opportunity especially to people from the interiors of India real talent that's hungry for work to work in a Mumbai based company or a Bangalore based company it's giving you that opportunity this is the right time to find your dream job if you think you can execute your skills while you're sitting at home second he was learning on a personal level I slowed the down because Mumbai is one of those cities where things are extremely fast it's extremely demanding as Sippi you've got to sit in long car rides going through traffic jams it does drain you a bit the lock downs forcing everyone to be at home it's actually cooling you down a bit it's forcing you to slow down the whole world has slowed down a lot of my internal battles with mental health with self-doubt with a lack of confidence have gotten sorted out just because of staying at home spending time with family resting working much more efficiently not having that geun jet or the trouble of actually going to office through bombay


the trouble of actually going to office through bombay traffic I'm having a very comfortable very high power work output yes I am working at a very fast pace the moment the lockdown is done I will try actually taking a break and I'll go to some nearby hill station if it's possible if it's safe but this has given me the break that I very much needed and breaks your cooling down time especially you know creative industry gives you that much-needed perspective on your career see when it comes to work 80% of your work is actually doing the actions but I strongly feel that if you're in business or if you're in a creative profession 20% of your time should be spent brainstorming should be spent planning out should be spend studying should be spent thinking about what you want to do with your life over the next two or three years you have to take those timeouts that's what coronaviruses lockdown has given us a big timeout for the world yes it's a grim situation out there lots of death


it's a grim situation out there lots of death lots of illness lots of infection but you've got to focus on the positives what's it given you this is what it's given me it's given me perspective on what I want to do with my life we wanted to start multiple businesses we wanted to start like five six different businesses in 2021 to 2025 but now we've kind of locked in on one or two businesses that we want to execute over the next five years because we want to execute them with the power of focus wanna focus on those games only that's the perspective that the lockdown has given me number three I didn't actually need as much sleep as I thought I needed I always advocated eight hours or nine hours of sleep but I was talking about the kind sleep that you get in Mumbai in a noisy city like Mumbai because construction also stopped everywhere the noise in the city stopped you know in my whole life that's 27 years of living in the city I don't remember Mumbai


of living in the city I don't remember Mumbai being this quiet but that sense of quiet has actually made the whole vibe and atmosphere of the city very peaceful you sleep much better of course I focus on my sleep hygiene my room is extremely dark my room is cold my room is comfortable my bed is very comfortable and I figured that six to seven hours of sleep is more than enough for me because I focus on keeping my stomach light in your bedtime and I eat a lot of raw fruits and vegetables that's point number four I started eating very fresh which is actually benefiting other aspects of my life it's helping me with my sleep it's helping me with my brains efficiency it's helping me with the way my body looks I've gotten abs after the longest time I wasn't really focusing on my fitness because so much of my energy was going into building businesses now I'm able to focus that energy inwards I am vegetarian I've actually not been eating eggs during this


vegetarian I've actually not been eating eggs during this lockdown eating very little paneer eating very little cheese so I'm borderline vegan I'm not vegan I'm vegetarian but that vegetarian diet keeps your stomach light definitely reduces your sleep quota keeps you feeling fresh and as long as you're working out it will benefit your body my whole perspective on dieting has changed actually during this lockdown because I've seen what a pure vegetarian diet is capable of doing to your own body of your vegetarian diet combined with healthy amounts of weight training at home with my dumbbells that I've kept you and your regular jadoo pocha that's the clearing you do at home which also burns a lot of calories so I'm doing some daily cardio in the form of the cleaning and I'm also doing some resistance training with my dumbbells brains working better than ever body's looking sexier than ever and overall life is going good but one other huge aspect of life going good is point number five that


aspect of life going good is point number five that is my relationships my relationship with my mom has improved a lot we're a family of workaholics and not that we had any kind of Tiff's in the recent past but you know when you're in a family of workaholics everyone's kind of in their own zone everyone's locked into their own work this phase is giving us time to be with each other to talk she's caught up with her 27 year old adults and now after the longest time that's the downside of the YouTube career that's the downside of entrepreneurship you have to dedicate a lot of your energy your time yourself you love your business your teammates where does that love come from you grew up giving that love to your friends and the food that your family but for your family your parents for me it's my mom I'm very close to her I'd kind of stopped talking to her as much unknowingly not intentionally but the lockdown has given us time to catch up with each


lockdown has given us time to catch up with each other's spiritual growth mental growth so I we did the podcast together if you go watch that podcast those are the kind of conversations we have on a daily remember when you're dying you're not going to remember anything about your career you can remember aspects of all the relationships you've created with people you can remember the relationship you shared with your parents with your romantic interest and even with your business partners Rogers Viraj we know each other through work but we're like the tightest friends in the world but I'm dying I'm not going to remember the money we made together I'm gonna remember the memories I had with them looking around we did before big business days of being around waited before big shoots that's what I appreciate about this phase it's making me miss my bro's a lot it's making me bond with my family a lot it's making me miss my loving be mad monk entertainment I start valuing human connections even more than I


I start valuing human connections even more than I did only oh and you know what healthy relationships and a healthy body and a healthy mind does for you it creates an environment which is growth friendly this is the best point in your entire life for you to grow to the next stage if you know you want to become a particular kind of person in the future the harsh cancel the bitter truth is that it's going to happen through your habits who you're known as in the real world is an outcome of the habits you have in your life if you're a meditator if your soul meditates daily that's a habit you'll become Karma people will associate the term calm with you that's the truth this is the best time to create a new habit like meditation which is my next point even in terms of spiritual growth this is the best possible phase for you Oh point number 7 use this phase to grow spiritually and by growing spiritually I don't mean poojas I don't mean religious rituals I


mean poojas I don't mean religious rituals I mean self-awareness that is true spirituality going people within yourself understanding your brain better understanding the way your internal world works better you think aggressively in a certain way you doubt yourself because of something you hate someone because of something you've jealous of someone because of something it's all happening for a reason and you don't know those reasons yet you will know those reasons during deep meditations go within use this phase to grow spiritually use this phase to meditate daily a lot of people don't meditate for two reasons they either say there are dwarves time for meditation or they say oh I can't keep my mind stable rule number one the people who say that they don't have time for meditation are the ones who needed the most twenty minutes daily is it really not much to ask before we in the bed just sit meditate and the second if you have too many thoughts during your meditation that's how it's supposed to be I've been


that's how it's supposed to be I've been meditating for four or five years now and even I have too many thoughts of my meditation but I try pulling it back to the point of focus which could be my breath which could be a chant which could be a month or which could be positivity God whatever it is that's what meditation is sitting in one place bringing your focus back to your breath your mind will move in different places bring it back to that point of focus it could be a mantra it could be a monthly you're connected to whatever religion you follow whatever your definition of God is whoever whatever you think of when you say the word God it could just be the universe and positive light entering you bring your focus back to that one thing if you want something tangible bring it back to your breath twenty minutes daily keep your back straight cross-legged comfortable position sit on your bed one of two things will happen either you'll go into a deep state of meditation or you'd go


into a deep state of meditation or you'd go to sleep because your mind is that slowed down because of your meditations you'll improve the quality of your sleep this is the best time to begin a meditation habit and the final point why should you work on your mental health your physical health your meditation your spiritual health what's the why yes it's for your well-being is for your happiness but what you do with that happiness you improve the lives of others around you how by being a better person for sure do that but also by providing for them spiritual growth is important career growth is as important okay when your career grows when you're in a comfortable place from a material wealth standpoint that's when you can jump on to that spiritual growth bandwagon even better so focus on your self focus on your material wealth because you've got that pause button create new habits but also ask yourself what am I going to do after the Karuna virus phase is complete are you gonna have a career switch are


is complete are you gonna have a career switch are you fired from your job this is actually a very bright moment in your life if you're someone who's feeling negative about that situation trust me this could be a turning point in your life because the whole world has hit that turning point moment industries have changed forever so many businesses have shut down therefore there's such a huge vacuum there's so much money that's just waiting to be made in 2021 and 2022 in 2023 the greatest businesses are always built on waves or on big changes and this is a huge wave it's a huge big change for the world educate yourself about business educate yourself about new perspectives that was the reason for this whole podcast episode I want y'all to get a new perspective I'm an entrepreneur I figured that yes people are going to chase certain things in 2021 2022 the greatest Mudge Asians never reveal the secrets behind the magic tricks and that's all not gonna tell you all about


and that's all not gonna tell you all about my business ideas but my head is public with business ideas at this phase of my life I'm just figuring which is the best idea to chase what's gonna become the next Facebook what's gonna become the next snapchat what's gonna become the next Instagram that's what the Munk entertainment team is gonna build the only reason I'm able to think that big is because I've hit that pause button on life I'm not watching the news I'm not absorbing all the numbers of fatalities I'm thinking of growth because by watching the news or absorbing those numbers there's nothing I can do to change it I'm following lockdown restrictions and I'm focusing everything inwards this is your best shot at changing your life forever read up about the business opportunities that are coming your way post the coronavirus lockdown phase because you never have a better shot at becoming a billionaire then you have right now


every single piece of content that i ever create is meant to help you in your life in your story in your existence in some way thank you for taking the runway show to 100 episodes this particular podcast began because when i look back at my journey i wanted to shut down this channel and i just wanted to figure an easier way to make content so i thought all these beautiful conversations that were happening in my business career could be recorded and turned into content and occasionally we put up some solo episodes just like this one solo episodes of the runway show always tend to be personal always tend to be full of stories always tend to be full of romance in many ways romance doesn't just happen between two human beings it's not just about a boy and a girl this is a concept i'm gonna explain using the last couple of years of my life a couple of years of being relatively single going within myself learning more about myself my true nature the power of the


more about myself my true nature the power of the love in my heart above all the power of manifestation it's a sentence we hear a lot here's my story when it comes to the power of manifestation i have used the power of manifestation in my career to build a lot this podcast this youtube channel these youtube channels these businesses around me monk entertainment big brain company beer biceps media the other one that's coming up that's possibly my career defining business all of it began with visualization and using the power of manifestation to begin that journey let's take you back to my beginnings they say that a soul's journey on this planet in every new life begins with circumstances being born in a particular family therefore having to go through particular experiences therefore having to develop a particular personality it begins with the family you're born into both my parents are extremely spiritual people different schools of spiritual thought and that's honestly what i feel is the superpower of my family most specifically my sister


the superpower of my family most specifically my sister and myself they're also spiritual and i feel like we've gained from the best of both worlds let's talk about my mom's spiritual side a little bit more so my mom's family is from gujarat and if you guys know anything about gujarat you know that there's a lot of spiritualism generally in that part of the country people are extremely god fearing people are good in their heart they have a sense of community now in the long term story of gujarat there's been many of these little sects of spirituality what they call line of gurus and these line of gurus obviously have this section of followers now when we talk about gurus most people think oh god man oh my god that's such a negative term these photos placed behind me or the podcast i have recorded in my room i had a photo on my desk which is of one of those gurus from the sect that my mom's family follows that guru's name was


my mom's family follows that guru's name was bapuji please don't hold prejudices when you're listening to this podcast just listen to my experience of it not all god men are the way the media portrays god meant to be you can't generalize there's good ones and there's bad ones this particular god man or guru was what i call my first guru in life the word guru literally translates to the person who brings you closer to the light that's what babaji was for me i had a dark angsty angry childhood i had to get in fights i was very naughty i didn't want to study lots of temper issues because my mom's family followed babuji i'd actually go to my mum's ancestral home and spend time with him when he was visiting bombay i experienced a very early form of meditation back then with him every time i entered the room that he was sitting in i'd feel a lot of peace and somewhere in my heart i felt just like in


and somewhere in my heart i felt just like in the x-men you know when someone wants to talk to dr x dr xavier they talk through their mind i used to feel like i should talk through my mind with babuji something so crazy that my 14 year old head my 13 year old head my 10 8 year old head couldn't believe was true i'll tell you why i felt like this because often after meditating at the end of my meditation my mom would say okay now ask him what you want and i'd think about it in my head okay i want this i want that and depending on what i wished for he'd look back at me and give me a smile and i felt like his smile contained a lot more information than just happiness i felt like he was saying more through a smile i specifically remember this one time where i done really badly in my exams and my mom had taken me to meet him she made me meditate and for some reason after that meditation session in my


and for some reason after that meditation session in my heart i wanted to look up at him and i didn't want to ask him for better marks in my exam i asked him for one thing in my mind i said i know you can't give me better marks that's not in your hands but you can give me the ability to work hard the moment i finished saying that sentence in my head his eyes opened he looked at me he smiled and in a smile i felt that he was saying yes that's what i want you to ask i wanted you to ask me this that's what you should be wishing for the ability to work hard later on in life i studied about bruce lee and bruce lee had this amazing quote that i actually thought of getting tattooed on my body at one point of time the quote is this ask not for an easy life ask for the strength to endure a difficult one that's the definition of prayer for me you don't ask for specifics you ask for the


you don't ask for specifics you ask for the ability to endure whatever's thrown your way and trust your abilities enough to achieve those specifics yourself with or without prayer but with knowing that god or the universe some higher power is looking after you just yesterday we recorded a detailed podcast with luke coutinho and he spoke about a concept called providence providence is something you only understand after having achieved something in your career it could be some financial goals it could be some career goals providence basically means knowing that there's a higher power looking after you at every stage of your career and at every stage of life that's what i felt throughout my life i've lived my life with a sense of providence and only after speaking to luke did i get to know about that word then i spoke to my teams i spoke to sanjit from my beer biceps team and i said that isn't it weird that i always wanted someone like you and my team but he only came into my


you and my team but he only came into my life like a year ago if you'd come to my life earlier my life would have been way easier but i probably wasn't prepared enough as a leader to give you the right kind of tasks or to mentor you correctly and he said that yeah that's your version of providence you want my version of providences i never even really watched beer biceps i knew you existed and i don't know why but i only felt like applying to your company and then magic happened he's heading content at beer biceps today in many ways he's my vice captain on beer biceps in many ways firaj is my vice captain in the brand world monk entertainment jalaq is my vice captain in the startup world manish is my vice captain whatever i want to do next satyam is sitting on recording this he's my vice captain on instagram deals and all these people have entered my life very randomly if i scan all those moments and i ask


if i scan all those moments and i ask myself how did all these people accumulate around me it's very random and there is providence at play and all of them will agree when i say that there was providence at play in their life as well that's the power of manifestation let's go back to being 14 years old i remember really starting to study after that maybe it was all psychological maybe babuji was just a good psychologist who knew what i was thinking and he knew what to do he knew how to react or maybe there's a deeper layer of the human experience that we haven't understood yet that science hasn't understood yet and i'd like to believe the latter because i've constantly experienced miracles in my life and i've constantly felt the presence of god at this stage of my life this is not something i've revealed on the podcast i adore god in the same way that you'd adore someone who's in a relationship with you this concept is spoken about in detail in virat


you this concept is spoken about in detail in virat kohli and steve jobs all-time favorite book the autobiography of a yogi this concept is called divine love this concept makes you feel whole even when you're single it fills up that void of being single in many ways it's not a concept that everyone understands because not everyone understands the concept of god people hear about god and they think oh my god that's such an old school concept if i believe in god does that mean i believe in religion if i believe in religion does that mean that i believe in all the negative aspects of religion no if you believe in god and you choose to call it a higher power the universe a higher energy energies we're all talking about the same concept i personally call it god and when it comes to god the autobiography has this beautiful teaching the autobiography of a yogi says that every human being defines god in a particular image for some people it's just a ball of light for some


some people it's just a ball of light for some people that image is nothingness it's the universe it's the everything and the nothing for some people it's the divine feminine for some people it's the divine masculine hanumanji for some people it's jesus christ for some people it's the guru who they worship of course there's bad gurus out there we constantly hear about it there's a lot of spiritually enhanced spiritually evolved humans called gurus who have accumulated enough spiritual power to be able to guide people who are at maybe a slightly lower level of spiritual awakening that's what the world of spirituality is it is this parallel ladder that everyone's climbing on so there's the ladder that we know of the materialistic ladder the career ladder the fame and money ladder the power ladder all that's one big ladder and there's a parallel one which is beyond human existence which goes beyond this one life of yours a very close friend of mine radhika madan is


a very close friend of mine radhika madan is someone who also has been very inspired by the autobiography of a yogi and she's also been practicing deep meditations she said that earlier in life she'd always question why some people are born into privilege and why some people are born into difficulties but the moment you understand the concept of karma you understand the concept of rebirth which i truly truly believe in i do not believe that you only live once the whole world is starting to believe in this concept of karma and rebirth and for the people who say that you know how can you prove that it exists my question to you is how can you prove that it doesn't exist none of us can prove anything what we can do is feel our own experiences come to conclusions because of our own experiences or turn towards wisdom there must be some truth in that concept which has caused so many books to be written on that concept which has caused so many evolved people to turn


which has caused so many evolved people to turn to spirituality so many evolve people to talk about karma so often there has to be some truth and if you're gonna switch off that possibility completely you're limiting your own growth you have to be open that's the basis of spiritual growth be open and curious don't come to conclusions don't be stiff in the head after i graduated from school i entered a dark phase of my life in college didn't enjoy where i was became angry caught into alcohol got into marijuana just became a very tight-knit person in the head i was angsty but in that phase what also started happening to me was that i suddenly started getting a lot of dreams about god my own versions of god in my childhood i chanted the hanuman chalisa a lot so that's probably the image of god that my subconscious mind associates with god i started getting hanumanji in my dream i started getting shiv bhagwan in my dreams i started getting babuji


bhagwan in my dreams i started getting babuji in my dreams again and he had passed away by this point he had left that body that he was occupying at that point but he had not passed away he was still in this planet probably i still believe he's still in this planet i remember this one time specifically where i was angsty but i was out to prove that i wanted to do something with my life that's also why i started power lifting in life that's why i started going to the gym that regularly so this big fitness company had come to my college for the first time and my college wasn't one of those colleges which encouraged internships very random rule but that's how it was so out of the 100 and 10 120 kids that had applied for that internship i was one of three kids that got selected and my cgpa my aggregate was really low so it was kind of a little bright spot in the middle of a lot of darkness during my college years also keep in mind


of darkness during my college years also keep in mind i was really buff i was really well built so a lot of the college professors assumed that because i was well bit i was also probably a doofus i was dumb i don't know what the correlation is but that's what a lot of people assume they also assume that if you're marginally well dressed on and if you're marginally well built you're probably more inclined towards material pleasures like attracting girls and showing off but i really wasn't i was in engineering college to learn at least that's why i joined engineering college by the third year i was angsty full of rage i was looking forward to that bright spot which happened to be that fitness internship i went to my college placement professor to lock the internship because this internship offered come through the college so that's just your standard procedure i went to him and he had a reputation of being an angry dude he was one of those guys who kind of removed all his


one of those guys who kind of removed all his life's frustrations on students so i went into his room i remember wearing this blue polo t-shirt which was obviously tight on the sleeves i had massive arms back then and i said sir i've got this internship what do i do next how do i take it forward he stopped what he was doing he looked at me and he said you you don't look like you study what's your aggregate there's lots of these other nerdy kids around them would come for their own business their own job applications or whatever that's the thing about engineering college there's a lot of status games within students if a teacher is about to attack a particular student using a status game saying oh you're too dumb for this college or your marks are bad a lot of the other students kind of pile up on that soon they also start attacking the student in order to make themselves feel more secure so the moment he asked me you you don't look like you've studied


me you you don't look like you've studied you don't look like you're intelligent tell me your aggregate those other students started grinning at each other they started giggling looking at him waiting for him to pounce on me in my head i'm full of rage i'm just like yeah i've gone through this a lot in this engineering college so you're going to insult me right now and then he said [Music] which translates to please go back to the gym that's where you belong you don't belong in the professional world in front of all these other students who started giggling laughing added to the inside my brain and yours just switched off by that point but in my head i said i'll show you one day just so you know in the coming year we're going to the same engineering college but this time to recruit students just saying sorry that was a casual flex but i just want to give you hit taking students some perspective in life if someone calls you failure hold up that's not the


if someone calls you failure hold up that's not the definition of your head that's not the definition of your life anyway coming back to that moment that time there was no there and we show solo podcast right so i didn't have a reference point this was that one bright moment in my college life where i felt like yeah i finally got something going for me three out of 120 students being selected is not a joke and i'm one of those three i felt valuable again in college because most of my time in college had spent being insulted by teachers and it had really dented my self-confidence it had dented my sense of optimism it had dented my faith in god also [Music] god was probably trying to reinvigorate that faith by visiting me in my dreams through different images of harumanji or shivji or babuji this particular day i just felt numbed out man i remember going in the train with my best friend jindan butch at that point of time and i told him that yo i


point of time and i told him that yo i don't know why i took engineering college it's the beginning of our fourth year and i've just had a terrible time he just told me bro hang in there man just put up with it for like another year i was numbed out i went into my own pain i was going through a lot back then there's also a lot of alcohol and drugs speaking through me a lot of pain kind of just kept inside me this was before i took a bio meditation or became peaceful in life so there was a lot of pain inside me i'd cry a lot man in that face but on that day i knew i was gonna go home and cry a lot but i was just like okay i'm a tough power lifter i'm just gonna walk again know that and be sure to tell you hey man if you're a guy it's okay for you to cry so i'm holding on to all that angst i'm holding on to all that pain i'm


angst i'm holding on to all that pain i'm walking out of the railway station near my house again just outside the railway station near the entrance i just felt extremely dizzy felt busy and i also felt a very strange sense of deja vu the word deja vu is familiar to a lot of people i once read that deja vu are your memories from the future trippy statement right so let me explain what happened so i felt the strange sense of deja vu and i felt my head spinning and i went home and i cried and i went to sleep i tried myself to sleep i entered a really deep state of sleep where i felt like i was reliving that moment of me walking out of that railway station and i felt babuji walking next to me i felt his energy walking next to me [Music] and i remember hearing a voice in my head going you're doubting your path in life way too much this is the part you were meant to walk on if someone's making


you were meant to walk on if someone's making fun of your love for fitness today they're gonna laugh at their own words tomorrow and that was the end of the dream what the happened at beer biceps we became the world's first india specific fitness channel he began our journey in fitness fitness is such a core part of my brand today if i had listened to that professor's insult and left that fitness journey this wouldn't be possible these cameras the first camera we ever bought with beer biceps money was the money i earned by being a fitness trainer by using the same skills that came out of my love for fitness if your heart is truly beating on a particular path you need to know that your life has placed you there with a sense of providence life has provided the providence for you you need to ask yourself where am i the happiest who the people i'm the happiest around what are the activities that i do that can make me the happiest that's the part


that can make me the happiest that's the part you've got to follow i enjoy the out of podcast love podcast i love creating content like this i love creating content that is this rich it's the greatest joy of my life not the money not the fame not the attention not the power not the startups the joy of creating content this deep whether it's watched or not i know i've done my job i know i've done my research i know i've spoken to some of the world's smartest people taken out the knowledge and put it out for the world i've done my duty but it began with a sense of providence i remember waking up after that dream with a sense of okay babuji energy is back in my life providence is now a thing for me i didn't know the meaning of the word proud and still like yesterday when we recorded with luke but i felt the emotion of what providence stands for i felt taken care of i went to the gym i worked out i felt


i went to the gym i worked out i felt joyous i came out i continued my journey exactly a year after this incident i was prepping myself to work in a startup which eventually led to the formation of beer biceps your life if you are vibing with your work is leading you to where you're meant to be man it's leading you to where you're meant to be do not doubt the providence in your life as long as you are working hard and you're being 100 honest with your work zakir khan my dear big brother in the world of media told me this thing that always stayed with me i remember was going through a phase of self-doubt and i called him maybe a couple of years ago one and a half years back i think it was during the lockdown i can't remember but i had this conversation with him i said that bro i'm just feeling a strong sense of self-doubt he said you're a creative professional all of us go through it but please


creative professional all of us go through it but please understand ranveer one thing i know about you just like me is that you're a performer you're not just a doer if a job is given to you you'll do it to the best of your abilities and that's all that matters if you keep doing that if you do a job to the best of your abilities life will carry you through that could be the smallest job in the world that would be the biggest job in the world that's what i look for in all my potential team members we have a couple of new members lately and i'm easily able to tell which one is going to be a long-term fit and which one is not the one that's distracted and constantly looking for conversations to escape his work he's not a long-term fit the one who'll hold these colorful lights in his hand outside a shoot setup just to give that shoot light he's sitting behind the camera that dude's a long-term fit because he does the job of


a long-term fit because he does the job of holding the light with the same intensity that he'll do a job of creating an instagram reel with a detailed video edit with irrespective of the job you're given you have to give it your 500 irrespective of the job you've given you have to give it your 500 percent you're 500 every time that's when providence really comes into play this is one of the stories where i felt a presence of god in my dreams there are other stories i've spoken about it in other solo podcasts dreams play a big role in my life even today they guide me what plays an even bigger role is meditation long-term meditation makes you more sensitive towards prayer i feel like your prayers work way stronger when you perform them after you've meditated because they say that god visits the minds that are the calmest god loves a calm temple but to get that calm you've got to meditate daily and you know what after beer biceps began my spiritual


you know what after beer biceps began my spiritual journey also began man i'm not going to speak about it in this podcast that's a whole other podcast getting into the world of reiki getting into the world of transcendental meditation studying osho studying isha foundation studying yss settling advices for a particular reason that's a whole other story that's the kind of technical skill set required to get more providence in your life but there's always a technical skill set and a soft skill set a certain sense of faith in the world a certain sense of faith in your journey in your own abilities in your sense of positivity a certain faith in your own optimism a certain faith in providence you've got to believe that the things that are going on in your life are going your way for a reason you've got to believe that the worst moments of your life are happening because providence is trying to get you to where you're meant to be if those bad things kept sting in


to be if those bad things kept sting in your life if those bad addictions kept staying in your life if those bad habits kept staying in your life if those bad energies kept staying in your life you would not get to where providence wants to take you you would not get the way god wants to take you i've had so many spiritual experiences and miracles that i can make maybe like at least 10 to 15 more podcasts on just my experiences with god but this one is about the power of manifestation people talk about it people talk about visualizing their goals people talk about visualizing when it comes to where they wish to be in life i've interacted with satguru back in 2018 and the one thing he told me is that do not visualize about specifics if you're thinking today that yo 10 years from now i want a massive lamborghini i want a ferrari for all you know 10 years from now land-based vehicles won't be a thing maybe lamborghini ferrari won't even


be a thing maybe lamborghini ferrari won't even be around but there will be teslas that can fly and when you're sitting in that tesla that can fly you're like oh why did i even wish for that land born lamborghini i don't know the world is turning out i don't know what technology is turning out do not visualize about specifics visualize about feelings what am i trying to do through all this it's not just numbers it's not just let's make runway more famous more rich not more powerful the intention behind this game that i'm playing with my life the startups that i'm building is i want more power so that i can help those who need my power to help them providence helped me no one helped me when i started no one backed me when i started i'm not gonna let a young kid a guy a girl whatever that kid is i'm not gonna let that kid feel like he or she or they are alone i'm there for that kid that's what


are alone i'm there for that kid that's what i'm trying to do through my content that's why god keeps helping me that's why providence keeps helping me and i know that the moment i feel low in life the next day i have a podcast which lifts me up and gives me the answers that i need to hear the next day an old friend of mine messages me saying you know what let me connect you to so and so and that so and so person ends up helping me in a problem that i've been stuck on for a while that i've been praying to god for for a solution god has answered my prayers so many times in my life that with every passing day i fall deeper in love with god and i call that love divine love you don't have to fall in love with god you have to fall in love with your own sense of providence i call my sense of providence god that's divine love for me that's why i have a philippians 4 13


me that's why i have a philippians 4 13 tattoo that one on my arms that's why i've got all my tattoos they all have god as an underlying theme this was episode number 100. i didn't give you a cd i just spoke from my heart but i'm sure within the realms of this particular episode you would have found your cta if i had to give you a cta for this particular one all i'd say is have faith stay optimistic have a sense of self belief back yourself have habits in your life that allow you to work as hard as you possibly can and have a sense of humility that asks for the ability to endure difficulties rather than asking for big houses big cars power fame and money god bless you may all the providence in the world be with you you're a soldier and you're gonna achieve every single thing that you wish to achieve i love you and i hope that these videos provide some sense of providence within your existence lots of love thank you


of providence within your existence lots of love thank you for supporting the ranveer show [Music] so you


what's good you guys the following podcast contains one of the smartest spiritual conversations that you'll ever come across I'm gonna take concepts from spirituality and compare it to proven scientific concepts most specifically proven quantum physics concepts if you're new to both spirituality or quantum physics don't worry about it we're gonna explain everything in a very basic format so you'll get it easily the guest joining me in today's podcast has mr. Abhijeet Pradhan he's one of the most learned men in India is one the most well-read man he's one of India's top career coaches as well as one of India's top corporate coaches he's got a flourishing entrepreneurial career but on the side he also likes studying about all these crazy subjects he's gonna be on the podcast a lot in the future this is a first episode with Abhijeet enjoy yourselves the goal with monkey chat is called I see oh that's intelligent conversations only I've got all my most intelligent friends in


only I've got all my most intelligent friends in the house today mr. Abhijeet Pradhan he's one of India's biggest personal coaches as well as one of India's biggest corporate coaches but for me he's actually the most well-read person I've ever come across he's also got a spiritual side which is as strong as his business side so I'm easy is that like introduction all right I mean a lot of pressure but yeah how would you introduce yourself I think for me it's all about passion and perspective so for me everything has to have some element of intrigue mystery for me to explore and then try and find a point of view the perspective which suddenly makes me enjoy it far more than what maybe most would be doing yeah so that's really my biggest kick in life lore you also one of those people who goes really deep into subjects like I've never made anyone who goes as deep in the subject says you do massive complaint from my wife she can't handle it


massive complaint from my wife she can't handle it she's like no I can't handle this intensity of exploration I feel you so again follow a youtube channel I think it's a job requirement for me to go deep into things so when I heard your podcast with Vishal goon also actually like that's what struck me he's another freak like me speaking about being free care the subject for today's podcast is spirituality versus science hmm you've got a spiritual past as well you're someone who's practice Reiki you've practiced meditations sure also one of the most logical people just someone who studied quantum physics and one of the most interesting conversations I've ever had in my life was this conversation with you where you compared aspects of spirituality to concepts from quantum physics yeah let's get to that later in the podcast sure first I want to ask you man you you had like a difficult past you've dealt with doubt you've dealt with anxiety mental health issues things like that and you


with anxiety mental health issues things like that and you told me that spirituality exercise things like that it helped you come out of it yeah so could you just like run us through what had happened sure sure so I think throughout my life as a you know school kid I was always into science so for me it was all so I've never been into God or religion per se it was always about science and there was a time I think in my career where I was facing gout like you mentioned and my health was a total downward spiral I had taken a lot of steps which is cut out alcohol cut out smoking and all of that but somehow gout persisted so I was like very frustrated saying that you know I'm doing it all I'm kind of managing my diet health everything how is it that this continues to come back and for those who don't know gout is uric acid levels going up and they go so high that they kind of crystallize in your body joints


they kind of crystallize in your body joints in joints and they become super painful so you can't even like you know walk etc except on painkillers don't work it's really really bad so anyway so that is to keep coming back and someone just said hey you've been through this you've tried it all maybe why don't you try Reiki I was like I think I've reached this kind of bottom end you know in life that why not so I think I got into it and so you know I really believe that rather than just react to the outside shape or what that spirituality is all about I think for me I just connected to the essence of it and that worked for me which was what is the essence of it so what I think I took out immediately was that a lot of my issues were not just medical but they were things that are I'd suppressed throughout my life my emotions absolutely so those things were still there I had never technically dealt with them thinking that time


had never technically dealt with them thinking that time is the greatest healer so I think that that journey essentially got me to realize and accept that hey hang on you know we don't necessarily have a process of dealing with it and that that entire journey that I went through allowed me to understand how I could deal with it and that gave me a lot of empowerment and hope and initially I I just for me it's like this when I believe in exploring something I go full-on yeah then it's it's like full surrender there is no doubt or suspicion or whatever so like let me just take it 100% and then see where it goes so that's what happened and the funny part of this is that maybe for almost a year I just went so spiritual that it again again it scared my wife and everyone around me is a what the hell's happened to this guy you know using language like love and all that which was maybe alien right but as that


all that which was maybe alien right but as that happened I suddenly started seeing similarities with science again and that's where I started realizing or hang on this wasn't like a totally different exploration or a journey which is totally kind of you know unconnected with whatever I've been doing but it actually kind of became like a full circle for me as I go hang on oh okay so this is this and that is that and these are not this versus yeah yeah and actually connected they connected beautifully on their own like this is the whole Steve Jobs thing yeah the dots will connect this and that's what actually happened so do you kind of feel that Western thought has kind of taken over all of the world where unless there is a Western scientific proof about something people just don't buy it anymore like they've not taken into consideration the possibility that wait the Eastern world might have discovered things before maybe it's lost over time now the Western world is discovering things like pranayama and meditation and


is discovering things like pranayama and meditation and attaching scientific research to that now like via VT VT now it works do you see that happening a lot more because from my learnings of spirituality and my learnings of the parallels between biology and spirituality I feel that there's a lot for the scientific world to discover absolutely so I think to me ultimately it's a journey of how many in alignment right and like I said I don't think this is about science or spirituality it's ultimately how they support each other yeah and and if science allows you to experience spirituality better so be it and vice versa yeah you know so I think today in fact it's just it's a funny thing right the Western world is now discovering the eastern and the eastern world is saying maybe we didn't focus too much on the science of it but hey you know there is another way of doing it so I think to me there's a convergence happening for example let's just over Reiki because that's something both


example let's just over Reiki because that's something both you and me have done there's no scientific proof behind Reiki oh wait hold on let's give you guys all kind of context on what Reiki is so basically Reiki is touch healing so say you're injured in a particular part someone will conduct a Reiki session over that particular part of your body and related parts that are also injured and kind of heal you through the touch now there's not scientific proof behind this but you've experienced Reiki I have experienced a key what you feel is actually real and this is something only a Reiki practitioner will be able to vouch for now the science of it according to me and there's no proof behind this but is that when you're when I'm touching your knee say like you know your knees injured I'm sending out some kind of electromagnetic waves from my own body into your knees and that's kind of helping with the healing and the reason I've kind of drawn this conclusion


and the reason I've kind of drawn this conclusion is because when I had a tennis elbow when I went to my physio they gave me like these I think they put a machine I don't know what it's called but they basically send electric waves on your injured part and that had actually helped my tennis elbow that I made it heal but not come it hadn't healed completely and that's why I'd go on for a key where someone recommend well you know why do you try this alternative healing method and the key was the thing that actually kind of fixed my tennis elbow back then - when I started buying it I was like okay wait there's some science to this even if there's no scientific proof because I physically felt the healing inside me similarly in Reiki then I mean you're administering Reiki to injured body parts and all that but you're also administering wiki to what we call the chakras which are like key points on your cerebrospinal axis like on the


points on your cerebrospinal axis like on the straight line that bisects your body in half there are some key organs key glands and Reiki is even administered to key points on that axis so that's basically the introduction to Reiki I want to ask how we did what was your whole experience of something like Reiki and what did it add to your life what value did add because you're a very successful businessman entrepreneur one most well read sign during human beings I've ever come across in my life but you haven't dealt with something say non-scientific like Reiki sure so actually I must go one step back when I vented my health transformation journey I actually got on to the journey of discovering osho osho actually happened before a key so and I think he helped me bridge the two worlds the logical and let's say the total mystical and the spiritual bit so that was like a let's say step one and when I got into Reiki it kind of just synced very well


into Reiki it kind of just synced very well in that so for me Reiki was number one this whole acceptance that there is energy and do you allow energy or do you kind of hold on to it block it so the Reiki journey was really about I can let energy flow through me and it can do good not just for me for those as well so I think that was a great kind of you know realization can you explain the same paragraph to a skeptic who's like listening the song is like what is this energy that always it's speaking so okay forget about the spirituality part of it you know it's like this you go into a room and people say I feel a good vibe right so sometimes the Y can be hostile sometimes the vibe can be very friendly and welcoming and warm etc what is it what is all that right so essentially we are antennae listen if you just look at ourselves our antenna so you're sensing something now we may not be able to kind of pinpoint


now we may not be able to kind of pinpoint this is you know this is a your and this you know gets in Audio waves etcetera etcetera but what is that it just because we don't have a definition for it or a you know a paradigm to define it or assigned yeah exactly we dismiss it yes we dismiss it as soft stuff yeah or you know that's not that's not really that's not really but you know and it's not just about being in the same room for example you think of someone and if someone just called you now what's going on you know is it a coincidence as we call you know we like to call it and all that but there's something at play here and I don't know when we supposed to jump into quantum physics but I was about to jump but you know there is there is this principle called entanglement yeah what does that basically mean it means event to electrons they interact with each other where electrons are like the smaller parts of an atom


electrons are like the smaller parts of an atom like atom consists of like three parts protons neutrons and electrons so electrons are like the tiniest kind of trick that means the house which we call an atom so the electron the electrons are the ones which are like you know rotating around this atom which is really tiny yeah and electrons when they let's say two electrons when they interact with each other they suddenly connect and even if they are separated and one electron is in Alaska and the other one is in you know Himalayas or whatever like if you're able to separate them yeah so if like they've met they've interacted and then they get separated for whatever reason what happens to electron a happens simultaneously two electron be like so and that's called entanglement and it's a quantum physics thing so this has been proven by scientific experiments etc so when you think of that same thing of hey I thought of someone and that person connect some things something is getting communicated right


that person connect some things something is getting communicated right so in the science world they could call it a zero-point field something exists and we are essentially we may not see it you may be invisible and they could be electrons it could be particles they could be waves or whatever but something allows us to detect feel something instantaneously and that's that's that's what needed me about the quantum physics world so we're gonna get back into quantum physics in detail I just want to bring up this one point that I learned from Sadhguru actually he has this theory that your entire body when you break it down it's just a lot of memory put together as in the nose on your face is actually a great-great great-great-grandfather's knows which has been passed on to you okay so that's one aspect of memory similarly if say you know you've gone through some pain in life that mental memory gets stored in your head so there's different levels of maybe this physical memory mental memory and then spiritual memory emotional memory


memory mental memory and then spiritual memory emotional memory all that also when if I just like rub your knee can I don't know if this is correct but some of the electrons on my skin may be sticking to like your knee there for now they're a part of your body so we have exchanged information now that person who you were calling who called you back like any thought of the person and they call you back could have been up someone who's close to you who you had physical intimacy with who you had mental intimacy with emotional intimacy with so would you say that there's some parallels absolutely like memories get excited that's why they also say that it's important for a parent to touch a child while growing up that you're passing on a lot of your own memory so this is a spiritual side of it but you also one is bringing in the physics often the quantum physics absolutely so in fact you know this whole thing we say that VR a system of energy yeah so while


say that VR a system of energy yeah so while I was deep diving you know when Mac got into that entire space there's another body of knowledge etc which really looks at it not just as energy systems but literally code information code so there's a code field around you and when we're not well or we're not feeling good things have gotten wrong in that code just like let's say in a computer system you have you know a program is a bug or something like that so essentially it's about getting that code back in play which is healing you know so it's really about understanding it from that perspective so could Reiki be some form of like a electronic impulse that heals that code okay now coming back to quantum physics you were Tony one very beautiful story about 2001 when the World Trade Center attacks had happened could you just like share it with the viewers because this kind of blew me away and I'm sure it blow them away as well so I got into this rabbit hole of quantum


well so I got into this rabbit hole of quantum physics from this documentary called what the bleep do we know okay so what the bleep do we know is really about hey we look at the world from one perspective and see the quantum physics world is a very intriguing fascinating world which frustrated the likes of Albert Einstein because whatever he could measure proved in the normal atomic world he said everything goes topsy-turvy in the subatomic world like when you go deeper into an atom when you magnify it so it's like everything before you get into the atom part it's structured everything is sane orderly the moment you go into the subatomic world it's all chaos okay hold on can you just like give the viewers and the listeners an intro on what does quantum physics mean like what is the meaning of quantum physics is it physics that deals with this smaller world yes it is the it is the study of the subatomic world yeah so compound say for example this you can see is an e


say for example this you can see is an e yeah so this is from the normal world yeah but actually when you go into the atomic part of it which is really difficult to see right you may not even see anything close to an e it's just energy interacting with each other that's what an atom really is it's energy that's it so the one beautiful part of quantum physics is that electrons can exist in two states okay one as a particle and that particle is what let's say allows us me to exist and to be seen yeah or it can also exist in the form of a wave yeah okay what does that mean the dual nature possibility yeah and it says that only when there's a tension on this wave does it transform into a particle so again when you look at from a spiritual perspective you have this thing that attention intention on something creates reality manifested its about that so otherwise it's all possibility but only when this consciousness which kind of gets diverted towards that does it become like


gets diverted towards that does it become like you said manifested reality so so that that's that's the quantum physics world so I started because of that documentary and if anyone can watch that that's a beautiful primer what's it called of him what the bleep do we know yeah the full asterisks etcetera of the bleep yeah and so it actually kind of it's not just about science or whatever it's really about life and it's trying to kind of decode life from this extremely subatomic perspective okay so that got me into this journey because there were various people who had gotten interviewed in that documentary and I started kind of studying each one of them and one of those people Lynne McTaggart I think she was called she's written a couple of books and one of the books so one book is called the field which really explains how that entanglement or how we're able to sense people you know subconsciously etc happens and the second book was the intention experiment and the intention


second book was the intention experiment and the intention experiment is that there are Institute's very scientific institutes like Princeton for example which has been measuring quantum physics effects for the last wretched 30-plus years all over the world all over the world and they have in they have installed these devices which essentially measure whether the energy is a particle or a wave okay so when nothing is going on there is no stimuli it's a wave when there's a tension when people let's say are gravitating towards something that transforms into a particle and those devices detect that okay so let me let me let me eyes down for the layman basically there are these tiny particles which have a dual nature they can be both say light waves or they can be a particle so normally they're light but when you focus on them they become a real particle when you actually look at them say for example would a star be a version of this like you know you're it's actually light it's the light from somebody when you're looking at it


the light from somebody when you're looking at it looks like a solid object is it like a version Oh actually everything including a star or planet is built up of these atoms so the the DNA of life are these atoms which behaved this way so everything around you has a dual nature I look at you right now and there's a physical of is here but then actually you are like yeah Wow yeah so it's like this you know if you look at from a philosophical point of view without context content has no value similarly you know subatomic perspective without a tension or energy or involvement and participation there is no particle right and then you would say that hang on if I'm not thinking of a chair how can the rest of the world see it as a chair is because there's also collective energy so you know you've heard of psychology like this whole thing of the collective consciousness don't call Youm and all of that so there is also an effect of not just individual attention but a group actually creating


of not just individual attention but a group actually creating attention and that reality manifesting so that the 9/11 example that you brought up from that book the intention experiment that I was just referring to earlier talked about five hours before that event happened the devices that I mentioned across the world picked up a massive surge of change in energy five hours before the event which meant that something was alerting our subconscious systems before the event just think about it you know there are times when you feel oh my god something's gonna happen and it actually happens what is that is it just about oh my god this guy is woohoo or he's blessed with some major mystical powers or maybe he's just tuned in yeah you know so it's a question of how tuned in are you to the energy field or not and this is what we call intuition just successively absolutely so I think from a coach perspective I think it's also important to realize that everyone has it it's just a question


realize that everyone has it it's just a question of tuning in you know you might think that oh he can do it I can't he has fantastic intuition I don't which honestly is because it's it's really about helping so I was tuned out it so that the Reiki journey actually helped me tune in and that's what I you know so realized so you know I usually ask people what kind of role their spirituality has played in their careers and obviously I'm gonna ask you the same but you're also a career coach like you actually tell people how to make their career more efficient how they can make more money how they can become bigger in their careers so what is your whole take on the process of spirituality of becoming spiritual in your career journey what kind of tools can it give you what are like you know the weapons that it can put in your hand so the first one is awareness so you know we are on this hamster wheel this treadmill of life that pace


this hamster wheel this treadmill of life that pace keeps you know just going on and on and on and all and let me get scared to get off it saying that oh my god if I get off it I will lose out versus the journey or spirituality actually starts putting in that pause between stimulus and response awareness and I think awareness is a tool which is not taught yes being aware of who you to start with self and self awareness is the toughest actually because it's it's kind of okay and normal to see someone else and you know make a comment on it but to really see yourself needs you to pull back because you also have a assumption about yourself yeah and that assumption could come from what others say about you like a version of yourself in your head absolutely think you're one person but you may not be that absolutely or there could be different dimensions which is not realized there could be a lot of programming that has led you to believe who you are etc etc


has led you to believe who you are etc etc but have you really pulled back and say okay hang on hang on what is it really about me who who am i you know and what makes me tick click you know when we don't worry motivated about absolutely so once I know that and when you ask this question of what how does that help in the career progression is really about this is what works for me this is what happens to me when I get challenged and this is what if I do this can help me overcome it so I think that to me is a very important part of it because what is spirituality to me it's like it's exercising you know you go to a gym you're essentially taking you're stressing a system to get stronger and stronger you're kind of putting inputs of stress so that your body and your system responds better so to me spirituality has to play that role it's your life Jim yeah which kind of helps you you know okay hang on


which kind of helps you you know okay hang on now how do I get even more resilient more resilient more resilient more intuitive more listening as opposed to just reacting yeah talking giving out now I read a lot about spirituality I only read two things which is business and spirituality and those are the only two kind of escapism for me in life and with spirituality I think the one common theme of read across all the books by like the top authors okay so I'm not gonna give an and Paramount's Krishnan & Osho people like that who I really look up to the common theme is that it is like exercise spirituality the spiritual game and it's a parallel game to your career to your life and the way to progress is regular meditation they talk about it because again as I speak about this a lot on the channel as well like it biologically helps your body cleans up your lungs helps your brain develop it in fact like it's it's kind of like how when


fact like it's it's kind of like how when you do bicep curls and your bicep is like becoming bigger your brain becomes much more intense and now I'm meditating for like four five years and I've seen the change in myself my family seen the change in me my loved ones have seen the change my co-workers know things are much more calm things are much more efficient things of firing much faster and I know it's a result of my meditation so what is your whole take on this whole meditation wave that's taking over the world because people are actually the way I look at it people are using meditation as one of those tools you know which also a calming friend he actually talks about how every single billion in the world has like this meditation habit now so there must be some science to it so see something that's happening there but from a quantum perspective what do you think is happening and what is your general take on like meditation so what you just said the


take on like meditation so what you just said the CEOs and all of that they're all walking talking meditation now which is the damn good thing so see people need this you know something to follow and when you have the right role models doing it you get a lot of behavior which follows and what happens is it becomes a virtuous cycle yeah so when you have people doing this it isn't it much better than something which is like questionable and following that so you talked about the before we get into the quantum physics bit which I have not even attempted to explain but I think meditation today I think in the last 15 odd years has had a lot of neuroscience validation of how it effects brain to body etc etc so I think that thanks to I think a lot of work that the dalai lama's institute and you know how all the neuroscientists who have kind of partnered with them to see the literal the physical impact and the changes in the brain that happens for people who regularly


in the brain that happens for people who regularly meditate so I think that has given a lot of confidence to the normally let's say skeptic only Western way of thinking to saying that hang on this is now good enough to integrate in our way of life right so for example Silicon Valley many years back they got onto the meditation bandwagon I'm sure you've heard of Google who created this whole search inside yourself program and all that many years ago right they look at it as a Productivity hack my point is that people might say oh but doesn't it take away from its core I would say that if it encourages you to do something better than what you did before so be it so I think to me no matter what which platform you're coming from if you're affecting effecting positive change fantastic so you know it doesn't matter why and what and you know so I think to me if good things get kind of you know practiced and followed I think that's important I think today it's


followed I think that's important I think today it's reaching this mass following just fantastic as for some concerned person coming back to the career coach side of things I mean if that okay also the quantum physics of meditation I think again it probably gets back into that whole thing of attention right to yourself to yourself to your surroundings and therefore I am saying helping reality manifest much better because if you remember waves possibility and particle being that physicality so I think meditation actually allows you to manifest yeah manifest I am sure you've heard of these experiments and in fact this was also covered in the what the bleep and things like that where they've had meditators literally change the ph level of water damn right so they have measured this scientifically this is not a boo-boo kind of a experiment and and I don't know if you're aware but even one level of change in pH is massive if you goes out in the body you'll die right so they've actually like for meditators together


right so they've actually like for meditators together and focusing on you know whatever you know water container and they actually changed the pH level so that's the power so obviously you're tapping into something very fundamental which is where this quantum physics becomes anything right which is also a head of modern science it's way out of modern science as of now sure like I mean people like if you say this to like the average wasn't it yeah what are you saying my camera but there is quantum physics behind it man so sure so I think you know this there's a quote from there's a quantum physicist called Fred Alan wolf he's one of the people featured in that documentary I was mentioning what the bleep do we know so he says like Neil the beauty of life is not in the know but in the mystery the kn-kn-know w and I think that's a beautiful is this quote in all my workshops that I do you know when you are in know your mind is closed you're not


you are in know your mind is closed you're not receiving antennas Mary goes up coach mother I know Dana is not tuning in but when I'm in the mystery you're in the curiosity stage and that to me is very important because the flow of energy changes yeah and I think to me meditation allows you to step back and allow that flow and that curiosity and you know all those processes and when it's a practice like you were mentioning anything that's a practice is only going to kind of you know do good for you if it's a one-off saying oh well now I'm going to go make it isn't become a superstar tomorrow that's not the point exercising the same thing it's a ritual of exercise it's more important then why isn't absolutely you know my final question to you for this podcast is that if you can tune back into your career coach mode but also kind of tie in that spirituality element what would you tell an eighteen year old today that he should know


tell an eighteen year old today that he should know in order to expand his mind expand his career to the best of his capabilities from a spiritual perspective as well what spiritual advice would you give an eighteen year old for his career or her career so most people have you know this one role model and I think there's a lot of passion there and all of that and people following it knowable I think if I were to tell anyone starting off saying that hang on always triangulate your source of insight which means that maybe your role model is saying this but is there another perspective behind it and I think to me most people just get into it with blinders follow follow follow follow follow then learn in probably the most messy way and some some learn and they grow but a lot don't and then they kind of you know blame they're either the role models or more the verses blame themselves so I think to me this whole thing of cultivating this habit of pulling back and saying hang


cultivating this habit of pulling back and saying hang on is there another perspective to it maybe there's opposing perspective why is it opposing does that mean that this is wrong or maybe it actually adds to that I think to me that's a very important part of anyone entering the game of life you know so that's what I would kind of honestly you know get so I hope it kind of tick the boxes of spirituality and quantum physics hopefully did you enjoy the podcast nice good fun man yeah so Abbi teachers go to be on a lot of ifs or going forward I'm gonna link all these handles down below makes you follow him anything else you want linked like specifically like I'm honestly active purely on Instagram so that's what I do so hold cool so any you guys if you enjoyed it give it a thumbs up make sure you share it with your friends share with other spiritual people and until next time guys from Abhijeet okay man thank you for being thank you and myself


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we've got an education special off the ranvir show one of india's top educationalists authors and one of my biggest mentors in life dr radhakrishnan thank you for being on the runway show again it's an honor to be part of the ranvi show again and discussing something which is so important to us teachers educationalist and for you students parents and the future of our country yes so i think this is a very big game-changing moment in the world of indian education it's something that everyone should follow please sit down with a notebook i do believe that somewhere the leadership core of india whether there's a government whether that is the core of teaching leadership in the country education leadership they've tried to construct the best possible future in my life i don't think i've ever been so happy about an announcement from the world of education so kudos to the whole uh leadership core of the country but so that's what was the kind of core thought process behind so many changes we're going to go


process behind so many changes we're going to go over all the important ones in this podcast but what is the history of this moment like what has led up to this uh i'm going to tell everything about this in one line this is equal to demonetization in the education system wow crazy crazy so um so so what happened actually in demonetization everything of the past just became irrelevant we just got into a different future so when you ask me what are the history about it of course i'm going to tell you but it's more about the future of indian education system at the global level now coming to this question of what is the history it's been a long pending thing that indian education system it is very good no doubt about it the same education system created the the great leaders at the microsoft and the googles and you have iit's and ims let us not blame that this education system is bad but as they say from time to time we need to reform it and this is our


time we need to reform it and this is our moment in history for our generation crazy crazy so so so uh the intention with it at least when you read all the reforms is very much okay let's create leaders let's create entrepreneurs let's create the next generation that will actually make india that sony chidiya again which is a topic you and me have discussed over all our podcast this is one huge step in that direction so let's dive straight in uh i've selected ten top points that i feel are the most relevant for the listeners the first is this five plus three plus three plus four system so what does it mean okay i'll tell you if you look at the current education system okay that itself is going to go to a positive disruption you know many people say disruption is bad because you know it kills somebody and creates somebody else but when i say positive disruption it is much needed okay so if you look at the current education system we have some nursery kindergarten then we have


system we have some nursery kindergarten then we have primary and then we have something called as uh you know secondary higher secondary and then you go to college so generally this education system currently is known as ten plus two okay ten standard you have the exams and we have two board exams ten standard and twelve standard and it's a tension you know because for ten standard everybody's struggling then one year break you enjoy eleventh strength and you again go to twelve standard and you don't know what to do but globally if you look at it there is only one so-called final board exam for which you are ready for the world okay so let me tell you globally and mostly picking up from the west and american education system they have one which happens in the 11th standard okay and afterwards you can choose whether to get a graduation degree or no so what we are saying is in this particular education system we are going to have basic which is five okay the what is this five primary education first standard


okay the what is this five primary education first standard of standard and it's going to be three that means six seven eight as higher uh secondary or secondary i would say then after six seven eight nine ten eleven you will not be having ten standard exams congratulations and you're not getting twelve standard exam they're going to merge into eleven standards so that's going to be three so five is primary education then we have no secondary that is three so 6 7 8 9 10 11 and after that you are going to decide your future with the college that means 11 standard one and then you decide what to do in life and you can go for higher education like diploma uh advanced diploma and graduation so this is the basic understanding of these numbers hmm crazy uh so the obvious kind of question and every positive always has a flip side also is that those bicharae nine-year-olds ten-year-olds will have to go through a board exam like uh while that could be good that could be a good character wielding


could be good that could be a good character wielding moment in their lives i think it's in the hands of the parents i just hope parents of young kids like that don't start putting pressure saying but i also feel that generation of parents who puts too much pressure now that's over the new generation of parents will be a little more easy going that's just my intuition i don't know you tell me so as you rightly pointed out it is not uh going to be 11 years old child it is 11 standard okay so if you look at it it is going to be 11 standard so that when the child would be already 16 years old nasa but i'm talking i'm talk i'm talking about the like the five plus three plus three so after fifth at fifth standard there will be something no no no no no no so you only okay so but if you look at it today also you go from primary to secondary and then from secondary to higher secondary there is no board exam it's all internal okay okay


there is no board exam it's all internal okay okay okay okay okay so you don't worry about so many board exams so it's not a board exam not the fifth standard and then after no no nothing like that but what is very important is that right now this format has been given how it is going to be implemented it all depends on school to school and there are various boards they will all get merged there won't be an icsc cbsc sse nothing no that's exactly what is happening currently we have so many boards so many confusions and when you go from school to college maybe after 12th standard you don't know what is the marks there is a cbsc there is an ib and there is a state board so the whole idea is to have one standardized thing you know that is the what the government is working for but let me tell you it will take some time because nobody knows i am from this board i'm from that board the idea is to integrate it globally because the global


idea is to integrate it globally because the global thing is 11 and forward so it is going to take some time for everything to get merged but as you rightly pointed out runway that is the vision of this particular education policy so how long do you think it will take like from now till that moment how long did demonization take okay got it there are two things one is a decision and the second thing is the implementation and the third thing is social acceptance please understand this you know there is already a huge system running in this particular country crores of people are involved in this it's not going to be an overnight change and i would call it more a teething problems there'll be some resistance to it and especially you know people are already a part of this whole system they're already preparing for the 10 standard board or 12th standard so it's going to be a kind of a change management issue at the national level three people will be directly affected in this number one is the students


be directly affected in this number one is the students themselves number two are the teachers okay and number three are the ones who are going to be employers or those people who will be helping funding these guys who want to be entrepreneurs so i think teachers have to accept it and you know once the government rule comes most of the teachers don't have a choice students will have to go through because students generally don't understand education policy it's only after we come out we realize you know it was not an education system it was actually an examination system but i have one request to all the parents you know please accept this because parents are the one who are going to be guiding the children to accept this take it positively the outcome will be very good there will be some teething problems suggesting problem like any other system it's like changing from one house to other house but i would say that if you take it positively we will be able to manage the change better in a positive way crazy but uh


the change better in a positive way crazy but uh so like as in when will we actually start seeing this in play and because i didn't understand that concept of merging it with the whole world system so does that mean we're gonna merge it with the american system the european system mainly like you can't merge with like in australia nigeria everyone so what i didn't understand that okay so let me tell you today if you look at what you are doing right now youtube interview the world is your audience right initially every country used to decide its own education policy and we created our own education policy that's been working till now but if you look at it globally most of the indians have migrated and we have second generation indian born there so an american born indian i would say you know so they go through a different system and you must have usually heard okay so the basic education in america till 11th standard is taken care by the government itself so there is no financial stress second important


government itself so there is no financial stress second important part is that you know they have something called as choice based education system so you will see in our own system students don't just study by syllabus they can actually take maybe one music credit okay they can take one sanskrit grammar they can take one mathematics so i think the fifth standard everybody will be having the common thing but everybody needs to learn maths but what i'm saying has to go higher and higher globally everybody enjoys study and studying is a choice and let me tell you in the american management system i traveled to a lot of universities abroad you know becoming a graduate is a big thing in india after graduation also you don't get a job therefore there is a saying you know engineer so you know engineering yes so i know that i also also all all my team at monk entertainment everyone's engineers exactly that's why i give that example so you know if you go abroad an engineer is a very


if you go abroad an engineer is a very highly qualified skilled person and everybody is having basic skills 11 standards so what we are trying to do that merge so that tomorrow when you are going to the world level you said listen i have the basic qualification i am also a graduate by choice today graduation is more because of social pressure engineers and doctors because so gary may bed again so school education then 12 standard then some degree you should have and we are saying people are unemployable so all graduates need not be employable but let me tell you in the global center graduation means big that's if you look at the passport you know there is something called immigration not required for graduates and today every tom they can hurry in india is a minimum graduate you know it's not something great so we need to respect the graduates who specialize in something so that's what i'm saying globally graduates are very respected and they have convocation ceremony with the topi and the address and india we


with the topi and the address and india we sing okay so what so i am saying that this will take us to the global level of course in the higher education system there will be credit based system which i'll explain to you okay what is that going to change at the global level there is something called credit based system which is to be adopted very soon got it so it's basically in spirit we are kind of stepping up to global levels and also maintaining the indian spirit beautiful beautiful uh which brings me to my next point so vocational focus right from the sixth standard so are there gonna be vocational courses what kind of vocational courses is the government thinking of what's happening yeah so if you remember the policy of the government skill india okay what is skill india and there is another called as startup india also stand up india which is for entrepreneurship the thing is that usually people who are out of the system then they go and find out a skill okay of course we have


and find out a skill okay of course we have itis okay i'm not talking about iits its where you get technically educated now the thing is that one of the statistics say that we have a lot of disparity in our country the people who are in mba and going forward they become very you know part of the management team but what about a plumber what about an electrician what about a truck driver for that matter you know we do them looking very down so we don't respect this call you know and we say you know their labor class it's not good i remember one of my friends from australia told you know if tomorrow an indian who settled in australia okay tomorrow if my daughter has to get married to a truck driver there is no problem with me i said wow such an educated phd father because he says the truck driver also earns the same amount of money which maybe a ceo of a company can because there is a social respect dignity of labor i think this educated system


respect dignity of labor i think this educated system will start giving you the vocational guidance and training right from the school day so for example if you like to be a plumber what's wrong he's not doing a dirty job he's doing an excellent job so what is going to happen is that the vocational part will start getting introduced right from the school so you have workshops you know if you want to be a painter there's a different class for you if you want to be a thing so this training will be there and look at this way in india we are still dependent on people to come and do a repairing of plumbing work and electric work but if you look abroad all the basics are done by the same person they have a toolkit at home they have a carpentry kit at home so why not we train our children to do your to-do list for the small little thing so if you if there is a nut and bolt which is missing you don't require to call a


bolt which is missing you don't require to call a carpenter and pay 350 rupees because if he comes he has to pay the minimum visiting charges you can tell your 10 year old cello come like something like that and the tenure will actually check with a youtuber who is a carpenter and he'll be a role model that's crazy it's a beautiful world we're heading into uh what what other vocations do you think so will be introduced so is it all these you know occupation based vocations or is there other stuff as well so every generation would have new occupations like they never knew about a generation called as youtuber right and i have a great friend of mine called ranveer he's a youtuber i didn't know i never decided in my life that i would be a youtuber i want to make youtuber my role model remember this swami vivekananda said a good economy a good nation is the one who allows people to choose their vocation and their way of earning money so in


their vocation and their way of earning money so in the olden days we only knew cattle raring and agriculture now think about it 20 30 years ago the i.t generation came in there will be creative economy also so what is the creative economy you are a part of the creative economy youtube is creativity but many people thought it is entertainment it is not entertainment it's a profession you earn money out of it i earn money out of it everybody can so i think this is the beauty of every generation they can decide i'll tell you what instant there was a person who actually did mass media 20 years ago and he told his father that you know i'm going to do mass media so father did not understand by mass media saying that it's all about communication so he asked what is your job after this 20 years ago maybe i'll get into television channel or radio he got into a radio channel and he got a programmer's job so his father asked him what is the meaning of radio


his father asked him what is the meaning of radio programmer and how much are you getting so he said you know i'm going to get 40 000 rupees per month 40 000 rupees radio station i've never heard of it and actually father was shocked when he actually got a salary 20 years ago 40 000 rupees so for that father generation who worked in factories they never understood what a radio programming is maybe my generation is still wondering what a youtuber is so i think the next generation you have so many things so one of the very clear things is that it's going to have a choice in which you want to make your career your profession and your vocation so if you want to be a plumber why not but if you want to be a poet why not if you want to be somebody who's going to design water bottles why not so it's the beauty of this education system and the future that you can choose any existing vocation or you can create a vocation which you believe you are


can create a vocation which you believe you are the spear header or the starter of that for example i started a complete career on chanakya it never existed so you choose your career rather than getting frustrated with the education system 100 so i think the point to be highlighted here is that you are telling an 11 year old okay here they go this is what you need and then you'll be able to do this job and just that realization will actually open up their minds and even more things and eventually in life they'll have that confidence of okay when i was 11 i learned that myself or someone taught me so i'm sure i'll be able to do anything so it's more a confidence instilling thing than anything else and experimentation so i'll explain that so when you're telling even your guy you can choose this career you're not making him choose only that career it's like a buffet dinner you know so you taste everything so if you want to be a carpenter try it for a


want to be a carpenter try it for a few days if you want to be a musician try it for a few days till you don't taste you don't understand which is the choice you want to make it's like going to an ice cream parlor you know the ice cream parlor guy there will be 12 uh you know different flavors and he says you can taste everything you don't have to pay but if you like that one flavor which is unique and which appeals to you you can buy the whole scoop so education system is going to allow every child to choose what they want and if you don't want to follow it it is okay so for example after becoming an engineer everybody says you know till you make money so there is no feeling of guilt in experimenting with various different professions so you can take a mathematics as a subject you can just culinary arts as a subject you can take you know maybe uh youtuber as a subject maybe you can create a course out


as a subject maybe you can create a course out of it also so i think the child actually has a choice to experiment before deciding because if you don't have a choice then you are actually under stress to choose which you don't want to so that's a choice-based education system beautiful also i feel you know i've been reading a lot of ul noah harari he speaks about artificial intelligence how much it's advancing which also means that a lot of human beings are going to lose their jobs to artificial intelligence therefore what do the human beings do everyone will have to upskill skills is the new oil of the world the new gold of the world so you're telling a you're you're kind of increasing the uh respect of the concept of skills in a kid's head which is very beautiful in fact i go one step further to connect to chanakya also you are going to find your swadharma what you are good at what is your natural talent and a person who makes a profession out of his swadharma


person who makes a profession out of his swadharma his natural god gifted talent can never fail in his life like i'm a natural teacher i'm a natural author i'm a natural speaker and i connected to chanakya i'm the number one in my field everybody can be number one in the field there is no competition there is only collaboration that's the way forward yeah yeah uh you know again these kind of concepts i just hope people gravitate towards it but i do feel india's breeding a new generation of human minds but anyway let's move on to the next um key point which is 8th to 11th which is around 13 years old or 14 years old to 16 you get to choose your subjects so i'm guessing that that sixth standard to eighth period is for you to kind of taste different things and then finish your buffet dinner and then choose your a la carte menu or whatever in eighth to eleventh that's the thinking absolutely correct and now the teachers have to give the buffet


correct and now the teachers have to give the buffet okay remember that also so every institution will have to decide because you know for example you know when i was part of this little bit of an education policy a little bit i was involved and somebody said in near bangalore airport there are villages okay and can you believe there are no much profession there is no other choice so the one of the piece of persons who actually drafted this education policy was telling us when i go to the bangalore airport it's very far off from the main city all of you must have seen the zoo travel to bangalore but if we can create a vocation okay that how can you be a person who can do support systems for the bangalore airport and can the college these you know there'll be foreigners coming speak in arabic language take them to a hotel so you can have a specialized course in bangalore airport near those education institutions so it is not a buffet dinner only which is standardized that buffet dinner


dinner only which is standardized that buffet dinner can be a local choice so my mother would like to give me 10 dishes your mother can give you 10 different dishes so it's a very beautiful buffet it will be unique with a different spread everywhere that's where we are heading for it so but practically in schools what's going to happen like as in is the government gonna go and tell schools that okay now you have to start teaching people cooking and carpentry and everything so will the government provide the tools like what's gonna happen i'll tell you how the education syllabus is formed okay now let me tell you the process every technical process whenever you go to a particular school there is a board okay and there is something called as board of studies so who is the board of state it's a committee okay nobody decides the subject so like for example if there's a government state government there's a syllabus and you must have seen lot of people saying that the history has to be


lot of people saying that the history has to be rewritten okay then you have to indianize you to bring in sanskrit you have to bring leadership you have to bring china into it so how does the process happen so the people come together the intellectuals the teachers the researchers and they say you know a lot of things have to change in the education syllabus for example lot of things get outdated will you ever teach what you are taught teaching about computers 20 years ago no because a dot matrix printers is no more relevant you know we will talk about the future so what is going to happen the board of studies they actually sit down and discuss what are the kind of a syllabus and they are intelligent people they will actually make a syllabus from two types one is what is called the spiritual education the moral education ethics the character building and the second is a technical part of it which will become a profession so coming back who is going to decide what to teach