places which need that attention they may not be necessarily wrong but they just need attention please here at house here out from us we have been stuck here for so long please please listen to us please try to help us out we have no idea what is going on like I said um if I go on to say from a very statistically point of view out of 10 cases we get eight of them are cases where the spirit has no idea they are dead they're still in that Loop of doing their day-to-day job and doing the day-to-day course and whatever whatever and they have to be you know for example if a guy used to go to office every day and waking up the first thing he does is go to the kitchen and makes a coffee then even after that man is dead the family members are still there they will still hear something happening in the kitchen they'll still hear the coffee cup falling down or something like that because he's still attempting to do that now for the man he's trying to do


do that now for the man he's trying to do something he's failing which is fine but for the people who are alive they're like what the how is this thing falling on its own that is how things go so many of the time the space has no idea so that way if the spirit of a certain place has no idea they're dead they'll try to get your attention that is one kind of spirit the Third Kind of spirit is spread who know they are dead who know they can cross over go to their world but they still they want to stay around for multiple reasons the reason can be starting from uh Revenge to just trying to help out the family member that's the Spectrum we are talking about you know so when Bollywood showed that a spirit is coming back to avenge its death it's very true what is life like as a spirit in the spirit world according to you based on everything you've encountered yeah I think I I would call that that's what hell is even if you're living positively


that's what hell is even if you're living positively for your own no no the same thing for majority of the spirits spirits who are stuck okay so let's say a spirit is attached to a particular person you know and even after that that person is going to stay attached that spirit is going to stay attached to that person now until is that person has passed away that spirit is going to linger around you know not going to its spiritual world not trying to possibly enjoy if there is something like that in that world and still be lingering around that person and that person might have no clue that there's a spirit and that Spirit could be his own best friend or family member or someone like that so imagine you are around your favorite person and that favorite person is not able to acknowledge you is not acknowledging you is not listening to you it's not able to see you that hurts so what could be more hellish than that or for that matter um a person who died accidentally is now stuck


um a person who died accidentally is now stuck to the place or because where he died for example so now according to this period according to that person who died there is no world outside these four walls so you can only go to that room come to this room and then like this is my life it's like a video game where the map ends at the edges yes and you cannot cross that map anymore the moment you go you will be you know like there's a disorientation happening and that also happens because a lot of spirits fear what is lying ahead of crossing over what is lying ahead I have no idea here I'm still looking forward to it uh you know so that's why I keep on saying you know people so we also comes a lot of people who are depressed and everything through our uh you know like my partner Puja we uh we also have a spiritual Department we do all kind of inner child healing and you know generational healing and try to counsel a lot of


generational healing and try to counsel a lot of people and when someone says you know yeah we want to die we don't want to live anymore you know this is too much to handle and uh just trying to calm them down I say do you really think even after death you'll be free you have a lot of work to do you know you know the it's so difficult to bring up this topic on the podcast um when we talk about something like suicide one I feel you should talk to someone and understand what impact it will have on your loved ones your family members yes but two from a more spiritual perspective and this is just what I have understood from speaking to monks and people like yourself existence after suicide is possibly way worse than what your existence was before exactly and you know no matter how positively you are staying for example my Nani who has been trying to help my mother but imagine what all she could have done if she was alive of course she was taken away


if she was alive of course she was taken away due to some reason which is not as painful and as something like suicide but still you know it's it's not like what it feels like to be a human being and that's why you know every day we wake up we wake up very energetically because we know we have been gifted this one additional day to enjoy which despair is only getting no matter how positively they are staying unless unless there is something else that is happening after that stage also if I go on to say that so many of these Spirits have actually proven that there is no concept of time as such because some of them are how do I say some of them are still stuck in the 1800s if they died in a war there's a graveyard in khandala where German prisoners of Wars have been buried we were investing in that place we encountered a soldier who was buried back in some 1800s and when we asked what date it is it says


and when we asked what date it is it says 1800. the man has no idea it is 2023 2022 leave that run where we investigated holkar bridge in Pune City one of the most haunted locations in India we encountered a spirit that has been stuck there for the last from the 11th century 11th 11th Century Century and you know that guy's name was srinivas you know he said his name is Mr srinivas you know the authority like thing and we kind of understood and then we we were using other devices there to kind of explain explain that he was a scholar who has put in a Cupboard like a structure a box-like structure he was mummified put in a Cupboard like structure box like structure and he was thrown into a river he was alive while he was alive he was murdered basically for some reason I don't know what uh how how do you get the name but from what device so like the device I explained psb7 uh you know it's a device that


explained psb7 uh you know it's a device that we use that scans radio frequencies now it can it can look like any other radio but it's a small one eight scans radio frequencies but what makes the device very different is that we control the speed and the direction of the scanning for example let's say there are 83.5 208 radio channels you know that's a spectrum we have the control that it can scan from 83 to 105 or 105 to 83. now what happens by that is let's say if I'm playing uh you know recording or doing a session playing it forward let's say it's going from 80 to 105. let's say by chance we are falling in the 93.5 Red FM there could be someone saying some random name Puja and we're investigating a place and we're like oh Puja is the name of the spirit but if we reverse it every sane name every legal name will be reversed Puja will become some aju or something then we will become some weird name it


something then we will become some weird name it will be so weird that it it is kind of very unin how do I say that the human mind won't be able to uh decode it so by that what we are doing is we are keeping our mind at base saying that please do not interfere by finding similar words from it so when we reverse it everything that comes in and because we also can like I said control the speed of it we speed it in a way that whatever output we are getting it is what we call as white sound okay one second I'll have to break this down a little more and this is the engine Army also excited there was a movie Once I saw called White Noise very old movie I have heard about it yeah and it was about this concept that Spirits communicate through White Noise yeah uh now white noise is similar to your own older televisions I don't know if our gen Z let's not understand but when you flip to an untuned Channel there was just like a


flip to an untuned Channel there was just like a yes yes that is white noise yes or when you tune into a radio video that has no Channel or anything like that no response that is white noise very true so within White Noise you find these sound bits that's not sound bits but using that white noise they try to communicate so we get responses on that device so when we get Mr srinivas we heard that from the device wow so you can actually hear yeah in real time voice yeah in real time it's a male female whatever we hear it why is in the scientific Community also talking about this uh because in the past there have been many people who have disrespected this field and made it a work of a fool if that's I'm if I'm making sense why because in the past we have seen not just in India but all over the world there are more fake people in this field than people who are genuine okay so it becomes a common misconception that is very fake that cannot happen you know


that is very fake that cannot happen you know so I I know of certain physicist from you can all who are staunch believer of paranormals and are doing researches which will blow your mind and then I know also people who do not believe in it you know as a part of our job the team we have we also work with doctors uh to understand the human mind more because the more we understand the human mind the more we can reach out to the fact that what else it can do to trigger certain responses to do certain things to do what happens after death you know so it there are people who are researching but then you know I think but this is my personal belief we are too busy in our day-to-day job to give any importance to a subject like host of spirit yeah okay because science helps engineering and your only do research in those scientific fields which have direct human application yes which solve a human problem exactly and this may not be an out and on mainstream human


this may not be an out and on mainstream human problem yeah yeah that's what exactly it is you know so even when and you know if we go by the definition of paranormal which is also decided by a few of the scientists it says that something that cannot be replicated in a scientific lab which is impossible to replicate because paranormal doesn't necessarily happen in a scientific lab how can you conclude in that aspect okay okay so there's multiple challenges and you have to go out on the field yeah yeah Joe Rogan's podcast yeah in USA was culturally important because he brought out things that the scientific Community yes should ideally acknowledge or the evidence-based Community should acknowledge yeah and I hope that TRS does the same yeah in some other departments but I mean if there is actual quantifiable data here the scientific Community should be talking about this and this is the answer you should give the Skeptics yes so how do you explain this yes but then you know what ranveer I have considering for the


you know what ranveer I have considering for the experiences that I have um I can we we have this belief that no proof is required for a Believer no proof is enough for a non-believer that's how it goes at the end of the day it's how open you are yeah no argument will convince a skeptic yes there was a debate I did in 2016 there was a skeptic strong skeptic doesn't believe there was a guy who does occult and all and uh there was me there was a debate happening I was all healthy healthy you know in terms of debate and everything all respectful trying to put on theories keep you to uh put it very briefly you know at the end of the debate I thought I excelled in it and I thought I showed the skeptic guy you know there is a possibility you know whom the people believed more that's the guy who was handling and saying things like I can capture a ghost in a lemon that's what they


capture a ghost in a lemon that's what they believed in that's who they believed in and I was getting bashes how can a guy say things like quotes spells do not wear white sarees so is the openness at the end of the day if you are open that's why you are learning things if you are not open you'll always be in that one thing that we have been taught since that's why so many white-sided stories are there in India okay hold on actually let's come back to the lemon thing later yeah I wanna know I want to continue that white noise tangent yeah so the srinivas story yes so with the white noise is basically what they use to communicate you know so that is the device we use to get voices and all and uh and why white noise because we all know that and it's a very scientific thing every color comes from White you put a prism in front of a white noise it becomes whip girl same goes for so basically White Noise contains all the


goes for so basically White Noise contains all the Spectrum it's just the way of splitting it same way White Noise White Noise contains all the Spectrum so our idea is if we can type in all spectrums by that white noise maybe we can figure out where that spirit is talking to so that's how we got in touch with srinivas and as we are trying to communicate and ask more question by getting words like cupboard uh and then we are like cupboard are you talking about a box yes then we got the word tape and we thought it's it's saying that we are taping as we are recording it and uh we are like are you saying that you know we are taping it it says no tape again so when we're like why it's coming tape again and again without where you mummified tape you were taped it said yes and uh why did you die there was no answer to it and we felt so bad because someone from the 11th century is still stuck we just wrapped it


11th century is still stuck we just wrapped it up in two minutes without trying to answer more ask more things by saying you know Mr srinivas I think you should know that it is 20 21 this is 2021 I have a question that might seem like a skeptical question but I'm just asking um how do you think he learned English so the same question was also asked by a lot of people uh and when we put out that video on our Channel and uh even I had that question so I went on to Google and I realized English is one of the oldest languages and it was used 11th century back then really yes so I'm I was so prepared for this question it was used in the 11th yes yes yes okay it was used back then and uh of course not the Modern English that we have the broken English or I don't know I think the literature people will have a better term to it or someone like that we know that more but uh they they you used to use that


more but uh they they you used to use that but you know when we said that Mr srinivas you do not belong to this place anymore and you know we really sorry what you went through we have four people here we are really praying and uh you know there is no praying praying to someone but just praying for someone that please find light and we said that and uh 10 minutes we just shot everything just out of respect so that you know he understands what we are trying to do 10 minutes later we start off the devices and everything and everything and everything and for the next 45 minutes there are no replies and uh why are we so sure that it was Mr srinivas and nothing we're faking it because the two guys were accompanying us they were not from my team they're just Skeptics who are out there to experience things you know so that's what Mr srinivas was I think it's one of the closest emotional cases that we have investigated you think he got released I think so


have investigated you think he got released I think so I really pray that he uh you know he he went to light as we call what does it take for a spirit to get released the realization just realization yes realization is the important part but then like I said you know there are a few people who a few Spirits uh people and space are so common for us a few Spirits so who have realized but they want to stay voluntarily okay again because of like their reasons whatever reason they have how would they take revenge say you've been murdered by someone you can't and no Spirit can the only thing it can do is just try and scare them by doing activities and this person not being able to understand what the hell is happening with me that's the only thing that can happen if the person has what you call as a conscience or a conscience whatever it is then he might think oh is it the same Spirit but then why would that person think you know so yeah there are


would that person think you know so yeah there are different reasons why you know there's also one reason why Spirits do not cross is because they fear the Judgment Day as you have been taught there's a hell uh in Hinduism in Bible hell some other things are like that in different different religion so because uh we have grown following those things somewhere or the other uh even after death we have that fear what because everyone knows they have done some sin in their life it can be a small lie to their mother or some mother like that that spectrum they all know they have done something also when they are dead they are like oh freak what will happen now will be will we be taken and put in a boiling uh container of you know oil and everything where we'll be tortured and everything they have that fear so again those pairs they also do not leave they are like and that's why a lot of uh you know prisons are haunted because as criminals they have something in mind


haunted because as criminals they have something in mind that like we cannot leave this place there is something waiting for us that will be more harsh than what we went through in the prison sale there is this case I think it's uh recently talked in our podcast um 1974 there's this guy called Michael Taylor so migrate data was a very nice man and everything with his family there was a dog there were two kids and but he never went to a church as such they were not devout so they were living in uh Central England I think asset and they were told by their neighbors that you should go to church and all and your husband like uh Michael's wife was Christian Taylor and Christian was told that you know maybe you should take your husband to the church because he's not going through some bad phases because he's not getting any job he has some body issues and everything maybe you should go to the church in the church he finds a girl who is preaching very beautifully and all and Michael


who is preaching very beautifully and all and Michael starts feeling some attraction and at one point what happened was during one of the prayers or something like that Michael reacts very aggressively with uh the girl whose name is Sophia I think her name was Sophie or something like that let's say it's called Sophie and uh he charges towards Sophie and uh he's trying to attack her be aggressive the people in the congregation they thought that Michael is possessed and within a night they declared that an exorcism has to happen you know what happened to the racialism they put crosses and crucifixes in his mouths he was tied to beds and everything and he was you know holy water and everything exogism is happening so much so that the three priests who were performing the excision they got tired they were like you know you go back home first red flag actually you'd never leave a person who is said to be possessed to home you know with his family they were like


to home you know with his family they were like you go back home come back next day because we are very tired you know he goes back home the next day he is found on the street covered in blood and everything you know we're acting like a baby in a fetal position and the police guy comes in and he asks what happened and he just says blood of Satan that's what he's shouting and screaming and he's like what happened now the passerby they know this is Michael Taylor and they say that this is the house he lives in when the police guy goes there he already sees there is a group of police who were already in there and something is not right they go on to see that Michael has ripped apart Christian's face with his bare hands he has removed his eyes his her eyes her tongue ripped apart as in he she died of her own blood she drowned and who was this Michael Taylor Mike who was the family member uh who is a


Mike who was the family member uh who is a Christian Christian is the wife his wife his own wife okay the children were not there you know with his bare hand he had tripped apart she is unrecognizable then he turns his motive towards the dog limb by lame hit tears apart every part of his body and he comes out and you know he is caught by this police guy later and uh he's then put into custody then he goes to a prison you know imagine what he would went through in the prison considering what he has done possessed or not it's a whole different case if he is possessed he's going to affect every other cell mate out there because of course he is going to be that aggressive guy and everything but who is going to notice that thing that is the important point the police say do not give a because he's a criminal at the end of the day so as of now too there could be a lot of prisons in the world there are many


a lot of prisons in the world there are many famous One in Australia where prisons are very very haunted but there is nothing to report who will report someone had dated at once told me that many serial killers and serial killings are actually linked to demonology yes one of them is Son of Sam burari case also burari case uh okay so the reason I brought up this is actually I want to bring up that Dharma yeah I think even his name was linked to some sort of demonology yes a lot of lot of those actually I I don't watch all these serial killer documentaries I just don't Vibe with crimes yeah I Vibe with Horrors but uh what do you have to say about that serial killers like Jeffrey Dahmer maybe give some context also to the listeners because not everyone watches Netflix so Jeffrey Dahmer was one of the serial killers who mainly targeted the uh how do I say the LGBT Society uh mainly uh it tried to find he tried another reason you


it tried to find he tried another reason you know while I'm talking about these things he'll constantly hear that I'm referring to them as it then he or she because I believe ranveer anyone who does something like that no matter if it is Jeffrey or for that matter son of Sam and the circular Sam or uh Ted [Music] all of them cannot be human being to do something like that first of all you cannot be a human being anymore anymore exactly they have lost that aspect of soul to have Humanity or have emotions to understand what to do what not to do yeah that's my personal belief if we go dive uh you know if we dive more into it there could be some connection some serial killers have been very open about their connection to uh uh human sacrifices and occult and doing all kind of Satanism Satanism and Satanic rituals to uh carry out their work while some others who are very popular like Jeffrey there have been some sayings about


popular like Jeffrey there have been some sayings about Jeffrey but nothing more as in not very popular sayings about him but like I said Son of Sam Sanam Sam uh you know Son of Sam no no first time hearing this am I forgetting his uh his uh full name his name is Sam something like that and he was a guy who targeted mainly females uh prostitutes mainly um and he killed them brutally you know and he said that he was asked to do that by the pet talk of his neighbor who he considered to be Lucifer he thought the neighbor was Lucifer no the pet dog of the neighbor the dog asked him to do those killings now for me as a Paranormal Investigator hell with the dog hello with the neighbor how can you kill a human being irrespective of their job profile in irrespective of what they do is respective of their gender to do something like that and not just one not just to to kill them to rape them even after dying it you have


them to rape them even after dying it you have to be some kind of demon you have to do something like that no sane human being will do that so my concept of these human beings is that they were possessed by some kind of demon I'm not I'm not justifying that they were possessed hence they did that because they have become Demons by conducting something like that as in those are the modern world demons we should be talking about yeah I I sincerely hope the audience gets the perspective that way coming from this whole podcast is about the occult and diviology we're just trying to explore this topic more it's kind of a what if conversation yes based on a lot of experience that sarbabai has yeah uh okay now coming to demonology what is this linkage uh um honestly my ex-girlfriend she she knew a lot about this stuff just again out of interest about serial killers about demonology and she used to keep bringing up that link otherwise I didn't even know about it


up that link otherwise I didn't even know about it correct um is demonology practiced in India so for and what is demonology so I'm a demonologist so I've been certified by the church to be a demonology a demonologist what does that mean bro so demonology is the study of demons very simple thing but what makes it more complicated is we are talking about entities which are said to have never worked the Earth to explain for example we have we are here someday we will die our soul will be out here or we will go to somewhere else so we know what we call as in our term as human spirits but demons are said to be entities which are called inhuman Spirits they have never walked the Earth they have never taken a physical birth from a normal human being I just want to also mention that based on the conversation with rajashi nandi he was a tantric on the show uh he spoke about pesach which are different forms of Indian demons but it's probably


are different forms of Indian demons but it's probably the same things as different words for the same yes yes so pisacha was um you know was once a man who had the inclination to eat her off flesh and all so he became a pisacho same goes for asuras as otherwise like you know demigods and all who went on to choose the wrong path and did something wrong but you know majorly um as of now the demonology we know is the Christian demonology all thanks to the movies and all that we have been watch watching and what the terminology I did also was from a christianism point of view because I did form a church now the reason why it I did is because I wanted to know how true it is because you know this could be a spoil game for a lot of people uh for you to uh we have received a lot of cases where people say that they have been possessed by some demonic entities or that the house is infested with demonic entities and when we go we


infested with demonic entities and when we go we investigate at the end of the day we figure out and we get to know that it is not any demon but a spirit who is portraying itself to be a demon you mean a spirit of someone who had passed away yeah a normal human spirit and demons are much more powerful demons are very powerful okay so they do things which are very powerful you know according to what the research shows study shows they can do more damage to human beings emotionally and physically they can cause more havoc in the place as compared to normal spirits and everything which is fine but I wanted to really learn that what is the reality behind it because a lot of uh concept the the concept of demon actually Origins from religious books from religions that's where it comes from uh not just from Hinduism even Buddhism has its own demon Jainism also has its own demons christianism has his own demons even a couple of days before uh


own demons even a couple of days before uh I'm sorry may not be able to pronounce that uh religion that starts from Zoroastrianism yeah that's the one uh even they have their own demons they all have their own demons why because to support light you need to have those bad figures out there to support light support light as in to pray God so God is light right like it's good everything pure everything Divine so too so we have this tattoo here you know it's half yeah it says that we work in the dark to serve the light so basically that means that to believe in the light you need to see the darkness here so all kind of religions they created these demons is my personal study of course that they created all these demons so that our faith in that one God or number of gods whatever it is becomes very strong because we will fear that if we do not get inclined to that God something much darker is waiting for us so yeah is that true something much


waiting for us so yeah is that true something much darker is waiting for people uh like I said uh ranveer if uh I don't know if Jeffrey Dahmer is still alive or not but if he's dead he he should be one of the most fear demons right now in the spiritual world because if he did so much being alive imagine what he would be doing with those number of powers you would be getting in the spiritual world so yes it's very much possible let's break this down a little more about especially about that case you spoke about from 1974 where that guy ripped up my container yeah does that have signs of an out and out actual demonic possession so if you ask me I have a lot of angles to it uh and that's my job as a Paranormal Investigator first uh Michael could be all schizophrenic Christian never never knew about it because of course in uh in schizophrenic uh schizophrenia patients if you're playing along with the skills of any other hallucinations they have


with the skills of any other hallucinations they have it will only uh make them more aggressive and more triggered by it so it's a schizophrenia patient is saying oh I can hear noises and if you say oh ha even I can hear noises then he'll start believing in it more and the symptoms and the signs he'll be getting more under that disease basically it could be all schizophrenic Krishna has no idea and this is we are talking about 1974 as of now and we're even the topic of mental illness is not talked about very openly imagine this is 1974 or before that still nothing like that so he could be all schizophrenic and he went on to do something like that because of his mental illness that he went through and of course they can be aggressive why because of the things he went through you know he was kids of let's say he was schizophrenic then he was exorcised he was shoved crucifixes in his mouth no man should go through it he's


in his mouth no man should go through it he's a patient and he's going through that is one angle second angle is Michael could be a serial killer from the very beginning because in the research shows that Michael could never have a proper job in at any place wanted flag why is not having any job why is his life not very well why is not moving out all signs of a criminal of a serial killer so he went on to kill third reason would be that the person was actually possessed so there are many angles to it what is the real reason same goes for The Exorcism of Emily Rose the very famous movie analyst Michelle it decided that she was all possessed and everything she did you know 600 squats until she ruptured her knees she was doing those genifluctions and everything and she was exercising everything and she died during an exorcism but it was years later figured out that you know the father and the parents were charged of uh what would I say of killing a human being of


what would I say of killing a human being of manslaughter because they did not consider the fact that she could be a psychologically ill which is very important when it comes to demonology and understanding demons but there can be a very strong science element yes or it could be totally anything scientific because you know when we get a case of possession of a demonic person the first thing we ask please show us medical reports have your daughter been to a psychiatrist have your son been to a psychologist have there been MRIs have there been study on his brain and you won't believe out of 10 cases all 10 of them would have never shown a doctor so what do we do please show a doctor then come to us and that's how we deal a case it's very important I mean just one tiny anecdote yeah I remember in the sixth grade I started reading a lot about UFOs and aliens and very often I would read about it right before going to sleep correct and very often I would have dreams of


sleep correct and very often I would have dreams of getting abstracted that's a human mind the content you feed it yeah it will have an impact on your dreams your reality your subconscious mind yes um you know if you feed your mind your mind is going to feed you exactly and so many of these possessions are nothing but just psychological effect of a human being or something that they saw or a situation they are being going through yeah there's a case in Bombay it happened during covet only uh where this small 15 years old girl was said to be possessed so powerful that uh she used to throw her parents away no one was able to hold her and she slapped and uh you know bit her psychologist as well so psychologist was like sarba Puja you have to do something I cannot do anything now so we go there now if a person is possessed by demonic entities or Spirits there will be other signs too that happens in normal paranormally activated Place there'll be things bowling


normal paranormally activated Place there'll be things bowling or hiking EMF and other things will still be happening because the entity is still there it is still editing that kind of energy when we went there was nothing we investigated the place and everything now Puja is very very good with kids and everything we're just sitting and I asked Puja you know do you think there is something because I don't feel anything dude I am like you know I've investigated a lot of places this doesn't give the feeling of a demonic I was very excited that I'm going to investigate a demon after reaching there's nothing Puja says no sir but I think there is something else to it maybe maybe we should talk to the girl alone are you sure because she's biting everyone I do not want to get injections and all after because we do not know of course right what is happening uh she's like no I'm very sure we talk to the parents the parents are like are you sure because she has been


parents are like are you sure because she has been very violent in the last couple of days and uh you should be careful and we were like no we'll take care so we close the door and we make her sit on the bed and we are sitting and Pura just asks directly so by now we have interviewed the girl and the parents and everything puya just asked are you scared of the 10th board exams and for a second she was like yes is that why you're doing all these things because you want to avoid going to school yes so if bitter psychologist because yes but how do you explain the throwing away the parents see what we call that is called excited delirium that's the psychological term to it have you seen one yeah uh where uh Vidya Balan supposedly possessed by uh manjulika lift this bed directly and then once in the heart calls him uh whatever name is and she's like you know what the hell just happened so that's called excited delirium what


happened so that's called excited delirium what happens is uh so for example you you're a gym guy right so the strength you have right now you never had until you began gyming so you did not do anything apart from of course the protein shake and whatever healthy eating and everything the strength you have it's not that you bought it from a shop and you attached it it was somewhere in there you just tapped into it and you increased it right so just to give a very simple example when a mother sees her kid in danger she will do everything and impossible things to protect her it's because of added adrenaline in the blood yes that makes you run faster exactly exactly so when we are focused in something we want to do something we don't see our bodily limits even though it may happen that hours later we might you know it there could be a body ache or something like that same goes for when you are building your muscles sometimes you'll start with 10 then you


your muscles sometimes you'll start with 10 then you link this to 15 and someday even though you are asked not to go to Twin you'll still try it and you'll still do it it is still there somewhere that's what also happens when a person is actually not possessed but is being focused or controlled by something that is completely psychological okay okay cool um my question is about actual demonic possessions now have you seen cases where there's actually a demonic possession as of now and we'll we have seen like I said uh we have seen a lot of we have got a lot of demonic position cases but every time we have gone down to investigate find a solution help the client to figure out either it is psychological or it is a spirit that has become so heavy heavy in terms of uh making his presence felt that the activities it is doing is no less than a demonic activity but as of now I have not come across a demon that is called belzebub as of now I have


that is called belzebub as of now I have not come across a demon that is called Asura why because even though I may have come across I consider them as energies at the end of the day in artem we do not call them demons or Spirits or ghosts we just call them intelligent energies energies that can understand us and can respond to us intelligently okay so when we are dealing of course you know like I said uh there was a case once we handled and things were very severe we thought oh we finally have a demonic case but at the end Puja figured out it's not a demon and we also concluded on the device that it's a spirit that is manifesting very severely very aggressively that a machine in a big Factory is closing on the uh workers hands and chopping them off so powerful that has happened with Spirits nothing demonic how do they become that strong see it's a factory they're already getting a lot of EMF so they're already


already getting a lot of EMF so they're already getting a lot of their food to eat and Manifest this is a recap from the first episode where you spoke about how Spirits feed on EMF on EMF what else do they feed on you said that's a whole circle the EMF human energy again it's some kind of EMF and the batteries of cameras mobile phone anything or any place that has active EMF it can be electrical it's like you know that's why the Electrical uh plans is the malfunction because they are absorbing energy to manifest okay anything that has EMF that's what they use okay now I'm going to shift tangents completely but still keep it related to this EMF situation yeah temples churches mosques dargahs yeah is the EMF field around those places also different yes it is because at the end the EMF device is basically um capturing things that are so basically what the device does is it is not capturing a ghost that's what the common misconception is what


a ghost that's what the common misconception is what it does is so to go on to explain in very simple way is that what we call Spirit as energies there are already other energies in the environment or you know electrical energies there is ionosphere in our atmosphere there's also Earth's EMF out there so if two energies will come in there is some fluctuation it's common Basic North Pole north pole come uh together they will repel there is some fluctuation I would like to give you the real meaning of haunted many people think if we are calling if if we are using the word haunted that means related to something paranormal now the very basic meaning of Haunting a place is frequently visiting that place okay so that's the traditional meaning of the word yes so if you are calling me for a fourth podcast I'll be haunting your place so that's what actually the meaning of hauntings are so a place can actually be haunted by a lot of energies lot of entities and everything or


a lot of energies lot of entities and everything or human beings for that matter and everyone is radiating some kind of energy when we are going to a temple or we are going to a church there is some higher form of energy which is already radiating something we are trying to pray to it of course there'll be EMF when so there are a lot of abandoned temples too that we have investigated abandoned churches too we have investigated the emfs are still there yeah I want to mention this is something SRI M the same Sage I mentioned earlier he said on the show he said the human body has electricity yeah you study spirituality from any school they'll talk about this the human body has electricity for example what's working through your nervous system right now so it's there no so the uh the leaf just moved very randomly I think the camera got it anyway I don't wanna I swear to God and see the heating of there is right happening in my bag same direction I don't


right happening in my bag same direction I don't know I hope the camera got there was a leaf that just moved yeah I know I heard it I heard it happening it was that loud what is happening okay I'm going to get back to it I'm sorry uh so basically the human body has electricity it has charges I had a bad tennis elbow finally the only thing that really healed me after months of physiotherapy was Reiki Reiki doesn't have a scientific explanation along with Ricky when I actually went to the physio they gave me some kind of EMF treatment and she told me before giving it to me listen there's no scientific proof behind this but we see that it works for a lot of clients so we're trying it on you and it works exactly now my angle here is there has to be some sort of Dragon Ball Z a soft version here yes you've seen Dragon Ball Z create a blast I don't know if you can create a blast unless you're very trained yeah


you can create a blast unless you're very trained yeah of this monk or something but I definitely know that your body can give out energy and for any skeptic I dare you to try a session of taiji and see what your body is capable of when you do enough taiichi and you're guided right you will actually feel energy in your right way that's important yeah someone needs to guide you in Tai Chi she's a form like ancient martial art where you actually can work around the energy field around your body and you do certain hand movements because of which you'll actually feel a ball of energy in your hand you'll feel like a force of energy in your hand yeah no matter how much I say you won't understand this until you experience I feel it yes okay now keeping that man what is all this this is basically electricity yes it is and I think it's I think we have all studied it somewhere uh as a kid that we have neurons and they are giving some kind of


have neurons and they are giving some kind of electricity for the transfer yeah now when you pray I pray you pray hmm I've known many people from many religions all of whom pray yeah to something outside the body yeah obviously there's something leaving your body it could just be a message from your mind correct and if you're really deeply involved in prayer definitely there's some level of that same electricity that leaves your mind true imagine lots of people pray together yes in one room yes what will happen to that room is so much electricity going some of it might reach God or the higher power a lot of it might be stuck in that space yes and now EMF devices actually of course can measure this of course and of course and that's why when you go to places like this you feel this satisfaction which no other place will give no matter how uh you know how much you believe in God or not irrespective just going to these places have they they contain that vibration and that frequency


places have they they contain that vibration and that frequency that will calm you down because like you said there all of us are praying somewhere or the other someone to someone or the other and all those prayers are here some prayers are very good you know some are just praying for the benefit of everyone you know and that's what temples and EM uh churches and when they have the emfs and we have yeah captured those uh do you have any stories about Abandoned temples and choices I yeah so recently we went to nanita uh you know uh the way you investigated this abandoned church uh alongside was this Hospital which we couldn't access Now The Story Goes Like This is that uh to keep again very in a very brief manner uh there was a doctor during the British era who was treating people who was very good in his job and a lot of people were being healed Hill hasn't cured he was a proper doctor and uh and everything everyone gets getting healed everyone is very happy suddenly


everyone gets getting healed everyone is very happy suddenly he started predicting death and he just said that on this particular day this guy named Rahul for example he will die on 15th August uh 1847 for it for example uh and the man used to die on August 19th um kamla will die and kamla died so he started predicting but after he predicted what he used to do is those patients as in his he the other people he used to predict about with his patients basically not random people so he used to get those patients and he used to put them in a particular room where only he entered and he called it the mukti koti the place where you cross over basically you find Enlightenment and uh every every time a patient goes in everyone knows he's not coming out the patient is not coming out he's going to die years later after the doctor died and the new British officer came in to rule uh rule as in govern he figured out that the doctor killed all of


he figured out that the doctor killed all of those patients damn intentionally they never died like that he killed all of them he said 15 August is going to die he took them and killed that person why he was experimenting on something what is an afterlife or something like that something like that God knows now coming to the case the story just adjacent to that hospital is the church that church is where people have been through the doctor has been through the patient has been through the church is very much open it's not uh uh uh not like a operational Church there is there are no crucifixes there are no praying rooms there's nothing it's all done ruins completely but you can go and there's still benches and everything and when we went there we were there with Puja was there after my teammate uh Savio was there were there to investigate you know the first thing the psychic said is that the entities in this Forest are not human so answering a question of demonic entities there could


so answering a question of demonic entities there could be entities which we do not understand and probably those are the entities that are demonic you know so when Savio said that their demonic entities here pujas are the Demonic entities here I'm like okay so should be investigate outside or inside first Puja is like no we should inside investigate inside first because there are also entities inside which are scared to come out because of the Demonic entities so we went in and we started investigation so we do this experiment called Estes experiment now the device if you remember the psb7 like I said it gives out a white noise so what we do is in this test experiment we basically plug in on your phone or a noise canceling headphone and we put what we do is we use that headphone to kind of sound cancel anything to as in we put the headphone to Puja Puja gets that headphone she wears that headphone and so she is directly hearing that white noise whatever is coming in all the


hearing that white noise whatever is coming in all the noises and voices she's hearing that also to take it to the next level we blindfold her she has no idea what is happening why we are doing this is because by blindfolding her we are stopping or blocking the most important sensory uh how do I say a thing that is needed for her in a situation like this she needs to see what is happening but we block her and we trigger her another sense you know you might have heard that when one of the senses goes another one activates also there's this whole angle of you can get high if you're listening to White Noise and you cover your eyes yes it's the it's a hack to get high this used to be an internet Trend when we were kids oh is it I had no idea yeah this used to come up on like four rooms and all that right it's called something but it triggers a state of your brain like LSD I don't know the exact angle but it's


LSD I don't know the exact angle but it's something like this and they'd say that you shouldn't do it because you end up seeing things which you shouldn't see yeah so basically you actually see things so they are not getting high they are actually communicating with the spiritual world you cover your eyes and you hear White Noise white noise noise canceling White Noise Pooja has no idea if we are there or not or she's just sitting all alone dude don't try this at home please yeah please don't it's like I said we are me and my team does things here in India that no one dares do yeah and yeah please do not do that uh and I want to say your prayers just like for any kid who's thinking that I'm yeah please don't and uh Puja is all blindfolded she's all set and everything and uh considering the kind of mind I have in terms of Investigation I'm like let's do one thing let's make a set exactly where the altar used to be to trigger


set exactly where the altar used to be to trigger more things so we take her and we make her sit on on a bench and uh we are investigating and investigating investigating and Savio is a even though he doesn't follow his religion as such he he doesn't go to church or anything as such but he's a certified pastor so he knows he's preaching and everything and that church was used to used for preaching you know what I did I said we always do one thing you become the father you know of this priest of this church and preach things and he took up that position and he started preaching and he won't believe Puja was sitting all silent for some time and the moment that triggered she started blabbering things that I'm getting this I'm getting that getting that at one point I said you know let's do one thing let's all pray together this was to be a place of church a place of prayer Rich to pray together all uh together so I'm


Rich to pray together all uh together so I'm sitting on one of the benches where you you know pray and I'm asking you know come sit next to me let's pray together what this is Buddha has no idea what we are talking what we are discussing Puja says I am seeing people are now standing and circling like they are about to pray she heard that as I'm speaking here how can a skeptic say that it's all planned it was not even scripted for that matter that is one thing second thing as we are continuing our investigation investigation I happen to ask you know why don't you make a noise you know we all have been talking right now you have been getting replies from puj and all fine why don't you give replies Make Some Noise if you dare enough Make Some Noise you know you're telling the spirit during the spirit nothing is happening then in 10 20 seconds later Puja says I'm hearing a guitar here and really what the where is


a guitar here and really what the where is the guitar till I am again hearing a guitar so then we are like you know probably because it used to be charged and in charge they used to sing and pray probably it's some residual energy that she is tapping into and she's hearing the uh guitar then she says I'm hearing a Tabla I'm hearing a Harmony I'm like what the is happening then I'm like oh dude to the spirits I'm like dude you don't have to make her listen to the sound you have to do something in the physical world and right I say as I say this in one of the rooms where the clergy or someone like that you know they used to go to dress up for the prayer there was a loud third they understood that something like that happened and I asked are you scared of the demons that are outside you know and it and they said yes you know so I just happened to just ask you know okay do you want


to just ask you know okay do you want some help and they said no no this is how are they communicating with you uh so like I said we use we use multiple devices EMF is one of those but out of EMF there are variety kind of devices all the EMF have a different kind of uh sensitivity to it and considering we know that they can all be manipulated through something man-made we make sure that we have a variety of it and we're getting replies on all of that okay you know so uh yeah though that investigation happened but the the whole point of saying is that you know people generally say that um when you go to a place like that it's not haunted when you go to a temple it's not haunted you go to a church it's not haunted it's actually haunted but not necessarily by an evil spirit they're a good spiritual haunting that place which are actually helping you out for example you know no matter how scaryly they show it for the


no matter how scaryly they show it for the sake of movie for the sake of drama at the end of the day that person is allegedly getting possessed by a divine power who is doing you know giving out messages or doing things have you been to one of those Mata Chad gayi situations not yet not yet but you know for that that also we have come to a term called Mata Anna phenomena oh you'll have to explain that yeah it's basically when a deity a positive deity possesses someone who's open to The Possession yes and then answers questions for other people Yes actually went to Cola outside Mumbai don't want to mention where it was but it happens outside Mumbai okay uh and we saw a possession not an intense one a very soft one and um it was divine you could tell with some higher energy and it was in a Durga Temple okay very positive energy but okay yeah not not just for my information are you scared by the visuals someone on


information are you scared by the visuals someone on the day we went they said that it was a shant Cola and on a particular day of the week There's a rudra cola which is more aggressive more aggressive yeah so the chandan was just Divine like there wasn't anything it was just a dance but people with us as not in our group but people in the temple fainted and all that was a little okay that was a little strange the whole Temple was very gripped okay by what was happening and I've started believing in the Divinity of kolas and things like that in my life I'm definitely going to go and search for these things correct correct I did feel blessings that's what I'll say ah perfect so the reason I asked is you know so because what I'm going to say uh I had this context or this thing not been discussed it could have been in some different angle the reason I asked you is because there is a group of people there are certain people


there is a group of people there are certain people who can actually Channel I'll use the word Channel instead of possession Channel those Divine energies to do some work it can be giving out messages or something like that I completely believe in that why because it is not just uh these people I have seen I have seen some psychics to doing that of course not that intensity not that Divine probably that's why they're not that affected but I've seen people or Spirits or uh people who have who are channeling things you know the psychics and all for that matter to give a live example you right now you are channeling something yeah you are not prepared with everything you're channeling from somewhere the questions drop into my head exactly so uh before every episode I say uh Saraswati Mantra yeah so you're downloading things you're channeling things so that can vary to places but there's also another angle to it and I like I said it's my job to find both the angles I respect these people I know


find both the angles I respect these people I know they are very true but then we also have to see another where they are not true and they are faking it and rightfully so why because a lot of these women we see majorly these things happen in rural areas a lot of these things do happen why because if we go down to the histories India has always been this male dominated Society so women in this Village especially rural areas they were always dominated they never got what they wanted uh if they wanted to wear something they probably were not given could be any reason so they could never bring out their desires or their interests which they really wanted to once you are married you have to suppress all your interests and hobbies and everything so what we saw that uh not me personally but few of my team members have been to certain places and they figured out that a lot of these women do this is because they get the attention which they actually deserve you know so if you have been to


actually deserve you know so if you have been to this like you said you've been to this place you have might have seen they are being prayed they are being offered food and flowers and everything that's what these women are doing because they will be getting fruits which they usually won't be getting because their mother-in-law would be like oh shut up and do your job but there can be situations where actual deities of course of course like I said that's a very different thing the reason I'm saying it's a Mata and a phenomenon is because a phenomena can be true or it can be faked which is the case with everything you've said today I figured that this is possibly why the Paranormal has a negative yes vibe in society because there are fakes as many as there are real people exactly and that's why you need to know and that's I have I'm a strong a Stern believer that like I said if you want to believe in light you have to know the dark yeah


believe in light you have to know the dark yeah you know it's it's only when you hit rock bottom you'll crave to reach the top that's how it works so yeah uh uh I'm still stuck on that question about demonology I've known people who believe so much in demonology that even the T-shirt you're wearing with that star on it yeah they would take you to be uh representing Satan because that's where the head is at you know about the beliefs layer demonology that everyone who slightly uh uh even wearing a satanic symbol or something is a satanic person yeah now um I also have to ask you about this whole situation in Hollywood and America where you see a lot of celebrities dressing in satanic outfits and there are reels yeah the people are commenting saying don't take this as a joke it's basically conspiracy theory what's your opinion on this because you spoke about how positive deity possession can uh help you out can help other people I'm sure


uh help you out can help other people I'm sure there is a thing like negative deity possession there is worship of negative deities which also might be able to help you out so when you're doing this course on demonology I'm not going to name any of the dealers I'm not going to request you everyone knows what the ultimate king of them is yeah name starts with an S yeah I don't even want to name it in this section yeah uh how do they go about teaching you that like there are prayers where you pray to us no so basically uh the so demonology that I did I did from a very uh positive point of view not the satanic the curing yes yes I want to ask you thoda about the negative in terms of these rituals happen even today yes they do for the sake of material gains not just material gains just for also of course yeah obviously material gains is the major thing people look out for but sometimes people just do because they want to have


but sometimes people just do because they want to have fun just experience it just experience it because they just want to and if you ask them why because we want to that's only so people still do that they still happen there's a lot of open cases too which are still out there where people have sacrificed on Satanic rituals and everything and all those things have happened at that particular place and uh the place even is still haunted or has let's say demonic entities out there so things like that do happen it will it will happen for the generation to come because somewhere or the other everyone has that that that Curiosity that dark side that they tap into and sometimes get controlled by it is where it leads them to something like that have you seen hereditary I have what did you think of that movie because we had a guest on the show actually come discuss Heritage he's like there were actual satanic mantras in that movie yeah yeah other director has also directed mid-saw monies of yes


director has also directed mid-saw monies of yes amazing I think one of the producers were also this producer of Final Destination or something like that there's this movie where everyone's dying yeah he's one of The Producers Final Destination haunts anyone who sees it yeah because you think that your plane is gonna crash or your roller coaster you're just coming by and I saw a lorry of pipes and everything I'm like yeah something very creepy about Final Destination also yeah um are those directors and producers doing it for fun they could be or they could be this thing of that we want to bring authenticity but by doing that I hope they are also taking some precautions to do that uh as of now in India I know few producers who are good friend of ours who every time if they're doing something horror something particularly paranormal they'll call to us first can we do this can we do that in what cases do you say don't do it uh especially when you have to use something that is


uh especially when you have to use something that is very real for example using a real symbol of course the person has to show its creativity and authenticity they will use it and I'm like in case you want to do that let's do one thing let's Shield your place or do use more positive things hidden so that your set is protected what are you saying yeah in Tandra we have yantras yes which are basically symbols and objects which help fuel the Tantra yeah the Tantra in itself is a technique for spiritual growth yep and as we spoke about earlier every religion has Tantra yes we just call it different different names they say religious practice or occult practice or whatever yes and every religion also has yantras which are symbols and objects yes and every religion has objects uh sorry uh symbols which they have uh channeled let's say or they have derivated specifically to protect themselves from demonic entities and evil spells every religion has it what's it in India yeah in India we always use om


it in India yeah in India we always use om okay it's always there nothing is done the right way it also becomes a symbol of protect protection and everything uh in in uh witchcraft or anything there's Pentacle there is uh uh eye of Hamsa then there is uh in Viking symbols for example this Viking symbol mjolnir this is Thor's hammer basically but still a protective symbol the Celtic knot in between those three Tangles even they are very protected all your tattoos like some yeah they're all protective symbols actually they're all protective symbols you got them legitimately for protection no so uh we have seen that there's these tattoos they kind of come to us that you know get this done kind of thing yeah I agree right because uh we believe that when you're tattooing yourself you're actually integrating something very foreign into your own DNA 100 I I have this I saw that I already marked it at home I have this and there's um yeah and and as I age I go


there's um yeah and and as I age I go closer to my tattoos and people laugh at them like make fun of them yeah why do you get this new Young mistake every day I wake up and I look in the mirror yes and I have a deeper connection we activate those things yeah this is us for a better word what you said so these things they're like you know uh sigils of Archangel Michael and Raphael and everything there's all our Warrior of God basically but you know I believe that it's completely off topic or also coming from a person like me but you will connect to it because I believe there are ascended masters and all who are helping I don't think it's off topic it's a part of it for me or of course for you too because you know in the beginning of this podcast we already talked that I'm a firm believer of that I may not be from believer of a particular God but I know there are ascended masters here there are a lot


know there are ascended masters here there are a lot of other things you know we can certainly talk about after this thing is done but yeah you can't say them online and not just online but I think people might take it some way which I do not want like they'll call you yeah okay yeah uh you know because at the end of the day like I said we meditate and when you meditate and people who meditate will connect to this when you meditate you see this world and realize these things we talk about are real yeah not just the negative ones but also the highly positive ones there was a moment in my childhood which became many more moments after that where um I remember I was with my mom in a car and my sister was with me and they were having some deeper spiritual conversations where I thank my mom because she used a podcast with me when I was a kid I just didn't know she would talk about geopolitics and these things and this is what I'm doing for a


these things and this is what I'm doing for a living now which is why I can talk to anyone correct my mom taught me that very true she was having a spiritual conversation with my sister and parallely I think the first Spider-Man I just released okay where he does that thing and I was just thinking that hmm there has to be some superhuman abilities there has to be something deeper about being human that we are not taught in school yeah and that was just a raw question which died in my teenage and in my college life because you're so into your education system and then as I became 22 I had an Ayahuasca experience yeah I had spirituality enter my life I meditated immensely I learned about these Masters I met people like you and I realized that what I thought of as a kid yes was just re-tapping a memory from an older lifetime where I probably knew all this stuff and it was just dormant correct and through my sister my mom talking about spirituality it got


my sister my mom talking about spirituality it got triggered triggered basically yeah but I think human beings and human bodies minds and souls are capable of growing extremely strong yes that's what it is and that is the answer to everything that we have been talking for so long now the human mind and the human body is capable of a lot of thing that that can explain a lot of things it's just that a few people are way too ignorant or just that they do not have the time and the patience to work on it it's like building a muscle you have to be very patient and work on it work on it work and only then you'll see the result yeah uh this seems like it's a great end for the podcast but I have a burning question I will get out because if I don't ask you this then I'll feel like you know though I know I'm gonna record many more podcasts with you over the years what do you think about crystals oh crystals we


what do you think about crystals oh crystals we love crystals uh crystals are very powerful I I should laugh upon them in the same way after one meditation at one point in my life and I'm building a meditation you know at the end of the day every person on this Earth is going to experience something they always laughed or never believed on and then that is the day they'll become Believers yeah um just I didn't ask for it was just drawn to a crystal shop bought some saw the effects drawn to another shop uh I'm not making this up right now but as we are coming we were planning to get you something then we were like you know we're just meeting for the first time some people think oh he's just you know being very stalker or something like that but I'm like you know I'll just meet him for now and if things continue I'll get him that thing I was planning to get you raw crystals because we have crystals rock crystals and I was


because we have crystals rock crystals and I was planning to get you crystals I need to get it yeah appreciate it man uh but what do you think of it they are uh see crystals again uh if we go to the scientific part of it they come from nature and nature has all kind of answers to you know whatever is happening here and considering they are so seeped into it for millions and millions of years they have all the abilities of healing protecting Shield protecting shielding and everything if done the right way so crystals can certainly be used to keep not just negative Spirits away but also negative people away uh crystals can also be used for cleansing a place crystals can also be used to heal yourself but the important part when we're in everything that we have talked right now is you should know what you are doing that's important what does that mean that means that the the crystals for example they need to be charged so if you're not charging you're just keeping it


so if you're not charging you're just keeping it in one corner and attending it two three years later it has gone dominant you have to reactivate it those are how do you react a very basic way is uh Moon's energy sun's energy they sound more they all are radiating some energies all frequencies you know that's why even during full moon there are full moon meditations there new moon meditations there are solar eclipse meditations because during all those astronomical phenomena there's some changes happening in the environment if we meditate if we can tap into it in the positive view we can get a lot of benefits from it somewhere the crystals can also be activated using those methods you leave it in Moonlight or something yes yes that's it that's it and next you are all fine also if you know Reiki healing you know other healing you can heal it and cleanse It Off because ultimately what the crystal is doing is it is absorbing all the bad things and negativity of your life no


all the bad things and negativity of your life no so some after some time it has reached its limit so until unless you uh you know dump it and refill it with its normal energy it's like a remote where you have to keep changing the batteries do you think meditating around it charges it yes it does it does but again if you are putting a little bit of intention that you are charging you know intention and visualization can go a long way in meditation yeah it's it's the very base of meditation you know of course there are various ways of meditation but the moment you bring in the visualization and that's why when you said the Spiderman I connected so much because Doctor Strange or whatever shown in the doctor says so it's true in the spiritual World there are layers to the soul and the symbols he uses and everything very connectable you know so intention and visualization to important part okay um they have their own intelligence crystals yes it they do they do uh maybe someday later when I


do they do uh maybe someday later when I have a question I'll show you uh that you can do something and you'll see them move they'll they'll start fluctuating because of your energy and from there if we go back to the topic we had of Dragon Ball Z that there's something in our body that if projected the right way it can change everything around life force GS yes G is the right word for that yeah so they can do affect crystals and also human being that's how healing originated no yeah and that's when people elevated to being healers yeah I meditate in this room dude and I've seen that the plants here flourish a lot of course they have to be when I saw this snake plant and that monster up behind they're so well very very well done concerned it's a podcast room and you have to keep it very shut yeah to keep the noise out and still with minimum oxygen and everything even though they don't need much it's just still flourishing right now


need much it's just still flourishing right now yeah um don't put too much care into them it's just I don't know but I meditate here I do home chanting unless something to do with the OM chanting I have crystals in my room now okay again it was never a Believer I feel them helping me for sure man correct yeah just that's all I'll say like the activities you choose to do the vibe you put out changes your environment it does it does this seems like a nice end it's nice and positive after that whole tangent brother thank you thanks man thanks man yeah dude I'm just looking forward to seeing everything you do in your life thank you so much thank you so much but you know I would like to take this opportunity to say that thanks to you that people are not talking about this topic it's very necessary also necessary because uh people are trying to understand and and are seeing the different angles to it because of the kind of guest you're bringing in so thanks to you


kind of guest you're bringing in so thanks to you for helping out the Paranormal World spiritually as well as in the physical world thank you bye uh I just hope many people get their freedom yes and many entities get there yes that's all I'll say yes certainly enjoy uh this episode again because you guys are going to listen to it again thank you thank you thank you looking forward to doing Hindi episodes with you all done thank you thank you so much to say about this one that I can't actually say on the internet there were things that happened in that room while I was speaking to sarbjit there were things I felt after the episode I don't know whether I felt those things because of the residual energy of this kind of a conversation all I will say is that every dark episode directs me more towards my meditation practice I realize how strengthening and how protective the act of meditation is on your mind and your soul so please meditate it's one of the biggest passions


please meditate it's one of the biggest passions of my life and that's what's led me to creating level super mind so that the same energy that I discovered over the last eight years of practicing dhana I hope you're able to gain from the same practice extremely detailed guided meditations beginners for intermediates for advanced practitioners please begin your meditation Journey especially if you're fascinated by the world of Darkness that we keep talking about on TRS and for more episodes just like this makes you follow TRS on Spotify every episode is available on Spotify 48 hours before it's available anywhere else in the world you'll be back very very soon keep listening keep praying keep meditating [Music]


and today's time of social media no privacy it destroys your life uh one sentence edited in 15 different ways put out in 15 different ways and it's destroyed our lives you know it's made it impossible it's I'm I'm scared to talk I saw that with with 50 kids over there all willing to go back and climbing kargil with a backpack that weighed as much as them because that's their only thing that's when I think the world realized that the Indian army is the most powerful army in the world because the only thing they used to say is the respect and will be remembered for this for the for Generations together January and August 15th thanks to berosing and and border welcome to an incredibly special episode of agio presents the ranveer show that's right what I do want to begin this episode with is that every single man at least should watch this episode till the end I feel our entire generation of Millennials of gen Z's needs to have mentors in their life


gen Z's needs to have mentors in their life especially when you're entering your 30s especially when you're in the middle of setting up your career in your mid-20s mentors and positive masculinity in your life as an element can really help you in your journey it can lubricate your entire process that's what this episode with Sunil Shetty was all about everyone knows about Sunil Shetty the actor not too many people know that he's got an extremely flourishing business career as well that's what we tried bringing out through this episode what's the Mind behind the success like this one was a lot of masculine lessons so whether you're a man or a woman you will gain value from it but in saying that if you're a guy going through your own mental health issues emotional health issues if you have questions about family life about careers you'll be surprised at how well Sunil Source answered some of these questions so without talking too much more about it what I will say is that TRS is


about it what I will say is that TRS is a sort of exclusive make sure you follow us on Spotify every episode's available on Spotify 48 hours before it's available anywhere else in the world this look of mine if you're on the video version of the show this look has been styled by rgo this is an incredibly Rich episode so watch it till the end so that you can go out in the World and Achieve it in style this one's Sunil Shetty on the runway show [Music] even before we started there were so many do's and don'ts you know and uh I like that uh because uh that's how it's it's got to be your guest could be anybody uh you know you setting the rules your your your area your domain and you being able to control it the way you want to put it out is very very important and otherwise that's why there's no fine line and there's always a mix you know every interview that you see or any podcast that you hear uh is nothing


see or any podcast that you hear uh is nothing exciting to take back home and uh eventually it's not about you and me it's about what the third person wants to take home yeah uh I think in today's day and age media is a constant fight for people's attention because attention spans are reducing so in our world we call it attention real estate trash is being churned out and that's why you don't have an audience the day you have and you mean what you say and and it can make a difference to someone's life or that will change so if you're going to run after trps you're going to run run after what is not good about an individual yeah how far do you believe you're going to last yeah no I think so right now there's two formats of content one is what you said which is extremely short just kind of snatable popcorn content yeah and where on the other end of the spectrum here today and that's where you're working that's where you're working that's what


you're working that's where you're working that's what I'm trying to say you're working because of that you know and good people want to come to you because they want to be heard and uh you know there is something very very honest about what you do thank you sir uh means a lot there's a lot I want to ask you today uh you've been one of my original wishes for the show so it's a great moment for me that you're coming on today uh let's begin with a simple how are you and what's been up lately wow I've been good I've been very very good uh re-looking at myself Reinventing myself getting back to work probably after a gap of nearly eight years uh so excited you know look at it from a point of view of uh a launch for me launch as a senior citizen but you know at the same time making sure that whatever I do now I want to enjoy and make it meaningful okay um you know usually we do a lot of research before


you know usually we do a lot of research before episodes and every time I ask someone about this particular episode they told me to ask you how you're looking sexier as you age like what's the secret I think you know the magic of 60 has that sexy part of it let's change the I into that e focus on uh things that you believe don't compete with anybody have a blast uh let me uh see how you can appeal to the youth see how you can connect with them and the only way you can connect with the youth is if your dog Health you talk Wellness uh you know and I think that is that consistent factor in my life success failure movies no movies that's been the constant and then came the pandemic which taught me even more so to focus on uh one's Health uh and I think that's why people say people look at you differently because every time you go home and look at dad then you start comparing you know but the reason why I do what I do


know but the reason why I do what I do is dress the way I want to do whatever and I want of course age is just a number but also to remind every kid that you know you're seeing Sri Lanka this way go back home and tell Dad if he can be that way even you can because it's so simple yeah uh I'm trying to put this out as a compliment so if it doesn't land as a compliment forgive me but I honestly having me here is okay yeah I know you bring you bring in a people that matter and you know who have some gray matter so I uh and that's why you've been on the wish list for long um I would argue that you're probably looking even better now than you did earlier when diwane that phase was like I feel you're looking much more chill uh you kind of look like a 30 year old with a little salt and pepper going on yeah thank you so what's up like what's happening I think you know the


up like what's happening I think you know the world has changed the world everything is so much everybody Dives so deep into everything whether it's hair whether it's makeup whether it's look there's so much science out there talking about skin wellness gut uh you know the simpler things ayurved is coming back yoga is coming back so I think uh everybody's done the research and my timing has been read I aged at the right time because there's so much more knowledge out there and I follow the simple things in life you know my knowledge uh coming from the Okinawa grocery school of martial arts to to today to to the world of MMA I've seen that all I've seen science I've seen nutrition I've seen health so I think right time uh right place okay what do you do for your Fitness routine and I would also argue your lifestyle routine yeah true true you know my fitness routine is my lifestyle routine like I say 80 diet and probably 10 training and 10 habits early to bed early to


10 training and 10 habits early to bed early to rise uh you know whatever happens I make sure I'm up by for four or five I mean five six in the morning so that night time is a good uh you know 10 10 30 is sleep time even if I'm late it doesn't matter I will catch up during the week but I will not disturb that routine of getting up early so I train early 45 minutes to an hour I uh quantify my food uh I need simple things okay so I think uh basic Mantra like I said uh 80 food diet Clean Diet home cooked food uh I don't order from from outside it's not that I don't enjoy it but I don't know what has gone into it what what and you know what preservatives are there I am I uh count my calories I count my oil I stay away from White whether it's milk whether it's white rice is it salt whether it's sugar and those simple things keep me clean and looking the way I do there's no


me clean and looking the way I do there's no supplements no protein counts nothing like that no no no no you know I did start protein for a bit because I felt uh depleting muscle but then it doesn't suit me and then when something doesn't suit me I go back to the drawing board with my nutritionist it was a very simple simple guy and we we fill in you you know we fill in the blanks and say okay this is missing what do we need to do and I supplement it with uh with natural stuff so far it's worked for me uh I'm going through an injury and I want to check that out and see the reason is it because I stopped consuming as much protein and my supplementation is not enough because you know what the body doesn't at every stage of of Life the body stops consuming or doesn't know how to consume a particular requirement and you have to supplement it okay you know I mean it rejects a certain food yes not rejects a certain food but


certain food yes not rejects a certain food but iron deficiency calcium could be anything each body is different so you know you have to do your blood routine and find out what suits you and not just generally start consuming stuff because the world is saying so and this is the fat you know it could be could be anything it could be coconut oil could be turmeric whatever works Moringa anything but uh so I just need to check that and then uh bring that correction cool what's the best and worst thing about growing older as a guy I think uh the worst thing for an action hero is you slow down uh but uh but the best thing uh from from that point of view is you step back and become smarter you're wiser so you know how to shoot things uh better you know present things better look better on screen you know so you you you manage it with that uh you know how much energy to consume and not get excited and consume too much so that uh you don't fall


and consume too much so that uh you don't fall short life uh when you're younger you're carefree and you do what you want to do and enjoy life make the mistake so you can learn uh and as you age like they say you know you look forward to to I believe every stage is beautiful being a bachelor dating getting rejected Falling In and Out of Love then finding the right person in your life settling down with her and then you feel you know how do I continue that magic and you have a baby and and then that that becomes your priority your life your children they grow up and suddenly 13 14 and they are gone in their own world maybe even faster now because it's a virtual world but uh then you you're back to bonding with each other traveling the best period of you know a husband and wife uh when they have time for themselves then the children come back marriage then grandchildren so I think it's beautiful it's how you look at it and I've enjoyed that


how you look at it and I've enjoyed that Journey tremendously yeah uh I ask you these questions because I'm asking my own questions I'm about to turn 30 in three months and I'm just questioning how my 30s are gonna be how my 40s are going to be and I'm also if you look 21 22. oh thank you sir and hold on to that you know hold on to that don't just take it as a compliment start working on it and trust me if you set your goals you know if you set your goals it's it's possible you manifested you and it's not only manifesting it you you implement uh you know what you believe you want to implement when I was when I turned 50 I said I'm going to be the fittest 50 ever and I was you know uh I did really well for myself then when I hit 60 I said you know salt pepper that gray keep that going and hit hit on your six pack six pack at 60. and I managed it pretty


pack six pack at 60. and I managed it pretty decently you know and through food through food not anything else so stay put there are all these narratives online highlighting men's mental health and how it's not spoken about much so rajas in this room uh he's like he's probably my best friend and he's been my longest uh uh teammate as well as and we've worked together the longest and I was talking about this to him because we've seen each other grow up basically uh and he said that he heard a podcast where someone said that one of the worst things about being a guy is that no one will love you until you can do something for them if you look at it that way then half empty uh because everybody looks for something from from someone in in in in life it is that one even if it's your own children you when you are freeze you're always looking for love from them you know they you want them to uh invest in you all the time but otherwise you're


uh invest in you all the time but otherwise you're doing your own thing so it's it's continuously how you're looking at it uh that's why I also believe that when you're on a high for example you you continue that part of your CSR continuously when I say CSR I don't mean money giving money you know when you give you should always give and forget and when you accept you should always uh rather when you accept uh something never forget but when you give just forget about it you know and that that those things come always come back to you so it's it's about like they say networking networking is not about wanting to build relationships because I want something from you but being able to do something and that works comes back to you whenever probably you need it the most serve without expectation and then absolutely absolutely from what you get you make a living from what you give you can make a life and when you do that it could be time it could be hearing him out when he's when he's


could be hearing him out when he's when he's upset those are the times not necessarily a message but a phone call to say hey how are you doing what's up don't worry you're my who makes a hell of a lot of difference okay I'm gonna be a little raw Hill yeah okay because I feel like somewhere the ice is broken and that's down to your body energy yeah I don't want to call you because you're my dad's age absolutely uh and I know ahan and I know that you and ahan share an incredible relationship that is not the case for a lot of Indian guys yeah um was your relationship with your own dad good very good yeah of course casually I wanted to see when you're growing up you know you believe you have ideas you know more about the world uh but then when you settle down in life everything that says always comes back to you so it's a natural process so I for every kid who believes you will miss uh dad in your life always so I


will miss uh dad in your life always so I think it's it's up to very difficult for dads to change at times you know because they are in their own little world stressed out we don't know what they're going through I think it's up to the boys to also walk up to dad and say you know I want to sit I want to chat don't expect anything from him just pour your heart out to him and it will work it's about making an attempt yeah this is what I'm actually trying to ask you uh because I feel all human beings whether 50 or 60 are still growing up yeah so what does the address generation really want like what's your reality right on life and I'll give you context here I have never been nervous about growing up was not nervous at 18 not 22 or 25 I've had a lot of business challenges in my life taken it head on suddenly I'm a little nervous about my 30s because I don't know if I'm ready to be a dad


don't know if I'm ready to be a dad myself I'm not sure if I'm ready to um run a family as they say and I don't know what to expect from this next phase because I've gone on fifth gear in my 20s so will I still be able to go on at least for the year will I have to cut down the first gear you might have to uh slow down a bit don't need to cut down any gear uh as long as you're clear about the partner that you choose you know the partner really really matters a hell of a lot and the kind of difference that she would make to make to your life she will probably allow you to go on to fifth gear but also you've got to prioritize everything I you know I'll give you my example because my career started when I was probably 29 28 29. uh training training training training and suddenly I got a film and the first thing I decided is you know the world says I said I want to get married you know she


I said I want to get married you know she was with she's been with me for nine years and she said come hell come storm I will stay with you so that was a decision I took and I think that was the most beautiful decision that I took you know they said oh girls will never end up liking you I said it's okay there is a certain audience that will want you you can't please the entire world let me please my loved one more than anybody else first here I think uh Theo was born in the first year itself uh and I was already a father how did it impact me probably did which I didn't know but as far as I'm concerned it didn't Lady Luck came into my life very strongly there was a mother there was a they said you know the mothers they always say Beyond every successful man there's there's a woman for me I'd say there are three that mother who brought me to that stage that wife who held my hand and said you know what do


who held my hand and said you know what do what you want I know it's an insecure world but I'm secure and I feel good about you and then came that child who kept us happy all the differences went out of the window because when we came back it was this little angel at home that uh took away all our time and all our love was for her and for us you know so I think those decisions are very very important that you get married at the right age you settle down at the right age might sound like gun it always does but that's uh that's what it is all about the difference between me and a whole lot of other actors maybe uh is a very very strong family background yeah success failure doesn't matter to me cartoon let me cut it off mentally and that is the difference yeah I think this is not highlighted a lot in culture you know how a really strong marriage and our really strong family life can actually benefit your mental health Therefore your career therefore all other formats of


mental health Therefore your career therefore all other formats of Health also absolute and mental health or anything else works if you respect your partner to each other let her be independent today's time it's about girls going out working achieving they have their own personality why should it come out 20 years later when there is an argument between you or whatever it is I want to do my own thing you want to do your own thing I'm there for you the minute you say that the minute you prioritize your Sundays your family time I haven't worked on a Sunday for donkey's years and this is what Danny saber told me you know Sunday afternoon family your time has to be your time your me time has to be your me time uh I go to the gym I don't carry anything I'm gardening I don't know what what is I'm with the family I forget everything you need to forget that because what is going to happen during the week will happen and that Saturday or a Sunday or a Saturday half day to


Saturday or a Sunday or a Saturday half day to Monday we'll always wait for you nothing is urgent we didn't have phone calls here we didn't have phones when we were working now we're worried about mobiles and who's connecting with me what are they connecting for it's how you look at it and for you someone like you successful it's important that you save right so you feel no yeah I'm saving right I'm investing right so even if I'm on fourth gear or third gear those two gears are the gears for love family happiness for everything else and only you have to decide that nobody else can I think this is sort of become a famous fact now again I'm gonna be very Royal so I'm not going to mince my words no don't I don't want you to um people are aware that you have a very big business career also like outside of films yeah complete that question then I'll tell you yeah I grew up in uh but this is one of your businesses you've had a lot


is one of your businesses you've had a lot of businesses over the years this was the mentality always to get into like the film industry but also then establish all these other things no I got an opportunity thanks to my martial arts background I got a film I went to Dad Dad said One Life to Live give it a shot uh uh huge success about one was but written off as wooden should go back to the European restaurant make those hours make idli uh he thought probably that ITA who wrote then critique thought it was funny but for me that was my livelihood something I'm never embarrassed about I Clan tables because I wanted to because my father did when he was nine years old so who's anybody else to tell me if you're embarrassed about something you are embarrassed about something I'm never embarrassed about anything the clothes I wear I repeat my clothes to the airport but you know so what I'm human yeah I'm I'm traveling because I want to be comfortable not because your


because I want to be comfortable not because your fashion is dictating me I came from an era where we dictated fashion loose was loose tight was tight long hair was long hair you liked it take it otherwise don't you couldn't consume anything else so you know we we came uh from from that generation that believed key we've got to be comfortable with what we uh do and that's exactly how we went about it and that's why I was always at peace uh with myself come back to the question now I've gone business like how did you figure out this big business yeah so I I when I failed there yes when I failed there you know that in me sad and probably I was thinking one day and I said what happened I didn't know that it's a big hit but you know everybody's saying that he does not act so he says baby did you go to school and I realized I've never been to acting school and I jumped into a career [Music] what am I doing I


into a career [Music] what am I doing I don't even know the craft here that art is not something that I grew up with my Hindi was horrible so I went back to the drawing table but when I went back to the drawing table I would not let my self-respect go so I said I need to yes I have dad's business and everything but I need to do things on my own too so I continued my entrepreneurial side you know probably I was in msme small scale guy I was in today's startup and I continued doing that because that gave me that confidence that I am a lot more in life than what that man believes I am you know this is an opportunity that I've got so why not so I think that's why that side kept alive and I always knew that I wanted to retire or get out of the business being known from the background I came from humble simple family work meant worship for me I came from the hospitality business you know for me the customer was