it's a very weird comparison but as a football fan when you watch the german team play you actually learn a lot about how they look at their own culture like it's it's highly efficient like every time i've ever seen germany play a football match there's a very detailed system that the entire team is following which you don't see in other teams you know the other teams may or may not have it but germans are always deeply organized and if you actually travel in germany that's what you notice as well it's probably the most organized country in the world it's super super organized and uh it gives you a lot of pressure because if you if you're not like that if you're different you feel like oh something is wrong with me because i have to belong in this template of life you know since you're a kid maybe since i'm like 15 16 okay when you start realizing how the adult world works exactly you know when you're like 12 30 and you're teenager you don't really think about these


and you're teenager you don't really think about these things you know but like like for me it was like when i was 15 16 and you know because of the internet you can look into other places how other countries work and i was like you know what i like this much more than this but a lot of people unfortunately don't have the guts or the passport or financial background or the family support to do this you know so with the working holiday visa i found a good opportunity to be like i can be independent somewhere else and maybe build something yeah and uh yeah so growing up in germany good efficiency obviously a very stable economy so i mean even if you don't have a job i don't know if you know but if you don't have a job in germany you get like 400 a month wow for doing nothing they pay your apartment so even if you have no job you live a luxury life compared to other countries you know do germans choose to even do that like knowing how


germans choose to even do that like knowing how germans are even they have this whole hustle mentality i don't think they know though because like when you live in this bubble how can you look at your own bubble if you're not outside the bubble so when i when i was in australia and i heard other countries talk about my country i was like oh wow yeah that's true i didn't even realize it then you know dude you're the most like relaxed german i've ever met like i mean i'm sorry i'm just being like super straight forward with you like yeah usually they're like yeah yeah it's strict and like super serious you know i'm like the opposite you know i'm like the rule breaker you're like you're a german [Music] yeah like there's a lot of okay okay yeah but uh no seriously man like i i don't know you kind of seem like a little american almost like you know and how you are yeah american guys have like this uh kind of relaxed conversational


have like this uh kind of relaxed conversational vibe about them yeah like i i'm very open-minded to things and i like to learn like for me it's not like there's one path of life there's like many different ways of living that's why i love traveling so i can see how different people do you know do you think every country you visit like kind of paints a layer on your personality yeah for sure for sure and i'm like i'm absorbing the best part of different cultures and countries and i like take it with me and i have to accept that even growing up in germany there's a lot of things they're not good so i'm just like you know what's not good bro like when i lived in australia i realized that you have to have a good balance between work and life like free time and they're perfect for me you know like they have like they're surfing they do all these activities all their sports while germans are just like work work work work work and then on


just like work work work work work and then on the weekend beer beer there's no balance it's just extreme what's the country you think about the most of like all the countries you've seen bro there's like two places for me one's japan because of just how nice the people are like just people are too nice too nice uh the second is honestly america i think about a lot and there was parts of america i saw which was really up and the path of america which i saw which were like really weirdly spiritual and like nicely because the landscapes are so big dude i went to this sequoia forest sequoias are like really tall trees so we went to a sequoia forest bro and when you entered like in the morning the sunrise is just happening and because it's like a mountainous region sunrise happens a little late because the sun takes time to come up dude so you see these really tall trees like trees like with your as big as like skyscrapers


trees like with your as big as like skyscrapers just staring down at you and there's like a lot of trees there's trees as far as your eye can see and you can see like really far and then the sunlight hits them and it kind of looks like the trees are like staring down at you and saying hey welcome welcome to this forest and you feel that vibe and we had gone through a shooter video and i'm just like staring up at it like where the [ __ ] am i because i've never seen trees so big i've never seen this vibe okay and then while i'm tripping out my friend goes you do look a bear and there's actually a [ __ ] bear like oh my god right there like like it's maybe like 10 meters 15 meters away from you and you're kind of like frozen because you're looking at like a big [ __ ] bed it's not a grizzly but it's one of those brown bears but it's still huge oh my god and it's


but it's still huge oh my god and it's just sitting there scratching his back scratching his balls and [ __ ] and you're just like what the [ __ ] is it is it gonna is it gonna come at me but it doesn't it just stays like yogi bed stays in its zone then there's this other american dude who goes hey bear hey bear okay and it's this quiet forest american dude representing american culture the bear and the bear kind of gets mind and like runs away in instead of like coming at the person there strange has experiences in america but what's that for you dude um i mean i i was living three years in australia i had such a good time but i really love the us as well it's like you said it's it's the contrast is crazy you know while a lot of people are like very much uneducated even being educated yeah you know yeah there's still a lot of opportunity in like growth and uh you know they're like being on top of


and uh you know they're like being on top of like as like a lot of things but you have to you have to like like i was living in the u.s for like two three months in california and florida you have to be with the right people because as much as it can help you grow it can also like get you [ __ ] up in some way let's talk about this bro like i said in in terms of social media it's like there's a lot of fake the industry i would feel is is very fake to a certain point where it's like oh let's be friends because you know this guy has like 2 million followers you know i got to be nice to him to get something out of him you know and i would never think like that i don't care i would never ask anyone to tag me in their story but over there it's just like okay there's like one good looking dude 10k followers and this old dude like [ __ ] 4 million followers like all the girls would


4 million followers like all the girls would go to him without a doubt it's a lot of cloud chasing who gets the better thumbnails clickbait scripting faking you know it's just to stay relevant people do a lot a lot of bad things which i don't know i never wanted to and you ha you have to fit in if you're not fitting in this it's going to be very hard nowadays to grow i agree with the career opportunity things that if you're willing to work hard in that country you can become anything you want to become anything yeah uh because there are a lot of helpful americans also of course of course you know there's a lot of people out there who are very kind of focused on their own growth but they know that they will grow by helping other people grow so people very willingly help you with with like everything they have great team players and all but that's in pockets like i remember so we i did like a gummy you know like we won this usa trip


a gummy you know like we won this usa trip and we did like a cannabis infused gummy ooh okay so dude my friends like made me do it and i did it very well and it's strong so i got super blazed uh and they stopped at that in and out burger you know which is at a petrol pump usually it's a gas station and we got out there that's what started hitting me okay and i'm like looking around a little like hazy dude and i saw like these two three uh homeless people okay um and you really kind of you see the trauma that those guys are going through they're very likely on drugs you know have you seen breaking bad yeah yeah of course you know you know that one episode with those that drug addict couple and they ignore the kid and jesse goes to that couple's house and he's like instead he's hiding from them and they're fighting with each other they're bickering and finally they both the drug addict couple gets high


finally they both the drug addict couple gets high together like really high uh they start fighting aggressively and the woman eventually kills the man while the kid is like roaming around there's this one very peculiar breaking bad episode and this mind [ __ ] jesse in who in the show is like actually a drug dealer yeah yeah um dude you kind of sense those vibes as well there's a lot of drug addiction out there like bad levels of drug addiction yeah and it's just like you know i've seen it it's just if you want to fit into a certain industry obviously there's a lot of good people out there and like i love the vibe that everyone is so ambitious and has goals and you can make it really far by working hard and connecting with the right people but you have to find the right people because it is much easier to go through like drama controversy you know and you grow with that much more expansion exponential than being like a good youtuber you know so people


being like a good youtuber you know so people seek the fast cut you know so they're gonna be like okay how can i be a hollywood actor tomorrow that's the way they think so they all go to hollywood with a 2 000 savings and they're like okay i've got to go out with different people so then they go out take drugs they don't make it so the savings are done so most of them end up on the streets or end up with being like depressed because they have done things and it has lead them to nowhere you know so that is also that dark side of this kind of like living in a place where everything is like so you know haven't have you ever rich yeah have you come close to the dark side i think not you yourself have you seen it up close i've seen it yeah so what's it like like i've seen people literally sacrificing their friends sacrificing um their family for they just they just wanted the success the fame the money you


they just wanted the success the fame the money you know instead of like oh i like making youtube videos i just want to grow naturally they're just like oh i have to be famous tomorrow you're talking about america specifically i'm talking about people who were going to america for that reason can also be foreigners you know they're like okay like where can i get the richest the fastest so then they would you know like let's go to la everyone's in la i know and they don't make it because not everyone makes it you know so they all drift off badly have you been to l.a yeah i've been there and you've lived them assuming i've lived there i lived with my friend for like three four weeks hmm that's that's long enough dude that's long enough to know the culture of a place you know the culture and then you go out and you see the the patterns of you know i don't know it's just like to find genuine people who just want you like


like to find genuine people who just want you like want to like you as a person rather than getting something out of you it's it's harder you know there's always an agenda there's always something like why are you with me why are you my friend is it the money the followers any other gain you know and i find it sad no i feel like did you meet any established famous people though yeah yeah you did i have a few friends they're like uh big in the modeling or like actors as well and they would be like telling me the same they're like the circle is very small and you have to be really careful who you can let in your circle because it's dangerous you know like why would they be with you um everyone wants to take something everyone wants to take something from you and they like they really want to pull you down so they can get up yeah you know joe rogan's left los angeles for the same reason and there's this whole exodus happening from l.a like


there's this whole exodus happening from l.a like i believe even the media industry in america is gradually shifting away from l.a for the same reason and it's become like this i mean i'm i'm not going to say anything because i've spent only like three four days of my entire life in l.a but what they say is that it's kind of becoming this toxic vibe that you spoke about yeah yeah i mean look to compare this it's like let's say you want to be a bodybuilder okay you don't want to train much because you just want to be like famous tomorrow instagram famous model so you just take steroids right but to be a bodybuilder on like the big scale you can't be natural it's not possible so if you're just going to be like that little innocent boy like i'm going to work out every day to become the best natural like people are going to laugh at you so at one point you have to inject you know but then even taking a few like


inject you know but then even taking a few like unless you have the best genetics it will only get you somewhere you know but if you want to be at the top you have to take more more more more you know and people get greedy once people have a lot they want more so they're willing to sacrifice more even the health you know bro when you're talking about all these things from all over the world uh it kind of actually makes me think of goa in some ways how do you look at goa because a lot of indians now look at goan three ways they either look at it as a party location they look at it as a place to kind of escape in a paradise like southgoa or they look at it as a new hub of foreigners like yourself and then that's that's honestly a fascination like that why are so many foreigners kind of coagulating uh and staying in goa and technically at this stage of your life probably it's home for you so what's


your life probably it's home for you so what's that like dude yeah i've been uh living in goa since may so how many months of that five probably five months and i've been on and off but i chose go as my base but before i was living in bali and bali is like super like a co-working hub for digital nomads and creators and people who have their businesses and just want to live in nature so i was like you know i lived in mumbai for two months it was good but i ended up going out too much and i was not really focusing on work so i wanted some place which like nice give me a nice balance like i can go to the beach i can i have my jungle like you know it's like it's a good balance so i feel like if people like if more people like freelancers from india like india is a huge freelance culture right yeah if more people will come to goa and build this hub i think it would be really amazing


build this hub i think it would be really amazing uh let's talk about bali a little bit dude yeah it's one of those places i've thought about a lot as you know maybe in my late 30s or something i might move there for the same reason that you can totally grow your career from bali that's what people especially in cities don't understand about moving out they think that they lose out on a lot but the truth is post covert you won't like you know you'll still get those same opportunities if your work is of a certain standard exactly i mean uh i i think the bali is like the jungle la it's like all the big influences creators photographers they all move to bali because their work doesn't really depend on living in la for example you know so if your work doesn't require to live in mumbai obviously if in the movie industry it's going to be hard always like even though it's a 40 minute flight you know but then always back and forth this kind of


know but then always back and forth this kind of it doesn't make sense but now with covert everything is online so moving to buy and moving to goa bali is easy you can just you know work online what's life like in bali specifically bro it's perfect i really really enjoyed it um great food everything is still super cheap it's cheaper than goa obviously much cheaper than mumbai mumbai is like but um reason why i left i feel like it's it's a little bubble where you know if you're super established you have no point you can live anywhere anyway you know but it's a little it's a little bubble in terms of like i'm a digital nomad i'm trying here to start something and then they realize that it's not really that good to start something there it's more like for established people do to connect got it so then they leave after a few months so you can't start from scratch in bali but if you've done something if you have something to show and if you have


if you have something to show and if you have steady work it's a good place to move if you already have an income or you have a job online i think it's a great place to to live and connect with other foreigners or like just enjoy the beauty like body has so much to offer you know but to start something you know it's very hard like what are you gonna do like start photography there it's indonesia it's not a good market you can't earn money with a tourist visa it's it's more like a trap of like oh yeah you can have all this what these people have but these people built it before they didn't build it in bali so it's just like you know people who lived there a long time they would be all leaving after year and two so you don't really have a constant friend group living there for longer so that happened to me too you know i was like with like 12 people and then after three four months like one by one they're all gone and


four months like one by one they're all gone and like why do people leave because they don't realize it's like it's not for them you know it's like they thought it can be for them like that digital nomad life you know but then they realize they need either their parents or they need their comfort zone and they didn't see the growth i think career growth yeah okay like growth reduced a little bit in bali yeah because there's like so many photographers right so what everyone shoots the same palm tree you know they didn't see the growth unless you have a completely different company online you know so most of the people like told me like all this like they feel like they're on the same level while in goa you know since it's the same country you can just enjoy the perks of goa the nature and you can build something and like you know you fly to mumbai for like 40 minutes or something and you see a lot of people moving to goa for the same reason to be honest


to goa for the same reason to be honest i'm inhaling all this thing and i'm like whoa i'm like high on the i'm high on the candle dude [Laughter] see like in goa um still you're gonna take it in your hand just like second one before the uh i see a lot of people coming to goa actually a lot of like the film industry people move there for a longer time yeah like where i live it's like near anjuna it's like it's a really nice vibe you know it's like very relaxing vibe see i'm not i'm not too much into like techno parties and stuff but if i want to i would have that option as well you know so i'm just there you know like for a balance to work on my work on my stuff but i hope that more people would come to goa to build a big community like that you know what's the downside to being in goa internet connections and all that internet connections like shops certain amount of products i


that internet connections like shops certain amount of products i mean amazon works very good but supermarkets have limited stock stuff like that the availability towards the city like compared to the city is not that good but what's your love life in goa like it's loving [Laughter] no i mean i have a few like i have friends in goa i know like okay i have i have my circle in goa but yeah like i i keep my i keep really focusing on my work over there you know like i try to travel seven to ten days a month and and how's your heart chris my heart is good okay go ahead i mean uh yeah like i'm happily single okay but um yeah i mean goa has fun you know you know they say uh white boys are at the top of the dating pool anywhere in the world do you agree yeah that's that's what they say like on an average i'm happy with that do you notice that do you notice the yeah i feel like you know wherever you go if


yeah i feel like you know wherever you go if you're like um if you're standing out yeah this i agree then you have a good chance yeah yeah so yeah dude for like brown guys it's very different depending on where you go if you go to a place that has a lot of brown people already you're not you're not yeah yeah it's like yeah but but i've been stared down in like parts of germany where i'm probably the only brown person yeah exactly so if you go to that kind of side and you're also being like treated differently but i feel like yeah being a white tall guy it definitely has privilege for sure like what i mean you know if you're exotic in some form you know you get like more attention you know and uh so people are more curious like people i realize people are more curious about my opinion than about their own country people they're like oh how does the food taste and then my friend would be like oh it's good i'm like


friend would be like oh it's good i'm like i didn't ask you i wanted to know from that white guy you know how do you like indian food everyone's like how do you like indian food how do you like indian food they would not ask you they would only ask me you know i feel like south american and indian culture would be similar dude i don't know why there are a lot of cultural similarities did you feel that new track one thing i i chose india as my base you know after bali i was like where do i go you know i was like i want to go somewhere where i can have like for my business for my travels where i enjoy making videos and i'm not surrounded by sorry for the thai people but like boring people people who don't speak the language that much they're not so engaging in extrovert like you know if you put the camera on them they're like so i felt like where do i go so i was thinking brazil or


where do i go so i was thinking brazil or india and i've been to india two times before so i was like wow you know actually like i really love making videos in india actually my first vlog i made in india what what did you like about it about it i love how the people are like very talkative very fun they're not shy you know even if you go to like i went to dharavi i went to other slums and like people are super nice and super curious you can have good conversation with them they speak good english and it's a very rising country it's a lot of potential i see in india you know so obviously i want to be somewhere where there's potential rather than where i'm like the only vlogger in malaysia making content like you know but it's mainly kind of to be having fun also you came here yeah like i just want to go somewhere where i can have fun dude you know for the last two years during covet because we didn't travel


last two years during covet because we didn't travel much abroad so i was traveling a lot in india for the sake of vlogs and i saw parts of india that i didn't even know existed like himachal pradesh which are not really spoken about and i realized that there's so many countries packed into this one country it's the perfect country for vloggers especially like foreign vloggers yes you guys will get to show so much from your own eyes uh did you feel that like yeah yeah that's what one of the reasons i came here as well is there's so many states and within the state there are different worlds you know so i don't want to go somewhere where i'm like oh after two months like korea is very small from seoul to the east it's five hours drive so if i extensively making videos there i'll be done in like a week two weeks okay maybe more you know but in india i can travel you for five years i'm still gonna be like oh wow you


years i'm still gonna be like oh wow you know there's this part this tribe and uh that was a reason for me to like choose india as well because i can i love adventure i love new things crazy things you know so what's the craziest place you've seen in india varanasi yeah let's talk about it yeah varanasi like when i came here the first time four years ago i was like i wanted to go um i've seen videos of like the ganges river and like dead bodies float there i was like that's crazy you know what the hell and as like to be honest i'm not like a super in-depth religious person but uh what i love about hinduism for example it's like super complex there's so many different traditions and ceremonies and people doing different things at shrines and then there's a elephant there's a cow and people touch it i'm like so curious what's happening so when i went to varanasi i was just walking out of my hotel and every


i was just walking out of my hotel and every one minute i'm like what's happening there what's happening there you know it's super interesting bro as an indian who's grown up in a very religious family even i found varanasi to be very like insane so i can't imagine what you went through as a foreigner but i'd love to actually hear more about from a foreigner's eyes dude like okay for example when you're at the hearts like you know the places where they burn the dead bodies next to the river what goes on in your head as a foreigner i mean to be honest with you like i believe that even in religion there has to be an involvement you know evolution yeah you know so for example my mumbai friends like the one you know like they're doing like social media and stuff they would not go and swim in the ganges river so i'm just wondering how come you know the from the generations that some of them they're doing all these things like


that some of them they're doing all these things like burning the dead body putting the ashes on the river taking this like this bath and stuff you know and then some of them they wouldn't do it it's very fascinating to me because all this what they do is like what's happening you know and it's so much to process one i think find it i think it's cool to preserve culture and stuff yeah i feel like sometimes like is it still necessary right like i don't know how to answer that no no because uh there's a lot of things i'm like wow like you burn like 500 bodies every day which is fine you know but then there's some other things i'm like maybe you should not bust there now because we have signs that it's pretty bad for your health no fair um dude like do you believe in ghosts i do believe in supernatural things i've never had any experience but uh i definitely believe in it i've heard some crazy stories i'm like are you sure


heard some crazy stories i'm like are you sure and i was like whoa what did you have any supernatural experiences in varanasi no it's like a hub of supernatural experiences did you yeah [Laughter] like a lot i've made vlogs about it but they're in hindi do you understand hindi no only the dude if you understood hindi man like you would be like the emperor of india i've got to learn now yeah it'll be a hack especially if you want to stay but but it is a complex language honestly it's not easy to pick up i try to like step by step you know i'm not forcing myself too much but do you know do you know how to cuss in hindi i do what do you know i hope you have a beat for that yeah we do we do i know some swear was like [Laughter] the common thing isn't it you want to learn more of course uh do you know like dirty apple oh no okay ganda what is ganda


dirty apple oh no okay ganda what is ganda gandha is dirty gand is ass and god is person of the app like i don't know personally so if you if you go into that you come out dirty you're the guy who went into the gun you know dude the thing is if you grew up in mumbai you also grew up with these very unique swear words like there's a swear word called okay what is that love [Laughter] dictating a story and you want to make it pace here you'll be like yeah he told me this this and it's just like a filler swear word so yeah i mean big garlic india is always about flavors right yeah what are some people weirdo swear words dude there's there's so many there's this jah you know what no chat no jah jah jah [Laughter] another weird one i heard is uh wow i mean yeah you you hear some weird phrases when you grow up in this country like i remember there was this it was a


country like i remember there was this it was a dialogue from a movie where one guy calls the other guy which is um the sweat from a lizard's pubic hand it's funny because in germany we have that too where you translate it just makes no sense you know like what i knew you're gonna ask this uh wait wait wait okay i'm bad if you put me on a spot i'll think about it i'll just put it randomly i'll just shout it out okay okay in the middle of a story oh by the way wow um man you said that you went to dharavi and that was an experience and 10 years ago 15 years ago when slumdog millionaire came out there was a lot of urban indians who were pissed off with slumdog millionaire because it showed the truth but it showed a sliver of like the big cities you know i won't say sliver because again when we talk about mumbai being an overpopulated city it is primarily because of like the slum areas


it is primarily because of like the slum areas as well like it's a big contributor to that population but slumdog millionaire isn't like the complete truth and it's not the complete picture but when you go to dharavi as a foreigner bro and like you've grown up in dusseldorf in germany with like cleanliness and organization oh yeah yeah and then you're here what's going on in your head here to be honest with you when i came to dharavi i was like wow it's like it's not that dirty i mean obviously some parts are you know they're a bit more polluted i was like it's not that dirty it's not that dangerously looking and it's you know i've been to all the areas where they like do the recycling and stuff i was like it doesn't look like a slum slum i've been to slums and philippines and like crazy places you know i've seen kids sleeping in like garbage bins and like flies on their head you know the ravi was more developed


their head you know the ravi was more developed that i thought you know it's an economy in itself it's a small business yeah and they have like the small businesses and you go to different lanes and like in every door there are people working and they have a huge recycling right where they have like a billion dollar industry or something which is crazy but then i also went to like the housing you know where you go to like small streets and like i could not even fit through the street so i had a bad experience uh which probably the most dangerous experience i had like i was with this other guy he's a youtuber from dharavi and he was just like let's show you around so we went through this small streets and i had my camera you know and then like some guys starting to like run at us and like scream and like touch my guy put him against the wall and be like blah blah something in hindi you know and i was like what the [ __ ]


know and i was like what the [ __ ] is going on you know like do i have to fight all these people now i was like let's go and then uh you know he was just saying they're not happy uh that us for us for film you know so i was looking into it and like it's such a huge industry you know like the slum tourism overtook uh taj mahal and so what i'm like do these people get money probably probably maybe not like i can assume some tours they like they don't give anything to the people so then you have like all these people with their cameras like filming into your house i can understand why people get pissed you know so but i don't know what's going on you know i'm just hearing like some gum and all that i was like what the hell you know so i was like a bit more careful with the camera so then we we left and uh there was like a bunch of kids at another part so i wanted to like


of kids at another part so i wanted to like film them and then there were the same guys waiting in there and like i wanted to go there and then it's like don't go there don't go that's dangerous and stuff i was like that's better for the video like they think they think that i'll make the video to show the world how like poor the islam is how dirty it is you know i'm like look i'm just here because i'm interested how you guys live you know i'm not judging anyone but they don't they don't understand that you know so that's probably the most dangerous experience i had because i didn't know what's going on and there was just like a bunch of like 19 year old guys like getting really aggressive and like screaming and pointing at the camera and like dude you know like relax like you don't know what to do in this situation were they rapping at you sorry that's just i was like this guy's just subscribed to my channel by


like this guy's just subscribed to my channel by the way no no i i wasn't really too scared but then this guy was just panicking and i was like relax you know i'm from germany but i was like just tell them that we're just here to like we just explore if you don't want us to film that's okay you know i'll just do like that have you ever had a fight with anyone in india no in life yeah in germany in germany yeah i broke my thing here well 18 year 19 year old you know but what were you fighting about well i was actually defending a friend he got bullied so i was defending him and then it happened and then i broke this and then i was like this is not worth it i should have been defend you like i had to have the metal plate and i'm like dude this is not worth it i'm like i hate this you know like it's not worth it i i'm a person i can talk you


worth it i i'm a person i can talk you know i don't need to use violence or something but in the ravi i was like i'm ready it was a really cool experience i met really awesome people and like people who started talk to me and i was like this doesn't feel like it's like a it's a bad slum it might be overcrowded but if people are happy to live that way it's fine and at least you know they build something out of it you know it's like a seed of hope where they build something out of it i think it's really good you know yeah yeah i think i think there's a lot of uh people from darby and i know this because i have some friends who've grown up there there are a lot of people who are looking at their life aspirationally now there was a movie called gully boy it was about oh it had ranveer singh where he was a rapper from dharavi oh wow so there is this actual big music and rap culture in dharavi


this actual big music and rap culture in dharavi like this whole indian rap scene has come out of there oh wow yeah it's i mean in many ways it's the equivalent of like what kendrick lamar and all these guys are going through in the west yeah yeah yeah this is like bombay's version of it no exactly it's chris betzman is there any other last travel experience you want to share with us see like if there wouldn't be instagram i would already forget sometimes what i did five years five five months ago right it's just like so much happening when you travel but um what's the craziest place you've seen in your life um like a few islands in indonesia are really beautiful like um like bahamas like some natural things where you like even in australia there's so many things you're like how can this be like formed by nature like what you know uh there is a this is uh komodo island in indonesia well there's so many things like pink beach i don't know


so many things like pink beach i don't know like i can't just show one place you know but there's so many places where you just stand even like i felt this at the taj mahal you know i'm like when i went there in the morning and i was like hearing the call to prayer i was like oh this is like a magical moment you know because you see this in like books and like tv and like at some spots when you're in front you're very disappointed you're like the [ __ ] it looks better on instagram i know but at some spots when you're like there you're like wow you know what do you like about the taj mahal i like like i'm not too much into history obviously i looked into like the basic history but i just love the vibe like the sun rising behind it you know and then uh it's so majestic you know so i had to take a moment to just enjoy it before just you know content content and i don't know like the


you know content content and i don't know like the call to prayers we were like running in the morning run in front so we were like the first and then we stood there like there was nobody it was just really cool do you feel that optical illusion you know i've not seen it in my life which is uh it's not an illusion but like uh i was there the first time there was a lot of fork behind so you couldn't see anything else and then if you stand inside that gate it look really crazy like the fog is like surrounding it like and uh it's completely different what i was hearing back then you know what's your time in india given you as a person dude uh more patience i'm so impatient so if someone is like 10 minutes late yeah nowadays like back then i'm like nowadays 10 minutes i'm like well thank you for only being 10 minutes later not two hours you know you've had that where people have been like an hour later yeah yeah dude it's


been like an hour later yeah yeah dude it's like efficiency levels are very low you know sometimes i'm like ah and you've just accepted it as like a year now i'm accepting it you know so like yeah i mean definitely patience but uh i feel like i can really really connect with indian indians a lot compared to other countries i lived so i'm really happy otherwise that's something that's something which made me leave bangkok uh indonesia it's like if you cannot relate too much with the local population it's really hard to live somewhere long term you know so like i have friends in mumbai i'm like it doesn't matter if they're from india i can also like have the same connection with them like with someone from europe or something you know because they're very open-minded very modern you know while in some other countries it's like they haven't seen anything so to connect with them is really hard you know what do you mean they've not seen anything like they've not gone abroad yeah like i have


like they've not gone abroad yeah like i have some friends in goa you know they're super nice people you know but then they haven't left the country so they would be going like bro i went snorkeling and go i was so good you know and i saw like two fish and everything is like not clear and i was like it's not that good because i've seen better you know but for them it's like so beautiful you know i'm like good for you but why did you bring me here you know so it's it's like when we talk about things i'm like i have a complete different perspective while they think it from their little bubble yeah yeah you know so something like that would you say that india generally has nicer food in general than the world like what's your opinion on that uh it has a really good cuisine i love indian food um i don't know if i could eat it i mean i don't know i can't eat any food any day every day you know but it has


food any day every day you know but it has a good variety of food so which is good you know like in some cuisines you know like pizza pasta and stuff you know but indian food it has so much what what's the best thing you've eaten in india that way you're like that was insane uh late i'm so bad in remembering things there's some of the curries yeah i forgot the name i was like so good you know i love the basics like butter chicken naan bread you know like i like to try different things but then depending on my mood i like to switch like having thai food italian german food not too much why not schnitzel sausage you know like sometimes i'm like you know if i go home i'm like yeah i want some german food but uh i try to be like looking at my health so i'm trying to like you know eat like more raw foods and stuff okay but any cuisine is amazing like i'm such a fan and of all


amazing like i'm such a fan and of all the places you've traveled to in the world what's the weirdest or worst thing you've eaten in your life where it's like wow i ate a lot of [ __ ] tell us i ate like okay i ate in column in cambodia i ate a tarantula wow which was like the size of this like a big spider like yeah it's like a big spider deep fried and what does it taste like i think that they fried it like they deep fried it so much that it tastes like burnt toast you know that this black thing from your toast yeah yeah i ate a cockroach snake crocodile let's let's sit on each of those and why don't you tell us what each one was like the funny thing is like snake crocodile tastes like chicken if i if you close your eyes i will feed your crocodile what you would say is chicken it's so funny i ate uh like grasshoppers all these bugs in thailand and if you make


all these bugs in thailand and if you make them nice it sounds weird i got into this local gym in thailand right and just had a workout you know so the guy like the the owner is like huge guy you know he's like oh you want some protein i was like okay so we brought like a bowl of grasshoppers and i was like okay i tried it was actually good dude yeah what it really tastes like they put like a nice garlic flavor you know like i tried to remember that word go on so like you have that lesson flavor [Laughter] and it tastes like the grasshopper it tastes good like i swear to god like it was fresh mm-hmm a lot of people say like you know like from bugs you get good protein it's good for the environment you know but then yeah if you eat it like in khao san road in thailand on the market it's really bad dude i ate like oh yeah what does it taste like this this is super low


what does it taste like this this is super low i hate scorpion and it's just what does it taste like bro it tastes like muddy like muddy dry it doesn't have much good flavor but then people in some countries eat like crazy [ __ ] man they eat like rats rats you've seen them yeah i've seen markets where there's like rats cut open and like the insides are still there and then you just like the people pick on the organ like oh yeah i want this where is this in some thai market like northern thailand i've been vegetarian since about 2018 but i've had an insane amount of meat and i've had like wild food experiences like you and some of my wildest food experiences have been in mumbai dude really yeah yeah what did i try in mumbai no no animal like that no there's something called gurda kapoor have you heard of this you've not heard of it so um brusso goat is like a very big thing in indian cuisine like yeah


a very big thing in indian cuisine like yeah it's really common and if you've grown up in a house that eats non-veg you've eaten mutton in your life very likely and you've relished it like you've enjoyed it because you have it in your biryanis your kebabs whatever yeah okay now the thing is when i was in college i got this whole adventurous food vibe and i decided that i'm gonna go to muhammad ali road which is like uh you know where there are big ramzan celebrations and try everything especially the exotic stuff so gurda kapoor is basically the official of the goat which is like your balls your kidney your liver and balls taste exactly what you'd imagine balls to taste like i left just imagine it for a second did you put garlic on it yeah they have like a full marinade and all they have a specific marinade just for the balls how big are they like the size of your balls like i think dicks are different


size of your balls like i think dicks are different everyone's balls are roughly the same size big basketballs you know sorry this is the only one that i know oh my god but so how was it dude it tastes like kind of like boiled egg with like do you know what gamey flavor is like like um like gooey uh like bro like there's a strong have you ever had liver like of anything yeah yeah chicken liver yeah so liver has a gamey flame like you know that very it's you know you're eating an animal like you know you're eating like the something that's that's i don't know eaten some other stuff in its life so when you eat balls you're very aware that you're eating balls and the thing is they say the texture is flavor so you feel the texture of the balls in your mouth so that sounds like i shouldn't do it and make a real out of it wow this is no go do it you'll actually find it even now like if you if you


actually find it even now like if you if you go out searching more than you know it'll be a crazy youtube video yeah and it's it's worth eating and you know why you won't fall ill because they really cook it through and they serve it fresh i wouldn't say the same about brain like i've had brain like baja i had brain as well i had your brain yeah oh in mumbai i had yeah probably wherever you are in mumbai um where was it near cho bazaar yeah this is the same place we're talking about the same place okay okay yeah yeah that was a market yeah that's that's the area so it tasted like tofu yeah right like cheesy tofu so i was just like but then you know if you chew it a bit and like if you don't think too much then it's like okay it has a tofu flavor it's not too bad yeah that tofu is a great way it's like runny tofu yeah like that's what i'd describe it as but they say


that's what i'd describe it as but they say that that's the one unsafe thing to have because because brains don't get cooked through like completely like there's always a part of it which will be slightly liquid it's kind of like runny eggs like how scrambled eggs are yeah yeah sort of in that zone [Laughter] you know what i've tried in korea yeah a live octopus really it's a delicate the lick oh my god now my delicacy yeah it's super famous over there and so basically they take they have like tanks with octopus yeah they grab one and then some people just eat it fully wow which they do for the videos so it's not like so we saw the videos were like oh my god do we have to do this what if it crawls back up bro you have to chew it and like their videos but locals don't do that but anyway there's videos of like you know the tentacles of the octopus are really sticking hard like you stick something to your


are really sticking hard like you stick something to your window in the car to put your phone so like this girl she was just like putting this and the thing went in her face and she couldn't take it off and like your freaking eyeball almost came off like it was like like this you know and i was like let's do it but then the way they do it is like they chop they take the octopus they take it out they chop the tentacles off and they're moving like crazy you know and they actually grow back did you know that like i don't know that so they actually grow back step they put the hat back into the tank and after i'm like what the hell so then they cut the tentacles and they're moving like snakes you know and then you eat that with sauce and we're like wow okay it moves in your mouth as well it moves so you have to chew it really properly because otherwise it can get stuck here and you can actually die imagine the arm of


here and you can actually die imagine the arm of like something just like stuck to your throat bro imagine you just chewing and then the thing comes out it might be helpful in some situations so i was asking the guy i was like what happened if you eat the whole octopus without chewing like will it be like but nobody does it so you have to chew it really well and it tastes like it tastes like octopus just a bit like you know like sushi some of it is raw so it wasn't that disgusting but and they eat like live larva larvae or flies like these like like coconut flies like and the larvae is like yellow and they have both of it wow and i don't know if you've seen the tick tock it was a trend on tik tok for a while i know rest in peace tik tok india it was it was a trend of tic tac where people would be going live with the bowl of like these larvae and chopsticks and


bowl of like these larvae and chopsticks and that would be like donating money and then they pretend to eat so they had like 20 000 viewers so like they eat that raw like alive and like it's moving like maggots like maggots yeah wow and they would eat that and like in the mouth and then you can see it's like moving in them [Music] well korea loves this kind of weird food you know why what's the trip of eating it i was like why don't you cook the octopus how about that so it's just like they told me it's like good for power good for strength i was like like it makes you horny like that's basically yeah you become like an octopus i would assume that goat balls make you horny or at least more manly or something if you take goat balls and octopus at the same time oh god wow so yeah i love how different countries have like different foods you know we're like stuck on our chicken what what other adventurous places


on our chicken what what other adventurous places have you seen here in india yeah so i would say number one varanasi number two overall i think i love kerala why i love like i'm a jungle boy you know i feel like it's so much green and so much like amazing food people are super nice and uh overall you know the experience i had in like munah and like alipay was really lots of fun you know and yet i need to go back because the last time i went there was super rainy do you have any other insane uh experiences from your travels from all over the world chris do you see yourself living in india forever i'm sure not well not i cannot say forever but i can see myself living here for a longer time i have no plans on leaving now really like my plan is to travel to every state in india you know for the culture not for the girls and make videos like experience and you know if i like korea happens saudi


you know if i like korea happens saudi arabia like i can still you know go out and uh but i want to be based here for for a while what was saudi arabia like amazing to be honest with you like you you i never heard anything good about saudi arabia you know you think like it's like super like everyone has to be covered it's very open man super open i was there with the tourism board so um the new king has like made it like that that's what i've heard i can tell you it's gonna be better than dubai soon and i've heard that they're gonna drop their alcohol policy and like people go gonna party there soon they have so much money man hmm what what's good about like the country like as another than the fact that it was a surprise what specifically was good i think they are developing really fast like dubai is doing you know they're getting they're very modern and uh they're they're opening up a lot you know how


they're they're opening up a lot you know how from like super strict to like a country for everyone that's like that's a goal so which is exciting because look at dubai you know like if you've been to dubai 10 years ago it's like so boring you can't even buy alcohol you can't even do this and that couple non-married couples could not stay together so saudi arabia is is dubai in the beginning still you know so it's exciting to see how it's progress you know for me i also feel gulf countries compete a little bit with each other yeah yeah like i'll have more money than you yeah even in football like we see that with psg and manchester city i have a friend who studies anthropology related to the gulf and he said that it's totally a like status game at that level also when they buy these big clubs one buys like messi one by zerling island and it's kind of like a way of saying my country has more money


like a way of saying my country has more money than yours yeah yeah but uh yeah interesting good for the world we just see messi and neymar on the same team again yeah and we get to have travel experiences like this and i mean if a country has so much money and they want to do so many things like they actually want to do things it's exciting to see right like something from the start going crazy and i think that just recently like three four five years ago even opened the borders for any tourist you know so now they're doing all these huge campaigns where they invite creators and people to promote it you know and uh that is just the beginning like you know once they like fully go one last question for you on this show uh do you feel and i'm just trying to understand like a foreigner perspective plus you're like really well traveled so you have a reference point of like a lot of countries do you feel your head kind of goes to more spiritual thought when


head kind of goes to more spiritual thought when you're in india because you feel that i feel like um i'm like you know what's funny like some people say like i have an indian accent sometimes yeah yeah i see that really at that i'm trying to adapt everywhere i go so obviously when i talk to a lot of indians my accent will adopt a certain way of they're talking you know we'll start involving your head like this i'm like 99 [Laughter] so like it's like when you go to different places and people are super spiritual then i'm always trying to like blend in you know so def like i'm not 100 there but i want to try to get more into meditation more into yoga more into uh like getting more balance out of my life because these techniques they work and everyone knows it you know so definitely i think yeah yeah uh i see that in you bro because you're someone who has a lot of questions in their head like you know that's why you're


in their head like you know that's why you're traveling so much also it's to like answer your questions but uh i mean i maybe i'm biased because i'm indian but i can see someone like you staying in india for a long time this place with all its like layers and you know complications it answers a lot of your personal head questions yes yes and this is something i figured just by having conversations like this so mr chris that's the end of the show thank you so much for having me man it was a such a fun conversation masala dark conversation with chris i will be linking all your handles down below follow chris for his amazing bakchiothi oriented reels [Laughter] and all his travels and i will be seeing you in our northeast trip because we're at naughty trip i was like what because if i have a white person in my thumbnail i'll get clicks dude oh thank you okay should i take my like one button less well you're a great dude that's what


button less well you're a great dude that's what i'll say thank you bro it was a pleasure and we'll do we're going to do this trip yeah yes confirmed thank you for uh just your white skin that's going to give me a lot of clicks on this part because no i'm kidding but thank you bro this was very educational uh i think even the listeners got kind of a world tour through the mind of chris batzman yeah yeah that's that's what we want you know and like it's always good to tell people like i feel like nothing has changed with my friends at home most of them it's always good to see how people can break out of the bubble and create a life for themselves you know even you did and so everything is possible now you know i feel like it's it's something everyone should like focus on you know to just create a life just don't listen to anyone just follow your path and just go for it you know bro and yeah one of the main reasons i wanted


bro and yeah one of the main reasons i wanted to do this episode one was definitely the bakchodi and i expected the jokes and all that but two was i wanted to show listeners that a vibe like this can exist in life in terms of the life that you're living it's deeply adventurous deeply exploratory and uh you left your home at like a very young age so i'm sure if people meet other 31 year olds who've not chosen to go down the path you've chosen to go down you'd notice that you're a much more kind of wide-eyed human you're much you're probably much more peaceful and happy and like one thing i wanted to say is like in that terms what i feel like is very different in india is that people are more likely to stay at home until a very old age or even forever and this is something i'm like not too much of a fan of like i agree the family culture is amazing and like you know but without me leaving this bubble i would not


know but without me leaving this bubble i would not be able to create the life for me because i would probably be living the life my family wants for me or the society wants for me so being able to break out because of because of the internet nowadays it's amazing you know like who wants to become a doctor nowadays everyone because we want to become youtubers you know and like this wouldn't be possible 20 years ago you know but nowadays you can literally like paint art on the wall and you can make tick tocks and you can be a millionaire just by doing this whatever you like to do so i would encourage people to just like you know sometimes do what you like to do and you can make it instead of always listening to others yeah man you're a great guy i enjoyed speaking to you brother uh in a more spiritual context nice meeting you in this lifetime last one was fun we will see you soon mr betsman thank you namaste namaste that's right that


betsman thank you namaste namaste that's right that was a nice chill episode of the runway show the one thing i figured is everybody loves white people that's why we're gonna have a lot more foreigners on the show because foreigners give us clicks give us i'm kidding man but it is a trip talking to foreigners it's a lot of perspectives that you get to learn from it's a lot of experiences that get shared on the show uh of course we do a lot of research before bringing on our guests and i desperately want to know from you guys if you all have any guest recommendations please tell us in the comments below and let me know what you all thought of this particular episode as well chris betsman will be back on the runway show but until then follow us on spotify every episode is available 48 hours before it's available anywhere else in the world chris batsman i love you my schnitzel brother see you later [Music] you


uh what i would like us to see is the ancients never talked about the moon as a masculine figure it was always venus i mean it's a feminine female figure you know the question to be asked is how does shiva have a moon on his head i mean is it uh him or her or is it like gender yeah generalize is it a a form a force if you would go to a museum probably in london or in scotland or you have a small artifact and there'll be a whole museum built around it here we have i love you and raja loves leela written on it on monuments which which should have been safeguarded and we shouldn't be even people to touch and to feel when we show the sign we today it's victory right this symbol is also feminine so when we say victory it's venus so wow hey guys this is a sequel episode with dr ajay prabhakar one of india's most renowned archaeologists in the last episode he spoke about


archaeologists in the last episode he spoke about his time in africa's time traveling the globe this one will focus a lot more on his takes on india of course he's spoken about his international perspectives because most of his career has been spent globe trotting but just imagine for a second what kind of perspective that builds in your head i'm sure you're gonna enjoy this episode but before i let you slip in let me remind you to follow us on spotify with spotify exclusive which means that every episode is available on spotify 48 hours before it's available anywhere else in the world this is dr ajay prabhakar returning on prs for part two of this archaeology special [Music] we got another all-star in the house one blockbuster episode is done this is the second blockbuster episode with dr prabhakar it's a pleasure being here thank you for being on the show sir um there are very few guests i get this excited to talk about there are very few topics i get this excited


about there are very few topics i get this excited to talk about one very fascinating thing you told me about africa out there on the balcony was the commonality that some african cultures if not all have with indian culture in the form of worshiping shiva yes and a very interesting angle on it where shiva is supposed to be the divine masculine kind of figure in some parts of sanatantham and uh he's supposed to be ada nareshwara which is half man half woman where she and parvati combine and create a powerful form but in africa she was in the form of a woman what is happening here what is this uh i i love i would love rather if you could look at mummy water okay it's called mummy water that's the name yes mummy water is a spirit a water spirit and if i would show you her picture her picture uh and you would look at it you would even think it's i mean it's not a her i mean what makes it shiva


not a her i mean what makes it shiva for us why do you say just describe what yes so mommy water basically if you would uh she has a python or a snake around her neck just like how shiva has wears in various different depictions she wears tiger skin which is part has hair which is like twirled and not really combed or you know kept well he's he or she is like she in this case mommy water is just her you know there's nothing made up or there's nothing like you know kept about her just like shiva is like he is him you know if i were to show you her picture you would think it is shiva so and there are so many things and uh she is the water element as i said uh of course we have the connection of water coming from uh his head as well so there are so many connections i wish i could talk about it at length again yeah i believe even some of the seals they found in harapan manju had some depictions of


they found in harapan manju had some depictions of yes yes shiva we have uh we cannot say conclusively it is shiva but we have the moon again a very uh what i would like us to see is the ancients never talked about the moon as a masculine figure it was always venus i mean it's a feminine female figure you know so how or the question to be asked is how does shiva have a moon on his head i mean is it a him or a her or is it like yeah generalize is it a a form a force and then we have this narrative of ardha nareshwara do the african culture speak about meditation they don't they they have other ways of speaking about like they talk about unison now they also have this thing about wherein you can take that is a priest or a being can take up other forms okay shape-shifting yes wherein like mind could be connected i could talk to you without talking i could move mountains just like now this is


i could move mountains just like now this is also a theory which comes up in egypt wherein like you could move mountains in the way of you know with your thoughts that's how the pyramids got made it's a question it's a question because no one knows how the performance yes we have the ramp theory i mean we have the scientific ram theory wherein like you build a ram and do it but you cannot i mean no one you could say what you want to say but not going into pseudoscience again but still there's a possibility you know so was the human mind more capable than what it is today have you been numbed by various different things like toothpaste and plastic which crusts all over your pineal gland it's a conspiracy thing you know we have the same thing about the media today like if a child if a child like watches too much of you know television or if a teenager uses too much short form content or or video games you know if the mind is


or or video games you know if the mind is constantly you know there's this numbing aspect so has it you know is our or are our minds numb to many things which we knew before and we don't know now because even experiences today as we go out and experience nature you you feel even the ordinary water which you could even have here in a tap you know and when you experience the water which is falling from a mountain you know gushing through your hand you know the impact in the force is very different have you lost touch with such elements is very important on the last episode so you spoke about actually going inside the pyramid studying the pyramids was there any part of the pyramids or anything that came up in your studies that reminded you of india you were like oh this is from my culture again uh we talked about the pyramids being triangular yeah uh if you would see today and we talked about this or the hindu culture or i would call it a culture not a religion


or i would call it a culture not a religion so uh if you would see the temples of today ancient uh even in our scriptures they call it as a vimana and they are also triangular and vimanas aeroplanes absolutely okay so now for what reasons again i leave that open for debate the gopura or the vimanas as they call it they also have or use the the term garbage i mean translation can vary in different languages but again the the sacrosanct womb you know so uh when we are talking about that i mean does that doesn't mean a part of the pyramid or the part of the temple which contains the most energy or something like yes okay so it could happen and now there have been many studies even in the u.s wherein we have had things which are kept in the center of the pyramid uh it doesn't decay okay it stays on for a longer period of time like food yes okay so there have been of course it's not conclusive it's not done


been of course it's not conclusive it's not done and finished but there have been studies wherein like whatever is kept in the center of the pyramid the shape triangle uh it stays for a longer period of time it doesn't decay easy so could we have had power blocks or power elements so called the vigrahas which are actually power horses i mean power sources really which were kept there and their power never you know goes off what's the craziest temple you've come across in india where you're just like oh my god what is this place i think all temples are like amazing you know uh like whether it is in terms of architecture uh you know you know it's a there are some things i tried at home as well because i i'm a person who is fascinated by sculpting sculptures fascinate me because the kind of work the patients it's amazing so some of this i try to mimic back at home so we have had some things which i've created in my own place


had some things which i've created in my own place with all the effort i try to create it back home that'll i mean i'm just trying to prove that it is so amazing it blows my mind and i always wanted to get that feeling and sensation when i you know wake up in the morning that this is amazing like how could a human do it like so whether it's the definiteness of the skin the texture of the skin to the pose to the face the expression of the face the eyes whether it is the message what do you mean the message there are different messages which are depicted in all temples okay you know whether it is guardians of the temple to like who they are guarding to what are the story of the person who's inside you know around the temple what makes him so special what gives him that grand use when he when you go to a temple it's just not uh it's just not the going climbing up the stairs ringing the bell and you know prostrating


the stairs ringing the bell and you know prostrating and coming back that's not the idea it's also or that was not intended to be the idea the idea was to relive the heroism or heroinism of the person who's there it was supposed to be a celebration and it was also to imbibe those values in yourself whether it's again you know uh wisdom whether it's education whether it is you know slaying off your internal demons or like whether it was like bad you know yeah what did you think of so you mentioned that you've been to the sanctum sanctorum of the pyramids that's what they call it sanctum sanctorum no no no no no that is the indian context this is something which you can track along uh the inner the inner chambers are mostly sealed like they have kept it the way it is supposed to be set unless you have yeah there are there are also chambers which we don't have access to i mean no one has except the people who are working on


no one has except the people who are working on the what rumors have you heard now there are uh rumors that there were no mummies there uh they could have been mummies there are no memories there is what we hear uh there is no uh there's nothing which is there are so many rumors it could have been a power house there were objects which were like these are like tread you know mills which run all churning out different stories power sources uh which were found there how can you have such a big pyramid and there is nothing inside what are some crazy places you've seen in india like on your archaeological adventures do we i mean on the last podcast we spoke about science and how possibly places that contain treasure also contain booby traps like a very indiana jones kind of style places that you have encountered in africa have you also traveled in china yes okay okay that's a whole we're gonna get there after this yes but are there indian versions of that like you know


but are there indian versions of that like you know caves where treasures just hidden in which are not supposed to be explored yes the temples okay these are temples yeah temples again okay so these are treasure trophs i would say of i mean mythological information i would call them information rather than lore information which is there apart from that they also had material wealth collected over decades by you know patrons of the temple who were generally like maybe kings maybe rulers maybe so they used to keep it there because of the it was also uh devotion dedication and also safeguard you know the treasure because again that would probably the last point to fall you know a temple in a temple because the village or town is built around the temple that much to god wow so this this is a possibility that i see often that you know uh like each uh each monument has its place or each uh a building has its place so this would be something in the center of the town accessibility is


be something in the center of the town accessibility is also one thing security is also another thing so yes we've had this kind of thing replicated in many places do you think even in the modern day there's a lot of treasure hidden in india like in plain sight where we don't even know that oh the ground i'm walking on is actually hiding hoards of gold yes there are so many archaeological sites today which and i feel sorry again because if you would go to a museum probably in london or in scotland or in places like that like you have a small uh you know artifact and there'll be a whole museum built around it you know here we have treasure troves of you know artifacts and underneath whatnot uh we have i love you and raja loves leela written on it on monuments which which should have been safeguarded and we shouldn't be even like within the vicinity of you know people to touch and to feel have you been to any of these and have you seen the


been to any of these and have you seen the treasure yourself a treasure no i wouldn't say but i assume i want to believe that there should be more than what meets the eye what makes you believe and i'm asking you this because of your scientific bent of mind uh i believe temples as i said before like were chests for devotion for dedication and for protection protection really so a ruler would say this is what i donate just like how it happens today like a businessman you know gets a big huge deal and wants to do something for the deity you know it happens all the time like so so a ruler wouldn't be very far away like in doing such things so and the most important thing is the deity himself or herself he or she would also have elements i'm talking about material wealth really now would also be old would also be like carved in a particular way and i mean he or she is a treasure to buy herself you know


she is a treasure to buy herself you know or himself because it might contain maybe diamonds inside or possibility wow okay so all these invasions we saw over the years did they kind of steal deities and all for this reason that they figured that of course the it's also like beyond the material wealth what human beings aspire or move towards is power and loads of power you know so that's control because that enables them control alexander whether we see i mean different people coming from different points in time they always wanted this because they had everything else genji's khan or like you know we had different people coming onto different continents looking for the same thing you know so this is what something whether emperors or whether you know invaders or whether people who wanted power were lusty or full of lust for power were always after to get a piece of that action really to get a piece of that power which will make them immortal all right dr prabhakar it's time for the meat of the


prabhakar it's time for the meat of the podcast what do you think we're going to talk about i have no clue gotta talk about another form of aliens um there is a conspiracy theory from all over the world which talks about a reptilian race that lives along with us the weird thing is in ancient india we also have a theory like that it's the naga theory the nagas the naga people what is the naga theory sir like uh i think there's a mention of them in the mahabharat as well like they saved bhim's life when he was a child that's all i remember but the nagas keep coming up in ancient indian culture so what does uh the world of archaeology say about this or are they depicted on temple walls yes when you see uh the depiction of a snake and um if you would see most of the temples we have one way or the other the depiction of snakes everywhere so this is we have to understand that it's an


this is we have to understand that it's an ideology which is behind it so we have a whole philosophy again material in its origin uh and they again uh and there are so many stories even in africa for that matter or uh you know even in india about even they have their version of nagas yes okay because it's it's something which is which permeates or which which really percolates through the domain coming on to you know india and then going on to china so this is a tribe which was very strong uh strongly intertwined uh with nature that's for sure uh they also understood the cycle of uh life they also understood the cycle of mind okay you know how it grows as a human being how you know and it is depicted in different phases you know so so they understood different philosophy it was a very deep it had a very deeper base if you could call it that and it also gave power to women as i said before so whether it is a decision-making or


i said before so whether it is a decision-making or whether it's property most of it or many of it which you would still see in societies in kerala you know karnataka many places so again like you would see uh vibrations and going across to uh china where i mean if you would see some feats which are done by women you would see is this a woman really so strong like here i mean we have a depiction again it's a it's a societal depiction of a woman being coy not very strong physically i mean is this really a woman as in physically even physically strong like you know apart from the mental aspect of it the physically strong aspect of it this is something which is like highlighted and it is it reverberates again and again but but do you think that it was actually maybe dinosaurs that evolved into like this slightly advanced race again uh the reptilian part of it crocodile is also like our you know again we have a thing with crocodiles whether it's


again we have a thing with crocodiles whether it's uh you know vishnu saving the the elephant from the crocodile or even yeah there are different tales about crocodiles which keep propping up here and there now it could be just one of uh you know stories but it could also be saying a story about something else now crocodiles among again scientifically looking at it it's one of the older uh beings it's the only dinosaur that still exists put it straight so again if you're looking at it that way so now the reptiles like they they are all coming together in this they are echoed more in this tribe so could it have been that it is carrying a message from uh before of of something which existed which doesn't exist now what what do the stories say i believe i think you said something on the balcony that there are legends that they were kind of driven away or they left human culture or something like that yes uh now stories which have a very strong uh matriarchal


now stories which have a very strong uh matriarchal or a maternal influence now i would touch a little with you know i go on to christianity a little bit wherein the the stories of mary magdalene were you might say maybe it never existed maybe it's not the truth but mary magdalene uh though we give her importance the importance is just like you know jesus is you know a person who jesus knew like but her place in you know in the different bibles available she had more power to it she had more she had more influence she was a healer she was a seeker so wherein she is labeled a prostitute and you know shelved so that the primary hero still remains um one more burning question i've always wanted to ask an archaeologist is that has there been archaeological research done on kurukshetra which was supposedly the same battleground where the mahabharata took place is it true that they've done some sort of research there where they found some traces of


sort of research there where they found some traces of nuclear energy or something like that or is it just an urban legend uh nuclear energy or nuclear devices are not new or it's not like never been depicted in our uh you know whether it's i don't want to call it mythology our stories you know uh history yes the history uh so it's whether it's like uh the brahmastrip you know which is a nuclear bomb which is a nuclear device you know definitely or uh the invocation making you know even blades of grass like uh nuclear you know possibility with with words again i would go back yes the equivalent of european spells spells chants you know hymns mantras you know so whatever be the case making it more potent making it lethal now these are different stages of like how you could make a device so it could be rubbing of chemicals it could be saying something to make sound waves it could be blowing certain devices to make it potent these are all different possibilities


to make it potent these are all different possibilities which could have been possible in that age which is even possible now like you know different uh elite forces use different aspects of it you know in for various different reasons so again it's a possibility it's a possibility so when we even talked about vimana before yeah we had that thing of like you know we had lanka again we touched upon ramayana where like uh ramana carried uh sita in a pushback right plane yes a plane so how was it propelled you know how did he manage to take her there now these are questions like you would even say how is it possible planes were not even invented you know then so but is i mean it's a possibility that even uh we have vehmanika shastra right wherein like we have detailed descriptions of like how a plane is made is it still available it is yes how do you actually get to reading these books uh the the ones the one which i have is again a very different copy but


which i have is again a very different copy but there is one in the museum as well okay so wherein like i i'll just give you the gist of course i think it is in i'm not sure which museum it's one of the i think it's uh it's either the mysore museum or a museum in the north i'm not sure about it so we have copies there wherein like you have how much metal to mix the proportion like in which all these metals can be mixed together i believe mercury is also very key metal and yes is what they proposed these are things which we don't know i would implore in fact that everyone comes on board and starts picking up at least small small parts of it why haven't there been aeronautical engineers who already like doing that now this is uh this is where we i mean we we have given up so easy there was a committee set i think it was 1976 or 78 or 80s 81 82. there was a team which tried to delve


82. there was a team which tried to delve into what was uh i mean uh what was possible with those texts and they wrote off the text you mean usa wrote of the text no it was i believe like it was maybe it could have been influenced by yeah geopolitical powers it could be it could be we can never say maybe they took it and used it in area 51. it's a possible because these things talk about how a plane can be invisible how you can listen to a neighboring plane's conversation like really high levels of engineering or imagination or imagination or creativity really i mean we'll never know until we actually put it to use and start constructing that absolutely nice yes the devices or the metals are not known they are not known not known in the sense they don't they they say it in languages which are very local then or which are local then we don't understand those languages or what they mention or what they refer to now number two what language was it we don't know


now number two what language was it we don't know well it it it is in sanskrit but the the names of those metals are not understood okay at least i don't know any of them even others have tried i think they don't know to understand what these constituents are or the ingredients are they proportions now the matra is something which we don't understand math is something very different it's an advanced form of mathematics different form of mathematics really yes because we don't understand them what do you mean different form of mathematics they talk about i see it's like a centimeter you understand i understand meter you understand maybe let's say degree centigrade we understand probably the guys in uk probably will have some but they'll use google you know but do we have something like uh you know which says cow or matru like no those units mean how much does it mean a spoon doesn't mean a bucket full okay doesn't mean like so they have to be mixed in a certain proportion to


have to be mixed in a certain proportion to attain certain other things so that is when it also talks about there are um i think it's been some time it it talks about i think i remember seven chapters six or seven chapters uh it talks about the metals which could be used the energies which could be uh you know used to propel you know it had about six or seven again energies which could be used at different points of time solar okay that's why energy means kind of electricity yes levitation like how to achieve levitation you know so there were different instances i i don't have clear memory of you know all different aspects it talked about memory talked about metals being used it talks about the constituents like what are the different parts in the nose like the the wings how it can be undetectable how it can hear it is part of my book as well i mean part of it children is someone who wrote about the book and you know we've also mentioned in


about the book and you know we've also mentioned in our books so uh it is part of our book wherein like we explore what is the greatness the the the great science and technology beyond i mean which was existing in ancient india so this is something you cannot just push it away saying that it is not possible not possible by us here but let's set back you know sit back and then think about what are the different constituents which could make that you want to make a table or any device it needs certain constituents how much pain has the author and i say the author because uh i believe it was uh it was authored by muni bharadwaja but that apart even if it was created by someone to put about seven chapters imagining a thing which would fly because mind you and me like there was no nothing which was flying except the birds there to have like people sitting in a pilot co-pilot to imagine things as to what would make it to put it together in such


what would make it to put it together in such a painstaking manner if you can believe ayurveda why can't you believe like something like this you know i would say let us be more scientific in our approach and not push away things which wouldn't make sense yeah of course our team has gone through but it wouldn't like harm any i think i believe someone and pune even tried to make it fly and it flew someone else had also picked it up the way they went to great lengths to make it fly it flew but i don't know what happened to that project but we have been trying to make or give life to such ancient techniques or sciences i believe that the harappa mohenjo-daro language has still not been deciphered right yes uh hieroglyphic at least it wasn't discipled in 2005 when i was studying about it yes 17 years even now like see that's that's the span of time you know before before you know like i would just go off


before before you know like i would just go off you know into the books of history i think what they've started to figure now is that uh those weren't the only two early centers and that industry civilization was actually spread over the gangetic plains as well as in where the ganga exists and beyond but we've not been able to of course with ai coming in there's a lot of help which will be coming in reinforcement is on its way okay so at least them um they would be helpful in you know gathering there have been specific programs in fact which which are tackling this like is it the cracking that language yes what do you think will get unlocked when we crack that language definitely a whole sea if not a whole ocean of you know treasured robes in in sense of knowledge okay also how people thought how people did how people wear in terms of like we talk even today about uh you know the how glorified uh you know greek uh culture wherein they even had toilet water


greek uh culture wherein they even had toilet water running but we had those things even here you know so there were many things which were glorious during it is like really the golden or the platinum age of uh civilizations like if you could have it so some of those things will be at least revealed that it will be out in the world so that any scientific person who comes in will have a hope open mind to at least start with a good start you know rather than just saying oh this is another you know tribal way of doing things maybe we'll end this particular episode with the subject of prakrit which we just touched upon in the last episode what is prakrit have they deciphered that language entirely again this is also in the realms of mystery like really yes okay so but what comes in prakrit is basically also like in context of the viewer practice is possibly the predecessor of sanskrit or a parallel maybe an elder brother of tamil of tamil of tamil maybe in the


of tamil of tamil of tamil maybe in the same family probably one of the older languages definitely where does uh the tamil culture stand in the middle of all this because i know that it's actually deeply ancient but unfortunately only folks from tamil nadu know about table culture in detail it's rich it's it's it's heady uh why i say it is there is so much to learn because it's a language which is also of course languages have also evolved over time but it has many uh things in prakrit as well i i'm you know i got many other things in malayalam like i got malayalam as a case study because that's one language which i understood and i know how to go about it so in malayalam itself which is a much younger or so we believe uh branch of languages there are so many uh beautiful things which can be connected to languages in africa really yes like what linguistics is one one aspect of it which compares languages is also where the ai part came


which compares languages is also where the ai part came in where like uh you know uh we used to use uh programs to algorithms to understand like what the image is and how you know it relates to another symbol or sign in another you know language so there were so many crossovers if you would uh see the sounds so many of them or most of them were iconographic in the sense like they started with pictures pictorial languages so if you have ca so you could have a crow just an example uh and then that later becomes uh you know l kind of a thing or a you kind of a thing so similarly the again just because it crosses my mind the we let her be what do we understand of it since it's a it's so much about our segment i'll i'll just leave that to the viewer to guess for another three four seconds but we when we show the sign we today it's victory right this symbol is also feminine it's also the it it is the gerber where the the


also the it it is the gerber where the the child is boom yes so this when you say it's the universal symbol for a woman is we you know so when we say victory it's venus so wow so so the venus or the victory is the victory which was i mean this symbol could have been have long been used for various different reasons but in the v language is still there oh what's the male equivalent of is the pointed like upside down an upside down v yes it's a projection and a possibly it has many interpretations in english at least but it was used even in our language like is you know like this it goes down and comes up it's a womb [Music] whoa yes and we also is like you know ah i would like to go again into depths no go go for it go for it it's not the end of the show so again in various structures v has been used to symbolize the the unification or even older structures wherein symbolism is like key


or even older structures wherein symbolism is like key these forces have been used you know to showcase the unity the balance again pointing towards matriarchy and patriarchy together the the forces the joining forces it's not only about one side it's the balance what i'm trying to say and even even in the previous segments i said was it's just not one side it has to be a balance now what we are shifting towards patriarchal should have been a balance of patriarchal and matriarchy that is whether it's signs and symbols whether it's thoughts whether it's emotions whether it's the way we do things whether it's construction the arch whether it's your own human psychology absolutely are our interface our thoughts have to have masculine and feminine energy both for a complete holistic human being dr prabhakar there's still a lot more to unpack and if we don't stop this episode it's just gonna go on and we're gonna miss out on the fantastic dal party that's waiting for us thank you


fantastic dal party that's waiting for us thank you so thank you for having me really it was fun it was so much of joy you know uh talking with you i i felt i was just you know going on talking with our friends here and you i mean i had so much fun same so likewise uh it's always great to unpack information from someone who's accumulated it over the years and i think the indian internet is just starting to discover you there's a lot more to come and what we'll do now is we'll link your handles down below your website down below for more i highly recommend the audience go check it out thank you so we're going to have you back on the show speaking about africa speaking about shamans speaking about north america sure and all your adventures and all those indiana jones style places that you've seen in your life sure thank you sir thank you so much this is fun hey guys so that was the episode for today archaeology history fragmented history these are


episode for today archaeology history fragmented history these are topics that i wish to talk about a lot more on the show so please let us know your guest recommendations in the comment sections on our social media we're always on the lookout for new guests for trs please send in your recommendations and remember to follow us on spotify every episode is available on spotify 48 hours before it's available anywhere else in the world this is ranveer that was dr aji prabhakar and we'll see you soon [Music] you


so some people they decide to do but to others killing others raping abuse this is all dark energies this something like is over you so it's things because we all have something called anarta's desires if we don't control our desires they will overcome us but mantras is something like really connects you for example you are in love of a girl and someone from outside mentioned the name of the girl you will look around you know because just the feeling of the name of that girl is gonna Captivate you so that's God God will hear the name type for example let's say Hare Krishna is calling that so God is going to come to you that's the power of the mantras this is by far one of the darkest episodes that we've created we spoke about everything from exorcism to possession to Demons to satanic Cults to just some incredible life experiences because in today's episode we hosted ambika Devi formerly known as Juliana she left Colombia in her teenage and began her


left Colombia in her teenage and began her search for Krishna that's what brought her to India she tried learning more about Krishna she tried learning more about spirituality in general and at this phase of her life she's returned to the material world she's exploring the material world of course this podcast was extremely deep some parts of it were extremely dark and may not be comfortable to listen to but what I will promise you is that you'll gain a lot of spiritual wisdom as well by the end of this episode this is one of my favorite episodes not just of this year but probably that we've ever done on TRS I'll let you slip into it remember to follow TRS on Spotify but it's Spotify exclusive which means that every episode's available on Spotify 48 hours before it's available anywhere else in the world this is ambika Devi giving us one of our all-time best episodes of TRS enjoy yourselves foreign [Music] thank you so much to be here why are you nervous


so much to be here why are you nervous in front of the cameras in front of the mic trying to change that and today I'm going to change that okay today is going to be the change you've had one of the most like different lives that I've heard about um you grew up in a very peculiar environment in Colombia yeah life brought you to India very randomly yeah if you spend time in India and I've had some very insane spiritual conversations with you but the first thing I want to ask you is why are Colombian people so beautiful always um well Colombia and they are very very very happy it's actually one of the most happiest country even though we have so much work going on and so much corruption going on also but the people they always try to see the positive and they are very very happy always they Embrace everyone so I I also love my culture but I was very very attracted to Indian culture very so from very very young age okay what about it do


from very very young age okay what about it do you think there's similarities in the cultures uh well the people here in India also they are you know very warm very kind um very very but what really attracts me was the you know it's so natural for them to be like the the devotion the the love for God is what the most attract me it's just in their Roots you know and actually this is what catch me like the spirituality you feel like this is one of the most spiritual places yeah okay yeah for sure I as soon as I reach India I you know I it's like I come to India because now I don't live here anymore but I always have to come back to recharge myself this is a place to recharge especially you know in my spiritual I need to come here and there's a beautiful beautiful place I'm very very powerful and sometimes makes me sad that their own people they don't see that they don't appreciate the beauty the incredible knowledge they have like is


the beauty the incredible knowledge they have like is just incredible and so many people from the West we are coming here you know for that reason to increase our knowledge to focus in meditation to read The Vedas is is something like you are gifted and will be nice as you you are sharing with others and that's how we connect because I saw you are a very very spiritual and that's how we connect right so I appreciate what you do it's very very beautiful that you are doing this thank you uh the one thing that fascinated me about speaking to you was that you've not had a normal 20s when you think about other people in their 20s I don't think I've had a normal 20s either but my 20s have gone into capitalism and work and business and these things your 20s have gone very differently like very few people would have lived the 20s you've lived there'd be many people who would have lived my 20s but yours is completely different yeah yeah and that's