star cricketers they practice as if they're professionals even corporate tournaments they all practice quite a bit even a corporate cricketer who has


quite a bit even a corporate cricketer who has no future in cricket just to have the bragging rights on a sunday night he practices four to five hours a week cricket is a religion in this country and there will be more number of people playing the sport the footfalls playing the sport is going to increase exponentially in the years to come india will have four to five international teams if possible or i'm going to say something dangerous and say what if we become an nba style system all over the world where it's ipl throughout the year i wouldn't be i wouldn't mind it yeah very interesting uh idea but bashankar sir thank you absolute dream talking to you thank you it was a pleasure i want to give you a small gift yes it's right there behind you thank you so much wow my pleasure to give you my made an effort of a book thank you this means a lot really means a lot uh i mean you've been like an idol for me uh you know